Meeting Title: Zoom-Meeting Date: 2024-10-16 Meeting participants: Joshua De Veyra, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:37.090 ⇒ 00:00:38.009 Joshua de Veyra: Hello! Hello!
2 00:00:51.970 ⇒ 00:00:53.940 Joshua de Veyra: Hey! Item, I think you’re muted.
3 00:00:53.940 ⇒ 00:00:54.979 Uttam Kumaran: Hey? Can you hear me?
4 00:00:55.320 ⇒ 00:00:57.930 Joshua de Veyra: Yep, sorry I was on a call with Luke. Actually, just now.
5 00:00:58.160 ⇒ 00:00:59.150 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, really.
6 00:00:59.560 ⇒ 00:01:02.140 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, he was asking me about N, 8 and stuff.
7 00:01:02.190 ⇒ 00:01:05.090 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, yeah, about that. We kind of have to pay.
8 00:01:05.099 ⇒ 00:01:07.633 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I have to figure that out today.
9 00:01:07.950 ⇒ 00:01:10.789 Joshua de Veyra: Bucks I can pay it for now, just so he could test it out.
10 00:01:12.470 ⇒ 00:01:16.600 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’ll give you. I’ll give you a card give. I’ll probably I just need like a little bit of time
11 00:01:16.700 ⇒ 00:01:18.279 Uttam Kumaran: that way. It’s all
12 00:01:18.450 ⇒ 00:01:19.880 Uttam Kumaran: like taken care of.
13 00:01:19.970 ⇒ 00:01:23.750 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. I tried to go to coffee shop, but it’s packed. So I’m just gonna go for a walk.
14 00:01:24.410 ⇒ 00:01:25.269 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, okay. Okay.
15 00:01:27.480 ⇒ 00:01:38.530 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I guess I wanted to finish up our call yesterday. I guess I wanted to get your reaction on what I shared. And then I still had a couple of things about like.
16 00:01:38.977 ⇒ 00:01:46.400 Uttam Kumaran: I have a couple of things iron out, and then I want to talk about the existing clients and like some responsibilities. But yeah, like, what do you think overall.
17 00:01:47.880 ⇒ 00:02:04.969 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, actually, I think it’s a good thing that you know. The call also ended a bit earlier prematurely than what we wanted, because I, I had like a day to think it over. Basically, yeah. So far, I think I like the basically whatever everything you said, especially like, you know
18 00:02:05.706 ⇒ 00:02:08.620 Joshua de Veyra: giving more responsibilities. Of course you know
19 00:02:09.130 ⇒ 00:02:15.320 Joshua de Veyra: it also kind of drives you. I agree with what you said kind of drives you to move forward that, you know.
20 00:02:15.420 ⇒ 00:02:17.830 Joshua de Veyra: If the business is winning, then everyone is winning.
21 00:02:18.250 ⇒ 00:02:18.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
22 00:02:19.640 ⇒ 00:02:20.630 Joshua de Veyra: So. And yeah.
23 00:02:21.450 ⇒ 00:02:28.590 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, that’s great. I think the biggest thing I still need to figure out is like what the profit sharing thing is gonna look like
24 00:02:28.921 ⇒ 00:02:33.759 Uttam Kumaran: but I will figure that out and propose. And then we can get that all in a contract and everything.
25 00:02:34.164 ⇒ 00:02:53.000 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, I think. Another thing that we’re kind of changing is so basically, you and Nico are going to be leading each of the, you know, separate practices. So the nice thing on Nico side is. He has like people on the AI side. It’s just you. So one thing that I want to set up
26 00:02:53.170 ⇒ 00:02:54.110 Uttam Kumaran: like
27 00:02:54.370 ⇒ 00:02:57.689 Uttam Kumaran: I want to set up some like, basically some
28 00:02:57.800 ⇒ 00:03:01.029 Uttam Kumaran: milestones that we can get towards. So we can end up
29 00:03:01.040 ⇒ 00:03:12.809 Uttam Kumaran: basically bringing on Casey and then starting to like layer on more stuff and more budget. The biggest things, I think initially. And I, this is where I think there’s gonna have to be a little bit of like
30 00:03:13.030 ⇒ 00:03:26.630 Uttam Kumaran: product management. Like project management on your side, for like tracking everything but what we’ll do this will be a little bit of a learning curve. The nice thing is on Nico side and the data side. You know, we’ve been doing that work for quite a while. So we have like
31 00:03:26.640 ⇒ 00:03:31.859 Uttam Kumaran: clients. We have tracking everything like that on this side, we definitely need
32 00:03:32.244 ⇒ 00:03:37.110 Uttam Kumaran: a little bit more structure and organization on okay, like, how are we?
33 00:03:37.170 ⇒ 00:03:42.229 Uttam Kumaran: What are we doing this week? How are we moving it forward and that all is gonna lay on you?
34 00:03:42.532 ⇒ 00:04:02.719 Uttam Kumaran: Meaning. And we’re gonna Con. We’ll me. You and Nico will talk this week about how we want to do meetings and things like that. But overall the before we can plan, you know, next month, next year. The biggest thing is like, just what are we doing this week? And are we making progress on it? Right? So I I start from there. And until we’re able to
35 00:04:03.230 ⇒ 00:04:08.579 Uttam Kumaran: get that, you know smoothly, then we can move on to the looking at further weeks. So
36 00:04:08.730 ⇒ 00:04:12.700 Uttam Kumaran: 1 1 thing that it would be great, and I’ll start a channel and
37 00:04:12.770 ⇒ 00:04:14.758 Uttam Kumaran: send some notes to everybody but
38 00:04:15.180 ⇒ 00:04:18.719 Uttam Kumaran: we can think about what we want to accomplish this week, and next week.
39 00:04:18.730 ⇒ 00:04:21.680 Uttam Kumaran: I think in my mind the biggest things are
40 00:04:22.130 ⇒ 00:04:24.600 Uttam Kumaran: one. We have existing client work.
41 00:04:24.700 ⇒ 00:04:27.909 Uttam Kumaran: We have the stuff for vita cocoa. We have the stuff for
42 00:04:29.190 ⇒ 00:04:30.650 Uttam Kumaran: for Hpi.
43 00:04:31.036 ⇒ 00:04:36.090 Uttam Kumaran: The other thing that I think is basically equally as important is the sales stuff.
44 00:04:36.200 ⇒ 00:04:38.390 Uttam Kumaran: So we wanna we wanna get
45 00:04:38.943 ⇒ 00:04:41.159 Uttam Kumaran: at least, I would say
46 00:04:41.250 ⇒ 00:04:43.659 Uttam Kumaran: 2 blog posts up around AI
47 00:04:43.930 ⇒ 00:04:45.180 Uttam Kumaran: and automation.
48 00:04:45.833 ⇒ 00:04:51.060 Uttam Kumaran: That would be amazing. And then I also want to start to build.
49 00:04:51.360 ⇒ 00:04:56.187 Uttam Kumaran: have a build pages around AI. So we want case studies and
50 00:04:56.640 ⇒ 00:05:02.829 Uttam Kumaran: those things going. So the like. Ryan and Ann will need about a week lead time
51 00:05:02.930 ⇒ 00:05:05.839 Uttam Kumaran: to do all the images and get the copyright.
52 00:05:06.188 ⇒ 00:05:33.891 Uttam Kumaran: And so those are the those are the biggest things that I would love to plan. Is there anything else. And then the last thing is the the email campaigns. So I know we’re meeting with Ericsson tomorrow. He he will probably need a lot around a week advance, too, so we’ll meet with him tomorrow and kind of share our thoughts. The nice thing is, they’ll kind of take it from there, and then they’ll work with you. And you can review, hey? These are the right people to go after. This is the right copy. Things like that. So it’s kind of 2 fold
53 00:05:34.160 ⇒ 00:05:40.080 Uttam Kumaran: which is tough, because it’s a lot of stuff. But the biggest thing that I want to make clear is like I want to.
54 00:05:40.090 ⇒ 00:05:43.450 Uttam Kumaran: I want you to own not only the
55 00:05:43.630 ⇒ 00:05:49.669 Uttam Kumaran: like roadmap, but also the execution. What you can rely on me on is for feedback
56 00:05:49.710 ⇒ 00:05:53.260 Uttam Kumaran: 100%. And then for, like what the goals are, and then
57 00:05:54.260 ⇒ 00:05:55.200 Uttam Kumaran: basically
58 00:05:55.620 ⇒ 00:06:02.360 Uttam Kumaran: any help we need on budget or recruiting or partnerships or vendors like out there,
59 00:06:02.810 ⇒ 00:06:03.470 Joshua de Veyra: Okay.
60 00:06:03.470 ⇒ 00:06:05.749 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m trying to hand over as much
61 00:06:05.870 ⇒ 00:06:28.190 Uttam Kumaran: control, but also know that, like, I’m not like going anywhere. We’re still talking about everything and the goal initially is just to have a week or 2 weeks of solid plan before we can start. And then we have ways of getting that emotion. Right? So I’ll have you think about. Do I need to meet with Anne and Ryan weekly to like work on blog stuff? Do I need to meet with Ericsson Weekly. Do we need to meet every day?
62 00:06:28.190 ⇒ 00:06:45.049 Uttam Kumaran: So those guys are are on your disposal so you can meet with them every single day. You can meet with them multiple times a day. You can, whatever you need to get the work done. That’s part of the shared services model. Right? So I want to hand you all those resources, because the biggest thing is right. Now, those guys are blocked by me.
63 00:06:45.464 ⇒ 00:06:55.909 Uttam Kumaran: Because I don’t have time to meet. So I want you to basically say, like, whatever you need to get it done, they’re great. They’ll listen to whatever we need. And so I think that’s like a great initial start.
64 00:06:57.620 ⇒ 00:07:05.040 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s plan on that. Maybe we can. If you wanna write some of this down or think about where we want to organize this stuff.
65 00:07:05.408 ⇒ 00:07:08.112 Uttam Kumaran: That would be great. The other thing is
66 00:07:08.460 ⇒ 00:07:12.909 Uttam Kumaran: on the people side everything should stay the same. The only thing is, Patrick.
67 00:07:13.273 ⇒ 00:07:21.770 Uttam Kumaran: It’s gonna be in a little bit of a smaller role, mainly helping on recruiting, for now. I know I don’t know if you interacted much.
68 00:07:22.074 ⇒ 00:07:34.580 Uttam Kumaran: With him, anyways. But that’s just a little bit of an update there and then. Yeah, I think the goal on the AI side really is. I want the big milestone for me would be bringing on Casey. And then having you, basically.
69 00:07:34.680 ⇒ 00:07:42.760 Uttam Kumaran: you know, start to have him execute the work, and then you can continue to execute the work, but also think about, you know, larger picture. So
70 00:07:42.800 ⇒ 00:07:45.330 Uttam Kumaran: those are kind of like all the thoughts on my side.
71 00:07:47.510 ⇒ 00:07:48.174 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.
72 00:07:49.030 ⇒ 00:07:53.749 Joshua de Veyra: yeah, I’ve already. Okay, that’s that’s a lot to break down. Yes.
73 00:07:54.946 ⇒ 00:07:59.940 Joshua de Veyra: But yeah, I’ve already spoken with. What’s his name? Sorry there’s so many.
74 00:07:59.940 ⇒ 00:08:00.640 Uttam Kumaran: Sense.
75 00:08:01.525 ⇒ 00:08:01.890 Joshua de Veyra: Eric’s.
76 00:08:01.890 ⇒ 00:08:02.270 Uttam Kumaran: Bryan.
77 00:08:02.270 ⇒ 00:08:03.880 Joshua de Veyra: And Ryan. Yeah, cool.
78 00:08:05.042 ⇒ 00:08:16.820 Joshua de Veyra: So, Ryan. We agree that I’ll send him probably by end of day today. Basically the interview thing on what cause. I explained to him, basically what we did for Vitaco, the importance and stuff like that.
79 00:08:16.830 ⇒ 00:08:23.100 Joshua de Veyra: I did want to consult with you about one thing, though. Do we want to share the technology that we used or no.
80 00:08:23.280 ⇒ 00:08:31.950 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I want, I definitely want to. I want to share the technology. Here’s why. Because when we do the blog post, we’re going to tag the vendors.
81 00:08:32.190 ⇒ 00:08:40.410 Uttam Kumaran: and then they’re gonna re republish it and repost it. So I definitely want to tag them. I would say the I I think we? I don’t know if we
82 00:08:41.630 ⇒ 00:08:47.329 Uttam Kumaran: I mean I think we could. I don’t I? The only thing I’m nervous about is if we should say we did it for vitaco or not.
83 00:08:50.381 ⇒ 00:08:51.990 Joshua de Veyra: Does the contract say weekend.
84 00:08:52.710 ⇒ 00:08:56.899 Uttam Kumaran: No, yeah, I would say, just just do it, whatever. Who gives a fuck, whatever?
85 00:08:58.350 ⇒ 00:09:09.790 Uttam Kumaran: I can’t like. Just listen to rules. We’re just figuring stuff out. So let’s just go ahead. And and yeah, record the interview I can. I’m I was gonna work on a prompt for chat. Gpt voice.
86 00:09:09.940 ⇒ 00:09:10.845 Uttam Kumaran: basically.
87 00:09:11.900 ⇒ 00:09:18.549 Uttam Kumaran: but yeah, I want basic. I want, like, I don’t know if you have any thoughts on like, are you just gonna do it in chat, Gpt voice.
88 00:09:20.610 ⇒ 00:09:21.936 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, he’d
89 00:09:22.630 ⇒ 00:09:32.570 Joshua de Veyra: Ryan sent me like an interview stuff today, but I’m still configuring some stuff out because I didn’t know I wanted to consult with you first, st if we wanna.
90 00:09:32.680 ⇒ 00:09:33.520 Joshua de Veyra: you know.
91 00:09:34.377 ⇒ 00:09:38.439 Joshua de Veyra: mentioned the technologies that we used.
92 00:09:38.440 ⇒ 00:09:43.309 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, mention everything like in the interview. Mention everything because you can scrub it later.
93 00:09:44.250 ⇒ 00:09:44.900 Joshua de Veyra: Okay. Okay.
94 00:09:44.900 ⇒ 00:09:53.659 Uttam Kumaran: So the way. So the way it works is on chat, Gpt voice, you can basically do it on your phone. And you can just say, Hey, I want you like. Here’s the
95 00:09:53.980 ⇒ 00:09:57.010 Uttam Kumaran: I want you to interview me about this topic.
96 00:09:57.699 ⇒ 00:10:04.249 Uttam Kumaran: Here’s like, here’s the general structure of the project. Ask me 10 questions or so.
97 00:10:04.310 ⇒ 00:10:18.620 Uttam Kumaran: and then it’ll ask you one question after another. It’s nice, because you can just answer them. And then basically, I hand that over to Ryan, and then he writes it. These are like short blog posts. These are like, you know, one or 2 pages. So it’s not that big, and then he repurposes and publishes it. So
98 00:10:18.690 ⇒ 00:10:20.070 Uttam Kumaran: it’s perfect.
99 00:10:22.780 ⇒ 00:10:23.620 Joshua de Veyra: Okay. Yeah.
100 00:10:23.620 ⇒ 00:10:26.790 Uttam Kumaran: I mean eventually. What we’ll do is we’ll have our we can have like a voice
101 00:10:26.820 ⇒ 00:10:31.419 Uttam Kumaran: agent with like that can use rag and do stuff. But I it’s obviously works pretty well
102 00:10:31.872 ⇒ 00:10:35.549 Uttam Kumaran: the new. And so and also make sure it’s your chat. Gpt is updated.
103 00:10:36.420 ⇒ 00:10:37.140 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah.
104 00:10:37.140 ⇒ 00:10:50.490 Uttam Kumaran: Because the new voice is good. So yeah, that’s the biggest thing. The other thing is I’ll start a channel between me and Nico. And then we can plan out how we want to meet and structure stuff. But basically, I think it’s gonna be.
105 00:10:51.050 ⇒ 00:10:52.190 Uttam Kumaran: it’s gonna
106 00:10:52.210 ⇒ 00:10:59.530 Uttam Kumaran: the the thing I learned about this sort of like work is, my job is to hand as much over and then find out what breaks
107 00:10:59.933 ⇒ 00:11:14.019 Uttam Kumaran: so there may be a week or 2 of like weirdness. So don’t get worried. But I definitely like, want to lean into you because I think you’re you’re crushing, and I want to give you as much ownership over.
108 00:11:14.280 ⇒ 00:11:24.975 Uttam Kumaran: That’s part of the company as possible, right? And that’s everything. And so what we’ll decide. We’ll also start to decide like what the budget is headcount and stuff like that as we go.
109 00:11:25.550 ⇒ 00:11:45.950 Uttam Kumaran: but that’ll that’ll be up to me, and and I’ll I’ll actually have time to go and make those decisions. And then, similarly, between me, you and Nico, I want us 3 to be making. You know most of the decisions together in terms of like higher level decisions about structuring or clients or things like that. Nico will have the same responsibilities in terms of working with the content folks and things like that. So
110 00:11:46.604 ⇒ 00:11:48.506 Uttam Kumaran: I’m really excited.
111 00:11:49.270 ⇒ 00:11:53.459 Uttam Kumaran: yeah. And then anything else. Before maybe we talk about some of the client work.
112 00:11:55.410 ⇒ 00:11:56.200 Joshua de Veyra: Oh.
113 00:11:56.740 ⇒ 00:11:59.550 Joshua de Veyra: alright! What else did we miss anything?
114 00:12:01.450 ⇒ 00:12:05.730 Joshua de Veyra: No, I think that’s it. I’ll send you a message just in case we, if there is.
115 00:12:06.060 ⇒ 00:12:06.444 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
116 00:12:07.190 ⇒ 00:12:09.530 Uttam Kumaran: So then, on the Hpi stuff.
117 00:12:09.560 ⇒ 00:12:12.480 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, Scott sent like a little bit of a
118 00:12:12.890 ⇒ 00:12:14.730 Uttam Kumaran: sketch on what he wanted.
119 00:12:15.122 ⇒ 00:12:19.060 Uttam Kumaran: I haven’t looked at it yet. But what do you think you looked at it?
120 00:12:21.320 ⇒ 00:12:21.800 Joshua de Veyra: I know. Yeah.
121 00:12:21.800 ⇒ 00:12:22.160 Uttam Kumaran: I’m.
122 00:12:22.160 ⇒ 00:12:22.730 Joshua de Veyra: Mine.
123 00:12:22.730 ⇒ 00:12:25.609 Uttam Kumaran: I’m nervous about spending like way too much time on it.
124 00:12:28.090 ⇒ 00:12:29.020 Uttam Kumaran: But also.
125 00:12:29.020 ⇒ 00:12:36.919 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, it’s a bit because I think what basically he wants to happen is
126 00:12:37.160 ⇒ 00:12:38.630 Joshua de Veyra: already, you know.
127 00:12:39.110 ⇒ 00:12:40.660 Joshua de Veyra: something built.
128 00:12:40.770 ⇒ 00:12:45.580 Joshua de Veyra: But this, I think this one. We have to actually code a lot and react and stuff like that.
129 00:12:45.730 ⇒ 00:12:48.330 Uttam Kumaran: Can we use like replict agent to like
130 00:12:48.710 ⇒ 00:12:50.260 Uttam Kumaran: build some of it?
131 00:12:50.450 ⇒ 00:12:51.399 Uttam Kumaran: Or is it gonna be.
132 00:12:51.400 ⇒ 00:12:52.360 Joshua de Veyra: Too much work.
133 00:12:52.650 ⇒ 00:12:55.439 Joshua de Veyra: He’s more concerned about the ui from the looks of it.
134 00:12:55.440 ⇒ 00:13:00.239 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he’s only concerned with the Ui, cause we are the cause. The back end stuff works.
135 00:13:00.690 ⇒ 00:13:06.119 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, like I don’t. I don’t think he even cares about the entire cause. I don’t think he understands. In the 1st place.
136 00:13:06.450 ⇒ 00:13:08.010 Uttam Kumaran: No, he gets it, he gets it.
137 00:13:10.570 ⇒ 00:13:13.829 Uttam Kumaran: He just wants a scorecard like he just wants that like visual
138 00:13:14.280 ⇒ 00:13:18.530 Uttam Kumaran: cause. The cause, the cause. Hpi, they’re gonna have no idea how the back end works.
139 00:13:18.910 ⇒ 00:13:19.610 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.
140 00:13:20.520 ⇒ 00:13:25.429 Joshua de Veyra: I mean, yeah, it’s kind. It’s a bit of a limbo of financials. Right?
141 00:13:27.060 ⇒ 00:13:31.690 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, we can also delay it like if we. If we can’t get it this month, then we can delay it.
142 00:13:31.930 ⇒ 00:13:35.829 Uttam Kumaran: cause I for me. For me. Most more important is
143 00:13:35.880 ⇒ 00:13:40.309 Uttam Kumaran: getting the stuff done on the sales side and getting you ramped up.
144 00:13:40.670 ⇒ 00:13:44.170 Uttam Kumaran: Because maybe, if like, do you think that’s so. There’s something Casey could do.
145 00:13:46.370 ⇒ 00:13:47.670 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, the
146 00:13:48.180 ⇒ 00:13:49.000 Joshua de Veyra: well.
147 00:13:49.120 ⇒ 00:13:50.620 Joshua de Veyra: Paul.
148 00:13:50.670 ⇒ 00:13:54.780 Joshua de Veyra: cause this is a a bit more on the Ui side, so we probably need the web dev.
149 00:13:55.780 ⇒ 00:13:56.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
150 00:13:57.530 ⇒ 00:14:12.459 Joshua de Veyra: And then we’ll we’ll have to configure basically an agent to return instead of, you know, a text response, we have to configure it to return something like a Json response. Because this is multiple information, right?
151 00:14:14.710 ⇒ 00:14:15.130 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
152 00:14:15.130 ⇒ 00:14:20.530 Joshua de Veyra: So yeah, so it’s a bit yeah, I think this is gonna be a bit complicated.
153 00:14:21.570 ⇒ 00:14:22.590 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let’s
154 00:14:24.400 ⇒ 00:14:28.459 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s lay out what we need. And then I’m gonna talk to Scott and be like, Hey, we
155 00:14:28.700 ⇒ 00:14:32.780 Uttam Kumaran: we probably need a web developer to do something like this. Gonna take more time.
156 00:14:35.750 ⇒ 00:14:39.800 Joshua de Veyra: I mean, I could do it definitely. But it’s gonna take. Probably it’s gonna take a while.
157 00:14:40.820 ⇒ 00:14:46.500 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, no, I don’t. I just can’t. I just can’t afford to have you working on this for free right now.
158 00:14:47.750 ⇒ 00:14:48.570 Joshua de Veyra: No.
159 00:14:49.960 ⇒ 00:14:54.830 Joshua de Veyra: and I think there’s just too much opportunity on the target side of things.
160 00:14:57.080 ⇒ 00:14:57.710 Uttam Kumaran: And we’re.
161 00:14:57.710 ⇒ 00:15:01.079 Joshua de Veyra: What’s the name of that guy that you that we met
162 00:15:01.310 ⇒ 00:15:02.999 Joshua de Veyra: the gallery version up there.
163 00:15:03.680 ⇒ 00:15:04.490 Uttam Kumaran: Bush Guy.
164 00:15:06.322 ⇒ 00:15:08.019 Joshua de Veyra: The one about the dating app guy.
165 00:15:08.820 ⇒ 00:15:10.280 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah. Nick.
166 00:15:10.610 ⇒ 00:15:12.410 Joshua de Veyra: Is he still with us or not? Anymore.
167 00:15:12.590 ⇒ 00:15:18.850 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but I mean dude, I don’t. Some people. So a lot of my friends. They come to me with ideas all the time.
168 00:15:20.730 ⇒ 00:15:27.697 Uttam Kumaran: But I people got to put their money where their mouth is like. If they want to build it, we can build it for them and not for free, like.
169 00:15:27.930 ⇒ 00:15:28.630 Joshua de Veyra: Definitely.
170 00:15:28.630 ⇒ 00:15:29.420 Uttam Kumaran: So.
171 00:15:29.420 ⇒ 00:15:32.149 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, cause that that one. I think we could.
172 00:15:32.390 ⇒ 00:15:33.370 Joshua de Veyra: you know.
173 00:15:34.732 ⇒ 00:15:48.499 Joshua de Veyra: I’m not sure I’m just speaking in terms of income like we could charge him basically an Mvp. Fee. And then we can tell him, you know, from this point, or you don’t actually need to waste more money if you don’t like this. Mvp. Right?
174 00:15:49.230 ⇒ 00:15:50.150 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I, I can.
175 00:15:50.150 ⇒ 00:15:50.999 Joshua de Veyra: How does that sound.
176 00:15:51.980 ⇒ 00:15:57.019 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll ask him what he thinks, but he needs to come with like a plan, and everything like I don’t have time to scope it all out for him.
177 00:15:57.680 ⇒ 00:15:58.770 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
178 00:16:03.210 ⇒ 00:16:06.300 Joshua de Veyra: And I’ll also try to find more clients.
179 00:16:06.730 ⇒ 00:16:10.750 Joshua de Veyra: Cause I, I see, like a lot of job postings. Maybe I can recommend us.
180 00:16:10.900 ⇒ 00:16:20.549 Uttam Kumaran: No, the I would say, the biggest thing is, try to get. Do that all through, Erickson, cause you’re not. You’re gonna really not like to do anything manually is gonna take so much time to trust me.
181 00:16:20.970 ⇒ 00:16:39.429 Uttam Kumaran: So make sure if you have job postings that you’re like, this would be things that we should apply for. Send it to Erickson, and say, make sure that these end up in the campaign, and that these, like the filters you put on the campaign include these ones? That’s the best thing you can do, because those campaigns are going to run when we sleep like. That’s what we want.
182 00:16:39.670 ⇒ 00:16:40.460 Uttam Kumaran: Yep.
183 00:16:44.330 ⇒ 00:16:45.450 Joshua de Veyra: Okay, yeah.
184 00:16:47.810 ⇒ 00:16:50.339 Joshua de Veyra: So Hpi will bench for now.
185 00:16:51.580 ⇒ 00:16:54.340 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Hbo, let’s bench for now. I wanna.
186 00:16:54.340 ⇒ 00:16:57.040 Joshua de Veyra: Vitaco. I’m not sure what to do there next. To be honest.
187 00:16:57.040 ⇒ 00:17:04.690 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, so we’re we’re we actually were going back and forth with our It department. I just got access to Ftp.
188 00:17:04.770 ⇒ 00:17:13.089 Uttam Kumaran: And then but it was. There was some connection issues. So I just got some info. It’s basically blocked on me. So I’m working on it right now. Once we get
189 00:17:13.280 ⇒ 00:17:16.759 Uttam Kumaran: the Ftp working locally. I can send you all the details.
190 00:17:16.780 ⇒ 00:17:19.239 Uttam Kumaran: and then basically, we’ll need to. We’ll need to
191 00:17:19.319 ⇒ 00:17:22.639 Uttam Kumaran: run Ftp in some cloud job.
192 00:17:23.270 ⇒ 00:17:23.949 Uttam Kumaran: You know.
193 00:17:24.630 ⇒ 00:17:29.219 Uttam Kumaran: and then Whitelist, whatever that IP is. But we’re basically on the finish line there. I think.
194 00:17:30.740 ⇒ 00:17:38.760 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, okay, yeah. Cause I was like thinking about this earlier, right? Cause if we’re gonna offer this to like some clients, well, we can’t really show.
195 00:17:38.850 ⇒ 00:17:42.180 Joshua de Veyra: you know, I don’t think we can show Vitaco working
196 00:17:42.290 ⇒ 00:17:45.970 Joshua de Veyra: like the entire process. So I created like a
197 00:17:46.670 ⇒ 00:17:48.539 Joshua de Veyra: what do you call this? An air table.
198 00:17:48.720 ⇒ 00:17:52.049 Joshua de Veyra: But basically, you know, I just imported the data for now
199 00:17:52.260 ⇒ 00:17:57.589 Joshua de Veyra: and then, basically, it shows you know how many stores are in stock in New York and out of stock.
200 00:17:57.810 ⇒ 00:17:59.639 Joshua de Veyra: I sent it to
201 00:18:00.225 ⇒ 00:18:05.079 Joshua de Veyra: Nicholas earlier, just to have to get his thoughts. Would you like me to share my screen.
202 00:18:05.917 ⇒ 00:18:09.032 Uttam Kumaran: No, I I saw it come in. I’ll check it out. But yeah, that’s fine.
203 00:18:10.460 ⇒ 00:18:18.270 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah. So I think something like cause. Eventually I was thinking, won’t this be more of like a dashboard type of thing?
204 00:18:19.480 ⇒ 00:18:24.000 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I don’t know like again. I don’t want to just build things unless the client wants.
205 00:18:24.000 ⇒ 00:18:24.680 Joshua de Veyra: Said, yeah, yeah.
206 00:18:24.680 ⇒ 00:18:25.730 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So
207 00:18:25.940 ⇒ 00:18:34.770 Uttam Kumaran: the the biggest thing I would say is, make sure all the screenshots or anything you want is in the blog post in the email campaign. We will send the blog post
208 00:18:36.690 ⇒ 00:18:38.469 Uttam Kumaran: that way. People can read it.
209 00:18:42.790 ⇒ 00:18:44.056 Joshua de Veyra: Okay, yeah.
210 00:18:45.130 ⇒ 00:18:47.059 Joshua de Veyra: provide the Co-cos.
211 00:18:47.810 ⇒ 00:18:54.120 Joshua de Veyra: So I just need to configure that code to. It’s we don’t know yet what time they wanted to run right.
212 00:18:54.620 ⇒ 00:18:57.460 Uttam Kumaran: As soon as soon as I get the Ftp. Tested
213 00:18:57.500 ⇒ 00:18:59.700 Uttam Kumaran: I will give you those I’ll give you
214 00:18:59.850 ⇒ 00:19:06.759 Uttam Kumaran: like, okay, this is working, and then we can. We’ll just basically start it at 9 at at 6 am.
215 00:19:06.800 ⇒ 00:19:08.579 Uttam Kumaran: Every day, and then
216 00:19:08.740 ⇒ 00:19:10.590 Uttam Kumaran: make sure the pipeline is working.
217 00:19:10.990 ⇒ 00:19:13.520 Uttam Kumaran: and then we can see what they say.
218 00:19:14.560 ⇒ 00:19:17.460 Joshua de Veyra: Okay? Okay, for deployment. Who’s gonna deploy it.
219 00:19:19.270 ⇒ 00:19:27.519 Uttam Kumaran: that’s the thing I want to. I just need we just, I just need to check what they want to do at that point like, do they want to pay us to have it deployed, or do they want to
220 00:19:27.680 ⇒ 00:19:28.769 Uttam Kumaran: take it over.
221 00:19:29.850 ⇒ 00:19:30.540 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah. Okay. Okay.
222 00:19:30.540 ⇒ 00:19:33.939 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll ask them. Let’s just make sure the whole thing works, and then we can have a meeting.
223 00:19:34.720 ⇒ 00:19:35.859 Joshua de Veyra: Yep. Okay. Okay.
224 00:19:37.200 ⇒ 00:19:40.290 Joshua de Veyra: yeah. Cause the the.
225 00:19:40.340 ⇒ 00:19:44.939 Joshua de Veyra: there’s a probability that’s it’s probably gonna be bigger now, because it’s only New York for now.
226 00:19:44.940 ⇒ 00:19:49.289 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, no, it’ll be way bigger. But then I just want to give them the option on, like what they want to do.
227 00:19:50.930 ⇒ 00:19:53.680 Joshua de Veyra: But if we hand it over to them, would that be, you know.
228 00:19:54.870 ⇒ 00:19:56.430 Joshua de Veyra: less income for us?
229 00:19:58.280 ⇒ 00:20:00.319 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, it’s it’s less about like.
230 00:20:00.390 ⇒ 00:20:04.399 Uttam Kumaran: do they want to run it? If if they can’t run it, then we’ll have to run it, and then host it
231 00:20:04.890 ⇒ 00:20:07.890 Uttam Kumaran: so I don’t know. I have to ask them, because I don’t know. I don’t know yet.
232 00:20:08.550 ⇒ 00:20:09.760 Joshua de Veyra: Okay. Okay. Sure. Sure.
233 00:20:12.500 ⇒ 00:20:13.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Cool. What else?
234 00:20:17.420 ⇒ 00:20:21.940 Joshua de Veyra: I think that’s pretty much it. What about the another client we have is
235 00:20:22.130 ⇒ 00:20:23.500 Joshua de Veyra: the medical guy.
236 00:20:24.280 ⇒ 00:20:29.660 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So he’s working on like, actually, what the campaigns we want to run are.
237 00:20:31.670 ⇒ 00:20:38.929 Uttam Kumaran: that’s the problem is like we don’t have. He’s not a client. He’s actually just like, basically would come in as like the the subject matter, expert
238 00:20:39.160 ⇒ 00:20:40.460 Uttam Kumaran: or medical.
239 00:20:42.780 ⇒ 00:20:48.620 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m hoping that with him and you on the AI side, we can start running some campaigns.
240 00:20:49.113 ⇒ 00:20:56.396 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe I’ll connect you guys. But I’m I just basically need him to start to think about what campaigns we need to run.
241 00:20:56.710 ⇒ 00:21:03.780 Uttam Kumaran: cause. I want to run campaigns around medical so we could start targeting medical hospitals and things like that saying like, Hey, we can do automations for you.
242 00:21:04.123 ⇒ 00:21:14.520 Uttam Kumaran: But again, this, this, all this, all like falls under you. So I wanna I wanna connect you guys. And then, basically, I want you to meet with him. And then basically say, Do we have enough here
243 00:21:14.650 ⇒ 00:21:16.950 Uttam Kumaran: to have a compelling offer
244 00:21:17.130 ⇒ 00:21:20.550 Uttam Kumaran: and create a campaign like, do we have the filters about who we’re targeting?
245 00:21:20.940 ⇒ 00:21:26.330 Uttam Kumaran: So then start one. That’s it. Right? Cause we we can send as many emails as we want
246 00:21:27.870 ⇒ 00:21:34.960 Uttam Kumaran: So the other thing I’ll share is and I’ll I’m just gonna talk to you and Nico about this. We’re starting to use Linkedin for outreach
247 00:21:35.970 ⇒ 00:21:36.690 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, okay.
248 00:21:36.690 ⇒ 00:21:42.610 Uttam Kumaran: So right now, basically, we’re using my linkedin account. We’re sending like 40 connection requests a day.
249 00:21:42.640 ⇒ 00:21:49.099 Uttam Kumaran: I may. I mean, I wanted to ask both of you if you’d be open to using your Linkedin account as well.
250 00:21:49.610 ⇒ 00:21:57.749 Uttam Kumaran: The only thing we’ll probably need to do is start to is just make sure that your linkedin has like brain forge and everything on it. And then
251 00:21:59.740 ⇒ 00:22:05.840 Uttam Kumaran: basically like, yeah, we just Ericsson, just basically as we email people. We also send them a Linkedin connection request.
252 00:22:07.914 ⇒ 00:22:10.590 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sure. I’ll configure it.
253 00:22:11.030 ⇒ 00:22:14.919 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So yeah, I’ll talk. We’ll I’ll talk to Eric. We can talk to Eric since tomorrow morning.
254 00:22:18.808 ⇒ 00:22:22.790 Joshua de Veyra: So our meeting with that guy tomorrow will proceed right.
255 00:22:23.710 ⇒ 00:22:24.430 Uttam Kumaran: What guy?
256 00:22:25.060 ⇒ 00:22:27.510 Joshua de Veyra: The medical guy cause. We have a meeting, I believe, at
257 00:22:28.050 ⇒ 00:22:29.580 Joshua de Veyra: 1115.
258 00:22:29.580 ⇒ 00:22:33.949 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m gonna I’m gonna I’ll send a message now and just say, like I actually would.
259 00:22:34.090 ⇒ 00:22:39.570 Uttam Kumaran: I would maybe like, I don’t know if I’ll make it, I may just have you guys meet or may come for a few minutes.
260 00:22:39.945 ⇒ 00:22:43.190 Uttam Kumaran: But basically, the goal I want to figure out is like.
261 00:22:43.330 ⇒ 00:22:46.219 Uttam Kumaran: who do we want to target? And what can we offer?
262 00:22:46.450 ⇒ 00:22:46.970 Uttam Kumaran: Very.
263 00:22:46.970 ⇒ 00:22:47.999 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
264 00:22:48.000 ⇒ 00:22:55.429 Uttam Kumaran: Right that when you meet with him, though he’s like a he’s like a doctor, and he’s like a Phd. So he’s like Super super smart, but
265 00:22:55.560 ⇒ 00:23:00.720 Uttam Kumaran: he doesn’t have the very specific knowledge of like what we can do. So that’s why we’re teaming up.
266 00:23:00.970 ⇒ 00:23:04.379 Uttam Kumaran: The nice thing is, he has a ton of credibility in medical.
267 00:23:04.560 ⇒ 00:23:15.409 Uttam Kumaran: and then we have. We have the skill set to actually execute. So that’s why I want to work together this main thing again. This has just been blocked by me like we’ve been meeting. Nothing’s been happening. And so, like, I’ve been busy.
268 00:23:15.470 ⇒ 00:23:16.580 Uttam Kumaran: So
269 00:23:17.130 ⇒ 00:23:22.479 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll just hand that to you, and then you just run with it again. You have all of these people at your at your disposal.
270 00:23:24.210 ⇒ 00:23:29.730 Uttam Kumaran: so let’s just rip shit like I just want to try emailing. People try contacting people see what sticks. You know.
271 00:23:30.610 ⇒ 00:23:31.630 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah. Okay. Okay.
272 00:23:35.590 ⇒ 00:23:36.250 Joshua de Veyra: Or whatever.
273 00:23:36.250 ⇒ 00:23:38.436 Uttam Kumaran: And then, I know, like we had, we have
274 00:23:39.114 ⇒ 00:23:49.800 Uttam Kumaran: Ryan on the content side is working on a content brain. We’re working on some stuff with N. 8, and I know Luke is also working on some stuff at any end. So we kind of need to think about like.
275 00:23:50.020 ⇒ 00:23:53.400 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know whether we do an hour on AI every week
276 00:23:53.420 ⇒ 00:23:56.200 Uttam Kumaran: with all the people that want to develop AI stuff
277 00:23:56.300 ⇒ 00:23:59.070 Uttam Kumaran: or like an open like an office hours or something
278 00:23:59.335 ⇒ 00:24:03.270 Uttam Kumaran: but I don’t want people developing like on their own. I want everybody to be learning.
279 00:24:03.310 ⇒ 00:24:05.410 Uttam Kumaran: So we need to think about how, how we do that.
280 00:24:08.060 ⇒ 00:24:08.739 Uttam Kumaran: You know what I mean.
281 00:24:09.320 ⇒ 00:24:10.360 Joshua de Veyra: Yep. Yep.
282 00:24:10.900 ⇒ 00:24:13.590 Uttam Kumaran: Like, do you want to host like office hours or something?
283 00:24:15.746 ⇒ 00:24:21.469 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, possibly. But I kinda have to, you know, know 1st what I’m even gonna say, there.
284 00:24:22.270 ⇒ 00:24:26.030 Uttam Kumaran: No, but it’s more like people can just come in and like, ask questions
285 00:24:26.600 ⇒ 00:24:30.070 Uttam Kumaran: on how to do things. That’s more so. Office hours is more like.
286 00:24:30.200 ⇒ 00:24:41.279 Uttam Kumaran: you know, in like school, or you can just go to ask your professor like after class they have like, hey? Well, I’ll be in my office for an hour. You can come in and ask me any questions. That’s kind of like what it’s like. We just have an open meeting.
287 00:24:41.310 ⇒ 00:24:45.410 Uttam Kumaran: People could come in and ask questions about any of the AI stuff they’re building, because I want
288 00:24:45.860 ⇒ 00:24:47.759 Uttam Kumaran: to be a shared service for everybody.
289 00:24:47.820 ⇒ 00:24:56.999 Uttam Kumaran: So, but but like, for example, Ryan and Luke, they’re not experts. So they’re gonna have a bunch of questions about basic stuff that you could solve in like 5 seconds.
290 00:24:57.020 ⇒ 00:25:00.859 Uttam Kumaran: So I kind of want to have them like talk to you. But this is the problem in that.
291 00:25:00.940 ⇒ 00:25:12.559 Uttam Kumaran: When you’re in a in an Async like remote company like us people are just gonna try on their own. They’re never gonna like speak out. So we have to like, have these meetings where we get it out of people.
292 00:25:12.720 ⇒ 00:25:17.090 Uttam Kumaran: because if we’re in the same room they could turn around and look at you big. Hey? How do you do this? You know, in one second.
293 00:25:17.090 ⇒ 00:25:17.870 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, yeah.
294 00:25:18.010 ⇒ 00:25:21.970 Uttam Kumaran: We have to try to create that same sort of like feeling, you know.
295 00:25:22.913 ⇒ 00:25:27.520 Joshua de Veyra: So far, though. Ryan and Luke the like. We Ryan I’ve
296 00:25:27.600 ⇒ 00:25:33.450 Joshua de Veyra: spoken to like almost every day, Luke. Every time he has a question. He just he asks me.
297 00:25:33.600 ⇒ 00:25:38.899 Joshua de Veyra: So the communications been like, kinda I think it’s because we’re both from the Philippines.
298 00:25:38.900 ⇒ 00:25:42.009 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe the maybe maybe the only thing I’ll ask is that you guys
299 00:25:42.060 ⇒ 00:25:44.039 Uttam Kumaran: DM in the AI Channel
300 00:25:44.150 ⇒ 00:25:48.310 Uttam Kumaran: cause I wanna start, I want to read and learn a little bit about like how everything works, too.
301 00:25:48.350 ⇒ 00:26:02.799 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe I’ll just send a note that that’s the other thing I try to do is like, I don’t. DM, a lot. I mean me and you. DM, sometimes. But even then I’m like, Hey, can we do this? The Channel cause then everybody can see and learn right, because I want and to start doing some AI stuff. Nico can start doing some AI stuff
302 00:26:02.860 ⇒ 00:26:05.820 Uttam Kumaran: right. But if they don’t see it. They’re never gonna know. So.
303 00:26:05.820 ⇒ 00:26:06.560 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.
304 00:26:07.725 ⇒ 00:26:09.860 Uttam Kumaran: But that’s just something to remind.
305 00:26:11.560 ⇒ 00:26:14.609 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah. Okay, yeah. Sure. I think we could start next week. No.
306 00:26:15.706 ⇒ 00:26:16.770 Uttam Kumaran: What do you mean?
307 00:26:17.350 ⇒ 00:26:18.390 Uttam Kumaran: Let me open.
308 00:26:18.390 ⇒ 00:26:18.960 Joshua de Veyra: Channel.
309 00:26:18.960 ⇒ 00:26:19.909 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
310 00:26:22.410 ⇒ 00:26:27.790 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s let’s let me talk. Between, let me start a channel between the 3 of us like me and Nico.
311 00:26:27.850 ⇒ 00:26:29.800 Uttam Kumaran: we’ll start to organize some things.
312 00:26:29.870 ⇒ 00:26:33.149 Uttam Kumaran: You have a bunch of stuff from this meeting, I think, to
313 00:26:33.160 ⇒ 00:26:35.559 Uttam Kumaran: like to do the biggest things again like
314 00:26:35.898 ⇒ 00:26:42.339 Uttam Kumaran: I want to take on the new, the new campaigns. And then let’s let’s just wrap up by the cocoa that’s blocked by me.
315 00:26:42.650 ⇒ 00:26:45.279 Uttam Kumaran: But like, yeah, push on sales and like.
316 00:26:45.430 ⇒ 00:26:50.680 Uttam Kumaran: send also send them Inspo, like, if you see anything in AI, you’re like, Oh, these guys are doing a great job whatever.
317 00:26:50.760 ⇒ 00:26:55.489 Uttam Kumaran: And then also, I can connect us with other companies like, if you want to talk to
318 00:26:55.530 ⇒ 00:27:03.549 Uttam Kumaran: AI people at whatever companies like, let me know, because we can talk to their salespeople. I’m going to start calling some people just getting advice on how we should do it.
319 00:27:03.580 ⇒ 00:27:06.750 Uttam Kumaran: Like if we want to hop back on with the flow matic guys. So.
320 00:27:06.750 ⇒ 00:27:07.350 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.
321 00:27:07.350 ⇒ 00:27:08.389 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, let’s do it.
322 00:27:09.392 ⇒ 00:27:27.250 Joshua de Veyra: I have like a final question. It’s not. It’s more about the AI and automation side, are we still cause? I remember when we 1st talked about the business model and stuff. You did mention that we’re more of like consultancy company, that we’re not really selling a product. Would that still be the same. Now we’re going into AI.
323 00:27:28.200 ⇒ 00:27:32.969 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s gonna be. So. The the tough part is, it’s very hard to do both in one organization.
324 00:27:34.164 ⇒ 00:27:36.879 Uttam Kumaran: Like as you could tell. It’s very hard even for us to do one
325 00:27:37.159 ⇒ 00:27:49.610 Uttam Kumaran: so the biggest thing like I want to figure out is, can we reliably offer it as a service. Once we do that, we can then see. Okay, what are some things that we’re repeating over and over and over. And can we package it as a product.
326 00:27:50.019 ⇒ 00:27:54.300 Uttam Kumaran: But I like the consulting first, st because I don’t have capital to fund
327 00:27:54.580 ⇒ 00:27:57.199 Uttam Kumaran: the product build at the moment. So.
328 00:27:59.300 ⇒ 00:28:00.700 Joshua de Veyra: Between the
329 00:28:01.260 ⇒ 00:28:06.430 Joshua de Veyra: the target. The whole vitaco stuff is kind of done already, which we just copy. Paste it everywhere.
330 00:28:06.430 ⇒ 00:28:10.420 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that that’s exactly what I’m hoping is that we find these opportunities to just reproduce.
331 00:28:10.420 ⇒ 00:28:11.240 Joshua de Veyra: Yes.
332 00:28:11.240 ⇒ 00:28:17.840 Uttam Kumaran: And then we can just charge clients. Once we build up enough of a capital base, we can consider cause, for example, if I have to. If I have to hire
333 00:28:17.890 ⇒ 00:28:20.340 Uttam Kumaran: people to do back end full stack work.
334 00:28:20.410 ⇒ 00:28:22.139 Uttam Kumaran: It’s gonna be a lot of work
335 00:28:22.594 ⇒ 00:28:26.729 Uttam Kumaran: that’s gonna need a dedicated product manager that’s gonna need dedicated sales.
336 00:28:27.310 ⇒ 00:28:29.639 Uttam Kumaran: It quickly becomes a lot bigger of a problem.
337 00:28:30.430 ⇒ 00:28:30.860 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.
338 00:28:30.860 ⇒ 00:28:42.480 Uttam Kumaran: So for me, it’s like, let’s let’s like absolutely gas this part of the business up first, st and then we can talk. I mean, we’ll me, and you will keep talking if you see an opportunity, and then bring it to me, and let’s talk like I don’t mind either way.
339 00:28:43.940 ⇒ 00:28:45.029 Joshua de Veyra: Okay. Okay. Yeah.
340 00:28:48.290 ⇒ 00:28:56.710 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool alright. I gotta finish a couple of things up. But yeah, let me know. Just chat with me in slack, if anything. And then, yeah, I think you have a bunch of stuff. So.
341 00:28:58.122 ⇒ 00:29:00.897 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, you did mention about.
342 00:29:01.580 ⇒ 00:29:07.690 Joshua de Veyra: I think the last thing we haven’t talked about is you mentioned yesterday about the base rate.
343 00:29:08.220 ⇒ 00:29:08.910 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
344 00:29:09.630 ⇒ 00:29:10.689 Uttam Kumaran: So I would be.
345 00:29:10.690 ⇒ 00:29:11.580 Joshua de Veyra: Proceed with that.
346 00:29:11.770 ⇒ 00:29:14.560 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I know, currently, we’re like for your rate.
347 00:29:16.540 ⇒ 00:29:18.350 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so currently, we’re at 15.
348 00:29:18.897 ⇒ 00:29:26.040 Uttam Kumaran: I want to. I want to do some projections about and set set together some milestones about increasing the rate.
349 00:29:26.510 ⇒ 00:29:29.119 Uttam Kumaran: I definitely I definitely want to pay you more.
350 00:29:29.430 ⇒ 00:29:32.239 Uttam Kumaran: Right now we’re just in like a pretty big crunch.
351 00:29:33.950 ⇒ 00:29:38.949 Uttam Kumaran: so let me see, let me come up with a proposal, and let’s talk about it for for next month. If that’s okay.
352 00:29:39.380 ⇒ 00:29:43.499 Uttam Kumaran: so I’ll finish it up by the end of this month, and we can talk about, and then I can draft a new contract.
353 00:29:44.140 ⇒ 00:29:45.440 Joshua de Veyra: Okay. Okay. Yeah. Sure.
354 00:29:45.440 ⇒ 00:29:50.419 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Yeah. That way we can talk about cause I want to just get all the budgets
355 00:29:50.440 ⇒ 00:29:53.060 Uttam Kumaran: correct for both of the sides of the business.
356 00:29:53.373 ⇒ 00:29:59.440 Uttam Kumaran: Like a financial model is for the whole business right now. But I want to have it. So you and Nico have budget
357 00:30:00.930 ⇒ 00:30:05.289 Uttam Kumaran: and then, basically, you guys can govern that as you as you want
358 00:30:05.713 ⇒ 00:30:12.229 Uttam Kumaran: but then also, I wanna make sure that yeah, everybody’s like comfortable with pay, especially the people who are on top right like
359 00:30:12.500 ⇒ 00:30:15.919 Uttam Kumaran: we can. It kind of will live and die with you guys. So.
360 00:30:16.920 ⇒ 00:30:19.059 Joshua de Veyra: Okay, okay, yeah, okay, yeah, that makes sense.
361 00:30:19.060 ⇒ 00:30:19.650 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Cool.
362 00:30:19.650 ⇒ 00:30:20.240 Joshua de Veyra: Hmm
363 00:30:21.162 ⇒ 00:30:24.537 Joshua de Veyra: anything else I need before you go.
364 00:30:25.521 ⇒ 00:30:32.319 Joshua de Veyra: yeah. Regarding the last one salary, Utah. Is it possible to send it through wise this time, because gusto takes around 5 to 10 days.
365 00:30:32.600 ⇒ 00:30:37.909 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I can. I can send it through wise did you already send me the details.
366 00:30:38.500 ⇒ 00:30:41.771 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, yeah, yeah, I’ll just send you my email, my wife’s email. Then I guess.
367 00:30:41.990 ⇒ 00:30:43.889 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, yeah. I’ll set it today.
368 00:30:44.470 ⇒ 00:30:47.020 Joshua de Veyra: Okay, thanks, Uttam. I will
369 00:30:47.170 ⇒ 00:30:49.640 Joshua de Veyra: probably hop on a call back in with Luke.
370 00:30:49.640 ⇒ 00:30:51.096 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Alright. Thank you.
371 00:30:51.720 ⇒ 00:30:53.459 Joshua de Veyra: Thank you. Have a good one. Bye, bye.