Meeting Title: Zoom-Meeting Date: 2024-06-25 Meeting participants: Ryan Luke Daque, Nicolas Sucari, Jakob Kagel


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1 00:00:29.630 00:00:30.730 Hey! Jacob.

2 00:00:36.340 00:00:42.949 Nicolas Sucari: Kind of tricky that information right? I don’t know why. It’s like a number on one side and a different one. Real.

3 00:00:42.950 00:00:48.589 Jakob Kagel: Yeah, I mean, exactly. I’m a little concerned. Because, yeah, I mean, I I can’t

4 00:00:48.610 00:00:50.629 Jakob Kagel: say like, exactly

5 00:00:50.950 00:00:59.309 Jakob Kagel: like I can’t remember every number like off the top of my head. But I mean, 1st of all, it’s like they shouldn’t. Yeah, they should match like the 15.

6 00:00:59.310 00:00:59.820 Nicolas Sucari: Exactly.

7 00:01:00.455 00:01:01.090 Jakob Kagel: Real.

8 00:01:01.440 00:01:04.639 Jakob Kagel: It should not be 800. Something in the table.

9 00:01:06.430 00:01:07.410 Jakob Kagel: so.

10 00:01:07.410 00:01:09.900 Nicolas Sucari: If we like, if we split

11 00:01:10.030 00:01:14.260 Nicolas Sucari: like. Our logic now includes, like 3 different variables. Right?

12 00:01:14.730 00:01:19.029 Nicolas Sucari: 1st of all is the self identify flag that we have from the checkout.

13 00:01:19.400 00:01:22.480 Nicolas Sucari: So that was kind of 16 K. Right

14 00:01:22.620 00:01:23.220 Nicolas Sucari: customer.

15 00:01:23.220 00:01:30.390 Jakob Kagel: Right. That’s that’s what I’m I mean, that’s what I’m like confused about. And that’s also like, what’s like concerning it’s like.

16 00:01:30.540 00:01:31.680 Jakob Kagel: Okay.

17 00:01:31.720 00:01:37.820 Jakob Kagel: like, we shouldn’t like we shouldn’t have overwritten like, and I talked to Tom about this yesterday, but like.

18 00:01:38.110 00:01:38.790 Nicolas Sucari: China.

19 00:01:38.790 00:01:46.690 Jakob Kagel: Like we shouldn’t. If we’re gonna create our own like pool pro like flag, we should not name. It is pool pro.

20 00:01:47.090 00:01:49.379 Nicolas Sucari: No, because that’s the checkout flag.

21 00:01:49.650 00:01:54.949 Jakob Kagel: Right. And that’s the checkout flag, right? And then that’s very confusing.

22 00:01:57.120 00:02:06.069 Jakob Kagel: like. So that’s the part that yeah, I’m confused about. Cause I’m like, okay. And but then even then, it’s like, okay, if our logic right?

23 00:02:06.210 00:02:08.460 Jakob Kagel: Say, we’re taking email

24 00:02:08.509 00:02:17.019 Jakob Kagel: is pool pro true and like the multiple orders, then our total should still be higher than.

25 00:02:17.020 00:02:17.550 Nicolas Sucari: Exactly.

26 00:02:17.550 00:02:24.570 Jakob Kagel: Overall pool pro number like or like the self identified pool pro number. Like, if cause we’re combining shouldn’t be. It shouldn’t be.

27 00:02:24.570 00:02:26.669 Nicolas Sucari: We’re adding them, yeah, exactly.

28 00:02:27.000 00:02:29.030 Jakob Kagel: They, they should be combined. Yeah.

29 00:02:29.030 00:02:32.948 Nicolas Sucari: We are adding them, and we are. We are not like seeing which

30 00:02:33.680 00:02:59.419 Nicolas Sucari: which clients like have the 3 variables to name it through right. It should be like an aggregate number of all these self identified all the ones that we have. The emails that we are guessing. And the the clients that order more than 2 pumps, probably, or something like that right? That number should be higher on each, like individual number that we have for each of the 3 variables.

31 00:03:00.380 00:03:01.320 Jakob Kagel: Yeah.

32 00:03:06.220 00:03:08.729 Jakob Kagel: I’m just he’s writing the mess image today. Can you join.

33 00:03:08.730 00:03:09.590 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, yeah.

34 00:03:09.800 00:03:10.115 Jakob Kagel: Yeah.

35 00:03:41.750 00:03:44.579 Nicolas Sucari: I send the link on that thread? Yeah, probably.

36 00:04:19.040 00:04:20.770 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I I think

37 00:04:22.780 00:04:26.029 Nicolas Sucari: And with you that that number shouldn’t be like

38 00:04:26.570 00:04:30.260 Nicolas Sucari: lower than what we are identifying as the self.

39 00:04:30.860 00:04:41.610 Jakob Kagel: Right, because even then, like, even if it’s whatever 700 is still lower than like 800 self identified, or whatever I mean. Anyway, hey, Ryan.

40 00:04:42.284 00:04:42.740 Ryan Luke Daque: Guys.

41 00:04:43.230 00:04:43.630 Nicolas Sucari: Iran.

42 00:04:44.690 00:04:55.160 Jakob Kagel: okay, cool. Yeah. Thanks for joining the call. I think it’d just be easier right if we just talk through this like instead of like going back and forth on text. Right? So

43 00:04:55.780 00:05:03.020 Jakob Kagel: the 14 k. 15 k. That we see in real. And then the 8 27 that is in the table

44 00:05:03.180 00:05:06.569 Jakob Kagel: can. Do you understand? Like, what is there.

45 00:05:07.080 00:05:12.810 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, let me maybe share my screen. That should be probably easier to understand.

46 00:05:13.873 00:05:15.737 Ryan Luke Daque: Can you see my screen? By the way.

47 00:05:15.970 00:05:16.450 Jakob Kagel: This is.

48 00:05:16.450 00:05:17.230 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

49 00:05:17.680 00:05:20.369 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah. So there’s actually like 9

50 00:05:20.830 00:05:23.500 Ryan Luke Daque: different is pool. Pro.

51 00:05:23.670 00:05:25.859 Ryan Luke Daque: Wait, let me zoom in

52 00:05:28.060 00:05:30.340 Ryan Luke Daque: right? So there’s like, there’s

53 00:05:30.690 00:05:33.710 Ryan Luke Daque: the 1st one is the is pool pro derived.

54 00:05:33.770 00:05:39.909 Ryan Luke Daque: which is the 675 that you were like talking about. And this is basically

55 00:05:41.480 00:05:43.319 Ryan Luke Daque: like, based on the

56 00:05:43.750 00:05:45.749 Ryan Luke Daque: from what I understand here.

57 00:05:46.070 00:05:46.895 Ryan Luke Daque: there’s

58 00:05:48.350 00:05:49.850 Ryan Luke Daque: yeah, it’s this one.

59 00:05:50.590 00:05:53.439 Ryan Luke Daque: the 1st one which is coming from.

60 00:05:58.280 00:06:00.009 Ryan Luke Daque: where was that?

61 00:06:02.470 00:06:05.219 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, basically, the one that’s that’s

62 00:06:05.410 00:06:07.000 Ryan Luke Daque: anytime that

63 00:06:07.370 00:06:10.100 Ryan Luke Daque: customer is has this.

64 00:06:10.770 00:06:13.669 Ryan Luke Daque: are you a pool industry, professional? Basically.

65 00:06:13.670 00:06:18.269 Jakob Kagel: That’s that’s that. Shouldn’t be right, though. Then like, sorry you’re saying this.

66 00:06:18.270 00:06:18.990 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, for.

67 00:06:18.990 00:06:19.640 Jakob Kagel: I’veed.

68 00:06:20.190 00:06:21.930 Ryan Luke Daque: Yes, this is for derive.

69 00:06:21.930 00:06:29.270 Jakob Kagel: I mean. Utom had a conversation about this last night, and I was like saying that derived would be our

70 00:06:29.530 00:06:36.430 Jakob Kagel: like. That would be the like our naming convention, for, like our is pool pro like definition.

71 00:06:36.790 00:06:38.129 Ryan Luke Daque: And what is that? Again.

72 00:06:38.130 00:06:41.269 Jakob Kagel: About that. I mean, I’m not saying that you’re wrong, but like.

73 00:06:41.270 00:06:41.659 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah.

74 00:06:43.210 00:06:46.549 Ryan Luke Daque: what’s our definition then? For the is pool pro.

75 00:06:46.550 00:06:52.890 Jakob Kagel: It would be like the combination of like the self identified the email and like the 2 plus orders.

76 00:06:53.230 00:07:01.169 Jakob Kagel: So I mean, so the 14 K. Here, let’s maybe start with like the 1415 K, that’s in real right.

77 00:07:01.630 00:07:03.089 Ryan Luke Daque: It’s like the blue process.

78 00:07:03.090 00:07:04.430 Jakob Kagel: Self identified.

79 00:07:04.490 00:07:09.380 Jakob Kagel: So that should be coming from the what you just pointed out.

80 00:07:10.530 00:07:13.799 Jakob Kagel: like the the line item, or whatever

81 00:07:13.910 00:07:18.540 Jakob Kagel: like that should that number is like closer to what we had previously.

82 00:07:19.170 00:07:27.277 Ryan Luke Daque: Maybe this is cause this is the one the the self identified, based on what? The, what time created here. It’s the

83 00:07:28.737 00:07:30.350 Ryan Luke Daque: Where was that?

84 00:07:32.900 00:07:35.269 Nicolas Sucari: It’s it’s the raw information. Yeah.

85 00:07:35.270 00:07:36.139 Ryan Luke Daque: Yes, it’s the right.

86 00:07:36.140 00:07:39.530 Nicolas Sucari: Are we doing? Okay? So that’s that’s correct. Okay.

87 00:07:39.530 00:07:40.010 Ryan Luke Daque: The role.

88 00:07:40.010 00:07:49.400 Nicolas Sucari: That. Okay, that’s like our 1st variable. And that’s like our base number. To start with the full provided identification of customers. Okay.

89 00:07:49.400 00:07:59.149 Ryan Luke Daque: But you mentioned that the the I so sorry about that, Nicholas. But Jacob mentioned that the our definition for is pool pro is whether it’s

90 00:07:59.180 00:08:00.919 Ryan Luke Daque: from email, right?

91 00:08:01.300 00:08:04.470 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, it, but they should. They should be aggregate.

92 00:08:04.470 00:08:05.250 Jakob Kagel: Yeah, it should be.

93 00:08:05.610 00:08:05.970 Ryan Luke Daque: Age!

94 00:08:05.970 00:08:13.319 Jakob Kagel: Becky. It should. Yeah, it shouldn’t be like the derived number should be higher than the 14 K.

95 00:08:15.190 00:08:20.230 Jakob Kagel: Like, because it should be, it should be the 14 k plus.

96 00:08:20.814 00:08:38.405 Jakob Kagel: And then also, another thing is like when we have it in the table like we don’t have in the table right now is pool pro derived? Or is pool pro self identified? So we need to split those out. We need to keep this self identified one as a column.

97 00:08:38.750 00:08:42.052 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, I think it’s there. It’s just named differently.

98 00:08:42.429 00:08:43.099 Jakob Kagel: Okay.

99 00:08:43.620 00:08:47.449 Ryan Luke Daque: And yeah, based on what I see here

100 00:08:47.830 00:08:50.310 Ryan Luke Daque: for customers.

101 00:08:52.330 00:08:54.489 Ryan Luke Daque: So that is derived.

102 00:08:55.250 00:08:56.080 Ryan Luke Daque: Wait

103 00:08:57.540 00:09:02.540 Ryan Luke Daque: is is the is pool pro in the table, basically.

104 00:09:02.870 00:09:06.560 Ryan Luke Daque: And then the self identified is called

105 00:09:06.900 00:09:10.609 Ryan Luke Daque: is pool pro checkout flag. In the in the table.

106 00:09:10.960 00:09:31.249 Jakob Kagel: Is pool pro checkout flag. Okay? So that is, wait. See, this is like, yeah, th, this is like, we need to communicate this like internally, I guess I don’t know or what like, you know. But okay. So now I’m running is pool pro checkout flag. And now I’m getting the 16 K, okay.

107 00:09:31.250 00:09:31.990 Ryan Luke Daque: Right.

108 00:09:32.373 00:09:34.290 Jakob Kagel: Okay, so this makes sense.

109 00:09:34.320 00:09:36.260 Jakob Kagel: So, but

110 00:09:36.560 00:09:44.530 Jakob Kagel: yeah, I don’t. I don’t like that. We have the naming in the dashboard is like derived and self-identified, and then the naming in the table.

111 00:09:45.079 00:09:45.629 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah.

112 00:09:45.630 00:09:50.740 Jakob Kagel: And is pool pro checkout flag. That’s that’s not like, yeah.

113 00:09:50.740 00:09:55.289 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, it’s not. It’s inconsistent. And and and yeah, I I get you. It’s like it.

114 00:09:55.290 00:09:56.459 Jakob Kagel: Right? So that’s.

115 00:09:56.460 00:09:57.400 Ryan Luke Daque: Using right.

116 00:09:57.400 00:09:59.429 Jakob Kagel: Right. And that’s where yeah.

117 00:09:59.470 00:10:13.850 Jakob Kagel: and and and that’s what I’m trying to to to understand exactly. And then even then, it’s like, Okay, if we have is pool pro checkout flag. 16 K. Why are we only getting like 14 K. In the dashboard.

118 00:10:14.140 00:10:18.069 Jakob Kagel: like all time? Period right?

119 00:10:18.470 00:10:19.170 Ryan Luke Daque: Right.

120 00:10:19.170 00:10:21.249 Jakob Kagel: Missing like 2,000,

121 00:10:22.560 00:10:23.389 Jakob Kagel: like even.

122 00:10:23.390 00:10:24.209 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, no doubt.

123 00:10:24.210 00:10:26.730 Jakob Kagel: But if we’re using the self identified one.

124 00:10:28.170 00:10:29.319 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, I think.

125 00:10:29.720 00:10:30.430 Jakob Kagel: You what I’m saying.

126 00:10:30.430 00:10:31.560 Ryan Luke Daque: Let’s see. Right?

127 00:10:33.400 00:10:41.019 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah. So the 14,000 or the 16,000 that you’re seeing for the all time is basically the the raw

128 00:10:41.100 00:10:43.569 Ryan Luke Daque: like, Nicola said, that’s coming from

129 00:10:44.494 00:10:45.910 Ryan Luke Daque: April that was coming.

130 00:10:45.910 00:10:48.949 Jakob Kagel: Screenshot. I can put this screenshot here like

131 00:10:50.194 00:10:51.220 Jakob Kagel: so.

132 00:10:51.220 00:11:00.420 Nicolas Sucari: Can you like? My question is, do we have, like the 3 different variables, like split apart, so that we understand the 3 numbers.

133 00:11:00.420 00:11:01.490 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, so Joe.

134 00:11:01.670 00:11:12.090 Nicolas Sucari: Each. Each is getting to us like we have the 16 K from the self identified. That’s okay. Do we have the number from the email domain. Like, how many?

135 00:11:12.220 00:11:13.410 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, we do have.

136 00:11:13.410 00:11:14.509 Ryan Luke Daque: 100 and 91.

137 00:11:14.510 00:11:17.993 Jakob Kagel: And that that I don’t think that’s the issue. Like, yeah.

138 00:11:18.310 00:11:21.519 Nicolas Sucari: Kind of fine. What I’m trying to understand is we have the 3

139 00:11:21.670 00:11:46.859 Nicolas Sucari: different things split apart. We need to aggregate that, obviously removing the duplicates that should be between them, and that should be like our baseline number of pull pros right? And then we can start using that number to split it into different dimensions and understand what is like in inside them. Right

140 00:11:46.910 00:11:56.660 Nicolas Sucari: like, if we want to understand which or if we wanna then split that number into amount of orders or amount of order items or amount of

141 00:11:56.750 00:12:04.649 Nicolas Sucari: pop pumps that they bought in a 365 day period. We can do it. But the baseline should be that aggregate number right.

142 00:12:04.920 00:12:16.999 Jakob Kagel: That’s exactly right. I mean, that is, that’s the like. The most important thing like when doing like this kind of like analysis and stuff is that we can always like tie the splits out to the total, and that we.

143 00:12:17.000 00:12:18.020 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, exactly.

144 00:12:18.020 00:12:45.160 Jakob Kagel: But the total number should be. You know what I’m saying like. If we don’t know what the total number should be or like, we can’t align on that North Star. It it can get buried like messy very quickly, because you take numbers that, like you’ll assume. Are, you know, valid? But you’re not validating them, you know. There’s no validation. So that’s I mean A, and I’ve learned this lesson, you know, many times kind of in my in my career. So

145 00:12:45.160 00:12:57.829 Jakob Kagel: that that’s exactly what I’m trying to do here is say, like, Okay, the 16 k, like that should be the total right. And then all of our splits should sum to the total. And that’s how we’re gonna validate it like.

146 00:12:58.191 00:13:04.489 Jakob Kagel: so yeah, that’s what we need to do here is, and I don’t know. We may have to push the meeting back a day, because.

147 00:13:04.510 00:13:14.430 Jakob Kagel: like we, I I think, like it should be 16 k. In real, too, right now. We only have 14.6. So we’re missing like 2,000,

148 00:13:14.580 00:13:15.299 Jakob Kagel: you know. It’s that.

149 00:13:15.300 00:13:20.380 Ryan Luke Daque: That’s because we’re like filtering here from January one.

150 00:13:20.760 00:13:24.029 Jakob Kagel: But that’s all time. That’s all time. So I it’s not.

151 00:13:24.030 00:13:24.690 Ryan Luke Daque: So excuse me.

152 00:13:24.690 00:13:27.500 Jakob Kagel: Thing right? Like, I mean, that’s the all time date range.

153 00:13:28.030 00:13:28.889 Ryan Luke Daque: Maybe I can.

154 00:13:28.890 00:13:33.909 Jakob Kagel: Select the same date range in the query, but it it should be the same, because that’s all time.

155 00:13:34.080 00:13:34.830 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, I think.

156 00:13:34.830 00:13:37.420 Jakob Kagel: Real quick. What is the date range? It’s like.

157 00:13:37.420 00:13:43.770 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, I think maybe would have made a filter over here. Let’s see.

158 00:13:46.160 00:13:51.329 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, we’ll have to check on that like, what what filtering is going on.

159 00:13:51.330 00:14:00.249 Jakob Kagel: Part that we need to. Yeah, that we need to check on, and that we need like to figure out. Because, yeah, I think it’s important to say, like, Yeah, this is like our total number of pool.

160 00:14:00.250 00:14:01.480 Nicolas Sucari: Exactly. Yeah.

161 00:14:02.180 00:14:17.449 Jakob Kagel: Cause. This is the whole issue I had with him yesterday, or like the discussion that we had yesterday, too, is like, Okay, like the sales numbers are like not tying out. And then it’s like the namings are confusing to like, you know, like, I don’t think.

162 00:14:17.970 00:14:18.820 Jakob Kagel: yeah.

163 00:14:19.180 00:14:20.510 Jakob Kagel: I yeah.

164 00:14:20.700 00:14:31.299 Jakob Kagel: I don’t. Yeah, exactly. So I I just think exactly like, yeah, we just need to first, st just align on this total number and see, like, okay, is that number going to match like in the dashboard from the table.

165 00:14:31.370 00:14:37.509 Jakob Kagel: like, you know. And if it doesn’t, yeah, why is it only 14 K. And why is it? Not? 16? K, you know.

166 00:14:38.270 00:14:39.180 Jakob Kagel: Yeah.

167 00:14:39.180 00:14:43.062 Ryan Luke Daque: I’m trying to see if, like this matches. If we add all these like

168 00:14:43.340 00:14:44.220 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, but it will.

169 00:14:44.220 00:14:45.290 Ryan Luke Daque: We, we.

170 00:14:45.600 00:15:00.340 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, but we don’t need to add like the exact number, because if we are like considering each they mentioned separately, probably there are duplicates between them. Right? Probably one of the emails is considered as self identified too. So what we need to do is to have.

171 00:15:00.500 00:15:00.660 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah.

172 00:15:00.660 00:15:03.549 Nicolas Sucari: 3 numbers are split apart and then

173 00:15:03.610 00:15:09.570 Nicolas Sucari: look between them to remove duplicate. Okay, once we have that number, we can start doing like

174 00:15:09.914 00:15:27.819 Nicolas Sucari: Ryan just left. Okay. But once we have that that number, we just start to split with different flags and understand how to segment that like big number. I think that’s the best way, and that’s the only way that each of the segmentation that we are gonna do afterwards will sum up the total number right.

175 00:15:28.630 00:15:46.643 Jakob Kagel: I agree. I I guess he dropped from the call. I don’t know. But yeah, I agree with you. And yeah, I don’t know. I don’t think that like I don’t think we should be too much in a rush. I mean, I know we wanna like, like, you know, present the stuff like to them. But we I mean, I think it’s more important that we like align on the.

176 00:15:46.890 00:15:47.770 Nicolas Sucari: Studies, yeah.

177 00:15:48.030 00:15:48.420 Jakob Kagel: Exactly.

178 00:15:48.420 00:15:50.049 Nicolas Sucari: We need to be accurate. Yeah.

179 00:15:50.050 00:15:59.880 Jakob Kagel: Back a day or whatever. Then we should do that, because, yeah, I don’t want to go in there and say, like, these are the numbers. And then we have to come back a week later. And we’re not confident. Basically.

180 00:15:59.880 00:16:07.458 Nicolas Sucari: No, no, me, me, neither. Me neither. So yeah, let’s let’s hope yeah, that Brian can work on it, or I don’t know. I’m gonna ask.

181 00:16:08.040 00:16:28.688 Jakob Kagel: I mean, I can jump on later this afternoon, too, like and yeah, so I mean, yeah, just let me know. But yeah, I think we. We’re on the same page. So we just need to communicate with him sort of like what the issue is and like what the concern is, and and why, like exactly, we want like these numbers like need to tie out. So

182 00:16:29.400 00:16:52.139 Nicolas Sucari: You know what we can do? You wanna write like what should be the names of the actual variables that we need to like like what what you’re hoping to understand from the variables. Just write that names and what to include like a brief description. And we can share that with put them and see if if that works so that we can all understand like the same thing.

183 00:16:52.910 00:16:56.224 Jakob Kagel: You mean like for each of the flags or whatnot like, yeah, like.

184 00:16:56.480 00:17:09.369 Nicolas Sucari: We? We have. Yeah, we have 3 different variables, right? That make out that that aggregate, all of aggregating them will do our baseline number so like what should be like the name of that variable

185 00:17:09.850 00:17:18.510 Nicolas Sucari: that each variable that we need, and what will be like the name of the aggregate variable like will be our baseline pull pro segment right?

186 00:17:18.940 00:17:20.537 Jakob Kagel: Yeah, I mean,

187 00:17:21.560 00:17:26.509 Nicolas Sucari: So that we can, so that we can agree in the best naming like convention

188 00:17:26.520 00:17:31.749 Nicolas Sucari: from all of us, and everyone understand, like what we need to do with the same information.

189 00:17:32.970 00:17:35.339 Nicolas Sucari: I can do it, if not. But yeah.

190 00:17:35.920 00:17:36.360 Jakob Kagel: Right.

191 00:17:36.360 00:17:37.450 Nicolas Sucari: Like, I’m like.

192 00:17:37.590 00:17:41.274 Jakob Kagel: Yeah, no, it’s fine. I mean, yeah, I’m I’m happy to help, too. I think.

193 00:17:41.610 00:17:45.380 Jakob Kagel: I think the 1st thing like in terms of the order of operations is like.

194 00:17:45.490 00:18:03.610 Jakob Kagel: let’s 1st like, figure out, why does the self identified flag number not match like in real? That’s the 1st one, right, so like. Why is it 14 k. Instead of 16 k. Then the next one is like, why is our derived pool pro flag less than the the self identified. One

195 00:18:03.760 00:18:17.710 Jakob Kagel: like that doesn’t make any sense either. Right? Like, why is it 675? It should be over 15 k. Or over 16 k. Whatever, like, you know, because we’re not like they, they shouldn’t be mutually exclusive. We’re like trying to combine them.

196 00:18:17.930 00:18:18.670 Jakob Kagel: Yeah. And.

197 00:18:18.670 00:18:19.260 Nicolas Sucari: Exactly.

198 00:18:19.610 00:18:39.804 Jakob Kagel: And then once we do that like we, and we finalize the derived logic, right? And say, like, Okay, it’s like 2 plus orders or 2 plus pump orders. Right? Then, we need to align on. Okay, this is the overall derived number, right? Like this is like the number that we’re gonna say is like the total number of pool pros.

199 00:18:40.940 00:18:58.220 Jakob Kagel: and yeah, because even the 675, or whatever doesn’t match either like what is in this the shopify orders or shopify customers. Table for the derived flag like is pool pro, because that number’s like 800 something. So there’s still one’s missing there, too. Yeah.

200 00:18:59.890 00:19:10.760 Jakob Kagel: But yeah, I think we should. Yeah, I think we should just jump on a call with him like later today. If he’s free. And I’m pretty free this afternoon, so

201 00:19:11.660 00:19:12.950 Jakob Kagel: just let me know.

202 00:19:16.330 00:19:16.760 Ryan Luke Daque: Cool.

203 00:19:17.125 00:19:17.490 Nicolas Sucari: Great.

204 00:19:17.860 00:19:19.568 Jakob Kagel: Cool. I gotta jump. Yeah.

205 00:19:19.910 00:19:28.669 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, I’m gonna I’m gonna send like, what are the numbers that we are expecting? I think. What do we need to do with the aggregate and see if everyone is like.

206 00:19:29.025 00:19:53.120 Nicolas Sucari: If everyone agrees on that that number, okay? And then we can start looking into why, the table is saying a number on real saying a different number, and we can try to fix that just to clarify. We got the self identified flag from Checkout. The amount of pros identified by email address. And we have the clients that order 2 or more pumps in a 3, 65 day period. Right? Like those are the 3

207 00:19:53.120 00:20:01.629 Nicolas Sucari: variables, or the last one needs to change. How was the what we agreed on the amount of orders or pumps? I know I don’t remember.

208 00:20:01.630 00:20:11.599 Jakob Kagel: I’m i i’m fine. I mean, I’m I’m I’m indifferent kind of on that, I think he, you know, decided I can’t remember exactly what we said, but

209 00:20:11.920 00:20:13.560 Jakob Kagel: I also don’t think like

210 00:20:13.670 00:20:28.069 Jakob Kagel: I also don’t think like for this next meeting that we necessarily need to have, like our own derived definition. Yet I mean, I I now I think the conversation that we’re gonna have in the meeting is gonna be like, Hey, this is the split for one. Order this for 2 orders.

211 00:20:28.070 00:20:42.200 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, exactly. So I’m not. I’m not. Gonna consider that variable in the base number. I’m gonna leave it for the segmentation later so that we can split that base number into one order to orders more than 2 orders and different stuff. Okay.

212 00:20:42.200 00:20:54.139 Jakob Kagel: Right? Right? Exactly. I mean, so yeah, so I think that exactly for the meeting, exactly. It’s like, we wanna say, like, Okay, these are the splits. And like, Yeah, do you wanna do 2 orders? You wanna do 2 plus like greater than.

213 00:20:54.140 00:20:54.930 Nicolas Sucari: Exactly.

214 00:20:54.930 00:21:15.920 Jakob Kagel: They’re gonna like they can pick the logic or whatever. So that’s why it’s not even the derived part is not even that important. I think we maybe got ahead of ourselves a little bit here. But the what’s really important is like, Okay, why is it? 14.6 K and not 16 in real, you know. And then, yeah, what is like the total number. And how do we get that, like, you know, to tie out? So yeah.

215 00:21:17.280 00:21:22.960 Jakob Kagel: Anyway, I got to bounce real quick. But yeah, just let me know if we need to jump on later.

216 00:21:24.850 00:21:26.230 Jakob Kagel: Okay, so that’s good.

217 00:21:26.870 00:21:27.810 Ryan Luke Daque: That’s good.

218 00:21:29.890 00:21:31.780 Nicolas Sucari: segmentation.

219 00:21:31.830 00:21:39.389 Nicolas Sucari: Or how do you say, after, okay, perfect. Okay, don’t worry. I’m I’ll send this message. And yeah.

220 00:21:39.390 00:21:41.850 Jakob Kagel: Let me, I’ll I’ll be free. Sounds good. See? It.

221 00:21:42.590 00:21:43.170 Nicolas Sucari: Thank you.

222 00:21:43.570 00:21:44.770 Ryan Luke Daque: Thanks thanks guys.

223 00:21:45.880 00:21:46.680 Nicolas Sucari: Thank you.