Meeting Title: Stella Weekly Regroup Date: 2024-08-27 Meeting participants: Nicolas Sucari, Uttam Kumaran, Nick Baker, Robert Tseng


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1 00:00:11.780 00:00:14.689 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, Nico! I’ll I’ll just be here in the background.

2 00:00:18.170 00:00:19.489 Nicolas Sucari: Are you done? Okay?

3 00:00:19.730 00:00:20.480 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

4 00:00:25.550 00:00:27.669 Nicolas Sucari: Sorry. I just forgot I had this

5 00:00:27.760 00:00:28.940 Nicolas Sucari: appointment.

6 00:00:29.240 00:00:33.279 Nicolas Sucari: It was so long ago that I scaled it.

7 00:00:34.040 00:00:35.520 Uttam Kumaran: No, you’re totally fine.

8 00:01:42.490 00:01:43.710 Robert Tseng: Hey, guys.

9 00:01:44.830 00:01:46.260 Nick Baker: Yo! How’s it going.

10 00:01:47.120 00:01:48.860 Nicolas Sucari: Hey, Robert, Hi, guys!

11 00:02:02.600 00:02:04.000 Robert Tseng: Are we waiting for anyone else.

12 00:02:06.550 00:02:10.470 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t think so. I think we’re all here. Yeah. Putin’s here. Nick’s here.

13 00:02:10.740 00:02:12.157 Robert Tseng: Okay. I don’t.

14 00:02:12.630 00:02:16.420 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know if Patrick’s joining. But yeah, maybe we can get started.

15 00:02:16.560 00:02:17.220 Robert Tseng: Okay.

16 00:02:18.286 00:02:22.969 Robert Tseng: yeah, we’ll just jump into it. Let me just share my screen. We can try to talk through things.

17 00:02:26.200 00:02:33.250 Robert Tseng: so yeah, maybe 1st thing is, yeah. Thanks, Nick, for hopping on that thread. I was just like, what is going on. Why is this not

18 00:02:33.850 00:02:41.360 Robert Tseng: feel like you’ve asked me the same question like 5 times, and thought we were fixing it. But then it’s not fixed. I think you’re right. It’s not on our end. It’s

19 00:02:42.153 00:02:49.239 Robert Tseng: I mean. I even went back to the 5, the 5 tran for the for the connector on

20 00:02:49.280 00:02:53.320 Robert Tseng: as fab fraud. I I re I retested it. It looks fine.

21 00:02:54.018 00:02:55.530 Robert Tseng: I think. What I’ve

22 00:02:55.750 00:02:58.707 Robert Tseng: what I just found out was that

23 00:03:00.240 00:03:05.099 Robert Tseng: they, the engineering team like, changed their deployment process or something.

24 00:03:05.370 00:03:06.880 Robert Tseng: and they didn’t make

25 00:03:07.130 00:03:19.209 Robert Tseng: some of the fields in the in the schema, even though it’s the same schema like nothing really changed just something about it. If the columns are not accessible. So if you look here, you can’t even select any of these.

26 00:03:20.620 00:03:21.810 Robert Tseng: So

27 00:03:22.090 00:03:24.899 Robert Tseng: I think that’s that’s like the problem, like.

28 00:03:25.060 00:03:28.050 Robert Tseng: when when we’re actually running the refresh like.

29 00:03:28.060 00:03:31.559 Robert Tseng: I don’t even really know what’s refreshing. It’s probably nothing cause

30 00:03:32.640 00:03:38.325 Robert Tseng: that’s why the refresh is probably taking like under a minute. But it’s not actually pulling in any of these.

31 00:03:39.480 00:03:43.707 Robert Tseng: like, we can’t. Yeah, we can’t actually capture any data from these tables. So

32 00:03:45.060 00:03:57.090 Robert Tseng: yeah. So anyway, I think that’s kind of out of our hands, for now, if anything, I just kind of brought that back up to them and they have to. They have to fix that. So I think we’re okay on on that, for now.

33 00:04:00.290 00:04:00.990 Nick Baker: Okay.

34 00:04:01.440 00:04:02.120 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

35 00:04:02.360 00:04:03.000 Nick Baker: Cool.

36 00:04:03.160 00:04:04.240 Nick Baker: that makes sense.

37 00:04:05.830 00:04:12.559 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, I don’t. I don’t know if there is there like a way that we can kind of just tell the engineering team like.

38 00:04:12.800 00:04:21.000 Robert Tseng: hey, when you make changes like this that are gonna affect downstream data tables like we need to know? I feel like we’re always just like reacting to

39 00:04:21.360 00:04:24.689 Robert Tseng: something’s broken. We try to fix it. And then, like.

40 00:04:25.300 00:04:32.120 Robert Tseng: turns out, it’s it’s something else that happened further upstream that we had no idea what was going on.

41 00:04:33.050 00:04:42.119 Robert Tseng: yeah, like, I, I don’t know. Is there is there something? Is there like a like a typical process or best practice that I can go back to them and be like

42 00:04:42.660 00:04:44.510 Robert Tseng: if anything affects

43 00:04:44.720 00:04:47.490 Robert Tseng: XY, and Z. Things like you need to let us know.

44 00:04:51.969 00:05:02.439 Nick Baker: I think I mean, for I’m gonna have to defer to the other guys on the call just because I haven’t used fivetran enough to know exactly what kind of changes they’re making on their side. That could be an issue. I think the only thing I can think of

45 00:05:02.935 00:05:13.230 Nick Baker: that we could do to mitigate would be having freshness testing on our side. So if we see that the data is older than something we could at least be like, all right. Y’all like

46 00:05:13.914 00:05:20.500 Nick Baker: we’re not getting updated data, because, like, this is a weird, silent error where it was not like. There’s no error in the sync.

47 00:05:20.510 00:05:32.860 Nick Baker: but it wasn’t pulling anything new. So yeah, we could set up some freshness testing. But I don’t know what I’d say. Like you, Tom or Nico, if you guys know what kinds of changes could lead to something like this where you get this sort of dead sync process that’d be helpful.

48 00:05:33.220 00:05:34.280 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

49 00:05:34.580 00:05:42.869 Uttam Kumaran: like, this is kind of always just kind of like a stupid issue. Usually, if there’s like database changes or things like that

50 00:05:43.466 00:05:44.560 Uttam Kumaran: I mean.

51 00:05:45.210 00:05:51.390 Uttam Kumaran: like, usually, there’s just like a migration process, or there’s like some line of communication. I mean

52 00:05:51.420 00:05:53.050 Uttam Kumaran: ideally.

53 00:05:53.070 00:06:02.510 Uttam Kumaran: whatever. If they have like. The 1st question I would ask them is, Do they have like a distro list? Or is there some sort of a communication path that we can get

54 00:06:02.610 00:06:06.179 Uttam Kumaran: our side into when there are dB, changes like this.

55 00:06:06.260 00:06:09.671 Uttam Kumaran: The second thing, which is more

56 00:06:10.560 00:06:12.010 Uttam Kumaran: kind of like just

57 00:06:12.580 00:06:17.040 Uttam Kumaran: choosing like a hammer. For this problem is just like try to set up a monthly with them.

58 00:06:17.070 00:06:19.060 Uttam Kumaran: Where, we just ask.

59 00:06:19.290 00:06:21.980 Uttam Kumaran: Are there is there anything we should be aware of?

60 00:06:23.590 00:06:26.180 Uttam Kumaran: The second one, again, is like

61 00:06:26.280 00:06:32.459 Uttam Kumaran: kind of like a brute force method. The 1st one is the more ideal, Robert. I’d probably suggest both of those.

62 00:06:32.460 00:06:32.840 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

63 00:06:32.840 00:06:36.069 Uttam Kumaran: Don’t have a current process which could be the case.

64 00:06:36.190 00:06:42.030 Uttam Kumaran: Then it’s like, Can we just get with them at the start of every month and be like, is there anything you guys expect?

65 00:06:42.401 00:06:45.718 Uttam Kumaran: The last thing I’ll say is, yeah, I’ll double click on

66 00:06:46.410 00:06:56.629 Uttam Kumaran: Next point we will. We will add source freshness tests on our side. The only thing that we’ll need is like, just understand, hey, are these going to be updating every day?

67 00:06:56.891 00:07:02.639 Uttam Kumaran: Because the problem is, if if we have alerts going off a lot, and we’re like, actually, this is going to be a take a week.

68 00:07:02.810 00:07:04.119 Uttam Kumaran: This is, gonna take a little bit longer.

69 00:07:04.120 00:07:04.890 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

70 00:07:05.088 00:07:08.070 Uttam Kumaran: I just wanna make sure that we’re not getting a bunch of alerts, you know.

71 00:07:13.890 00:07:23.924 Robert Tseng: I mean, I would say that not everything here is changing on a daily basis. I mean, I would assume, like quoting is happening on a nearly daily basis.

72 00:07:25.380 00:07:28.240 Robert Tseng: yeah, like, that’s their main product activity. So

73 00:07:28.400 00:07:34.290 Robert Tseng: and we’ve we’ve kind of looked at like, I, I have some reports on like product usage that show

74 00:07:34.690 00:07:44.880 Robert Tseng: that actually shows like the user, a typical user maybe quotes like, twice a week, or something like that. So maybe we just do a week. We just start with like weekly tests.

75 00:07:46.026 00:07:47.020 Robert Tseng: Just like.

76 00:07:47.110 00:07:51.080 Robert Tseng: you know. Yeah, I feel like that. That’d be good enough. Maybe daily is not necessary.

77 00:07:51.080 00:07:51.640 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

78 00:07:53.320 00:07:55.830 Robert Tseng: yeah, I feel like that would make sense.

79 00:07:55.830 00:08:10.999 Uttam Kumaran: Then let’s do that, because at the moment all the jobs are are running. So that’s 1 thing, and then we’ll, Nico. Let’s create an issue we could just add source freshness for. And and I think, Nick, you’ve you’ve done that before. So this would be pretty

80 00:08:11.130 00:08:14.259 Uttam Kumaran: simple to do, and we’ll just look for the 5 trans synced

81 00:08:14.380 00:08:17.540 Uttam Kumaran: column, and then we’ll just set the sla at a week.

82 00:08:17.680 00:08:21.120 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I think, Barbara, if you can just ask them.

83 00:08:21.330 00:08:24.209 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, maybe just a meeting once a month.

84 00:08:24.280 00:08:24.845 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah,

85 00:08:26.510 00:08:27.720 Uttam Kumaran: just like.

86 00:08:27.990 00:08:31.229 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, or something like that might might just solve this. You know.

87 00:08:32.390 00:08:33.140 Robert Tseng: Okay.

88 00:08:33.970 00:08:44.959 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah. I mean, I feel like, as long as I have a next step to. Just like, let them know. Like, okay, well, this is what we’re going to do to prevent it in future. I feel like, you know, there’s nothing they can more they can really say. So I feel good about that.

89 00:08:47.070 00:08:58.819 Robert Tseng: okay, so I mean outstanding things. This last week of the month. We’re trying to renew this contract trying to extend them through the end of the year. So I know maybe the things that we have in flight will just wrap up. And then

90 00:09:01.030 00:09:07.649 Robert Tseng: yeah, I mean, I would like your guys support on like kind of scoping out the new work to be done.

91 00:09:08.460 00:09:20.269 Robert Tseng: So I’ve talked about like a couple of new Etl requests just bringing in Maxio data. We haven’t moved on that there Maxio owner hasn’t even given me like the access that I need there. So

92 00:09:20.570 00:09:24.039 Robert Tseng: I guess we’ll just assume that is part of the next batch of work.

93 00:09:24.417 00:09:30.309 Robert Tseng: I think we have a couple kind of just we could just knock out anything that’s outstanding here.

94 00:09:30.709 00:09:34.329 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean this active customer summary. I think this is

95 00:09:35.450 00:09:41.800 Robert Tseng: done until we get the updated data. But I mean switching. The source was all we really needed there.

96 00:09:41.870 00:09:43.350 Robert Tseng: So that makes sense

97 00:09:43.450 00:09:55.358 Robert Tseng: on the quote value with parts. I think, Nick, we’re almost there here. I know you updated everything to inner joins, and that pretty much I haven’t. I haven’t tested anymore to see if there’s any other

98 00:09:56.180 00:10:05.450 Robert Tseng: quotes that are falling through. But I would say that we’re pretty much there, like there are only 40 kind of like 40 quotes left that I think we’re

99 00:10:05.540 00:10:15.110 Robert Tseng: not caught based on the previous filters that we added. So I think that’s that’s on me to get your feedback there so we can

100 00:10:15.130 00:10:16.300 Robert Tseng: close that out.

101 00:10:17.860 00:10:26.270 Robert Tseng: yeah, I guess we talked about organizing code structure. So I think it’d be good to maybe just tie it back to

102 00:10:26.550 00:10:30.889 Robert Tseng: kind of re re update like the Stella team with like.

103 00:10:30.940 00:10:39.869 Robert Tseng: Hey, these are the tables that we have for you to access the metabase like kind of, and then have that reintroduction be with

104 00:10:40.360 00:10:42.359 Robert Tseng: like the

105 00:10:42.770 00:10:46.839 Robert Tseng: with with some of the organizational changes you guys had in mind.

106 00:10:47.403 00:10:55.050 Robert Tseng: Because it looks like this is pretty much the same as what it has been so not sure if you guys kind of made any progress on that side.

107 00:10:55.540 00:11:00.620 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we’re meeting on Friday to just talk about the whole structure again. I think it’s good to.

108 00:11:00.770 00:11:10.109 Uttam Kumaran: you know. Probably do one of those every month as well, Nick, where we just look through. And we’re like, Hey, we built a bunch of models and let’s just go through and like.

109 00:11:10.240 00:11:38.925 Uttam Kumaran: drop old stuff. And you know we did a big push on that I think last month the month before, but after Friday we you should have an update on like, basically like the lay of the land at the moment. So we’re we’re kind of having a little bit of back and forth on how we want to do the folder structures. There should be some more documentation coming out, and then hopefully have at least something you can hand over. That’s basically how to navigate the repo and how to navigate the the database

110 00:11:39.230 00:11:43.259 Uttam Kumaran: And you know, ideally it’d be great also to to share with them

111 00:11:43.500 00:12:04.750 Uttam Kumaran: the code as well like if they’re interested, or if they have, Github accounts, love for them to get added there that way, they can see that? Yeah, they’re not. They’re probably not going to be contributing. But just so they can kind of tie back the sequel logic to the table. And then, of course, back to Metabase. If they’re down for that. That could be a nice request after Friday, or if you’re talking to them this week.

112 00:12:05.120 00:12:05.860 Robert Tseng: Okay.

113 00:12:06.040 00:12:14.859 Robert Tseng: yeah. I mean, I’m trying to talk to them this week. I think I have a call with the main like with with Lindsey, the main sponsor on on Friday. So

114 00:12:15.365 00:12:20.320 Robert Tseng: yeah, I mean was trying to get her earlier in the week. But looks like we probably won’t.

115 00:12:20.510 00:12:25.159 Robert Tseng: I think we’ll end up having that conversation, the extension conversation on Friday, and then

116 00:12:25.410 00:12:33.709 Robert Tseng: I mean, with how slow they move on contract signing, and everything. It probably would take a week from there to to really get to keep to get that done.

117 00:12:35.150 00:12:40.080 Robert Tseng: which? Yeah, I think that’s kind of what I’m expecting. Timeline wise.

118 00:12:40.605 00:12:49.569 Robert Tseng: But yeah, I think every time I mentioned to you, I’d like to start kind of putting together like a new proposal on like, okay, what? The next 3 weeks look like or not. 3 weeks, 3 months.

119 00:12:50.146 00:13:04.530 Robert Tseng: It really looks like we’re starting to move more downstream towards like some of these custom reporting requests. So like, you know, it doesn’t look like there, you know, we’re going to bring in Maxio. But that seems like the only new data sources coming in.

120 00:13:05.103 00:13:27.980 Robert Tseng: I know there’s more like product data to model and ingest. But I think what they need really is just to track usage on their product for Svab, like they have no visibility into how users are using it. They don’t have amplitude set up on that side of the house yet. So I I want that to be like my, I mean that that’s gonna probably be one of the projects that I’m gonna highlight for them.

121 00:13:28.150 00:13:29.750 Robert Tseng: because I think that’s gonna

122 00:13:29.770 00:13:33.880 Robert Tseng: open doors to like other reporting that that we need

123 00:13:35.210 00:13:44.789 Robert Tseng: instructional. The Lnd team asked for something like they wanted to bring in Circle community. They actually got shot down. So that’s why I haven’t followed up on that, Nico. I don’t know.

124 00:13:44.790 00:13:45.850 Uttam Kumaran: What is that?

125 00:13:46.834 00:13:49.619 Robert Tseng: It’s like a community platform. It’s.

126 00:13:49.620 00:13:50.490 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.

127 00:13:51.880 00:13:54.450 Robert Tseng: Yeah, something that they started just to try to

128 00:13:55.730 00:13:57.560 Robert Tseng: understand.

129 00:13:57.920 00:14:03.090 Robert Tseng: It’s like a wiki, I guess, for like S. Fab product knowledge. And then

130 00:14:03.150 00:14:06.370 Robert Tseng: I don’t know like they have all their users here

131 00:14:06.600 00:14:11.000 Robert Tseng: trying to like jump in here and like comment and whatnot. But

132 00:14:11.690 00:14:15.219 Robert Tseng: yeah, I I guess they’re they just launched this like

133 00:14:15.450 00:14:18.450 Robert Tseng: end of July. So I think

134 00:14:20.120 00:14:29.500 Robert Tseng: eventually, they’re gonna want to know, like, are people who are active in this community like using their product. More like, I imagine that’s probably where the

135 00:14:29.590 00:14:33.259 Robert Tseng: the line question is going to. But for now, like this is not

136 00:14:33.300 00:14:34.580 Robert Tseng: like I’m gonna make

137 00:14:34.660 00:14:36.660 Robert Tseng: it. It’s not been

138 00:14:38.250 00:14:41.659 Robert Tseng: They haven’t. They haven’t given the green light to to bring this data in.

139 00:14:41.800 00:14:47.482 Robert Tseng: I didn’t see it in in 5, Tran, either, so I don’t really even know how you guys would bring it in right now. But

140 00:14:47.970 00:14:49.330 Robert Tseng: but yeah, so

141 00:14:52.750 00:14:53.430 Robert Tseng: okay.

142 00:14:54.850 00:14:55.490 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.

143 00:14:55.920 00:14:59.860 Nicolas Sucari: can, can we have access to this? Community.

144 00:15:00.060 00:15:01.480 Robert Tseng: I,

145 00:15:02.920 00:15:04.280 Robert Tseng: yeah, I mean, these guys.

146 00:15:04.280 00:15:04.660 Nicolas Sucari: Or not.

147 00:15:04.780 00:15:10.709 Robert Tseng: You guys have Stella accounts or a couple of you do so I can just have her add, you guys, if you want to look at this

148 00:15:10.840 00:15:12.510 Robert Tseng: data out.

149 00:15:13.430 00:15:19.149 Nicolas Sucari: I mean, but the the is there like any question there that the people do, that we need to look into.

150 00:15:19.290 00:15:25.119 Nicolas Sucari: or some like data related stuff that we need to be aware of there or not.

151 00:15:26.690 00:15:27.309 Robert Tseng: What do you.

152 00:15:27.310 00:15:27.890 Nicolas Sucari: Think.

153 00:15:29.750 00:15:36.800 Robert Tseng: I mean, for now, like I I don’t think there’s anything really going on here like I said, it’s just like a wiki right now, like.

154 00:15:37.280 00:15:39.640 Robert Tseng: I guess they want to track like.

155 00:15:39.680 00:15:44.580 Robert Tseng: which articles are users viewing and and all that stuff. But

156 00:15:45.390 00:15:46.580 Robert Tseng: I

157 00:15:47.090 00:15:49.560 Robert Tseng: yeah, I think they’re they’re they just.

158 00:15:51.130 00:15:57.759 Robert Tseng: I’ve like I’ve scoped this. I’ve scoped it out here, but it just has not gotten any traction. So I I just like pause on that.

159 00:15:57.760 00:15:58.310 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

160 00:15:58.550 00:15:59.290 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

161 00:16:00.940 00:16:04.520 Robert Tseng: Like, I think they built a course for like Intro to their product.

162 00:16:04.610 00:16:08.170 Robert Tseng: And then, like, yeah, they’re trying to like host some

163 00:16:09.280 00:16:11.720 Robert Tseng: discussion boards or something. But

164 00:16:12.890 00:16:20.889 Robert Tseng: yeah, I mean, I guess it is kind of active, but there’s nobody. These are all S. Fab people that none of their users really seem to be using this.

165 00:16:24.260 00:16:26.230 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, don’t worry. Then I think.

166 00:16:27.790 00:16:30.530 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, these are all internal employees. Right? Now.

167 00:16:33.030 00:16:33.840 Robert Tseng: yeah.

168 00:16:38.890 00:16:42.789 Robert Tseng: okay. Anything else here?

169 00:16:54.550 00:17:07.800 Robert Tseng: Yeah. I mean, I don’t know. I guess. Maybe we can just brainstorm a bit like from guys like, well, beyond, like, just modeling the data like, what what else can we expand into? I feel like, yeah, I mean, there’s not much coming your way in the next

170 00:17:08.020 00:17:10.960 Robert Tseng: week or 2 weeks, for now, like we, we have.

171 00:17:11.660 00:17:21.377 Robert Tseng: we have some work to to do on like scoping out these analyses doing the amplitude, event tracking and implementation.

172 00:17:22.339 00:17:23.770 Robert Tseng: but yeah, like, I guess

173 00:17:23.800 00:17:26.430 Robert Tseng: I’m not. And I mean, I’m not really sure.

174 00:17:27.630 00:17:34.690 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think the I think the biggest thing is one I want to get through like this organization and stuff. And then maybe we can

175 00:17:35.020 00:17:38.140 Uttam Kumaran: meet next week and kind of plan out

176 00:17:38.300 00:17:40.476 Uttam Kumaran: like next models. Yeah,

177 00:17:41.190 00:18:02.090 Uttam Kumaran: I think there is like, especially if like, they want to explore real, or if we want to continue to do more stuff on the reporting side, I think we can spend some time and just basically get the if you can just kind of hit us with a laundry list of questions we can kind of think about. Okay, are these currently tackled within models? And on what else we want to develop towards.

178 00:18:02.090 00:18:02.460 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

179 00:18:02.460 00:18:05.080 Uttam Kumaran: And that can be like the short term thing for September.

180 00:18:05.370 00:18:06.030 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

181 00:18:09.890 00:18:10.770 Robert Tseng: okay.

182 00:18:13.040 00:18:26.990 Robert Tseng: yeah. I mean, I think, inevitably, as I’m kind of building these reporting requests out, we’re gonna it was gonna come, we’re gonna need some new models for for those. So I think that’ll be part of that list that we that we come up with.

183 00:18:28.580 00:18:32.330 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe let’s take next Tuesday’s meeting to like review

184 00:18:32.350 00:18:37.190 Uttam Kumaran: the Dbt source freshness and just make sure that that’s in

185 00:18:37.230 00:18:47.329 Uttam Kumaran: to talk about like whatever we want to hand off for the like structure of the repo, and like getting them github access. And then also we can

186 00:18:47.540 00:18:49.308 Uttam Kumaran: spend time talking about

187 00:18:50.600 00:18:51.839 Uttam Kumaran: Like modeling

188 00:18:52.420 00:18:54.550 Uttam Kumaran: for September.

189 00:18:54.780 00:18:55.480 Robert Tseng: Okay.

190 00:18:56.440 00:19:06.530 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, if you could just come with with questions, then we can basically take. And I could, those can be short term or longer term, we can take those and then basically begin to to plan it out.

191 00:19:06.710 00:19:07.340 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

192 00:19:08.820 00:19:09.590 Robert Tseng: Cool.

193 00:19:09.720 00:19:10.730 Robert Tseng: Sounds good.

194 00:19:13.920 00:19:20.479 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Alright, if nothing else. Thanks everyone. We’ll talk soon.

195 00:19:20.640 00:19:23.640 Robert Tseng: Alright! Thank you. Bye.