Meeting Title: Uttam <> Osman—DS-LLM-Opportunity Date: 2024-08-09 Meeting participants: Jo Z, Uttam, Osman Ghandour
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1 00:01:00.260 ⇒ 00:01:01.380 Uttam: Hey? Guys, good morning.
2 00:01:01.540 ⇒ 00:01:03.009 Osman Ghandour: Hey, Tom, how are you.
3 00:01:03.010 ⇒ 00:01:04.330 Uttam: Hey? Good! How are you?
4 00:01:04.510 ⇒ 00:01:05.510 Osman Ghandour: It’s good.
5 00:01:06.052 ⇒ 00:01:10.037 Osman Ghandour: Yeah, I’m not sure if you’ve met Joe Joe’s my co-founder.
6 00:01:10.400 ⇒ 00:01:11.549 Uttam: Hey, Joe, nice to meet you.
7 00:01:13.140 ⇒ 00:01:14.350 Jo Z: Hey likewise.
8 00:01:15.890 ⇒ 00:01:19.140 Osman Ghandour: So yeah, otam? How’s how are things going.
9 00:01:19.370 ⇒ 00:01:27.079 Uttam: Good I’m actually just traveling traveled yesterday, but I’m in New Hampshire today for a wedding.
10 00:01:27.080 ⇒ 00:01:27.530 Osman Ghandour: Oh, cool!
11 00:01:28.450 ⇒ 00:01:42.409 Uttam: So apologize. Just camera off. I just have to find a place to go. But I’m excited to chat. Actually, I think there’s there’s some opportunity here. But also, I think,
12 00:01:42.860 ⇒ 00:01:51.360 Uttam: you know, it’s it’s great to kind of have something and continue to learn about kind of like your your guys skill set and see if there’s something we can work on.
13 00:01:51.390 ⇒ 00:01:53.780 Uttam: Yeah, so maybe I’ll just
14 00:01:53.800 ⇒ 00:01:58.250 Uttam: jump right into. I think hopefully, maybe you’ve given Joe a little bit of background on.
15 00:01:58.250 ⇒ 00:02:00.830 Osman Ghandour: Yeah, I sent him the message that you had sent me. Yeah. So.
16 00:02:00.830 ⇒ 00:02:01.540 Uttam: Okay, perfect.
17 00:02:01.540 ⇒ 00:02:02.260 Osman Ghandour: Yeah.
18 00:02:02.260 ⇒ 00:02:28.219 Uttam: Okay, cool. So yeah, I mean, on on our side, you know, we we typically have support for folks that need to do like data, science, and more stuff on like data modeling or data engineering, but kind of working one working with stuff on the like Llm side in terms of kind of like. What they labeled isn’t really our complete skill set. Additionally, I actually met with the client. And
19 00:02:28.260 ⇒ 00:02:42.860 Uttam: the way like I kind of discuss them is like, look, you know, my company primarily has, like a lot of senior onshore talent. So like the data scientists that I would kind of pair with that sort of project. I mean, they’re definitely going to be pretty pricey
20 00:02:44.470 ⇒ 00:03:08.339 Uttam: And so what he was asking was like, Hey, do you guys have any offshore talent. And the thing that he proposed is like, hey, let me see if I can actually carve the project I need out as like a 3 month contract or so. He’s gonna give me the timeline and a budget and then kind of just see like, is there? Can you guys staff something around here? You know.
21 00:03:08.340 ⇒ 00:03:09.680 Osman Ghandour: Give me just more context.
22 00:03:09.680 ⇒ 00:03:10.050 Uttam: Yeah.
23 00:03:10.050 ⇒ 00:03:19.709 Osman Ghandour: Who the client is, what they’re what they’re doing like. Is it a 1 person team, a 5 person team like for them that like, what’s, how does their organization structure look like
24 00:03:20.050 ⇒ 00:03:21.219 Osman Ghandour: what’s going on.
25 00:03:21.690 ⇒ 00:03:27.960 Uttam: Yeah. So our our client is the CTO. This company, called Veratech Veratech, is like a legal AI startup.
26 00:03:28.730 ⇒ 00:03:35.898 Uttam: basically, they have. They’re focused on doing some sort of legal AI contract
27 00:03:36.720 ⇒ 00:03:40.320 Uttam: like contract analysis in the medical space. So.
28 00:03:40.320 ⇒ 00:03:40.700 Osman Ghandour: Got it.
29 00:03:40.700 ⇒ 00:04:05.672 Uttam: Part of this role is around leveraging output results from like Ocr and a few other like document scanning methods to basically run Llms and basically enable search. One of the big things that we talked about was enabling, you know what he describes like relevancy. But basically, I’m trying to identify documents that related to a topic one of the examples that we discussed even deeper.
30 00:04:06.090 ⇒ 00:04:08.832 Uttam: not sure exactly like what the
31 00:04:09.520 ⇒ 00:04:26.819 Uttam: what the injury he he described. But, for example, you would search, you know, for a specific type of operation or a specific type of cancer. And you would get like related documents related to that these documents would be things like medical receipts, insurance policies, things like that. So
32 00:04:26.900 ⇒ 00:04:31.350 Uttam: there’s partly like this medical component. I actually don’t think that’s like
33 00:04:31.400 ⇒ 00:04:47.457 Uttam: hugely needed in terms of like a skill set, but it’s all around like document Ocr, and you know, like semantic search, and being able to find, you know, basically bring up relevant documents. The company is a small company.
34 00:04:47.860 ⇒ 00:04:49.989 Uttam: but the CTO
35 00:04:50.770 ⇒ 00:04:55.140 Uttam: has, you know, has leveraged a lot of outside contractors in the past for work.
36 00:04:56.550 ⇒ 00:05:10.950 Uttam: and so the one thing that I still owe you guys and you know, we just had our initial conversation on Wednesday is like budget and timeline, and a little bit of a you know more in depth proposal. But I thought I’d just, you know. See if if this is something that’s up your alley.
37 00:05:10.950 ⇒ 00:05:21.869 Osman Ghandour: So thanks so much for reaching out. I think, Joe, I think we’ve we’ve done a lot of this type of relevancy stuff. We’ve built a few different recommendation engines in the past. Joe can. Do you want to talk a little bit about that?
38 00:05:25.140 ⇒ 00:05:33.050 Jo Z: Yeah, I mean, we’ve done. We’ve done some stuff around tickets. And and okay, it was more for analytic stuff.
39 00:05:33.660 ⇒ 00:05:44.506 Jo Z: like the tickets that come into a help desk like finding relevant tickets, finding some relevant material scoring those things, you know, fetching them back. And you know.
40 00:05:44.890 ⇒ 00:05:53.392 Jo Z: there’s also been like new stuff coming up in the past few weeks. That that could be that, you know, I really interested in exploring. But
41 00:05:54.500 ⇒ 00:05:57.979 Jo Z: yeah, definitely a longer alley. And
42 00:05:58.800 ⇒ 00:05:59.550 Jo Z: yeah.
43 00:06:00.870 ⇒ 00:06:08.629 Uttam: Okay, great. I mean, kind of just like, I guess, speaking more concretely, like, what are the typical structures of those projects like?
44 00:06:08.830 ⇒ 00:06:11.559 Uttam: If he comes back to me, for example, with like, Hey, we have
45 00:06:11.650 ⇒ 00:06:16.500 Uttam: this sort of requirements, and we have like this budget for this length. Is that enough to kind of get a quote
46 00:06:16.530 ⇒ 00:06:19.539 Uttam: from y’all. And then, if you guys can give me
47 00:06:19.590 ⇒ 00:06:24.909 Uttam: like even a sense of like a range in terms of like what would be appropriate that way.
48 00:06:24.990 ⇒ 00:06:46.580 Uttam: I can go back to him and to give you a sense of what he was kind of like. Okay, that’s going to be too much. But my, my guys are going to be at least 150 plus an hour here in the States. So that that was the one that he was kind of like, okay, that’s kind of a little bit out of our budget. He was like, Do you guys have offshore talent. But I mean, would love to kind of discuss that candidly with you guys like, what do you guys think.
49 00:06:46.960 ⇒ 00:06:55.390 Osman Ghandour: Yeah, I think for me before talking about like specific numbers. I’m curious more about like how how we want to structure this thing. Do we
50 00:06:55.620 ⇒ 00:06:58.430 Osman Ghandour: do? We want to make it so that we are
51 00:06:58.500 ⇒ 00:07:06.919 Osman Ghandour: basically acting as a partner of yours. We’re or he. He doesn’t even talk to us. He just talks to you and you. You’re the, you know, we’re I basically
52 00:07:07.100 ⇒ 00:07:15.199 Osman Ghandour: subcontracting for you. And like, part of you know which we’re happy to do. Yeah, how does that? How does that? That’s the structure that we’re talking about? Right?
53 00:07:15.200 ⇒ 00:07:30.910 Uttam: Yeah, I I think that’s the ideal structure again, on on my side, basically, that would be ideal is if it’s basically a subcontract. I I want to kind of discuss both, actually, because I think there’s opportunity for both where there’s going to be deals that are like completely
54 00:07:30.920 ⇒ 00:07:43.949 Uttam: out of our realm, and I can just pass them to you. And then maybe we do some sort of referral structure. But ideally, on this one, I think if you guys have the talent, then, like a subcontracting kind of opportunity, would be great. We do have.
55 00:07:43.960 ⇒ 00:07:50.440 Uttam: you know, project management, resources and other resources on our side. But again, I kind of need to get a sense from him on like.
56 00:07:50.460 ⇒ 00:07:56.110 Uttam: does he need? That is, he? Does he just need talent? And so. But yeah, that’s the ideal structure here.
57 00:07:56.110 ⇒ 00:08:06.919 Osman Ghandour: No, that that makes a lot of sense. And when it comes to the actual like engineering management, that’s something. If I mean, since we’re gonna we would be the ones doing the work that that we want to handle.
58 00:08:07.190 ⇒ 00:08:07.640 Uttam: Okay.
59 00:08:07.957 ⇒ 00:08:15.900 Osman Ghandour: And and so for us, that’s pretty important. And so the engineering oversight and management and so it would be basically, me and Joe.
60 00:08:16.624 ⇒ 00:08:19.360 Osman Ghandour: Working with you on
61 00:08:20.040 ⇒ 00:08:27.189 Osman Ghandour: how we’re you know how we’re going to deliver this like on what timeline and like keeping you updated and
62 00:08:27.240 ⇒ 00:08:28.470 Osman Ghandour: the
63 00:08:28.730 ⇒ 00:08:38.184 Osman Ghandour: in terms of how much you’re looking to to take from this. Right? So I’m guessing it’s going to be. You’re going to be putting in very little resources. Right?
64 00:08:38.539 ⇒ 00:08:44.404 Osman Ghandour: you’re just going to be basically doing updates with him, making sure he’s happy. That type of thing.
65 00:08:44.730 ⇒ 00:08:51.169 Uttam: And then also I would say, when it comes down to like renewal and expansion like, that’s where I think we’ll
66 00:08:51.280 ⇒ 00:08:53.530 Uttam: we’ll see like if there’s an opportunity to continue.
67 00:08:53.530 ⇒ 00:08:53.860 Osman Ghandour: It’s.
68 00:08:53.860 ⇒ 00:08:56.249 Uttam: That. But other than that, I probably
69 00:08:56.480 ⇒ 00:08:59.154 Uttam: will just be a pretty face.
70 00:08:59.600 ⇒ 00:09:04.686 Osman Ghandour: Right? No, this is. And and that’s definitely a pretty face is important. So,
71 00:09:05.500 ⇒ 00:09:07.909 Osman Ghandour: yeah, that’s something which is really cool with.
72 00:09:07.910 ⇒ 00:09:08.370 Uttam: Okay.
73 00:09:08.580 ⇒ 00:09:23.300 Osman Ghandour: And yeah, depending on his budget. We can kind of, you know. First, st let you know if that’s something that we how much of. That is something that we could work with, you know, for us. It’s like we want you to obviously have a have a good slice of it. But like at the same time, we we, you know, needs to be something we can work with.
74 00:09:23.300 ⇒ 00:09:24.470 Uttam: Totally, totally.
75 00:09:24.470 ⇒ 00:09:38.239 Osman Ghandour: That’s kind of that’s kind of like. Let’s see what he comes back with. It might be the case where, hey? There’s enough for for everyone to be very happy, or Hey, you know, it’s just really going to be tough to make the numbers work. So I’m I’m looking at it.
76 00:09:38.550 ⇒ 00:09:42.929 Uttam: Okay, okay, great. So let me we just talked on
77 00:09:43.210 ⇒ 00:09:52.879 Uttam: Tuesday or Wednesday, I believe. So I kind of expecting something early next week. He’s been really responsive and has helped with a couple of things. So yeah, I’ll just get you.
78 00:09:52.880 ⇒ 00:09:55.759 Osman Ghandour: That’s excellent, right? That means he wants to push the project.
79 00:09:55.760 ⇒ 00:10:03.969 Uttam: Totally. Yeah. And yeah, and the nice thing is, he’s worked with external contractors, and I think he was kind of in this business himself for a while. So
80 00:10:04.140 ⇒ 00:10:20.509 Uttam: it’s not I. I just want to basically know what the the scope is and what the budget is. But that’s great. Okay, so let’s plan on that. As soon as I get that I got. So is there anything else? I have one other opportunity that I wanted to kind of chat about because I’m chatting with a few other
81 00:10:20.540 ⇒ 00:10:23.870 Uttam: friends. But is this anything else on that opportunity?
82 00:10:25.160 ⇒ 00:10:26.340 Uttam: we want to discuss.
83 00:10:26.340 ⇒ 00:10:30.289 Osman Ghandour: I think for me, it’s just waiting for scope and budget. Those are the most important things. Yeah, okay, I think we’re.
84 00:10:30.290 ⇒ 00:10:30.929 Uttam: Really good.
85 00:10:31.160 ⇒ 00:10:38.855 Uttam: Okay, I got another opportunity. And again, this is a little bit out of our scope. But basically
86 00:10:39.290 ⇒ 00:11:06.359 Uttam: there is an opportunity to kind of do data for this company longer term. So I think it’s something strategic. I want to look into this company called hope hydration. They basically make like mobile water bottle refilling stations. They have some fixed stations, and they do a lot of stuff for events like f 1 coachella, basically, they build these mobile water bottle refilling stations that dispense free water. And then they sell the ad space, the digital ad space on the side.
87 00:11:06.863 ⇒ 00:11:16.270 Uttam: And they’re kind of a startup. They just raised a bunch of money. My friend Ivana. She runs her own design studio. Actually, she’s been there for maybe like
88 00:11:16.470 ⇒ 00:11:21.010 Uttam: 8 months to a year, and has just done all their design. As an external
89 00:11:21.030 ⇒ 00:11:22.859 Uttam: contractor. She.
90 00:11:23.290 ⇒ 00:11:24.920 Jo Z: Is this studio Saganova.
91 00:11:25.310 ⇒ 00:11:26.070 Uttam: Yes.
92 00:11:26.570 ⇒ 00:11:28.270 Jo Z: Yeah, that’s that looks good.
93 00:11:28.510 ⇒ 00:11:38.450 Uttam: Yeah. So so she really crushed it. And we actually work together at flow code where she like ran design. And I was kind of running data. So.
94 00:11:38.580 ⇒ 00:11:48.370 Uttam: like all of her work, is really great. And again, she’s like a really good friend of mine. So she called me and said. They’re trying. They have like one main software engineer. He kind of handles.
95 00:11:48.660 ⇒ 00:11:59.440 Uttam: seeming like like everything from kind of building the back end Apis for these machines they all have like raspberry pi’s in them. They’re doing some sort of like
96 00:11:59.650 ⇒ 00:12:13.749 Uttam: they’re they’re like they’re using the cli to basically get into them and like change like assets on the machine and stuff like that. So, but they’re just scaling up right now like they have maybe 10 machines. They’re trying to go to like 20 or 30 fixed machines. And then
97 00:12:13.760 ⇒ 00:12:18.460 Uttam: they’re they have these variable machines based on like activations like coachella and stuff like that.
98 00:12:18.580 ⇒ 00:12:27.539 Uttam: So we got tapped to kind of put together a proposal for an internal kind of control center, basically like a simple.
99 00:12:27.650 ⇒ 00:12:36.979 Uttam: broad app that just talks to a few back end. Apis to do things like upload assets to the machine like stuff like that.
100 00:12:37.570 ⇒ 00:12:39.590 Jo Z: That’s exactly what we do. So I mean.
101 00:12:39.590 ⇒ 00:12:52.159 Uttam: Okay, okay, cool. Yeah. So he. And then the nice thing about that job is, Ivana has all the screens done. It’s all like, pretty basic Google material. Ui, and I can, I should. I should send you guys the figma
102 00:12:52.838 ⇒ 00:12:56.030 Uttam: and it’s it’s maybe like.
103 00:12:56.734 ⇒ 00:13:06.470 Uttam: yeah, I mean, I even so just walked. There’s like settings. There’s like machines. There’s like events, you know, there’s a couple of simple objects. The back end is basically
104 00:13:06.944 ⇒ 00:13:12.290 Uttam: already. It’s all on aws. And then the nice thing is this is an internal app.
105 00:13:12.971 ⇒ 00:13:18.120 Uttam: So there’s like, probably like 10 clients, just all the employees who want to change stuff.
106 00:13:18.495 ⇒ 00:13:25.860 Uttam: So that’s what I’m basically figuring out. Now, the thing I’m thinking about proposing to them is they’re a small company. So I got some insight from Ivana on like.
107 00:13:25.910 ⇒ 00:13:30.249 Uttam: okay, what are we thinking about for budget? I’m thinking about kind of
108 00:13:30.500 ⇒ 00:13:33.719 Uttam: trying to put together 2 proposals based on timeline.
109 00:13:34.205 ⇒ 00:13:41.154 Uttam: One that’s like kind of like a 3 month project around it. One that’s maybe a little bit longer.
110 00:13:41.520 ⇒ 00:13:46.040 Osman Ghandour: Are they looking for an Mvp. Or something super super refined and super.
111 00:13:46.040 ⇒ 00:13:47.970 Jo Z: But internal. It’s internal. So it’s it’s.
112 00:13:47.970 ⇒ 00:13:49.490 Uttam: Internal, so.
113 00:13:49.490 ⇒ 00:14:00.340 Osman Ghandour: Refine me something just to get their their hand like just to get going. Are they looking to something just to get going like internally, or like looking to take this all the way. I guess that’s the the.
114 00:14:00.340 ⇒ 00:14:17.199 Uttam: I think they’re gonna I think they’re looking to take it all the way. I mean, all the screens are done. I think there’s a couple of back end services that the main guy is still working on, but for the most part everything from like uploading assets to the machine, to changing the name to creating events like it’s all he’s already doing a lot of that, just
115 00:14:17.720 ⇒ 00:14:24.039 Uttam: like through terminal and so he they just want something that he can hand off to his team to basically
116 00:14:24.410 ⇒ 00:14:29.169 Uttam: do that right? So got it. And for that, it’s they primarily just need a a front end person.
117 00:14:29.920 ⇒ 00:14:30.530 Jo Z: Yeah.
118 00:14:31.410 ⇒ 00:14:34.970 Osman Ghandour: Okay, that’s very cool. And you said you were going to give them 2 options.
119 00:14:35.510 ⇒ 00:14:36.399 Uttam: Yeah, I was.
120 00:14:36.400 ⇒ 00:14:36.850 Osman Ghandour: Yeah.
121 00:14:36.850 ⇒ 00:14:45.390 Uttam: I was like I got kind of some insight I was like, hey? If if I do like a front end person like I have a senior front end
122 00:14:45.580 ⇒ 00:14:58.119 Uttam: person that I was like, okay, interested in staffing on. But it’ll end up being like north of like 10 KA month or around there. For us to even like get going. And she was like, Yeah, they’re probably going to
123 00:14:58.170 ⇒ 00:15:02.419 Uttam: like, be like, that’s way too much. So I’m thinking of
124 00:15:02.560 ⇒ 00:15:20.270 Uttam: something in the middle of like 5 to 10 KA month, and then trying to basically try to get suss out their timeline. The the problem with this one is that I was like, Okay, what’s the timeline he’s like, well, you guys should tell me like what’s possible. And then I was like, what’s the budget he’s like, well, you guys should tell me what’s possible, which is
125 00:15:20.510 ⇒ 00:15:22.835 Uttam: like kind of shitty. But
126 00:15:23.350 ⇒ 00:15:28.180 Uttam: so that’s I mean the you know the game. So that’s why I want to kind of give them a couple of options.
127 00:15:28.503 ⇒ 00:15:39.156 Uttam: The nice thing about this company is one they’re growing. So I I do think if we do great work in in learning about Ivana’s engagement, they should continue to roll, and then also.
128 00:15:39.510 ⇒ 00:15:46.169 Uttam: well, some of the stuff on the data analytics side about, they actually sell the data back to customers like, what’s the footfall around the.
129 00:15:46.170 ⇒ 00:15:46.820 Jo Z: But.
130 00:15:46.820 ⇒ 00:15:47.980 Uttam: Machine? Like
131 00:15:48.110 ⇒ 00:15:49.550 Uttam: how much longer?
132 00:15:49.550 ⇒ 00:15:50.030 Jo Z: Fancy!
133 00:15:50.030 ⇒ 00:15:59.459 Uttam: Exactly. They basically package that and sell them. That’s all stuff that you know. I did and like my team can do. So, I think there’s some upward opportunity here as well.
134 00:15:59.920 ⇒ 00:16:10.900 Osman Ghandour: So I guess the initial scope. Here we’re just looking at mainly front end work. Is that my understanding correctly? Okay, yeah. And I guess we wanna probably have a look at those screens to have an idea.
135 00:16:10.900 ⇒ 00:16:11.730 Uttam: Yes, awesome.
136 00:16:11.730 ⇒ 00:16:14.169 Jo Z: Yeah, I I guess so, too. I mean.
137 00:16:14.230 ⇒ 00:16:16.379 Jo Z: I mean, I think we could do
138 00:16:16.560 ⇒ 00:16:24.290 Jo Z: depending on how many screens there are. Right? I think you know we could do. We could have a pretty quick turnaround to get something on this.
139 00:16:24.290 ⇒ 00:16:24.890 Uttam: Okay.
140 00:16:25.440 ⇒ 00:16:36.480 Uttam: Yeah, it seemed it actually like, I think it’s you could if you hustled it could be do it in a month, if it like on. Probably it’ll take 2 months. And I was gonna say 3 months conservatively, is was like my.
141 00:16:36.480 ⇒ 00:16:37.170 Osman Ghandour: Always.
142 00:16:37.170 ⇒ 00:16:37.700 Uttam: My sense.
143 00:16:37.700 ⇒ 00:16:38.710 Osman Ghandour: Perfect. Yeah, yeah.
144 00:16:38.710 ⇒ 00:16:39.210 Jo Z: First.st
145 00:16:39.210 ⇒ 00:16:44.759 Uttam: Yeah, in in like building some of these before, especially because it’s internal. I was like this.
146 00:16:44.760 ⇒ 00:16:46.049 Jo Z: Maybe we can.
147 00:16:46.160 ⇒ 00:16:46.660 Jo Z: Maybe.
148 00:16:46.660 ⇒ 00:16:47.650 Uttam: But I’ll send it to you guys.
149 00:16:47.650 ⇒ 00:16:54.019 Jo Z: We can do a fixed if if these are the screens and there, there’s not going to be scope expansion. There’s.
150 00:16:54.020 ⇒ 00:16:54.700 Osman Ghandour: Price, yeah.
151 00:16:54.700 ⇒ 00:16:55.989 Jo Z: Yeah, thanks, Bryson.
152 00:16:56.200 ⇒ 00:17:00.539 Jo Z: like, say, whatever 15 K, and then we’ll turn it around and within.
153 00:17:00.540 ⇒ 00:17:04.510 Osman Ghandour: However long we can right and and as fast as we can, and so, whatever it is.
154 00:17:04.510 ⇒ 00:17:08.100 Uttam: Okay, yeah, okay. I’ll send it. I’ll send it to you guys. Right after this.
155 00:17:08.119 ⇒ 00:17:25.200 Uttam: Let me know what you think. I’m getting like a couple of quotes from some other folks, but I mean again, I would love to work with us. So let’s see. And then, like the the nice thing is, the guy seems pretty motivated. They’re scaling the company. So they just raised some money. So it seems like there’s some good headwinds. But again.
156 00:17:25.780 ⇒ 00:17:26.700 Jo Z: Something broken.
157 00:17:26.996 ⇒ 00:17:28.180 Uttam: This week. So yeah.
158 00:17:28.740 ⇒ 00:17:31.460 Jo Z: So from the data perspective, I come from a data background initially.
159 00:17:31.460 ⇒ 00:17:32.390 Uttam: Okay. Cool.
160 00:17:32.390 ⇒ 00:17:37.470 Jo Z: I know. I know that’s what you guys do. But I would be. It would be sweet to work with you you guys like, who are you.
161 00:17:37.470 ⇒ 00:17:43.190 Uttam: Yeah, I mean, like, what you know, what they’re doing now is they’re actually just the guy set up like a Grafana dashboard, with just like all the.
162 00:17:43.190 ⇒ 00:17:44.380 Jo Z: Oh, my goodness and.
163 00:17:44.380 ⇒ 00:17:56.720 Uttam: And it looks like it’s actually so looks, there’s like colors. I was surprised. But yeah, it looks like shit. And I’m like, who’s gonna buy this like also, I’m like, Hey, you guys are just spitting out data for free. And you could package that and sell that
164 00:17:56.810 ⇒ 00:18:01.009 Uttam: for a ton of money, and that’s what I did at flow code. So.
165 00:18:01.010 ⇒ 00:18:03.184 Jo Z: Embedded some sort of embedded
166 00:18:04.190 ⇒ 00:18:25.450 Uttam: Yeah, or like just embedded dashboard where you log in. And you see your stuff. And there’s, you know, like, so I think there’s a huge pitch there. So I’m gonna kind of weave that into the pitch is basically like, let’s start with this. You guys like us. Then, you know, I would love to see if there’s opportunity to work on that. So let me say, I’ll send you the guys, the figma. Okay, right right after this.
167 00:18:25.450 ⇒ 00:18:26.059 Jo Z: Are we on Saturday.
168 00:18:26.060 ⇒ 00:18:26.410 Uttam: To be other.
169 00:18:26.410 ⇒ 00:18:26.900 Jo Z: So we also.
170 00:18:26.900 ⇒ 00:18:27.600 Uttam: Yeah.
171 00:18:28.350 ⇒ 00:18:30.270 Osman Ghandour: I don’t know if you’re on the chat here.
172 00:18:30.270 ⇒ 00:18:30.680 Jo Z: Let me know!
173 00:18:30.680 ⇒ 00:18:39.039 Osman Ghandour: See if you okay, then let me add you on that cause. Yeah, you tell me I have a channel. Yeah, let me put you on here, Joe.
174 00:18:39.390 ⇒ 00:18:41.719 Uttam: Yeah, I’ll just send the. I’ll send the figma
175 00:18:41.760 ⇒ 00:18:47.070 Uttam: in there and then. I’ll just write up some notes on both of these, and then that way we can just have a
176 00:18:47.270 ⇒ 00:18:48.880 Uttam: share, Doc, and then
177 00:18:49.640 ⇒ 00:18:50.709 Uttam: let’s hit it.
178 00:18:51.290 ⇒ 00:19:00.077 Osman Ghandour: Yeah, that sounds great. Yeah, if you want, yeah, feel free to send anything as well if you want on slack, because Joe’s now on our slack channel. So
179 00:19:00.510 ⇒ 00:19:01.260 Osman Ghandour: yeah.
180 00:19:01.790 ⇒ 00:19:02.680 Uttam: Okay. Great.
181 00:19:02.680 ⇒ 00:19:08.870 Osman Ghandour: Awesome. No, thanks, Tom. This is yeah. Let’s do it. Let’s let’s work together on some stuff. It’d be a great yeah.
182 00:19:09.120 ⇒ 00:19:17.172 Uttam: Okay? Awesome. Yeah. Really great to chat with. You guys. Hope you guys have a great weekend hope something exciting or or maybe not exciting, just relaxing.
183 00:19:17.460 ⇒ 00:19:18.680 Osman Ghandour: Hey? You too! Man.
184 00:19:18.680 ⇒ 00:19:19.350 Uttam: Okay.
185 00:19:19.350 ⇒ 00:19:20.230 Osman Ghandour: Have a good time.
186 00:19:20.230 ⇒ 00:19:21.639 Uttam: Yeah. Thank you. Bye.