Meeting Title: Uttam-Kumaran’s-Personal-Meeting-Room Date: 2024-07-26 Meeting participants: Jaypee Arriola, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:03:39.400 ⇒ 00:03:40.939 Jaypee Arriola: Hello! Do you hear me?
2 00:03:41.270 ⇒ 00:03:42.170 Uttam Kumaran: Hello!
3 00:03:43.430 ⇒ 00:03:45.750 Jaypee Arriola: Yep, well, sorry I don’t have the camera. For some reason.
4 00:03:45.750 ⇒ 00:03:47.199 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, you’re okay.
5 00:03:47.350 ⇒ 00:03:51.129 Uttam Kumaran: Just thought I’d say, Hi, so you can see my face, but we can both go off it. Yeah.
6 00:03:51.620 ⇒ 00:03:54.880 Jaypee Arriola: Okay, that’s great. Nice. How are you?
7 00:03:55.040 ⇒ 00:03:55.630 Uttam Kumaran: Good.
8 00:03:55.630 ⇒ 00:03:58.159 Jaypee Arriola: No, all good thanks.
9 00:03:58.660 ⇒ 00:03:59.560 Jaypee Arriola: So how can I help.
10 00:04:00.063 ⇒ 00:04:04.596 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I sent the email over, just about
11 00:04:05.691 ⇒ 00:04:11.959 Uttam Kumaran: web flow help. So we have a web flow site, brain forge. I don’t know if you had a chance to take a look at that.
12 00:04:12.250 ⇒ 00:04:13.630 Uttam Kumaran: Aye in.
13 00:04:13.770 ⇒ 00:04:17.599 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So basically, we have a couple of changes that
14 00:04:17.610 ⇒ 00:04:27.160 Uttam Kumaran: we’re trying to make. We’re trying to implement a couple of new icons like, make some styling changes as well as like. Add a Nad bar, add some more navigation
15 00:04:27.814 ⇒ 00:04:51.849 Uttam Kumaran: and then starting to publish some case studies and services onto there. And then I think we’re gonna continue to evolve the the site a bit more. So kind of one wanted to bring on someone who is able to do a little bit of design as well as implement stuff in webflow we have. We use the designer in the past to just do the whole kind of like design system.
16 00:04:52.111 ⇒ 00:05:01.519 Uttam Kumaran: But I think we’re at the point now, where we just need like smaller tweaks and like, kind of like, more regular help to develop the site. So that’s kind of like what we’re looking for.
17 00:05:02.830 ⇒ 00:05:04.939 Jaypee Arriola: Okay? Sure. Sure. Sure, I can help with that.
18 00:05:05.483 ⇒ 00:05:10.779 Jaypee Arriola: Just a few. Clark. Yes. So what do you mean by AI automation integration?
19 00:05:11.840 ⇒ 00:05:15.900 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I mean, I guess, this is like something that I wanted to ask
20 00:05:16.684 ⇒ 00:05:26.692 Uttam Kumaran: you about, like you like in your in some profiles that I’ve been reading. People mentioned that there’s some integrations that you can do with with
21 00:05:27.330 ⇒ 00:05:42.740 Uttam Kumaran: with the web flow to basically like, publish content and, like, you know, help generate AI images, or, if we need like stock images for stuff. So that’s kind of like what I would be interested in again. We don’t have like full time marketing or sales so ideally.
22 00:05:42.740 ⇒ 00:05:43.200 Jaypee Arriola: I don’t.
23 00:05:43.200 ⇒ 00:05:51.200 Uttam Kumaran: The process of publishing these case studies getting things into the site. Wanna try and just automate as much as possible.
24 00:05:52.180 ⇒ 00:05:56.579 Jaypee Arriola: I see. I see you mean, creating content, using a.
25 00:05:56.790 ⇒ 00:06:01.450 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, some content creation, even like creating images for
26 00:06:01.820 ⇒ 00:06:09.219 Uttam Kumaran: creating some stock images like maybe using mid journey or something. And just thinking of other ways that we can kind of automate like
27 00:06:09.570 ⇒ 00:06:11.090 Uttam Kumaran: the website and blog.
28 00:06:11.090 ⇒ 00:06:11.830 Jaypee Arriola: Shoes
29 00:06:12.220 ⇒ 00:06:20.925 Jaypee Arriola: for image generation. I only use focus isn’t necessarily open source. Yeah. Image generation.
30 00:06:21.760 ⇒ 00:06:22.410 Jaypee Arriola: hey? I.
31 00:06:22.410 ⇒ 00:06:23.170 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
32 00:06:23.554 ⇒ 00:06:30.850 Jaypee Arriola: They don’t use mid journey, but it’s it’s a bit on par with with with mid journey.
33 00:06:30.880 ⇒ 00:06:32.210 Jaypee Arriola: Okay? But that’s
34 00:06:32.390 ⇒ 00:06:35.820 Jaypee Arriola: has signed far. I can. I can work on
35 00:06:35.930 ⇒ 00:06:38.090 Jaypee Arriola: AI generation.
36 00:06:38.090 ⇒ 00:06:38.840 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
37 00:06:39.240 ⇒ 00:06:44.740 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, that’s fine. I think I just threw that in there. It’s like something worth thinking about. But the primary ask is,
38 00:06:44.990 ⇒ 00:06:45.660 Jaypee Arriola: Yeah.
39 00:06:45.900 ⇒ 00:06:52.919 Uttam Kumaran: Is for like help to basically. And maybe I can even share a little bit of my screen. And I can just
40 00:06:53.160 ⇒ 00:06:56.514 Uttam Kumaran: kind of walk through what we’re what we’re thinking.
41 00:06:58.200 ⇒ 00:06:59.950 Uttam Kumaran: one second.
42 00:07:01.457 ⇒ 00:07:04.592 Uttam Kumaran: So this is the site right now.
43 00:07:05.040 ⇒ 00:07:05.560 Jaypee Arriola: And.
44 00:07:05.560 ⇒ 00:07:12.040 Uttam Kumaran: And we basically have, like some case studies here. There’s some animations. We have some moving stuff here.
45 00:07:12.502 ⇒ 00:07:32.259 Uttam Kumaran: You know, simple landing page, some download, some files. Some faqs, ideally, we wanna modify, modify these top navs to basically have a dropdown to go to some services and case studies pages. I may also ask to change a little bit of like this, so we can display some more information.
46 00:07:32.605 ⇒ 00:07:36.880 Uttam Kumaran: And then, ideally, some of these are clickable, to to go to the respective
47 00:07:37.080 ⇒ 00:07:38.710 Uttam Kumaran: page.
48 00:07:38.750 ⇒ 00:07:41.655 Uttam Kumaran: and then to share with you.
49 00:07:43.860 ⇒ 00:07:48.599 Uttam Kumaran: like an example. This is like an example of like a case study page that we have
50 00:07:48.610 ⇒ 00:08:03.960 Uttam Kumaran: where we have like a title we have, like some client quotes, and you know, there’s some things here like I want to change these Logos. So it’s like Hamburger logo to be something we just have, like, maybe some component library for these Logos. And then
51 00:08:04.340 ⇒ 00:08:08.340 Uttam Kumaran: again, we’re we’re my team is coming up with the content.
52 00:08:08.370 ⇒ 00:08:12.419 Uttam Kumaran: And then what? The moment? Right now, we’re actually, we have a we have a
53 00:08:12.804 ⇒ 00:08:21.019 Uttam Kumaran: Google sheet where we’re we’re able to create each of these contents. And we actually upload a Csv basically, to kind of match to these fields.
54 00:08:21.390 ⇒ 00:08:33.179 Uttam Kumaran: And then I also like ideally, I want to change like there’s some weird flickers here. And then also, I want to change this to kind of like, be able to link to like a formal document with this sort of stuff.
55 00:08:33.330 ⇒ 00:08:42.430 Uttam Kumaran: A couple of small changes there. And then we also have in in our figma. We have, you know, like a component library with
56 00:08:42.480 ⇒ 00:08:49.249 Uttam Kumaran: everything here as well as like basically like final so let me just make this a little bit bigger
57 00:08:50.033 ⇒ 00:08:52.567 Uttam Kumaran: just like final layouts of all this
58 00:08:53.550 ⇒ 00:08:54.610 Uttam Kumaran: sorry.
59 00:08:54.980 ⇒ 00:08:56.599 Jaypee Arriola: I also have an access to that.
60 00:08:57.000 ⇒ 00:08:58.955 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah. And
61 00:08:59.610 ⇒ 00:09:13.839 Uttam Kumaran: like, we kind of went from, we have some rough sketches. We did done all the way to here. And then, additionally, we also developed you know, some of the designs around a blog which, like I, it’s not the number one. The other stuff I mentioned is number one priority. But
62 00:09:13.860 ⇒ 00:09:21.819 Uttam Kumaran: we want again. We’re gonna start like a newsletter and start to publish some stuff here, so we’ll likely need some help to kind of build this.
63 00:09:24.110 ⇒ 00:09:34.169 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, that’s kind of the the gist. Hope pro. I assume it’s some kind of these are some of the you’ve done looking at your profile. You’ve done a lot of different things similar to this, so.
64 00:09:34.940 ⇒ 00:09:35.599 Jaypee Arriola: I’m a
65 00:09:39.816 ⇒ 00:09:43.309 Jaypee Arriola: what about the content? How ready is it
66 00:09:43.560 ⇒ 00:09:45.700 Jaypee Arriola: like? How many percent ready is it.
67 00:09:46.614 ⇒ 00:09:53.200 Uttam Kumaran: So just to give you a sense of like, kind of some of the content stuff we’re doing. I’m just gonna go to.
68 00:09:53.650 ⇒ 00:09:58.580 Uttam Kumaran: We basically have like this sort of Cms spreadsheet, where we’re working.
69 00:09:59.067 ⇒ 00:10:02.549 Uttam Kumaran: We’re working to create like each of these different
70 00:10:03.170 ⇒ 00:10:06.979 Uttam Kumaran: components for all these pages. So basically.
71 00:10:07.030 ⇒ 00:10:13.470 Uttam Kumaran: the layout of the pages is probably the most important. And then we’re working on creating this sort of
72 00:10:14.120 ⇒ 00:10:16.479 Uttam Kumaran: these content that we’re writing basically
73 00:10:17.590 ⇒ 00:10:18.540 Jaypee Arriola: We’re so.
74 00:10:21.250 ⇒ 00:10:22.190 Jaypee Arriola: I’m sorry.
75 00:10:25.720 ⇒ 00:10:35.370 Uttam Kumaran: So in terms of like, you know, we may have some small sort of, but I can again. I can go in and make copy changes on web flow. That’s not what I’m worried about. It’s more of like, you know.
76 00:10:35.370 ⇒ 00:10:36.300 Jaypee Arriola: Taking, like.
77 00:10:36.620 ⇒ 00:10:38.359 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah layout. And then
78 00:10:38.600 ⇒ 00:10:43.589 Uttam Kumaran: also, like, I want to work with someone who’s done like landing page design and things like that. As you can see there’s
79 00:10:43.710 ⇒ 00:11:00.509 Uttam Kumaran: there’s more work here to be done to do like adding offers and adding, you know, some call to actions and things like that. I think this is like, this is like we had a v 0 website that was like, really, really bad. This is probably the one. And then, as we kind of evolve. I want to work with somebody.
80 00:11:00.620 ⇒ 00:11:08.769 Uttam Kumaran: you know, kind of like part time longer term to kind of make. I want this site to get better every week, you know, and kind of make some changes so.
81 00:11:09.160 ⇒ 00:11:15.909 Uttam Kumaran: and you’ll be primarily working with me. And then we have a we have a project manager internally so
82 00:11:16.670 ⇒ 00:11:17.380 Uttam Kumaran: thrill.
83 00:11:19.060 ⇒ 00:11:26.749 Jaypee Arriola: Yeah, sure, sure. Sure, I can help with that. But this certainly will take a lot of time to actually finish to the final
84 00:11:26.930 ⇒ 00:11:30.269 Jaypee Arriola: product that you envision to have
85 00:11:30.930 ⇒ 00:11:31.780 Jaypee Arriola: and.
86 00:11:31.780 ⇒ 00:11:32.970 Uttam Kumaran: Can you say one more time?
87 00:11:34.550 ⇒ 00:11:39.430 Jaypee Arriola: Yeah, I was saying, this. This certainly can take some some time to.
88 00:11:39.430 ⇒ 00:11:39.870 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
89 00:11:40.239 ⇒ 00:11:43.930 Jaypee Arriola: Get to the final product that you that you envision.
90 00:11:44.120 ⇒ 00:11:49.427 Jaypee Arriola: do I actually have so also intensive content and topic.
91 00:11:50.000 ⇒ 00:11:55.730 Jaypee Arriola: is, is it like 9, 90 ready or 80% ready, or 20.
92 00:11:57.168 ⇒ 00:12:01.699 Uttam Kumaran: And by content, do you mean, like the see of the the content.
93 00:12:01.700 ⇒ 00:12:02.470 Jaypee Arriola: Via the Iris.
94 00:12:02.470 ⇒ 00:12:03.680 Uttam Kumaran: For all the pages.
95 00:12:03.680 ⇒ 00:12:08.489 Jaypee Arriola: Yeah, the the for all the pages that’s that’s currently needed to be created.
96 00:12:09.814 ⇒ 00:12:26.100 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think it’s probably like 50% ready. I think we probably we have, like, I think, like 5 or 6 pages done the the nice thing is like, we basically have AI kinda help us do a lot of that. So I don’t think that’s gonna take more than by the end of next week we should have all the pages.
97 00:12:26.100 ⇒ 00:12:26.760 Jaypee Arriola: I hate.
98 00:12:26.760 ⇒ 00:12:32.739 Uttam Kumaran: Ready to go. The thing is like we don’t. I don’t. I have like I can verbally speak to how like these
99 00:12:32.820 ⇒ 00:12:43.329 Uttam Kumaran: I can, and I can give you some info for like how I want these like dropdowns to look! But that’s where I’ll be relying on on your help. Anything where there’s actually content.
100 00:12:43.749 ⇒ 00:12:58.590 Uttam Kumaran: Like, if we wanna add call to actions or offers, we’ll we’ll come up with with all the content, like we won’t we like again, I will mainly be looking for your guidance on that. And then implementation but everything else in terms of like
101 00:12:58.810 ⇒ 00:13:12.090 Uttam Kumaran: a lot of it’s functionality like making some of these clickable. You know, maybe changing some of the functionality here. And then kind of again building kind of like our next version of our site.
102 00:13:13.090 ⇒ 00:13:17.610 Jaypee Arriola: Alright. So basically, we’re gonna start with a few fixes.
103 00:13:18.070 ⇒ 00:13:19.430 Jaypee Arriola: I’m I’m.
104 00:13:19.430 ⇒ 00:13:20.180 Uttam Kumaran: Cracked.
105 00:13:20.180 ⇒ 00:13:27.890 Jaypee Arriola: Site wide. Yeah, on the current site. And then we’re going to create new pages that you are going to add.
106 00:13:28.160 ⇒ 00:13:30.720 Jaypee Arriola: And once the contents are ready.
107 00:13:31.010 ⇒ 00:13:35.070 Jaypee Arriola: And then are we also you moving into
108 00:13:35.260 ⇒ 00:13:40.860 Jaypee Arriola: actually redesigning the home website? Cause i i i thought you just created a new branding.
109 00:13:40.860 ⇒ 00:13:56.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So redesign, I think, is like, probably too strong of a word. What I mean more is like, once we get all of the content that’s in the backlog into here, and then we we have some small functionality changes I likely want to do. I’d want to do another pass at the homepage.
110 00:13:57.466 ⇒ 00:14:12.140 Uttam Kumaran: Another pass, meaning like I wanna have, like another, a layout like a better image here. And, for example, if you consider this site there’s another site that I’ve been taking some time to look at. That’s like a competitor to us.
111 00:14:12.230 ⇒ 00:14:16.590 Uttam Kumaran: you know, where they have like, you know, they have great like content management, basically like
112 00:14:17.005 ⇒ 00:14:29.010 Uttam Kumaran: they have a great call to action. They have, you know, they have their different services here. They have these navs here. And then basically, one of the things I like about these guys is you know, they they have different.
113 00:14:29.140 ⇒ 00:14:52.479 Uttam Kumaran: you know, kind of diagrams that stuff that will develop. And maybe again, if if you’re adept at doing stuff in figma and making these images, you know, that would be really helpful. But, for example, like, if we go to like their like case studies. One of the nice things I like about their case studies is, you go into one of these. They have links. They have like backlinks to other pages. That is really nice.
114 00:14:52.670 ⇒ 00:14:57.399 Uttam Kumaran: like, you can go click here and go straight to their service page about one thing here.
115 00:14:57.778 ⇒ 00:15:01.169 Uttam Kumaran: You know. So I just think I just think it’s like
116 00:15:01.400 ⇒ 00:15:10.460 Uttam Kumaran: the little bit of the content management is nice. But again, these are things that I think once all the content is there. This is mainly like kind of sort of mapping
117 00:15:10.872 ⇒ 00:15:25.240 Uttam Kumaran: and so I think there’s probably 2 places of like better design is needed. One the cake, each individual case study page. I don’t see. We’re gonna add like a ton more content, but actual layout, you know, cause you can see.
118 00:15:25.240 ⇒ 00:15:25.640 Jaypee Arriola: Right.
119 00:15:25.640 ⇒ 00:15:37.639 Uttam Kumaran: Right here. There’s a lot of empty space. There’s not much you really get from looking at here like I’m you know, you’re a designer. You know what I’m talking about. So there’s a there’s a v 2 obviously here that we could do.
120 00:15:37.640 ⇒ 00:15:39.399 Jaypee Arriola: It’s a little bit bare. Yeah.
121 00:15:39.740 ⇒ 00:15:58.109 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, exactly like it’s mostly content. There’s, you know. I don’t need there to be fancy movement again. A lot of this is technical stuff, but want there to be some better diagrams, more call to action. You know, highlighting the things that people we want readers to understand, and then also again links to read more of our content, and things like that. So.
122 00:15:58.540 ⇒ 00:16:10.309 Jaypee Arriola: Gotcha. Okay? Okay? So it’s more actually about after fixing a few functionalities on the website, it’s more about design than actually building
123 00:16:10.390 ⇒ 00:16:11.759 Jaypee Arriola: it. All went flung.
124 00:16:13.414 ⇒ 00:16:14.949 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m gonna I’m gonna.
125 00:16:14.950 ⇒ 00:16:15.850 Jaypee Arriola: Because it’s
126 00:16:16.120 ⇒ 00:16:20.010 Jaypee Arriola: yeah, because I I think what’s need is actual, actually, design
127 00:16:20.040 ⇒ 00:16:22.670 Jaypee Arriola: that you can implement on one floor right away.
128 00:16:22.670 ⇒ 00:16:23.650 Uttam Kumaran: Correct?
129 00:16:23.950 ⇒ 00:16:25.759 Uttam Kumaran: Right? Yeah, of course, like.
130 00:16:25.760 ⇒ 00:16:26.690 Jaypee Arriola: Okay. Once.
131 00:16:26.690 ⇒ 00:16:34.880 Uttam Kumaran: Once. Yeah, once we do the designs, of course there, there will be the implementation associated as well. But you’re totally right, like, because of your knowledge. With
132 00:16:35.030 ⇒ 00:16:38.729 Uttam Kumaran: how like? What designs translate well to web, flow.
133 00:16:39.140 ⇒ 00:16:39.770 Jaypee Arriola: Well.
134 00:16:40.100 ⇒ 00:16:50.376 Uttam Kumaran: You know, we could do a ton of like custom stuff. But I wanna I just know there’s some constraints. And so I wanna do stuff that isn’t conducive to getting this out quickly and
135 00:16:50.790 ⇒ 00:17:01.249 Uttam Kumaran: you know, making sure that we can continue to iterate on the site, because this is how we’re starting to do outbound marketing and directing people to our site. And so this is where in the next few weeks would love
136 00:17:01.350 ⇒ 00:17:07.209 Uttam Kumaran: some help kind of getting this, and we’ve kind of we. We use an agency to kind of get us to this point. And again, I think it’s
137 00:17:07.240 ⇒ 00:17:13.939 Uttam Kumaran: 60 to 70 there which I’m happy with. But there’s like small tweaks that I want to work with somebody directly
138 00:17:14.170 ⇒ 00:17:18.129 Uttam Kumaran: on, like a recurring basis to basically kind of make these changes so.
139 00:17:18.943 ⇒ 00:17:23.049 Jaypee Arriola: Okay? So so basically, you’re not looking for a project based
140 00:17:23.703 ⇒ 00:17:24.629 Jaypee Arriola: one off
141 00:17:25.027 ⇒ 00:17:31.999 Jaypee Arriola: work on on the website. So it’s gonna long term building up from from where it currently is
142 00:17:32.049 ⇒ 00:17:35.369 Jaypee Arriola: to the actual, like, seamless, driven
143 00:17:35.389 ⇒ 00:17:37.099 Jaypee Arriola: content website.
144 00:17:37.100 ⇒ 00:17:50.460 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Yeah. And and you know, you know, I I think, like, ideally, you know, I I wanna definitely set some milestones and some things we drive towards. But you know, like the websites are, we’re gonna constantly evolve.
145 00:17:50.470 ⇒ 00:17:54.430 Uttam Kumaran: And so ideally, you know, my goal is that
146 00:17:55.110 ⇒ 00:18:22.439 Uttam Kumaran: we have a go to, partner that we work with whenever we need changes to the site, you know, and that becomes our. The person we go to. So like that may be more redesigns, more types of pages. You know, landing page development for offers or or certain activations. And so yeah, ideally, we’re we’re not looking for somebody that’s just like, come in. And now, on one thing, it’s something that can work with us on a weekly basis for the foreseeable future.
147 00:18:23.380 ⇒ 00:18:24.250 Jaypee Arriola: That’s right. Yeah.
148 00:18:24.250 ⇒ 00:18:27.619 Uttam Kumaran: And and that, and that didn’t. But I may. Yeah, sorry. Go ahead.
149 00:18:28.410 ⇒ 00:18:29.657 Jaypee Arriola: Yeah, it’s okay, yeah.
150 00:18:31.150 ⇒ 00:18:37.019 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, i i i guess I’m more thinking about it that way, because then again, like, this is one part of the business that I know
151 00:18:37.110 ⇒ 00:19:03.419 Uttam Kumaran: I always have ideas around, and we want to continue to to have this be not only just on par with our competitors, but way better. And so, you know, we’re in a very technical industry. We provide data solutions. And I want this to highlight our work, our team. Why, we’re better. And so, you know, and I don’t want us. We don’t have the Web expertise in house, so I want to bring. Have somebody who can
152 00:19:03.450 ⇒ 00:19:05.530 Uttam Kumaran: kind of handle the tasks related that.
153 00:19:05.960 ⇒ 00:19:12.529 Jaypee Arriola: So basically, I mean, practically the timeline will will be. It’s not like
154 00:19:12.600 ⇒ 00:19:15.349 Jaypee Arriola: and shorts time span to to actually
155 00:19:15.790 ⇒ 00:19:19.259 Jaypee Arriola: get to the final desirable
156 00:19:21.130 ⇒ 00:19:22.990 Jaypee Arriola: state of of the website.
157 00:19:23.850 ⇒ 00:19:27.829 Jaypee Arriola: It’s it’s a continuous, is is it a continuous project like
158 00:19:27.880 ⇒ 00:19:34.939 Jaypee Arriola: something that you can like, you just need someone to take you can attend to when when it turns it comes to
159 00:19:35.772 ⇒ 00:19:37.759 Jaypee Arriola: workflow and design.
160 00:19:38.500 ⇒ 00:19:56.619 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I I think it’s gonna be continuous. I think, as I mentioned in the email, we do have some deliverables that are, you know as soon as possible. But again, as we start to work together, we’ll basically have a backlog of tasks that we wanna we wanna accomplish. I I think there’s certainly like
161 00:19:56.820 ⇒ 00:20:19.469 Uttam Kumaran: at least a few months of work. If not more. After that I just can’t see that far right now. But like we again, I wanna develop more landing pages. Wanted, we have to blog to with a blog to kind of finalize and implement. So yeah, basically wanna have somebody on available. So that if me or my team want to make changes like that’s possible here.
162 00:20:20.910 ⇒ 00:20:22.387 Jaypee Arriola: Because I’m thinking
163 00:20:23.771 ⇒ 00:20:26.839 Jaypee Arriola: correct me if I’m wrong. You’re you’re not
164 00:20:27.110 ⇒ 00:20:33.520 Jaypee Arriola: open to doing a full time employee to do the web, flow, and design for great company.
165 00:20:33.710 ⇒ 00:20:39.359 Jaypee Arriola: Or you’re just looking to find someone who can actually just be there when you need it.
166 00:20:41.030 ⇒ 00:20:49.030 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean again, like, I don’t know, like I don’t know. I don’t. It doesn’t. It’s not clear to me that there is like 40 h every week
167 00:20:49.160 ⇒ 00:20:53.210 Uttam Kumaran: to be done here, and I instead, I would love to.
168 00:20:53.230 ⇒ 00:21:04.919 Uttam Kumaran: If there’s things like, you know, I think we do have some urgency around the nav bar. And some of these site changes. So like, yeah, if if we need like, you know, 20 HA week for the next few weeks, but
169 00:21:05.240 ⇒ 00:21:11.740 Uttam Kumaran: again it may be somewhere between 5 and 20 h per week for the foreseeable future.
170 00:21:12.054 ⇒ 00:21:15.129 Uttam Kumaran: But I guess. Let me know. What do you think about an engagement like that.
171 00:21:15.410 ⇒ 00:21:25.339 Jaypee Arriola: Yeah, yeah, I’m asking, because that’s cause I’m thinking of the you know it. It can just pricing and contract that can work with most of us
172 00:21:25.956 ⇒ 00:21:31.659 Jaypee Arriola: so instead of of a full time, or a sort of a you know, half time
173 00:21:32.250 ⇒ 00:21:39.750 Jaypee Arriola: contract, I’m thinking maybe we can just do some sort of subscription. Well, what do you think about that like? Say.
174 00:21:39.750 ⇒ 00:21:48.359 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, I mean, you tell me, like, what the yeah. You tell me what the scope and pricing is, and then kind of like what your expectations
175 00:21:48.750 ⇒ 00:21:53.259 Uttam Kumaran: for availability are. And yeah, I’m I’m open to to discuss it.
176 00:21:53.260 ⇒ 00:22:00.259 Jaypee Arriola: Cause. I’m thinking, maybe we can. We can start with the subscription. It’s not like not like a salary that you can
177 00:22:00.430 ⇒ 00:22:05.149 Jaypee Arriola: is you can send to someone that’s for full time, because full time it’s gonna cost you a lot.
178 00:22:05.725 ⇒ 00:22:07.119 Jaypee Arriola: But it’s like.
179 00:22:07.430 ⇒ 00:22:09.870 Jaypee Arriola: since the subscription, it can be
180 00:22:09.950 ⇒ 00:22:11.200 Jaypee Arriola: lesser.
181 00:22:11.690 ⇒ 00:22:13.370 Uttam Kumaran: Scale up and scale up and down.
182 00:22:13.370 ⇒ 00:22:21.740 Jaypee Arriola: Yeah. But yeah, because in because the work we could could scale up and down, too. So maybe a subscription is the better
183 00:22:23.320 ⇒ 00:22:26.486 Jaypee Arriola: setup for us. What do you think like, maybe
184 00:22:27.640 ⇒ 00:22:29.070 Jaypee Arriola: 500 a month.
185 00:22:29.690 ⇒ 00:22:31.950 Jaypee Arriola: If you’re okay with that? Yeah, then I can.
186 00:22:31.950 ⇒ 00:22:32.420 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
187 00:22:32.420 ⇒ 00:22:33.989 Jaypee Arriola: I can work on.
188 00:22:35.850 ⇒ 00:22:45.489 Jaypee Arriola: I can work on fixing web flow functionalities, adding all also, actually all everything that you said to me. I can work in
189 00:22:45.924 ⇒ 00:22:52.390 Jaypee Arriola: but maybe I can work on it on on the environment with the subscription subscription type
190 00:22:52.560 ⇒ 00:22:54.840 Jaypee Arriola: of deal.
191 00:22:55.040 ⇒ 00:22:55.960 Jaypee Arriola: What do you think.
192 00:22:55.960 ⇒ 00:23:19.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, for me. I I would prefer that as well, like one that reduces a headache of like tracking, you know, like a ton of hours, and as long as we’re in agreement of like kind of like what the expectations are, then that’s perfectly fine. I will say we’re I am speaking to a couple of more people. You know about it. But you know again, I out of all profiles like I really liked
193 00:23:20.221 ⇒ 00:23:21.930 Uttam Kumaran: kind of like the way
194 00:23:22.050 ⇒ 00:23:31.700 Uttam Kumaran: the the way you’ve articulated here, and kind of the stuff that you’ve done so. I think like that’s certainly something that we can agree to, and as long as we
195 00:23:31.730 ⇒ 00:23:35.414 Uttam Kumaran: you know, the one thing I I guess I would ask is like, if if
196 00:23:35.690 ⇒ 00:23:47.199 Uttam Kumaran: we can set some timelines on, you know, some of those small, more urgent fixes, and then we can work together on yeah, like the longer the longer term stuff.
197 00:23:47.700 ⇒ 00:23:53.193 Jaypee Arriola: Yeah. A subscription also allows me to work on weekends, too, just because you know,
198 00:23:53.990 ⇒ 00:23:59.009 Jaypee Arriola: the the deal is to to finish the the tasks
199 00:23:59.320 ⇒ 00:24:00.550 Jaypee Arriola: that’s needed to be done.
200 00:24:00.550 ⇒ 00:24:01.160 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
201 00:24:01.320 ⇒ 00:24:05.890 Jaypee Arriola: So it’s it’s not sort of constrainted. There’s no
202 00:24:06.030 ⇒ 00:24:08.800 Jaypee Arriola: office lay constraint for that.
203 00:24:08.910 ⇒ 00:24:10.309 Jaypee Arriola: because it’s not unplanned.
204 00:24:10.310 ⇒ 00:24:11.030 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
205 00:24:11.630 ⇒ 00:24:13.110 Jaypee Arriola: Yeah, so
206 00:24:14.510 ⇒ 00:24:20.470 Jaypee Arriola: that’s cool. Yeah, so maybe we can start this weekend
207 00:24:21.463 ⇒ 00:24:24.690 Jaypee Arriola: start with a subscription of 500.
208 00:24:24.920 ⇒ 00:24:25.770 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
209 00:24:25.770 ⇒ 00:24:29.880 Jaypee Arriola: Then you can send over the tasks. Whatever possible.
210 00:24:31.220 ⇒ 00:24:37.269 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And are you in, are you? Are you? You’re. You’re good with using like slack and things like that.
211 00:24:38.020 ⇒ 00:24:43.419 Jaypee Arriola: Yeah, I use slack. I use Skype and Whatsapp, whatever you’re comfortable with.
212 00:24:43.850 ⇒ 00:25:05.799 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Yeah, we’ll probably do everything on slack and then, yeah, give me until, like, maybe, like Monday or Tuesday. And I’m just gonna meet with my team. And then again, I’m I’m talking to a couple of other web flow folks as well. So just wanna run through the process with everybody. But again, like, I think I think, 5 under a month, and then starting to work towards that, I think, would work out well.
213 00:25:06.550 ⇒ 00:25:11.870 Jaypee Arriola: Awesome. Sure. Sure, I’m happy. I’m I’m glad it’s it’s okay for you.
214 00:25:12.070 ⇒ 00:25:12.990 Jaypee Arriola: I think that’s the.
215 00:25:12.990 ⇒ 00:25:16.719 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And then where where are you? Where are you based? By the way.
216 00:25:17.768 ⇒ 00:25:18.840 Jaypee Arriola: I’m in the Philippines.
217 00:25:19.740 ⇒ 00:25:20.125 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
218 00:25:20.640 ⇒ 00:25:21.570 Uttam Kumaran: where in the.
219 00:25:21.570 ⇒ 00:25:21.990 Jaypee Arriola: Focus on.
220 00:25:21.990 ⇒ 00:25:26.409 Uttam Kumaran: We have a. We have one person working with us on the data side, who’s in Cebu City.
221 00:25:26.410 ⇒ 00:25:27.110 Jaypee Arriola: Happens.
222 00:25:27.420 ⇒ 00:25:30.899 Jaypee Arriola: Oh, I’m in Manila close to Manila.
223 00:25:31.910 ⇒ 00:25:32.820 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Cool.
224 00:25:33.058 ⇒ 00:25:36.880 Jaypee Arriola: But I’m you can call it but time, because I know it’s hard for you to
225 00:25:37.000 ⇒ 00:25:38.560 Jaypee Arriola: to say. Batangas.
226 00:25:38.860 ⇒ 00:25:39.770 Uttam Kumaran: Time nest.
227 00:25:40.330 ⇒ 00:25:40.890 Jaypee Arriola: You know.
228 00:25:40.890 ⇒ 00:25:42.759 Uttam Kumaran: It’s almost sounds like a Spanish name.
229 00:25:43.581 ⇒ 00:25:46.680 Jaypee Arriola: It does sound like a Spanish name. Yeah, but it’s nice.
230 00:25:46.680 ⇒ 00:25:48.180 Uttam Kumaran: Tanya’s. Yeah.
231 00:25:48.558 ⇒ 00:25:54.030 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, I’m looking on the map. It looks like a very nice place. Yeah, like, I can see the whole like Cape, the bay.
232 00:25:54.030 ⇒ 00:25:54.670 Jaypee Arriola: Yeah.
233 00:25:54.960 ⇒ 00:25:57.370 Jaypee Arriola: less would be chess. And
234 00:25:57.590 ⇒ 00:25:58.670 Jaypee Arriola: vlad so long
235 00:25:59.710 ⇒ 00:26:02.230 Jaypee Arriola: not in my place.
236 00:26:07.130 ⇒ 00:26:09.540 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, and you pronounce your name. Jp.
237 00:26:10.120 ⇒ 00:26:11.849 Jaypee Arriola: Yeah. Just the j, end of p.
238 00:26:11.850 ⇒ 00:26:12.510 Uttam Kumaran: Typing.
239 00:26:12.760 ⇒ 00:26:14.489 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, perfect.
240 00:26:14.760 ⇒ 00:26:17.540 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Jp, I really appreciate. Thank you again for hopping on.
241 00:26:17.980 ⇒ 00:26:18.299 Uttam Kumaran: I know.
242 00:26:18.485 ⇒ 00:26:19.229 Jaypee Arriola: I was not excited.
243 00:26:19.230 ⇒ 00:26:20.440 Uttam Kumaran: Availability.
244 00:26:22.270 ⇒ 00:26:25.220 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, no, I just I I don’t mind either way. I just sometimes you know.
245 00:26:25.220 ⇒ 00:26:25.750 Jaypee Arriola: It’s good.
246 00:26:25.750 ⇒ 00:26:30.720 Uttam Kumaran: They have. I’m in meetings all day. So sometimes you don’t want to be on camera. It’s fine. Yeah.
247 00:26:31.576 ⇒ 00:26:33.410 Jaypee Arriola: Thank you. I appreciate that.
248 00:26:34.580 ⇒ 00:26:40.000 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. So let me get back in touch with you early next week, and then we’ll go from there.
249 00:26:40.750 ⇒ 00:26:42.040 Jaypee Arriola: So catch you soon.
250 00:26:42.620 ⇒ 00:26:44.130 Jaypee Arriola: Okay, thank you so much.
251 00:26:44.740 ⇒ 00:26:45.430 Jaypee Arriola: If you’re.
252 00:26:45.430 ⇒ 00:26:46.170 Uttam Kumaran: Appreciate it
253 00:26:46.570 ⇒ 00:26:47.930 Uttam Kumaran: bye. Alright.