Meeting Title: Uttam <> Anne Date: 2024-11-15 Meeting participants: Anne, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:23:26.040 ⇒ 00:23:26.920 Uttam Kumaran: Hi!
2 00:23:34.160 ⇒ 00:23:34.820 Uttam Kumaran: Why is it?
3 00:23:34.820 ⇒ 00:23:35.780 Anne: Hello! Hello!
4 00:23:36.500 ⇒ 00:23:37.640 Uttam Kumaran: Hey! How are you?
5 00:23:38.470 ⇒ 00:23:40.209 Anne: Hi! I am good. Thank you.
6 00:23:40.210 ⇒ 00:23:45.170 Uttam Kumaran: Sorry for the delay. I’m just. We’re just talking to just talking to Miguel about
7 00:23:45.350 ⇒ 00:23:49.649 Uttam Kumaran: some of the Demos and stuff we want to do for the site, and got carried away. So.
8 00:23:51.800 ⇒ 00:23:53.479 Anne: I have gotten more of it.
9 00:23:55.573 ⇒ 00:23:56.520 Uttam Kumaran: How’s everything?
10 00:24:01.780 ⇒ 00:24:02.550 Anne: Sorry.
11 00:24:02.990 ⇒ 00:24:04.860 Uttam Kumaran: Said, how’s everything going.
12 00:24:05.310 ⇒ 00:24:06.709 Anne: Yeah, all good. Thank you.
13 00:24:07.350 ⇒ 00:24:09.980 Anne: So same, same, just working.
14 00:24:10.690 ⇒ 00:24:12.680 Uttam Kumaran: Is this a do you? Are you?
15 00:24:12.820 ⇒ 00:24:17.270 Uttam Kumaran: Do you like same same, or do you want you? Are you like someone who needs a lot of change?
16 00:24:20.930 ⇒ 00:24:24.130 Anne: I don’t know. It depends depends on the budget
17 00:24:26.050 ⇒ 00:24:34.980 Anne: cause. Sometimes like yesterday just went to the grocery, and then tomorrow we’ll visit family. So
18 00:24:35.410 ⇒ 00:24:35.975 Anne: yeah.
19 00:24:37.840 ⇒ 00:24:39.315 Uttam Kumaran: What do you think about
20 00:24:40.140 ⇒ 00:24:41.100 Uttam Kumaran: like
21 00:24:41.270 ⇒ 00:24:45.319 Uttam Kumaran: cause? I don’t know for me, I’m sure as you can tell, like I
22 00:24:45.720 ⇒ 00:24:48.500 Uttam Kumaran: I like to do like a million different things.
23 00:24:50.570 ⇒ 00:24:54.790 Uttam Kumaran: but there’s some days where I re like there’s some days where I just wanna focus on like one thing.
24 00:24:54.990 ⇒ 00:24:58.749 Uttam Kumaran: But I for me, cause I have to manage all this stuff. I have to jump.
25 00:24:59.720 ⇒ 00:25:00.500 Anne: Yeah, yeah.
26 00:25:00.500 ⇒ 00:25:05.199 Uttam Kumaran: But I feel like, compared to other people on the team, like some people. If I leave alone for too long.
27 00:25:05.560 ⇒ 00:25:09.749 Uttam Kumaran: they’ll start like they won’t be able to figure out what’s going on. But I feel like you’re like.
28 00:25:10.320 ⇒ 00:25:14.791 Uttam Kumaran: you’re like, cool. This is great. I’ll let me crush this. Here’s next thing. Next thing. Next thing.
29 00:25:17.130 ⇒ 00:25:19.679 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s just interesting to see how everybody works.
30 00:25:20.490 ⇒ 00:25:27.879 Anne: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. In working, I just focus on task. Like, for example, I usually work
31 00:25:28.120 ⇒ 00:25:38.270 Anne: one pm, here in Manila, and then 2, 5, 6 pm. I just want to focus on the task. And then after that.
32 00:25:38.290 ⇒ 00:25:40.740 Anne: I’ll just browse and pick the Instagram.
33 00:25:41.315 ⇒ 00:25:41.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
34 00:25:41.890 ⇒ 00:25:44.554 Anne: I don’t want to be disturbed when I’m working.
35 00:25:45.140 ⇒ 00:25:48.028 Uttam Kumaran: That’s good. At least that makes one of us.
36 00:25:48.620 ⇒ 00:25:53.759 Uttam Kumaran: I for me. I just try to make Wednesdays. I try not to take any meetings, but still I have meetings.
37 00:25:54.231 ⇒ 00:25:58.250 Uttam Kumaran: But it’s because I want to talk to everybody about like different things we’re doing. And
38 00:25:58.885 ⇒ 00:26:03.169 Uttam Kumaran: you know, for me. I have a vision about where things are wanna go. And
39 00:26:03.260 ⇒ 00:26:07.839 Uttam Kumaran: sometimes, if you if you just let the train go, it may go in a direction that.
40 00:26:08.330 ⇒ 00:26:09.799 Uttam Kumaran: you know we don’t want to.
41 00:26:10.310 ⇒ 00:26:11.510 Uttam Kumaran: and
42 00:26:11.540 ⇒ 00:26:22.420 Uttam Kumaran: that’s the thing it’s like, how do I balance all of that, you know. So I guess. Like, I guess. How? How do you think everything is going? You, you know, since you started, what do you think about
43 00:26:22.830 ⇒ 00:26:29.280 Uttam Kumaran: what we’re doing overall? And how’s everything going on, not only on your side, but for the company interested in your feedback.
44 00:26:30.390 ⇒ 00:26:31.075 Anne: Well,
45 00:26:31.910 ⇒ 00:26:43.609 Anne: Whenever I see Orion Miguel or Luke Post about AI, I really don’t understand like Oh, shit I I don’t know about AI.
46 00:26:43.880 ⇒ 00:26:44.470 Uttam Kumaran: Why?
47 00:26:44.470 ⇒ 00:26:46.039 Anne: What they’re talking about.
48 00:26:47.154 ⇒ 00:26:53.090 Anne: I don’t know. Maybe I’m outdated like, in terms of softwares or
49 00:26:55.410 ⇒ 00:27:00.879 Anne: yeah, basically about softwares. Cause there’s a lot of softwares that been around.
50 00:27:00.890 ⇒ 00:27:02.150 Anne: and
51 00:27:02.370 ⇒ 00:27:03.460 Anne: alright.
52 00:27:04.090 ⇒ 00:27:09.170 Anne: I maybe I’m not keeping up with them that much, since it’s too technical for me.
53 00:27:10.520 ⇒ 00:27:12.240 Uttam Kumaran: But you’re still using
54 00:27:12.748 ⇒ 00:27:16.419 Uttam Kumaran: like mid journey. And we were using that other
55 00:27:16.640 ⇒ 00:27:20.690 Uttam Kumaran: like AI illustration thing. So you’re still using AI.
56 00:27:21.070 ⇒ 00:27:22.729 Anne: Well, well, yeah, what?
57 00:27:23.520 ⇒ 00:27:26.590 Anne: Yeah. But you know in design side, but in terms.
58 00:27:26.590 ⇒ 00:27:28.370 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but that’s it. You don’t like
59 00:27:28.770 ⇒ 00:27:33.030 Uttam Kumaran: how? What? Yeah, I mean, I guess you’re right. But it’s also
60 00:27:33.250 ⇒ 00:27:35.214 Uttam Kumaran: this is the thing is like, I think.
61 00:27:36.090 ⇒ 00:27:37.080 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t.
62 00:27:37.740 ⇒ 00:27:46.720 Uttam Kumaran: Here’s how I think about brain force, too, is we have experts and everything. If we have. If everybody knows, if everybody knows everything, then nobody knows anything deep.
63 00:27:46.810 ⇒ 00:27:48.340 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s the thing is like.
64 00:27:48.440 ⇒ 00:27:54.439 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think I don’t think you should have too much, Fomo, but also but also, like
65 00:27:54.460 ⇒ 00:27:59.669 Uttam Kumaran: you’re right is that I want to try to do more like educational stuff where we all like, learn
66 00:28:00.152 ⇒ 00:28:04.739 Uttam Kumaran: like, for example, we’re gonna be doing a lot on voice. AI,
67 00:28:04.950 ⇒ 00:28:06.350 Uttam Kumaran: for example, like
68 00:28:06.370 ⇒ 00:28:13.420 Uttam Kumaran: I, we had a night like we’re building it right now, where you can call a number, and it’s like a fake brain forge
69 00:28:13.650 ⇒ 00:28:16.660 Uttam Kumaran: representative picks up and is like, Hey.
70 00:28:16.960 ⇒ 00:28:18.839 Uttam Kumaran: I’m so and so from Brainforge
71 00:28:18.900 ⇒ 00:28:28.399 Uttam Kumaran: like, How can I help you today? Oh, well, I just want to learn about what you guys do. Oh, like, here’s what we do. Here’s what we do. Ask you a question. And you’re like, Oh, my God is this like a person
72 00:28:28.410 ⇒ 00:28:29.660 Uttam Kumaran: that’s like.
73 00:28:29.830 ⇒ 00:28:37.080 Uttam Kumaran: that’s what I want to build, because then, if we build it, then I can, then we can all learn each of the individual pieces right?
74 00:28:38.010 ⇒ 00:28:42.899 Anne: Yup, yup, yeah, I I think that’s Bland. AI and Bobby, yeah, I.
75 00:28:42.900 ⇒ 00:28:43.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
76 00:28:43.430 ⇒ 00:28:48.340 Anne: That. And then, yeah, it’s really cool that there’s a thing like that that
77 00:28:48.500 ⇒ 00:28:50.479 Anne: maybe you don’t have to
78 00:28:51.002 ⇒ 00:28:52.480 Anne: hire a Va
79 00:28:52.730 ⇒ 00:28:55.421 Anne: for like us. I know more
80 00:28:55.990 ⇒ 00:29:05.280 Anne: companies in the Us. Like dental clinics, healthcare providers hire va like to answer phones set up an appointment. So maybe.
81 00:29:05.280 ⇒ 00:29:05.740 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
82 00:29:06.225 ⇒ 00:29:13.014 Anne: With that they won’t be needing pace, but too sad for for people.
83 00:29:13.500 ⇒ 00:29:17.650 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think it’s I don’t think it’s gonna be as crazy as that. I think
84 00:29:17.790 ⇒ 00:29:25.010 Uttam Kumaran: people are just gonna have. People are just gonna do more things that are complicated and that require people like to call people and like, be like.
85 00:29:25.360 ⇒ 00:29:31.719 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, I want to check in on your booking. Can you confirm? Yes, okay, it’s like, W. That’s so boring
86 00:29:31.810 ⇒ 00:29:34.990 Uttam Kumaran: people wanna work on complicated things right like.
87 00:29:35.030 ⇒ 00:29:41.639 Uttam Kumaran: And so I don’t know. For some, for some reason. I always think that it’s gonna help people go work on more complex stuff.
88 00:29:42.339 ⇒ 00:29:50.580 Uttam Kumaran: But also things are expensive. So we even us, we had 2 companies right now that we’re talking to that want some sort of voice
89 00:29:50.750 ⇒ 00:29:51.514 Uttam Kumaran: related.
90 00:29:52.630 ⇒ 00:29:54.429 Uttam Kumaran: related Agent. So
91 00:29:55.000 ⇒ 00:29:55.900 Uttam Kumaran: I’m
92 00:29:56.220 ⇒ 00:30:04.210 Uttam Kumaran: I’m I want us to build it, because then we know how to build them. And then we can share. Because, for example, if someone calls me is like, Do you guys know about how to do this.
93 00:30:04.860 ⇒ 00:30:11.619 Uttam Kumaran: I was just talking to my guy, I explained them, and then, just just like you mentioned, they’re like, I have no idea what you’re talking about.
94 00:30:11.900 ⇒ 00:30:16.709 Uttam Kumaran: cause I’m like, there’s that be. And then there’s this text to speech, and then there’s a AI, and they’re like
95 00:30:17.260 ⇒ 00:30:19.720 Uttam Kumaran: dude. And then instead, what I want to do is like
96 00:30:19.970 ⇒ 00:30:23.760 Uttam Kumaran: we. This is totally what we do actually, instead of me telling you about it.
97 00:30:23.770 ⇒ 00:30:30.559 Uttam Kumaran: Here’s our. Here’s our AI agent. Give it a call. You’ll kind of get a sense of what’s possible.
98 00:30:31.450 ⇒ 00:30:32.540 Anne: Yeah, yeah.
99 00:30:32.540 ⇒ 00:30:37.219 Uttam Kumaran: That’s the real show and tell sort of stuff that I want to try.
100 00:30:37.350 ⇒ 00:30:45.169 Uttam Kumaran: Similarly with the chat bots like we’re gonna Miguel’s working on like chat bots, and I want to put it one up on the site because
101 00:30:45.220 ⇒ 00:31:04.279 Uttam Kumaran: I feel like a lot of chat bots aren’t good. But also we do have a lot of clients that ask us for them. So how can we work on one that’s actually really good. And then, actually, it’s integrating the site really? Well, because Miguel was like, do you want to put one in the left corner? How do you want to do? I said. I said, don’t worry about the ux. I gotta talk to Ann, because we’ll make it look good. But
102 00:31:04.300 ⇒ 00:31:18.489 Uttam Kumaran: if you, the agents great, then we’ll find ways of integrating. But I I want to try to do more, Demos, because right now our site is very text heavy, right? And even this current site, I think, looks really amazing. I still think.
103 00:31:18.530 ⇒ 00:31:21.450 Uttam Kumaran: And we learned this in our design brainstorm, like
104 00:31:21.700 ⇒ 00:31:26.320 Uttam Kumaran: clearly articulating what we do is still not great. Right?
105 00:31:27.850 ⇒ 00:31:31.899 Uttam Kumaran: So there’s a couple of ways. But also I I also think there’s a way of doing it where it’s just like
106 00:31:32.080 ⇒ 00:31:41.440 Uttam Kumaran: articulate. What we do is through Demos. Here’s like 10 Demos of what we do. Here’s like a data, demo. Here’s a voice Agent, Demo. Here’s a Chatbot demo.
107 00:31:41.590 ⇒ 00:31:46.219 Uttam Kumaran: You don’t have to read anything. Just go try those things out, and you’ll you’ll be able to see what we do.
108 00:31:46.510 ⇒ 00:31:50.249 Uttam Kumaran: So we’re getting. We’re, I think we have a good path.
109 00:31:50.430 ⇒ 00:31:51.900 Uttam Kumaran: you know, there as well.
110 00:31:53.440 ⇒ 00:31:56.030 Anne: Yeah, I think that’s a good idea. Because
111 00:31:56.040 ⇒ 00:32:00.670 Anne: if, like, for example, I’m the customer, I’d like to test how you guys
112 00:32:00.730 ⇒ 00:32:02.120 Anne: do the
113 00:32:02.180 ⇒ 00:32:05.640 Anne: the customer service thing. So
114 00:32:05.820 ⇒ 00:32:13.750 Anne: like, yeah, the best example would be the or the blend where you can just call this number. So you can test it yourself.
115 00:32:14.110 ⇒ 00:32:14.450 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
116 00:32:14.450 ⇒ 00:32:15.390 Anne: 1 h
117 00:32:16.100 ⇒ 00:32:18.260 Anne: you get the gist of it. Yeah.
118 00:32:18.610 ⇒ 00:32:24.510 Uttam Kumaran: And the nice thing is like that will be like, it’s like, we’re almost selling ourselves. But it’s like, Hey, I’m brain. I’m a brain forge agent
119 00:32:24.950 ⇒ 00:32:29.780 Uttam Kumaran: like this is a demo. But I wanna I’m here to tell you about what I can do.
120 00:32:30.960 ⇒ 00:32:45.169 Uttam Kumaran: Here’s a list of things you can do, but also feel free to ask me questions like, Imagine you call that you’re like, Oh, my God! These guys are so smart! If I called, if I saw someone do that. These guys are genius. So I want to try those things. And you know, the other thing is, we’re getting a lot of good
121 00:32:45.290 ⇒ 00:33:06.069 Uttam Kumaran: anytime. We do things that’s not that that isn’t generic. We’re getting a lot of love for it. Like, even on Linkedin. We post content. That’s kind of technical. Anytime. We post anything that’s generic. Nobody nobody likes and nobody reads it. It’s only the stuff that’s like very specific and very niche that people really love and want to spend time reading.
122 00:33:06.070 ⇒ 00:33:24.140 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s what I’m telling Ryan, too, because I think Ryan is used to writing content. That’s like broad. I’m like we need to write stuff that’s very specific. Don’t worry. If people don’t get it. It’s because the people that do get it will be like, wow! They know what they’re talking about. If you do too broad, then everybody’s like
123 00:33:24.500 ⇒ 00:33:27.060 Uttam Kumaran: this is so surface level, right?
124 00:33:27.220 ⇒ 00:33:31.000 Uttam Kumaran: So we want to do things with an audience in mind, you know.
125 00:33:31.755 ⇒ 00:33:34.680 Uttam Kumaran: That’s that’s that’s the thing that I’m like
126 00:33:35.270 ⇒ 00:33:38.280 Uttam Kumaran: trying to be more in tune with.
127 00:33:39.810 ⇒ 00:33:43.310 Anne: Yep, yep, I I think the brainstorm last week
128 00:33:44.580 ⇒ 00:33:48.129 Anne: I mean like this week or last week.
129 00:33:48.130 ⇒ 00:33:52.870 Uttam Kumaran: It was last week. Yeah, I don’t. I’m not a good person. I’m not a good person to ask. I don’t know when it was.
130 00:33:53.310 ⇒ 00:33:53.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
131 00:33:53.800 ⇒ 00:33:59.730 Anne: So it was really helpful, you know, just throwing Abs with the team. And
132 00:34:00.480 ⇒ 00:34:02.589 Anne: yeah, maybe we should
133 00:34:02.880 ⇒ 00:34:05.359 Anne: have it once a month at least.
134 00:34:05.460 ⇒ 00:34:05.989 Anne: I think.
135 00:34:05.990 ⇒ 00:34:07.899 Uttam Kumaran: So I want to do one next month.
136 00:34:08.393 ⇒ 00:34:11.689 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I wanna make sure that we actually get some of these
137 00:34:12.020 ⇒ 00:34:15.629 Uttam Kumaran: cause. Otherwise the next one’s gonna be the same. It’s gonna be the same one.
138 00:34:15.870 ⇒ 00:34:16.349 Anne: Yeah, yeah.
139 00:34:16.350 ⇒ 00:34:23.229 Uttam Kumaran: So I wanna make sure some of these. And maybe we can talk about it today kind of like, I I guess in our meeting later. I wanted to talk to you about like.
140 00:34:23.540 ⇒ 00:34:25.759 Uttam Kumaran: what are we gonna do for the rest of the year?
141 00:34:25.770 ⇒ 00:34:28.180 Uttam Kumaran: But also, maybe we can talk now.
142 00:34:28.370 ⇒ 00:34:31.569 Uttam Kumaran: Why not? Well, well, 1st I want to talk to you about like the team.
143 00:34:31.920 ⇒ 00:34:50.160 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I think you know, we had. Jp, we’re moving everything to Halim. I think Halim is a lot better, although he’s still kind of like part time. I think Ryan is really good on the content side. And you know hopefully that you guys are working well together on the illustrations and stuff, cause I know that’s like.
144 00:34:50.340 ⇒ 00:34:51.729 Uttam Kumaran: that’s a
145 00:34:51.820 ⇒ 00:34:54.070 Uttam Kumaran: more like that’s a different set of work.
146 00:34:54.574 ⇒ 00:35:00.460 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, I guess, like, what do you think about the team overall? And like our actual production process.
147 00:35:01.770 ⇒ 00:35:07.320 Anne: I think right now. We’re getting in the system, or like we’re aligned.
148 00:35:07.810 ⇒ 00:35:09.500 Anne: Because before we’re like.
149 00:35:09.680 ⇒ 00:35:15.199 Anne: Oh, please mention me in this illustration like it. I can do it
150 00:35:15.290 ⇒ 00:35:28.820 Anne: for you instead of like doing yourself, because I know your focus in content, but also I’m here to help you with with the images. And also if maybe since we’re setting
151 00:35:29.337 ⇒ 00:35:37.290 Anne: visual illustrations or direction in our website and our socials, maybe we got to stick to it. Yeah, but
152 00:35:37.650 ⇒ 00:35:40.120 Anne: I know Ryan’s been careful
153 00:35:40.190 ⇒ 00:35:45.430 Anne: nowadays in terms of editing stuff. So I think that’s good.
154 00:35:47.670 ⇒ 00:35:49.600 Uttam Kumaran: What do you think about for the site.
155 00:35:51.189 ⇒ 00:35:57.480 Anne: Yeah, for the website. I think Halim is doing a great job yeah.
156 00:35:57.670 ⇒ 00:36:05.936 Anne: And then, he’s really like, he’s really throwing ideas and stuff. If this is okay, and he’s really
157 00:36:06.500 ⇒ 00:36:09.084 Anne: updated to web flows.
158 00:36:09.750 ⇒ 00:36:11.300 Anne: like features.
159 00:36:11.760 ⇒ 00:36:12.470 Anne: Yeah.
160 00:36:13.200 ⇒ 00:36:13.820 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
161 00:36:14.000 ⇒ 00:36:15.575 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? Great, yeah. And I,
162 00:36:16.090 ⇒ 00:36:24.610 Uttam Kumaran: you know, I think using the notion is gonna help. I’m also we’re gonna bring on someone to help keep notion organized, and attend some of our meetings, and kind of like.
163 00:36:24.610 ⇒ 00:36:25.000 Anne: Hmm.
164 00:36:25.000 ⇒ 00:36:28.349 Uttam Kumaran: Keep things organized in terms of like, who’s working on what?
165 00:36:29.575 ⇒ 00:36:36.710 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s helpful, I mean, look, I think we’re we’re coming up on our 1st full. I mean, basically.
166 00:36:37.110 ⇒ 00:36:40.309 Uttam Kumaran: we’ve redesigned every single part of the site right.
167 00:36:40.540 ⇒ 00:36:40.770 Anne: Yeah.
168 00:36:41.630 ⇒ 00:36:44.109 Uttam Kumaran: So now I think we’re gonna have some
169 00:36:44.180 ⇒ 00:36:46.749 Uttam Kumaran: room to think about net new pages like.
170 00:36:46.790 ⇒ 00:36:50.749 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t care much about going back and editing the case, study
171 00:36:50.860 ⇒ 00:36:55.769 Uttam Kumaran: the case, studies landing page or services landing page. For me. It’s like, I want to think about what’s
172 00:36:55.830 ⇒ 00:37:04.459 Uttam Kumaran: what’s the next like highest leverage. Item, because we can go make copy changes and things like that. But, for example, redesigning the homepage to be like
173 00:37:04.560 ⇒ 00:37:15.449 Uttam Kumaran: clearly articulates what we do and how we bring you value. That’s very important to me. Second thing is, how do we get the Demos right? 3rd thing is, I still think the nav isn’t good.
174 00:37:15.920 ⇒ 00:37:20.520 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. I don’t know. I gotta. I have to think about how to like what to do. But
175 00:37:20.790 ⇒ 00:37:25.230 Uttam Kumaran: right, those are things where it’s like, if we fix, I think we’ll help a lot of stuff.
176 00:37:27.060 ⇒ 00:37:28.900 Uttam Kumaran: so that’s why I want us to pick.
177 00:37:29.180 ⇒ 00:37:32.230 Uttam Kumaran: It’s it’s it’s gonna be tough. I want us to think about like
178 00:37:32.540 ⇒ 00:37:43.909 Uttam Kumaran: some large initiatives and small initiatives at the same time. Right? Because we still have our like weekly illustrations. We need to do. We still may have like SEO. But then I want to take on one of these large blocks
179 00:37:44.210 ⇒ 00:37:47.500 Uttam Kumaran: right? And that’s where I want, like, I think you’re
180 00:37:47.690 ⇒ 00:37:57.459 Uttam Kumaran: crushing at leading the team. I think everybody looks to you, basically for direction on the ux and Ui side and and overall brand and design
181 00:37:57.965 ⇒ 00:38:04.129 Uttam Kumaran: which is amazing, because I don’t have nearly the eye that you have. And I actually
182 00:38:04.360 ⇒ 00:38:07.459 Uttam Kumaran: want, actually, I think you’re the perfect
183 00:38:07.650 ⇒ 00:38:12.320 Uttam Kumaran: like emulation of people that come in and are like.
184 00:38:12.560 ⇒ 00:38:14.769 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, there’s a lot of stuff going on.
185 00:38:14.790 ⇒ 00:38:30.109 Uttam Kumaran: Let me go ahead and just like start giving instruction. And I know we didn’t have a formal conversation about that, but for me like seeing that made my entire year like I was so happy when I see your message in the morning which is like this, this, this Haleem do, this, Ryan. Do this, I’m like.
186 00:38:30.140 ⇒ 00:38:37.750 Uttam Kumaran: thank God, someone else is doing this, because otherwise I have to do that right. But also I don’t think about it like, Oh, I have to do this. I’m like.
187 00:38:37.780 ⇒ 00:38:42.306 Uttam Kumaran: I’m happy that someone cares even in this area as much as I do.
188 00:38:42.970 ⇒ 00:38:47.270 Uttam Kumaran: You know. And so one I wanna thank you for that like that’s
189 00:38:47.380 ⇒ 00:38:50.540 Uttam Kumaran: super super important. And I
190 00:38:50.720 ⇒ 00:38:54.089 Uttam Kumaran: I’m I see that every single day. So thank you for like
191 00:38:54.170 ⇒ 00:39:01.949 Uttam Kumaran: being organized there, I think the next thing that I wanna work with you on is, how do we take on some of these bigger initiatives.
192 00:39:02.020 ⇒ 00:39:03.790 Uttam Kumaran: get organized around them.
193 00:39:04.217 ⇒ 00:39:06.542 Uttam Kumaran: And then actually execute them right?
194 00:39:07.330 ⇒ 00:39:14.239 Uttam Kumaran: I still think we haven’t done a lot to. I think we move pretty fast, like again. I’ve worked with a lot of design teams. I think
195 00:39:14.480 ⇒ 00:39:18.640 Uttam Kumaran: I think you move extremely fast, and we’re building them pretty fast.
196 00:39:19.031 ⇒ 00:39:21.070 Uttam Kumaran: But some of these bigger items are.
197 00:39:21.380 ⇒ 00:39:22.700 Uttam Kumaran: We’ll take some time
198 00:39:22.820 ⇒ 00:39:25.140 Uttam Kumaran: to design, and I want us to.
199 00:39:25.360 ⇒ 00:39:37.759 Uttam Kumaran: I want us to take a little bit of care on how we’re gonna do it. At the same time, there’s gonna be parts that we can build on the fly. There’s gonna be parts that are gonna require maybe help from AI team. So I want to think about as a team, how do we do that?
200 00:39:39.500 ⇒ 00:39:45.699 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, those are. That’s kind of like my thoughts, for you know the rest of this year, and going into next year.
201 00:39:47.470 ⇒ 00:39:50.309 Anne: Yep, yep, so, yeah, thank you so much. But
202 00:39:50.810 ⇒ 00:39:59.380 Anne: oh, yeah, yeah. So earlier, I changed some stuff in notion. So I made one
203 00:39:59.980 ⇒ 00:40:00.860 Anne: fast
204 00:40:01.100 ⇒ 00:40:05.360 Anne: for Rainforge website. And then I’ve added there the
205 00:40:05.370 ⇒ 00:40:09.090 Anne: subtask, like the Glossary case, studies page because
206 00:40:09.270 ⇒ 00:40:11.849 Anne: the 1st one, I think it’s
207 00:40:12.230 ⇒ 00:40:24.069 Anne: all in the one column, so I wanted to see. I want to be organized in terms of pages in motion. So I move things around. And then.
208 00:40:24.080 ⇒ 00:40:26.479 Anne: added Heleem, with that.
209 00:40:27.580 ⇒ 00:40:28.250 Anne: yep.
210 00:40:30.700 ⇒ 00:40:33.650 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Yeah. And then I also added subtasks.
211 00:40:33.870 ⇒ 00:40:34.500 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, yeah.
212 00:40:34.500 ⇒ 00:40:34.870 Anne: This.
213 00:40:34.870 ⇒ 00:40:39.939 Uttam Kumaran: Which we can. We can break out. But I kind of wanted to just align it to these big milestones
214 00:40:40.170 ⇒ 00:40:47.050 Uttam Kumaran: right like explaining clearly what we do is gonna require probably some homepage updates, probably the Demos
215 00:40:47.280 ⇒ 00:40:50.850 Uttam Kumaran: right? And so I want to kind of bundle that into that milestone
216 00:40:51.140 ⇒ 00:40:52.320 Uttam Kumaran: that way. We should.
217 00:40:52.690 ⇒ 00:40:57.620 Uttam Kumaran: What would cause. The biggest thing I want to do is go from planning. Where are we right now? We plan almost
218 00:40:57.750 ⇒ 00:41:06.500 Uttam Kumaran: week to week. Right? We should move to planning like month to month that way. We’re not having a conversation every week about what we’re working on next.
219 00:41:07.050 ⇒ 00:41:10.729 Uttam Kumaran: What that means is we need to have a good backlog of ideas.
220 00:41:11.150 ⇒ 00:41:14.359 Uttam Kumaran: and then we also need to have enough things in flight.
221 00:41:14.460 ⇒ 00:41:20.430 Uttam Kumaran: right? Because if we don’t know what we’re doing next week. Then every week we have to have this conversation about like, what’s next?
222 00:41:20.450 ⇒ 00:41:22.749 Uttam Kumaran: What do we want to work on next things like that?
223 00:41:24.410 ⇒ 00:41:26.060 Uttam Kumaran: so that’s why I’m hoping that
224 00:41:26.515 ⇒ 00:41:28.239 Uttam Kumaran: we could spend some time
225 00:41:28.320 ⇒ 00:41:33.155 Uttam Kumaran: today in the team meeting, talking about like
226 00:41:34.160 ⇒ 00:41:35.290 Uttam Kumaran: what’s next?
227 00:41:35.922 ⇒ 00:41:40.109 Uttam Kumaran: And how? What? And which of these big blocks we want to take?
228 00:41:41.430 ⇒ 00:41:44.610 Uttam Kumaran: And then also understanding, okay, what’s currently in flight.
229 00:41:44.650 ⇒ 00:41:48.120 Uttam Kumaran: And when is it getting closed out and then try to set some dates
230 00:41:48.140 ⇒ 00:41:59.000 Uttam Kumaran: and set the dates realistically right. Because again, we’re only a couple of people, and also it’s holiday season. So everybody’s going to be taking break. And so I want us to set some realistic dates.
231 00:42:00.520 ⇒ 00:42:16.489 Uttam Kumaran: But then, again, like, I think, we now have a I think, a really great system around content around the actual design and then around the web execution. So I think we should continue to invest more in planning out further, because the more we plan out further.
232 00:42:17.190 ⇒ 00:42:26.160 Uttam Kumaran: the less like hectic stuff there is. Instead, we, we can have meetings about the problems. We don’t have meetings about like planning right?
233 00:42:26.915 ⇒ 00:42:27.390 Uttam Kumaran: Yep.
234 00:42:27.640 ⇒ 00:42:42.940 Uttam Kumaran: And that way you don’t even have to go to meetings which I know hopefully you would love. So then it’s just like it’s it’s just like what’s next. Let’s work on it, you know. And then also, I want to think about deeper search, like projects, right? Like I want, I think, where I think
235 00:42:43.040 ⇒ 00:42:53.689 Uttam Kumaran: here’s where we’re at overall, I think. One. What? When you join, what what did I mention? I mentioned our goal was to be in line or better, with every consulting website. I think we’re there.
236 00:42:53.960 ⇒ 00:43:16.710 Uttam Kumaran: And you know how I know where there’s people every day tell me that our website looks really, really good. And we are a boring, consulting company like we’re not. We’re not like a art gallery or not like a media agency. Right? So that’s I love that. The second thing is like, how do we? What are innovative ideas that we can research and spend a lot of time on? For example.
237 00:43:16.750 ⇒ 00:43:21.660 Uttam Kumaran: putting a chat bot on the site. I don’t want it to be like we just put something in the corner.
238 00:43:21.760 ⇒ 00:43:23.490 Uttam Kumaran: That’s what everybody does.
239 00:43:23.520 ⇒ 00:43:31.590 Uttam Kumaran: So can we spend? Can I? Can I have you give you like at least a week to go look at what everybody’s doing in chat bot
240 00:43:32.150 ⇒ 00:43:35.890 Uttam Kumaran: ux, find like, what’s actually
241 00:43:36.380 ⇒ 00:43:43.119 Uttam Kumaran: the cutting edge thing, and then do that. If I was to be like if I was just going to say, Hey, I want to put Chatbot on the site tomorrow.
242 00:43:43.190 ⇒ 00:43:52.329 Uttam Kumaran: You’re just gonna do the 1st thing that comes to your mind. But I want. That’s the reason why I want to plan further out is, so we have space to think about some of these ideas.
243 00:43:53.630 ⇒ 00:43:57.450 Uttam Kumaran: right? And and there’s gonna be. And this is where also, like, I’m not gonna have.
244 00:43:57.910 ⇒ 00:44:03.679 Uttam Kumaran: I look to other sites for inspiration. But sometimes I want us to think more creatively and out of the box.
245 00:44:03.790 ⇒ 00:44:13.738 Uttam Kumaran: And this is where, hopefully, as a designer, I want you to also be able to say, like cool, I’m not just doing like landing pages anymore, like, we’re doing some really innovative stuff on the design side.
246 00:44:14.522 ⇒ 00:44:22.850 Uttam Kumaran: And of course, like the goal with the site is to explain people what we do and hopefully drive conversion. But I do think there’s a really great art here that we can
247 00:44:22.940 ⇒ 00:44:24.419 Uttam Kumaran: spend time on, and
248 00:44:24.840 ⇒ 00:44:27.960 Uttam Kumaran: especially in during the break where we have more free time, and
249 00:44:28.370 ⇒ 00:44:31.830 Uttam Kumaran: a lot of what happens is like for me is
250 00:44:32.370 ⇒ 00:44:33.620 Uttam Kumaran: when we’re
251 00:44:34.009 ⇒ 00:44:40.370 Uttam Kumaran: when you’re when you’re not doing work like your brain is working on on ideas, right? And so I want us to
252 00:44:40.510 ⇒ 00:44:43.970 Uttam Kumaran: think about some of these concepts and then over break just like.
253 00:44:44.790 ⇒ 00:44:51.769 Uttam Kumaran: just have have some ideas going about in interesting things we can do? And how do we push the envelope like? How do we go from
254 00:44:51.810 ⇒ 00:44:53.890 Uttam Kumaran: better than most sites
255 00:44:54.150 ⇒ 00:44:56.820 Uttam Kumaran: to the best sites? Right.
256 00:44:57.260 ⇒ 00:44:58.020 Anne: Yeah, yeah.
257 00:44:58.020 ⇒ 00:44:59.830 Uttam Kumaran: And what’s the path there?
258 00:45:01.050 ⇒ 00:45:09.459 Uttam Kumaran: And so that’s what’s on my mind, like, I think. And again, nothing is lost to me. How fast we’ve done this. This is incredible, but it’s also like.
259 00:45:09.860 ⇒ 00:45:12.590 Uttam Kumaran: I want us to keep going like, how do we push the limit?
260 00:45:13.067 ⇒ 00:45:15.359 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m very, very excited for that.
261 00:45:16.580 ⇒ 00:45:18.030 Anne: Oh, yeah, yeah. So
262 00:45:18.070 ⇒ 00:45:26.980 Anne: yeah, just want to clear about the the deadlines I made. I added there for check in, because sometimes I forget
263 00:45:27.190 ⇒ 00:45:32.439 Anne: things if, or to check in with Helium if this page is already done. So.
264 00:45:32.860 ⇒ 00:45:38.011 Anne: Yep, we just added deadlines there, but I’m not sure if hareem is
265 00:45:38.890 ⇒ 00:45:40.030 Anne: following it.
266 00:45:40.030 ⇒ 00:45:41.989 Uttam Kumaran: Where did you? Is it in the board.
267 00:45:42.200 ⇒ 00:45:44.370 Anne: Yep, yep, it’s in June.
268 00:45:47.970 ⇒ 00:45:55.049 Anne: cause when I chat, Halim is like, sorry I will make it. No, it’s okay. I just said, I just added the due date
269 00:45:55.130 ⇒ 00:45:59.890 Anne: to check in with you if it’s already in progress.
270 00:45:59.890 ⇒ 00:46:03.769 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but I don’t see. I don’t see cause I’m in the in progress tasks.
271 00:46:04.920 ⇒ 00:46:06.449 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t see any.
272 00:46:12.560 ⇒ 00:46:18.689 Anne: It’s in final review and web flow building status.
273 00:46:20.790 ⇒ 00:46:22.429 Anne: I’m in old Basque.
274 00:46:25.650 ⇒ 00:46:27.289 Uttam Kumaran: You’re in all tasks.
275 00:46:31.490 ⇒ 00:46:34.079 Uttam Kumaran: but I don’t see anything in the do column.
276 00:46:36.170 ⇒ 00:46:37.310 Anne: Not really.
277 00:46:41.610 ⇒ 00:46:44.199 Anne: I just added, like 3.
278 00:46:45.500 ⇒ 00:46:46.810 Uttam Kumaran: Like here, this is like.
279 00:46:46.810 ⇒ 00:46:47.590 Anne: To you.
280 00:46:47.590 ⇒ 00:46:48.919 Uttam Kumaran: Like this right?
281 00:47:03.540 ⇒ 00:47:05.373 Anne: As you can see that
282 00:47:06.150 ⇒ 00:47:09.420 Anne: task board. I’m just here in management task.
283 00:47:11.280 ⇒ 00:47:12.470 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, really.
284 00:47:13.110 ⇒ 00:47:13.900 Anne: Yeah, yeah.
285 00:47:13.900 ⇒ 00:47:14.750 Uttam Kumaran: What?
286 00:47:15.700 ⇒ 00:47:20.210 Anne: So I’m all referring it to the management task. Not in that task
287 00:47:24.610 ⇒ 00:47:28.560 Anne: air in Rainforge website.
288 00:47:34.210 ⇒ 00:47:34.970 Uttam Kumaran: On the
289 00:47:35.510 ⇒ 00:47:36.470 Uttam Kumaran: Project.
290 00:47:47.020 ⇒ 00:47:50.020 Anne: Oh, no! This is 1st one, the 1st row.
291 00:47:55.970 ⇒ 00:47:56.999 Uttam Kumaran: But these ones
292 00:48:01.230 ⇒ 00:48:03.999 Uttam Kumaran: wait. You still can’t see this brain forged. AI.
293 00:48:04.670 ⇒ 00:48:05.500 Anne: No.
294 00:48:06.280 ⇒ 00:48:08.030 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, my God, what
295 00:48:10.870 ⇒ 00:48:13.049 Uttam Kumaran: wait I gave you! I,
296 00:48:13.770 ⇒ 00:48:15.750 Uttam Kumaran: it says, can edit here.
297 00:48:17.180 ⇒ 00:48:21.970 Anne: Maybe, even if I add a status
298 00:48:27.570 ⇒ 00:48:31.430 Anne: and progress, I still don’t see.
299 00:48:37.330 ⇒ 00:48:39.319 Uttam Kumaran: What is going on
300 00:48:39.730 ⇒ 00:48:43.450 Uttam Kumaran: so you can. So what can you see on
301 00:48:44.230 ⇒ 00:48:45.300 Uttam Kumaran: brain
302 00:48:45.380 ⇒ 00:48:47.359 Uttam Kumaran: forge.ai.
303 00:48:52.326 ⇒ 00:48:54.109 Anne: Just a project task
304 00:48:54.150 ⇒ 00:48:59.159 Anne: and there’s no task name. Maybe I’ll just share my screen.
305 00:49:00.450 ⇒ 00:49:05.759 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, share your screen. And like, let me try to fix this right now, because I don’t know what is even going on.
306 00:49:24.500 ⇒ 00:49:26.599 Anne: Oh, can you see it now? This one.
307 00:49:26.600 ⇒ 00:49:27.350 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
308 00:49:27.470 ⇒ 00:49:28.070 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
309 00:49:28.070 ⇒ 00:49:28.440 Anne: Oh!
310 00:49:28.440 ⇒ 00:49:28.890 Uttam Kumaran: So.
311 00:49:28.890 ⇒ 00:49:30.040 Anne: That’s all that I think.
312 00:49:31.310 ⇒ 00:49:34.250 Uttam Kumaran: And do you have a filter? Is there a filter there.
313 00:49:37.010 ⇒ 00:49:38.010 Anne: this one.
314 00:49:39.190 ⇒ 00:49:43.739 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. But then, if you go to management tasks, what do you see.
315 00:49:51.990 ⇒ 00:49:53.620 Anne: There’s no task.
316 00:49:56.490 ⇒ 00:49:59.159 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, give me one second. Let me see.
317 00:50:11.170 ⇒ 00:50:14.900 Uttam Kumaran: Are you logged in with your brain for Gmail?
318 00:50:15.430 ⇒ 00:50:16.180 Anne: Yep. Yep.
319 00:50:29.000 ⇒ 00:50:30.540 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Can you refresh.
320 00:50:35.440 ⇒ 00:50:37.220 Anne: Oh, yeah, I can see it now.
321 00:50:38.870 ⇒ 00:50:39.930 Uttam Kumaran: You can see the tasks.
322 00:50:40.130 ⇒ 00:50:40.939 Anne: Yeah, yeah.
323 00:50:43.130 ⇒ 00:50:44.940 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. I figured it out.
324 00:50:46.160 ⇒ 00:50:47.030 Uttam Kumaran: Sorry.
325 00:50:51.583 ⇒ 00:50:52.650 Anne: Let’s see.
326 00:51:07.260 ⇒ 00:51:11.079 Uttam Kumaran: So in Brain Forge AI, that’s where I look.
327 00:51:11.700 ⇒ 00:51:13.040 Anne: Hmm, okay.
328 00:51:16.860 ⇒ 00:51:17.550 Uttam Kumaran: Sorry, hopefully.
329 00:51:17.550 ⇒ 00:51:17.930 Anne: This is a.
330 00:51:17.930 ⇒ 00:51:21.730 Uttam Kumaran: Lot easier, and that database is filtered for the project.
331 00:51:22.580 ⇒ 00:51:23.700 Anne: Okay.
332 00:51:24.030 ⇒ 00:51:26.780 Anne: what they can see. Now, the
333 00:51:26.980 ⇒ 00:51:28.520 Anne: ask, a need
334 00:51:28.680 ⇒ 00:51:30.710 Anne: earlier in management.
335 00:51:30.710 ⇒ 00:51:32.443 Uttam Kumaran: So the so the due.
336 00:51:34.480 ⇒ 00:51:37.899 Uttam Kumaran: So the do. Do you see the due date on project tasks?
337 00:51:40.060 ⇒ 00:51:40.800 Anne: Yep. Yep.
338 00:51:41.320 ⇒ 00:51:43.299 Uttam Kumaran: But so none of them have a due date right now.
339 00:51:44.380 ⇒ 00:51:48.820 Anne: Oh, yeah, cause I’m in management task. I added it. There.
340 00:51:50.450 ⇒ 00:51:50.890 Uttam Kumaran: But it’s.
341 00:51:50.890 ⇒ 00:51:51.260 Anne: It’s.
342 00:51:51.260 ⇒ 00:51:55.760 Uttam Kumaran: It should flow through, because it’s the same thing. It’s basically like a view of management tasks.
343 00:51:58.350 ⇒ 00:51:59.540 Anne: Yeah, but
344 00:52:00.420 ⇒ 00:52:04.840 Anne: I’m not sure why it’s not showing up there. Or maybe I didn’t bug.
345 00:52:05.950 ⇒ 00:52:08.429 Anne: I’ll get us website.
346 00:52:10.705 ⇒ 00:52:11.420 Anne: Wait.
347 00:52:12.210 ⇒ 00:52:12.760 Uttam Kumaran: Wait, share.
348 00:52:12.760 ⇒ 00:52:13.200 Anne: Yeah.
349 00:52:13.200 ⇒ 00:52:14.960 Uttam Kumaran: Share your screen. I’ll show you.
350 00:52:20.590 ⇒ 00:52:21.300 Anne: Sorry
351 00:52:21.620 ⇒ 00:52:23.249 Anne: I can see it now, sir.
352 00:52:23.720 ⇒ 00:52:24.190 Uttam Kumaran: I said, if.
353 00:52:24.190 ⇒ 00:52:24.623 Anne: I think
354 00:52:24.840 ⇒ 00:52:26.060 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, you can see the date.
355 00:52:35.230 ⇒ 00:52:38.480 Anne: Hmm, okay, I think I didn’t tag the
356 00:52:38.770 ⇒ 00:52:41.040 Anne: I didn’t tag the task as being
357 00:52:41.370 ⇒ 00:52:43.120 Anne: forge that AI
358 00:52:43.250 ⇒ 00:52:44.090 Anne: in project.
359 00:52:44.090 ⇒ 00:52:44.930 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
360 00:52:45.220 ⇒ 00:52:46.750 Anne: I’ll just plug it here.
361 00:52:47.480 ⇒ 00:52:49.320 Anne: so it will appear.
362 00:52:49.320 ⇒ 00:52:50.620 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, if you tag all them.
363 00:52:50.620 ⇒ 00:52:51.159 Anne: His brain, for.
364 00:52:51.160 ⇒ 00:52:52.489 Uttam Kumaran: AI! They’ll appear.
365 00:52:53.110 ⇒ 00:52:55.079 Anne: Okay, okay, got it.
366 00:52:55.980 ⇒ 00:53:05.679 Uttam Kumaran: And then I would I would use the brain forge. I would create the tasks in the brain. Forge AI page because it’ll automatically assign it to that project.
367 00:53:07.320 ⇒ 00:53:08.410 Anne: Hmm, okay. Okay.
368 00:53:08.410 ⇒ 00:53:12.139 Uttam Kumaran: Cause management tasks we’re gonna turn into like all company tasks.
369 00:53:12.410 ⇒ 00:53:14.579 Uttam Kumaran: gonna have everything there. It’s gonna be like
370 00:53:14.990 ⇒ 00:53:17.370 Uttam Kumaran: it’ll be a little bit tough to manage.
371 00:53:18.100 ⇒ 00:53:19.090 Anne: Yeah.
372 00:53:20.480 ⇒ 00:53:23.330 Anne: yeah, cause I didn’t. Link the
373 00:53:23.910 ⇒ 00:53:26.750 Anne: the task in the project.
374 00:53:27.460 ⇒ 00:53:28.620 Anne: So
375 00:53:29.230 ⇒ 00:53:30.399 Anne: now I know.
376 00:53:38.710 ⇒ 00:53:43.499 Anne: yeah. So I just updated it in Rainforge AI
377 00:53:44.880 ⇒ 00:53:47.569 Anne: under Rainforge website.
378 00:53:54.260 ⇒ 00:53:56.660 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah. Mine’s just loading. Give me once.
379 00:53:57.720 ⇒ 00:53:58.760 Uttam Kumaran: Second.
380 00:54:33.090 ⇒ 00:54:33.820 Uttam Kumaran: okay.
381 00:54:57.280 ⇒ 00:55:00.699 Uttam Kumaran: anything else. We wanna chat about.
382 00:55:01.810 ⇒ 00:55:02.370 Anne: Oh.
383 00:55:03.860 ⇒ 00:55:08.329 Anne: I think that’s oh, yeah. So maybe later, in design meeting.
384 00:55:09.590 ⇒ 00:55:14.310 Anne: I’ll just have to update this one again. Also in the
385 00:55:14.650 ⇒ 00:55:19.569 Anne: Reinforge website task. I’ve added also there some comments
386 00:55:19.880 ⇒ 00:55:21.550 Anne: regarding the update.
387 00:55:24.950 ⇒ 00:55:25.840 Uttam Kumaran: Which update.
388 00:55:27.108 ⇒ 00:55:29.249 Anne: For example, in case studies.
389 00:55:32.950 ⇒ 00:55:34.979 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
390 00:55:41.090 ⇒ 00:55:42.510 Anne: Yeah, I think that’s all.
391 00:55:43.280 ⇒ 00:55:43.860 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
392 00:55:45.470 ⇒ 00:55:50.150 Uttam Kumaran: okay, so let’s chat and let’s chat today. We can. We can review the the notion
393 00:55:51.090 ⇒ 00:55:56.520 Uttam Kumaran: in with everybody. And then I know there’s a couple of things in flight right now that we want to get
394 00:55:57.244 ⇒ 00:55:59.800 Uttam Kumaran: finalized so we could talk about that with everybody.
395 00:56:00.920 ⇒ 00:56:01.809 Anne: Yep, yep.
396 00:56:01.950 ⇒ 00:56:03.949 Anne: thank you. Okay.
397 00:56:04.250 ⇒ 00:56:06.460 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, thanks. Ann. Talk to you soon.
398 00:56:06.460 ⇒ 00:56:07.789 Anne: Thank you. Bye.
399 00:56:08.360 ⇒ 00:56:09.050 Anne: bye.