Meeting Title: Uttam-Kumaran’s-Personal-Meeting-Room Date: 2024-10-21 Meeting participants: Luke Daque, Nicolas Sucari, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:02:23.190 00:02:24.239 Nicolas Sucari: Hi! You! Tom!

2 00:02:24.820 00:02:25.155 Uttam Kumaran: Hey!

3 00:02:26.560 00:02:27.580 Nicolas Sucari: How are you?

4 00:02:28.220 00:02:29.430 Uttam Kumaran: Good! How are you?

5 00:02:30.160 00:02:31.100 Nicolas Sucari: Been good.

6 00:02:35.140 00:02:45.972 Uttam Kumaran: Tons of stuff today, but I think we get through the 1st things, and then when we have our meeting with me, you and Miguel share like a bunch of stuff on the sales side. So I just

7 00:02:46.250 00:02:47.050 Nicolas Sucari: Excellent.

8 00:02:47.390 00:02:53.380 Uttam Kumaran: I added a bunch of stuff onto this document.

9 00:02:59.850 00:03:02.699 Uttam Kumaran: If you look at that document and go to the bottom.

10 00:03:02.950 00:03:03.976 Uttam Kumaran: I added,

11 00:03:05.160 00:03:12.590 Uttam Kumaran: just give this a read real quick, and then make any changes. But basically, I wanted to kind of like use this. As for our discussion.

12 00:03:13.170 00:03:16.240 Nicolas Sucari: I I just requested access, because I don’t have access.

13 00:03:18.890 00:03:20.010 Uttam Kumaran: Give me one sec.

14 00:03:24.870 00:03:25.650 Uttam Kumaran: Alright.

15 00:03:31.240 00:03:31.990 Nicolas Sucari: Check.

16 00:03:40.450 00:03:41.470 Nicolas Sucari: Did you give me access.

17 00:03:44.610 00:03:45.589 Uttam Kumaran: You see it.

18 00:03:46.680 00:03:47.390 Uttam Kumaran: Thanks.

19 00:03:50.350 00:03:52.330 Nicolas Sucari: Oh, there, I got access. Okay.

20 00:04:29.810 00:04:31.270 Nicolas Sucari: hey? This is good.

21 00:04:31.880 00:04:40.019 Nicolas Sucari: So this is what they had. What? What this is like the doc they share with us but a little bit nicer, right like of the 1st part.

22 00:04:40.020 00:04:42.180 Uttam Kumaran: The top one is what they shared with us.

23 00:04:42.510 00:04:43.050 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

24 00:04:43.050 00:04:45.630 Uttam Kumaran: I just wrote this retro part at the bottom.

25 00:04:46.040 00:04:46.820 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

26 00:04:54.440 00:04:56.589 Nicolas Sucari: how you did it like a day by day?

27 00:04:57.750 00:05:01.109 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, because it was kind of 1 1 week, one week of right.

28 00:05:01.340 00:05:09.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, the biggest thing they’re going to. The biggest thing I think we I wanna talk about is, how do we? How could we have done this in one day, basically.

29 00:05:09.730 00:05:10.860 Uttam Kumaran: and

30 00:05:10.880 00:05:14.549 Uttam Kumaran: which I think we’re pretty clear on. And that’s kind of what I wrote at the top. I said

31 00:05:14.830 00:05:19.349 Uttam Kumaran: the first, st like Monday, Tuesday was like, there was just some issues with the data

32 00:05:21.990 00:05:23.380 Uttam Kumaran: And then

33 00:05:23.570 00:05:34.249 Uttam Kumaran: Wednesday, we basically got started. I think Patrick finished loading it. But then, basically, I think, waited until the next day to say that it was done. So then Ryan took it over.

34 00:05:34.300 00:05:38.012 Uttam Kumaran: Probably we could have got everything done by Thursday morning.

35 00:05:38.880 00:05:40.729 Uttam Kumaran: and I think, like.

36 00:05:40.770 00:05:45.544 Uttam Kumaran: if we had another go at it, we probably could have gotten everything done by Monday or Tuesday.

37 00:05:45.870 00:05:49.665 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s basically what I want to share. I don’t know.

38 00:05:50.840 00:05:53.170 Uttam Kumaran: I’m not sure what their feedback is. Gonna be

39 00:05:53.310 00:05:55.839 Uttam Kumaran: my feeling that their feedback.

40 00:05:56.190 00:05:57.729 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I don’t know, like

41 00:05:57.910 00:06:00.290 Uttam Kumaran: I would say, I,

42 00:06:00.410 00:06:09.720 Uttam Kumaran: I always am very nervous and pessimistic, as you know. So my, I feel like their feedback is, gonna be like, you guys suck. It didn’t work. Blah! Blah! I haven’t.

43 00:06:09.720 00:06:11.420 Nicolas Sucari: I mean, it’s worked.

44 00:06:11.540 00:06:14.669 Nicolas Sucari: but but I don’t know why why they are gonna say that because.

45 00:06:14.670 00:06:19.593 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, I also have a feeling. They may not say that. So I just want to be prepared for

46 00:06:20.060 00:06:21.659 Uttam Kumaran: the worst, and I think.

47 00:06:21.660 00:06:22.080 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.

48 00:06:22.080 00:06:31.769 Uttam Kumaran: I think 2 things when you do this sort of feedback, especially with like a someone who’s a client one I want us to acknowledge where we could have done better. I also want to

49 00:06:32.040 00:06:38.050 Uttam Kumaran: kind of like, say that, hey? These are the issues that kind of like caused us to run into some delays.

50 00:06:38.260 00:06:47.620 Uttam Kumaran: And then I also want to have, like, basically the improvements for the future engagements, right? Which is like we could have worked with smaller data. We could have had this handoff process.

51 00:06:47.950 00:06:48.769 Uttam Kumaran: And so and.

52 00:06:48.770 00:06:51.090 Nicolas Sucari: And also we, I think we need to.

53 00:06:51.090 00:06:53.750 Uttam Kumaran: We could just listen, see what they say. And then

54 00:06:53.930 00:07:02.950 Uttam Kumaran: my goal in that call is going to find out when we do the next one. Right? So that’s what we’re going for. So let’s just like work through that call. However, we need to for that, you know.

55 00:07:03.540 00:07:08.489 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I think we are open to hearing any feedback from them, and see what we

56 00:07:08.610 00:07:16.330 Nicolas Sucari: what we could do better the next time. So we we should. We should put like our focus on that one. And if they are like, if they are like.

57 00:07:16.460 00:07:20.740 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, give giving us the pessimistic feedback that you’re expecting. We just

58 00:07:20.960 00:07:26.870 Nicolas Sucari: wanted want to know down those things and try to improve the next time. So that should be like our

59 00:07:26.980 00:07:31.130 Nicolas Sucari: our position in the in the meeting, I think but also like

60 00:07:31.160 00:07:46.109 Nicolas Sucari: regarding the actual dashboards and the product that we built. I I think it worked. The only thing was that click house as as it was like a huge amount of data it was taking like lots of time to load. And I think

61 00:07:46.230 00:07:52.229 Nicolas Sucari: we we can’t do that regarding that one. Right? I mean, it’s it’s something on click house and something we can

62 00:07:52.500 00:07:56.863 Nicolas Sucari: look into, how to improve for future, for future work.

63 00:07:58.190 00:08:03.660 Nicolas Sucari: but yeah, I mean, it was our 1st time working with Github, with click hub, yeah, with click house, too. So

64 00:08:03.820 00:08:07.720 Nicolas Sucari: I think it went actually good. But yeah.

65 00:08:08.100 00:08:15.690 Nicolas Sucari: I mean, it’s it’s the the learning curve that we always need need to work on the 1st time that we are using something right.

66 00:08:15.930 00:08:18.059 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So that’s why I’m okay. I’m

67 00:08:18.730 00:08:19.590 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.

68 00:08:20.660 00:08:22.450 Nicolas Sucari: And actually, we need

69 00:08:22.510 00:08:24.269 Nicolas Sucari: we did it in one week. So.

70 00:08:24.400 00:08:25.220 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

71 00:08:26.850 00:08:31.499 Luke Daque: Do you guys need this meeting or like I I can like, drop off if.

72 00:08:31.990 00:08:41.147 Uttam Kumaran: No, I mean you can drop off. I don’t think I mean yeah, unless you have, unless I don’t know if you took a look at this thing I wrote. If there’s anything else you think worth mentioning, let me know. But.

73 00:08:41.720 00:08:45.770 Luke Daque: Yeah, I just read through everything. And I, yeah, I was like.

74 00:08:46.520 00:08:51.599 Luke Daque: like, Nick already mentioned it about like the data and and stuff like that. So

75 00:08:52.540 00:08:53.129 Luke Daque: yeah.

76 00:08:53.940 00:08:58.020 Nicolas Sucari: I think we did what they asked, and we did it in in a week.

77 00:08:58.391 00:09:15.229 Nicolas Sucari: We’re we were able to to show them that. And yeah, maybe the 1st 2 or 3 days were kind. We were kind of blocked and trying to figure out how to do it, but once that was ready. I mean, it was pretty straightforward. And Ryan did it like real fast. So yeah.

78 00:09:16.770 00:09:17.909 Nicolas Sucari: I think we’re good.

79 00:09:18.550 00:09:19.470 Nicolas Sucari: Excellent.

80 00:09:22.290 00:09:23.190 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.

81 00:09:24.379 00:09:28.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess, Ryan, you can stay on or drop off, but I guess we can talk a little bit about

82 00:09:29.520 00:09:34.729 Uttam Kumaran: while I have you here? Wait! Are we on this meeting right now? Oh, no, okay. Don’t mind.

83 00:09:36.100 00:09:38.609 Nicolas Sucari: We have in yeah, in 30 min.

84 00:09:38.610 00:09:39.250 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.

85 00:09:40.140 00:09:42.327 Uttam Kumaran: okay. So I guess let’s talk about

86 00:09:45.900 00:09:50.199 Uttam Kumaran: Jabby? Yeah. I saw the 5 trend. What did they end up saying?

87 00:09:51.770 00:09:52.780 Uttam Kumaran: The 5 train folks.

88 00:09:52.780 00:10:01.290 Nicolas Sucari: We were. Yeah, they they don’t build yet that amount that we that we thought they were going to bill

89 00:10:01.735 00:10:23.180 Nicolas Sucari: they this guy I think it’s called Will he showed us me and Brian the how to estimate correctly and what we’re like how to filter down in Fiveran and see the correct amount. We were gonna be billed, and as we are in the like, the 1st 2 weeks, we did all of the initial things that they don’t charge that

90 00:10:23.180 00:10:43.559 Nicolas Sucari: I think you were aware of that. So yeah, we we can now like deselect some tables. And yeah, the estimation was around a thousand, a thousand $200. That’s what the starter plan was needing. And he changed us to the starter plan and say, yeah, we were not gonna get billed

91 00:10:43.620 00:10:45.710 Nicolas Sucari: for 3 k, almost.

92 00:10:45.840 00:10:51.360 Nicolas Sucari: So that’s fine. I mean, he showed us how to look into Vitran and try to understand

93 00:10:51.600 00:10:55.590 Nicolas Sucari: how the the they are priced. The pricing is

94 00:10:55.630 00:10:59.020 Nicolas Sucari: so yeah, it was a nice conversation.

95 00:10:59.352 00:11:06.600 Nicolas Sucari: I think it was worth it to understand a little bit more about the 5 Chan platform, and how to look into things there.

96 00:11:07.260 00:11:09.540 Nicolas Sucari: Pretty easy to deselect tables. Yeah.

97 00:11:09.670 00:11:18.300 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I think we go ahead. And maybe you just let him know that that’s gonna be the cost. The other thing is, maybe I’m gonna I have 2 other vendors

98 00:11:18.330 00:11:24.879 Uttam Kumaran: that have mentioned to me that they can match or be lower than 5 trim.

99 00:11:24.880 00:11:25.510 Nicolas Sucari: Sometimes.

100 00:11:25.510 00:11:28.669 Uttam Kumaran: I may loop you in to talk to them.

101 00:11:29.310 00:11:29.910 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.

102 00:11:30.060 00:11:32.050 Uttam Kumaran: I got introduced to them.

103 00:11:33.750 00:11:38.329 Uttam Kumaran: like. So again, I wanna just see like if we can

104 00:11:38.400 00:11:38.925 Uttam Kumaran: somehow.

105 00:11:40.090 00:11:41.200 Nicolas Sucari: Lower the bills. Yeah.

106 00:11:41.200 00:11:42.870 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so

107 00:11:44.020 00:11:46.829 Nicolas Sucari: But you mean for Javi, or for new clients.

108 00:11:48.178 00:11:55.401 Uttam Kumaran: Even for Jabby, like again. I think it’s important to pay just to get it done. But I want to see

109 00:11:56.992 00:11:58.919 Uttam Kumaran: like how we can

110 00:11:59.240 00:12:05.979 Uttam Kumaran: do it cheaper. So there’s so there’s this company called Portable. I’ll send it to you.

111 00:12:06.400 00:12:07.053 Uttam Kumaran: Okay,

112 00:12:32.970 00:12:35.697 Uttam Kumaran: and we can also look into these guys for

113 00:12:38.340 00:12:43.540 Uttam Kumaran: for pool parts. I don’t know what the pool parts costs are these days.

114 00:12:48.520 00:12:56.620 Nicolas Sucari: I mean, if they are not. Yeah, okay. They are not saying anything. I wouldn’t change now anything. I mean, I would.

115 00:12:56.620 00:12:57.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, keep.

116 00:12:57.110 00:13:02.509 Nicolas Sucari: Things as they are. But if we can try it out with a new client and then do it for

117 00:13:02.610 00:13:03.400 Nicolas Sucari: yeah.

118 00:13:03.930 00:13:05.050 Nicolas Sucari: a bullets.

119 00:13:05.150 00:13:06.749 Nicolas Sucari: Obviously, we can take a look

120 00:13:07.730 00:13:08.840 Nicolas Sucari: portable.

121 00:13:26.730 00:13:34.560 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I think maybe you can call them and say, like, Hey, this is what our 5 trend bill is gonna be, because I think the 5 trim bill is probably only gonna go higher.

122 00:13:35.800 00:13:38.839 Nicolas Sucari: It depends. Because it depends the

123 00:13:40.074 00:13:44.430 Nicolas Sucari: the actual rows that are getting updated every day.

124 00:13:44.470 00:13:47.649 Nicolas Sucari: And the of that band. That’s how they price it.

125 00:13:47.650 00:13:51.989 Uttam Kumaran: I also think, like we’re going to be getting new data sources. So if.

126 00:13:51.990 00:13:54.539 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, if we if you’re gonna get new, yeah.

127 00:13:55.020 00:13:58.970 Nicolas Sucari: if you’re gonna get new data sources, I think prices

128 00:13:59.320 00:14:04.749 Nicolas Sucari: for the month that we do the initial sync with that new data sources.

129 00:14:04.800 00:14:08.760 Nicolas Sucari: it will increase a little bit, but then it should reduce again.

130 00:14:08.940 00:14:13.169 Nicolas Sucari: if we are not like changing the entire stuff. I mean, we just are getting the

131 00:14:13.740 00:14:21.139 Nicolas Sucari: the, the new rows, for example. Yeah, it. It shouldn’t be a huge increase in price.

132 00:14:21.250 00:14:30.069 Nicolas Sucari: But the initial things of the new data we need to wisely choose what we want to use. I mean, if we, if we try to do what we did with Amazon, and shopify to

133 00:14:30.090 00:14:36.419 Nicolas Sucari: bring all the their data, and then deselect that will increase the costs. Now, because we are not in the free trial stuff

134 00:14:36.590 00:14:37.860 Nicolas Sucari: part right?

135 00:14:37.860 00:14:38.420 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

136 00:14:39.640 00:14:44.209 Nicolas Sucari: I I wanna talk with with Brian about this and see how we can handle

137 00:14:44.310 00:14:48.960 Nicolas Sucari: like new new data sources. We have the internal meeting with Javi

138 00:14:48.990 00:14:50.280 Nicolas Sucari: team

139 00:14:50.609 00:14:58.710 Nicolas Sucari: pay us and Robert in in a couple of hours. And I want to talk about that. And and yeah, we can decide what what to do there.

140 00:15:03.310 00:15:04.100 Nicolas Sucari: cool.

141 00:15:05.585 00:15:11.504 Uttam Kumaran: Again. The only other thing is, yeah. I I sent one more potential

142 00:15:12.070 00:15:13.580 Uttam Kumaran: ae hire

143 00:15:14.067 00:15:19.953 Uttam Kumaran: again. We’ll talk. We can talk a little bit about budgets when me, you and Miguel talk. But

144 00:15:20.700 00:15:21.930 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I think

145 00:15:21.990 00:15:25.262 Uttam Kumaran: it could either be a good opportunity.

146 00:15:26.240 00:15:33.829 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, basically. Just it could be a good opportunity for new clients, or or to supplement Jabby or just kind of have a backup.

147 00:15:35.060 00:15:38.419 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe I told him someone from our side would reach out.

148 00:15:39.890 00:15:40.440 Nicolas Sucari: Bank.

149 00:15:41.160 00:15:45.999 Nicolas Sucari: I’ll send him an a message through Linkedin, maybe, and try to

150 00:15:46.080 00:15:47.399 Nicolas Sucari: schedule a meeting.

151 00:15:48.460 00:15:49.764 Uttam Kumaran: And then I think

152 00:15:50.530 00:15:52.710 Nicolas Sucari: And I’m meeting with a weige a weige.

153 00:15:53.390 00:15:57.349 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, once we get into the habit of also emailing and messaging these guys.

154 00:15:57.765 00:16:00.780 Uttam Kumaran: we can create some sort of process to automatically

155 00:16:00.840 00:16:04.165 Uttam Kumaran: get them booked stuff like that.

156 00:16:05.040 00:16:07.399 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s just kind of chaotic right now. But

157 00:16:07.520 00:16:08.350 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.

158 00:16:09.540 00:16:10.710 Nicolas Sucari: Excellent. Okay.

159 00:16:10.830 00:16:16.999 Nicolas Sucari: are you? Do? Do we need? I think it would be good to have, like a notion page with each of the candidates.

160 00:16:17.220 00:16:17.580 Uttam Kumaran: I do?

161 00:16:19.250 00:16:21.520 Nicolas Sucari: so that we can add notes

162 00:16:21.650 00:16:24.929 Nicolas Sucari: meeting recordings. I don’t know anything related to that.

163 00:16:25.720 00:16:30.180 Uttam Kumaran: I do have one already. If you go to team

164 00:16:31.224 00:16:34.379 Uttam Kumaran: you can see there’s a tab for recruitment.

165 00:16:35.729 00:16:39.520 Uttam Kumaran: I need to add, these these new folks onto here.

166 00:16:40.350 00:16:41.280 Uttam Kumaran: But

167 00:16:42.350 00:16:45.690 Uttam Kumaran: ideally, I wanna basically try to have like.

168 00:16:46.960 00:16:52.240 Uttam Kumaran: I mean one. I think we should try to find a way to use AI for like gathering feedback against our rubric.

169 00:16:53.750 00:16:58.869 Uttam Kumaran: Rick. But I think you could just paste any notes into here. You can create a new page for everybody.

170 00:16:59.830 00:17:00.520 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.

171 00:17:03.150 00:17:04.150 Nicolas Sucari: excellent.

172 00:17:05.290 00:17:06.020 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.

173 00:17:13.250 00:17:15.440 Uttam Kumaran: Let me just send this to

174 00:19:11.780 00:19:12.815 Uttam Kumaran: alright.

175 00:19:15.960 00:19:17.239 Uttam Kumaran: what else?

176 00:19:28.030 00:19:38.539 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, the website stuff. I basically, I’m like, we need to work. We need to get stuff out faster because we’re just have a backlog of designs. So I just asked. And like.

177 00:19:38.930 00:19:45.471 Uttam Kumaran: I basically asked him, like, Can you do you have any friends that want to do web flow. And she’s like I can just do it. And I’m like, yeah.

178 00:19:46.860 00:19:58.759 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s see, I think we have a bunch of stuff in the backlog that I kind of just want to push through, because we haven’t finished just the baseline worth of stuff. We haven’t even done any of the AI stuff.

179 00:19:58.810 00:20:03.300 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s just gonna get crazier and I wanna just like power through that

180 00:20:03.320 00:20:07.470 Uttam Kumaran: because we have some. We have a lot of AI leads that are coming online right now. So.

181 00:20:07.820 00:20:08.510 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.

182 00:20:09.380 00:20:12.889 Nicolas Sucari: I I didn’t know she was able to work on that.

183 00:20:13.460 00:20:15.000 Uttam Kumaran: She told me she had

184 00:20:15.470 00:20:20.120 Uttam Kumaran: preferred to do more design stuff.

185 00:20:21.935 00:20:25.380 Uttam Kumaran: She told me she preferred to do more design stuff, and and then I was like.

186 00:20:25.732 00:20:31.077 Uttam Kumaran: if you could do that close up. That’d be great, too, because I said, we have Jp. Building, but it’s taking too long.

187 00:20:33.290 00:20:34.070 Uttam Kumaran: so.

188 00:20:34.920 00:20:38.419 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, yeah, do you want? We have the meeting with

189 00:20:38.800 00:20:44.309 Nicolas Sucari: and and Ryan tomorrow. Do you want to talk about that tomorrow, maybe. And we can plan like

190 00:20:44.900 00:20:48.060 Nicolas Sucari: any task for her so that she can start billing.

191 00:20:48.290 00:20:49.989 Nicolas Sucari: Think we have a lot. So

192 00:20:50.680 00:20:51.450 Nicolas Sucari: yeah.

193 00:20:51.710 00:20:53.100 Nicolas Sucari: we can test it out.

194 00:20:56.650 00:20:59.910 Uttam Kumaran: So we have a wish, and then we have this person, which is.

195 00:21:01.100 00:21:02.700 Uttam Kumaran: how’s that?

196 00:21:05.580 00:21:06.320 Uttam Kumaran: Okay?

197 00:21:32.570 00:21:35.170 Luke Daque: Hey, guys, I’ll just drop the call

198 00:21:35.180 00:21:36.359 Luke Daque: for now. Thanks.

199 00:21:37.000 00:21:37.780 Uttam Kumaran: Talk, soon.

200 00:21:42.850 00:21:47.709 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. So we have the meeting in 10 min with them. Do you wanna drop and come back for that one.

201 00:21:47.710 00:21:48.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, cool.

202 00:21:49.750 00:21:50.570 Nicolas Sucari: Excellent.

203 00:21:50.910 00:21:51.610 Nicolas Sucari: See you there.