Meeting Title: Zoom-Meeting Date: 2024-11-08 Meeting participants: Unknown


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00:00:12.000 00:00:42.000 No, no.

00:01:46.000 00:01:50.000 Hello, hello.

00:01:50.000 00:01:52.000 My computer is just like…

00:01:52.000 00:01:59.000 dying. I think I’m going to go get the Mac Mini today. M4.

00:01:59.000 00:02:01.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:02:01.000 00:02:02.000 Thank you for.

00:02:02.000 00:02:04.000 What did you decide on laptop?

00:02:04.000 00:02:11.000 Dude, I mean, maybe in like a month or I can get you the M4, the new MacBook Pro.

00:02:11.000 00:02:16.000 like if you want a Mac mini that’s like $600, I’m down for that.

00:02:16.000 00:02:17.000 I think we should save for now.

00:02:17.000 00:02:19.000 What do you think?

00:02:19.000 00:02:20.000 I just got the car. We saved for now.

00:02:20.000 00:02:23.000 Okay.

00:02:23.000 00:02:29.000 Okay, okay, okay, okay. I’ll get you the laptop. I promise I’ll get you the laptop.

00:02:29.000 00:02:30.000 Yeah, because yeah

00:02:30.000 00:02:33.000 At some point too.

00:02:33.000 00:02:42.000 The only reason I actually really needed like a powerful laptop, because initially I was planning to like go to like because we have a rest house in like one of the highest points in

00:02:42.000 00:02:44.000 The Philippines biased cities.

00:02:44.000 00:02:51.000 And my laptop won’t make it like, you know, I can’t do HPI stuff there any anything hard there

00:02:51.000 00:02:52.000 Why?

00:02:52.000 00:02:55.000 Because it’s eight gigabytes of RAM.

00:02:55.000 00:03:00.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, no, I want to get, I’m just going to get you the

00:03:00.000 00:03:08.000 I mean, probably in December. I mean, maybe it’s a good Christmas gift, but probably December or January, I’ll get you the M4 MacBook Pro.

00:03:08.000 00:03:09.000 if yeah if we close the hpi

00:03:09.000 00:03:15.000 I just, but do you care about having a laptop?

00:03:15.000 00:03:16.000 Oh, okay.

00:03:16.000 00:03:20.000 Yeah, because I like working outside like the only reason I can’t work outside is because, you know.

00:03:20.000 00:03:23.000 this it’s too weak.

00:03:23.000 00:03:30.000 You should also get a really good power bank. I have like a really good power bank.

00:03:30.000 00:03:32.000 Oh, yeah, but like in the Philippines it’s

00:03:32.000 00:03:36.000 like you know every coffee shop has like chargers

00:03:36.000 00:03:37.000 So it’s, yeah.

00:03:37.000 00:03:38.000 Oh, okay, okay.

00:03:38.000 00:03:45.000 And power banks are like huge that’s why like the price difference between the pro and the Air that I sent you was like not really high

00:03:45.000 00:03:46.000 But the thing is, I don’t want to break my back.

00:03:46.000 00:03:51.000 No, you shouldn’t get the air. No, no, no. Don’t get the air because…

00:03:51.000 00:03:53.000 I mean, get the pro, but

00:03:53.000 00:03:56.000 It’s going to be like probably 1500 or 2K.

00:03:56.000 00:03:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:57.000 00:04:02.000 But also like you can’t because I want to buy from Apple, like you can’t buy from Apple near you.

00:04:02.000 00:04:11.000 Oh, I mean, it’d be good. We’ll just have to ship it to me. I remember my sister did it. It took like three weeks or something.

00:04:11.000 00:04:12.000 So it’s fine either way.

00:04:12.000 00:04:15.000 Because if I buy an Apple, I can put it on a payment plan.

00:04:15.000 00:04:18.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

00:04:18.000 00:04:19.000 that you don’t have Apple Store then?

00:04:19.000 00:04:24.000 Okay. No, no, only Apple can deliver to us but

00:04:24.000 00:04:26.000 there’s a lot of the story here.

00:04:26.000 00:04:28.000 So, oh, I can put the shipping address as you.

00:04:28.000 00:04:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:32.000 00:04:33.000 Will Nico be joining us?

00:04:33.000 00:04:35.000 Why don’t I try that? Which country is the nearest Apple store?

00:04:35.000 00:04:38.000 Singapore.

00:04:38.000 00:04:39.000 Ah, fuck. It’s gonna be expensive.

00:04:39.000 00:04:41.000 Yeah.

00:04:41.000 00:04:46.000 By the way, have you had the chance to like

00:04:46.000 00:04:47.000 test out the HPI.

00:04:47.000 00:04:51.000 No, that’s what I want to go through now. I want to test out on my machine.

00:04:51.000 00:04:57.000 Okay.

00:04:57.000 00:04:59.000 So let me um

00:04:59.000 00:05:02.000 my cats are killing each other.

00:05:02.000 00:05:03.000 No worries.

00:05:03.000 00:05:08.000 No, no, no. Here, here.

00:05:08.000 00:05:12.000 No fighting.

00:05:12.000 00:05:19.000 Yep.

00:05:19.000 00:05:27.000 Because yesterday, during our meeting with Chang, when he mentioned that thing around

00:05:27.000 00:05:30.000 Remember that thing where he mentioned there’s like a list of clients

00:05:30.000 00:05:33.000 And then AI could somehow analyze the

00:05:33.000 00:05:35.000 but the sorry the patient details

00:05:35.000 00:05:41.000 And then recommend stuff that could be done for this patient

00:05:41.000 00:05:42.000 Yeah.

00:05:42.000 00:05:45.000 I was thinking that’s very similar to HPI, no?

00:05:45.000 00:05:52.000 It’s all very similar. The biggest thing is just getting them to give us a shot.

00:05:52.000 00:05:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:53.000 00:05:56.000 You know, but…

00:05:56.000 00:05:57.000 We’ll get there.

00:05:57.000 00:06:01.000 we can probably even like spin something up

00:06:01.000 00:06:02.000 So we already have like the infrastructure

00:06:02.000 00:06:07.000 That’s also the thing is like when we talked about doing the demos and the design, what we can do is probably come up with these

00:06:07.000 00:06:10.000 put it out as a fake because we can generate fake data

00:06:10.000 00:06:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:11.000 00:06:20.000 pretty easily like ChatGPT and stuff, I can say, give me a CSV of like a shitload of fake data, have Chang verify that this is what the data shape would be

00:06:20.000 00:06:25.000 And then we use it for the app. But again, that just all that shit takes time like

00:06:25.000 00:06:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:26.000 00:06:27.000 That’s the biggest thing is like

00:06:27.000 00:06:33.000 All of that stuff is non-revenue. It’s not immediately revenue generating activities.

00:06:33.000 00:06:36.000 So for me, I’m like, okay, I want to work on stuff that

00:06:36.000 00:06:39.000 does and doesn’t, but the ratio needs to be high.

00:06:39.000 00:06:40.000 Yeah.

00:06:40.000 00:06:53.000 At the moment, right? Like I’m down to spend 20% of our time if

00:06:53.000 00:06:54.000 Yeah.

00:06:54.000 00:06:59.000 that’s going to help us go get revenue, right? For example, the stuff Casey’s working on, although it’s internally, that helps Erickson be better, Ryan get better, Anne get better. Everyone improves because

00:06:59.000 00:07:00.000 Yes.

00:07:00.000 00:07:03.000 They’re previously just asking me these questions. So that’s why I’m like, ask the agent, you know, and then build let’s build the agent in Slack.

00:07:03.000 00:07:08.000 Because also I kind of want to have like 10 agents doing all sorts of stuff and have that all in Slack.

00:07:08.000 00:07:09.000 Yeah.

00:07:09.000 00:07:10.000 Because I don’t want people aren’t going to go to relevance.

00:07:10.000 00:07:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:07:12.000 00:07:15.000 you know like me and you will go to relevance. They’re just not it’s and it’s not a laziness thing it’s just like

00:07:15.000 00:07:17.000 It’s a lot to ask.

00:07:17.000 00:07:21.000 Yeah. Like it’s not part of their everyday routine.

00:07:21.000 00:07:28.000 It’s not part of their routine. And I want Slack, like the things that are required are slack

00:07:28.000 00:07:29.000 And Notion and Zoom.

00:07:29.000 00:07:30.000 Yeah.

00:07:30.000 00:07:33.000 Those are our main, like, that’s our main operating system here.

00:07:33.000 00:07:37.000 So that’s where we need to get all the AI stuff

00:07:37.000 00:07:48.000 needs to be integrated there. That’s why I don’t like bringing because it’s a cop out to bring in the external tools. It’s like just we go one, like a little bit step forward

00:07:48.000 00:07:55.000 you know we’ll be fine. So, okay, I’m just cloning the repo and then let me um

00:07:55.000 00:07:59.000 For sure.

00:07:59.000 00:08:03.000 I don’t think I removed the ENV, so that should be all good.

00:08:03.000 00:08:07.000 I just committed it.

00:08:07.000 00:08:11.000 Okay.

00:08:11.000 00:08:13.000 Hey guys, sorry.

00:08:13.000 00:08:19.000 Just seeing the invite.

00:08:19.000 00:08:26.000 And then as for the voice, yeah, I think that’s a pretty big project.

00:08:26.000 00:08:27.000 Yeah.

00:08:27.000 00:08:29.000 Have you had the chance, Nico, to ask around about the pricing or not yet?

00:08:29.000 00:08:31.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:08:31.000 00:08:39.000 I know a couple of friends that work with brazil brazilian companies. I send them a message, but they didn’t answer yet.

00:08:39.000 00:08:48.000 I’ll ping them again. I don’t know how much a rate could be, but if they don’t answer, I’m going to check again with

00:08:48.000 00:08:54.000 some Argentinian friends because maybe it’s kind of similar, but Brazilian is a little bit higher the rates that we can

00:08:54.000 00:09:00.000 go with. So yeah, I’ll try to gather some info about that and send you

00:09:00.000 00:09:07.000 Because I don’t have friends working in AI or those related stuff uh

00:09:07.000 00:09:13.000 here or in Brazil, they own companies and different things, but they don’t work with data or ai so

00:09:13.000 00:09:14.000 It’s kind of different but i’m i

00:09:14.000 00:09:16.000 But even just like thinking about like

00:09:16.000 00:09:17.000 Consulting, yeah.

00:09:17.000 00:09:20.000 Yeah, I mean, they haven’t even understanding what the salary is because it’s like

00:09:20.000 00:09:26.000 Basically, they’re like, we have 20 people making phone calls. They make 500 phone calls a day.

00:09:26.000 00:09:30.000 we probably want to replace this system. We probably want to replace half of those phone calls

00:09:30.000 00:09:35.000 And they probably want to make an additional 250 phone calls a day or so.

00:09:35.000 00:09:37.000 And they want our system to do that.

00:09:37.000 00:09:44.000 So I don’t like, I almost like

00:09:44.000 00:09:45.000 Yeah.

00:09:45.000 00:09:46.000 Yeah.

00:09:46.000 00:09:47.000 they’re like put a price on that. I want to start with what’s the salary of those people and then how, like, maybe we start there, which is

00:09:47.000 00:09:54.000 We start with the salary of those people, understand, okay, if they’re spending maybe two minutes per phone call, what is that cost?

00:09:54.000 00:10:01.000 If we were to take that on and multiply it by the amount of phone calls, multiply that by a month.

00:10:01.000 00:10:02.000 Yeah.

00:10:02.000 00:10:03.000 then we can kind of get a sense of, okay, it’s going to let’s

00:10:03.000 00:10:09.000 But then also it’s like, this is the thing is they have an ERP system. They have some stuff that it’s hard to, I don’t know yet.

00:10:09.000 00:10:14.000 what the effort is. So I want to structure it as a like

00:10:14.000 00:10:18.000 some sort of like monthly fee until

00:10:18.000 00:10:21.000 it works. And then we do a price per

00:10:21.000 00:10:23.000 call that’s cheaper than

00:10:23.000 00:10:26.000 hiring.

00:10:26.000 00:10:28.000 Or what we do is like

00:10:28.000 00:10:33.000 we say upfront no cost and we just charge them on the price per call

00:10:33.000 00:10:40.000 But I’m open to pricing aggressively because also, Miguel, this may open you to go get one more person to just work on this.

00:10:40.000 00:10:41.000 yeah but yeah

00:10:41.000 00:10:47.000 So if at minimum we can like, honestly, even if we don’t make money on this one, I’m okay

00:10:47.000 00:10:51.000 But I do want to find some way, I don’t know what they’re, I don’t even know

00:10:51.000 00:10:53.000 what they’re open to you know they’re open

00:10:53.000 00:11:00.000 Because I think from the spec I read, they also like basically want some sort of dashboard

00:11:00.000 00:11:01.000 you know because they want to see like what they want

00:11:01.000 00:11:04.000 No, they want a lot. It’s going to be like a six month at least project

00:11:04.000 00:11:06.000 Yeah, it’s pretty big.

00:11:06.000 00:11:09.000 But that’s why I’m saying it’s like

00:11:09.000 00:11:14.000 I’m not going to charge 500, dude, 500 a month or 500 in total. It’s like, we’re not going to do that also

00:11:14.000 00:11:15.000 Yeah.

00:11:15.000 00:11:16.000 Yeah.

00:11:16.000 00:11:17.000 I don’t want to compete with those people because those people aren’t good.

00:11:17.000 00:11:20.000 like we bring a level of effort and like

00:11:20.000 00:11:21.000 Yeah.

00:11:21.000 00:11:23.000 a different level. And he acknowledged that he’s like look

00:11:23.000 00:11:28.000 I know some people are going to come to us with really cheap. Some people may be more expensive. He’s like.

00:11:28.000 00:11:33.000 But sometimes going with the more expensive people, there’s a reason. So I just want to get

00:11:33.000 00:11:35.000 I want to know the range.

00:11:35.000 00:11:37.000 And then I’ll be okay for the negotiation.

00:11:37.000 00:11:38.000 You know?

00:11:38.000 00:11:39.000 Yeah, yeah. Maybe we could

00:11:39.000 00:11:42.000 Like I want to kind of have a sense of like what’s the least

00:11:42.000 00:11:46.000 In order to make no money on this, what would we need to charge?

00:11:46.000 00:11:55.000 I honestly think it’s probably we at least have to charge like two or three K, dude, because if we have to pay someone full time to work on that.

00:11:55.000 00:11:58.000 It’s got to be at least what, like at least 2,000.

00:11:58.000 00:12:06.000 Yeah, also because we have to take note, right? There’s going to be a full stack developer here involved

00:12:06.000 00:12:07.000 Because they need a ui

00:12:07.000 00:12:10.000 Not for HPI, not for HPI, for the voice.

00:12:10.000 00:12:11.000 for the yeah

00:12:11.000 00:12:14.000 Yeah, for the voice, because they need something to see right

00:12:14.000 00:12:15.000 like where will their calendars go

00:12:15.000 00:12:17.000 Oh, yeah.

00:12:17.000 00:12:18.000 Like…

00:12:18.000 00:12:19.000 Yeah, you’re right.

00:12:19.000 00:12:28.000 That’s why I was thinking, yeah, maybe you’re right around the 5,000. I don’t think they’ll buy it so around. I was thinking what we could offer them is

00:12:28.000 00:12:32.000 Remember the initial pricing we had for HPI were around $20,000, 25,000?

00:12:32.000 00:12:37.000 And now we’re up to around 50 to 100 with them. But I think that’s what we could offer them and then just

00:12:37.000 00:12:39.000 ask them to pay 50% upfront.

00:12:39.000 00:12:42.000 I’m not sure how you do it.

00:12:42.000 00:12:46.000 I don’t want to charge. I’d rather charge recurring revenue

00:12:46.000 00:12:48.000 Yeah.

00:12:48.000 00:12:52.000 Because if we charge lump sum.

00:12:52.000 00:12:54.000 I think there’s too many unknowns.

00:12:54.000 00:12:58.000 Like, I don’t want to be like, it’s going to be 30K total.

00:12:58.000 00:13:01.000 I would rather say it’s going to be 3k a month.

00:13:01.000 00:13:03.000 Yeah, okay, yeah.

00:13:03.000 00:13:08.000 Do we know how like what’s the budget or what they are like looking

00:13:08.000 00:13:09.000 forward to pay now

00:13:09.000 00:13:10.000 No, no.

00:13:10.000 00:13:14.000 He didn’t give me, I mean, I asked, it’s the dance like i asked

00:13:14.000 00:13:15.000 he was like…

00:13:15.000 00:13:16.000 Yeah, they don’t want to give the first price.

00:13:16.000 00:13:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:17.000 00:13:21.000 Yeah, and it’s fine. It’s okay.

00:13:21.000 00:13:27.000 But this is what I’m saying. I think our best bet is going to be able to back from

00:13:27.000 00:13:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:28.000 00:13:29.000 How much does a, in Brazil, like how much does a person who’s doing the telephone cost?

00:13:29.000 00:13:30.000 That’s what I’m…

00:13:30.000 00:13:32.000 It’s 900 bucks.

00:13:32.000 00:13:33.000 900 bucks a month.

00:13:33.000 00:13:35.000 Yeah.

00:13:35.000 00:13:36.000 for the call center guys, are you sure?

00:13:36.000 00:13:45.000 or one goes under. I mean, it’s the average salary, so I assume that’s it

00:13:45.000 00:13:46.000 Or I can check.

00:13:46.000 00:13:47.000 That’s a lot.

00:13:47.000 00:13:49.000 If we can find that out, we can get their hourly wage

00:13:49.000 00:13:54.000 If we find that out, we get their hourly wage and then we know they’re making roughly like probably

00:13:54.000 00:13:56.000 50 calls

00:13:56.000 00:13:57.000 25 to 50 calls a day.

00:13:57.000 00:14:00.000 we can basically say, we’ll just aim for half of that.

00:14:00.000 00:14:03.000 And then figure out what that cost is.

00:14:03.000 00:14:09.000 Yeah, see if you can find anything right now or ask perplexity

00:14:09.000 00:14:14.000 See if you can put all this into perplexity and have it just calculated.

00:14:14.000 00:14:23.000 Okay, let me check.

00:14:23.000 00:14:28.000 Because I think that’s also fair. I think it’s fair. Because then if he’s like, this is too expensive, I’m going to be like, hey, we’re

00:14:28.000 00:14:38.000 we’re replacing one of your people. You have to tell us something else to use. You didn’t give us a budget, you know?

00:14:38.000 00:14:41.000 Oh, okay. Yeah.

00:14:41.000 00:14:47.000 I just sent again, I’m going to try to get some numbers and send to you guys.

00:14:47.000 00:14:50.000 Okay.

00:14:50.000 00:14:55.000 Even though, I mean, charging 3k for these kind of projects i think is

00:14:55.000 00:14:56.000 I mean, what’s it called?

00:14:56.000 00:14:59.000 It’s around 900.

00:14:59.000 00:15:00.000 Sorry, you’ve…

00:15:00.000 00:15:03.000 Yeah, that’s fine.

00:15:03.000 00:15:04.000 I mean, if this

00:15:04.000 00:15:10.000 I mean, look, I’m not going to be able to compete. This is the thing. We’re not ever going to go low in price.

00:15:10.000 00:15:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:11.000 00:15:15.000 this this is the that’s the that’s not the mentality I want to have because

00:15:15.000 00:15:17.000 There are a lot of consulting jobs

00:15:17.000 00:15:22.000 that put downward pressure on price, but what they get is shitty quality

00:15:22.000 00:15:26.000 of a product. I always want to be going up

00:15:26.000 00:15:28.000 like we need to be charging more

00:15:28.000 00:15:37.000 And the things we do need to be higher touch, like more effort, but I don’t want to be like, just because we could do it for 500, we’re going to charge 500.

00:15:37.000 00:15:38.000 Yeah.

00:15:38.000 00:15:46.000 But also I do want to balance with this is a great project. I think super straightforward. The guy is really great. I think we’ll, we’ll knock it out of the park.

00:15:46.000 00:15:49.000 So for me, I don’t care about making

00:15:49.000 00:15:55.000 profit on it. I care about can we do we have enough money to pay the people plus

00:15:55.000 00:15:57.000 Like, again, Miguel, it’s like me or you have to spend time on it

00:15:57.000 00:15:58.000 Yeah.

00:15:58.000 00:15:59.000 Yeah.

00:15:59.000 00:16:01.000 And meeting, like, I want to think about what is that and then basically say, look.

00:16:01.000 00:16:05.000 I want to tell them, hey, we looked at what an average cost per person is

00:16:05.000 00:16:09.000 you’re making 500 calls. It looks like roughly

00:16:09.000 00:16:12.000 With our system, you’re going to take over 250 of those calls

00:16:12.000 00:16:17.000 And probably an additional 250 of those calls for the net new calls you want to make.

00:16:17.000 00:16:19.000 this is what it would cost you to hire

00:16:19.000 00:16:22.000 to make all those calls. And of course, we’ll be running those in parallel

00:16:22.000 00:16:26.000 And so roughly, like here’s the price

00:16:26.000 00:16:29.000 In addition, this accounts for us

00:16:29.000 00:16:32.000 Like, you know, having to do project management and stuff

00:16:32.000 00:16:35.000 And then also tell them, I’ll tell them to be frank.

00:16:35.000 00:16:40.000 we want to do a great job for you. We’re not going to be making a lot of money. We know you have budget constraints.

00:16:40.000 00:16:41.000 I’ll go through that dance.

00:16:41.000 00:16:42.000 Yeah.

00:16:42.000 00:16:45.000 We’ll see what they say. If they’re like, no, then no, that’s it. I don’t care. Like, I can’t.

00:16:45.000 00:16:46.000 Yeah.

00:16:46.000 00:16:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:48.000 00:16:49.000 We don’t do charity.

00:16:49.000 00:16:51.000 Because if we do, this is what I’m saying. Last year, I made mistakes like this.

00:16:51.000 00:16:58.000 And it’s tough. It will really come back to bite us where we’re not making money on stuff and it’s not worth it.

00:16:58.000 00:17:05.000 The other thing is, look, it’s great if we go through that process with him and even it says no, we have a great case study at least, or at least

00:17:05.000 00:17:07.000 throw that all into like something that

00:17:07.000 00:17:11.000 Ryan can post as a blog you know so

00:17:11.000 00:17:16.000 Yeah.

00:17:16.000 00:17:18.000 Okay, cool.

00:17:18.000 00:17:19.000 Okay.

00:17:19.000 00:17:21.000 Yeah, but it seems like a nice opportunity if we can

00:17:21.000 00:17:22.000 Yeah.

00:17:22.000 00:17:24.000 we can get into a good deal there yeah

00:17:24.000 00:17:25.000 Because we also break into health care.

00:17:25.000 00:17:26.000 Yeah.

00:17:26.000 00:17:33.000 Yeah, we break into healthcare without any of, I mean, honestly, without the help of chang and those guys also

00:17:33.000 00:17:34.000 Yeah.

00:17:34.000 00:17:38.000 But those two are very, very, those are like genius people

00:17:38.000 00:17:46.000 That’s why they don’t really care about this appointment scheduling thing. They care about like the really, really like million dollar

00:17:46.000 00:17:47.000 ideas.

00:17:47.000 00:17:48.000 like training my ml models

00:17:48.000 00:17:53.000 like the like Chang is like a genius guy, like different level of like

00:17:53.000 00:17:54.000 Yeah.

00:17:54.000 00:17:57.000 He went to Oxford, he went to MIT.

00:17:57.000 00:18:01.000 He’s a doctor and he’s PhD.

00:18:01.000 00:18:06.000 like he’s like a live doctor. Right now, he’s like a doctor it’s like

00:18:06.000 00:18:11.000 I don’t know. I talked to him. I’m like, I don’t even know how you’re why we’re talking like

00:18:11.000 00:18:12.000 Yeah.

00:18:12.000 00:18:14.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:14.000 00:18:16.000 50% of the time, like, yeah, yeah.

00:18:16.000 00:18:20.000 No, he worked for Accenture’s AI division

00:18:20.000 00:18:21.000 Oh.

00:18:21.000 00:18:22.000 Nice.

00:18:22.000 00:18:26.000 Yeah, search up Quantum Black, Miguel.

00:18:26.000 00:18:32.000 Maybe it’s McKinsey’s AI. If you search up quantum black

00:18:32.000 00:18:34.000 Yeah, it’s McKinsey’s.

00:18:34.000 00:18:41.000 Yeah.

00:18:41.000 00:18:42.000 Cool.

00:18:42.000 00:19:00.000 So that’s why he brings a lot of credibility

00:19:00.000 00:19:22.000 Oh, yeah, they’re back.

00:19:22.000 00:19:25.000 Does this take a sec?

00:19:25.000 00:19:30.000 Wait, sorry, source.

00:19:30.000 00:19:36.000 starting development yeah

00:19:36.000 00:19:37.000 Well, it should load now.

00:19:37.000 00:19:41.000 While we are waiting for this

00:19:41.000 00:19:47.000 Were you able to ding Melanie, the girl i stand for the

00:19:47.000 00:19:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let’s talk about that.

00:19:50.000 00:19:51.000 Yeah.

00:19:51.000 00:19:55.000 you need to run the backend tutor.

00:19:55.000 00:19:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:19:57.000 00:20:03.000 It’s the other repository named Express, HPI Express.

00:20:03.000 00:20:09.000 Oh, shit. Okay, hold on.

00:20:09.000 00:20:11.000 Yeah, go ahead, Nico. I’m listening.

00:20:11.000 00:20:17.000 Oh no, I was thinking about what Christine just sent. I was going through that

00:20:17.000 00:20:19.000 I mean, it’s cool um

00:20:19.000 00:20:29.000 I like it, really like it. So she’s going to be communicative or if she’s going to communicate a little bit better, I think we can stick with Christine. I don’t know

00:20:29.000 00:20:34.000 I think you said she was kind of, I don’t know if it was expensive or not i don’t remember.

00:20:34.000 00:20:35.000 really bad.

00:20:35.000 00:20:37.000 That was a different person, I think.

00:20:37.000 00:20:41.000 Yeah.

00:20:41.000 00:20:42.000 Oh, okay.

00:20:42.000 00:20:43.000 So Christine is like five bucks an hour. This other girl I talked to is like 10 bucks an hour.

00:20:43.000 00:20:47.000 And then, but again, I think this is going to start as part-time

00:20:47.000 00:20:48.000 Yeah.

00:20:48.000 00:20:51.000 And then hopefully like this person crushes it

00:20:51.000 00:20:55.000 But I need someone who’s like addicted to like organization you know like

00:20:55.000 00:20:56.000 Yeah, I know, I know.

00:20:56.000 00:21:01.000 I don’t want people to be waiting for us to be like, go do this.

00:21:01.000 00:21:02.000 Which is like, that’s the biggest thing I’m nervous about

00:21:02.000 00:21:04.000 That’s…

00:21:04.000 00:21:07.000 Yeah. And that’s why i was

00:21:07.000 00:21:14.000 I wanted to talk about because the garlic sand is just maybe for a part-time and i don’t think she’s going to

00:21:14.000 00:21:20.000 open to working fully for the notion stuff maybe if we can find anything else

00:21:20.000 00:21:23.000 like the operations staff also

00:21:23.000 00:21:26.000 Maybe he asked, but I am not sure. Maybe you need to talk to Farrah and Jazz.

00:21:26.000 00:21:27.000 Okay.

00:21:27.000 00:21:31.000 explain a little bit what we are aiming for.

00:21:31.000 00:21:32.000 Okay, okay.

00:21:32.000 00:21:37.000 But I like what Christine is doing. I mean, if she’s going to communicate better, I think we can stick with Christine, obviously.

00:21:37.000 00:21:38.000 Awesome.

00:21:38.000 00:21:40.000 And if it’s cheap, I think it’s awesome.

00:21:40.000 00:21:41.000 Or we can just be honest with her.

00:21:41.000 00:21:43.000 I’m going to…

00:21:43.000 00:21:44.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean.

00:21:44.000 00:21:45.000 No, no, I mean, I’m…

00:21:45.000 00:21:50.000 I was honest with her. She didn’t respond to me being like, because I did say like.

00:21:50.000 00:21:53.000 It looks like you’re busy with other stuff like

00:21:53.000 00:21:55.000 Is this film important? I mean.

00:21:55.000 00:22:00.000 I’m kind of very candid these days. So I’m like, is this still important or like

00:22:00.000 00:22:03.000 It’s fine if it’s not. Just tell me so we can evaluate other candidates.

00:22:03.000 00:22:04.000 Yeah.

00:22:04.000 00:22:06.000 If people read that, they’re going to be like.

00:22:06.000 00:22:10.000 shocked, you know, but I also want them to be like, yo, don’t waste our time

00:22:10.000 00:22:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:11.000 00:22:15.000 like you said you could do this. If you can’t do this, that’s fine. We’ll find other people. I just want to keep moving.

00:22:15.000 00:22:21.000 Exactly. Yeah. And also, I like the format she used for all of the

00:22:21.000 00:22:24.000 client pages but um

00:22:24.000 00:22:27.000 She’s not like trying anything on linking with the actual apps

00:22:27.000 00:22:33.000 it’s just like visual stuff. So we’ll need to do like a workaround on some stuff

00:22:33.000 00:22:39.000 But maybe we need to get like an hour with her on a meet and go through everything

00:22:39.000 00:22:41.000 And see if she can do it.

00:22:41.000 00:22:47.000 Visually, everything looks really nice.

00:22:47.000 00:22:53.000 But we needed a little bit more functionally i think

00:22:53.000 00:23:00.000 Yeah, that’s my only notes on that.

00:23:00.000 00:23:20.000 Okay.

00:23:20.000 00:23:24.000 Yeah, we should use secrets maybe later but

00:23:24.000 00:23:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:23:25.000 00:23:52.000 So…

00:23:52.000 00:23:55.000 other thing.

00:23:55.000 00:24:00.000 that I’m thinking of is we don’t want to recharge

00:24:00.000 00:24:03.000 support ticket that you open with pride tran

00:24:03.000 00:24:04.000 Yeah.

00:24:04.000 00:24:07.000 the guy said that it’s still sinking. I mean, it’s been four days

00:24:07.000 00:24:08.000 so

00:24:08.000 00:24:12.000 But what about, but no, he responded today saying, I think it’s good.

00:24:12.000 00:24:18.000 Yeah, he said it’s good, but he said it’s still sinking. Like, well, I’m when i’m

00:24:18.000 00:24:22.000 Go into Fivetran. Let me check again, but I went today this morning

00:24:22.000 00:24:23.000 And it was still

00:24:23.000 00:24:28.000 I think he said this. I think he said this morning that it’s good.

00:24:28.000 00:24:31.000 what he meant, I think it’s good it’s

00:24:31.000 00:24:36.000 still, okay, wait, let me see

00:24:36.000 00:24:38.000 Oh no, yeah, three hours ago. Let me check.

00:24:38.000 00:24:39.000 I’m going to check.

00:24:39.000 00:24:41.000 Okay.

00:24:41.000 00:24:45.000 Yeah, the one that’s failing now is gorgeous. It’s still failing

00:24:45.000 00:24:50.000 So that’s why I’m like, dude, sometimes I’ve used this five turn product for a long time like

00:24:50.000 00:24:54.000 The one thing is we just hammered the support.

00:24:54.000 00:24:55.000 Just hit the support no matter what.

00:24:55.000 00:24:56.000 Yeah.

00:24:56.000 00:24:59.000 Because it’s going to save us some time.

00:24:59.000 00:25:01.000 Yeah.

00:25:01.000 00:25:02.000 No, but I want to

00:25:02.000 00:25:06.000 So, yeah.

00:25:06.000 00:25:10.000 What I want to see is

00:25:10.000 00:25:13.000 Wait.

00:25:13.000 00:25:15.000 is how many

00:25:15.000 00:25:19.000 rows and stuff are we bringing in from research because

00:25:19.000 00:25:28.000 last thing I saw was kind of poor

00:25:28.000 00:25:31.000 you see we are still getting like 15 rows on the orders one

00:25:31.000 00:25:36.000 the raw schema that’s

00:25:36.000 00:25:38.000 I don’t know, recharge.

00:25:38.000 00:25:39.000 false.

00:25:39.000 00:25:42.000 Yes, not that high.

00:25:42.000 00:25:52.000 I think, Uten, what do you call this? The UI is running on five. Oh, no, I think you’re running on 5,000. Something is running on 5,000.

00:25:52.000 00:25:53.000 on the port.

00:25:53.000 00:25:54.000 Oh, really?

00:25:54.000 00:26:02.000 Yeah, because the error is something is already running on 5000

00:26:02.000 00:26:04.000 Can I just change the port?

00:26:04.000 00:26:20.000 Yeah, it’s in server.js.

00:26:20.000 00:26:25.000 That should work. And then we also have to, of course, change the

00:26:25.000 00:26:27.000 what do you call this the

00:26:27.000 00:26:31.000 basically the URL in the UI. Wait, let me find that again.

00:26:31.000 00:26:35.000 Because it’s connected to 6,000.

00:26:35.000 00:26:36.000 Yeah.

00:26:36.000 00:26:39.000 I have the 5,000, sorry.

00:26:39.000 00:26:40.000 Yeah, tell me where that is.

00:26:40.000 00:26:43.000 Let me go ahead.

00:26:43.000 00:26:47.000 It’s in, oh shit, I didn’t.

00:26:47.000 00:26:49.000 compartmentalize it.

00:26:49.000 00:27:19.000 But it’s in what do you call this it’s in risk two i think you can just search 5,000, to be honest, and then change it to 6,000.

00:27:32.000 00:27:35.000 No, that’s fine. That’s Lothy. We don’t need that.

00:27:35.000 00:27:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:50.000 00:28:20.000 Give me out, give me out.

00:29:02.000 00:29:11.000 Same thing. Do I have to do

00:29:11.000 00:29:14.000 Do I have to run npm install again?

00:29:14.000 00:29:17.000 No, no, there’s no need.

00:29:17.000 00:29:20.000 Oh.

00:29:20.000 00:29:22.000 we run it.

00:29:22.000 00:29:25.000 Since…

00:29:25.000 00:29:33.000 Did you save, sorry, I think I missed it. Did you save it when you changed the 6,000?

00:29:33.000 00:29:38.000 Yeah.

00:29:38.000 00:29:41.000 It’s all saved.

00:29:41.000 00:29:48.000 6,000 and I should say it should reflect

00:29:48.000 00:29:52.000 Oh, never mind.

00:29:52.000 00:30:05.000 I can’t see it anymore. Oh yeah, it’s 5K.

00:30:05.000 00:30:08.000 Is it the Zoom or is your PC lagging?

00:30:08.000 00:30:10.000 My computer.

00:30:10.000 00:30:15.000 Oh, okay.

00:30:15.000 00:30:45.000 Yeah, that should automatically change. We don’t need to restart the server.

00:30:50.000 00:30:53.000 Can you try refreshing this page?

00:30:53.000 00:31:11.000 Yeah, that’s okay.

00:31:11.000 00:31:14.000 Wow. Okay. I mean, I’m just gonna i’m gonna go

00:31:14.000 00:31:19.000 I was looking at Apple yesterday and i was like

00:31:19.000 00:31:26.000 I don’t know, do I really need this right now, but this is like so bad.

00:31:26.000 00:31:29.000 I could share a screen for now if you guys want.

00:31:29.000 00:31:33.000 No, because I want to get it loaded because I want to test it today.

00:31:33.000 00:31:35.000 and get you back any notes.

00:31:35.000 00:31:38.000 Okay, sure, sure.

00:31:38.000 00:31:39.000 Give me a sec.

00:31:39.000 00:31:41.000 Just to open

00:31:41.000 00:31:45.000 Now I just opened a new ticket for the gorgeous stuff.

00:31:45.000 00:31:47.000 Okay.

00:31:47.000 00:31:50.000 Cool.

00:31:50.000 00:31:56.000 Hey guys, we have the other meeting in 10 minutes. Do you mind if I just drop and join there so you can keep working on the HPI stuff?

00:31:56.000 00:31:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:57.000 00:31:58.000 Cool. Thanks, guys.

00:31:58.000 00:32:04.000 Yeah.

00:32:04.000 00:32:07.000 Has it loaded or is it just me?

00:32:07.000 00:32:10.000 No, it’s…

00:32:10.000 00:32:14.000 Oh yeah, it’s not loading at all. It’s not even yeah

00:32:14.000 00:32:24.000 you need that mac

00:32:24.000 00:32:32.000 It’s just crazy. I don’t know what is stalling my fucking machine.

00:32:32.000 00:32:36.000 Oh, it’s probably because we’re running the server on my machine, right?

00:32:36.000 00:32:39.000 No, but Express doesn’t really, you know.

00:32:39.000 00:32:44.000 Megan, thanks so much silver so less uh

00:32:44.000 00:32:48.000 Oh, there you go. Now it’s loading. Hopefully it works.

00:32:48.000 00:32:52.000 Huh? What is it?

00:32:52.000 00:32:55.000 Let me look at theirs. Let me close a couple more things.

00:32:55.000 00:32:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:59.000 00:33:01.000 Why is it failing?

00:33:01.000 00:33:04.000 Do you have postmen in your…

00:33:04.000 00:33:12.000 Yeah.

00:33:12.000 00:33:16.000 Did I push anything? No, I didn’t touch the code i think

00:33:16.000 00:33:26.000 H-B-I-U-I. No, I didn’t touch anything.

00:33:26.000 00:33:27.000 You can connect the Mac Mini to your map, right?

00:33:27.000 00:33:28.000 No, it’s…

00:33:28.000 00:33:31.000 use it as a screen?

00:33:31.000 00:33:34.000 No, Mac Mini is just like it’s

00:33:34.000 00:33:40.000 It’s just like a it’s just like a box. And I have monitors. I don’t need to

00:33:40.000 00:33:45.000 No, I mean like because I searched it up. I think you can connect it to your map

00:33:45.000 00:33:47.000 right and then it’ll automatically service the screen

00:33:47.000 00:33:50.000 Why?

00:33:50.000 00:33:51.000 Oh, really? Oh, I didn’t know.

00:33:51.000 00:33:54.000 Yeah, yeah. So I was like, oh, yeah.

00:33:54.000 00:33:56.000 I think that could work.

00:33:56.000 00:34:06.000 Cheaper version, right?

00:34:06.000 00:34:09.000 Well, there you go. You’re a PC server.

00:34:09.000 00:34:12.000 Because it’s the…

00:34:12.000 00:34:17.000 Because it’s the

00:34:17.000 00:34:19.000 projects after.

00:34:19.000 00:34:27.000 Filled 6,000. Yeah, it’s not getting the proper server

00:34:27.000 00:34:32.000 Is it running our server like the

00:34:32.000 00:34:35.000 Running on 6,000.

00:34:35.000 00:34:49.000 local host.

00:34:49.000 00:34:54.000 Okay.

00:34:54.000 00:35:00.000 6,000 API lease projects.

00:35:00.000 00:35:02.000 It’s pointing to the correct name.

00:35:02.000 00:35:24.000 the correct path.

00:35:24.000 00:35:29.000 All right, Utam, can you try going to what you call this? Can you try going to

00:35:29.000 00:35:43.000 postman see what’s happening.

00:35:43.000 00:35:49.000 then just get request this. I think it’s a get

00:35:49.000 00:36:05.000 6,000, sorry, for your end.

00:36:05.000 00:36:11.000 75,000.

00:36:11.000 00:36:13.000 just saying, oh, what traders would get?

00:36:13.000 00:36:16.000 Yeah, it’s a good…

00:36:16.000 00:36:23.000 Yeah, it’s working.

00:36:23.000 00:36:34.000 Is it not getting it?

00:36:34.000 00:36:37.000 Let me just um

00:36:37.000 00:37:07.000 Try another.

00:37:07.000 00:37:16.000 Harry, can you go back to home page? Because I think that’s where it’s wrong.

00:37:16.000 00:37:20.000 Yeah, let’s go to homepage.js.

00:37:20.000 00:37:21.000 What do you mean?

00:37:21.000 00:37:23.000 In the gold, in the gold i think

00:37:23.000 00:37:24.000 Oh.

00:37:24.000 00:37:27.000 Yeah, I think there’s something wrong in there. Let me see.

00:37:27.000 00:37:41.000 6,000 lease projects. No, it’s correct. Why is it not pointing?

00:37:41.000 00:37:48.000 There’s nothing else. Wow.

00:37:48.000 00:37:51.000 6,000 budget details.

00:37:51.000 00:37:59.000 That is correct.

00:37:59.000 00:38:04.000 unsafe park.

00:38:04.000 00:38:07.000 to the resource.

00:38:07.000 00:38:13.000 Wait, are you running anything that’s blocking local hosts? No, but it ran on…

00:38:13.000 00:38:36.000 It’s run on postman so it’s not the case.

00:38:36.000 00:38:45.000 6,000 is not good. It wants 8,000.

00:38:45.000 00:38:49.000 I didn’t know that.

00:38:49.000 00:38:52.000 Yeah, and then we have to also, of course, change the

00:38:52.000 00:39:18.000 the express

00:39:18.000 00:39:36.000 Okay, that should be good then.

00:39:36.000 00:39:37.000 Yeah.

00:39:37.000 00:39:39.000 Oh, there you go. Finally, yeah.

00:39:39.000 00:39:43.000 And…

00:39:43.000 00:39:47.000 Sick.

00:39:47.000 00:39:49.000 So where is this getting sent to relevance?

00:39:49.000 00:39:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:51.000 00:40:21.000 And then, uh.

00:40:31.000 00:40:35.000 Okay, so in this, so let me just walk through, let me just walk through my assumptions. I’m going to act like

00:40:35.000 00:40:36.000 I’m on their side.

00:40:36.000 00:40:37.000 Okay, sure.

00:40:37.000 00:40:40.000 So, so…

00:40:40.000 00:40:45.000 So far, what this is, is basically this is on the left is our standard agreement

00:40:45.000 00:40:51.000 These are standard terms. This is the name, and then this is what they proposed.

00:40:51.000 00:40:54.000 At the moment, what we have so far is we’ve loaded in their proposal

00:40:54.000 00:40:55.000 Yep.

00:40:55.000 00:40:59.000 And now you can chat with

00:40:59.000 00:41:07.000 You can chat and understand if the proposal is effective or not. So basically the demo we’re showing is every time you get back

00:41:07.000 00:41:10.000 an instance of a proposal you can upload it

00:41:10.000 00:41:14.000 And then basically chat with it to understand, is this something we should do or not?

00:41:14.000 00:41:18.000 So let’s say

00:41:18.000 00:41:20.000 Tell me why we shouldn’t.

00:41:20.000 00:41:27.000 except the parking.

00:41:27.000 00:41:30.000 I have to fix that specific part of the UI.

00:41:30.000 00:41:32.000 But yeah.

00:41:32.000 00:41:36.000 should be good for now.

00:41:36.000 00:41:43.000 Yeah, because it’s going to multiply. I don’t know why.

00:41:43.000 00:41:48.000 Okay, so a couple of things we can um

00:41:48.000 00:41:51.000 And now that this is here, I’m going to start, I’ll use AI to basically like

00:41:51.000 00:41:53.000 make some shit a little bit better.

00:41:53.000 00:41:55.000 Yeah.

00:41:55.000 00:42:01.000 But it looks great so far, honestly. I think the other thing I want to make these the responses

00:42:01.000 00:42:03.000 a little bit cleaner.

00:42:03.000 00:42:07.000 A cleaner house, shorter house.

00:42:07.000 00:42:08.000 more descriptive, shorter okay

00:42:08.000 00:42:09.000 Shorter. Shorter.

00:42:09.000 00:42:13.000 That one, that’s a bug. I’m not sure why.

00:42:13.000 00:42:23.000 I’ll fix it.

00:42:23.000 00:42:29.000 Okay. Okay. I think this looks great. I’m going to test it out and I’m going to

00:42:29.000 00:42:32.000 I can keep making

00:42:32.000 00:42:38.000 edits to the agent. The thing I want to try to get

00:42:38.000 00:42:47.000 for the demo is basically which I want to explain that we’re using the standard lease and we’re using the lease proposal that came in.

00:42:47.000 00:42:50.000 Which lease proposal are we using for this?

00:42:50.000 00:42:51.000 Do you remember?

00:42:51.000 00:42:53.000 Actually, it’s not a lease proposal

00:42:53.000 00:42:56.000 It’s an absolute lease. There’s no proposal they sent

00:42:56.000 00:42:57.000 So this agreement

00:42:57.000 00:43:00.000 No, but how are we getting this 32 and stuff like that?

00:43:00.000 00:43:06.000 It’s from the lease. So that’s already agreed upon. That’s not proposed.

00:43:06.000 00:43:10.000 But then what is a 42 coming from?

00:43:10.000 00:43:12.000 That’s their standard.

00:43:12.000 00:43:14.000 based on what

00:43:14.000 00:43:15.000 Scott gave us.

00:43:15.000 00:43:22.000 Oh, okay. But then tell me, can you show me in the Google Drive which one this is?

00:43:22.000 00:43:26.000 Yeah, sure. It’s

00:43:26.000 00:43:36.000 the Morgan Group, that’s the name of the lease. Barton Click, Barton Creek Morgan Group, something like that.

00:43:36.000 00:43:37.000 Is it this one? Is this the seventh one?

00:43:37.000 00:43:44.000 I’m not seeing it. Oh, wait.

00:43:44.000 00:43:45.000 Because what’s in it.

00:43:45.000 00:43:47.000 I think so, yeah. Yeah, that’s not the one. It’s that one.

00:43:47.000 00:43:48.000 Yeah, no, no.

00:43:48.000 00:43:53.000 HBI and demo yeah definitely that one.

00:43:53.000 00:43:54.000 What?

00:43:54.000 00:44:03.000 And then so if I look in here, I should see the 32, right?

00:44:03.000 00:44:04.000 Yeah.

00:44:04.000 00:44:08.000 Yes.

00:44:08.000 00:44:09.000 Okay.

00:44:09.000 00:44:13.000 Actually, one thing, Utah, that I haven’t actually done, I forgot to do it.

00:44:13.000 00:44:21.000 This one is connected to relevance, right? But our tool is not connected to like anything is not yet connected to relevance. I need to connect that

00:44:21.000 00:44:22.000 But that should be pretty simple.

00:44:22.000 00:44:23.000 What do you mean?

00:44:23.000 00:44:31.000 All right, now the agent doesn’t actually have access to this document. It just knows the details of this document.

00:44:31.000 00:44:33.000 Oh, because it’s using the wrong knowledge base.

00:44:33.000 00:44:35.000 No, no, it’s not using a knowledge base yet.

00:44:35.000 00:44:44.000 Basically, when you when you load the page, the details of this contract, I already saved it into a database, right?

00:44:44.000 00:44:47.000 we automatically pass it into the agent so the agent knows even without the

00:44:47.000 00:44:51.000 Oh, but it’s just a text. It’s just text file.

00:44:51.000 00:44:55.000 it’s not even text file. It’s more of like JSON data.

00:44:55.000 00:44:56.000 Oh, shit. Nice.

00:44:56.000 00:45:01.000 I just extracted the poor details here.

00:45:01.000 00:45:03.000 we could connect it, but initially i i don’t i didn’t really see like the point

00:45:03.000 00:45:05.000 And we do both.

00:45:05.000 00:45:06.000 Yeah, we could do both. We could do both.

00:45:06.000 00:45:13.000 Because we should hop this other meeting, but for the demo, I want to try to be like.

00:45:13.000 00:45:16.000 I want to literally have the lease up and ask the agent

00:45:16.000 00:45:18.000 pull something from this lease

00:45:18.000 00:45:19.000 And it could go through it.

00:45:19.000 00:45:23.000 Yeah, the big thing you could do there is if you go to the $32 one.

00:45:23.000 00:45:26.000 the price increases every year from 32 all the way to 37.

00:45:26.000 00:45:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:27.000 00:45:30.000 The agent gets that, the N8N agent. So I’ll put that up there.

00:45:30.000 00:45:32.000 Oh, really? Okay, sick. Okay. Okay, let’s do that.

00:45:32.000 00:45:33.000 So that’s a good one.

00:45:33.000 00:45:37.000 Let’s hop this other meeting and then let’s hop on right after

00:45:37.000 00:45:40.000 I don’t think this will take the full 45 minutes, so.

00:45:40.000 00:45:46.000 Okay, yeah, sure. Let’s stop on that.