Meeting Title: Uttam Kumaran’s Personal Meeting Room Date: 2024-12-27 Meeting participants: Mariane Cequina, Nicolas Sucari, Uttam Kumaran, Casie Aviles, Ryan Brosas
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1 00:00:17.940 ⇒ 00:00:18.990 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, guys?
2 00:00:20.110 ⇒ 00:00:22.560 Uttam Kumaran: But I didn’t know who was gonna join today.
3 00:00:23.820 ⇒ 00:00:24.860 Nicolas Sucari: Hey, guys.
4 00:00:28.000 ⇒ 00:00:28.810 Ryan Brosas: Hey!
5 00:00:29.120 ⇒ 00:00:31.190 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, everyone! How’s the week?
6 00:00:34.630 ⇒ 00:00:38.869 Nicolas Sucari: Good rain for the past 3 days. For me here in Uruguay.
7 00:00:41.450 ⇒ 00:00:44.570 Nicolas Sucari: I wasn’t able to enjoy any any beach.
8 00:00:56.360 ⇒ 00:00:59.399 Uttam Kumaran: How about you guys, Marianne or Casey? How is the week.
9 00:01:02.820 ⇒ 00:01:12.249 Mariane Cequina: Hello, just celebrated my family last Christmas. And yeah, I’m doing well. I hope you guys are also enjoyed the Christmas holiday.
10 00:01:13.090 ⇒ 00:01:14.000 Uttam Kumaran: Nice.
11 00:01:15.280 ⇒ 00:01:18.080 Casie Aviles: Yeah, pretty much the same. Just
12 00:01:18.450 ⇒ 00:01:21.410 Casie Aviles: it was not that eventful. But
13 00:01:21.630 ⇒ 00:01:23.959 Casie Aviles: since we’re a small family. But yeah.
14 00:01:24.920 ⇒ 00:01:34.180 Uttam Kumaran: Nice cool? Well, yeah, I don’t. I think. Probably short meeting today. Just planning
15 00:01:35.900 ⇒ 00:01:40.565 Uttam Kumaran: you know, just planning stuff for next week and next month.
16 00:01:41.580 ⇒ 00:01:52.759 Uttam Kumaran: so I’ll probably just catch up with folks on slack. I think, Marian, I’ve been messaging with you back and forth. We have 2 people that will be starting the next 2 weeks, Connor and Sahana.
17 00:01:52.890 ⇒ 00:01:57.999 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna have them walk through the onboarding, doc and then give feedback.
18 00:01:58.464 ⇒ 00:02:07.215 Uttam Kumaran: I know I I have to add a couple of more things. We also we talked about the in the in the template to have the the
19 00:02:07.930 ⇒ 00:02:13.449 Uttam Kumaran: what’s it called the meeting schedule as well. It’s sort of different for every team.
20 00:02:13.640 ⇒ 00:02:16.030 Uttam Kumaran: So I wonder whether we should.
21 00:02:16.920 ⇒ 00:02:21.200 Uttam Kumaran: We should basically have one place where they go, or basically, we should say, check the
22 00:02:21.310 ⇒ 00:02:26.090 Uttam Kumaran: team page, check your team, page for the meeting schedule.
23 00:02:27.080 ⇒ 00:02:33.100 Mariane Cequina: Or maybe we can. We could put all the schedule in one page. What do you think about it? And then we can just like.
24 00:02:33.430 ⇒ 00:02:36.080 Mariane Cequina: Give them the link on that notion. Page.
25 00:02:36.650 ⇒ 00:02:41.809 Uttam Kumaran: I think if we have, if per AI data, content sales and design, we just have
26 00:02:41.960 ⇒ 00:02:47.329 Uttam Kumaran: the have, like a meeting schedule underneath navigation.
27 00:02:48.450 ⇒ 00:02:49.820 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s fine.
28 00:02:50.170 ⇒ 00:02:50.830 Mariane Cequina: Okay.
29 00:02:51.160 ⇒ 00:02:56.080 Uttam Kumaran: Cause. That’s something that everybody will want. And we’re gonna change. I don’t think putting it into separate
30 00:02:56.550 ⇒ 00:03:00.719 Uttam Kumaran: meeting area is necessary right now.
31 00:03:01.560 ⇒ 00:03:04.670 Mariane Cequina: So for AI. I put it there right at the top.
32 00:03:05.110 ⇒ 00:03:07.139 Uttam Kumaran: But it’s probably not the best place.
33 00:03:08.040 ⇒ 00:03:10.910 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, okay. I’m sorry. I just.
34 00:03:11.400 ⇒ 00:03:12.120 Uttam Kumaran: Good evening, everybody!
35 00:03:12.120 ⇒ 00:03:13.070 Mariane Cequina: I’m looking right now.
36 00:03:13.340 ⇒ 00:03:15.090 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
37 00:03:15.090 ⇒ 00:03:21.349 Mariane Cequina: Gonna put everything like from the aid, the all the schedule of the meetings for the whole week.
38 00:03:21.580 ⇒ 00:03:32.469 Uttam Kumaran: Because I’m gonna have. I’m gonna create the schedule for the data team. And for I’m gonna add the schedule for sales data AI and content.
39 00:03:33.346 ⇒ 00:03:40.479 Uttam Kumaran: And then Nico is gonna add stuff for some for some of the data stuff as well. So
40 00:03:40.590 ⇒ 00:03:46.630 Uttam Kumaran: let’s just yeah. Let’s just see where, if we can, maybe we move this under navigation, I guess
41 00:03:49.220 ⇒ 00:03:54.550 Uttam Kumaran: or we we put this in its in A, we put this in.
42 00:03:54.550 ⇒ 00:03:54.890 Mariane Cequina: Should be.
43 00:03:54.890 ⇒ 00:03:55.760 Uttam Kumaran: Place.
44 00:03:56.190 ⇒ 00:03:59.820 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, I think it should be in the navigation under resources.
45 00:03:59.820 ⇒ 00:04:03.389 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let’s do that. Yeah.
46 00:04:03.390 ⇒ 00:04:28.939 Mariane Cequina: Okay, I I just wanna since you’re talking about the meeting schedule. Should I make like a cause? We talked about this last time that I need to create as well the meeting notes. So I was thinking, if the meeting notes for the team, if we will be having like a 1 database for all the meetings. Like informations, like the summary, etc, in one place, and then we’re gonna sort it out according to the department.
47 00:04:29.230 ⇒ 00:04:30.385 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think,
48 00:04:31.680 ⇒ 00:04:40.080 Uttam Kumaran: I think let’s see, I’m not sure. Cause I I wanna I’m working with the AI team to basically figure out how we can automatically get the notes.
49 00:04:40.280 ⇒ 00:04:42.109 Mariane Cequina: Into the right meeting.
50 00:04:43.900 ⇒ 00:04:49.789 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe let’s wait on that one until I kind of figure out how I want the flow to be.
51 00:04:51.095 ⇒ 00:04:54.470 Mariane Cequina: Okay, okay, so for now, I’m just gonna do the meeting schedule.
52 00:04:54.720 ⇒ 00:04:55.440 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
53 00:05:18.050 ⇒ 00:05:27.640 Uttam Kumaran: okay, cool and then, yeah, we’re finalizing. We’re finalizing the services database hopefully next week.
54 00:05:27.990 ⇒ 00:05:33.890 Uttam Kumaran: And then I think the next thing I’m gonna need help with is moving all the sales assets
55 00:05:34.030 ⇒ 00:05:35.690 Uttam Kumaran: the documentation.
56 00:05:38.270 ⇒ 00:05:46.280 Uttam Kumaran: Basically just making sure that every sales asset like has a record and documentation as well
57 00:05:46.680 ⇒ 00:05:54.840 Uttam Kumaran: the sows and things like that. So I will add I can add requirements to the that ticket that’s in operations.
58 00:05:56.030 ⇒ 00:06:01.220 Nicolas Sucari: Well done when you’re talking about sales sales asset. It’s what we have in the Figma file, right.
59 00:06:01.220 ⇒ 00:06:06.720 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly. Yeah, I just. But I wanna because searching and figma is a nightmare.
60 00:06:06.720 ⇒ 00:06:07.309 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, yeah.
61 00:06:07.310 ⇒ 00:06:10.209 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, yeah, start from notion, basically.
62 00:06:10.210 ⇒ 00:06:24.460 Nicolas Sucari: But maybe we can create a meeting with Marianne and Ann and see how we can like combine those 2 things so that we can have like a clear way in order to find anything we want, because I think we need to organize a little bit. The figma, too, in order to.
63 00:06:24.460 ⇒ 00:06:28.389 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, there is a. There also is a ticket on the organization.
64 00:06:28.760 ⇒ 00:06:29.890 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
65 00:06:30.460 ⇒ 00:06:34.660 Nicolas Sucari: I can. I can try to work on it with with Anne. If you want.
66 00:06:35.660 ⇒ 00:06:38.729 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, let me write down kind of like what I’m hoping for.
67 00:06:39.090 ⇒ 00:06:39.480 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
68 00:06:39.480 ⇒ 00:06:43.560 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like, I wanna create something for all the documents.
69 00:06:44.210 ⇒ 00:06:45.860 Uttam Kumaran: And then also,
70 00:06:48.140 ⇒ 00:06:56.000 Uttam Kumaran: we’re, we also have a Google drives with some stuff like, where do we store all the files associated with clients so that should be somewhere?
71 00:06:56.588 ⇒ 00:07:11.660 Uttam Kumaran: And then I also I want to start work. I’m starting to accumulate all the different sort of sales meetings that we have with like external clients, because we use it for like basically figuring out like, what’s working with clients.
72 00:07:12.140 ⇒ 00:07:14.969 Uttam Kumaran: So I wanna put all that into Google drive as well.
73 00:07:15.527 ⇒ 00:07:19.899 Uttam Kumaran: And then basically have links to that in notion, too. So
74 00:07:20.090 ⇒ 00:07:22.700 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll just kind of write down some of those requirements.
75 00:07:24.120 ⇒ 00:07:25.699 Nicolas Sucari: Cool, perfect.
76 00:07:43.820 ⇒ 00:07:44.430 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
77 00:07:49.660 ⇒ 00:07:50.860 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s see.
78 00:07:53.940 ⇒ 00:08:05.119 Uttam Kumaran: Casey, I saw you also put some comments on the lead researcher. I guess that maybe I could. We could. I just get it. I know you’re probably just back today, but any update on anything on the side.
79 00:08:06.810 ⇒ 00:08:10.810 Casie Aviles: Yeah, sure. Basically, I’ve been working
80 00:08:11.400 ⇒ 00:08:17.109 Casie Aviles: lately on the Eval side. So I’ve tried like 2 more
81 00:08:17.600 ⇒ 00:08:21.489 Casie Aviles: platforms with brain trust and long views.
82 00:08:21.850 ⇒ 00:08:25.600 Casie Aviles: I could quickly share what I what I have so far. But I think.
83 00:08:26.840 ⇒ 00:08:29.249 Casie Aviles: yeah, I could just quickly share my screen.
84 00:08:29.250 ⇒ 00:08:29.890 Uttam Kumaran: Sure.
85 00:08:32.080 ⇒ 00:08:33.330 Casie Aviles: Yeah. So
86 00:08:34.240 ⇒ 00:08:41.074 Casie Aviles: with this one, I think this is, so far the best out of the tools that we’ve been testing out.
87 00:08:42.020 ⇒ 00:08:43.850 Casie Aviles: personally booked because
88 00:08:44.039 ⇒ 00:08:49.059 Casie Aviles: I’ve sent like I’ve set up like a quick back end for now of the lead agent
89 00:08:50.165 ⇒ 00:08:53.493 Casie Aviles: but it’s not equipped with tools yet, so it’s just more for the
90 00:08:54.926 ⇒ 00:08:56.913 Casie Aviles: chat generation, like, yeah,
91 00:08:57.740 ⇒ 00:09:00.940 Casie Aviles: so I was able to send some traces, and
92 00:09:01.520 ⇒ 00:09:08.000 Casie Aviles: we were, we have like the cost here. And then, additionally, we also have, like an Evals here over here.
93 00:09:08.250 ⇒ 00:09:08.600 Uttam Kumaran: Nice.
94 00:09:08.600 ⇒ 00:09:14.320 Casie Aviles: So, yeah, so for the test for testing purposes, I just did a helpfulness, Eval.
95 00:09:15.100 ⇒ 00:09:23.630 Casie Aviles: and it would output either a 0 or one. And then it also writes a comment. So it’s like, it’s an Llm as a judge.
96 00:09:24.210 ⇒ 00:09:25.750 Casie Aviles: Second, yeah.
97 00:09:25.980 ⇒ 00:09:30.000 Casie Aviles: So whenever a trace comes through, it’s automatically.
98 00:09:31.080 ⇒ 00:09:35.049 Casie Aviles: yeah, we already have this score here. So I think that’s
99 00:09:36.022 ⇒ 00:09:38.800 Casie Aviles: that’s a that works well. And
100 00:09:39.250 ⇒ 00:09:42.949 Casie Aviles: but but the only thing is this is not on na 10. So.
101 00:09:42.950 ⇒ 00:09:43.510 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
102 00:09:44.340 ⇒ 00:09:53.609 Casie Aviles: Yeah. So I I guess that’s the only thing for now. But I’ve yet to explore this long few since. There’s like, I think we could manage prompts over here as well, and.
103 00:09:53.610 ⇒ 00:09:54.380 Uttam Kumaran: Nice.
104 00:09:55.070 ⇒ 00:09:59.790 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think this is, yeah, this is looking pretty good. And
105 00:10:00.110 ⇒ 00:10:03.419 Casie Aviles: I guess other than that there’s also vellum, which
106 00:10:03.540 ⇒ 00:10:09.540 Casie Aviles: I think should also. We. We’re, I think we booked the demo for next week. So
107 00:10:10.980 ⇒ 00:10:13.679 Casie Aviles: yeah, that’s also something to look into, since
108 00:10:13.870 ⇒ 00:10:23.500 Casie Aviles: I mean, that would make things much easier since we’ll we’ll we all we have everything at in one place like the in the Evals observability, and also the builder.
109 00:10:24.030 ⇒ 00:10:27.599 Casie Aviles: So yeah, I guess that’s it from me.
110 00:10:29.520 ⇒ 00:10:31.889 Uttam Kumaran: So do you try brain, you try brain, trust.
111 00:10:33.292 ⇒ 00:10:35.529 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I’ve also tried it, but
112 00:10:36.090 ⇒ 00:10:40.890 Casie Aviles: my only issue was I. I couldn’t get like the costs for the traces.
113 00:10:41.090 ⇒ 00:10:41.980 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.
114 00:10:41.980 ⇒ 00:10:43.110 Casie Aviles: Yeah, this one.
115 00:10:43.320 ⇒ 00:10:44.130 Casie Aviles: And so far.
116 00:10:44.130 ⇒ 00:10:45.190 Uttam Kumaran: Nice to meet you Hi, guys.
117 00:10:45.190 ⇒ 00:10:45.810 Casie Aviles: And both.
118 00:10:46.650 ⇒ 00:10:48.080 Casie Aviles: Oh, for brain trust.
119 00:10:48.080 ⇒ 00:10:48.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
120 00:10:50.350 ⇒ 00:10:52.540 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it looks like this one.
121 00:10:54.850 ⇒ 00:10:57.300 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, I mean the length fuse. One looks better.
122 00:10:59.920 ⇒ 00:11:07.970 Casie Aviles: And I think you could also add some comments with each trace.
123 00:11:09.230 ⇒ 00:11:13.750 Uttam Kumaran: The brain. The Brain Trust website looks so much better than the product.
124 00:11:15.175 ⇒ 00:11:20.012 Casie Aviles: Yeah, but yeah, yeah,
125 00:11:21.170 ⇒ 00:11:22.911 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So you’re saying that
126 00:11:23.410 ⇒ 00:11:25.339 Uttam Kumaran: Langfuse is probably the best.
127 00:11:26.110 ⇒ 00:11:27.499 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think so.
128 00:11:27.500 ⇒ 00:11:31.969 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s let’s let’s get the reaction from Valam.
129 00:11:32.150 ⇒ 00:11:37.040 Uttam Kumaran: And then, worst case, let’s just move with lang fuse. Then.
130 00:11:38.935 ⇒ 00:11:39.669 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
131 00:11:44.490 ⇒ 00:11:47.689 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, awesome. Excited to kind of close that out. And yeah, we’re
132 00:11:47.930 ⇒ 00:11:52.955 Uttam Kumaran: we’ll figure out. Then again, stuff. But okay, I’m I’m happy to see that.
133 00:11:53.900 ⇒ 00:11:55.380 Uttam Kumaran: This is almost done
134 00:11:59.520 ⇒ 00:12:00.330 Uttam Kumaran: cool.
135 00:12:03.712 ⇒ 00:12:06.159 Uttam Kumaran: You didn’t hear back from Craig on anything right.
136 00:12:07.210 ⇒ 00:12:15.409 Casie Aviles: Oh, no, so for that I just did like a quick workaround, like a temporary workaround for the automation.
137 00:12:16.040 ⇒ 00:12:16.610 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
138 00:12:19.640 ⇒ 00:12:20.520 Uttam Kumaran: okay, cool.
139 00:12:30.780 ⇒ 00:12:36.810 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. So then probably we can, we can start working on the improving the lead researcher.
140 00:12:38.150 ⇒ 00:12:39.920 Uttam Kumaran: Next week, right?
141 00:12:40.730 ⇒ 00:12:43.260 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, I think I can work on next week.
142 00:12:43.260 ⇒ 00:12:44.200 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.
143 00:12:45.960 ⇒ 00:12:47.433 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great
144 00:12:48.650 ⇒ 00:12:58.520 Uttam Kumaran: And then, Ryan, I know I owe you stuff for the newsletter. I need to get all the links ready for that. So working on that but anything else on the content side.
145 00:12:59.966 ⇒ 00:13:07.500 Ryan Brosas: Yeah, I think, all good for for my side. I’m just making the other stuff for next week.
146 00:13:07.730 ⇒ 00:13:14.640 Ryan Brosas: Then I think we are good to go. Yeah, I think we are doing well on SEO side also.
147 00:13:15.267 ⇒ 00:13:34.270 Ryan Brosas: And I am almost done with the keyword research for for the competitors and the gap. Also, I already done the tool. I already included on the on the notion page.
148 00:13:34.640 ⇒ 00:13:38.819 Ryan Brosas: And yeah, this is What do you call this?
149 00:13:39.420 ⇒ 00:13:43.940 Ryan Brosas: Removing the fluff from the other stuff, which is
150 00:13:44.711 ⇒ 00:13:53.999 Ryan Brosas: which has like a lot of keyword. That is not necessary. But yeah, it’s looking good. I will. I think I’ll be finishing it by next week.
151 00:13:54.310 ⇒ 00:13:59.999 Ryan Brosas: And are we putting it on the? And then SEO notion page.
152 00:14:00.570 ⇒ 00:14:01.180 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
153 00:14:03.390 ⇒ 00:14:08.370 Uttam Kumaran: cool. And then I know we have a meeting later to talk about goals and metrics and stuff so excited for that.
154 00:14:09.600 ⇒ 00:14:11.330 Ryan Brosas: Yeah, me, too.
155 00:14:13.050 ⇒ 00:14:16.880 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, guys. I think that’s kind of it from my side. Anything else.
156 00:14:20.300 ⇒ 00:14:23.349 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t think so. Don’t have anything on the other side.
157 00:14:25.400 ⇒ 00:14:30.410 Uttam Kumaran: And I think, Nico, I guess you just let me know when, if if you need my help on anything around notion.
158 00:14:30.530 ⇒ 00:14:35.819 Uttam Kumaran: But I know you’re working with Marianne. I just wanna make sure that’s that’s all fine. And then.
159 00:14:36.726 ⇒ 00:14:40.063 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, Marion, we’re we’re onboarding 2 clients.
160 00:14:40.670 ⇒ 00:14:49.669 Uttam Kumaran: so we’re gonna start to kind of use everything. And so I’m really, really excited. I’m gonna just add you the different parts of slack wherever we need help.
161 00:14:50.484 ⇒ 00:14:55.840 Uttam Kumaran: But thanks, the work has been really, really amazing so far. So we’re super super organized.
162 00:14:56.400 ⇒ 00:15:14.090 Mariane Cequina: Okay, thank you. I just wanna say then as well. Since I talked with Nicole while ago, I’ll be doing the project, the tracking of tasks under like projects in every client. So it will also be under internal. So I’m not yet starting for the external. Just wanna
163 00:15:14.995 ⇒ 00:15:15.520 Mariane Cequina: okay.
164 00:15:15.520 ⇒ 00:15:15.999 Nicolas Sucari: You know that.
165 00:15:16.000 ⇒ 00:15:18.200 Mariane Cequina: One, yeah.
166 00:15:18.200 ⇒ 00:15:31.259 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t think I don’t think clients have been using notion a lot. That’s why I think, starting with internal, everything internally is fine, and then we can see how we can use what we have internally to share or create a notion page shared with the client.
167 00:15:31.750 ⇒ 00:15:46.779 Nicolas Sucari: But yeah, in order to track everything for us. I think that’s yeah. We we thought with Marianne. That’s the best way and then we can see how we, if if the client needs an ocean page to see all of the information we can create, that one.
168 00:15:47.130 ⇒ 00:15:51.289 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I’ll let you continue to lead and just work with Marianne on that, and then
169 00:15:52.300 ⇒ 00:15:53.030 Nicolas Sucari: Perfect.
170 00:15:53.430 ⇒ 00:15:55.429 Uttam Kumaran: Just yeah, or anything. You.
171 00:15:55.430 ⇒ 00:16:02.249 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, maybe if if we are, if we’re starting next week with the 2 clients maybe we can start to test
172 00:16:02.753 ⇒ 00:16:22.909 Nicolas Sucari: the the process out and see what works and what doesn’t work, and we can then adjust the notion pages in order to have everything that Robert wanted there. But yeah, let’s let’s work towards that, and see how we can manage internally, and then try to work towards having an external page for the client.
173 00:16:26.310 ⇒ 00:16:27.510 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect.
174 00:16:27.820 ⇒ 00:16:34.770 Uttam Kumaran: Alright guys. Well, thanks. And then, yeah, we’ll kind of kick. Start everything back up next week. I know some people are still out next week, though. But
175 00:16:35.460 ⇒ 00:16:36.360 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, yeah.
176 00:16:37.940 ⇒ 00:16:39.629 Nicolas Sucari: You guys have a great weekend.
177 00:16:39.630 ⇒ 00:16:40.310 Uttam Kumaran: Thanks. Everyone.
178 00:16:40.310 ⇒ 00:16:41.169 Mariane Cequina: Thank you. Guys.
179 00:16:41.170 ⇒ 00:16:42.100 Ryan Brosas: Thank you.
180 00:16:42.600 ⇒ 00:16:42.860 Casie Aviles: You.
181 00:16:42.860 ⇒ 00:16:43.526 Nicolas Sucari: Bye, bye.