Meeting Title: Zoom-Meeting Date: 2024-10-03 Meeting participants: Nicolas Sucari, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:15.350 ⇒ 00:00:16.200 Hey!
2 00:00:16.200 ⇒ 00:00:17.430 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, hey?
3 00:00:17.840 ⇒ 00:00:21.102 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, I mean, seems really straightforward. I think.
4 00:00:22.470 ⇒ 00:00:25.728 Uttam Kumaran: I think overall. We just need to figure out
5 00:00:26.870 ⇒ 00:00:28.300 Nicolas Sucari: You click house bars right.
6 00:00:28.890 ⇒ 00:00:34.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, the click house part and then just kind of set a rough timeline on our side.
7 00:00:34.260 ⇒ 00:00:37.809 Uttam Kumaran: I think what I want to know from Patrick is if he wants to
8 00:00:38.230 ⇒ 00:00:44.729 Uttam Kumaran: like handle the click outside, and then maybe we hand some stuff off to Ryan to do on the actual modeling side
9 00:00:44.830 ⇒ 00:00:49.741 Uttam Kumaran: that actually cause I didn’t know how, what the what the main challenge was gonna be. But
10 00:00:50.870 ⇒ 00:01:02.020 Nicolas Sucari: I mean, they they have pretty specific requirements. So if we if we got access to that Snowflake account with all of the data. It shouldn’t be so difficult to
11 00:01:02.180 ⇒ 00:01:14.570 Nicolas Sucari: create those dimensions, right? Those metrics and dimensions. If the data is correct in those tables. I think the most challenging part will be leveraging in the click house
12 00:01:14.908 ⇒ 00:01:22.080 Nicolas Sucari: part on how to integrate everything. But I think it’s it’s not that difficult. So I’ve been reading a lot of click house. And
13 00:01:22.200 ⇒ 00:01:24.537 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, I mean, it seems so so cool.
14 00:01:25.940 ⇒ 00:01:28.030 Nicolas Sucari: The app of the processes.
15 00:01:29.230 ⇒ 00:01:33.599 Uttam Kumaran: I think Snowflake to Click House. We’ll just have to figure out like how to best do that.
16 00:01:35.960 ⇒ 00:01:40.549 Uttam Kumaran: it looks like they you can just use S. 3. So yeah, that’ll be really easy for them.
17 00:01:40.610 ⇒ 00:01:41.849 Uttam Kumaran: Had to do.
18 00:01:42.530 ⇒ 00:01:43.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yep.
19 00:01:46.442 ⇒ 00:01:48.129 Nicolas Sucari: But yeah, I think.
20 00:01:48.230 ⇒ 00:01:51.229 Nicolas Sucari: do you have like a weekly meeting with them, or
21 00:01:51.370 ⇒ 00:01:51.940 Nicolas Sucari: like this.
22 00:01:51.940 ⇒ 00:01:53.790 Uttam Kumaran: Which is kind of thinking
23 00:01:54.780 ⇒ 00:01:56.840 Uttam Kumaran: as soon as he sends stuff.
24 00:01:56.870 ⇒ 00:01:58.590 Uttam Kumaran: and we give him
25 00:01:59.220 ⇒ 00:02:12.200 Uttam Kumaran: the level of effort. I mean, it looked like on their thing. They basically wanted a month. That seems okay. I think basically, it would give them a level of effort. And then I’ll ask if we can start a channel between all of us.
26 00:02:12.250 ⇒ 00:02:13.310 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
27 00:02:13.800 ⇒ 00:02:25.829 Uttam Kumaran: again, I think the big thing on your side is just yeah, we we can just make sure that Pat can handle. And then I think, ideally, Ryan can probably take on the actual model building.
28 00:02:27.310 ⇒ 00:02:33.449 Uttam Kumaran: because right now he’s just working like 4 or 6 h on on pool parts. So hopefully, this will be the
29 00:02:33.540 ⇒ 00:02:37.232 Uttam Kumaran: rest of the time, and then yeah, let me see if
30 00:02:41.130 ⇒ 00:02:41.609 Uttam Kumaran: he has 2.
31 00:02:43.060 ⇒ 00:02:50.879 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, we just met with Kim with Ryan. Meeting went. Very good. Also, we are still working on some
32 00:02:51.250 ⇒ 00:02:55.270 Nicolas Sucari: conversion stuff, trying to figure out why the numbers are different.
33 00:02:55.440 ⇒ 00:03:01.980 Nicolas Sucari: each of the tools. And we already managed to find why, post clavier and
34 00:03:02.755 ⇒ 00:03:07.319 Nicolas Sucari: attendee are doing something different. Also Facebook. There are different kinds.
35 00:03:07.320 ⇒ 00:03:07.800 Uttam Kumaran: Welcome back!
36 00:03:07.800 ⇒ 00:03:09.830 Nicolas Sucari: And we already
37 00:03:10.344 ⇒ 00:03:15.369 Nicolas Sucari: talk with Kim about what what she needs. And yeah, we’re getting there. We just need.
38 00:03:15.420 ⇒ 00:03:15.940 Uttam Kumaran: To work.
39 00:03:15.940 ⇒ 00:03:19.749 Nicolas Sucari: Work on Google and Postpilot now, and it will be ready.
40 00:03:20.190 ⇒ 00:03:20.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
41 00:03:22.260 ⇒ 00:03:25.610 Uttam Kumaran: okay, cool. And then, did I tell you I’m gonna be out next week?
42 00:03:26.450 ⇒ 00:03:27.830 Nicolas Sucari: Oh, no. Okay.
43 00:03:29.090 ⇒ 00:03:29.720 Nicolas Sucari: No. Problem.
44 00:03:29.720 ⇒ 00:03:36.959 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, this is a complete. I mean, like what? It’s just been insane. But yeah, I’m going to be out next week on like vacation vacation.
45 00:03:37.170 ⇒ 00:03:37.975 Uttam Kumaran: Nice.
46 00:03:38.800 ⇒ 00:03:39.780 Uttam Kumaran: I told
47 00:03:40.320 ⇒ 00:03:45.063 Uttam Kumaran: I told some people I didn’t tell everybody, but I’ll probably I’ll tell everybody tomorrow.
48 00:03:45.420 ⇒ 00:03:49.009 Uttam Kumaran: but for the most part I think we’re in okay shape.
49 00:03:49.100 ⇒ 00:03:50.173 Uttam Kumaran: I think.
50 00:03:51.410 ⇒ 00:03:57.090 Uttam Kumaran: the only thing I need to do is make sure that we have enough like blog content to go out next week. But I think
51 00:03:57.120 ⇒ 00:04:07.087 Uttam Kumaran: we’ve done like 2 weeks of that. So that’s getting better, I think, across all 3 clients. Things are fine. The only that’s why, I kind of wanted to see if we can
52 00:04:07.410 ⇒ 00:04:14.059 Uttam Kumaran: push this real stuff like, get it. Get that estimate this week so that maybe we can start next week.
53 00:04:15.470 ⇒ 00:04:20.469 Uttam Kumaran: But apart from that, yeah, I mean, I’ll have my phone. But I I’m gonna try to actually
54 00:04:20.570 ⇒ 00:04:23.210 Uttam Kumaran: zone out taking a vacation
55 00:04:25.360 ⇒ 00:04:31.099 Uttam Kumaran: in a long time. In a long time we’re going to go. I’m going to Alaska so.
56 00:04:31.330 ⇒ 00:04:32.340 Nicolas Sucari: Nice.
57 00:04:33.180 ⇒ 00:04:33.950 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, on a cruise.
58 00:04:33.950 ⇒ 00:04:36.249 Nicolas Sucari: A little bit of hiking our cruise.
59 00:04:36.410 ⇒ 00:04:40.210 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah on a cruise. So yeah, we’ll do some hiking and some like sightseeing. But
60 00:04:40.575 ⇒ 00:04:45.284 Uttam Kumaran: just to try to do some reading and like zone out. But yeah, I’ll probably just ask if you can.
61 00:04:46.330 ⇒ 00:04:51.239 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, really, it was like, I this week on Tuesday. I was like, I think I told legal last week.
62 00:04:52.185 ⇒ 00:04:57.549 Uttam Kumaran: And yeah, but so yeah, hopefully, it’s but I think it should be okay. I think.
63 00:04:57.550 ⇒ 00:04:58.389 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, yeah, I think.
64 00:04:58.390 ⇒ 00:05:00.909 Uttam Kumaran: You run the Monday Friday stuff, and then
65 00:05:01.150 ⇒ 00:05:01.750 Uttam Kumaran: I think.
66 00:05:01.750 ⇒ 00:05:03.050 Nicolas Sucari: We’re okay. Yeah.
67 00:05:03.050 ⇒ 00:05:09.360 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, you basically are in everything, anyway. So you see, like, we’re wherever people are pinging me, it’s the same stuff, anyway. So
68 00:05:10.057 ⇒ 00:05:12.120 Uttam Kumaran: I think if there’s just decisions.
69 00:05:12.150 ⇒ 00:05:17.760 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll try to log in once a day and just answer anything. But I I think everything else is totally fine.
70 00:05:18.220 ⇒ 00:05:25.429 Nicolas Sucari: You know the only thing that I don’t know how we can like make some. Our progress is with the Hpi.
71 00:05:26.289 ⇒ 00:05:27.020 Nicolas Sucari: Stuff!
72 00:05:27.260 ⇒ 00:05:30.400 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know if we are waiting on anything
73 00:05:30.610 ⇒ 00:05:31.679 Nicolas Sucari: from them.
74 00:05:32.318 ⇒ 00:05:35.530 Nicolas Sucari: Because we already created like the agent
75 00:05:35.790 ⇒ 00:05:39.880 Nicolas Sucari: and that kind of stuff. So I don’t know if Miguel is still working on something for Hbi.
76 00:05:41.250 ⇒ 00:05:58.080 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I oh, for hps! I had a good meeting with them yesterday. Send the latest asks we, haven’t. We have time like again, they’re not paying us. So we have maybe one more step before I think we’re ready to do a demo
77 00:05:58.444 ⇒ 00:06:03.150 Uttam Kumaran: and then I think, basically, at that point. Me you and him I need to meet.
78 00:06:03.520 ⇒ 00:06:09.947 Uttam Kumaran: because we need to pretty much come to the table with like what a proposal would be in terms of like
79 00:06:10.740 ⇒ 00:06:12.519 Uttam Kumaran: hours and budget
80 00:06:15.050 ⇒ 00:06:24.849 Nicolas Sucari: I I think, like depending on what is your request like? There should be some kind of engineering work to create those agents, but then it’s kind of support.
81 00:06:25.230 ⇒ 00:06:27.130 Nicolas Sucari: right? It’s kind of trying to.
82 00:06:27.130 ⇒ 00:06:33.796 Uttam Kumaran: Well, it’s this is gonna I think this is gonna expand in a couple of ways. One is like, we have
83 00:06:34.980 ⇒ 00:06:35.900 Uttam Kumaran: like
84 00:06:36.150 ⇒ 00:06:39.248 Uttam Kumaran: one like I even took some notes yesterday. Let me check
85 00:06:41.290 ⇒ 00:06:42.760 Uttam Kumaran: one. We took.
86 00:06:44.250 ⇒ 00:07:03.040 Uttam Kumaran: We just are working on 2 different legal clauses. We’re gonna work on almost like probably 4 to 6 different ones. There’s gonna be multi agents. The second thing is, I don’t know whether they’re gonna use relevance as a Ui, so they may want to use email they may want to use like a custom. Ui.
87 00:07:04.990 ⇒ 00:07:09.050 Uttam Kumaran: you know, the 3rd thing is like data security. I don’t know whether they want
88 00:07:09.240 ⇒ 00:07:13.020 Uttam Kumaran: everything going to relevance, so we may need to
89 00:07:13.080 ⇒ 00:07:17.430 Uttam Kumaran: use something that’s more open source. But again, like these are the things I’m thinking about, for, like
90 00:07:17.470 ⇒ 00:07:20.290 Uttam Kumaran: the current Mvp. And the phase one.
91 00:07:20.600 ⇒ 00:07:21.180 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, that’s okay.
92 00:07:21.180 ⇒ 00:07:24.839 Uttam Kumaran: There’s a couple of things there. The second thing is, we’re gonna this is gonna become like
93 00:07:24.920 ⇒ 00:07:27.270 Uttam Kumaran: we need someone to sit with like, do almost like
94 00:07:27.570 ⇒ 00:07:33.840 Uttam Kumaran: sit with the customer, have them try it out like, do. So that all stuff is gonna take a lot of time.
95 00:07:33.990 ⇒ 00:07:48.349 Uttam Kumaran: I think at at minimum. We we at least probably need someone working someone like in Miguel’s capacity working on this every day. And then someone like on the I mean, it’s either gonna be your time, or we need to consider
96 00:07:48.500 ⇒ 00:07:52.600 Uttam Kumaran: project management like basically having someone under you for like
97 00:07:52.950 ⇒ 00:07:58.339 Uttam Kumaran: running the project communications and stuff like that. So that’s why I want to allocate enough budget
98 00:07:59.880 ⇒ 00:08:01.589 Uttam Kumaran: for me to be able to
99 00:08:02.050 ⇒ 00:08:04.769 Uttam Kumaran: at least have like one full time engineer on it.
100 00:08:04.850 ⇒ 00:08:06.159 Uttam Kumaran: and then
101 00:08:06.190 ⇒ 00:08:09.899 Uttam Kumaran: have someone who can work together requirements with a client.
102 00:08:10.130 ⇒ 00:08:33.751 Uttam Kumaran: Both of us will be there. But like, I just think there’s this is gonna be particularly a large one, and the goal is to work on the next phases. So that’s why I think as soon as we’re at a good point with this initial phase, I want to cut it. And then basically consider what we’re gonna do for the demo. And then talk about what the future phases are from Miguel, I’m gonna look to ask, like, what we want? What? What is the
103 00:08:35.030 ⇒ 00:08:43.360 Uttam Kumaran: Basically. What’s the scope of the engineering side? We need to accomplish the next phases, and then on your side, I think I just want to know, like, do we need to bring in
104 00:08:43.390 ⇒ 00:08:47.040 Uttam Kumaran: like a part time? Pm, or someone to kind of help
105 00:08:47.552 ⇒ 00:08:53.510 Uttam Kumaran: meet with a client. Gather requirements. Give that to Miguel. Handle the delivery right? That cycle
106 00:08:55.410 ⇒ 00:09:00.692 Uttam Kumaran: which I’m fine with. I I just wanna know, and then cause that cause, because then that that’s what
107 00:09:01.840 ⇒ 00:09:07.159 Uttam Kumaran: we’re gonna have to decide how much money to ask right? And then the company making a margin on top of that, so.
108 00:09:07.390 ⇒ 00:09:07.900 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
109 00:09:07.900 ⇒ 00:09:10.194 Uttam Kumaran: That’s what I have to try to budget for.
110 00:09:10.750 ⇒ 00:09:16.789 Uttam Kumaran: But at the same at the same time the demo went really really well. Both the folks that were in the meeting.
111 00:09:17.444 ⇒ 00:09:23.945 Uttam Kumaran: Scott, and another guy who’s a CTO friend of his were impressed.
112 00:09:24.600 ⇒ 00:09:30.559 Uttam Kumaran: I think basically what the goal is gonna be is the front of the product is going to be like a scorecard.
113 00:09:30.971 ⇒ 00:09:40.929 Uttam Kumaran: It’s gonna be like, here are the 10 clauses. Here’s the change they propose, and here’s like the Yes or no recommendation, and then the client themselves can go and click and see
114 00:09:41.040 ⇒ 00:09:48.979 Uttam Kumaran: why was it recommended, or they can look to see summaries that’s gonna be the front. And then they can go into drill into like the reasoning
115 00:09:49.040 ⇒ 00:09:53.029 Uttam Kumaran: right? And so that’s kind of the the overall concept of what we’re gonna go for.
116 00:09:53.280 ⇒ 00:09:56.719 Uttam Kumaran: We’re gonna wanna come to the table with, yeah? So like, I think.
117 00:09:56.720 ⇒ 00:09:59.760 Nicolas Sucari: Feels like a big product. I mean, developing.
118 00:09:59.760 ⇒ 00:10:00.120 Uttam Kumaran: Sure.
119 00:10:00.120 ⇒ 00:10:02.830 Nicolas Sucari: Really, nice. Product. Yeah, so yeah, cool.
120 00:10:03.150 ⇒ 00:10:08.319 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think we’re gonna come. And then I want to come to the table with like stuff on data security and things like that, for example.
121 00:10:08.580 ⇒ 00:10:14.559 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know whether we’re gonna use relevance as a front end. But Miguel is working with this tool called MAN, which is like open source
122 00:10:15.470 ⇒ 00:10:20.129 Uttam Kumaran: Asian builder. So I’ve been having him play with that this week. And yeah, so.
123 00:10:20.130 ⇒ 00:10:34.659 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, he was asking. He was asking me if we have, like any lead with a lot of pages that he can like try to use. I’m not sure but I told him to ask you or Roy maybe so that he can start trying out the that sales have.
124 00:10:35.220 ⇒ 00:10:35.940 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m meeting with.
125 00:10:36.320 ⇒ 00:10:38.720 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna give him a bunch of feedback on that.
126 00:10:39.920 ⇒ 00:10:40.690 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
127 00:10:41.300 ⇒ 00:11:02.729 Nicolas Sucari: Nice. Yeah. So maybe we can wait for next steps for that. Because if yeah, I think Miguel is still working with by the cocoa. We just ask Eddie again for that white lace type. I mean, if you’re gonna not gonna be next week around, maybe we can. I don’t know what we need to do. If you’re not with your IP, maybe we can ask for
128 00:11:02.920 ⇒ 00:11:03.660 Nicolas Sucari: another icon.
129 00:11:03.660 ⇒ 00:11:07.130 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Which is why I would say, people just wireless your IP
130 00:11:07.420 ⇒ 00:11:08.330 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, okay.
131 00:11:08.330 ⇒ 00:11:09.700 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s fine.
132 00:11:09.700 ⇒ 00:11:10.010 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know.
133 00:11:12.080 ⇒ 00:11:22.059 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, let’s let’s see if he answers today. And if we gotta yeah, we can move forward and see what are the next steps there, but for now, like we don’t have like any other answer for it.
134 00:11:22.650 ⇒ 00:11:23.270 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
135 00:11:23.270 ⇒ 00:11:23.830 Nicolas Sucari: Right.
136 00:11:24.580 ⇒ 00:11:25.240 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
137 00:11:25.770 ⇒ 00:11:29.660 Nicolas Sucari: Gonna jump to the chat meeting and yeah, let’s talk later. Okay.
138 00:11:29.660 ⇒ 00:11:31.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Alright, thanks. Icon. Bye.