Meeting Title: Zoom-Meeting Date: 2024-06-28 Meeting participants: Nicolas Sucari, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:01:39.180 ⇒ 00:01:40.150 Nicolas Sucari: How you done.
2 00:01:40.650 ⇒ 00:01:41.330 Uttam Kumaran: Ace.
3 00:01:42.380 ⇒ 00:01:44.429 Nicolas Sucari: Just give me a minute. I’m making some.
4 00:01:44.875 ⇒ 00:01:45.320 Uttam Kumaran: Air.
5 00:01:46.160 ⇒ 00:01:47.400 Uttam Kumaran: no rush.
6 00:01:49.080 ⇒ 00:01:50.270 Nicolas Sucari: How was your day?
7 00:01:51.690 ⇒ 00:01:54.510 Uttam Kumaran: Hey has been calm. Actually.
8 00:01:55.090 ⇒ 00:01:56.100 Uttam Kumaran: I’m like.
9 00:01:56.710 ⇒ 00:01:57.600 Uttam Kumaran: I like
10 00:01:58.260 ⇒ 00:02:00.180 Uttam Kumaran: 60% done.
11 00:02:00.840 ⇒ 00:02:02.100 Uttam Kumaran: And
12 00:02:02.790 ⇒ 00:02:06.270 Uttam Kumaran: most of the small stuff is done. All the clothes
13 00:02:06.610 ⇒ 00:02:08.042 Uttam Kumaran: have to pack. But
14 00:02:09.270 ⇒ 00:02:13.128 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I’m watching the show called the bear. I don’t know if you’ve seen it on
15 00:02:13.370 ⇒ 00:02:14.250 Nicolas Sucari: No.
16 00:02:14.850 ⇒ 00:02:16.470 Uttam Kumaran: Good. You like cooking
17 00:02:16.530 ⇒ 00:02:19.080 Uttam Kumaran: like kind of like a restaurant drama.
18 00:02:20.631 ⇒ 00:02:23.990 Uttam Kumaran: But it’s like I’ve been just watching that packing so.
19 00:02:25.490 ⇒ 00:02:26.300 Nicolas Sucari: Nice.
20 00:02:27.990 ⇒ 00:02:34.929 Nicolas Sucari: It’s not easy to pack everything because you you need to think on how to pack. Then unpack right.
21 00:02:35.120 ⇒ 00:02:36.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And I’m not a
22 00:02:38.110 ⇒ 00:02:39.409 Uttam Kumaran: I’m kind of like.
23 00:02:39.540 ⇒ 00:02:44.619 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. It’s probably kind of similar to how I work like, I just do everything kind of at the same time.
24 00:02:45.270 ⇒ 00:02:49.509 Uttam Kumaran: because I I don’t really like. I kind of see. I see everything so
25 00:02:49.710 ⇒ 00:02:53.769 Uttam Kumaran: hard for me to be like in the kitchen and then finish the kitchen
26 00:02:53.780 ⇒ 00:02:58.520 Uttam Kumaran: cause. Then I’ll remember something’s over there, and I need to walk around and kinda like slowly.
27 00:02:59.390 ⇒ 00:03:04.820 Uttam Kumaran: But I have a plan. So that’s the thing is like, I know, I generally need to see everything. And I’m like, Okay, cool. It’s like.
28 00:03:05.060 ⇒ 00:03:08.140 Uttam Kumaran: go kind of like, methodically do different things like
29 00:03:08.200 ⇒ 00:03:13.279 Uttam Kumaran: build the rug vacuum, but then come back to kitchen and clean some stuff outside.
30 00:03:13.550 ⇒ 00:03:14.460 Uttam Kumaran: just like chirping.
31 00:03:14.460 ⇒ 00:03:15.310 Nicolas Sucari: And 5.
32 00:03:17.620 ⇒ 00:03:20.690 Uttam Kumaran: It’s doesn’t make. Yeah. It’s like, doesn’t make much sense. But
33 00:03:20.900 ⇒ 00:03:24.620 Uttam Kumaran: it’s it’s like, I wouldn’t be able to just work on the kitchen, cause.
34 00:03:24.920 ⇒ 00:03:27.809 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t know. It’s not. That’s not how I like. Would think.
35 00:03:29.610 ⇒ 00:03:30.600 Nicolas Sucari: That’s okay.
36 00:03:32.050 ⇒ 00:03:36.209 Nicolas Sucari: And you’re planning to finish everything tomorrow and wait for Sunday
37 00:03:36.440 ⇒ 00:03:37.989 Nicolas Sucari: with everything ready? Right?
38 00:03:38.300 ⇒ 00:03:42.169 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I would say, we’ll get to probably 80% done today.
39 00:03:42.610 ⇒ 00:03:43.970 Uttam Kumaran: Tomorrow.
40 00:03:45.160 ⇒ 00:03:50.330 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, honestly, I don’t know like cause I’ll just. I just will stay out the house tomorrow. Basically.
41 00:03:50.590 ⇒ 00:03:54.980 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, I’ll try to see. I’m I mean, I honestly want to get as much as I can done today.
42 00:03:56.940 ⇒ 00:04:00.779 Uttam Kumaran: the problem is like done means like just boxes everywhere. So.
43 00:04:00.780 ⇒ 00:04:02.290 Nicolas Sucari: Big things like.
44 00:04:02.290 ⇒ 00:04:06.490 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just like kinda like need to just make sure things are arranged in like a decent order.
45 00:04:07.260 ⇒ 00:04:07.850 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
46 00:04:07.850 ⇒ 00:04:09.879 Uttam Kumaran: And you know that should be okay.
47 00:04:11.060 ⇒ 00:04:11.979 Nicolas Sucari: That’s fine!
48 00:04:12.590 ⇒ 00:04:13.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
49 00:04:14.620 ⇒ 00:04:16.308 Nicolas Sucari: And the other house.
50 00:04:16.899 ⇒ 00:04:19.929 Nicolas Sucari: like it’s it’s empty. It’s kind of a new place.
51 00:04:20.589 ⇒ 00:04:22.489 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like, no, it’s actually furnished.
52 00:04:24.050 ⇒ 00:04:24.560 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
53 00:04:24.560 ⇒ 00:04:29.499 Uttam Kumaran: I’m mainly gonna be furnishing like bedroom and closets and stuff like that. But they have they still.
54 00:04:29.880 ⇒ 00:04:33.940 Uttam Kumaran: and I don’t have a ton of furniture like I have a couch and like one bed frame.
55 00:04:34.360 ⇒ 00:04:36.470 Uttam Kumaran: and like TV and stuff like that. But
56 00:04:36.500 ⇒ 00:04:41.690 Uttam Kumaran: it’s a little bit of a bigger place. So they actually are giving it to me furnished for, like some of the extra bedrooms and.
57 00:04:42.550 ⇒ 00:04:43.060 Nicolas Sucari: Nice, but.
58 00:04:43.333 ⇒ 00:04:44.976 Uttam Kumaran: Stuff, which is really nice like
59 00:04:46.560 ⇒ 00:04:50.309 Uttam Kumaran: saves me a lot of money, but then I’ll start to like kind of switch things up so.
60 00:04:50.310 ⇒ 00:04:51.000 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
61 00:04:51.130 ⇒ 00:04:52.150 Nicolas Sucari: obviously.
62 00:04:52.640 ⇒ 00:04:53.080 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
63 00:04:53.080 ⇒ 00:04:53.970 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
64 00:04:54.130 ⇒ 00:04:55.340 Nicolas Sucari: it’s great.
65 00:04:55.810 ⇒ 00:05:01.970 Nicolas Sucari: I hope everything goes well on Sunday you can move easily, and it’s not stressful ahead.
66 00:05:02.350 ⇒ 00:05:03.439 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
67 00:05:08.690 ⇒ 00:05:11.539 Nicolas Sucari: I’ve been doing a lot today with Jared
68 00:05:11.660 ⇒ 00:05:13.160 Nicolas Sucari: Patrick Nice.
69 00:05:14.100 ⇒ 00:05:18.719 Nicolas Sucari: We talked with the evidence people because we were
70 00:05:18.800 ⇒ 00:05:21.200 Nicolas Sucari: yeah running through some errors.
71 00:05:21.794 ⇒ 00:05:33.469 Nicolas Sucari: But we could actually figure we actually figured out well on on my computer. I can. I can run locally evidence now. But Jared, still having some issues, we’ll continue on Monday trying to back that.
72 00:05:33.940 ⇒ 00:05:34.560 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
73 00:05:41.452 ⇒ 00:05:45.550 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I couldn’t talk to Ryan today about Dvt. And elementary.
74 00:05:46.033 ⇒ 00:05:48.200 Nicolas Sucari: He told me he already
75 00:05:48.230 ⇒ 00:05:52.410 Nicolas Sucari: discussed about that with Priya, and he will continue to do it.
76 00:05:52.550 ⇒ 00:05:59.020 Nicolas Sucari: We we will continue to do that on next week, probably. I ask him to to like
77 00:05:59.900 ⇒ 00:06:02.999 Nicolas Sucari: to go through that introduction myself
78 00:06:03.120 ⇒ 00:06:12.439 Nicolas Sucari: so that I can create documents. Understand? If we if there is something that we can like set up some process or something.
79 00:06:12.560 ⇒ 00:06:15.190 Nicolas Sucari: So I’m I’m gonna be doing that next week with Ryan.
80 00:06:16.000 ⇒ 00:06:16.680 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
81 00:06:16.840 ⇒ 00:06:17.335 Uttam Kumaran: Great.
82 00:06:18.490 ⇒ 00:06:20.684 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I think we’re doing great.
83 00:06:21.070 ⇒ 00:06:27.020 Nicolas Sucari: Then Jacob was going forward with the making some progress with the shipment stuff.
84 00:06:27.210 ⇒ 00:06:28.460 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I’m
85 00:06:28.620 ⇒ 00:06:33.610 Nicolas Sucari: and they wasn’t able to talk with Brian today. I don’t know if he’s around or not.
86 00:06:33.660 ⇒ 00:06:37.910 Nicolas Sucari: because I sent some messages to the Ballpark Channel, and he didn’t answer.
87 00:06:38.510 ⇒ 00:06:43.126 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think probably I wanna we can get a good sense of the remaining stuff. I think they
88 00:06:43.720 ⇒ 00:06:54.019 Uttam Kumaran: on the shipping side, I think they did a pretty good job. But there’s still some errors. The nice thing is, Brian is like, really, he’s probably at like my level of understanding or close.
89 00:06:54.120 ⇒ 00:06:57.209 Uttam Kumaran: I want him to complete it like I don’t wanna get involved.
90 00:06:57.775 ⇒ 00:07:01.079 Uttam Kumaran: But they’re very close on that. And then the nice thing is
91 00:07:01.170 ⇒ 00:07:04.930 Uttam Kumaran: now that he has a good understanding, Jacob has like follow ups, and so him and
92 00:07:05.070 ⇒ 00:07:06.520 Uttam Kumaran: Jacob and him can meet.
93 00:07:07.090 ⇒ 00:07:09.389 Uttam Kumaran: So I’ve kind of like, you know my
94 00:07:09.480 ⇒ 00:07:14.709 Uttam Kumaran: my thought on like getting myself out of there. Seems like it’s like working out well.
95 00:07:16.350 ⇒ 00:07:17.130 Nicolas Sucari: Perfect.
96 00:07:18.130 ⇒ 00:07:21.539 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. The only thing is that I can’t like
97 00:07:22.292 ⇒ 00:07:28.419 Nicolas Sucari: if we don’t have that in the board like I can’t get a sense of what’s going on right.
98 00:07:30.150 ⇒ 00:07:30.750 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
99 00:07:30.750 ⇒ 00:07:36.180 Nicolas Sucari: It’s difficult to me to like. Understand what’s going on. If if I can see anything
100 00:07:37.086 ⇒ 00:07:39.719 Nicolas Sucari: like moving on that board.
101 00:07:40.250 ⇒ 00:07:45.159 Nicolas Sucari: it’s kind of always is like the biggest issue for the project manager. I know it.
102 00:07:45.510 ⇒ 00:07:46.740 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. But
103 00:07:47.620 ⇒ 00:07:57.140 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, I’m trying to understand if what we have in the board actually reflects what we are working on, or we can like improve something there, so that we can
104 00:07:57.150 ⇒ 00:08:01.299 Nicolas Sucari: also have, like, what is actually happening behind the scenes. Right?
105 00:08:01.900 ⇒ 00:08:03.131 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, no, I think.
106 00:08:05.470 ⇒ 00:08:06.145 Uttam Kumaran: think.
107 00:08:07.870 ⇒ 00:08:09.649 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, one is
108 00:08:10.450 ⇒ 00:08:15.399 Uttam Kumaran: the the tickets do change as we kind of start to execute them.
109 00:08:15.500 ⇒ 00:08:20.680 Uttam Kumaran: One is like, you know, we can tackle it by getting better planning this.
110 00:08:20.840 ⇒ 00:08:23.379 Uttam Kumaran: The second thing is like as they change
111 00:08:23.680 ⇒ 00:08:28.009 Uttam Kumaran: basically updating the ticket to reflect like, okay, what is the actual deliver Bill?
112 00:08:30.080 ⇒ 00:08:33.870 Uttam Kumaran: problem isn’t just like dealing with these like ticket updates. So.
113 00:08:35.059 ⇒ 00:08:35.629 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
114 00:08:36.280 ⇒ 00:08:37.790 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just very tough.
115 00:08:37.940 ⇒ 00:08:42.200 Uttam Kumaran: because I’ll join a call with these guys and we just work on stuff. And then.
116 00:08:42.669 ⇒ 00:08:43.899 Nicolas Sucari: No, no, you know 10.
117 00:08:43.900 ⇒ 00:08:48.659 Uttam Kumaran: It meaning like I I don’t know. We need some other process to do that, or something.
118 00:08:50.300 ⇒ 00:08:51.210 Nicolas Sucari: Fine.
119 00:08:52.380 ⇒ 00:09:05.080 Nicolas Sucari: I I mean that that’s okay. But if we at least have, like the act, kind of my broadly what we need to do in those tickets. That would be fine if we then are like working on a lot of different stuff.
120 00:09:05.499 ⇒ 00:09:25.090 Nicolas Sucari: That’s what is actually like. Difficult. I think we are pretty covered with everything. Probably we need like to keep asking the the guys to keep that changing the status and moving the tickets across the board. But then not getting like right into the details. But if we are working on something about
121 00:09:25.520 ⇒ 00:09:36.680 Nicolas Sucari: shipment, for example, or what what Brian was working on, and there is like no tickets or anything there. We should probably add something, so that we know what what it’s being done on that
122 00:09:37.060 ⇒ 00:09:38.560 Nicolas Sucari: on that matter. Right?
123 00:09:39.020 ⇒ 00:09:42.193 Nicolas Sucari: I think we have. We have almost everything.
124 00:09:42.880 ⇒ 00:09:45.519 Nicolas Sucari: But yeah. And then the one I think, like
125 00:09:45.730 ⇒ 00:10:07.680 Nicolas Sucari: Patrick is the the one that changes like more from like minute to minutes what he’s working on but then I think the rest is pretty good. Ryan is following like really good. What we have on the board. You work from the tests that we said for this week, and Jacob, like the work that he’s doing, is like.
126 00:10:07.860 ⇒ 00:10:14.470 Nicolas Sucari: I can understand it more easily, because it’s analysis, and it’s more kind of something that I can see right.
127 00:10:16.680 ⇒ 00:10:17.490 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
128 00:10:17.900 ⇒ 00:10:24.060 Uttam Kumaran: Brian is like, yeah, I mean, you’re right. The engineers. This is always gonna be an issue. I’m trying to think of like.
129 00:10:24.060 ⇒ 00:10:24.929 Nicolas Sucari: I know, but.
130 00:10:24.930 ⇒ 00:10:28.409 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, we did. How did it go with the thing today where you’ve messaged everybody.
131 00:10:30.260 ⇒ 00:10:31.210 Nicolas Sucari: So
132 00:10:31.530 ⇒ 00:10:52.559 Nicolas Sucari: I message everybody, and just Ryan and and Jacob answered, with Ryan. I totally understand. There were 2 of the tickets that we said for this week that are already done, at least the tests for the reporting models and the shipping models that are already done. And then he’s still working on
133 00:10:54.400 ⇒ 00:10:56.180 Nicolas Sucari: on on the
134 00:10:56.890 ⇒ 00:10:59.539 Nicolas Sucari: on the unit stuff that is still blocked.
135 00:10:59.550 ⇒ 00:11:10.429 Nicolas Sucari: and then the there he he had an Rt getting reviewed that we can close that one so already. Close it. It was updating like light dash with something on shipping that was working last week.
136 00:11:10.914 ⇒ 00:11:26.639 Nicolas Sucari: And then he’s still working on some other stuff with Priya, I think and then Jacob will also answer that he’s working on the shipping zones. And yeah, for pro and consumers. We already finished that. We need to set the backlog for the analytic engineers
137 00:11:27.195 ⇒ 00:11:30.849 Nicolas Sucari: and nothing else, because Patrick didn’t answer, and Brian
138 00:11:30.920 ⇒ 00:11:31.960 Nicolas Sucari: either, too.
139 00:11:32.560 ⇒ 00:11:36.230 Nicolas Sucari: and I know that Brian is has been working a lot, but I don’t know like.
140 00:11:36.500 ⇒ 00:11:44.530 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine like, so this. So this round compare. So compared to like what we talked about last week is like, last week.
141 00:11:45.190 ⇒ 00:11:49.219 Uttam Kumaran: basically, we were like, Okay, we’re we’re moving towards a stand up bot
142 00:11:49.340 ⇒ 00:11:51.949 Uttam Kumaran: moving towards like more communication, slack
143 00:11:52.210 ⇒ 00:11:54.489 Uttam Kumaran: and like kind of like what we accomplished.
144 00:11:55.000 ⇒ 00:11:56.849 Uttam Kumaran: I think this week.
145 00:11:57.610 ⇒ 00:12:00.269 Uttam Kumaran: More interesting is like
146 00:12:01.120 ⇒ 00:12:03.320 Uttam Kumaran: on Wednesday. Maybe
147 00:12:03.430 ⇒ 00:12:08.069 Uttam Kumaran: it’s great to get like this message that goes on like update tickets
148 00:12:08.540 ⇒ 00:12:10.510 Uttam Kumaran: is maybe something that’s like
149 00:12:10.870 ⇒ 00:12:11.770 Uttam Kumaran: we should.
150 00:12:11.770 ⇒ 00:12:12.920 Nicolas Sucari: Should be earlier
151 00:12:13.090 ⇒ 00:12:14.340 Nicolas Sucari: earlier on the week.
152 00:12:15.290 ⇒ 00:12:16.920 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I don’t know.
153 00:12:17.730 ⇒ 00:12:18.740 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
154 00:12:21.250 ⇒ 00:12:27.359 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, our options are people like, either we create something automated that like sends this out, basically.
155 00:12:27.390 ⇒ 00:12:30.960 Uttam Kumaran: or we in the stand up. Bot, there’s something that like
156 00:12:31.260 ⇒ 00:12:33.660 Uttam Kumaran: gets sent, that’s basically like update tickets.
157 00:12:33.780 ⇒ 00:12:35.940 Uttam Kumaran: I actually think it’s it’s
158 00:12:36.250 ⇒ 00:12:40.649 Uttam Kumaran: easiest if people just say, like, hey? This ticket needs to be broken up or like
159 00:12:40.810 ⇒ 00:12:44.699 Uttam Kumaran: something, cause I don’t want them to be like sitting in github doing stuff.
160 00:12:45.315 ⇒ 00:12:48.670 Uttam Kumaran: I want them to be spending the few hours just
161 00:12:49.020 ⇒ 00:12:50.220 Uttam Kumaran: doing work.
162 00:12:50.410 ⇒ 00:12:52.687 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m trying to think of like, what’s the
163 00:12:52.950 ⇒ 00:12:54.540 Uttam Kumaran: best alternative.
164 00:12:55.390 ⇒ 00:12:57.519 Nicolas Sucari: Probably what we can do is like
165 00:12:57.580 ⇒ 00:13:25.299 Nicolas Sucari: if we because this was the 1st week doing the planning and then meeting with everyone on Monday. Probably we. I can do this work this like sending each of the tasks, and to to everyone on on Wednesday, for example, and then like to understand what is the progress for the week and not wait until Friday. Right? If we meet with everyone on Monday, we agree on what we are gonna work on for that week, and then on Wednesday we like catch up through slack. With these messages. I can.
166 00:13:25.510 ⇒ 00:13:33.509 Nicolas Sucari: I can send those messages and discuss with anyone. Then we will be, we will known like more exactly what it’s gonna be accomplished on Friday.
167 00:13:35.220 ⇒ 00:13:44.180 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And I, I think batching this is going to be the best way to do this. So I think either we have, like both like Wednesday, Am. And like Friday, am, which is just like
168 00:13:44.200 ⇒ 00:13:45.590 Uttam Kumaran: ticket updates. But
169 00:13:45.680 ⇒ 00:13:48.780 Uttam Kumaran: ticket updates, includes multiple things like status.
170 00:13:49.610 ⇒ 00:13:52.789 Uttam Kumaran: Does a ticket need more info.
171 00:13:52.950 ⇒ 00:13:53.450 Uttam Kumaran: Doug.
172 00:13:53.450 ⇒ 00:13:55.649 Nicolas Sucari: The most important thing. Yeah.
173 00:13:55.650 ⇒ 00:13:56.250 Uttam Kumaran: And up.
174 00:13:57.170 ⇒ 00:14:22.910 Nicolas Sucari: The most important thing is status for me, I think. Because if we are doing the planning, and on Monday we are like talking with each of we are having the planning session with the analyst, the Ae engineers, and the that engineer. I mean, we are agreeing on everything. We are reviewing the board in that meetings, and then it’s just like, change the status. And if there is something that we need to change in the ticket we can be. We can do that to like quickly.
175 00:14:22.980 ⇒ 00:14:29.770 Nicolas Sucari: I think, but then is kind of just understanding the status of stuff and see what we can
176 00:14:30.150 ⇒ 00:14:32.999 Nicolas Sucari: get for Friday, so that we can close a week
177 00:14:33.460 ⇒ 00:14:34.960 Nicolas Sucari: delivering more stuff.
178 00:14:38.940 ⇒ 00:14:41.839 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so there’s like, okay, so let’s plan like
179 00:14:42.020 ⇒ 00:14:47.320 Uttam Kumaran: the thing is, I think we can do all that. Async. And I also think there should be a way for you
180 00:14:48.340 ⇒ 00:14:51.639 Uttam Kumaran: like, are you copy pasting these these links in here? Basically.
181 00:14:52.380 ⇒ 00:14:59.630 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, yeah, but don’t worry. It’s kind of what I do to understand. What are it has and what are the statuses? I obviously, I I think I can.
182 00:15:00.462 ⇒ 00:15:03.137 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know if with gate have a notion if I can.
183 00:15:03.360 ⇒ 00:15:09.819 Uttam Kumaran: Do it. Do yeah. Do it for like maybe do it this next week manually, and then we’ll see if the following week
184 00:15:10.340 ⇒ 00:15:14.750 Uttam Kumaran: it’s gonna be. It’ll be pretty easy for us to get the issues and like help. You kind of structure this.
185 00:15:15.000 ⇒ 00:15:15.720 Uttam Kumaran: But I want to.
186 00:15:15.720 ⇒ 00:15:16.569 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, yeah, that’s.
187 00:15:16.570 ⇒ 00:15:17.640 Uttam Kumaran: Right before
188 00:15:18.180 ⇒ 00:15:19.279 Uttam Kumaran: it’s basically automating it.
189 00:15:19.280 ⇒ 00:15:20.000 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
190 00:15:20.320 ⇒ 00:15:42.330 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, i i i sometimes I know that automation is great. And it’s like speeds up a lot of things. But sometimes I want to understand 1st what is like the output that we need to get from the automation. So that then we understand what is the process that we need to take to get that same output and that, and that we know that that output works for something right?
191 00:15:43.560 ⇒ 00:15:52.350 Nicolas Sucari: but yeah, I will keep doing this. I think this is good, and it lets me like dive deeper into each of the different tasks, understand a little bit more of
192 00:15:52.410 ⇒ 00:15:57.920 Nicolas Sucari: what everyone is doing. I think I’m getting more like clear understanding of
193 00:15:58.030 ⇒ 00:16:17.900 Nicolas Sucari: an analysis stuff, and probably some of what Brian and Brian is doing about Patrick. Yeah, there are some stuff that is kind of more technical. But I think I’m also like trying to understand a little bit more. But yeah, I will keep doing this. I think if we meet on Mondays with everyone, and then on 1 6 Am. We just
194 00:16:17.900 ⇒ 00:16:29.830 Nicolas Sucari: spend a little bit of time with each one, each of them, or I can do it, I think, with them from slack. We can have everything ready, I think, for Friday to yeah. Send updates understand what we accomplished and what is left to do.
195 00:16:30.710 ⇒ 00:16:32.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think the
196 00:16:32.320 ⇒ 00:16:36.139 Uttam Kumaran: like Patrick and Jacob are. Gonna be good with like
197 00:16:36.410 ⇒ 00:16:39.300 Uttam Kumaran: wanting to have the structure in terms of tickets.
198 00:16:39.480 ⇒ 00:16:48.509 Uttam Kumaran: Cause Patrick is really like a fan of like kind of having to process new organization save and Jacob, I think it’s just easy. He’s gonna be easy for it. Brian and Ryan
199 00:16:49.683 ⇒ 00:16:51.170 Uttam Kumaran: are, and
200 00:16:51.840 ⇒ 00:16:56.690 Uttam Kumaran: Nick is pretty good, but they’re gonna they’re all gonna have challenges just because of one.
201 00:16:57.030 ⇒ 00:17:04.600 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s like Brian has a tendency just to jump into things and isn’t really like, Hey, I’m working on this. Is this the right thing to work on.
202 00:17:04.690 ⇒ 00:17:13.389 Uttam Kumaran: Brian? I think it sometimes, like in and out, although he’s getting a lot. He got a lot done this week and basically did a lot of the stuff. It’s just not updated. And then Nick.
203 00:17:13.390 ⇒ 00:17:14.110 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, it’s actually.
204 00:17:14.119 ⇒ 00:17:15.229 Uttam Kumaran: So some like
205 00:17:15.299 ⇒ 00:17:22.579 Uttam Kumaran: waiting on. We’re just dealing with Stella. So the thing is like the de work probably is like one or 2 meetings a week. But
206 00:17:22.689 ⇒ 00:17:26.099 Uttam Kumaran: basically, I’m just gonna let Patrick continue to
207 00:17:26.129 ⇒ 00:17:29.109 Uttam Kumaran: run. I think if we get tighter on like
208 00:17:29.149 ⇒ 00:17:37.779 Uttam Kumaran: Monday, we plan something. Friday, we plan something. And then on Wednesday, he can basically say, Hey, after, like a few days of learning like, we need to adjust these things.
209 00:17:37.969 ⇒ 00:17:40.729 Uttam Kumaran: That’s gonna be fine. I think we’re still
210 00:17:41.119 ⇒ 00:17:44.849 Uttam Kumaran: the thing that we’re gonna continue to go back and forth. Them is just due dates
211 00:17:45.079 ⇒ 00:17:48.729 Uttam Kumaran: like, I don’t want things to be going on for more than 2 weeks.
212 00:17:49.343 ⇒ 00:17:53.819 Uttam Kumaran: Or like, I want to see tickets close, which means that things have to be broken up.
213 00:17:53.849 ⇒ 00:17:58.739 Uttam Kumaran: But sometimes we may not know the and the ae, I mean analysis work. It’s almost like
214 00:17:59.069 ⇒ 00:18:05.909 Uttam Kumaran: every day there’s going to be stuff, especially as we let as the models get better and real is up to date.
215 00:18:06.099 ⇒ 00:18:08.989 Uttam Kumaran: Jacob is gonna be running on things. The problem is.
216 00:18:11.779 ⇒ 00:18:16.639 Uttam Kumaran: this is gonna be the problem. Is, he needs to like, batch his questions meaning like.
217 00:18:16.669 ⇒ 00:18:19.399 Uttam Kumaran: if you just ask a question every 30 min.
218 00:18:19.819 ⇒ 00:18:22.409 Uttam Kumaran: nobody’s gonna be able to get their work done.
219 00:18:22.689 ⇒ 00:18:24.879 Uttam Kumaran: So the thing that we need
220 00:18:24.979 ⇒ 00:18:26.929 Uttam Kumaran: to figure out there is like.
221 00:18:27.259 ⇒ 00:18:31.069 Uttam Kumaran: for example, if he if he’s like, Okay, hey guys, I’m working on shipping.
222 00:18:31.169 ⇒ 00:18:35.659 Uttam Kumaran: I think what we should have and do is basically like, put a thread in with all the questions
223 00:18:35.669 ⇒ 00:18:37.579 Uttam Kumaran: like, if we take an example of like.
224 00:18:37.580 ⇒ 00:18:38.010 Nicolas Sucari: No, no.
225 00:18:38.010 ⇒ 00:18:39.330 Uttam Kumaran: Analyst, now.
226 00:18:39.330 ⇒ 00:18:39.949 Nicolas Sucari: But up.
227 00:18:39.950 ⇒ 00:18:41.140 Uttam Kumaran: Like you basically.
228 00:18:41.140 ⇒ 00:18:42.649 Nicolas Sucari: I know, I know. Go ahead.
229 00:18:42.730 ⇒ 00:18:59.905 Nicolas Sucari: but but I don’t think we need to do that in a slack thread like we need to use like the document. Notion on. No, no, the document, the notion that we are working out for each of the analysis. So if he’s like starting to have some questions about
230 00:19:00.300 ⇒ 00:19:04.140 Nicolas Sucari: the shipping stuff. And yeah, we need to start like
231 00:19:04.190 ⇒ 00:19:31.280 Nicolas Sucari: gathering all of the information there, writing the questions theres and then decide when to send to the Ae. Probably we can say once a day, twice a day to the team, so they can help us. But obviously having those questions. Theirs will also keep building that document. Then we will need to for everything right? And I think, like badging those yeah, those messages or questions, and having all of the information like his place to work and to
232 00:19:31.390 ⇒ 00:19:34.619 Nicolas Sucari: store all the the information should be the notion page.
233 00:19:36.080 ⇒ 00:19:37.940 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I agree. Like, I,
234 00:19:38.090 ⇒ 00:19:40.978 Uttam Kumaran: I think this stuff, for example, on shipping.
235 00:19:43.310 ⇒ 00:19:50.360 Uttam Kumaran: I think there was some stuff on Thursday, like 5 pm, there’s some stuff this morning. I think there’s also some stuff
236 00:19:50.370 ⇒ 00:19:52.570 Uttam Kumaran: like Wednesday or something. So.
237 00:19:53.010 ⇒ 00:19:53.450 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. Totally.
238 00:19:53.450 ⇒ 00:19:54.490 Uttam Kumaran: Right at that. Like
239 00:19:54.580 ⇒ 00:19:56.110 Uttam Kumaran: the thing is, it’s gonna.
240 00:19:56.110 ⇒ 00:19:57.019 Nicolas Sucari: It’s gonna get lost.
241 00:19:57.020 ⇒ 00:19:58.430 Uttam Kumaran: Cut. The yeah.
242 00:19:58.480 ⇒ 00:20:04.190 Uttam Kumaran: it’s gonna get, it’s gonna get lost. And these answers are important, like, these are questions that are gonna be asked. And again.
243 00:20:04.800 ⇒ 00:20:07.999 Uttam Kumaran: So you’re right. Maybe one thing we can do on
244 00:20:08.425 ⇒ 00:20:10.300 Uttam Kumaran: Monday is basically say, Hey.
245 00:20:10.310 ⇒ 00:20:15.910 Uttam Kumaran: centralize all the questions I want to be able to tell the Ae. Team that they have an sla
246 00:20:16.380 ⇒ 00:20:20.690 Uttam Kumaran: right like I, Brian is not gonna be able to be there every
247 00:20:20.860 ⇒ 00:20:22.650 Uttam Kumaran: 90 min to look at stuff
248 00:20:22.810 ⇒ 00:20:23.680 Uttam Kumaran: and
249 00:20:23.820 ⇒ 00:20:28.910 Uttam Kumaran: like, I wanna say, I wanna just basically tell Jacob like, Hey, you’re this is your home for the analysis.
250 00:20:29.740 ⇒ 00:20:39.960 Uttam Kumaran: like people are gonna reference this and answer and answer questions there, but they are. Gonna they may slack to answer the questions or to have a discussion, but everything needs to end up in the notion, Doc.
251 00:20:40.783 ⇒ 00:20:46.290 Uttam Kumaran: otherwise slack the github between email and that it’s gonna be really difficult.
252 00:20:46.750 ⇒ 00:20:57.310 Nicolas Sucari: No, no, I I am. I I think, like obviously they using slack for the communication, and to try to answer the questions. It’s perfectly fine, and that’s probably what.
253 00:20:57.556 ⇒ 00:21:03.719 Uttam Kumaran: The problem with slack is that it’s like this, it’s just no, but it’s just ping right? It’s like, the problem is like, if you
254 00:21:03.970 ⇒ 00:21:08.759 Uttam Kumaran: if we, if we, if we agree with them on the Sla, I don’t want them to cause
255 00:21:09.070 ⇒ 00:21:11.930 Uttam Kumaran: for them. They need the downtime to go
256 00:21:12.450 ⇒ 00:21:21.200 Uttam Kumaran: crank out these like data model stuff if they’re sitting and answering like 1 1 off one off questions, not gonna work. I’d rather have a
257 00:21:21.240 ⇒ 00:21:22.740 Uttam Kumaran: a meeting about it.
258 00:21:22.790 ⇒ 00:21:25.809 Uttam Kumaran: and 30 min we get the thing done right? So.
259 00:21:26.520 ⇒ 00:21:27.110 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
260 00:21:27.720 ⇒ 00:21:40.509 Nicolas Sucari: Oh, yeah, perfect. And what I’m saying is that jacob is sending, like all of all of those messages with information to the Channel, but probably that information, instead of sending, like each part for the Channel, he can, like
261 00:21:40.760 ⇒ 00:21:55.909 Nicolas Sucari: summary, summarize all of that messages into something that he want to ask to the ae, or to share, like in some numbers, that he’s like gathering or stuff. But everyone, everything needs to live in notion, and so that everyone that wants to understand, hey.
262 00:21:56.010 ⇒ 00:21:59.115 Nicolas Sucari: I I’m not gonna scroll about everything about.
263 00:21:59.460 ⇒ 00:21:59.859 Uttam Kumaran: Whereas? Yeah.
264 00:21:59.860 ⇒ 00:22:05.679 Nicolas Sucari: In the slack channel. Yeah, I I need to go to the notion and see, like all of the information that he’s been working on.
265 00:22:06.820 ⇒ 00:22:13.639 Nicolas Sucari: because, if not, you are spending time looking for the questions and the ae are just answering questions every time. There is something
266 00:22:13.700 ⇒ 00:22:15.270 Nicolas Sucari: I mean, we need to like.
267 00:22:15.380 ⇒ 00:22:35.040 Nicolas Sucari: split the things into Jacob, to work everything on the notion, have everything of the numbers, information, questions that he has there, and every time in a while sending to the slack channel for asking for a meeting to solve issues or sending all of the questions there, so that Brian Brian, Patrick, you or anyone can like help answering on a thread.
268 00:22:37.420 ⇒ 00:22:43.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. The other thing is, there will be questions about definition. And then the problem, the one thing I want to get around is like.
269 00:22:43.870 ⇒ 00:22:50.939 Uttam Kumaran: There were several things this past week where, like, I feel like, I was just like saying the same thing over and over again, and as soon as we hopped on a call we figured out.
270 00:22:51.250 ⇒ 00:22:56.330 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’ll take some nuance to like, understand when that is happening, basically.
271 00:22:56.770 ⇒ 00:23:01.230 Uttam Kumaran: But the other thing I wanna basically tell Brian and these guys is like.
272 00:23:01.320 ⇒ 00:23:02.840 Uttam Kumaran: if you find yourself
273 00:23:03.140 ⇒ 00:23:12.570 Uttam Kumaran: that’s having issues conveying something, do a 30 min meeting. But I wanna make sure that we give them the space to say like, this isn’t every day you have a meeting.
274 00:23:12.640 ⇒ 00:23:16.630 Uttam Kumaran: This is like the questions are listed. If you think it’s going to be too hard
275 00:23:17.220 ⇒ 00:23:20.429 Uttam Kumaran: to kind of go back and forth, Async and book a call
276 00:23:21.240 ⇒ 00:23:22.210 Uttam Kumaran: bath.
277 00:23:22.210 ⇒ 00:23:22.890 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, exactly.
278 00:23:22.890 ⇒ 00:23:27.629 Uttam Kumaran: You’re you’re right, is like, I want that communication happen in notion. So they’re not getting these pings.
279 00:23:27.990 ⇒ 00:23:32.479 Uttam Kumaran: And basically, at least there’s like 24 to 48 h for them to get to their stuff.
280 00:23:34.450 ⇒ 00:23:35.340 Uttam Kumaran: you know.
281 00:23:36.360 ⇒ 00:23:37.010 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
282 00:23:37.800 ⇒ 00:23:39.828 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, I think that’s fine.
283 00:23:41.460 ⇒ 00:23:43.030 Nicolas Sucari: But yeah, I think like.
284 00:23:43.220 ⇒ 00:23:48.449 Nicolas Sucari: we are making a lot of progress. And as you said, like, Brian probably is working on a lot of stuff.
285 00:23:48.860 ⇒ 00:23:50.959 Nicolas Sucari: And Jacob will have a look.
286 00:23:50.960 ⇒ 00:23:53.430 Uttam Kumaran: Brian Brian will be similar to me
287 00:23:53.550 ⇒ 00:23:56.359 Uttam Kumaran: in that he will work on like 4 or 5 things at a time
288 00:23:56.600 ⇒ 00:24:03.369 Uttam Kumaran: like we. He’s basically aware of this, like very similar background, we worked on all the same stuff. So but the prop, the thing is, he’s very quick.
289 00:24:03.650 ⇒ 00:24:06.549 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just you need to know exactly like what the outcome is.
290 00:24:06.710 ⇒ 00:24:13.540 Uttam Kumaran: So I wanna make sure that on Wednesdays and Fridays we give him we take care of like, hey? Let us know where these are at.
291 00:24:14.222 ⇒ 00:24:19.959 Uttam Kumaran: Because he’ll work. He’ll just get he’ll get the stuff done. The other thing is helping him with priority
292 00:24:19.970 ⇒ 00:24:22.269 Uttam Kumaran: like this is low priority. This is high priority.
293 00:24:23.008 ⇒ 00:24:25.549 Uttam Kumaran: I still don’t know whether
294 00:24:26.320 ⇒ 00:24:30.730 Uttam Kumaran: he was able to kind of like coordinate with Brian, and, like kind of
295 00:24:31.040 ⇒ 00:24:35.970 Uttam Kumaran: Ryan was able to coordinate Brian, and kind of figure out what work to push off versus not.
296 00:24:36.740 ⇒ 00:24:37.679 Nicolas Sucari: I’m not sure.
297 00:24:38.330 ⇒ 00:24:40.438 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m not sure, either. I
298 00:24:41.240 ⇒ 00:24:42.279 Uttam Kumaran: I still think
299 00:24:42.400 ⇒ 00:24:45.699 Uttam Kumaran: Patrick and Ryan are working closer together.
300 00:24:47.032 ⇒ 00:24:50.250 Uttam Kumaran: I still think we’re we’re kind of still
301 00:24:50.490 ⇒ 00:24:54.029 Uttam Kumaran: like not doing great at all on the elementary side, like.
302 00:24:54.260 ⇒ 00:24:58.369 Uttam Kumaran: I really don’t. I think there’s still so many errors
303 00:24:58.790 ⇒ 00:25:04.419 Uttam Kumaran: every week. I’m like telling these guys like there’s a too many errors. They give me some changes. It doesn’t work.
304 00:25:04.460 ⇒ 00:25:08.440 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s the thing that next week I really am going to put into
305 00:25:08.790 ⇒ 00:25:12.230 Uttam Kumaran: Brian’s hands because Ryan is not clearing them up.
306 00:25:12.250 ⇒ 00:25:13.510 Uttam Kumaran: And again, it’s like
307 00:25:13.940 ⇒ 00:25:15.250 Uttam Kumaran: upgrading
308 00:25:15.430 ⇒ 00:25:18.100 Uttam Kumaran: him from the problem.
309 00:25:18.310 ⇒ 00:25:25.249 Uttam Kumaran: And then I just think they’re he’s going and making patches every day. And it’s not working. I’m not confident that it’s gonna
310 00:25:25.440 ⇒ 00:25:27.200 Uttam Kumaran: that’s the way we need to do this.
311 00:25:27.440 ⇒ 00:25:27.720 Uttam Kumaran: So
312 00:25:28.000 ⇒ 00:25:29.169 Nicolas Sucari: No, I know I was basically.
313 00:25:29.170 ⇒ 00:25:35.140 Uttam Kumaran: We have a thread with Brian to make some decisions on how we do testing what are the tests we have?
314 00:25:35.320 ⇒ 00:25:38.409 Uttam Kumaran: And then also like, who’s responsible for.
315 00:25:39.720 ⇒ 00:25:40.620 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. The.
316 00:25:40.620 ⇒ 00:25:41.560 Uttam Kumaran: Failures.
317 00:25:42.210 ⇒ 00:25:46.529 Nicolas Sucari: But but what like do you think like we need to?
318 00:25:46.660 ⇒ 00:25:48.369 Nicolas Sucari: I think it would be
319 00:25:48.480 ⇒ 00:25:53.693 Nicolas Sucari: good to have a meeting and agree on how we’re gonna manage all of the testing stuff.
320 00:25:54.000 ⇒ 00:25:54.510 Uttam Kumaran: Just a Monday.
321 00:25:54.510 ⇒ 00:25:54.850 Nicolas Sucari: And the.
322 00:25:54.850 ⇒ 00:25:56.199 Uttam Kumaran: I think we do this on Monday.
323 00:25:56.850 ⇒ 00:25:57.510 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, it’s good.
324 00:25:57.510 ⇒ 00:25:58.030 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, video.
325 00:25:58.030 ⇒ 00:25:58.359 Nicolas Sucari: Well, I mean.
326 00:25:58.360 ⇒ 00:26:00.199 Uttam Kumaran: And Scott, it’s yeah. Go ahead.
327 00:26:00.820 ⇒ 00:26:06.280 Nicolas Sucari: We are receiving a lot of like these alerts in the Channel, and
328 00:26:06.310 ⇒ 00:26:23.923 Nicolas Sucari: every day there are failures, and there is a lot of stuff, and when you receive so many of them, like none of them, is important, final, like, we are receiving a lot of failures. But we cannot give, like the actual importance, and do the actual work that is need to do when we receive some of them. So it’s kind of I don’t know.
329 00:26:24.190 ⇒ 00:26:30.349 Uttam Kumaran: So the the issue there is. Patrick doesn’t have the data model context and the business context
330 00:26:30.500 ⇒ 00:26:39.780 Uttam Kumaran: necessary to understand whether it’s an issue or not. He knows like how to set up elementary and how the tests work, but he’s not like Oh, shipping volume is down like, what could that mean
331 00:26:39.810 ⇒ 00:26:41.890 Uttam Kumaran: Ryan is. Ryan
332 00:26:42.100 ⇒ 00:26:44.000 Uttam Kumaran: unfortunately, has made.
333 00:26:44.180 ⇒ 00:26:49.749 Uttam Kumaran: And I gotta try to basically say, like, Hey, take a step back and think of a strategy. And he’s not doing it.
334 00:26:49.800 ⇒ 00:26:52.390 Uttam Kumaran: Basically like, Hey, you need to understand that
335 00:26:52.590 ⇒ 00:26:56.660 Uttam Kumaran: these issues are not a joke, like, if there’s an issue, I’m considering that there’s a failure.
336 00:26:56.660 ⇒ 00:26:57.130 Nicolas Sucari: Side, please.
337 00:26:57.130 ⇒ 00:26:58.989 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, we’ve had failures every day.
338 00:26:59.090 ⇒ 00:27:11.530 Uttam Kumaran: So there’s no Ca, there’s also no accountability. Because I I’m like, nobody’s assigned this. Nobody clears it up. I go in and I’m like what’s going on. There’s a thread. There’s like random patches. He’s like, I’m gonna take a look.
339 00:27:11.720 ⇒ 00:27:13.820 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t want to do this anymore. I basically want to.
340 00:27:13.870 ⇒ 00:27:22.160 Uttam Kumaran: I I kind of want to be like, Hey, you’re rolled off of this until we get this in a good spot, cause I don’t. I think he’s wasting
341 00:27:22.950 ⇒ 00:27:24.340 Uttam Kumaran: fitload of time.
342 00:27:24.340 ⇒ 00:27:24.990 Nicolas Sucari: Time.
343 00:27:24.990 ⇒ 00:27:26.410 Uttam Kumaran: Like basically trying to.
344 00:27:26.410 ⇒ 00:27:26.740 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
345 00:27:26.740 ⇒ 00:27:30.909 Uttam Kumaran: These small patches. He’s not explaining to me clearly, like what’s going on.
346 00:27:31.060 ⇒ 00:27:35.469 Uttam Kumaran: There’s no like progress for 3 weeks, so I want to take it off his plate.
347 00:27:35.630 ⇒ 00:27:40.779 Uttam Kumaran: give it to Brian, and then basically work with Brian to say, like, What’s our strategy here?
348 00:27:41.560 ⇒ 00:27:47.549 Uttam Kumaran: Because this needs to be sustainable across both parts. And then it’s gonna have to work for Stella and on Stella.
349 00:27:47.550 ⇒ 00:27:48.330 Nicolas Sucari: Second Avenue. Yeah.
350 00:27:48.330 ⇒ 00:27:50.019 Uttam Kumaran: So so it has to go to Nick.
351 00:27:50.230 ⇒ 00:28:03.120 Uttam Kumaran: And if it’s and like, if this, we’re gonna have these false flags all the time. Then Nick’s gonna get screwed, too. So on. So next week what we do on Monday is, let’s come. Let’s just like take Brian off of all the testing related stuff.
352 00:28:03.520 ⇒ 00:28:07.309 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m gonna have him move to just other Dbt stuff.
353 00:28:07.500 ⇒ 00:28:10.860 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s great that we have it in place. But there needs to be another.
354 00:28:11.760 ⇒ 00:28:12.140 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
355 00:28:12.140 ⇒ 00:28:14.859 Uttam Kumaran: Situation here, where we plan with Brian.
356 00:28:14.960 ⇒ 00:28:17.039 Uttam Kumaran: how we want to handle testing.
357 00:28:17.250 ⇒ 00:28:18.550 Uttam Kumaran: And then
358 00:28:18.930 ⇒ 00:28:25.129 Uttam Kumaran: we we on. We have a, we have a run book, basically, for like, if a test fails, how to go identify the failure, and then
359 00:28:25.400 ⇒ 00:28:29.879 Uttam Kumaran: it needs to go to the Ae team to fix. And then they need an Sla basically
360 00:28:30.090 ⇒ 00:28:44.180 Uttam Kumaran: right? And the Ae team right now, like Brian Brian, if I said, Go fix. This test is like I don’t even know how to test work and stuff like that. So so let’s plan on that on Monday, talking to them about basically taking Ryan off of all the testing related stuff. I don’t want them to add more tests.
361 00:28:44.330 ⇒ 00:28:45.979 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t want to talk about that
362 00:28:46.040 ⇒ 00:28:48.040 Uttam Kumaran: until like we basically
363 00:28:48.450 ⇒ 00:28:50.589 Uttam Kumaran: figure this out, you know. So.
364 00:28:51.860 ⇒ 00:28:58.189 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, perfect. Yeah, that’s okay. The only thing. So yeah, probably what we can do with Ryan is.
365 00:28:58.300 ⇒ 00:29:04.720 Nicolas Sucari: get him to work on what we need for pro versus consumer analysis like to finish up that. What do you think.
366 00:29:05.070 ⇒ 00:29:06.719 Uttam Kumaran: And updates the shipping. Yeah.
367 00:29:07.480 ⇒ 00:29:08.100 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
368 00:29:08.480 ⇒ 00:29:09.280 Nicolas Sucari: okay.
369 00:29:11.590 ⇒ 00:29:13.060 Nicolas Sucari: yeah. I think that’s fine.
370 00:29:13.170 ⇒ 00:29:14.170 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah,
371 00:29:15.220 ⇒ 00:29:18.670 Nicolas Sucari: if we can. If we can work on the
372 00:29:20.110 ⇒ 00:29:23.140 Nicolas Sucari: do you hear me? Or you’re freezing a little bit.
373 00:29:24.510 ⇒ 00:29:25.260 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
374 00:29:25.900 ⇒ 00:29:26.673 Nicolas Sucari: Okay. Sorry.
375 00:29:27.060 ⇒ 00:29:27.440 Uttam Kumaran: Probably.
376 00:29:27.440 ⇒ 00:29:28.240 Nicolas Sucari: Can.
377 00:29:28.550 ⇒ 00:29:34.650 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, don’t worry if we can. If we can finish up the modeling that we need to do for pro
378 00:29:35.269 ⇒ 00:29:45.389 Nicolas Sucari: pro clients in pull parts. Then we can start working for the evidence stuff so that we can like finish up and close like that analysis and deliver
379 00:29:45.530 ⇒ 00:29:48.530 Nicolas Sucari: to Ben and Dan. That will be probably really nice to do.
380 00:29:50.260 ⇒ 00:29:55.059 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I totally agree. I think. We have a meeting with Kim on Monday for stuff.
381 00:29:55.743 ⇒ 00:29:57.276 Uttam Kumaran: I think there is.
382 00:29:58.520 ⇒ 00:30:00.694 Uttam Kumaran: I yeah, I also think,
383 00:30:02.070 ⇒ 00:30:03.550 Uttam Kumaran: for the
384 00:30:03.710 ⇒ 00:30:10.879 Uttam Kumaran: pro, yeah. The other thing on evidence is, I want to know what work is record like, there’s clearly some work on Patrick’s side to make sure that it’s all working. But
385 00:30:10.970 ⇒ 00:30:16.509 Uttam Kumaran: there may be some work on the data modeling side to make sure that, like all the models are accessible and things like that.
386 00:30:16.930 ⇒ 00:30:23.450 Uttam Kumaran: So I don’t know. Maybe next week we should just have a conversation as a team about evidence structure.
387 00:30:23.960 ⇒ 00:30:25.390 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. Totally.
388 00:30:25.390 ⇒ 00:30:32.000 Uttam Kumaran: I want. I want, like someone new or or like you, or someone who’s new and who’s like in it. Now to basically walk through like.
389 00:30:32.130 ⇒ 00:30:43.310 Uttam Kumaran: here’s what’s good. Here’s what’s bad. And then we can just start to think about, because again, we have a pretty good structure for real. We have a pretty good structure for Dbt. Like this tool. I want us to have, like a good understanding of what we want to do.
390 00:30:44.630 ⇒ 00:30:48.057 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, yeah, totally for me. I I think it’s perfect.
391 00:30:48.520 ⇒ 00:31:09.799 Nicolas Sucari: I managed to run it locally now. And I think that actually is starting to work on evidence now with Jacob on the sales dashboard that we were discussing. So yeah, I think if we can like have a meeting, understand if the structure that we have for evidence is working. Now, if we need to do some changes and yeah, discuss it like
392 00:31:09.880 ⇒ 00:31:25.419 Nicolas Sucari: specifically, it will be will be good so that we can move forward and start creating like these deliverables for the client, because we’ve been talking about the pro versus consumer analysis for the past 2 or 3 weeks, but we cannot like actually deliver something, so it will be
393 00:31:25.440 ⇒ 00:31:43.830 Nicolas Sucari: good to like. Have something to say, hey? And then you can access here every every time you want, and you will see the information. Obviously, we have real. But that’s kind of our report. So yeah, once we we do that, it’s kind of actually for clients. It’s good to have like something new there, so that they can access.
394 00:31:44.430 ⇒ 00:31:44.960 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
395 00:31:44.960 ⇒ 00:31:45.520 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
396 00:31:46.980 ⇒ 00:31:48.879 Nicolas Sucari: And that will make like our
397 00:31:49.230 ⇒ 00:31:50.560 Nicolas Sucari: like. Our
398 00:31:50.610 ⇒ 00:31:53.869 Nicolas Sucari: cadence of delivering to improve
399 00:31:54.450 ⇒ 00:32:18.909 Nicolas Sucari: like then and done will be, will start to understand how we deliver stuff. And if we start showing that reports from evidence, it will be great. We can do the same then with the shipment stuff. If we create the sales dashboard and the profit dashboard, that will be great, and the then you will see like how the delivers are getting to the clients, and they will like understand the value of our team and how to
400 00:32:19.050 ⇒ 00:32:23.630 Nicolas Sucari: how we can like help them increase their revenue, profit anything.
401 00:32:24.640 ⇒ 00:32:25.590 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay?
402 00:32:26.490 ⇒ 00:32:32.421 Uttam Kumaran: And the same thing on the notion stuff. It’s like he’s Jacob said, some stuff on
403 00:32:33.440 ⇒ 00:32:37.719 Uttam Kumaran: shipping. That’s something. I think. Also, we can just basically put all into notion.
404 00:32:37.810 ⇒ 00:32:40.829 Uttam Kumaran: But basically, he’s like, yeah, I found these like exploratory things.
405 00:32:42.371 ⇒ 00:32:45.379 Uttam Kumaran: Moving all that into notion would be great.
406 00:32:48.390 ⇒ 00:32:53.959 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, do we wanna look at like, is there anything from this week that I guess we didn’t get
407 00:32:54.460 ⇒ 00:32:56.660 Uttam Kumaran: a lot of updates.
408 00:32:56.660 ⇒ 00:32:57.030 Nicolas Sucari: No.
409 00:32:57.030 ⇒ 00:32:59.406 Uttam Kumaran: Tickets yet. But is there anything we want to
410 00:33:00.630 ⇒ 00:33:01.980 Uttam Kumaran: like? Look at.
411 00:33:03.120 ⇒ 00:33:06.329 Nicolas Sucari: So I was. I was working with that couple of
412 00:33:06.520 ⇒ 00:33:07.320 Nicolas Sucari: yeah
413 00:33:07.530 ⇒ 00:33:08.480 Nicolas Sucari: before
414 00:33:09.760 ⇒ 00:33:19.529 Nicolas Sucari: for pool parts, like I’m I was trying to think of. If we want to update something today, what we can update. So we can say something about accomplishments of
415 00:33:19.650 ⇒ 00:33:29.700 Nicolas Sucari: pros versus consumers that we like agreed on logic. And we start working for that report and that we started working for the shipping warehouse.
416 00:33:30.341 ⇒ 00:33:33.759 Nicolas Sucari: And then we have everything about direct mail that we
417 00:33:34.328 ⇒ 00:33:41.849 Nicolas Sucari: already. Have the post pilot information, even though we are missing some campaigns, probably, and we can keep working on that.
418 00:33:42.560 ⇒ 00:33:44.730 Nicolas Sucari: And then I don’t know if we have anything else.
419 00:33:47.600 ⇒ 00:33:51.740 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so add dbt, test implement sales.
420 00:33:53.880 ⇒ 00:33:57.239 Uttam Kumaran: So there’s 4 intern things. Are these in progress?
421 00:33:59.230 ⇒ 00:34:04.219 Nicolas Sucari: The intern stuff. Yeah, I think we can move everything to pros. I can move them. Okay.
422 00:34:04.900 ⇒ 00:34:06.129 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, let’s do that.
423 00:34:13.699 ⇒ 00:34:15.390 Uttam Kumaran: And then I mean for.
424 00:34:15.969 ⇒ 00:34:18.809 Nicolas Sucari: Probably the that will begin in progress
425 00:34:18.819 ⇒ 00:34:20.799 Nicolas Sucari: a little bit longer than others.
426 00:34:20.800 ⇒ 00:34:21.260 Uttam Kumaran: That’s okay.
427 00:34:21.260 ⇒ 00:34:21.620 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
428 00:34:22.010 ⇒ 00:34:22.400 Uttam Kumaran: Fine.
429 00:34:24.310 ⇒ 00:34:25.539 Uttam Kumaran: Don’t see it.
430 00:35:16.850 ⇒ 00:35:19.792 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? So the tickets we need to create
431 00:35:33.740 ⇒ 00:35:38.669 Uttam Kumaran: I guess we need to create for pool part are, one is updating
432 00:35:38.890 ⇒ 00:35:42.310 Uttam Kumaran: logic for pro versus consumer.
433 00:35:42.900 ⇒ 00:35:44.710 Uttam Kumaran: Derive flag
434 00:35:45.250 ⇒ 00:35:47.899 Uttam Kumaran: and cleaning up grill.
435 00:35:48.200 ⇒ 00:35:50.645 Uttam Kumaran: Second thing is
436 00:35:53.490 ⇒ 00:35:54.230 Nicolas Sucari: This.
437 00:35:54.510 ⇒ 00:35:56.050 Uttam Kumaran: Probably backlog
438 00:35:56.650 ⇒ 00:35:58.150 Uttam Kumaran: of evidence.
439 00:35:58.250 ⇒ 00:36:00.400 Uttam Kumaran: Page for shipping.
440 00:36:00.770 ⇒ 00:36:04.780 Nicolas Sucari: Okay for shipping. Yeah. I.
441 00:36:06.240 ⇒ 00:36:06.810 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Go ahead.
442 00:36:06.810 ⇒ 00:36:13.630 Nicolas Sucari: Like. For, like for evidence, we have the create evidence page for pro versus consumer analysis that’s already there on backlog.
443 00:36:14.840 ⇒ 00:36:22.306 Nicolas Sucari: if you add that ticket off. Yeah, doing like the data modeling for that. That would be okay. And then,
444 00:36:23.580 ⇒ 00:36:38.329 Nicolas Sucari: I think that what we need to start doing. And probably if Ryan won’t be working on elementary stuff next week, he can start working on seeing how we can like. Get Kim’s weekly reports on real right. What do you think.
445 00:36:39.540 ⇒ 00:36:40.929 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, yes.
446 00:36:44.070 ⇒ 00:36:48.210 Nicolas Sucari: Because if if we I mean we show them real, then love this.
447 00:36:48.210 ⇒ 00:36:48.929 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, I agree.
448 00:36:48.930 ⇒ 00:36:49.530 Nicolas Sucari: And they’ve
449 00:36:49.980 ⇒ 00:36:54.350 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, we need to start pushing into having everything unreal. And once
450 00:36:54.480 ⇒ 00:37:00.146 Nicolas Sucari: we have keeps reports there, I think she will start using real, and they will see like.
451 00:37:00.480 ⇒ 00:37:06.449 Uttam Kumaran: I’m I’m I’m like, and I’m also okay with him, meeting with her. It’s just I prefer if you’re there, because
452 00:37:06.660 ⇒ 00:37:10.920 Uttam Kumaran: if the engineers meet with these guys directly. They’ll start coding on the call.
453 00:37:11.390 ⇒ 00:37:11.930 Uttam Kumaran: That’s all.
454 00:37:11.930 ⇒ 00:37:12.640 Nicolas Sucari: Hey!
455 00:37:12.640 ⇒ 00:37:14.470 Uttam Kumaran: Short circuit them from doing
456 00:37:14.510 ⇒ 00:37:16.679 Uttam Kumaran: from doing that cause. It’s it’s like the natural.
457 00:37:16.680 ⇒ 00:37:17.220 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
458 00:37:17.220 ⇒ 00:37:18.320 Uttam Kumaran: Inclination.
459 00:37:18.590 ⇒ 00:37:20.030 Uttam Kumaran: But I do think that
460 00:37:20.340 ⇒ 00:37:24.200 Uttam Kumaran: we do have a call with Brian. We do have a call with Kim on Monday.
461 00:37:24.430 ⇒ 00:37:25.650 Uttam Kumaran: So we can
462 00:37:25.670 ⇒ 00:37:27.290 Uttam Kumaran: basically establish
463 00:37:27.500 ⇒ 00:37:29.019 Uttam Kumaran: what else needs to happen. There.
464 00:37:30.330 ⇒ 00:37:33.880 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, totally. I mean, we need to ask Kim what
465 00:37:34.010 ⇒ 00:37:38.480 Nicolas Sucari: like, what is like? Something that she would use daily a daily basis.
466 00:37:38.480 ⇒ 00:37:39.789 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Trek. No, she has some.
467 00:37:39.790 ⇒ 00:37:40.400 Nicolas Sucari: Desktop right.
468 00:37:40.400 ⇒ 00:37:41.040 Uttam Kumaran: Share.
469 00:37:41.170 ⇒ 00:37:42.060 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
470 00:37:44.500 ⇒ 00:37:48.860 Nicolas Sucari: Because I I know that what we have on light dash, like works for her. But
471 00:37:49.200 ⇒ 00:37:51.219 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, I think we should like
472 00:37:51.410 ⇒ 00:37:58.099 Nicolas Sucari: understand again, if everything that is, there is something that is useful for her, and see how we can fit it into real.
473 00:38:01.560 ⇒ 00:38:05.159 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, what else is starting this process.
474 00:38:05.160 ⇒ 00:38:10.389 Nicolas Sucari: A A, and also, I think, like there is some part of it that you already
475 00:38:10.560 ⇒ 00:38:15.829 Nicolas Sucari: moved it to real like everything about the campaigns, direct mail and that stuff. It’s in real already, right.
476 00:38:16.310 ⇒ 00:38:20.719 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, basically, I think what we can do is have Brian move
477 00:38:21.770 ⇒ 00:38:24.680 Uttam Kumaran: several of the reporting models in Terrell.
478 00:38:25.310 ⇒ 00:38:26.030 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
479 00:38:26.356 ⇒ 00:38:28.970 Uttam Kumaran: And just making sure that things are clean.
480 00:38:30.162 ⇒ 00:38:32.460 Uttam Kumaran: We can ticket that out. Basically.
481 00:38:33.690 ⇒ 00:38:36.070 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, are you? Are you creating the tickets?
482 00:38:36.340 ⇒ 00:38:38.339 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just noting it down in notion.
483 00:38:39.145 ⇒ 00:38:39.490 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
484 00:38:39.490 ⇒ 00:38:42.629 Uttam Kumaran: In our, in our like planning, meeting notion, and then I’ll create them.
485 00:38:43.520 ⇒ 00:38:44.180 Nicolas Sucari: Perfect.
486 00:38:45.500 ⇒ 00:38:48.560 Uttam Kumaran: I I basically, I’m using Chat Gb to to just help me.
487 00:38:48.560 ⇒ 00:38:49.260 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
488 00:38:49.260 ⇒ 00:38:50.040 Uttam Kumaran: Actually.
489 00:38:50.990 ⇒ 00:38:51.750 Nicolas Sucari: Perfect.
490 00:38:55.260 ⇒ 00:38:58.175 Uttam Kumaran: I think the evolution of that, too, is
491 00:38:58.910 ⇒ 00:39:03.240 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna basically have a way for us to
492 00:39:05.280 ⇒ 00:39:07.300 Uttam Kumaran: chat directly with the issues
493 00:39:08.220 ⇒ 00:39:09.590 Uttam Kumaran: which will mean, like.
494 00:39:09.840 ⇒ 00:39:12.739 Uttam Kumaran: Go change this issue and update
495 00:39:12.870 ⇒ 00:39:15.809 Uttam Kumaran: the owner to this person, or add this
496 00:39:16.250 ⇒ 00:39:21.379 Uttam Kumaran: and like, I think I know how to. I. I did some stuff like that for Google Calendar.
497 00:39:22.360 ⇒ 00:39:25.040 Nicolas Sucari: That’s that’s awesome. Like like to.
498 00:39:25.250 ⇒ 00:39:25.460 Uttam Kumaran: Guy.
499 00:39:25.460 ⇒ 00:39:26.359 Nicolas Sucari: And, like an internal chat.
500 00:39:26.645 ⇒ 00:39:26.930 Uttam Kumaran: Bot.
501 00:39:27.710 ⇒ 00:39:28.430 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
502 00:39:28.710 ⇒ 00:39:31.550 Uttam Kumaran: Like chat with our chat with the project board. Basically.
503 00:39:32.950 ⇒ 00:39:38.120 Nicolas Sucari: That’s amazing. And and like trigger actions by chatting. That’s amazing.
504 00:39:38.460 ⇒ 00:39:43.589 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, modify, go, like, for example, modify issue. Xyz.
505 00:39:44.140 ⇒ 00:39:48.140 Uttam Kumaran: change the take this to this or update the description, include this
506 00:39:48.270 ⇒ 00:39:48.859 Uttam Kumaran: and
507 00:39:49.800 ⇒ 00:39:53.539 Uttam Kumaran: to basically do that. Now that we have like fixed fields.
508 00:39:55.420 ⇒ 00:40:01.129 Uttam Kumaran: it’ll be pretty easy for me to spin that up locally, and then I’ll make it make it just like an internal app that we can do.
509 00:40:01.480 ⇒ 00:40:08.779 Uttam Kumaran: The ideal thing is that like, you know, if we’re on a call, because again, some of these is like you have to go open up, Github, open up to find the right.
510 00:40:08.780 ⇒ 00:40:10.419 Nicolas Sucari: Exactly. Second update, though.
511 00:40:10.420 ⇒ 00:40:11.719 Uttam Kumaran: Click on the right field.
512 00:40:12.010 ⇒ 00:40:18.949 Uttam Kumaran: Just so painful for me. But and we needed to understand, like what categories of issues we have, typically, we have like
513 00:40:19.160 ⇒ 00:40:21.390 Uttam Kumaran: breaking things up into more tickets
514 00:40:21.630 ⇒ 00:40:27.779 Uttam Kumaran: or but now also we have a we have a have a custom Gpt that writes the ticket format.
515 00:40:28.130 ⇒ 00:40:30.830 Uttam Kumaran: It’ll also be helpful for us to basically
516 00:40:31.370 ⇒ 00:40:35.800 Uttam Kumaran: like, if we have a meeting where we’re discussing like, okay, we want to create this ticket. We want to create this ticket.
517 00:40:35.970 ⇒ 00:40:40.639 Uttam Kumaran: Ideally, we take the transcript, load it into this, and it goes and
518 00:40:41.080 ⇒ 00:40:41.930 Uttam Kumaran: creates those.
519 00:40:41.930 ⇒ 00:40:43.249 Nicolas Sucari: Events, or at least.
520 00:40:43.750 ⇒ 00:40:46.839 Uttam Kumaran: It creates them in in triage, and then we can go look at them.
521 00:40:47.070 ⇒ 00:40:49.360 Uttam Kumaran: make the small tweaks, and then publish
522 00:40:51.590 ⇒ 00:40:55.210 Uttam Kumaran: so that’s like the long tail, which should be really really nice.
523 00:40:55.960 ⇒ 00:40:59.379 Nicolas Sucari: That should be an amazing tool. We can sell it to everyone.
524 00:40:59.380 ⇒ 00:41:00.909 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, yeah.
525 00:41:03.735 ⇒ 00:41:06.889 Uttam Kumaran: So then what a week? So on the intern side?
526 00:41:07.701 ⇒ 00:41:10.648 Uttam Kumaran: What can we do next week?
527 00:41:11.300 ⇒ 00:41:12.642 Uttam Kumaran: so we have.
528 00:41:13.500 ⇒ 00:41:16.240 Uttam Kumaran: we have a thought working on. Yeah.
529 00:41:16.640 ⇒ 00:41:31.220 Nicolas Sucari: We need to set a weekly meeting with the interns so that they can show progress, start showing like, what progress have they made on each of their tasks, even though they’re just telling us or showing us some code or anything. Obviously, I need you there, if if they’re gonna.
530 00:41:31.220 ⇒ 00:41:32.300 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, mode.
531 00:41:32.608 ⇒ 00:41:46.822 Nicolas Sucari: Just so that we we are not giving them, giving them the task, and say, Hey, let me know when that’s finished. Just like to keep showing progress, understand how they are working, and if they need any help. I’ve been talking to each of them.
532 00:41:47.480 ⇒ 00:42:01.550 Nicolas Sucari: I yeah, I I shared the meeting with Actually and Patrick, I tried to. Well, Ryan and Priya, they met at my at my 4 Am. So I wasn’t able to join, but I know they are working, and I know that at Arv is also working with Patrick, so
533 00:42:01.550 ⇒ 00:42:23.520 Nicolas Sucari: I know there is progress, but probably it should be good to have, for example, on Wednesday a meeting with all the interns, or try to scale with all of them depending on time zones, or the ones that are available, and see like what are the progress and them to show us a little bit more kind of a demo on what they’ve been doing like for evidence, for elementary tests or anything else.
534 00:42:24.640 ⇒ 00:42:27.950 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So I think we should do Monday.
535 00:42:28.500 ⇒ 00:42:39.530 Uttam Kumaran: Wednesday, and then Fridays. Well, I’m just gonna call on them to share basically Wednesdays, like, I think Mondays for sure. I’ll join Wednesdays. We’ll see.
536 00:42:39.560 ⇒ 00:42:42.981 Uttam Kumaran: I think. Monday we should do in the morning, and maybe that’s like the
537 00:42:44.620 ⇒ 00:42:47.059 Uttam Kumaran: like. Maybe that’s the 1st thing we do.
538 00:42:47.810 ⇒ 00:42:48.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
539 00:42:48.780 ⇒ 00:42:52.450 Nicolas Sucari: I mean, I think we’re ready. You’re already starting really early with
540 00:42:53.050 ⇒ 00:42:53.780 Nicolas Sucari: everything.
541 00:42:53.780 ⇒ 00:42:56.989 Uttam Kumaran: I think. Just, I think just book.
542 00:42:57.270 ⇒ 00:43:00.110 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s just do 7 to 8. My time
543 00:43:00.270 ⇒ 00:43:06.970 Uttam Kumaran: on interns, and ideally, the Ae planning session be, we can make 45 min and start to understand, like, how much time we really need.
544 00:43:07.470 ⇒ 00:43:09.407 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And also let’s get, let’s
545 00:43:11.330 ⇒ 00:43:14.680 Uttam Kumaran: I think we can get rid of that, Stella. Stand up, too.
546 00:43:16.570 ⇒ 00:43:17.330 Nicolas Sucari: Okay?
547 00:43:18.831 ⇒ 00:43:22.370 Nicolas Sucari: If we are, yeah, if we are gonna meet with Nigeria.
548 00:43:22.370 ⇒ 00:43:24.320 Uttam Kumaran: We’re gonna meet with Nick in the planning session.
549 00:43:25.000 ⇒ 00:43:26.950 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, okay, okay, I can get rid of that
550 00:43:28.610 ⇒ 00:43:30.410 Nicolas Sucari: done. Okay? So
551 00:43:30.650 ⇒ 00:43:33.200 Nicolas Sucari: you want 7 to 8 with interns.
552 00:43:33.600 ⇒ 00:43:35.190 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I can schedule that
553 00:43:37.740 ⇒ 00:43:39.789 Nicolas Sucari: and say, I’m trying
554 00:43:40.940 ⇒ 00:43:42.650 Nicolas Sucari: frame $14
555 00:43:55.670 ⇒ 00:43:57.610 Nicolas Sucari: as soon.
556 00:44:24.690 ⇒ 00:44:25.470 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
557 00:44:27.620 ⇒ 00:44:30.580 Nicolas Sucari: I send it just for Monday. Okay, I’m gonna make it
558 00:44:30.810 ⇒ 00:44:33.279 Nicolas Sucari: every week. Is that okay? Or are you just.
559 00:44:33.280 ⇒ 00:44:33.870 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay.
560 00:44:33.870 ⇒ 00:44:35.650 Nicolas Sucari: Have it for Monday, and.
561 00:44:35.650 ⇒ 00:44:39.420 Uttam Kumaran: No, send. Send, send it for every week, and then we’ll we’ll change it like that’s fine.
562 00:44:39.420 ⇒ 00:44:39.990 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
563 00:44:54.480 ⇒ 00:44:55.910 Nicolas Sucari: perfect. Yep.
564 00:44:57.160 ⇒ 00:44:59.637 Nicolas Sucari: On Tuesday I will be flying.
565 00:45:00.050 ⇒ 00:45:00.560 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
566 00:45:00.560 ⇒ 00:45:04.003 Nicolas Sucari: So probably I will. I will be off, but I will be
567 00:45:04.740 ⇒ 00:45:08.749 Nicolas Sucari: catching up on the afternoon, probably at like 4 5 pm. I think.
568 00:45:09.080 ⇒ 00:45:10.110 Nicolas Sucari: Yep, yeah.
569 00:45:10.320 ⇒ 00:45:12.119 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, if you’re bored on the flight
570 00:45:12.210 ⇒ 00:45:18.213 Uttam Kumaran: by Wi-fi, and let me know I’ll pay you back, but otherwise take some time to read, or something.
571 00:45:18.530 ⇒ 00:45:19.080 Nicolas Sucari: Nice for me.
572 00:45:19.080 ⇒ 00:45:24.320 Uttam Kumaran: Just because usually I don’t. I don’t like or I don’t. I used to not buy wi-fi and stuff, but
573 00:45:24.440 ⇒ 00:45:25.700 Uttam Kumaran: since I have work
574 00:45:25.970 ⇒ 00:45:26.750 Uttam Kumaran: it’s been.
575 00:45:26.750 ⇒ 00:45:37.149 Nicolas Sucari: No, no, no, totally. The only thing is that i i i’m not really sure if these like airline, because he’s Argentinian airline, I don’t know if they offer Wi-fi yet.
576 00:45:39.090 ⇒ 00:45:41.959 Nicolas Sucari: I’m not pretty sure. But yeah, probably
577 00:45:42.590 ⇒ 00:45:45.400 Nicolas Sucari: if there is Wi-fi, I’m gonna definitely try to buy it.
578 00:45:45.400 ⇒ 00:45:47.350 Uttam Kumaran: If they do get it, because it’s
579 00:45:47.620 ⇒ 00:45:50.610 Uttam Kumaran: helps. The journey go by way now, but.
580 00:45:52.710 ⇒ 00:45:53.450 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
581 00:45:55.830 ⇒ 00:45:57.939 Nicolas Sucari: Are they using Starlink? I don’t know.
582 00:45:58.460 ⇒ 00:45:59.380 Nicolas Sucari: I think.
583 00:45:59.580 ⇒ 00:46:01.560 Uttam Kumaran: They’re start. Some people are starting to.
584 00:46:01.810 ⇒ 00:46:04.799 Uttam Kumaran: I mean for me. It’s just like sometimes it comes in and out. But
585 00:46:05.460 ⇒ 00:46:12.659 Uttam Kumaran: you know we it’s just. I feel like the time just goes by. If I’m can sit here and work like I just, it’s great cause. Then I can listen to some music work.
586 00:46:13.180 ⇒ 00:46:16.309 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m not. Yeah. I got bored on the flights, really. So.
587 00:46:18.250 ⇒ 00:46:18.809 Nicolas Sucari: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
588 00:46:19.107 ⇒ 00:46:22.679 Uttam Kumaran: 10 bucks or 12 bucks. Dude. It’s not like crazy, you know.
589 00:46:23.400 ⇒ 00:46:32.850 Nicolas Sucari: No, totally. But yeah, I think this airline is Atolini, as Argentina is from Argentina. Obviously, I don’t think wi-fi yet.
590 00:46:34.372 ⇒ 00:46:36.939 Nicolas Sucari: This country is crazy.
591 00:46:37.930 ⇒ 00:46:47.360 Uttam Kumaran: I’ve been meaning to ask you about like, what you think about millay and and like the government and stuff like that. I that’s what I’ve been briefing a lot of time reading about
592 00:46:47.750 ⇒ 00:46:48.570 Uttam Kumaran: past 6. So.
593 00:46:48.570 ⇒ 00:46:54.959 Nicolas Sucari: No worries. It has been crazy this yeah, last 6 months. 1, st 6 months of Malay.
594 00:46:56.620 ⇒ 00:47:10.100 Nicolas Sucari: I I actually, I think we’re gonna be better with Millay. But right now, like he can do a lot of stuff or a lot of changes because he doesn’t own, like the majority on Congress.
595 00:47:11.890 ⇒ 00:47:12.980 Nicolas Sucari: so like
596 00:47:13.909 ⇒ 00:47:19.660 Nicolas Sucari: every law or thing like he wants to do, it’s getting rejected.
597 00:47:19.680 ⇒ 00:47:21.670 Nicolas Sucari: So we need to wait like
598 00:47:22.020 ⇒ 00:47:26.660 Nicolas Sucari: one more year. I think that there, like, yeah, elections for the Senate and
599 00:47:27.350 ⇒ 00:47:38.450 Nicolas Sucari: and that stuff so that probably he could get the majority and start doing like a lot of more of changes. But yeah, I I voted him for you to know. I think like this country was
600 00:47:38.760 ⇒ 00:47:41.640 Nicolas Sucari: and it it was kind of full of
601 00:47:41.880 ⇒ 00:47:48.200 Nicolas Sucari: corruption on the Government, and the previous governments were awful.
602 00:47:48.850 ⇒ 00:47:49.330 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
603 00:47:49.330 ⇒ 00:47:55.869 Nicolas Sucari: So yeah, let’s let’s hope that’s open up to open us up to the world is gonna help.
604 00:47:56.040 ⇒ 00:47:57.870 Nicolas Sucari: I definitely think so.
605 00:47:58.280 ⇒ 00:48:01.160 Nicolas Sucari: But yeah, I don’t know. We need to wait.
606 00:48:01.260 ⇒ 00:48:03.160 Nicolas Sucari: I’m happy with Millay, even though.
607 00:48:04.640 ⇒ 00:48:08.040 Uttam Kumaran: No, I think I mean again, I think like politics.
608 00:48:08.190 ⇒ 00:48:12.860 Uttam Kumaran: for some reason, just like salary, just like there’s some things in our life that
609 00:48:13.130 ⇒ 00:48:18.889 Uttam Kumaran: people are always nervous to talk about like religion. And I I was like, really, never that way. And as I, as I’ve gotten.
610 00:48:19.330 ⇒ 00:48:19.770 Nicolas Sucari: Amber.
611 00:48:19.770 ⇒ 00:48:22.469 Uttam Kumaran: I I care less and less because
612 00:48:22.890 ⇒ 00:48:23.750 Uttam Kumaran: I think.
613 00:48:23.750 ⇒ 00:48:24.270 Nicolas Sucari: No, no.
614 00:48:24.270 ⇒ 00:48:28.580 Uttam Kumaran: Not talking about these things is actually worse than like having discussion. And
615 00:48:28.620 ⇒ 00:48:31.630 Uttam Kumaran: it’s not. Most people in life aren’t like
616 00:48:31.870 ⇒ 00:48:35.810 Uttam Kumaran: polarizing or like yell or like they just wanna discuss.
617 00:48:36.010 ⇒ 00:48:43.579 Uttam Kumaran: And so I actually am very interested, you know, and and a lot of times, people in the Us. You know, the problem with people in the Us. Is that they don’t. A lot of people don’t travel.
618 00:48:43.630 ⇒ 00:48:47.239 Uttam Kumaran: And so if you go to India, you go to other countries. You realize that
619 00:48:47.260 ⇒ 00:48:50.420 Uttam Kumaran: corruption and these things are systematic in that
620 00:48:50.430 ⇒ 00:48:57.109 Uttam Kumaran: a lot of the time, because once people get in the government and politics, they do this. But in here, in the Us. People don’t think that’s like happening
621 00:48:57.300 ⇒ 00:48:57.990 Uttam Kumaran: right? But
622 00:48:58.510 ⇒ 00:49:02.130 Uttam Kumaran: same time, although it may be harder, it’s happening on the biggest scale.
623 00:49:02.440 ⇒ 00:49:07.058 Uttam Kumaran: And so people here, you know, you have to be skeptical and things like that. And
624 00:49:07.700 ⇒ 00:49:08.850 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, I think.
625 00:49:09.997 ⇒ 00:49:16.410 Uttam Kumaran: You know, we have a lot of freedoms here. But at the same time, in Argentina I’m glad that he seems passionate about the country, and he’s
626 00:49:16.440 ⇒ 00:49:19.689 Uttam Kumaran: seems like he has like a financial focus. That’s really great.
627 00:49:19.980 ⇒ 00:49:26.120 Uttam Kumaran: And you know, of course I don’t live there. I don’t know what the people in the coffee shops and stuff we’re talking about, but
628 00:49:26.670 ⇒ 00:49:32.539 Uttam Kumaran: I think like what I’ve read about him, and he seems like wise, and at least is trying something.
629 00:49:32.730 ⇒ 00:49:38.160 Uttam Kumaran: and it starts a lot with getting rid of the corruption. And you know that stuff is, you’re never gonna completely eliminate it, but
630 00:49:38.280 ⇒ 00:49:43.570 Uttam Kumaran: seems like people are energized and people are excited. And you know for the 1st time. I think they’re like
631 00:49:43.670 ⇒ 00:49:47.650 Uttam Kumaran: they were able to cut a lot of different costs down and things like that. And
632 00:49:48.000 ⇒ 00:49:53.389 Uttam Kumaran: you know, there’s something to say about trying to run it a little bit like a business where you understand what everybody’s doing, and
633 00:49:53.730 ⇒ 00:49:56.140 Uttam Kumaran: try to have some goals and things like that. So.
634 00:49:57.080 ⇒ 00:49:57.780 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
635 00:49:57.940 ⇒ 00:50:08.420 Nicolas Sucari: because, yeah, he’s an economist, and he understands like pretty well the financial side of everything. Obviously, he got. He like
636 00:50:08.470 ⇒ 00:50:26.920 Nicolas Sucari: the the way of of him to address to people. And that stuff is kind of different from our government. That’s why like previous governments were so successful because they can move like a mass of people’s huge mass of people. However, they want. But they were like, super corruptor. Yeah, like.
637 00:50:27.410 ⇒ 00:50:34.470 Nicolas Sucari: Was incredible. Like they were stealing money from every single piece of single, every single business, every single.
638 00:50:34.470 ⇒ 00:50:34.810 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
639 00:50:35.160 ⇒ 00:50:43.220 Nicolas Sucari: Thing that was around the government. And what is happening now is that Millay is like cutting off all of those kind of
640 00:50:43.820 ⇒ 00:50:46.940 Nicolas Sucari: little businesses. We call it here.
641 00:50:48.116 ⇒ 00:50:52.283 Nicolas Sucari: and and yeah, and that’s why some people is like
642 00:50:52.810 ⇒ 00:51:00.909 Nicolas Sucari: not. Yeah, that doesn’t support him at all. And because the country is like getting a little bit expensive now.
643 00:51:01.720 ⇒ 00:51:05.374 Nicolas Sucari: But that’s something good for now we need to like
644 00:51:05.850 ⇒ 00:51:11.479 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, bare through it, and hopefully it will get better in terms of
645 00:51:11.913 ⇒ 00:51:20.409 Nicolas Sucari: comparing us to any other country in the world, because, as until until May there was a lot of inflation here in Argentina.
646 00:51:20.410 ⇒ 00:51:21.140 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
647 00:51:21.140 ⇒ 00:51:25.370 Nicolas Sucari: Prices were like really low, because the government was paying for everything so.
648 00:51:26.200 ⇒ 00:51:29.930 Nicolas Sucari: For the for the businesses who need who they were like.
649 00:51:30.350 ⇒ 00:51:50.340 Nicolas Sucari: they need to pay taxes a lot. So there was no money. If you wanted to like, invest on something, create a startup and try to. I don’t know. Start a restaurant or something you need to pay like double the price on everything because of the taxes. And so you decided not to do it. There was no encouragement for people to invest here to, because of the taxes.
650 00:51:50.340 ⇒ 00:51:50.840 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
651 00:51:52.110 ⇒ 00:52:11.230 Nicolas Sucari: And and now that we millay is going to reduce all that, all those taxes but like other prices, are going up. For example, electricity yeah, water services and everything like that is like going up because we are taking. He’s taking out, like all of the government spending on that for the people.
652 00:52:11.790 ⇒ 00:52:20.590 Nicolas Sucari: But yeah, it’s kind of a transition time. I think we need to bear where we did a little bit more. And let’s hope, like, 2 years the country will be better
653 00:52:21.025 ⇒ 00:52:36.749 Nicolas Sucari: and yeah, with less corruption, because the corruption is crazy. The violence is crazy. So yeah, let’s hope we’d get better. I’m I. I live well here. And in Argentina people lives really? Well. But yeah, there is a lot of poverty.
654 00:52:37.030 ⇒ 00:52:40.090 Nicolas Sucari: And yeah, we need the country to get better.
655 00:52:41.360 ⇒ 00:52:42.286 Uttam Kumaran: I think.
656 00:52:44.370 ⇒ 00:52:50.090 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I agree. I think the one thing the Us has is that here it’s they encourage you to start business, and
657 00:52:50.280 ⇒ 00:52:58.039 Uttam Kumaran: you know it’s possible. You know, things aren’t like so crazy where, even with a few $100, you can go start a business and try to sell something and.
658 00:52:58.040 ⇒ 00:52:58.490 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
659 00:52:58.490 ⇒ 00:52:59.769 Uttam Kumaran: You know us is like
660 00:52:59.920 ⇒ 00:53:03.219 Uttam Kumaran: 50% comes from small businesses, like, you know. So
661 00:53:03.500 ⇒ 00:53:07.410 Uttam Kumaran: so through some of the businesses, here are small businesses. You know. We’re a small business.
662 00:53:07.550 ⇒ 00:53:08.440 Uttam Kumaran: Dal.
663 00:53:08.750 ⇒ 00:53:15.820 Uttam Kumaran: At the same time it’s you want to make that possible for folks in other countries, and you know he’s making it good for people to attract
664 00:53:15.920 ⇒ 00:53:17.420 Uttam Kumaran: investment there.
665 00:53:17.540 ⇒ 00:53:27.820 Uttam Kumaran: And for me. It’s like hearing that like, hey? They want foreign investment makes it be like cool. We should hire more people there, or we should go see if there’s clients down there that want to work and like stuff like that makes it more interesting to me.
666 00:53:27.880 ⇒ 00:53:32.689 Uttam Kumaran: because I feel like the people he will put in. Government would would be excited for that.
667 00:53:32.950 ⇒ 00:53:43.009 Uttam Kumaran: you know, and that that allows for external opportunity to come. And especially in technology, right? Like technology, is the one of the biggest exports of the Us. Because we go and hire everywhere. And
668 00:53:43.330 ⇒ 00:53:49.990 Uttam Kumaran: you know ability to bring the technology to people there and make it easy to work with people here, I think, is is really
669 00:53:50.090 ⇒ 00:54:05.190 Uttam Kumaran: huge. And I think, Argentina, you know, I think, for anything. At least it’s good. Press the people here in the Us. Finally, or at least in people who follow like business and things like that they know about him. They know about the country. There’s a lot of other Southern countries that are kind of like don’t want to go do
670 00:54:05.420 ⇒ 00:54:09.210 Uttam Kumaran: work there and then. The lovely thing is that you guys are on a similar time zone.
671 00:54:09.240 ⇒ 00:54:13.409 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s the problem with Indiana that the time zone is actually very difficult.
672 00:54:13.590 ⇒ 00:54:17.460 Uttam Kumaran: but because of the cost of living there, it’s so low that people just deal with it.
673 00:54:17.480 ⇒ 00:54:23.630 Uttam Kumaran: But here I think it’s actually would be a lot better. And I see there’s a lot of people working with people in Mexico City
674 00:54:23.740 ⇒ 00:54:25.170 Uttam Kumaran: and people like, Yeah.
675 00:54:25.170 ⇒ 00:54:27.549 Nicolas Sucari: And and and there is a lot of people that is.
676 00:54:27.980 ⇒ 00:54:31.430 Nicolas Sucari: there is a lot of people that is really good qualified here to work.
677 00:54:31.430 ⇒ 00:54:32.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
678 00:54:32.420 ⇒ 00:54:56.960 Nicolas Sucari: Within, with the us with other companies abroad and the and the time zone makes it like really perfect. At some point we were called like the New India, because it was like 2 years ago, or 3 3 years ago. It was like really cheap to hire here in Argentina, if you were a company from abroad. But yeah, but other legal stuff. It was like it was not permitted. So people started to work for
679 00:54:56.980 ⇒ 00:55:01.179 Nicolas Sucari: companies abroad and not paying taxes here.
680 00:55:01.180 ⇒ 00:55:01.880 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
681 00:55:01.880 ⇒ 00:55:21.620 Nicolas Sucari: Now, it’s kind of getting better. But yeah, I mean, people is like, really qualified. You have all you have a lot of people like coming out from the universities with a lot of knowledge, with all those things that they want to do and they know to do. And the time zone is perfect to work at the same time zone, and you don’t need to deal with people working at 2 Am. 3 am. Or that kind of that kind of stuff.
682 00:55:22.140 ⇒ 00:55:22.560 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
683 00:55:23.210 ⇒ 00:55:23.929 Uttam Kumaran: no, for that.
684 00:55:23.930 ⇒ 00:55:24.910 Nicolas Sucari: Happened to me.
685 00:55:25.340 ⇒ 00:55:39.204 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I I worked at like center like 3 months. Actually, I didn’t like it. Just quit. And my accenture team was all in in India, and this was kind of really difficult to connect with them.
686 00:55:39.950 ⇒ 00:55:47.100 Nicolas Sucari: but yeah, I mean, things happen. I tried to manage it. I I left, not because of that. I left because other stuff that
687 00:55:47.536 ⇒ 00:55:51.699 Nicolas Sucari: but yeah, I know the the time. Zones are really difficult. Sometimes.
688 00:55:53.610 ⇒ 00:55:57.199 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And the other. The other thing I always said was like, Look, I’m just looking for the best
689 00:55:57.300 ⇒ 00:56:01.569 Uttam Kumaran: people. And the reason why I want to continue to push us. To be
690 00:56:01.610 ⇒ 00:56:06.389 Uttam Kumaran: remote, friendly is because they can be anywhere and like, our work is all online.
691 00:56:06.830 ⇒ 00:56:10.290 Uttam Kumaran: So like, I would like to have people here in an office, but
692 00:56:10.380 ⇒ 00:56:13.190 Uttam Kumaran: doesn’t mean we can’t work with other people. And
693 00:56:13.540 ⇒ 00:56:18.070 Uttam Kumaran: it’s never gonna be perfect anymore. I think the kind of the cat is out of the bag on that one like
694 00:56:18.180 ⇒ 00:56:26.550 Uttam Kumaran: remote work is kind of gonna be here to stay. So for me, the problem is hiring in us is is expensive beyond the belief.
695 00:56:26.550 ⇒ 00:56:27.449 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I know.
696 00:56:28.210 ⇒ 00:56:29.260 Uttam Kumaran: It’s insane.
697 00:56:29.260 ⇒ 00:56:29.910 Nicolas Sucari: So Daddy.
698 00:56:31.080 ⇒ 00:56:34.760 Uttam Kumaran: that’s the problem for business owners right now is that like.
699 00:56:34.800 ⇒ 00:56:37.309 Uttam Kumaran: if you hire someone in New York, DC.
700 00:56:37.510 ⇒ 00:56:39.509 Uttam Kumaran: San Francisco, like
701 00:56:39.830 ⇒ 00:56:45.219 Uttam Kumaran: the the amount people are expecting is like, it’s it’s not possible to start a business.
702 00:56:45.720 ⇒ 00:56:46.789 Uttam Kumaran: you know, like.
703 00:56:46.900 ⇒ 00:56:50.220 Uttam Kumaran: with those types of salaries in mind, it’s like really crippling.
704 00:56:50.650 ⇒ 00:56:51.180 Uttam Kumaran: So.
705 00:56:51.180 ⇒ 00:56:51.880 Nicolas Sucari: Costly and email.
706 00:56:51.880 ⇒ 00:56:54.139 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t. I don’t. Yeah. It’s really tough.
707 00:56:54.930 ⇒ 00:57:17.379 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I know, I know. And that’s why, like going for Argentina or yeah, Latin, American countries is kind of great to find people and imagining that here, if you wanna start a business and you wanna like pay an employee, you need to pay like if you say I’m gonna pay 100 for an employee like you need to pay 200, because a hundred like the the government keeps a hundred. Right? So that’s why it was late.
708 00:57:17.380 ⇒ 00:57:17.820 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
709 00:57:17.820 ⇒ 00:57:24.792 Nicolas Sucari: Difficult to start businesses. And that’s why. Here we have something called working
710 00:57:25.550 ⇒ 00:57:50.699 Nicolas Sucari: how? How we can say it in English I don’t know, but here is in negro and in like, in white and in black. If you’re in white, is, you have like an actual contract legally, and that stuff, and if you are like on black, it means that like I’m the owner. I pay you directly, and we don’t pay any taxes, not not you, and not me. But you. The employee receives receives more money that if he’s on like the legal part of
711 00:57:50.740 ⇒ 00:57:51.760 Nicolas Sucari: part of the site
712 00:57:52.105 ⇒ 00:58:04.799 Nicolas Sucari: so it’s kind of crazy. So what what Mila is trying to do is to decrease those taxes. So more people could be like employed at a legal way, and not not legally, as we call it.
713 00:58:04.800 ⇒ 00:58:05.490 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
714 00:58:05.851 ⇒ 00:58:16.340 Nicolas Sucari: But but sometimes it’s really difficult, because you need to pay like extra a ton extra money for same people, or and probably it’s not not the best.
715 00:58:19.300 ⇒ 00:58:20.390 Nicolas Sucari: So Argentina has.
716 00:58:20.390 ⇒ 00:58:29.820 Uttam Kumaran: You can do it here. I mean, that’s kind of like what that’s. That’s basically what trump is running on. And the problem is as you become like. I tell a lot of people that like, Hey, I’m now a business owner.
717 00:58:30.210 ⇒ 00:58:36.429 Uttam Kumaran: and I don’t really. But like the one thing I care about is just working. If trump’s like, Hey, I’m gonna lower the business pack rate
718 00:58:36.810 ⇒ 00:58:41.359 Uttam Kumaran: and make it easier for people to hire abroad and stuff like that, and sponsor visas and stuff I’m like.
719 00:58:41.800 ⇒ 00:58:46.300 Uttam Kumaran: well that I’m a single issue voter then, because that’s what matters to me.
720 00:58:46.636 ⇒ 00:58:52.259 Uttam Kumaran: But then, also, I don’t know. I don’t think the government is like the worst company of all time.
721 00:58:53.030 ⇒ 00:58:54.250 Nicolas Sucari: That they can do any.
722 00:58:54.250 ⇒ 00:58:58.919 Uttam Kumaran: Thing correctly, and the thing is dude. The government you anybody can get a government job
723 00:58:59.440 ⇒ 00:59:09.739 Uttam Kumaran: like the government just gets free money from everybody, and then you expect them like, think about it. Think about how hard is even for us to get done at our size. Imagine you had, like millions and millions of people.
724 00:59:10.510 ⇒ 00:59:10.969 Nicolas Sucari: Oh, yeah.
725 00:59:10.970 ⇒ 00:59:15.359 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. It doesn’t make any sense. If you ever run an organization before, how
726 00:59:15.480 ⇒ 00:59:18.990 Uttam Kumaran: a government can function. And so for me, it’s like
727 00:59:19.130 ⇒ 00:59:20.420 Uttam Kumaran: I realize in my.
728 00:59:20.550 ⇒ 00:59:24.130 Uttam Kumaran: I like that like, regardless of what they do, we need to win.
729 00:59:24.830 ⇒ 00:59:25.580 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, exactly.
730 00:59:25.580 ⇒ 00:59:26.490 Uttam Kumaran: So I can’t. I.
731 00:59:26.490 ⇒ 00:59:27.649 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. Nice for me, too.
732 00:59:27.872 ⇒ 00:59:29.210 Uttam Kumaran: Not going to blame the government
733 00:59:29.270 ⇒ 00:59:31.070 Uttam Kumaran: like. What am I gonna do?
734 00:59:31.590 ⇒ 00:59:32.189 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t like.
735 00:59:32.190 ⇒ 00:59:32.710 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, yeah.
736 00:59:32.710 ⇒ 00:59:35.449 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, Oh, the government gonna do this government do that. I’m like.
737 00:59:35.470 ⇒ 00:59:39.030 Uttam Kumaran: it would be great if they helped me. But at minimum they could just get out of the way.
738 00:59:40.010 ⇒ 00:59:45.069 Nicolas Sucari: That’s that’s like the main thinking here. So that’s why a lot of people is like employed illegally.
739 00:59:45.749 ⇒ 00:59:59.330 Nicolas Sucari: Because if you let the government. In the way you, you need to spend much more money. And the costs like are not actually worth it. So that you can have like a yeah, like a working business.
740 00:59:59.350 ⇒ 01:00:00.470 Nicolas Sucari: I’m
741 01:00:00.620 ⇒ 01:00:13.540 Nicolas Sucari: but yeah, it’s kind of crazy here. There is like a lot of people employed by the government, too. So that’s why, we pay a lot of taxes. And a lot of those taxes goes to people that works for the government and
742 01:00:13.590 ⇒ 01:00:19.120 Nicolas Sucari: sometimes work working for the government is like not working at all.
743 01:00:19.300 ⇒ 01:00:20.964 Nicolas Sucari: and that stories.
744 01:00:21.520 ⇒ 01:00:24.249 Uttam Kumaran: I mean here, too, like same thing here.
745 01:00:24.690 ⇒ 01:00:28.459 Uttam Kumaran: every. It’s the same thing here. It’s like a fake job, you know.
746 01:00:28.950 ⇒ 01:00:29.620 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I mean.
747 01:00:29.620 ⇒ 01:00:33.680 Uttam Kumaran: It might be nice if we got a government contract for some data stuff, I’d be very happy. But.
748 01:00:34.545 ⇒ 01:00:35.100 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
749 01:00:36.240 ⇒ 01:00:36.740 Uttam Kumaran: Because.
750 01:00:36.740 ⇒ 01:00:38.969 Nicolas Sucari: You can take money from the Government. That’s totally fine.
751 01:00:38.970 ⇒ 01:00:39.390 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
752 01:00:39.390 ⇒ 01:00:49.790 Nicolas Sucari: We will be actually doing some work. We are not gonna be in Argentina. We call them in Argentina. We call them gnocchis, you know, like the Italian Italian food gnocchi.
753 01:00:50.360 ⇒ 01:00:51.119 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
754 01:00:51.120 ⇒ 01:00:53.830 Nicolas Sucari: You’re you’re called an gnocchi when you
755 01:00:54.150 ⇒ 01:00:56.550 Nicolas Sucari: earn money, but you don’t work. Actually.
756 01:00:56.550 ⇒ 01:00:58.689 Uttam Kumaran: Why, what is the relation to the food.
757 01:00:59.310 ⇒ 01:01:00.966 Nicolas Sucari: I have no idea.
758 01:01:01.680 ⇒ 01:01:05.516 Uttam Kumaran: Like a fluffy pillow. Potato pillow. That’s what you are.
759 01:01:05.900 ⇒ 01:01:14.499 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know. I don’t know but you’re called, and gnocchi. If you earn money from the Government, or whatever, and you and you don’t work at all. Yeah.
760 01:01:15.060 ⇒ 01:01:17.170 Uttam Kumaran: Interesting. Interesting. Okay.
761 01:01:18.190 ⇒ 01:01:18.930 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
762 01:01:19.700 ⇒ 01:01:24.180 Nicolas Sucari: once I give you the matter, you will understand automatically. You will understand everything.
763 01:01:25.060 ⇒ 01:01:32.870 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I will. I will. Yeah, yeah, no, I’ll come. I’ll start already. I can. You know, I’m okay, understanding Spanish. But I need to start speaking more so.
764 01:01:33.840 ⇒ 01:01:35.319 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, don’t worry, don’t worry.
765 01:01:35.640 ⇒ 01:01:40.490 Nicolas Sucari: It’s a difficult, difficult language with a lot of slang in it, too.
766 01:01:41.300 ⇒ 01:01:46.909 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, between cultures. I mean, I’m glad it’s not port. You don’t speak Portuguese. There’s no, there’s no way I can learn that
767 01:01:47.430 ⇒ 01:01:48.360 Uttam Kumaran: Spanish.
768 01:01:48.360 ⇒ 01:01:48.860 Nicolas Sucari: Sort of.
769 01:01:48.860 ⇒ 01:01:53.529 Uttam Kumaran: I grew up speaking some Spanish, and here a lot of in Texas a lot of people speak Spanish, so.
770 01:01:54.560 ⇒ 01:01:55.240 Nicolas Sucari: Nice.
771 01:01:57.648 ⇒ 01:02:02.281 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? So then the last thing I wanna talk about is like stuff for Stella.
772 01:02:04.400 ⇒ 01:02:06.450 Uttam Kumaran: So the one thing is, we.
773 01:02:06.480 ⇒ 01:02:07.820 Uttam Kumaran: Anita.
774 01:02:08.370 ⇒ 01:02:10.260 Uttam Kumaran: create 5 trans.
775 01:02:10.530 ⇒ 01:02:12.320 Uttam Kumaran: Counts for everyone.
776 01:02:12.530 ⇒ 01:02:14.114 Uttam Kumaran: The next thing is
777 01:02:14.700 ⇒ 01:02:16.189 Uttam Kumaran: There was some stuff
778 01:02:16.850 ⇒ 01:02:19.790 Uttam Kumaran: back and forth between Nick and Robert.
779 01:02:23.340 ⇒ 01:02:29.380 Uttam Kumaran: basically just want to make sure again, similarly, that the tickets that are there reflect
780 01:02:29.860 ⇒ 01:02:31.870 Uttam Kumaran: exactly like what needs to happen.
781 01:02:33.130 ⇒ 01:02:34.539 Uttam Kumaran: It seems like
782 01:02:34.780 ⇒ 01:02:38.579 Uttam Kumaran: Nick created a bunch of tickets that. And they’re that are kind of moving forward.
783 01:02:39.383 ⇒ 01:02:48.150 Uttam Kumaran: The other thing for Stella is like, you can also have Robert have a basically, I wanted them to kind of start to put stuff in real. So it’ll easy. It’ll be easy for you to explore
784 01:02:49.176 ⇒ 01:02:53.989 Uttam Kumaran: and we basically just can set up real. Maybe that’s something else that I can pass to
785 01:02:54.030 ⇒ 01:02:56.300 Uttam Kumaran: like Ryan, to to try and handle.
786 01:02:57.200 ⇒ 01:03:01.740 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, obviously. That ticket. Now, it’s assigned to
787 01:03:01.970 ⇒ 01:03:07.590 Nicolas Sucari: Nick, I think. But yeah, probably next week we can discuss it with them both on the meeting and see
788 01:03:07.600 ⇒ 01:03:09.520 Nicolas Sucari: who wants to start working on that.
789 01:03:09.610 ⇒ 01:03:15.930 Nicolas Sucari: And if we have Ryan do the real stuff for pull part. Probably he can do this too.
790 01:03:16.650 ⇒ 01:03:17.270 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
791 01:03:21.230 ⇒ 01:03:21.950 Nicolas Sucari: Yep.
792 01:03:24.800 ⇒ 01:03:26.673 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Cool.
793 01:03:28.530 ⇒ 01:03:40.390 Nicolas Sucari: I also talked with Nick and tried to ask him again about adding more context, or like splitting tickets, changing whatever he needs. And he told me that he will be commenting.
794 01:03:40.550 ⇒ 01:03:44.010 Nicolas Sucari: understand, on the tickets. And I think he did. So. Yeah.
795 01:03:44.550 ⇒ 01:03:45.529 Nicolas Sucari: that’s fine.
796 01:03:48.290 ⇒ 01:03:49.998 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. The other thing is,
797 01:03:52.330 ⇒ 01:03:53.350 Uttam Kumaran: okay. Great.
798 01:04:02.660 ⇒ 01:04:04.670 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Anything else
799 01:04:07.810 ⇒ 01:04:09.350 Uttam Kumaran: to talk about?
800 01:04:24.500 ⇒ 01:04:24.969 Uttam Kumaran: Are you going to.
801 01:04:25.730 ⇒ 01:04:27.698 Uttam Kumaran: Are you gonna shoot an email to
802 01:04:28.570 ⇒ 01:04:30.539 Uttam Kumaran: to forecast anything today?
803 01:04:31.780 ⇒ 01:04:35.940 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I was trying to. I’ve got
804 01:04:35.950 ⇒ 01:04:44.200 Nicolas Sucari: like a little bit of information. We for the pro versus consumer direct mail and the analysis for
805 01:04:44.520 ⇒ 01:04:56.449 Nicolas Sucari: the next warehouse. I don’t know if you want to share something on that one. But what I’m just gonna say that we are making some progress on the analysis, and we will present that on the next meeting, probably.
806 01:04:56.980 ⇒ 01:04:58.489 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And I think maybe just
807 01:04:58.560 ⇒ 01:05:04.599 Uttam Kumaran: mentioned that we’re meeting Kim on Monday. And then we’re we also began working on the shipment stuff.
808 01:05:04.760 ⇒ 01:05:06.439 Uttam Kumaran: So we’re gonna work on like
809 01:05:06.640 ⇒ 01:05:09.740 Uttam Kumaran: the analysis of where to open the next warehouse.
810 01:05:09.890 ⇒ 01:05:13.349 Uttam Kumaran: And basically our goal is to have everybody
811 01:05:13.670 ⇒ 01:05:20.529 Uttam Kumaran: like basically lower our cost to deliver every package, and we’re doing analysis on like where best to deliver
812 01:05:20.860 ⇒ 01:05:23.380 Uttam Kumaran: a package to based on where the customer is.
813 01:05:25.740 ⇒ 01:05:26.639 Uttam Kumaran: that should be great.
814 01:05:26.640 ⇒ 01:05:27.240 Nicolas Sucari: Baby.
815 01:05:28.780 ⇒ 01:05:30.785 Uttam Kumaran: Quick one, and then next week.
816 01:05:31.430 ⇒ 01:05:33.680 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I think we’ll make a lot of progress on shipping.
817 01:05:34.600 ⇒ 01:05:35.270 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
818 01:05:35.380 ⇒ 01:05:44.260 Nicolas Sucari: that should be like the 1st thing yeah, the the top priority for next week. Probably this is what I have. Let me send it here through slack!
819 01:05:44.620 ⇒ 01:05:45.029 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
820 01:05:51.800 ⇒ 01:06:01.400 Nicolas Sucari: And on Monday the meeting with Kim is for talking about like the lists that we are getting from pros so that we can start like some marketing action
821 01:06:01.610 ⇒ 01:06:03.090 Nicolas Sucari: according
822 01:06:03.805 ⇒ 01:06:06.960 Nicolas Sucari: locations, or it’s about the warehouse.
823 01:06:08.520 ⇒ 01:06:09.650 Uttam Kumaran: But say that one more time.
824 01:06:11.661 ⇒ 01:06:14.869 Nicolas Sucari: The meeting that you said on Monday with Kim is for.
825 01:06:14.870 ⇒ 01:06:19.279 Uttam Kumaran: We’re we’re gonna talk about. We’re gonna talk about direct mail and proverse consumer, mainly.
826 01:06:19.860 ⇒ 01:06:34.630 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, perfect. Yeah, exactly. That was what I was thinking. And then I don’t know if we like, if we’re gonna discuss next week about the warehouse. Yeah, where to locate the new warehouse like we need to start a meeting with Chuck. Probably.
827 01:06:36.640 ⇒ 01:06:40.490 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So there’s a meeting on Friday, and I do want to book a meeting.
828 01:06:40.870 ⇒ 01:06:43.940 Uttam Kumaran: I mean ideally latest Wednesday to meet with Chuck.
829 01:06:44.905 ⇒ 01:06:51.410 Uttam Kumaran: to connect Chuck, and like, basically want to send Chuck the notion and have a meeting between Chuck and Jacob.
830 01:06:52.280 ⇒ 01:06:52.930 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
831 01:06:53.130 ⇒ 01:07:03.840 Nicolas Sucari: probably on Monday, when we meet with Jacob on the planning session, we can, yes, start talking about creating that notion document. And then for Wednesday to have that meeting and present to Chuck.
832 01:07:04.470 ⇒ 01:07:08.970 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna just put a fake meeting on our Ca on both of our calendars. So we don’t forget.
833 01:07:09.430 ⇒ 01:07:10.120 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
834 01:07:10.120 ⇒ 01:07:10.970 Nicolas Sucari: Perfect.
835 01:07:20.680 ⇒ 01:07:22.960 Uttam Kumaran: that way. It’s there.
836 01:07:30.212 ⇒ 01:07:31.690 Uttam Kumaran: We have our
837 01:07:32.190 ⇒ 01:07:35.140 Uttam Kumaran: pro versus consumer meeting on Monday.
838 01:07:41.820 ⇒ 01:07:49.879 Uttam Kumaran: I thought the Friday meeting was good. I wonder. Yeah, I think it’s mainly for Jacob that we have it that late. But I think maybe what we can do next week is
839 01:07:49.950 ⇒ 01:07:55.369 Uttam Kumaran: we just have everybody go around the Horn the I didn’t I? I don’t know if we want to do like a proper
840 01:07:56.030 ⇒ 01:07:59.909 Uttam Kumaran: retro. Maybe now that we’re kind of like stabilized
841 01:08:00.620 ⇒ 01:08:09.350 Uttam Kumaran: to talk about how stuff is going. I thought today was really good, though I mean, like, if you add like, if you give me time, I’ll keep talking, but
842 01:08:09.440 ⇒ 01:08:11.749 Uttam Kumaran: it’s mainly I wanna get from everybody
843 01:08:12.220 ⇒ 01:08:16.729 Uttam Kumaran: like what’s what they thought about the week especially I would love for them to share.
844 01:08:17.050 ⇒ 01:08:20.850 Uttam Kumaran: you know one thing or 2 things ideally.
845 01:08:21.250 ⇒ 01:08:22.399 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
846 01:08:23.430 ⇒ 01:08:24.140 Uttam Kumaran: but
847 01:08:24.620 ⇒ 01:08:26.870 Uttam Kumaran: you know not the not the largest priority.
848 01:08:27.930 ⇒ 01:08:32.210 Nicolas Sucari: I I don’t know if you’re up to, but what I can do is like to set up some
849 01:08:33.160 ⇒ 01:08:37.240 Nicolas Sucari: like retro retroactivity like easy one.
850 01:08:37.670 ⇒ 01:08:40.420 Nicolas Sucari: so that everyone shares something
851 01:08:40.745 ⇒ 01:08:44.729 Nicolas Sucari: we can use like a board or something like that. I know I use
852 01:08:44.859 ⇒ 01:08:45.950 Nicolas Sucari: if you want
853 01:08:46.419 ⇒ 01:08:50.890 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know if any everyone is, gonna be really into it. But we can try.
854 01:08:52.859 ⇒ 01:08:53.893 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, our
855 01:08:56.659 ⇒ 01:09:00.669 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, we could do a retro board or like, we can even use like.
856 01:09:01.219 ⇒ 01:09:05.679 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, maybe, yeah, we, I think I would say, either do it in notion or do it in Sigma.
857 01:09:06.869 ⇒ 01:09:10.099 Uttam Kumaran: the stigma. It’s nice you can do post it, and they have some templates.
858 01:09:11.020 ⇒ 01:09:13.240 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, fake fake jam. We can use fake jam.
859 01:09:13.240 ⇒ 01:09:18.259 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, just do big jam. If you search big jam retro template, you’ll see
860 01:09:18.450 ⇒ 01:09:19.620 Uttam Kumaran: some stuff there.
861 01:09:20.279 ⇒ 01:09:25.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I know I’ve had a nice you could set. You could set a timer. Basically, we’ll set like a 5 min timer.
862 01:09:26.035 ⇒ 01:09:27.809 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like, What is it like?
863 01:09:27.819 ⇒ 01:09:31.200 Uttam Kumaran: Good, bad, some other stuff, and then just talk through things. That’s it.
864 01:09:31.580 ⇒ 01:09:34.620 Uttam Kumaran: Have people vote also. What we, what we did last time is like.
865 01:09:34.640 ⇒ 01:09:35.980 Uttam Kumaran: I think we did good.
866 01:09:36.279 ⇒ 01:09:40.330 Uttam Kumaran: forgot what the categories are. And then we basically did, plus one on the things that are like
867 01:09:42.529 ⇒ 01:09:45.029 Uttam Kumaran: like everybody goes through in both. And then we can just talk.
868 01:09:45.180 ⇒ 01:09:46.739 Uttam Kumaran: see? As much as we’ve got. Yeah.
869 01:09:47.939 ⇒ 01:09:48.909 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. Totally.
870 01:09:50.959 ⇒ 01:09:51.499 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
871 01:09:51.500 ⇒ 01:09:53.069 Uttam Kumaran: Great. Yeah, that’d be awesome for next week.
872 01:09:53.979 ⇒ 01:09:57.409 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, that’s easy easy to do. I’m gonna work on it again.
873 01:09:57.779 ⇒ 01:10:04.339 Nicolas Sucari: Okay? And and last thing, I’m I’m working on like reviewing all of the milestones.
874 01:10:04.389 ⇒ 01:10:11.079 Nicolas Sucari: and we have like a lot of tickets that I don’t know where. To which milestone do we need to assign them to?
875 01:10:11.370 ⇒ 01:10:12.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
876 01:10:13.190 ⇒ 01:10:15.521 Uttam Kumaran: like. So let’s go through right now. Maybe, like,
877 01:10:15.790 ⇒ 01:10:17.630 Uttam Kumaran: verify 2. Fa.
878 01:10:17.760 ⇒ 01:10:19.719 Uttam Kumaran: is there a security thing.
879 01:10:21.190 ⇒ 01:10:23.308 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know if there is a security thing yet.
880 01:10:23.520 ⇒ 01:10:24.326 Uttam Kumaran: We just
881 01:10:26.180 ⇒ 01:10:28.289 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s just one idea.
882 01:10:31.720 ⇒ 01:10:34.839 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll just lump it into the production snowflake environment.
883 01:10:35.590 ⇒ 01:10:36.720 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine
884 01:10:37.020 ⇒ 01:10:40.539 Uttam Kumaran: implement sales shipments. The Jared one.
885 01:10:40.780 ⇒ 01:10:43.269 Uttam Kumaran: I think this is related to
886 01:10:44.010 ⇒ 01:10:45.230 Uttam Kumaran: the.
887 01:10:47.280 ⇒ 01:10:50.190 Nicolas Sucari: There is something about new new warehouse or ship.
888 01:10:50.430 ⇒ 01:10:52.870 Nicolas Sucari: a new shipment data model, probably
889 01:10:55.070 ⇒ 01:10:58.370 Nicolas Sucari: no new shipment process for onboarding new shipment providers.
890 01:11:16.840 ⇒ 01:11:18.049 Nicolas Sucari: Can you hear me.
891 01:11:18.890 ⇒ 01:11:19.581 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I can hear you.
892 01:11:19.720 ⇒ 01:11:20.220 Nicolas Sucari: Head.
893 01:11:20.559 ⇒ 01:11:20.900 Uttam Kumaran: Him.
894 01:11:24.800 ⇒ 01:11:25.810 Uttam Kumaran: Well, so.
895 01:11:25.960 ⇒ 01:11:29.969 Uttam Kumaran: Jared, is sales shipment specific customers.
896 01:11:29.990 ⇒ 01:11:33.160 Uttam Kumaran: And then there’s an Akshay is working on sales so like
897 01:11:33.210 ⇒ 01:11:35.019 Uttam Kumaran: which one is. Do you know what’s different
898 01:11:36.440 ⇒ 01:11:38.550 Uttam Kumaran: is Jerry working on just a shipping fund.
899 01:11:39.942 ⇒ 01:11:48.350 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know if I I don’t think Jared has already started working on this because we were trying just to set up so we can change it easily if you want
900 01:11:48.700 ⇒ 01:11:56.669 Nicolas Sucari: what we would. We wanted Jared Jared to work on evidence was to create that like map view. Do you remember.
901 01:11:57.040 ⇒ 01:11:58.200 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
902 01:12:00.500 ⇒ 01:12:03.159 Uttam Kumaran: yeah. Yeah. Okay, so that’s all related to shipments.
903 01:12:03.400 ⇒ 01:12:05.688 Uttam Kumaran: This is the testing
904 01:13:07.440 ⇒ 01:13:09.119 Uttam Kumaran: But wasn’t there one for like
905 01:13:09.510 ⇒ 01:13:12.200 Uttam Kumaran: making sure that there’s no issues or something
906 01:13:14.360 ⇒ 01:13:17.340 Uttam Kumaran: keeping tools up to date. Yeah, okay, yeah.
907 01:13:30.490 ⇒ 01:13:34.259 Nicolas Sucari: Or tests. We have the freshness. One.
908 01:13:34.260 ⇒ 01:13:34.684 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
909 01:13:41.630 ⇒ 01:13:43.450 Nicolas Sucari: Oh, that’s another one. I think
910 01:13:43.910 ⇒ 01:13:46.310 Nicolas Sucari: data logic test, some key logic. Okay.
911 01:13:46.440 ⇒ 01:13:47.430 Nicolas Sucari: yeah. Okay.
912 01:13:47.680 ⇒ 01:13:50.300 Nicolas Sucari: because we have another one on freshness.
913 01:13:51.170 ⇒ 01:13:51.860 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
914 01:14:10.330 ⇒ 01:14:11.590 Nicolas Sucari: Perfect. Okay.
915 01:14:13.590 ⇒ 01:14:14.170 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
916 01:14:16.770 ⇒ 01:14:17.340 Nicolas Sucari: I mean.
917 01:14:17.340 ⇒ 01:14:17.926 Uttam Kumaran: On your
918 01:14:18.560 ⇒ 01:14:22.570 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, on your email. So Robert’s going to agree to launch over here to check the client.
919 01:14:22.780 ⇒ 01:14:27.729 Uttam Kumaran: decide to go with 3 segments. We work with grade on 5. Let’s recommend moving attention for the analysis.
920 01:14:27.850 ⇒ 01:14:29.379 Uttam Kumaran: the possible.
921 01:14:30.740 ⇒ 01:14:37.939 Uttam Kumaran: So in terms of the scheduling some time on Monday, Kim, so we wanna we wanna, I think just to add, you can say
922 01:14:38.120 ⇒ 01:14:41.560 Uttam Kumaran: to go over actions for
923 01:14:41.620 ⇒ 01:14:43.100 Uttam Kumaran: re-engaging
924 01:14:43.290 ⇒ 01:14:47.580 Uttam Kumaran: existing pros and attracting new pros
925 01:14:48.350 ⇒ 01:14:49.930 Uttam Kumaran: that way. It’s just very clear.
926 01:15:13.740 ⇒ 01:15:15.300 Nicolas Sucari: Probably we can add that week
927 01:15:15.310 ⇒ 01:15:17.290 Nicolas Sucari: are still working on
928 01:15:20.230 ⇒ 01:15:22.670 Nicolas Sucari: tests or something about testing
929 01:15:23.150 ⇒ 01:15:24.609 Nicolas Sucari: elementary testing.
930 01:15:25.960 ⇒ 01:15:30.489 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s fine. There we already been pricing that every week so.
931 01:15:31.510 ⇒ 01:15:32.210 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
932 01:15:33.890 ⇒ 01:15:37.267 Nicolas Sucari: well, this is what we have until now.
933 01:15:42.610 ⇒ 01:15:45.179 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, just making a few changes
934 01:15:45.470 ⇒ 01:15:46.220 Uttam Kumaran: time.
935 01:16:42.570 ⇒ 01:16:44.690 Uttam Kumaran: Then one more thing I want to add
936 01:16:45.030 ⇒ 01:16:47.820 Uttam Kumaran: is the units today.
937 01:17:28.730 ⇒ 01:17:29.750 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? Perfect.
938 01:17:30.480 ⇒ 01:17:31.170 Nicolas Sucari: Bay.
939 01:17:32.010 ⇒ 01:17:32.920 Nicolas Sucari: Great!
940 01:17:36.980 ⇒ 01:17:39.850 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I’ll be sending this in a couple of minutes.
941 01:17:42.780 ⇒ 01:17:43.960 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect.
942 01:17:44.910 ⇒ 01:17:46.080 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you.
943 01:17:47.490 ⇒ 01:17:50.510 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, you, Tom, have a great weekend. Good luck with the.
944 01:17:50.510 ⇒ 01:17:51.450 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, you too.
945 01:17:51.730 ⇒ 01:17:53.380 Nicolas Sucari: Moving on Sunday.
946 01:17:53.380 ⇒ 01:17:56.070 Uttam Kumaran: I appreciate. I’ll talk to you on Monday from the new place.
947 01:17:57.049 ⇒ 01:17:57.650 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
948 01:17:58.040 ⇒ 01:17:59.450 Nicolas Sucari: Okay? Bye, bye.
949 01:17:59.450 ⇒ 01:18:00.909 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Thanks. Nika Jennifer.