Meeting Title: Zoom Meeting Date: 2024-12-23 Meeting participants: Casie Aviles, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:14.480 ⇒ 00:00:15.600 Casie Aviles: Here we come!
2 00:00:16.530 ⇒ 00:00:17.650 Uttam Kumaran: Hey! How are you?
3 00:00:19.293 ⇒ 00:00:25.460 Casie Aviles: Yeah, just recovering from from the flu.
4 00:00:26.110 ⇒ 00:00:28.400 Casie Aviles: But yeah, I’m feeling better now.
5 00:00:28.400 ⇒ 00:00:30.240 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, go ahead.
6 00:00:32.470 ⇒ 00:00:37.100 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. I’m I was sick, like for last 2 weeks. So I finally feel like way better.
7 00:00:37.720 ⇒ 00:00:40.889 Casie Aviles: Oh, really, yeah, it’s been tough.
8 00:00:42.240 ⇒ 00:00:48.449 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m glad I feel a little bit better. But I think everybody’s been feeling a little bit sick.
9 00:00:52.150 ⇒ 00:00:56.200 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Let’s look at the AI board.
10 00:01:33.020 ⇒ 00:01:33.770 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
11 00:02:30.390 ⇒ 00:02:37.989 Uttam Kumaran: okay, cool. So tell me about the AI tell me about the Evals work that’s been going on.
12 00:02:39.856 ⇒ 00:02:46.977 Casie Aviles: Yeah, sure. So mostly, it’s just been researching honestly for the tools.
13 00:02:48.350 ⇒ 00:02:51.660 Casie Aviles: yeah. So like we’ve been, I’ve been.
14 00:02:51.990 ⇒ 00:03:01.990 Casie Aviles: I’ve messaged like near last week. Yeah. And I was asking for like help with what like.
15 00:03:02.240 ⇒ 00:03:08.510 Casie Aviles: how, what? What he’d suggest would be the best way for us to integrate like with N, 8. N, but
16 00:03:08.800 ⇒ 00:03:16.080 Casie Aviles: yeah, I think it’s more difficult when it comes to an a local builder like that. And.
17 00:03:16.080 ⇒ 00:03:16.680 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
18 00:03:17.150 ⇒ 00:03:22.529 Casie Aviles: Yeah, like, I, I think I also mentioned already that I’m seeing that it’s
19 00:03:22.760 ⇒ 00:03:24.950 Casie Aviles: I think we’re going to have to
20 00:03:26.950 ⇒ 00:03:33.120 Casie Aviles: go with sdks. So with code, basically. So yeah, I think that’s the
21 00:03:33.340 ⇒ 00:03:36.750 Casie Aviles: that that’s going to work best moment.
22 00:03:36.920 ⇒ 00:03:41.159 Casie Aviles: But yeah, I I haven’t also checked out the the other
23 00:03:41.380 ⇒ 00:03:44.570 Casie Aviles: tools in depth. Just just trace loop, for now.
24 00:03:46.160 ⇒ 00:03:48.729 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s let’s move past Traceloop.
25 00:03:49.660 ⇒ 00:03:54.840 Uttam Kumaran: I think we know enough. There, I want you to get a sense for the other tools.
26 00:03:56.209 ⇒ 00:03:57.729 Uttam Kumaran: As well.
27 00:04:01.380 ⇒ 00:04:05.460 Uttam Kumaran: And so that we can come hopefully. Make a decision sometime next 2 weeks.
28 00:04:08.198 ⇒ 00:04:12.570 Uttam Kumaran: So I would just go ahead and like book a demo on their site or get in touch with them.
29 00:04:14.320 ⇒ 00:04:17.889 Uttam Kumaran: And let’s do that. And then, yeah, in terms of like, how do we do it as code?
30 00:04:18.130 ⇒ 00:04:29.540 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, one is like, I want to start to see how we can sync N. 8 N. With Github. But frankly, if we need to run N. 8 n. On our own in order for it to work, then maybe there’s an opportunity there.
31 00:04:32.150 ⇒ 00:04:36.280 Uttam Kumaran: But I but again, I think it’s worth asking each of those teams how to do it.
32 00:04:38.650 ⇒ 00:04:39.380 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
33 00:05:02.600 ⇒ 00:05:08.319 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so we still have a due date of January 3.rd So I think this is fine.
34 00:05:13.190 ⇒ 00:05:17.230 Uttam Kumaran: Great. I still have to do these these 2?
35 00:05:18.006 ⇒ 00:05:19.740 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s out on me.
36 00:05:21.810 ⇒ 00:05:23.250 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s talk about
37 00:05:27.200 ⇒ 00:05:29.460 Uttam Kumaran: I think Miguel is still working on this one.
38 00:05:30.830 ⇒ 00:05:36.949 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I haven’t really gotten any updates from him, either about the scraping task.
39 00:05:37.320 ⇒ 00:05:37.930 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
40 00:05:48.570 ⇒ 00:05:51.470 Uttam Kumaran: okay? And then let’s talk about this one for Craig.
41 00:05:56.184 ⇒ 00:06:00.770 Casie Aviles: Yeah, this one. I’m currently working on it. And
42 00:06:01.690 ⇒ 00:06:05.449 Casie Aviles: I might have to just email him, because I, there’s just some
43 00:06:05.970 ⇒ 00:06:11.299 Casie Aviles: something I think there’s like a blocker with how Clavio works, so I’ll I’ll ask him.
44 00:06:14.310 ⇒ 00:06:15.690 Uttam Kumaran: What is it? Specifically.
45 00:06:18.170 ⇒ 00:06:23.240 Casie Aviles: Well, it’s with how we we find like the profiles there. So
46 00:06:24.230 ⇒ 00:06:27.550 Casie Aviles: I think we’ll need a way to identify
47 00:06:27.900 ⇒ 00:06:31.059 Casie Aviles: like the person and how to
48 00:06:31.923 ⇒ 00:06:38.970 Casie Aviles: remove them from the flow. And I would need like their email. But type form the type form entries don’t have the email. So
49 00:06:40.000 ⇒ 00:06:47.940 Casie Aviles: I’ll have. I’ll ask Craig for that. If there’s a way we could get the emails or, Yeah.
50 00:06:55.230 ⇒ 00:06:56.769 Uttam Kumaran: But you can’t do it on name.
51 00:06:58.010 ⇒ 00:06:59.561 Casie Aviles: Sorry name.
52 00:07:00.110 ⇒ 00:07:08.410 Casie Aviles: I don’t. Yeah. I don’t think the Api works that way. I’ve checked like they need to in order to search for the profile they need, like
53 00:07:08.720 ⇒ 00:07:12.020 Casie Aviles: either an email or phone number.
54 00:07:13.710 ⇒ 00:07:17.503 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool, alright great. I’ll let you.
55 00:07:18.610 ⇒ 00:07:20.930 Uttam Kumaran: that’s good. Update. I’ll let you handle that one.
56 00:07:25.320 ⇒ 00:07:31.230 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I wanted to talk about the sales. Lead researcher.
57 00:07:34.560 ⇒ 00:07:38.237 Uttam Kumaran: What did you tell me? If there’s anything in this that you thought was
58 00:07:39.380 ⇒ 00:07:42.419 Uttam Kumaran: sort of difficult, let me know. Like, what did you think?
59 00:07:45.440 ⇒ 00:07:46.290 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
60 00:07:47.080 ⇒ 00:07:54.090 Casie Aviles: Yeah, sure. Well, I think you mentioned somewhere there about creating a slack bot right.
61 00:07:54.090 ⇒ 00:07:54.740 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
62 00:07:56.796 ⇒ 00:08:02.650 Casie Aviles: Yeah, that one I haven’t tried. But I I was wondering why why we want to create a slack, but for it.
63 00:08:05.178 ⇒ 00:08:11.262 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I just think it makes the experience like way better. For example.
64 00:08:13.200 ⇒ 00:08:16.699 Uttam Kumaran: let me show you an example of like a slack bar.
65 00:08:18.930 ⇒ 00:08:21.880 Uttam Kumaran: This is a slack bot that we developed like a while ago.
66 00:08:22.380 ⇒ 00:08:29.049 Uttam Kumaran: But basically like you can tag the app and then say something.
67 00:08:29.650 ⇒ 00:08:34.440 Uttam Kumaran: So one, it makes it a little bit easier. And 2 we’re gonna have. I think we’re gonna probably have different apps.
68 00:08:35.049 ⇒ 00:08:37.799 Uttam Kumaran: So it makes the message
69 00:08:38.260 ⇒ 00:08:45.430 Uttam Kumaran: it like, I don’t know. I think it just makes the routing. And second, I think you can also have web hook triggers. So you can actually skip
70 00:08:45.700 ⇒ 00:08:46.730 Uttam Kumaran: Zapier.
71 00:08:47.160 ⇒ 00:08:47.820 Uttam Kumaran: You need to.
72 00:08:49.520 ⇒ 00:08:50.290 Casie Aviles: Okay.
73 00:08:50.830 ⇒ 00:08:52.009 Uttam Kumaran: Does that make sense.
74 00:08:53.380 ⇒ 00:08:54.120 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah.
75 00:08:55.562 ⇒ 00:08:56.649 Uttam Kumaran: So let me.
76 00:09:01.300 ⇒ 00:09:06.050 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna make sure that you can develop apps.
77 00:09:11.710 ⇒ 00:09:15.369 Uttam Kumaran: Can you go to this api.slack.com slash apps.
78 00:09:16.590 ⇒ 00:09:16.985 Casie Aviles: Sure.
79 00:10:07.920 ⇒ 00:10:09.420 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I’m there.
80 00:10:09.770 ⇒ 00:10:15.560 Uttam Kumaran: So you it it you’re able to create an app right?
81 00:10:16.550 ⇒ 00:10:19.100 Casie Aviles: Yeah. It says, here, create an app.
82 00:10:19.840 ⇒ 00:10:20.720 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.
83 00:10:23.130 ⇒ 00:10:29.290 Uttam Kumaran: So I think, probably what’s so let me go. Here, your apps create new app.
84 00:10:37.370 ⇒ 00:10:39.539 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I I do think that.
85 00:10:40.230 ⇒ 00:10:49.039 Uttam Kumaran: What you can do here is create an app, and then basically have, like webhook triggers.
86 00:11:00.190 ⇒ 00:11:04.260 Uttam Kumaran: This is like a workflow app, I think. Oh, this is a slack app. Okay?
87 00:11:16.630 ⇒ 00:11:18.640 Casie Aviles: And we have to code this bot right?
88 00:11:19.420 ⇒ 00:11:24.020 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know if this needs to be.
89 00:11:26.160 ⇒ 00:11:29.100 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, maybe it does need to be a code.
90 00:11:31.910 ⇒ 00:11:34.550 Uttam Kumaran: But I do think that it could be pretty basic.
91 00:11:34.920 ⇒ 00:11:40.290 Uttam Kumaran: like all it does. All it needs to do is take a web hook and then thread a response right?
92 00:11:59.240 ⇒ 00:12:01.930 Casie Aviles: Yeah, okay, I guess I’ll
93 00:12:02.440 ⇒ 00:12:06.960 Casie Aviles: look more into this, since I haven’t really built a slack slack. But yet.
94 00:12:06.960 ⇒ 00:12:13.459 Uttam Kumaran: I think it would be really good experience as well to try it this way, but definitely, a little bit more difficult.
95 00:12:14.400 ⇒ 00:12:15.689 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
96 00:12:35.218 ⇒ 00:12:44.409 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And then the other thing is like, I want, like in your, in the prompts, we reference, the solutions and things like that I want to switch all of that to using
97 00:12:44.970 ⇒ 00:12:48.390 Uttam Kumaran: basically a live view of our notion services. Page.
98 00:12:50.290 ⇒ 00:12:55.780 Uttam Kumaran: So what did you use previously to export notion to like Markdown?
99 00:12:57.580 ⇒ 00:13:02.039 Casie Aviles: Oh, I think it was Miguel who worked on that. Yeah.
100 00:13:03.050 ⇒ 00:13:03.560 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
101 00:13:10.730 ⇒ 00:13:15.509 Casie Aviles: Yeah, personally, I I he hasn’t shared how he did it
102 00:13:18.640 ⇒ 00:13:20.169 Casie Aviles: with me. But yeah.
103 00:13:31.100 ⇒ 00:13:37.079 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. So that’s 1 thing that’d be super awesome. And then, yeah, you’re gonna caller or exa.
104 00:13:37.940 ⇒ 00:13:39.350 Uttam Kumaran: right? And Google.
105 00:13:40.520 ⇒ 00:13:48.279 Casie Aviles: I, I, yeah, I primarily use Exa for now. And I think it’s it works well for the use case.
106 00:13:50.170 ⇒ 00:13:50.810 Uttam Kumaran: Okay?
107 00:13:52.970 ⇒ 00:13:55.920 Uttam Kumaran: And then this is the format, basically.
108 00:14:03.200 ⇒ 00:14:06.190 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I definitely want the evals to be hooked up here.
109 00:14:19.980 ⇒ 00:14:29.470 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. Any other anything else on the AI side. We want to talk about.
110 00:14:36.380 ⇒ 00:14:41.940 Casie Aviles: I I don’t think so. Yeah, I think I’m that’s everything, all for now.
111 00:14:42.820 ⇒ 00:14:47.960 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, and then I have. I have a couple other things to share.
112 00:14:48.380 ⇒ 00:14:50.480 Uttam Kumaran: One is
113 00:15:00.060 ⇒ 00:15:05.610 Uttam Kumaran: we got a bunch more documents from ABC,
114 00:15:14.720 ⇒ 00:15:18.550 Uttam Kumaran: so I think I’m gonna be planning out some more future work for them.
115 00:15:22.060 ⇒ 00:15:24.220 Uttam Kumaran: We have all their systems here.
116 00:15:30.110 ⇒ 00:15:36.279 Uttam Kumaran: And then they gave us a bunch of Google drive documents. So I will. I’ll I’ll be planning some more work around that.
117 00:15:37.420 ⇒ 00:15:38.060 Casie Aviles: Okay.
118 00:15:41.180 ⇒ 00:15:44.870 Casie Aviles: So they want to add more to the bots. Knowledge.
119 00:15:44.870 ⇒ 00:15:45.630 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
120 00:15:48.720 ⇒ 00:15:49.380 Casie Aviles: Okay.
121 00:15:53.220 ⇒ 00:15:56.069 Uttam Kumaran: That should be good. For as a good test.
122 00:16:00.150 ⇒ 00:16:09.378 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. Alright. If nothing else. I’ll let you go. And then yeah, I’ll probably, you know, chat with you hopefully. You know, when you’re back you’re gonna are you? Gonna be back
123 00:16:10.280 ⇒ 00:16:11.810 Uttam Kumaran: later this week or next week.
124 00:16:13.342 ⇒ 00:16:14.339 Casie Aviles: Later this week.
125 00:16:14.820 ⇒ 00:16:16.339 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Cool. Like, on Thursday.
126 00:16:17.140 ⇒ 00:16:18.589 Casie Aviles: Yeah. Yeah. On Thursday.
127 00:16:18.780 ⇒ 00:16:20.719 Uttam Kumaran: Nice. Okay, okay, then I’ll talk to you. Then.
128 00:16:21.680 ⇒ 00:16:23.350 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, bye, bye, thank you.
129 00:16:23.350 ⇒ 00:16:24.410 Uttam Kumaran: Have a good Christmas.
130 00:16:24.760 ⇒ 00:16:26.010 Casie Aviles: You, too. Hook you too.
131 00:16:26.010 ⇒ 00:16:26.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? Bye.