Meeting Title: Weekly Design Meeting Date: 2025-01-07 Meeting participants: Anne, Uttam Kumaran, Ryan Brosas, Connor Fenn
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1 00:01:30.460 ⇒ 00:01:31.979 Connor Fenn: Hey, Ryan? Good morning.
2 00:04:11.030 ⇒ 00:04:12.799 Connor Fenn: Brian. Where is everybody?
3 00:04:15.000 ⇒ 00:04:16.379 Ryan Brosas: I’m not sure.
4 00:04:17.589 ⇒ 00:04:22.029 Ryan Brosas: I’m I will message a thumb.
5 00:04:23.210 ⇒ 00:04:29.039 Connor Fenn: Is it? Is this chat just the website, social and design chat.
6 00:04:30.050 ⇒ 00:04:33.920 Ryan Brosas: Yeah, this is web website. It’s social design.
7 00:04:33.920 ⇒ 00:04:34.480 Connor Fenn: Yeah.
8 00:04:45.700 ⇒ 00:04:47.570 Connor Fenn: I’ll put it in there right now.
9 00:05:24.780 ⇒ 00:05:27.619 Ryan Brosas: Oh, it’s Thomas cobbing.
10 00:05:47.720 ⇒ 00:05:49.970 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, guys? Sorry for the delay.
11 00:05:50.510 ⇒ 00:05:53.110 Ryan Brosas: No good morning.
12 00:05:53.110 ⇒ 00:05:56.640 Uttam Kumaran: Hey? Good morning, Ryan is Halima, and joining.
13 00:05:57.930 ⇒ 00:05:59.850 Ryan Brosas: I’m not really sure.
14 00:06:00.450 ⇒ 00:06:09.609 Ryan Brosas: I haven’t contacted them, I think. Ann is online. I’m not sure if she’s going to join, let me check.
15 00:06:09.780 ⇒ 00:06:12.240 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Can you ping both of them in the design channel?
16 00:06:48.060 ⇒ 00:06:50.959 Connor Fenn: You still thinking about making it over here today.
17 00:06:52.330 ⇒ 00:06:54.829 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’ll be there like, around 11 or so.
18 00:06:55.130 ⇒ 00:06:55.810 Connor Fenn: Okay.
19 00:07:22.570 ⇒ 00:07:24.080 Uttam Kumaran: Is is Halim online.
20 00:07:26.820 ⇒ 00:07:31.139 Ryan Brosas: Yeah. He just got online right now.
21 00:07:32.348 ⇒ 00:07:36.929 Ryan Brosas: I already tag them just waiting for their response.
22 00:07:37.150 ⇒ 00:07:40.099 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Alright. We can probably go into
23 00:07:40.570 ⇒ 00:07:46.822 Uttam Kumaran: content plan for this week. Then, first, st I mainly want to talk about 2 things. First, st I want to talk about
24 00:07:47.460 ⇒ 00:07:56.459 Uttam Kumaran: like the regular company posts. Second, I want to talk about like how we want to structure like deep dive and like more
25 00:07:56.780 ⇒ 00:08:01.469 Uttam Kumaran: post and then I want to talk about like
26 00:08:01.680 ⇒ 00:08:06.030 Uttam Kumaran: planning out personal posts from my account to start with.
27 00:08:06.390 ⇒ 00:08:10.199 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe we can touch on those 3 items, and then I want to see if Aleem and
28 00:08:10.550 ⇒ 00:08:13.869 Uttam Kumaran: and come on, and we can talk about some more design stuff.
29 00:08:28.410 ⇒ 00:08:29.698 Uttam Kumaran: Ryan, you’re on mute.
30 00:08:30.640 ⇒ 00:08:59.980 Ryan Brosas: Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. The content for this week is yeah. It’s already ready. But the only thing that I’m missing out is the deep dive. Which is the relevance? I’m already asked, like the the AI team, if they have, like some sort of documentation, like like Ryan. Doc, already did with with his with his. What they call this
31 00:09:00.770 ⇒ 00:09:07.880 Ryan Brosas: synthetic data data, which is, I already like link in link it to to a reaction post.
32 00:09:08.710 ⇒ 00:09:09.150 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, just.
33 00:09:09.150 ⇒ 00:09:09.680 Ryan Brosas: Deep dive.
34 00:09:09.680 ⇒ 00:09:12.310 Uttam Kumaran: The deep dive. I want to do a little bit
35 00:09:12.730 ⇒ 00:09:15.419 Uttam Kumaran: like I don’t want it to be AI,
36 00:09:15.590 ⇒ 00:09:36.760 Uttam Kumaran: like, maybe like 10%, we can write with AI. But I actually want it to be written from like a pretty technical standpoint. So the one thing I want to work on is like what the structure for that document is gonna be. So 1st thing is, I can send you several sort of like inspiration articles
37 00:09:36.990 ⇒ 00:09:43.629 Uttam Kumaran: that I think do a really really great job with this this article is not really meant to be like
38 00:09:43.790 ⇒ 00:09:51.569 Uttam Kumaran: great, for, like every audience like our other posts are, it’s supposed to show, like our technical depth and.
39 00:09:51.570 ⇒ 00:09:52.100 Ryan Brosas: Hmm.
40 00:09:52.100 ⇒ 00:09:56.440 Uttam Kumaran: Really demonstrate, like what we think about the tool like. I don’t want to make it
41 00:09:56.560 ⇒ 00:10:04.299 Uttam Kumaran: like kind of like, how the other articles sound where it’s like really high level. I want it to be super technical and pretty deep in order.
42 00:10:04.300 ⇒ 00:10:04.650 Ryan Brosas: Listen.
43 00:10:04.650 ⇒ 00:10:06.680 Uttam Kumaran: Do that. We’re gonna need to.
44 00:10:07.421 ⇒ 00:10:12.070 Uttam Kumaran: You know, get writing from the actual engineers.
45 00:10:12.210 ⇒ 00:10:16.780 Uttam Kumaran: So I want to think about a good process for us to structure those documents.
46 00:10:18.550 ⇒ 00:10:23.760 Uttam Kumaran: What do you think is the best way like, can I send you like 10 or 15 articles.
47 00:10:24.100 ⇒ 00:10:32.440 Uttam Kumaran: and then maybe you can come up with like us, like a like a structure, basically that we can
48 00:10:32.710 ⇒ 00:10:36.167 Uttam Kumaran: basically stress test with one of the engineers.
49 00:10:37.260 ⇒ 00:10:56.433 Uttam Kumaran: like. And again. I don’t want it to be AI written. I want like I’m happy for it to be like proofread at the end by AI like for grammar, and then for some like readability. But I would rather this be like mostly written by the engineer, and really be targeted towards like a technical audience.
50 00:10:57.040 ⇒ 00:10:58.249 Uttam Kumaran: like, what do you think?
51 00:10:59.170 ⇒ 00:11:18.329 Ryan Brosas: Yeah, I think that’s pretty much okay, that’s what I’m currently doing on the synthetic date, the synthetic how we like how we made like, say, synthetic data, which is, I already have the resources I’m just going to like, make some edits.
52 00:11:19.190 ⇒ 00:11:26.220 Uttam Kumaran: Did. Did Ryan? Did Ryan? Did he write that? Or what was your process for that article?
53 00:11:26.660 ⇒ 00:11:38.549 Ryan Brosas: He did some he already, like provided the code on the documentation, and he provided the step by step well, the whole chat
54 00:11:38.930 ⇒ 00:11:41.069 Ryan Brosas: the chat interaction with Claude.
55 00:11:41.752 ⇒ 00:11:44.919 Ryan Brosas: So that’s really what I’m basing with.
56 00:11:45.540 ⇒ 00:12:05.740 Ryan Brosas: So that’s what I’m currently writing right now for that piece. Yeah, I think that’s really the thing that I need is more like the the the process, or as a step by step, that’s why I why, I’m asking for like, you know, a zoom well, a loom video.
57 00:12:06.210 ⇒ 00:12:08.589 Ryan Brosas: yes, something like a screenshot.
58 00:12:09.282 ⇒ 00:12:15.240 Ryan Brosas: That that could, you know provide me some insight, or you know, like
59 00:12:15.420 ⇒ 00:12:18.139 Ryan Brosas: knowledge for the whole process.
60 00:12:19.274 ⇒ 00:12:34.589 Ryan Brosas: If it’s not, I said, Okay, I can get, you know, I’ll research some Youtube video. But that’s really not the the case with it. Because I don’t. Really, we do have our own process, which is really unique.
61 00:12:35.183 ⇒ 00:12:42.480 Ryan Brosas: That’s why I’m asking for like a loom, or, you know, a a screenshot, or, you know, documentation
62 00:12:42.860 ⇒ 00:12:45.779 Ryan Brosas: for the relevance, or in a in.
63 00:12:45.780 ⇒ 00:12:54.169 Uttam Kumaran: But that’s but that I guess that’s what I’m saying is like, what are you gonna do after that you’re gonna use AI to write the article. It’s not gonna have the depth that we need.
64 00:12:54.955 ⇒ 00:13:00.650 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s what I’m saying is like, I don’t want it to be like copy paste documentation.
65 00:13:00.650 ⇒ 00:13:01.040 Ryan Brosas: Sure.
66 00:13:01.040 ⇒ 00:13:13.099 Uttam Kumaran: Screenshots into AI and have it. Write it. It’s not like I’m telling you. When I read it, I’m gonna be like this is this isn’t gonna work. Because and that’s why I want to start 1st from thinking about their structure.
67 00:13:13.330 ⇒ 00:13:19.439 Uttam Kumaran: So I’ll send you like, 10 or 15 of really great like technical write ups.
68 00:13:19.910 ⇒ 00:13:23.909 Uttam Kumaran: I want you to just 1st think about like what the structure is
69 00:13:24.280 ⇒ 00:13:28.439 Uttam Kumaran: like. How do those guys structure the actual like blog post
70 00:13:28.969 ⇒ 00:13:41.109 Uttam Kumaran: and then let’s start there. I want the engineers to write most of it. Either they can do 2 things they can like narrate, or they can like hop on a call and record like talking through it.
71 00:13:41.190 ⇒ 00:14:01.199 Uttam Kumaran: or they can write it. But I want it to be primarily from our engineering voice. Right don’t want. The AI is not going to do a good job at filling in the gaps. Also, it’s like personal to our sort of engineering workflows. So the AI is not going to be able to write like how we used it and everything like it’s going to be really heavily based on
72 00:14:01.440 ⇒ 00:14:10.900 Uttam Kumaran: our experience. So can we start? Can we start that? Maybe you can make a ticket and content for that, just like finalizing the
73 00:14:11.910 ⇒ 00:14:13.950 Uttam Kumaran: the deep dive.
74 00:14:14.900 ⇒ 00:14:21.799 Uttam Kumaran: sort of blog post format. And then maybe we can talk about that either later today or tomorrow.
75 00:14:22.560 ⇒ 00:14:28.440 Ryan Brosas: Sure. Sure. So I’ll just make like a a ticket here on the Content.
76 00:14:29.116 ⇒ 00:14:33.179 Ryan Brosas: I think I’ll be putting it on the content resources.
77 00:14:34.400 ⇒ 00:14:35.060 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
78 00:14:51.940 ⇒ 00:14:56.130 Uttam Kumaran: okay, great. Let me know when you’re ready. And then we maybe we talk about one more item.
79 00:15:27.210 ⇒ 00:15:28.040 Anne: Hello!
80 00:15:28.440 ⇒ 00:15:29.340 Uttam Kumaran: Tan.
81 00:15:30.610 ⇒ 00:15:32.668 Anne: Alright guys. Sorry I’m late.
82 00:15:34.610 ⇒ 00:15:40.329 Anne: yup, so should I like? Say, my updates.
83 00:15:40.470 ⇒ 00:15:44.200 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess one more thing on the content side.
84 00:15:45.300 ⇒ 00:15:52.560 Uttam Kumaran: Ryan, I wanna plan out how we’re actually doing posts? Like, from my personal account.
85 00:15:52.760 ⇒ 00:15:55.829 Uttam Kumaran: So can we start creating a couple of
86 00:15:56.430 ⇒ 00:16:05.424 Uttam Kumaran: tickets. There, and I know we did an overview right of like my post. I think I want to plan a couple of types.
87 00:16:08.570 ⇒ 00:16:17.719 Uttam Kumaran: so I don’t know like, what do you think is the best way, like, I want to kind of almost handle it. Similarly to how we’re planning out the the other post. Except in this world, like, I’m gonna
88 00:16:18.040 ⇒ 00:16:22.610 Uttam Kumaran: it’s good. There’s a it’s mainly your job is just to do the scheduling. And then, just like.
89 00:16:23.050 ⇒ 00:16:26.990 Uttam Kumaran: maybe like a proofread. But I don’t want it to be written by AI.
90 00:16:27.959 ⇒ 00:16:30.899 Uttam Kumaran: I want to do all the writing.
91 00:16:31.320 ⇒ 00:16:31.930 Ryan Brosas: Yeah.
92 00:16:31.930 ⇒ 00:16:33.679 Uttam Kumaran: But think of this as like
93 00:16:33.850 ⇒ 00:16:37.989 Uttam Kumaran: it’s the same post that I did in the past, except I just want to try to aim for like
94 00:16:39.020 ⇒ 00:16:42.119 Uttam Kumaran: at at least to start. We aim for 2 a week.
95 00:16:43.340 ⇒ 00:16:49.059 Uttam Kumaran: and most of it is gonna be hinging on like my confidence, and like what we end up writing about.
96 00:16:49.170 ⇒ 00:16:52.200 Uttam Kumaran: But I want to do that. I want to do at least one
97 00:16:55.380 ⇒ 00:16:58.330 Uttam Kumaran: like a repost of our content.
98 00:16:58.480 ⇒ 00:17:05.810 Uttam Kumaran: And then maybe one like organic post like where there’s there’s nothing there’s no like link.
99 00:17:09.950 ⇒ 00:17:33.790 Ryan Brosas: Okay? So the 2 post that we’re going to make for well, reschedule for your link in which is more on like repost and organic posts. So I think for the repost. It’s more like the a blog content that you are interested with, you know, in our in our company. And for organic. It’s more of like, you know a
100 00:17:33.870 ⇒ 00:17:45.933 Ryan Brosas: what you know in your daily stuff or in the company. You know more on the leadership stuff. You can, or you can post that. Or you know more of, like
101 00:17:46.800 ⇒ 00:17:52.549 Ryan Brosas: personal, like personal developments or something. And that’s the stuff that I, you know.
102 00:17:53.870 ⇒ 00:18:01.410 Ryan Brosas: I’m thinking, with the organic or more of like, you know your opinion on the
103 00:18:01.943 ⇒ 00:18:08.119 Ryan Brosas: on the you know AI stuff or the data stuff that you know it’s happening right now on.
104 00:18:10.440 ⇒ 00:18:16.269 Uttam Kumaran: So can we just create those content like, can we create those as part of the content schedule.
105 00:18:16.840 ⇒ 00:18:17.350 Ryan Brosas: We can. Yeah.
106 00:18:17.350 ⇒ 00:18:18.799 Uttam Kumaran: To do them this week.
107 00:18:22.630 ⇒ 00:18:25.049 Uttam Kumaran: So are you gonna make like a new content type.
108 00:18:27.375 ⇒ 00:18:36.630 Ryan Brosas: Yeah, I’ll be creating one. And you know, I’m just documenting it with on the personal linking. So I can make it later.
109 00:18:38.380 ⇒ 00:18:39.839 Uttam Kumaran: And then, are you gonna
110 00:18:40.020 ⇒ 00:18:44.729 Uttam Kumaran: are you gonna post that? I guess you can log in and post. So you don’t need to use buffer necessarily. But
111 00:18:49.270 ⇒ 00:18:50.070 Uttam Kumaran: okay.
112 00:18:51.180 ⇒ 00:18:56.430 Uttam Kumaran: cool. So why don’t maybe just follow up with me later today, once you have those items and I can review.
113 00:18:57.780 ⇒ 00:19:01.459 Ryan Brosas: Yes, we’ll do. I’ll be forwarding it to you later.
114 00:19:01.640 ⇒ 00:19:07.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, okay, cool. And yeah, we can move on to design stuff.
115 00:19:12.570 ⇒ 00:19:20.189 Anne: Yeah, so from my side, I already saw the comments in the event data modeling.
116 00:19:20.600 ⇒ 00:19:24.950 Anne: So I’m just going to update some of the text.
117 00:19:27.038 ⇒ 00:19:32.335 Anne: and then and also the icons, and of course, some
118 00:19:33.530 ⇒ 00:19:44.150 Anne: blog posts and carousel. It’s already done, except for the post for the January 14th blog posts. Yeah.
119 00:19:45.200 ⇒ 00:19:51.819 Anne: And then, are we still meeting later for the okay? Okay?
120 00:19:52.130 ⇒ 00:19:53.790 Uttam Kumaran: Does that? Does that still work.
121 00:19:55.178 ⇒ 00:20:00.760 Anne: Yep, yep, maybe I’ll just take enough 1st later before our meeting. Yeah.
122 00:20:00.960 ⇒ 00:20:04.939 Anne: Since it’s around 2 am. Here. Yeah.
123 00:20:05.200 ⇒ 00:20:10.189 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, thank you. I know I just wanted to. We’ve been. We’ve been spending a lot of time like
124 00:20:10.300 ⇒ 00:20:11.980 Uttam Kumaran: back and forth on
125 00:20:12.620 ⇒ 00:20:19.120 Uttam Kumaran: the the deck. And I just like, I just think we need to meet to sort of finalize.
126 00:20:19.610 ⇒ 00:20:19.970 Anne: Okay.
127 00:20:19.970 ⇒ 00:20:20.810 Uttam Kumaran: Things.
128 00:20:20.940 ⇒ 00:20:25.340 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah. And I’ve been, basically.
129 00:20:26.070 ⇒ 00:20:33.080 Uttam Kumaran: I’ve been in meetings most mornings. So it’s been it’s been hard to get time. So if that works for you, I really appreciate it.
130 00:20:33.910 ⇒ 00:20:41.560 Anne: Yep, yep, I’m sorry. I’m not. Really that active late, because, you know I’ve been running
131 00:20:41.900 ⇒ 00:20:45.189 Anne: back and forth from my house and the hospital, so.
132 00:20:45.190 ⇒ 00:20:49.799 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, that’s totally fine. Yeah. If that time works, I just wanna make sure you have enough
133 00:20:50.150 ⇒ 00:20:57.280 Uttam Kumaran: stuff like, I feel like I’m the blocker and I haven’t been able to like sort of get my thoughts on like out on what
134 00:20:57.560 ⇒ 00:21:01.989 Uttam Kumaran: we needed for the deck, and sort of do a little bit of a walkthrough with you, so
135 00:21:02.290 ⇒ 00:21:06.290 Uttam Kumaran: I think that time should be enough for us.
136 00:21:07.380 ⇒ 00:21:10.250 Anne: Yep, yep, so I’ll just
137 00:21:10.400 ⇒ 00:21:16.130 Anne: later update some of the text that I have, and then I’ll ask later
138 00:21:17.310 ⇒ 00:21:20.779 Anne: about the deck because I haven’t seen the full
139 00:21:21.540 ⇒ 00:21:26.670 Anne: like, because I’ve just reading an email. So yep.
140 00:21:27.070 ⇒ 00:21:28.270 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay.
141 00:21:28.640 ⇒ 00:21:31.389 Anne: I’ll just meet later.
142 00:21:32.040 ⇒ 00:21:32.530 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
143 00:21:33.640 ⇒ 00:21:35.769 Anne: Think that’s all for me.
144 00:21:36.150 ⇒ 00:21:37.339 Anne: Thank you.
145 00:21:37.510 ⇒ 00:21:52.086 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, and then a couple of other items on the design side. So one I have to talk to Halim about he’s gonna be adding the newsletter to the blog as a separate tab. So I’m looking forward to that. I also want to create
146 00:21:53.140 ⇒ 00:22:03.219 Uttam Kumaran: single newsletter sign up page where people can go and
147 00:22:03.610 ⇒ 00:22:05.949 Uttam Kumaran: sign up for the newsletter almost like
148 00:22:06.180 ⇒ 00:22:10.110 Uttam Kumaran: similar to the magic link for behive
149 00:22:10.733 ⇒ 00:22:16.473 Uttam Kumaran: so I’m gonna work. I’m gonna work with him on that
150 00:22:18.550 ⇒ 00:22:20.169 Uttam Kumaran: Otherwise, I think
151 00:22:22.040 ⇒ 00:22:27.290 Uttam Kumaran: there’s just a couple of items we’re I mean, we’re still, I think, gonna try to plan out
152 00:22:27.440 ⇒ 00:22:31.750 Uttam Kumaran: later this month. The biggest priority right now is all the sales materials.
153 00:22:31.870 ⇒ 00:22:38.120 Uttam Kumaran: especially for me, Robert and Connor on the sales side. So we kind of moved a little bit of our stuff back.
154 00:22:39.043 ⇒ 00:22:39.816 Uttam Kumaran: However,
155 00:22:41.671 ⇒ 00:23:05.428 Uttam Kumaran: Miguel is actively working on the demo, like, basically adding Demos to like a site that we’re gonna we could end up redesigning and putting up on our site. So I’m excited. For that soon. That’ll hit a couple of items, and then I definitely want to talk a little bit about
156 00:23:05.990 ⇒ 00:23:07.410 Uttam Kumaran: how we get a few.
157 00:23:07.880 ⇒ 00:23:16.019 Uttam Kumaran: Once we’re getting. Once we get through all the sales, materials and decks, we’ll then go back and we can do the we can do a bit of work on the homepage
158 00:23:18.270 ⇒ 00:23:22.438 Uttam Kumaran: So excited for that. I think. Lastly,
159 00:23:24.110 ⇒ 00:23:25.090 Uttam Kumaran: I know.
160 00:23:25.820 ⇒ 00:23:32.659 Uttam Kumaran: Ryan. We talked a little bit about the keyword research that you did. But maybe we can just wait until the next
161 00:23:32.940 ⇒ 00:23:37.570 Uttam Kumaran: SEO meeting to chat about like how that’s going.
162 00:23:37.967 ⇒ 00:23:43.320 Uttam Kumaran: And then I think, sometime this week before Friday, I want to look at metrics with you across the board
163 00:23:43.500 ⇒ 00:23:45.950 Uttam Kumaran: that way. We can present that on Friday.
164 00:23:46.713 ⇒ 00:23:50.760 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s let’s plan that out.
165 00:23:52.020 ⇒ 00:24:02.839 Ryan Brosas: Yeah. So I’m planning to like increase the volume for the blog post, because, you know, if the the keywords for q. 1
166 00:24:03.264 ⇒ 00:24:23.720 Ryan Brosas: it. We already have those, and it quite. You know, it’s quite large keywords, and I think if we can wrap up to like, you know, for the next week we can wrap up to 5. Then we can in the next. In the next next week we can, you know, wrap up the blog post to 7 7 blog post a week.
167 00:24:24.275 ⇒ 00:24:28.330 Ryan Brosas: Because, you know, we we needed to maximize the the
168 00:24:28.510 ⇒ 00:24:41.840 Ryan Brosas: the you know the our daily, or you know, like increasing our volume on the content side as we are targeting like a a thousand of you know, subscriber on the end of the q. 1.
169 00:24:42.330 ⇒ 00:24:46.989 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it looks like we got a we got a couple of people that are coming in through the
170 00:24:48.777 ⇒ 00:24:50.600 Uttam Kumaran: sign up. So.
171 00:24:51.180 ⇒ 00:24:55.470 Uttam Kumaran: We got a couple. But yeah, I want to talk about how we hit that goal. So.
172 00:25:00.430 ⇒ 00:25:03.050 Uttam Kumaran: okay, great anything else.
173 00:25:07.840 ⇒ 00:25:08.700 Uttam Kumaran: Alright.
174 00:25:09.164 ⇒ 00:25:11.805 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess, Brian, I look forward to hearing about
175 00:25:12.280 ⇒ 00:25:17.580 Uttam Kumaran: the deep dive format and then the personal post. And then yeah, and look forward to chatting. Later.
176 00:25:18.420 ⇒ 00:25:19.080 Ryan Brosas: Sure. Sure.
177 00:25:19.080 ⇒ 00:25:21.079 Ryan Brosas: Yeah, thank you so much.
178 00:25:22.070 ⇒ 00:25:22.780 Uttam Kumaran: Bye.