Meeting Title: Zoom-Meeting Date: 2024-07-09 Meeting participants: Nicolas Sucari, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:01:24.250 ⇒ 00:01:25.060 Nicolas Sucari: Hi! Yoda.
2 00:01:25.620 ⇒ 00:01:26.250 Uttam Kumaran: Nico.
3 00:01:27.840 ⇒ 00:01:28.590 Nicolas Sucari: How are you?
4 00:01:28.960 ⇒ 00:01:29.909 Uttam Kumaran: Good! How’s it going.
5 00:01:31.430 ⇒ 00:01:32.640 Nicolas Sucari: I’m I’m good.
6 00:01:34.296 ⇒ 00:01:41.479 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I just, I guess, like a couple of things this week. I just feel like we’re really losing track of like a bunch of things.
7 00:01:43.210 ⇒ 00:01:43.980 Nicolas Sucari: Eggs.
8 00:01:44.160 ⇒ 00:01:56.162 Uttam Kumaran: I think. There’s like a bunch of stuff going for Stella and poor cool parts. And I’m not. It doesn’t feel like I’m really able to step away. So wanna see? Like what’s what we can do?
9 00:01:56.470 ⇒ 00:01:56.880 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
10 00:01:56.880 ⇒ 00:02:00.700 Uttam Kumaran: Yesterday, you know, we had a bunch of the planning meetings, but even
11 00:02:00.830 ⇒ 00:02:02.663 Uttam Kumaran: we still don’t have, like
12 00:02:03.120 ⇒ 00:02:06.409 Uttam Kumaran: you know, like due dates on a lot of things. I still think
13 00:02:06.710 ⇒ 00:02:09.529 Uttam Kumaran: I’m I’m getting asked a ton of questions.
14 00:02:10.093 ⇒ 00:02:16.889 Uttam Kumaran: You know, in both channels. When there’s things that they can. People can resolve directly or or with you initially.
15 00:02:17.805 ⇒ 00:02:20.060 Uttam Kumaran: So just wanna think of like what we can do cause.
16 00:02:20.350 ⇒ 00:02:20.640 Nicolas Sucari: I’m.
17 00:02:20.640 ⇒ 00:02:30.395 Uttam Kumaran: I’m not having. I’m not even today, like already, in the 1st hour, I’m getting like so many questions. So I’m want to know, like, what’s like, what we can do there.
18 00:02:30.720 ⇒ 00:02:34.304 Uttam Kumaran: And then also, like, yeah, end of week, I I wanna start sending out
19 00:02:35.220 ⇒ 00:02:37.252 Uttam Kumaran: like recap emails to
20 00:02:38.520 ⇒ 00:02:39.730 Uttam Kumaran: to Stella as well.
21 00:02:39.995 ⇒ 00:02:40.260 Nicolas Sucari: The.
22 00:02:40.555 ⇒ 00:02:45.279 Uttam Kumaran: And like, have that process just be done on Friday, even if I’m like able to.
23 00:02:45.280 ⇒ 00:02:46.019 Nicolas Sucari: We can kind of help.
24 00:02:46.020 ⇒ 00:02:51.389 Uttam Kumaran: Or not. So yeah, that’s just my, I just feel like, that’s my worry. Today.
25 00:02:51.970 ⇒ 00:02:57.190 Uttam Kumaran: Cause I need to spend all day today on on sales stuff, and I don’t know whether I’m gonna be able to do that.
26 00:02:57.190 ⇒ 00:02:58.989 Nicolas Sucari: Any system to be able to do that.
27 00:02:59.460 ⇒ 00:03:15.530 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, okay, yeah. I think for both parts, we’re not like so lost on stuff. I mean, everyone is like working on specific things. And I think that’s okay for Stella on the other way, it’s kind of yeah. I’m I’m also a little bit lost.
28 00:03:16.010 ⇒ 00:03:20.000 Nicolas Sucari: I’m not getting what Robert want from us at all.
29 00:03:20.070 ⇒ 00:03:26.940 Nicolas Sucari: Nick is kind of lost, and he’s kind of not not moving forward with stuff, and he’s like needing you a lot.
30 00:03:27.240 ⇒ 00:03:27.620 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
31 00:03:27.620 ⇒ 00:03:33.949 Nicolas Sucari: I know if it will be worth to like. Introduce Brian to Stella, too, so that he can help there.
32 00:03:34.308 ⇒ 00:03:49.920 Nicolas Sucari: But I don’t think we are getting like a lot of things done on Stella side. I know that when you like get involved in that, we move like a lot faster. But I think like if he’s like trying to do anything now, we still block them stuff.
33 00:03:50.060 ⇒ 00:03:52.609 Nicolas Sucari: I’m kind of a bit lost, too. There.
34 00:03:52.870 ⇒ 00:04:02.199 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah. On the Stella side, I think, like, you know, the ultimate thing out of all this is like, when, if we feel blocked on things. We just have to talk
35 00:04:02.390 ⇒ 00:04:05.459 Uttam Kumaran: right like. So that’s the biggest thing I realized
36 00:04:05.610 ⇒ 00:04:15.100 Uttam Kumaran: when I was doing like, pm, sort of stuff is that like worst case. We just have meetings and like for me, if the stellar thing is blocked, then
37 00:04:15.110 ⇒ 00:04:17.529 Uttam Kumaran: again, I don’t think it’s, I think.
38 00:04:17.850 ⇒ 00:04:28.449 Uttam Kumaran: like in your in what you said you left out that you have to be like really understanding of what Stella is, because even if I get involved, that’s not the expectation longer term right, so that.
39 00:04:28.450 ⇒ 00:04:29.780 Nicolas Sucari: Seeing it. Yeah, of course.
40 00:04:29.780 ⇒ 00:04:43.399 Uttam Kumaran: If you, if you, Nick and Robert, or if you and Robert need to meet every day to make that happen, then I would propose that right like, start with the heaviest hand. Because what’s gonna happen is like if we start inching towards these.
41 00:04:43.440 ⇒ 00:05:02.959 Uttam Kumaran: you know, we’re gonna end up in the same place. So if you’re like, Hey, Robert, I don’t have a good sense of like what we’re even doing here. Then I would try to grab time with him as much as possible to make that happen right and like. Take me out of the equation because I want to be there as like a as like a plan. C.
42 00:05:03.454 ⇒ 00:05:12.480 Uttam Kumaran: Right? Even like, even with Jacob and pool parts like Jacob should be working with Brian and Ryan if they’re not responsive. Then that’s a different problem.
43 00:05:12.510 ⇒ 00:05:14.799 Uttam Kumaran: right? But like I need him to go
44 00:05:14.870 ⇒ 00:05:33.479 Uttam Kumaran: to work with them. Or, again, if they’re not meeting, then you have to organize a meeting between everybody, right? Like I don’t that we’re still having the problem where, like, there’s mismatch, and like a 2 days goes by, and it’s fine like if we miss a 1 day. But if, like, 3 days goes by, and Jacob’s like waiting to talk to me.
45 00:05:33.590 ⇒ 00:05:37.517 Uttam Kumaran: and that’s something that is not is like isn’t right.
46 00:05:37.910 ⇒ 00:05:38.390 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, yeah.
47 00:05:38.390 ⇒ 00:05:42.860 Uttam Kumaran: So so that’s where I think we gotta just be a lot more heavy handed because
48 00:05:43.420 ⇒ 00:05:50.040 Uttam Kumaran: one still like, I’m not exactly sure about about due dates, and that’s not allowed us to really like
49 00:05:50.240 ⇒ 00:05:55.830 Uttam Kumaran: get forward on like planning, you know, because and that’s something that again, like
50 00:05:56.880 ⇒ 00:06:05.920 Uttam Kumaran: I I don’t really know exactly like what to do. If you ask me, I would. Just, I’m gonna start asking people like when things are due and like what in the progress every day. But
51 00:06:05.940 ⇒ 00:06:11.720 Uttam Kumaran: the problem is, I can’t. I can’t do that, and and also handle all the sales stuff. So I kind of like, really need you to
52 00:06:12.100 ⇒ 00:06:21.060 Uttam Kumaran: hop on and try to like, get that organized cause. The the problem is is like, if if I can’t take a couple of days and just like, go focus. Externally.
53 00:06:21.110 ⇒ 00:06:24.163 Uttam Kumaran: Really, the growth is is gonna stall.
54 00:06:24.600 ⇒ 00:06:25.289 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I know. I know.
55 00:06:25.830 ⇒ 00:06:28.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So that’s the that’s the biggest thing is that
56 00:06:29.000 ⇒ 00:06:31.580 Uttam Kumaran: wherever you have doubts just
57 00:06:31.770 ⇒ 00:06:35.580 Uttam Kumaran: like get through it. You know, via meetings, or whatever
58 00:06:36.560 ⇒ 00:06:38.339 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I’ve been talking a lot about
59 00:06:38.400 ⇒ 00:06:57.539 Nicolas Sucari: parts with Jacob, with Patrick and Ryan. That parties where it’s. It’s okay. I’m getting what we are doing. I think I have like a great understanding of what the client wants to, so doesn’t like. i i i’m not like. It’s not an issue. Of course I need to talk more with Jacob. That’s
60 00:06:57.890 ⇒ 00:07:02.763 Nicolas Sucari: probably true, but also Jacob has kind of those time slots available
61 00:07:03.580 ⇒ 00:07:07.330 Nicolas Sucari: afternoon, and that makes it a little bit difficult, but I’m gonna try to make him
62 00:07:07.400 ⇒ 00:07:15.619 Nicolas Sucari: more with Brian and Ryan so that we can get more things done. I’m always trying to give things to Ryan so that we can
63 00:07:15.630 ⇒ 00:07:18.289 Nicolas Sucari: and keep working on this.
64 00:07:19.600 ⇒ 00:07:35.599 Nicolas Sucari: I’m not like, be blocked by anything, or because he doesn’t have anything to do so. I’m always trying to give him something to do. I think he’s okay now. But don’t tell us idea. I tried to talk to Nick a couple of times, and he was like, Hey, I’m not doing this because Forward hasn’t given me
65 00:07:35.650 ⇒ 00:07:41.930 Nicolas Sucari: the right definitions or that stuff, so probably I will get some time with Robert and Nick, and try to
66 00:07:42.210 ⇒ 00:07:48.489 Nicolas Sucari: understand a little bit better what they are doing, and how we can make it easier for everyone, so that we can move forward.
67 00:07:49.060 ⇒ 00:07:52.641 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, on the on the stellar side. I would do that because
68 00:07:53.100 ⇒ 00:07:55.239 Uttam Kumaran: I can. Just, I have a sense
69 00:07:55.270 ⇒ 00:08:01.029 Uttam Kumaran: that we’re going to be in like a risk territory. Cause I I can. I just read what he’s saying about the client.
70 00:08:01.120 ⇒ 00:08:06.480 Uttam Kumaran: and we’re not making. We are. We’re doing a lot of work, but it’s just not getting into his hands.
71 00:08:06.590 ⇒ 00:08:13.920 Uttam Kumaran: And then, same, I think same thing on the pool part side is the real work that gets shown is the analysis work.
72 00:08:14.180 ⇒ 00:08:19.559 Uttam Kumaran: And so the one thing I need to, if if you’re like, hey, the hours that Jacob has
73 00:08:19.670 ⇒ 00:08:27.690 Uttam Kumaran: or is communicate or like something is not conducive, then we need to. We need to either add people or make a change there, because I don’t want that to be the reason
74 00:08:27.700 ⇒ 00:08:47.440 Uttam Kumaran: that we lose on that same thing with like with Brian, with Brian like, and Ryan like both of them. You know there’s work that needs to come from Jacob to them, but it needs to be organized and requirements, and they’re not going to be able to do it. If there’s no issues for that sort of stuff. So I wanna make sure that that’s all
75 00:08:47.600 ⇒ 00:08:49.189 Uttam Kumaran: like settled there
76 00:08:49.370 ⇒ 00:08:53.490 Uttam Kumaran: and then and then again, like, I think you you like
77 00:08:53.750 ⇒ 00:09:05.960 Uttam Kumaran: for for me. I don’t. Wanna. The the nervousness that I have is if I step away for a few hours, then I’m like just waiting to log back in to basically see like what’s gone wrong. That’s really it’s that’s the difficult part for me.
78 00:09:07.450 ⇒ 00:09:16.779 Uttam Kumaran: that I’m trying to like. See? I think we made a lot of good progress. I think it’s it’s still like always going to be like a work in progress on how we get
79 00:09:16.850 ⇒ 00:09:20.690 Uttam Kumaran: continue to like, get you into that position and get me slowly.
80 00:09:20.870 ⇒ 00:09:25.160 Uttam Kumaran: like out of there, because some of the sales work is taking me quite a while.
81 00:09:26.480 ⇒ 00:09:35.440 Uttam Kumaran: and it’s it’s just like if I lose half day here a whole day here to work that to engineering work. It’s it’s it’s tough. So.
82 00:09:36.500 ⇒ 00:09:37.869 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, yeah.
83 00:09:38.410 ⇒ 00:09:41.689 Nicolas Sucari: perfect. Okay, I’m gonna try to be more
84 00:09:42.350 ⇒ 00:09:48.879 Nicolas Sucari: yeah. Next to Nick and Robert, I’m gonna ask Robert to have some time today, probably, so that we can talk.
85 00:09:48.970 ⇒ 00:09:58.665 Nicolas Sucari: He can explain a little bit better what he’s expecting, and then, if Nick is not being responsible to our side. Probably we all need like Brian or someone.
86 00:09:59.350 ⇒ 00:10:00.330 Nicolas Sucari: I think, okay.
87 00:10:02.270 ⇒ 00:10:02.760 Nicolas Sucari: yeah.
88 00:10:02.760 ⇒ 00:10:17.190 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine. Yeah. And then and then I think the last thing is also on on each of the, on both Stella and pool parts like, there’s probably only like 3 major priorities. Right? And so that’s also the thing is like just to be clear on a given week, like
89 00:10:17.260 ⇒ 00:10:30.880 Uttam Kumaran: we need to get the email thing done. We need to get the shipping thing done. And then we need to help Kim get on board and onto real right? That’s it. So whatever else comes up, we basically need to continue to be like.
90 00:10:31.050 ⇒ 00:10:33.300 Uttam Kumaran: is that gonna happen this week or not
91 00:10:33.390 ⇒ 00:10:43.319 Uttam Kumaran: right for any given week. And so I think in that sense it’s a lot simpler like, it’s only like 6. It’s only probably like 6 things. And I think the biggest thing is that new things come up.
92 00:10:43.360 ⇒ 00:10:59.429 Uttam Kumaran: There’s a lot of, for example, I have to email some stuff for direct mail like, there’s all these random things that that’s what it’s kind of like. If I come in, I’m going to be like cool like you talk to this person. You talk to this person that’s kind of where, like, I want us to. I want you to kind of start to own
93 00:10:59.898 ⇒ 00:11:03.481 Uttam Kumaran: because I think it’s gonna work right. But I think it’s it’s
94 00:11:03.910 ⇒ 00:11:07.810 Uttam Kumaran: It’s gonna take a little bit of a heavy hand from you in terms of just like
95 00:11:07.840 ⇒ 00:11:17.679 Uttam Kumaran: being on top of everything until you can start to say, Okay, now, I know, like Jacob, you gotta go talk to this person. You gotta go talk to this person. I think that’s the thing I’m expecting so.
96 00:11:18.380 ⇒ 00:11:20.340 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, perfect. That’s that’s okay.
97 00:11:20.920 ⇒ 00:11:30.690 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. I’ll be online today. I’m probably gonna spend like another like hour on engineering work. But I really need, like most of the day to focus on some external stuff.
98 00:11:30.990 ⇒ 00:11:35.159 Uttam Kumaran: So I may just be offline for some period. I’ll try to get as much
99 00:11:35.600 ⇒ 00:11:38.330 Uttam Kumaran: done as I can. But yeah, again, I would just.
100 00:11:38.340 ⇒ 00:11:41.639 Uttam Kumaran: I would just call everybody as much as possible and then
101 00:11:41.830 ⇒ 00:11:45.116 Uttam Kumaran: get to the get to the answer so, and I appreciate.
102 00:11:45.440 ⇒ 00:11:47.200 Uttam Kumaran: You hearing me out on that, so.
103 00:11:47.970 ⇒ 00:11:50.930 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, that’s fine, perfect. I’m gonna be working on that.
104 00:11:51.190 ⇒ 00:11:51.840 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
105 00:11:52.460 ⇒ 00:11:57.344 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Yeah. Slack me slack me if you need anything.
106 00:11:57.720 ⇒ 00:11:58.300 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
107 00:11:58.490 ⇒ 00:11:59.530 Uttam Kumaran: And yeah, okay.
108 00:12:00.330 ⇒ 00:12:01.490 Nicolas Sucari: Perfect. Bye, guys.
109 00:12:01.490 ⇒ 00:12:02.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Thanks. Nico.