Meeting Title: Zoom-Meeting Date: 2024-11-15 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Mariane Cequina
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1 00:00:10.360 ⇒ 00:00:11.190 Mariane Cequina: Hello!
2 00:00:12.480 ⇒ 00:00:13.790 Uttam Kumaran: Hey! How are you?
3 00:00:14.150 ⇒ 00:00:15.519 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, I’m doing fine.
4 00:00:16.280 ⇒ 00:00:17.850 Uttam Kumaran: Hey? Thanks for taking the time.
5 00:00:18.470 ⇒ 00:00:20.979 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, thank you. As well. Should I open the camera?
6 00:00:21.440 ⇒ 00:00:23.469 Uttam Kumaran: I’m sure. Yeah, yeah, I’m here, too.
7 00:00:24.020 ⇒ 00:00:24.620 Mariane Cequina: Okay.
8 00:00:25.050 ⇒ 00:00:25.735 Mariane Cequina: Hello.
9 00:00:26.420 ⇒ 00:00:26.799 Uttam Kumaran: Every day.
10 00:00:26.800 ⇒ 00:00:27.520 Mariane Cequina: Well.
11 00:00:28.020 ⇒ 00:00:33.346 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, hope you’re doing well, too. Thanks for all the work this week. I’m you know, Super Super impressed. I think.
12 00:00:34.560 ⇒ 00:00:37.505 Uttam Kumaran: it’s basically a lot of what we need. I think
13 00:00:37.940 ⇒ 00:00:58.369 Uttam Kumaran: kind of how you know. I think you’ve been mainly working with me. And then I know Miguel and Nico are there. But it’s been mostly me, I think, basically, most of the structure of the company we have. Like our kind of like design and content team. We have our data team, our AI team. And then we have, like, kind of like, more leadership. Related stuff.
14 00:00:58.420 ⇒ 00:01:11.849 Uttam Kumaran: So I think the work that we’ve done so far is really great. I think mainly we’ll be looking for feedback between me, Miguel and Nico for a lot of stuff. But I kind of wanted to talk a little bit about like next steps.
15 00:01:12.362 ⇒ 00:01:14.077 Uttam Kumaran: If you’re open to it.
16 00:01:14.990 ⇒ 00:01:29.360 Uttam Kumaran: I think so kind of where we’re at right. Now, I think, for this role in particular, I think we definitely need a lot of like what you’re doing. I think most important to me. Would be the kind of like
17 00:01:29.729 ⇒ 00:01:35.600 Uttam Kumaran: slowly bring you on into sort of meetings, and I think it’s kind of like 2 pieces. One we have like
18 00:01:35.660 ⇒ 00:01:52.217 Uttam Kumaran: kind of a large backlog of things like the Master task list and employee onboarding. That’s like a need to be done. So we have, like a backlog of items. The second thing is like being able to get your help during meetings where we have like a team meeting, we have, like
19 00:01:52.690 ⇒ 00:02:05.960 Uttam Kumaran: a, a, we have like a team meeting, or we have a design meeting where we discuss tasks and updates and allowing us to kind of like build process. Kind of like, based on action items from the meeting.
20 00:02:07.190 ⇒ 00:02:18.140 Uttam Kumaran: I think those are kind of like the key things we need. Like, what did you think about kind of like this the 1st week? Kind of like being able to go through our notion and like, see stuff. What did you think.
21 00:02:18.950 ⇒ 00:02:36.580 Mariane Cequina: Actually it was great that I was able to see the process that you have in notion. So I have the glimpse. So one of the things that I actually noticed is the department stuff. So I wanted to learn more about that. So since you stated that there will be like data so Nicholas would lead it. Is that correct?
22 00:02:36.770 ⇒ 00:02:37.480 Mariane Cequina: That’s fantastic.
23 00:02:37.480 ⇒ 00:02:37.960 Uttam Kumaran: You guys.
24 00:02:37.960 ⇒ 00:02:45.069 Mariane Cequina: Who are under the data. Would it be Ryan? And then you and then brilliant pay? Did I mention.
25 00:02:45.070 ⇒ 00:02:45.530 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
26 00:02:45.770 ⇒ 00:02:55.719 Mariane Cequina: And then in AI, I just wanna clarify for the AI. Miguel leads it so who are under this are Joshua Miguel and Cassie Avil.
27 00:02:55.720 ⇒ 00:02:57.050 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, yes.
28 00:02:57.050 ⇒ 00:03:08.879 Mariane Cequina: Then, for the content will be Ryan Ross. So for the developer I think this will be. Is it? Is it appropriate to say that there will be a different department for developer, or who are those unders with.
29 00:03:09.100 ⇒ 00:03:11.969 Uttam Kumaran: So on the AI team and the
30 00:03:12.430 ⇒ 00:03:16.990 Uttam Kumaran: on the AI team. And then the data team. Those are all like engineers.
31 00:03:17.100 ⇒ 00:03:17.690 Uttam Kumaran: So.
32 00:03:17.690 ⇒ 00:03:18.020 Mariane Cequina: Right.
33 00:03:18.337 ⇒ 00:03:22.782 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. All the people that are working there are engineers on the content side.
34 00:03:23.470 ⇒ 00:03:24.950 Uttam Kumaran: we have Ann.
35 00:03:25.601 ⇒ 00:03:34.360 Uttam Kumaran: We have Anne Ryan and Halim. They are all working on the content web flow, and website design
36 00:03:34.669 ⇒ 00:03:39.460 Uttam Kumaran: and then we have a we have just mainly me and one other person on sales.
37 00:03:41.300 ⇒ 00:03:53.750 Uttam Kumaran: so I kind of like, yeah, I would love to see like how we can actually begin to have like tasks by department, but also have, like some organization by department, you know. And if you look in notion we have sales project management stuff like that. But
38 00:03:53.950 ⇒ 00:03:59.390 Uttam Kumaran: I it’s made a lot of the or organizations come for me, but some of it is used. Some of it isn’t used.
39 00:03:59.725 ⇒ 00:04:07.989 Uttam Kumaran: And but we do have sales meetings. We do have design meetings. We do have AI meetings. We do have data meetings. So each of those leaders
40 00:04:08.050 ⇒ 00:04:11.309 Uttam Kumaran: have ideas on how they want their stuff organized. For sure.
41 00:04:11.310 ⇒ 00:04:31.850 Mariane Cequina: Okay, okay, noted. So I think I think that’s something that I wanted to establish more. If that is something that you’d think that will work to have like a more organized department. So in that way we can create, like a different task view of in each department. So it will be easier for you to to know what are the pending project in.
42 00:04:31.850 ⇒ 00:04:32.480 Uttam Kumaran: Totally.
43 00:04:32.480 ⇒ 00:04:33.840 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, so I think that’s.
44 00:04:33.840 ⇒ 00:04:44.400 Uttam Kumaran: 100. Yeah. And then the other thing is like, I’m I’m pretty good at using notion. Some people are pretty good at using notion some other people again, they’re they’re mainly doing their job.
45 00:04:44.400 ⇒ 00:04:45.170 Mariane Cequina: So.
46 00:04:45.350 ⇒ 00:04:49.949 Uttam Kumaran: They’re they almost treat the notion stuff as like secondary, which is tough, because
47 00:04:50.140 ⇒ 00:05:05.640 Uttam Kumaran: for me, I I think of it almost as equal. Because how do I know what’s going on? If it’s not updated in notion, but part of the reason they’re not doing it is one I think they’re like, where do I go to do that? And they need some training and things like that. So I think we will work on. We’ll work on that as well.
48 00:05:05.940 ⇒ 00:05:07.660 Mariane Cequina: Okay. Noted.
49 00:05:07.900 ⇒ 00:05:08.280 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
50 00:05:08.280 ⇒ 00:05:10.690 Mariane Cequina: So it’s like a like a training, right? Correct?
51 00:05:11.050 ⇒ 00:05:16.390 Uttam Kumaran: It’s mainly like some people may have questions like, for example, every team we want to create a system about how they use notion.
52 00:05:16.420 ⇒ 00:05:32.439 Uttam Kumaran: But for me, I’m gonna be seeing everything. So we’re I’m gonna have like a different process. But their AI team will have a specific need in how they want to use notion sales is gonna have a specific way. And so we’ll be, we can probably go one by one by one and and help that team work basically.
53 00:05:32.750 ⇒ 00:05:34.050 Mariane Cequina: Okay, not that.
54 00:05:34.280 ⇒ 00:05:40.299 Mariane Cequina: So yeah, I think that’s something that I’ve noticed, for now and then, also, I think it will be okay for me to
55 00:05:40.670 ⇒ 00:05:42.559 Mariane Cequina: help you in the meeting.
56 00:05:42.740 ⇒ 00:05:44.310 Mariane Cequina: Yeah. So that will be.
57 00:05:44.310 ⇒ 00:05:49.017 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And usually all of our team meetings are like around this time.
58 00:05:49.630 ⇒ 00:05:57.015 Uttam Kumaran: so that would be helpful again. Like I I think, for the 1st week, I think mainly I just want you to kind of like, see how everything’s going
59 00:05:57.330 ⇒ 00:06:00.849 Uttam Kumaran: meet the people get a sense of like what we’re doing.
60 00:06:00.870 ⇒ 00:06:03.723 Uttam Kumaran: Then we can start one by one by one.
61 00:06:04.640 ⇒ 00:06:31.080 Uttam Kumaran: I think for for me, like I wanna heavily invest in more like sops and process because we’re gonna be adding more people. And right now, we’re very lacking in process and things like that. So that’s where I want to really over invest. And especially when it comes to clients. So that’s the other thing is, we talked about our teams, but we haven’t talked anything about the actual clients. And so we’re gonna be using notion as like the client homepage for a lot of work.
62 00:06:31.080 ⇒ 00:06:31.520 Mariane Cequina: Okay.
63 00:06:31.520 ⇒ 00:06:33.270 Uttam Kumaran: Which means there’s gonna be tasks
64 00:06:33.420 ⇒ 00:06:37.410 Uttam Kumaran: that are related to clients. There’s gonna be tasks that are related to us.
65 00:06:37.560 ⇒ 00:06:45.020 Uttam Kumaran: There’s, of course, going to be people assigned, and those tasks are gonna have due dates. They may be linked to like a Github Pr or a figma link
66 00:06:45.130 ⇒ 00:07:08.170 Uttam Kumaran: right? But I do think there’s like a broad sense of like what we’re doing. So the other thing is, maybe you know, we can probably meet on Monday or something and talk about, like all the different backlogs of things we want to do. But of course we have our team, we have, we have. So we have the whole company from like a management perspective. So for me, the most important thing is knowing what everybody’s doing at any moment.
67 00:07:08.370 ⇒ 00:07:11.089 Uttam Kumaran: and that way I can find out what’s delayed.
68 00:07:11.670 ⇒ 00:07:22.539 Uttam Kumaran: And then I can go. Basically, that’s where I need to run to. As like the leader for me, the biggest thing is what’s what’s the what, what is someone struggling with? And how do I run towards the fire?
69 00:07:23.090 ⇒ 00:07:23.440 Mariane Cequina: For me.
70 00:07:23.440 ⇒ 00:07:33.429 Uttam Kumaran: It’s really important to be able to see that what everybody’s doing. The second thing is, how do we get everybody to use notion as their second brain. Basically, you know, like being able to update their tasks.
71 00:07:33.730 ⇒ 00:07:40.400 Uttam Kumaran: Of course, we’re using clockify for time tracking. But notion is going to be where people are handing things off to other people.
72 00:07:41.129 ⇒ 00:07:50.680 Uttam Kumaran: The 3rd thing is going to be clients. So we’ve heard feedback from clients that it’s not really clear what we’re working on next. What the key milestones are.
73 00:07:51.250 ⇒ 00:07:56.489 Uttam Kumaran: Nico is pretty good at this, but of course Nico is also running meetings and things like that. So
74 00:07:56.580 ⇒ 00:08:13.400 Uttam Kumaran: we have to think about a system that works for our project managers where they can use notion to track what we’re working on for clients what they need feedback on from clients and what’s due. And we will be sending the homepage to client. We’ll be sending the client pages to clients to basically say, here’s what we’ve done in the week.
75 00:08:15.160 ⇒ 00:08:15.980 Uttam Kumaran: you know.
76 00:08:16.840 ⇒ 00:08:28.579 Mariane Cequina: Okay, noted. I. I think I think I also wanted to learn more about the things that you do like in a regular, because I’m not really familiar with that. So in that way I could implement it. And notion is that something that
77 00:08:28.620 ⇒ 00:08:29.850 Mariane Cequina: works for you.
78 00:08:29.850 ⇒ 00:08:33.200 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, totally like, give me a couple of examples.
79 00:08:33.640 ⇒ 00:08:50.120 Mariane Cequina: Like, for example, in client onboarding. So is that is that something of your goal in the future right to create a home page. So I would like to know the process on that, so that we we can build like a notion process on it where client can just like overview
80 00:08:50.140 ⇒ 00:08:55.259 Mariane Cequina: the each process that you’re doing on each project. So is this something that works
81 00:08:56.350 ⇒ 00:08:57.589 Mariane Cequina: capable of doing? Yeah.
82 00:09:00.170 ⇒ 00:09:09.939 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, 100, I think. We should definitely do that. I think I wanna Nico’s out this week. So I wanna do a meeting next week, where we just talk about these items, I think what may be helpful
83 00:09:09.960 ⇒ 00:09:11.570 Uttam Kumaran: in the short term is.
84 00:09:11.580 ⇒ 00:09:15.300 Uttam Kumaran: let’s create like an operations
85 00:09:16.470 ⇒ 00:09:21.310 Uttam Kumaran: sort of area in notion where we can track these tasks that we’re working on.
86 00:09:21.591 ⇒ 00:09:33.900 Uttam Kumaran: And then, of course you can. You can take them on. But I I want to think about this methodically, so that we’re not like we don’t do everything all at once. I think it’s mainly going by like team, by team building trust with people that
87 00:09:34.170 ⇒ 00:09:44.220 Uttam Kumaran: notion is something positive that they should use it more, and that’s working for them. It’s not just like another tool, because in the company. We only have a couple of tools. We only use slack.
88 00:09:44.280 ⇒ 00:09:48.088 Uttam Kumaran: We only use notion we don’t do. We don’t do any inner company email.
89 00:09:48.671 ⇒ 00:09:51.080 Uttam Kumaran: and we use zoom for everything else. So.
90 00:09:51.080 ⇒ 00:09:51.430 Mariane Cequina: Okay.
91 00:09:51.430 ⇒ 00:10:00.740 Uttam Kumaran: It’s very simple. The problem is when it’s like there’s a lot of stuff in slack, and it’s not getting tracked in notion. And the people, miss, because there’s so much stuff going on in slack
92 00:10:01.331 ⇒ 00:10:06.939 Uttam Kumaran: so I’m trying to use notion as like the key project management software for a lot of stuff.
93 00:10:07.030 ⇒ 00:10:09.790 Uttam Kumaran: But of course, like the engineers use github
94 00:10:10.408 ⇒ 00:10:18.189 Uttam Kumaran: some of the content people use some other stuff. But this is going to be the thing that we can all interact with. And we can all be like what’s coming up, what’s due.
95 00:10:18.910 ⇒ 00:10:20.150 Mariane Cequina: Okay. Noted.
96 00:10:21.974 ⇒ 00:10:27.759 Uttam Kumaran: So what do you think about I mean. And this is also the thing. So I don’t. I guess I want to get a sense of
97 00:10:27.840 ⇒ 00:10:35.670 Uttam Kumaran: your availability, and also, like I know you mentioned, you’re available for full for full time. I can. I guess I kind of want to get a sense of like, do you?
98 00:10:35.890 ⇒ 00:10:51.260 Uttam Kumaran: Would you be open to starting like more part time and like kind of figuring some of this stuff out? Because right now we’re kind of in a little bit of a crunch. We’re just onboarding some new clients and kind of like figuring out budgets and everything. But I kinda gotta wanna get to get a sense from you. I’m like.
99 00:10:51.652 ⇒ 00:10:58.460 Uttam Kumaran: I know you mentioned you’re still interested in in full time. But would you be open to something like a little bit part time, just to start.
100 00:10:59.100 ⇒ 00:11:20.760 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, totally. I’ll be open with part time position. And I’m gonna be honest with you. I really interested about creating like operation or management things like that. So I actually enjoyed researching or trying to look on your work process and building process like genuinely, I find it really cool to help you on that one. Yeah.
101 00:11:21.210 ⇒ 00:11:31.202 Uttam Kumaran: Awesome. Yeah, I mean, I’m the same way, like, I love automating and basically kind of with the where I’m thinking. And I think you may really enjoy researching. This is once we have these processes.
102 00:11:31.500 ⇒ 00:11:43.809 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, I’m I’ll introduce you to the AI team, and you can start to figure out how to use AI to automate a lot of this stuff because things about like moving because there’s gonna be stuff. For example, like this Zoom Meeting, it’s getting recorded.
103 00:11:43.830 ⇒ 00:11:47.599 Uttam Kumaran: We have a process now where notes from this get sent into notion.
104 00:11:47.900 ⇒ 00:11:48.360 Mariane Cequina: Okay.
105 00:11:48.360 ⇒ 00:11:52.770 Uttam Kumaran: Think about all the different things we could do, we could potentially say, Okay, let’s say we discuss 5 tasks.
106 00:11:52.830 ⇒ 00:12:00.969 Uttam Kumaran: tasks to get created in notion like. So there’s all this AI automation stuff that I don’t know. Have you played around with like anything in that world yet?
107 00:12:02.110 ⇒ 00:12:04.729 Mariane Cequina: Honestly, I haven’t for now. Yeah. Okay, cool.
108 00:12:04.730 ⇒ 00:12:14.290 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s like a big piece of actually what we do for clients. We have a, we have like a big data business. And then we’re also doing a lot of AI automation. But we do. We use a lot of AI in the company?
109 00:12:14.748 ⇒ 00:12:36.820 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m really excited because but the whole process basically is like we need to figure out what our sops are, what our procedures are. Then before we can automate right? And so that’s what I’m very excited, and I would love to, you know. Share that with you when we get down the line and kind of cause we’re using a lot of very cool tools for transcription, for automation, for process automation.
110 00:12:37.080 ⇒ 00:12:55.019 Uttam Kumaran: That I think you would find really, really interesting. And you’re again, you’re doing all this notion stuff is more complicated than all of that. So you’ll find it. You’ll find it really awesome to test that stuff out. And basically, you know, we look to automate one of the things that when I started the company was like, how do we automate 50% of the business
111 00:12:55.120 ⇒ 00:12:56.480 Uttam Kumaran: meaning like.
112 00:12:57.021 ⇒ 00:13:14.139 Uttam Kumaran: there’s a lot of information. Most of business, just information transfer, right? Someone has some information. They want to tell someone, go do something. Information to get transferred back. AI can help with a lot of that. And so I think that’ll be the last piece that you know. Once we get through the lower hanging fruit. We kind of work towards that.
113 00:13:14.710 ⇒ 00:13:15.380 Mariane Cequina: Okay.
114 00:13:15.480 ⇒ 00:13:17.660 Mariane Cequina: it sounds pretty cool for me.
115 00:13:17.660 ⇒ 00:13:31.148 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, awesome. So I guess one thing is on my side, I will have to get you like contracts and stuff like that. But maybe we can. I’ll I’ll just I can email you about process and things there.
116 00:13:32.110 ⇒ 00:13:49.240 Uttam Kumaran: the second thing is I’m gonna I’ll I’m gonna discuss with Nico and Miguel and just get their sign off. I also want you to meet with meet with some folks next week, so I’ll I’ll arrange some time. Can we go ahead and start like, I think we could probably did you check out management tasks? That like task board?
117 00:13:50.070 ⇒ 00:14:06.160 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I know you, yeah, maybe we can start putting some of these opera like the opera, these operational things that we’re planning between us somewhere in notion. That way we can start to plan again. We can do tasks or subtasks but I will leave it up to you because
118 00:14:06.290 ⇒ 00:14:12.729 Uttam Kumaran: you’re the notion expert. So, however, you think we want to manage, but think of it as like project management for
119 00:14:12.880 ⇒ 00:14:13.750 Uttam Kumaran: you.
120 00:14:14.426 ⇒ 00:14:20.086 Uttam Kumaran: You know. So like, what? What process are we? What sops, are we building? What process are we automating next?
121 00:14:20.630 ⇒ 00:14:24.470 Uttam Kumaran: what for? And in the short term this may be things like,
122 00:14:25.120 ⇒ 00:14:27.509 Uttam Kumaran: okay, go sit with the design team.
123 00:14:27.530 ⇒ 00:14:52.950 Uttam Kumaran: sit on the 2 meetings, learn, gather gather requirements. And then I also, I also want to just like you mentioned. You’re like, who is all these people. That’s something I want to work on where you have access to everybody. You know who all the people are, because I’m not run. I’m not like I’m just one part of the company. There are many people who run their own divisions, and so they need a lot of help, and I think you’ll be a huge resource for them.
124 00:14:53.600 ⇒ 00:15:04.140 Mariane Cequina: Okay, yeah, exactly. That’s why I actually thinking, because I wanted to familiarize with different departments as well, because I don’t wanna bother you all the time, or asking you, so it’ll.
125 00:15:04.140 ⇒ 00:15:08.130 Uttam Kumaran: No, I won’t even you won’t be able to get a hold of me. Don’t worry.
126 00:15:08.380 ⇒ 00:15:11.229 Mariane Cequina: It would be great to like, meet them and then ask about the problem.
127 00:15:11.230 ⇒ 00:15:11.590 Uttam Kumaran: All right.
128 00:15:11.590 ⇒ 00:15:15.550 Mariane Cequina: And what? Where I can like help them? Particularly, yeah, definitely, yeah.
129 00:15:15.550 ⇒ 00:15:21.510 Uttam Kumaran: And so we actually have a team meeting today. I didn’t. We have a team meeting? It’s actually at.
130 00:15:21.720 ⇒ 00:15:40.940 Uttam Kumaran: It’s at 11 am. My time. So it’s in 1, 2, maybe 2 and a half hours. I know it’s late, so no pressure to attend. But I would love if you can attend the Monday meeting, and maybe I can add you there. That way you can meet the whole team and I would love to introduce you and kind of like, just kick stuff off
131 00:15:41.248 ⇒ 00:15:56.990 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll be working tomorrow, too, on like putting like random stuff. So in case you’re online, and you wanna chat? I’ll be much more free. But I will also. If you tell me where to go. Put in these operational tasks. I can go add a bunch this weekend
132 00:15:57.396 ⇒ 00:16:00.323 Uttam Kumaran: so that we can kind of get started.
133 00:16:02.090 ⇒ 00:16:13.199 Uttam Kumaran: And yeah, I mean, look, it’s gonna take a while to learn all that. We it’s a technical company. So don’t be. Don’t worry about like not knowing exactly what we do and stuff. It’s gonna take some time but for me, like I love your energy.
134 00:16:13.210 ⇒ 00:16:20.949 Uttam Kumaran: and I work. I could tell like I work as fast as you, and I’m just as methodical. So I’m like, very, very excited, because that’s the people we.
135 00:16:20.960 ⇒ 00:16:35.639 Uttam Kumaran: the people we bring on to Brainforge are people who are, we consider, like high agency meaning they manage their own shit like they’re like, okay, even if I didn’t hear back, I’m gonna go right. The people that really don’t do well, here is the people who are like waiting
136 00:16:35.720 ⇒ 00:16:38.539 Uttam Kumaran: waiting for this, waiting for that. So
137 00:16:38.690 ⇒ 00:16:41.210 Uttam Kumaran: we’re we move very, very fast. But
138 00:16:41.450 ⇒ 00:17:05.630 Uttam Kumaran: we’re doing that for a reason, because we’re growing so that’s 1 of the things I wanted to invest in this in this sort of initiative. I don’t think we’re gonna bring on I basically want you to kind of start to lead, almost like the operational complexity of the business, like processes, procedures. And we can start to map that out. So I’m very, very excited. So what we’ll do is we’ll plan out probably next week what the next.
139 00:17:05.720 ⇒ 00:17:13.688 Uttam Kumaran: at least, probably like what we’re gonna try to accomplish by the end of the year, and we can sort of plan that out with everybody, and then kind of just like, let you go and
140 00:17:14.150 ⇒ 00:17:16.619 Uttam Kumaran: The other thing is each we will also.
141 00:17:17.160 ⇒ 00:17:26.194 Uttam Kumaran: Every team has, like a certain meeting cadence that we can also probably document in, like the team homepage, or something like that, but I’ll start to include you on everything, and then
142 00:17:26.792 ⇒ 00:17:30.830 Uttam Kumaran: also, I’ll I’ll make sure that people book some time with you to to chat with you next week.
143 00:17:31.320 ⇒ 00:17:32.620 Mariane Cequina: Okay, noted.
144 00:17:32.630 ⇒ 00:17:45.619 Mariane Cequina: So everything will be like started next week of attending meeting. But for now I would start creating the like. Everything that I’ve noticed, like, for example, in documentation. If there’s something I can do to organize it more better.
145 00:17:45.620 ⇒ 00:17:46.050 Uttam Kumaran: Please.
146 00:17:46.050 ⇒ 00:17:48.300 Mariane Cequina: I will just like, put it there. Yeah, because.
147 00:17:48.300 ⇒ 00:17:49.100 Uttam Kumaran: 100%. Yeah.
148 00:17:49.100 ⇒ 00:17:51.330 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, yeah, that’s okay, totally. And it’s just gonna you know.
149 00:17:51.330 ⇒ 00:17:56.020 Uttam Kumaran: Don’t wait. Yeah, don’t wait at all. If you’re someone who’s like, I see this thing, and you’re like, I can’t.
150 00:17:56.100 ⇒ 00:18:05.969 Uttam Kumaran: I can’t watch this be this ugly feel free? Go! I don’t. Don’t worry about anything. In fact, I would rather you make a mistake than wait.
151 00:18:06.020 ⇒ 00:18:08.940 Uttam Kumaran: because it’s not a mistake. It’s just like
152 00:18:09.010 ⇒ 00:18:11.439 Uttam Kumaran: for me, everybody. I want people to fail fast.
153 00:18:11.460 ⇒ 00:18:30.279 Uttam Kumaran: and then we’d have a discussion and we move on. Waiting is not the way this game is gonna be played at all. I don’t want anybody waiting for anything. And the problem is like, you’re not gonna have a hundred percent knowledge. And still, it’s okay. Just go. Just try things. It’ll be totally fine. It’s just notion. So it’s like, it’s, it’s nothing crazy.
154 00:18:30.610 ⇒ 00:18:32.199 Mariane Cequina: Okay? Noted. Okay?
155 00:18:32.200 ⇒ 00:18:32.790 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
156 00:18:33.650 ⇒ 00:18:49.410 Uttam Kumaran: okay, cool. Well, I will add you to the team meeting today again. I know it’s late. So if if you’re if you’re on feel free to join, if not, no problem, and then I’ll send you some stuff in slack about contract and things like that. And then, yeah, let’s aim to get started on Monday.
157 00:18:49.910 ⇒ 00:18:50.620 Mariane Cequina: Okay.
158 00:18:50.950 ⇒ 00:18:52.980 Mariane Cequina: noted. Yeah. Thank you so much.
159 00:18:53.320 ⇒ 00:18:59.559 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, thank you so much. And I really appreciate the effort this week. I know we didn’t chat much, but that’ll change, you know. But I guess.
160 00:18:59.560 ⇒ 00:19:01.219 Mariane Cequina: Fine, actually. And I.
161 00:19:01.220 ⇒ 00:19:01.640 Uttam Kumaran: What about?
162 00:19:01.640 ⇒ 00:19:08.210 Mariane Cequina: I hear you so much. So that’s why I’m actually recording in loom video as much as I can. This is something I also want to visualize in the future. Yeah.
163 00:19:08.480 ⇒ 00:19:36.316 Uttam Kumaran: It’s perfect, and you know for me it’s like, Look, we’re an Async company, and I I don’t care when people work. I just care about the work getting done. But also I know some of this work you need. You need assistance from me, and you need you need contacts. And so we kind of threw you into stuff. But I think the as soon as I saw this stuff I was like, this is exactly it, because with very little information. You went the distance. Imagine if you had all the information, it’s like, you know. So for me, that’s the really the stuff I’m looking for
164 00:19:36.740 ⇒ 00:19:44.569 Uttam Kumaran: and so we’ll have process on making sure that you have all the information for me. And then again, I’ll introduce you to everybody else on the team. So
165 00:19:44.900 ⇒ 00:19:58.460 Uttam Kumaran: And we do a lot of we don’t. We do a lot of stuff like in the slack channels. So everybody’s talking like. It’s not like a lot of big DM culture. Most people just try to talk in slack channel, so you’ll be able to see everything in in all the chats. So.
166 00:19:59.420 ⇒ 00:20:02.559 Mariane Cequina: Okay, note that. Okay, that’s sounds great. Yeah.
167 00:20:02.810 ⇒ 00:20:07.870 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Well, thanks, Marianne. I’ll add you today. And then, yeah, if not, talk to you on Monday.
168 00:20:08.150 ⇒ 00:20:11.090 Mariane Cequina: Okay, I think Monday will be fine. Is that something that will work? Yeah.
169 00:20:11.090 ⇒ 00:20:11.550 Uttam Kumaran: That’s perfect.
170 00:20:11.550 ⇒ 00:20:19.360 Mariane Cequina: Thank you. Okay, thank you very much, and I will just put it everything in the notion and then show it. Thank you very much have a great day. Yeah.