Meeting Title: Sales-Materials-Working-Session Date: 2024-06-19 Meeting participants: Jared Patterson, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:43.500 ⇒ 00:00:44.390 JARED PATTERSON: Hello!
2 00:00:44.390 ⇒ 00:00:44.820 Uttam Kumaran: Yo!
3 00:00:47.970 ⇒ 00:00:48.959 Uttam Kumaran: How’s it going.
4 00:00:50.130 ⇒ 00:00:51.380 JARED PATTERSON: Bad yourself.
5 00:00:51.720 ⇒ 00:00:58.040 Uttam Kumaran: Good. Okay, we can jump, probably right into stuff. So I’ll actually share how I’m
6 00:00:58.120 ⇒ 00:00:59.540 Uttam Kumaran: doing. These
7 00:00:59.710 ⇒ 00:01:00.979 Uttam Kumaran: kind of been like
8 00:01:00.990 ⇒ 00:01:08.752 Uttam Kumaran: a little bit of process for me to just talk to the computer and like, get this done. But I’m using this actual like interesting software called Aqua
9 00:01:11.340 ⇒ 00:01:18.129 Uttam Kumaran: so basically, I found this on Twitter or something where these guys are like this Y combinator startup.
10 00:01:18.240 ⇒ 00:01:21.560 Uttam Kumaran: And basically they’ve developed this like, really, really great
11 00:01:22.035 ⇒ 00:01:23.309 Uttam Kumaran: text to speech.
12 00:01:23.380 ⇒ 00:01:26.249 Uttam Kumaran: Sort of service, where
13 00:01:26.290 ⇒ 00:01:35.182 Uttam Kumaran: it’s just like way better than like chat gpt where you can actually be talking. And then you can also say, oh, delete that new paragraph, and you can just keep talking.
14 00:01:37.090 ⇒ 00:01:46.449 Uttam Kumaran: So I’ve recorded 2 of these that I think we can leverage for this for this process basically one about advertising and one about shipping.
15 00:01:47.227 ⇒ 00:01:48.569 Uttam Kumaran: Let me just
16 00:01:49.880 ⇒ 00:01:52.160 Uttam Kumaran: so make this
17 00:01:54.788 ⇒ 00:01:58.690 Uttam Kumaran: and I think we could just try to like paste this in and see
18 00:01:58.720 ⇒ 00:02:07.449 Uttam Kumaran: like if it works. The other thing I want to try to do today is basically try to create a to do list of all the ones that we need to work on.
19 00:02:07.470 ⇒ 00:02:09.845 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, wanna think about
20 00:02:10.750 ⇒ 00:02:14.569 Uttam Kumaran: one per industry, and then one per client.
21 00:02:14.630 ⇒ 00:02:18.659 Uttam Kumaran: and then also have like trackers for basically
22 00:02:20.390 ⇒ 00:02:21.550 Uttam Kumaran: not only
23 00:02:22.100 ⇒ 00:02:28.130 Uttam Kumaran: creating the transcript, but confirming the final copy and then actually creating the Pdf.
24 00:02:28.460 ⇒ 00:02:36.500 Uttam Kumaran: and then we could just hopefully have like, okay, we have, like another 10 or 15 to do. And then, just like cruise cruise through those.
25 00:02:37.650 ⇒ 00:02:41.339 Uttam Kumaran: So let me open the thing that you sent.
26 00:02:44.800 ⇒ 00:02:46.249 Uttam Kumaran: Where is that?
27 00:02:47.430 ⇒ 00:02:48.820 Uttam Kumaran: Sales?
28 00:02:53.590 ⇒ 00:02:54.330 Uttam Kumaran: Save it.
29 00:03:04.670 ⇒ 00:03:09.280 JARED PATTERSON: Like I I mean, I don’t know if you wanna I uploaded a bunch of like
30 00:03:09.340 ⇒ 00:03:10.840 JARED PATTERSON: the old ones. I just like
31 00:03:12.070 ⇒ 00:03:14.420 JARED PATTERSON: kind of redid them using
32 00:03:14.960 ⇒ 00:03:22.470 JARED PATTERSON: like I I don’t know. I think that this is kinda like it works for what I was thinking you’d wanna do. Obviously like you can fine tune it.
33 00:03:22.730 ⇒ 00:03:23.420 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
34 00:03:25.820 ⇒ 00:03:28.690 Uttam Kumaran: where? Where are the ones that you worked on.
35 00:03:29.500 ⇒ 00:03:32.279 JARED PATTERSON: I so the ones that I did.
36 00:03:32.510 ⇒ 00:03:34.579 JARED PATTERSON: I just put them on notion.
37 00:03:34.580 ⇒ 00:03:35.400 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Mike.
38 00:03:35.960 ⇒ 00:03:44.269 JARED PATTERSON: This, what is the zoom so sales under sales? And the case studies document. And then I just list like, there’s 3 new pages for each case.
39 00:03:44.270 ⇒ 00:03:45.020 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah.
40 00:03:45.200 ⇒ 00:03:46.010 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
41 00:03:47.150 ⇒ 00:03:48.500 JARED PATTERSON: But I don’t know.
42 00:03:50.720 ⇒ 00:04:01.159 JARED PATTERSON: like I wasn’t sure if this is kind of how you wanted you wanted each someone like paragraphs like, based on the website. I I figured that paragraphs are probably going to be like what you wanted to have on there.
43 00:04:01.540 ⇒ 00:04:02.210 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
44 00:04:03.250 ⇒ 00:04:05.192 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s see
45 00:04:07.680 ⇒ 00:04:09.570 JARED PATTERSON: I just kind of framed it in.
46 00:04:10.060 ⇒ 00:04:14.169 JARED PATTERSON: like, my idea was that okay, you’d have the website you’d have like
47 00:04:14.250 ⇒ 00:04:23.329 JARED PATTERSON: more of a condensed version of the case studies. But then you’d also have a Pdf version that you could like hand delivered to clients if they wanted to learn more about the case. Studies.
48 00:04:23.330 ⇒ 00:04:35.769 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly so. My hope is that everything can basically live like one of these things gets created. It’s like multiple different documents, right? So it’s a mix of like.
49 00:04:35.950 ⇒ 00:04:41.299 Uttam Kumaran: I think you’re right in that probably the largest length thing. And let me let me just
50 00:04:42.156 ⇒ 00:04:43.549 Uttam Kumaran: duplicate this.
51 00:04:44.760 ⇒ 00:04:46.579 Uttam Kumaran: and then let’s go to.
52 00:04:50.900 ⇒ 00:04:52.890 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s also bring this in.
53 00:05:12.980 ⇒ 00:05:14.220 Uttam Kumaran: Where did it go?
54 00:05:43.150 ⇒ 00:05:45.122 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I’m thinking, we have
55 00:05:46.880 ⇒ 00:05:47.840 Uttam Kumaran: we have
56 00:05:48.260 ⇒ 00:05:50.890 Uttam Kumaran: something that’s like this
57 00:05:51.830 ⇒ 00:05:53.990 Uttam Kumaran: and something that’s like
58 00:05:54.030 ⇒ 00:05:55.530 Uttam Kumaran: this, right?
59 00:05:56.820 ⇒ 00:05:57.430 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
60 00:05:59.040 ⇒ 00:06:01.099 Uttam Kumaran: So I think this is probably like.
61 00:06:01.880 ⇒ 00:06:06.000 Uttam Kumaran: well, actually, this is probably not great. It’s probably something like this. Yeah.
62 00:06:08.590 ⇒ 00:06:10.050 JARED PATTERSON: But for every.
63 00:06:12.000 ⇒ 00:06:23.723 Uttam Kumaran: So it would be like one service like, for example, if I was to talk about like, if let’s say we’re doing a case, study. Every case study gets a Pdf, and every case study gets a
64 00:06:24.300 ⇒ 00:06:25.560 Uttam Kumaran: page like this.
65 00:06:28.140 ⇒ 00:06:28.820 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
66 00:06:31.120 ⇒ 00:06:33.300 Uttam Kumaran: So ideally, I think
67 00:06:33.450 ⇒ 00:06:37.469 Uttam Kumaran: what we do is we basically take these transcripts, get this text
68 00:06:37.550 ⇒ 00:06:38.660 Uttam Kumaran: and then
69 00:06:39.040 ⇒ 00:06:41.989 Uttam Kumaran: take the same thing and get try to get this text?
70 00:06:42.563 ⇒ 00:06:51.400 Uttam Kumaran: Additionally, I don’t know if you were able to. Also in the prompt. If you were, did you use the content guideline stuff at all?
71 00:06:53.503 ⇒ 00:06:55.270 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah. I mean, I can.
72 00:06:55.480 ⇒ 00:07:00.040 Uttam Kumaran: It might be helpful to put that in, because that will also basically
73 00:07:00.060 ⇒ 00:07:01.627 Uttam Kumaran: guide how it
74 00:07:03.030 ⇒ 00:07:11.100 Uttam Kumaran: like, ha! The language that you basically uses, cause you know how it was like we’re talking to Ceos and that thing. So maybe that would be helpful, too.
75 00:07:11.950 ⇒ 00:07:16.600 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah. And where was that? Like I, my prompt, the prompt I use is on.
76 00:07:16.780 ⇒ 00:07:18.259 Uttam Kumaran: So notion right here, right.
77 00:07:18.460 ⇒ 00:07:23.871 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, you like, wanna re, it’s under the case settings, click cases. And it’s like that.
78 00:07:37.230 ⇒ 00:07:40.569 JARED PATTERSON: Cause this is the 1st like, I didn’t see this, I thought
79 00:07:41.130 ⇒ 00:07:43.210 JARED PATTERSON: all you basically wanted was
80 00:07:43.820 ⇒ 00:07:52.490 JARED PATTERSON: like, client overview challenge solution like, and then results and impact. Then I added, in the technologies deployed because if you wanted to include that in my paragraph.
81 00:07:52.490 ⇒ 00:07:56.980 Uttam Kumaran: That’s actually fine. I think this is fine, like again. I don’t wanna get to
82 00:07:57.840 ⇒ 00:08:05.450 Uttam Kumaran: I think we go with. I think we go with what I think. We go with this and this format. I’m going to need to change a little bit. But that’s fine.
83 00:08:06.250 ⇒ 00:08:07.309 JARED PATTERSON: Well, I would just
84 00:08:07.330 ⇒ 00:08:09.110 JARED PATTERSON: cause, I think, if you did
85 00:08:10.270 ⇒ 00:08:13.670 JARED PATTERSON: like realistically for each case study how many like
86 00:08:14.130 ⇒ 00:08:24.619 JARED PATTERSON: different? How much would it differ, for, like the our services stuff, you know, what I mean like is a lot of it, just like pretty redundant. In the last case, study. If they were to read that, or like.
87 00:08:25.854 ⇒ 00:08:26.735 Uttam Kumaran: I would say.
88 00:08:27.630 ⇒ 00:08:28.540 JARED PATTERSON: Is there.
89 00:08:28.900 ⇒ 00:08:33.959 Uttam Kumaran: So I think, like the things I’m gonna keep constant are like this, probably this bottom part.
90 00:08:34.270 ⇒ 00:08:36.539 Uttam Kumaran: and probably this.
91 00:08:37.280 ⇒ 00:08:40.849 Uttam Kumaran: or maybe change a title. But I don’t think this is the right
92 00:08:42.150 ⇒ 00:08:44.679 Uttam Kumaran: format. It’s gonna be something like.
93 00:08:45.420 ⇒ 00:08:49.520 Uttam Kumaran: it’ll be something like this where it’s like, here’s like the tools we use.
94 00:08:49.670 ⇒ 00:08:54.279 Uttam Kumaran: Here’s like some of the key things like. For example, if I look at this
95 00:08:56.760 ⇒ 00:09:00.059 Uttam Kumaran: let me even like let me even make this smaller. So
96 00:09:00.980 ⇒ 00:09:02.510 Uttam Kumaran: it would be something like
97 00:09:03.180 ⇒ 00:09:09.420 Uttam Kumaran: this is the client overview. We have the challenge here. The solution technologies
98 00:09:09.470 ⇒ 00:09:11.899 Uttam Kumaran: impact conclusion.
99 00:09:12.120 ⇒ 00:09:16.210 Uttam Kumaran: I honestly would probably merge the conclusion and results of impact.
100 00:09:16.630 ⇒ 00:09:17.280 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
101 00:09:17.520 ⇒ 00:09:18.560 Uttam Kumaran: And then
102 00:09:18.570 ⇒ 00:09:20.259 Uttam Kumaran: just have this piece of the bottom.
103 00:09:21.486 ⇒ 00:09:22.819 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s totally fine.
104 00:09:25.350 ⇒ 00:09:26.379 Uttam Kumaran: What do you think.
105 00:09:26.600 ⇒ 00:09:29.270 JARED PATTERSON: Well, yeah, I was more so like, I just don’t know
106 00:09:30.120 ⇒ 00:09:33.309 JARED PATTERSON: like there’s definitely a point where, like you’re if you
107 00:09:33.420 ⇒ 00:09:36.409 JARED PATTERSON: like the way you had it. I find that, like
108 00:09:37.470 ⇒ 00:09:42.600 JARED PATTERSON: you don’t want to make it too more like much more complex than it has to be. You know what I mean.
109 00:09:42.600 ⇒ 00:09:43.260 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
110 00:09:43.470 ⇒ 00:09:45.030 JARED PATTERSON: Especially if it’s not like
111 00:09:45.060 ⇒ 00:09:49.180 JARED PATTERSON: like, if it’s C-suite people that like we talked about, they don’t have the technical background.
112 00:09:49.180 ⇒ 00:09:49.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
113 00:09:51.300 ⇒ 00:09:57.979 JARED PATTERSON: I I don’t. I think you want to play it pretty like simplistic, but also like, find ways to work in
114 00:09:59.420 ⇒ 00:10:03.830 JARED PATTERSON: like the technology you guys use? Because obviously, like, if they’re like
115 00:10:04.160 ⇒ 00:10:12.370 JARED PATTERSON: the CC person like, Oh, like, we’re thinking of working with brain forwards and like, have someone else look at it like they just get like a second opinion from.
116 00:10:12.370 ⇒ 00:10:13.150 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
117 00:10:13.300 ⇒ 00:10:18.049 JARED PATTERSON: No background. At least there’s the stuff that could tie and be like. Oh, you know what this is actually, really relevant. We could use this.
118 00:10:18.050 ⇒ 00:10:18.710 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
119 00:10:18.960 ⇒ 00:10:22.087 Uttam Kumaran: So do you think like so are you saying that?
120 00:10:23.270 ⇒ 00:10:29.729 Uttam Kumaran: I guess. What? What do you? What do you? What should we change cause, my my only piece of feedback would be merge the conclusion and results.
121 00:10:29.860 ⇒ 00:10:32.849 Uttam Kumaran: I keep your prompt basically the same, because I think
122 00:10:33.280 ⇒ 00:10:35.050 Uttam Kumaran: it’s pretty good.
123 00:10:38.400 ⇒ 00:10:39.080 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
124 00:10:39.290 ⇒ 00:10:41.340 JARED PATTERSON: yeah, no. I think that’s a good idea.
125 00:10:42.020 ⇒ 00:10:44.529 JARED PATTERSON: I guess. Like, if you wanted to
126 00:10:45.650 ⇒ 00:10:47.780 JARED PATTERSON: like, have you read through the prompt at all?
127 00:10:47.780 ⇒ 00:10:48.130 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
128 00:10:49.440 ⇒ 00:10:51.750 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, cause I don’t know if there’s any other like.
129 00:10:52.620 ⇒ 00:11:07.090 JARED PATTERSON: basically, what I did is I I wrote one out how to like output some stuff, and then I use Chat Gbt to help reword my prompt based on what like I was looking for, and that’s how this. But like, if there’s words in there you don’t think need to be included because a lot of the time to like.
130 00:11:07.570 ⇒ 00:11:11.910 JARED PATTERSON: If you’re queue specific, it’ll start working those words into your output.
131 00:11:12.090 ⇒ 00:11:12.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
132 00:11:13.240 ⇒ 00:11:15.679 JARED PATTERSON: The way, like the the nature of.
133 00:11:16.620 ⇒ 00:11:17.805 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think
134 00:11:19.920 ⇒ 00:11:21.530 Uttam Kumaran: so I guess, like
135 00:11:22.110 ⇒ 00:11:28.459 Uttam Kumaran: alright. So let me think. I mean, what we could do is, let me do let me do what let me look do a pass right now.
136 00:11:28.590 ⇒ 00:11:30.869 Uttam Kumaran: and I think we just rip it because
137 00:11:31.600 ⇒ 00:11:35.810 Uttam Kumaran: I think we just try it for one of these we kind of like, let’s just go through it. Live.
138 00:11:36.030 ⇒ 00:11:38.700 Uttam Kumaran: see? If, like, we like what we’re seeing.
139 00:11:38.910 ⇒ 00:11:40.170 Uttam Kumaran: And then
140 00:11:40.520 ⇒ 00:11:41.500 Uttam Kumaran: I think
141 00:11:41.660 ⇒ 00:11:43.790 Uttam Kumaran: I think by the end of this call. We can like.
142 00:11:43.900 ⇒ 00:11:47.880 Uttam Kumaran: I think, ideally, I’ll we can also work on the format of this.
143 00:11:48.310 ⇒ 00:11:50.849 Uttam Kumaran: And then we get one done that way
144 00:11:51.630 ⇒ 00:11:55.310 Uttam Kumaran: that way, we basically are comfortable with the prompt comfortable with this format
145 00:11:55.350 ⇒ 00:12:01.819 Uttam Kumaran: can rip out 5 of these, and then I’m gonna set. I’m gonna send these to team and to like friends and basically be like.
146 00:12:02.260 ⇒ 00:12:03.410 Uttam Kumaran: what do you think?
147 00:12:03.530 ⇒ 00:12:09.280 Uttam Kumaran: Not? And not like engine, not like engineering friends. Besides, like business people are basically like, what do you think?
148 00:12:10.210 ⇒ 00:12:13.225 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay, so let’s like, let me go through.
149 00:12:15.000 ⇒ 00:12:17.709 Uttam Kumaran: let’s go through. Let me bring up notion on here.
150 00:12:32.580 ⇒ 00:12:35.859 Uttam Kumaran: So one is, let’s let me grab.
151 00:12:37.330 ⇒ 00:12:38.850 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna
152 00:12:40.750 ⇒ 00:12:43.700 Uttam Kumaran: just want to bring this into the sales area.
153 00:12:44.990 ⇒ 00:12:47.850 Uttam Kumaran: I can’t. I don’t know. Maybe I just have to copy paste it.
154 00:12:54.890 ⇒ 00:12:56.339 JARED PATTERSON: There should be no way.
155 00:13:02.350 ⇒ 00:13:05.539 Uttam Kumaran: I have to really switch back and forth. This sucks.
156 00:13:06.040 ⇒ 00:13:07.599 JARED PATTERSON: Then you you can.
157 00:13:11.150 ⇒ 00:13:14.090 Uttam Kumaran: I thought there was tabs here, but maybe not on a browser
158 00:13:17.230 ⇒ 00:13:19.370 Uttam Kumaran: like here, let me see.
159 00:13:20.030 ⇒ 00:13:21.290 JARED PATTERSON: I’m in the browser.
160 00:13:21.760 ⇒ 00:13:22.860 Uttam Kumaran: You have tabs.
161 00:13:23.630 ⇒ 00:13:25.060 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, what is that? Under, though?
162 00:13:25.870 ⇒ 00:13:28.470 Uttam Kumaran: It’s under Delta studio like it’s another one.
163 00:13:30.380 ⇒ 00:13:31.979 JARED PATTERSON: Now the only one.
164 00:13:35.670 ⇒ 00:13:39.220 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I can do it. I can do it if I’m here. Let’s see here.
165 00:13:42.110 ⇒ 00:13:43.050 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
166 00:13:48.774 ⇒ 00:13:54.350 Uttam Kumaran: cool. Alright. So I’m just gonna copy this as like content strategy.
167 00:14:53.860 ⇒ 00:14:58.760 Uttam Kumaran: So the 1st thing is, let’s take what we want from these docs and get in the prompt to.
168 00:14:59.320 ⇒ 00:15:00.740 Uttam Kumaran: especially when it’s like
169 00:15:00.890 ⇒ 00:15:05.359 Uttam Kumaran: who we’re talking to in the audience. I think that’ll help the AI a little bit
170 00:15:06.490 ⇒ 00:15:09.709 Uttam Kumaran: like some of this stuff is gonna help. Basically, it’s like
171 00:15:11.700 ⇒ 00:15:13.770 Uttam Kumaran: this case study piece, especially
172 00:15:14.310 ⇒ 00:15:17.009 Uttam Kumaran: subject problem solution results. Yeah.
173 00:15:23.390 ⇒ 00:15:27.880 Uttam Kumaran: like, honestly, even this, we can basically just put into the prompt.
174 00:15:28.310 ⇒ 00:15:28.940 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
175 00:15:31.555 ⇒ 00:15:33.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let me get the. Let me get the last one.
176 00:16:02.460 ⇒ 00:16:04.960 JARED PATTERSON: Was that in content, overview.
177 00:16:05.360 ⇒ 00:16:07.410 Uttam Kumaran: That is in content overview. Yeah.
178 00:16:35.180 ⇒ 00:16:36.260 Uttam Kumaran: okay, so
179 00:16:44.230 ⇒ 00:16:46.549 Uttam Kumaran: the other thing I’m gonna put in here.
180 00:17:09.220 ⇒ 00:17:12.999 JARED PATTERSON: Want me to. Are you copy and pasting in there? Then.
181 00:17:13.409 ⇒ 00:17:19.059 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, you can go ahead and add, you can go ahead of this. I’m gonna copy, paste a couple of things about brain forage to the top.
182 00:17:19.069 ⇒ 00:17:20.719 Uttam Kumaran: But keep going. Yeah.
183 00:20:01.410 ⇒ 00:20:05.200 Uttam Kumaran: So kind of also, what I’m thinking is like stuff like this.
184 00:20:05.640 ⇒ 00:20:12.880 Uttam Kumaran: we’re gonna use like an every prompt. So I’m kind of also thinking about like, how do we have like a database of like these kind of things?
185 00:20:13.040 ⇒ 00:20:18.009 Uttam Kumaran: You know what I mean, like, what is Brainforge. I want this to basically be in like every prompt and like, for.
186 00:20:18.010 ⇒ 00:20:20.770 JARED PATTERSON: I was like, I would. Just I would just like.
187 00:20:22.890 ⇒ 00:20:24.890 JARED PATTERSON: that’s kind of why, I was thinking, like.
188 00:20:28.230 ⇒ 00:20:30.360 JARED PATTERSON: just basically
189 00:20:30.820 ⇒ 00:20:33.549 JARED PATTERSON: like, queue it up in like the 1st part. Say.
190 00:20:34.530 ⇒ 00:20:37.040 JARED PATTERSON: I know. Actually, I know you can also
191 00:20:37.620 ⇒ 00:20:38.920 JARED PATTERSON: provide
192 00:20:39.110 ⇒ 00:20:42.050 JARED PATTERSON: the Gpt with like reading information.
193 00:20:42.480 ⇒ 00:20:49.510 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so we can put in like past, we can put in like services our service, Doc, and stuff like that in there.
194 00:20:49.940 ⇒ 00:20:51.939 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I I know, I think, like.
195 00:20:53.320 ⇒ 00:20:55.870 JARED PATTERSON: I don’t know. You probably have to just like, explain. Like.
196 00:20:56.550 ⇒ 00:20:58.719 JARED PATTERSON: we are a data consultant
197 00:20:58.740 ⇒ 00:21:00.720 JARED PATTERSON: boutique data consultancy.
198 00:21:02.230 ⇒ 00:21:07.279 JARED PATTERSON: this is bringing forge data consultancy. Blah, blah, blah is what Brainforge does. And then
199 00:21:07.630 ⇒ 00:21:09.429 JARED PATTERSON: kind of initiate the prompt of
200 00:21:09.980 ⇒ 00:21:12.739 JARED PATTERSON: yeah these studies. This is
201 00:21:14.088 ⇒ 00:21:17.369 JARED PATTERSON: we want you to build the case, studies off of.
202 00:21:19.020 ⇒ 00:21:24.980 Uttam Kumaran: It’s cause. It’s almost like, you know, cause the way I’m thinking about it is like we’re gonna have several of these prompts.
203 00:21:25.060 ⇒ 00:21:30.509 Uttam Kumaran: The case study piece will be unique to this case. Study Gpt, but this is gonna be like.
204 00:21:31.200 ⇒ 00:21:32.420 JARED PATTERSON: I see, I see, I see.
205 00:21:32.420 ⇒ 00:21:38.799 Uttam Kumaran: It’s gonna be like everywhere. So I think, for now it’s fine. But like what I wanna iterate like, consider this like.
206 00:21:39.210 ⇒ 00:21:49.490 Uttam Kumaran: consider this like an overall thing. Consider this Gpt specific, and then we’ll kind of iterate on this cause. Anytime we build a Gpt or even use like
207 00:21:49.860 ⇒ 00:21:53.919 Uttam Kumaran: like gum loop or something. I want to be able to basically use this
208 00:21:54.250 ⇒ 00:21:55.520 Uttam Kumaran: right? So
209 00:21:55.570 ⇒ 00:22:04.380 Uttam Kumaran: we can start here and then we’ll kind of create, maybe a database of prompts or something where that way, anytime, anyone’s use basic creating a prompt, they can leverage
210 00:22:04.560 ⇒ 00:22:06.442 Uttam Kumaran: like this script.
211 00:22:09.500 ⇒ 00:22:15.309 Uttam Kumaran: yeah. So this is perfect. So let me let’s walk through it. So provide you with the required transcript, basically compute using the provided
212 00:22:15.970 ⇒ 00:22:17.100 Uttam Kumaran: actually, so.
213 00:22:17.820 ⇒ 00:22:19.660 JARED PATTERSON: I would probably.
214 00:22:19.890 ⇒ 00:22:21.629 Uttam Kumaran: Should I put this down here.
215 00:22:22.210 ⇒ 00:22:25.419 JARED PATTERSON: But I would. I would like I would start that with like
216 00:22:31.940 ⇒ 00:22:39.050 JARED PATTERSON: like, I think you have to explain to it like why you’re talking about brain force, or it doesn’t think that brain force is the actual.
217 00:22:39.480 ⇒ 00:22:42.350 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So maybe I should do this.
218 00:22:44.810 ⇒ 00:22:46.770 Uttam Kumaran: So, okay.
219 00:23:41.530 ⇒ 00:23:42.150 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
220 00:23:49.060 ⇒ 00:23:53.029 Uttam Kumaran: Reference for for the, for the, for reference purpose of the case. Study simple.
221 00:23:55.090 ⇒ 00:23:58.311 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, this is like stuff I I just copied and pasted in.
222 00:23:58.580 ⇒ 00:23:59.790 Uttam Kumaran: Perfect. Perfect.
223 00:24:31.300 ⇒ 00:24:32.040 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
224 00:24:33.030 ⇒ 00:24:35.810 JARED PATTERSON: What I could do is I can just go.
225 00:24:37.450 ⇒ 00:24:38.690 JARED PATTERSON: Let me just.
226 00:24:45.480 ⇒ 00:24:48.103 JARED PATTERSON: I’ll fix our initial.
227 00:24:48.890 ⇒ 00:24:51.650 JARED PATTERSON: Then I’ll just go copy and paste that in for the prompt
228 00:24:54.290 ⇒ 00:24:55.470 JARED PATTERSON: that we want to
229 00:26:18.950 ⇒ 00:26:20.849 JARED PATTERSON: chat. Gbt. Working here.
230 00:26:26.960 ⇒ 00:26:27.750 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.
231 00:26:43.260 ⇒ 00:26:45.550 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s work on. I’m gonna work on one
232 00:26:45.600 ⇒ 00:26:48.260 Uttam Kumaran: for the service doc as well.
233 00:28:05.030 ⇒ 00:28:08.725 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So I’m gonna I’m gonna have it also create a prompt for
234 00:28:09.420 ⇒ 00:28:11.159 Uttam Kumaran: the services. Page.
235 00:28:15.060 ⇒ 00:28:15.610 JARED PATTERSON: Pat.
236 00:29:02.370 ⇒ 00:29:05.120 Uttam Kumaran: And what I’m gonna do is also give it.
237 00:29:05.742 ⇒ 00:29:10.649 Uttam Kumaran: give it the con, give it the other prompt, and basically be like, make a prop like this.
238 00:29:16.480 ⇒ 00:29:17.630 Uttam Kumaran: me
239 00:29:17.670 ⇒ 00:29:19.358 Uttam Kumaran: shit what I do when I do.
240 00:31:55.480 ⇒ 00:31:56.460 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
241 00:32:11.880 ⇒ 00:32:17.349 JARED PATTERSON: You have that recording anywhere. I just wanna preview see if this works.
242 00:32:18.180 ⇒ 00:32:18.745 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
243 00:32:23.920 ⇒ 00:32:25.159 Uttam Kumaran: let me
244 00:32:27.220 ⇒ 00:32:30.369 Uttam Kumaran: let me just copy this and put it somewhere.
245 00:32:30.650 ⇒ 00:32:36.110 Uttam Kumaran: So in notion, let’s like, get organized around some stuff. So
246 00:32:36.800 ⇒ 00:32:40.014 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna create a thing called
247 00:32:42.440 ⇒ 00:32:44.780 Uttam Kumaran: sales materials.
248 00:32:45.960 ⇒ 00:32:48.800 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m going to put case studies
249 00:32:49.250 ⇒ 00:32:51.999 Uttam Kumaran: and service offerings under there
250 00:32:52.610 ⇒ 00:32:53.900 Uttam Kumaran: and then
251 00:32:55.550 ⇒ 00:32:59.740 Uttam Kumaran: also gonna do so that’s their case studies over here.
252 00:33:12.410 ⇒ 00:33:14.500 Uttam Kumaran: What I’m gonna do here is
253 00:33:25.920 ⇒ 00:33:27.239 Uttam Kumaran: okay, let me share.
254 00:33:31.770 ⇒ 00:33:38.910 Uttam Kumaran: So what I’m gonna do is maybe create a database here. That’s just gonna be called sales
255 00:33:38.950 ⇒ 00:33:40.390 Uttam Kumaran: materials.
256 00:33:41.543 ⇒ 00:33:45.140 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna also have a type here
257 00:33:45.490 ⇒ 00:33:46.610 Uttam Kumaran: that’s app.
258 00:33:47.030 ⇒ 00:33:51.720 Uttam Kumaran: basically gonna be not called type, or actually yeah called type.
259 00:33:51.950 ⇒ 00:33:52.650 Uttam Kumaran: And then
260 00:33:52.970 ⇒ 00:33:55.660 Uttam Kumaran: it’s going to be a
261 00:33:57.140 ⇒ 00:33:58.470 Uttam Kumaran: select.
262 00:33:58.510 ⇒ 00:34:03.027 Uttam Kumaran: And there’s going to be options like case study
263 00:34:04.700 ⇒ 00:34:08.619 Uttam Kumaran: and service offering to start with
264 00:34:11.340 ⇒ 00:34:13.731 Uttam Kumaran: in this. I’m gonna put in
265 00:34:16.219 ⇒ 00:34:21.040 Uttam Kumaran: let’s just start with putting in the case studies that we have here.
266 00:34:21.159 ⇒ 00:34:23.450 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna do an in line.
267 00:34:24.080 ⇒ 00:34:26.519 Uttam Kumaran: or I’m gonna do a
268 00:34:26.880 ⇒ 00:34:29.480 Uttam Kumaran: database view
269 00:34:32.120 ⇒ 00:34:35.219 Uttam Kumaran: of the sales materials database.
270 00:34:35.630 ⇒ 00:34:39.249 Uttam Kumaran: and I’m gonna drag these guys into here.
271 00:34:40.219 ⇒ 00:34:44.299 Uttam Kumaran: Don’t know why it didn’t bring the title in. We’ll go do that
272 00:34:45.360 ⇒ 00:34:47.639 Uttam Kumaran: that even work.
273 00:34:48.909 ⇒ 00:34:49.820 Uttam Kumaran: Nope!
274 00:34:52.540 ⇒ 00:34:53.730 Uttam Kumaran: Let me do this.
275 00:34:54.389 ⇒ 00:34:56.489 JARED PATTERSON: And maybe because it.
276 00:34:58.190 ⇒ 00:35:00.919 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, maybe I gotta like copy it into here
277 00:35:14.560 ⇒ 00:35:16.030 Uttam Kumaran: is pretty annoying.
278 00:36:06.110 ⇒ 00:36:07.580 Uttam Kumaran: That’s there.
279 00:36:08.410 ⇒ 00:36:11.559 Uttam Kumaran: And then let’s go do one for
280 00:36:12.680 ⇒ 00:36:14.920 Uttam Kumaran: that service offerings.
281 00:36:16.054 ⇒ 00:36:19.870 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna go here. I’m going to create
282 00:36:20.990 ⇒ 00:36:22.580 Uttam Kumaran: see you
283 00:36:24.870 ⇒ 00:36:29.030 Uttam Kumaran: materials. And then in this one, I’m actually gonna add a
284 00:36:29.880 ⇒ 00:36:32.460 Uttam Kumaran: filter. The type
285 00:36:34.060 ⇒ 00:36:37.290 Uttam Kumaran: is case studies or not case studies service offerings.
286 00:36:38.100 ⇒ 00:36:42.025 Uttam Kumaran: And then let’s do one for
287 00:36:44.950 ⇒ 00:36:46.690 Uttam Kumaran: advertising.
288 00:36:50.770 ⇒ 00:36:52.960 Uttam Kumaran: and let’s do one for.
289 00:36:58.290 ⇒ 00:37:02.799 Uttam Kumaran: And then in here I’m gonna go paste this, which is
290 00:37:09.770 ⇒ 00:37:12.050 Uttam Kumaran: this one. I’m gonna go paste.
291 00:37:16.547 ⇒ 00:37:18.040 Uttam Kumaran: This is just.
292 00:37:34.310 ⇒ 00:37:36.770 Uttam Kumaran: And then I’m gonna go paste the other one.
293 00:37:38.900 ⇒ 00:37:41.160 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, did I just put the shipping one in there.
294 00:37:42.910 ⇒ 00:37:43.700 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah.
295 00:37:51.240 ⇒ 00:37:54.139 Uttam Kumaran: cool. Okay. You should have it. Now.
296 00:37:55.280 ⇒ 00:37:57.509 Uttam Kumaran: advertising one in here, too.
297 00:37:59.540 ⇒ 00:38:00.800 Uttam Kumaran: Right? Okay.
298 00:39:24.790 ⇒ 00:39:32.260 Uttam Kumaran: okay. I’m gonna work on while you’re playing around with that, I’m gonna work on the the Pdf format for the services.
299 00:39:33.100 ⇒ 00:39:34.979 JARED PATTERSON: So did you.
300 00:39:37.630 ⇒ 00:39:38.683 JARED PATTERSON: Is the
301 00:39:39.510 ⇒ 00:39:41.939 JARED PATTERSON: transcript that you had uploaded.
302 00:39:42.190 ⇒ 00:39:45.644 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, if you go into the service offering dots, you’ll see it here.
303 00:39:46.420 ⇒ 00:39:47.260 JARED PATTERSON: Okay.
304 00:39:49.200 ⇒ 00:39:50.440 JARED PATTERSON: so is that
305 00:39:52.430 ⇒ 00:39:55.140 JARED PATTERSON: that’s and that’s what you want to use for the case. Study.
306 00:39:55.380 ⇒ 00:39:58.179 Uttam Kumaran: I wanna do these for the service offerings.
307 00:39:58.600 ⇒ 00:39:59.020 JARED PATTERSON: Okay.
308 00:39:59.030 ⇒ 00:39:59.870 Uttam Kumaran: Some.
309 00:40:00.250 ⇒ 00:40:01.639 Uttam Kumaran: I guess, like.
310 00:40:03.840 ⇒ 00:40:08.410 Uttam Kumaran: actually, okay. So actually, let’s do, let’s do this one as a case study.
311 00:40:08.610 ⇒ 00:40:15.449 Uttam Kumaran: And this one is this one. I. This one’s more about like, it’s kind of way too wide ranging. This one’s actually about a specific problem.
312 00:40:16.770 ⇒ 00:40:19.440 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s just paste this in and see what it does.
313 00:40:20.200 ⇒ 00:40:20.980 Uttam Kumaran: Beth.
314 00:40:21.530 ⇒ 00:40:22.710 Uttam Kumaran: for the case. Study.
315 00:40:27.660 ⇒ 00:40:29.559 JARED PATTERSON: This, the phone is stand up
316 00:40:30.390 ⇒ 00:40:33.209 JARED PATTERSON: bottom that I forgot to do yesterday. So.
317 00:40:34.170 ⇒ 00:40:36.579 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, yeah, go ahead and do that.
318 00:40:39.910 ⇒ 00:40:41.720 Uttam Kumaran: And then I’m also coming.
319 00:45:41.570 ⇒ 00:45:43.359 JARED PATTERSON: And now what you think about
320 00:45:44.860 ⇒ 00:45:45.730 JARED PATTERSON: this.
321 00:46:40.810 ⇒ 00:46:42.160 Uttam Kumaran: Did you pay something somewhere.
322 00:46:42.730 ⇒ 00:46:44.759 JARED PATTERSON: Oh, yeah, I just put an internal sales.
323 00:46:44.760 ⇒ 00:46:45.630 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
324 00:46:46.690 ⇒ 00:46:50.090 JARED PATTERSON: I think I think this is kind of good. I.
325 00:47:04.960 ⇒ 00:47:08.799 Uttam Kumaran: This is great dude. I mean, I bet there’s a couple of things I’m gonna change. But
326 00:47:11.010 ⇒ 00:47:11.800 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.
327 00:47:12.670 ⇒ 00:47:13.610 Uttam Kumaran: nice.
328 00:47:16.890 ⇒ 00:47:19.950 Uttam Kumaran: Cause the the main thing I want to go for is like
329 00:47:20.150 ⇒ 00:47:22.690 Uttam Kumaran: we can get versions of these out.
330 00:47:23.080 ⇒ 00:47:26.100 Uttam Kumaran: and then I can like we can iterate from there right.
331 00:47:26.450 ⇒ 00:47:26.930 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
332 00:47:26.930 ⇒ 00:47:35.719 Uttam Kumaran: Like getting versions of mount and things we can tweak. It’s like getting it getting like 20 getting like 30, 40 through. It is like what I want to go for
333 00:47:36.160 ⇒ 00:47:40.760 Uttam Kumaran: because I wanna try to do like 10 of these in the next like week or so.
334 00:47:40.890 ⇒ 00:47:43.340 Uttam Kumaran: So, this is actually awesome.
335 00:47:44.530 ⇒ 00:47:51.030 JARED PATTERSON: And I didn’t like. I told it in the prompt itself, like I reiterated that it has to be
336 00:47:52.420 ⇒ 00:47:57.930 JARED PATTERSON: like, I think, cause it asked me like if there’s any like, how should the language be portrayed? And I just said, like
337 00:47:58.070 ⇒ 00:48:00.939 JARED PATTERSON: for people, that it should be professional
338 00:48:01.160 ⇒ 00:48:03.059 JARED PATTERSON: language, but not
339 00:48:03.090 ⇒ 00:48:04.540 JARED PATTERSON: extremely tactical.
340 00:48:05.880 ⇒ 00:48:07.770 JARED PATTERSON: which I think it did a decent job at.
341 00:48:08.370 ⇒ 00:48:11.669 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, if we go to like the let’s see.
342 00:48:44.800 ⇒ 00:48:47.883 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think I think you’re right in that. We need to.
343 00:48:48.910 ⇒ 00:48:50.640 Uttam Kumaran: basically talk about.
344 00:48:50.970 ⇒ 00:48:56.889 Uttam Kumaran: Give it something to be like your audience is this, I don’t know. I have like a succinct
345 00:48:58.180 ⇒ 00:48:59.280 Uttam Kumaran: like
346 00:49:00.210 ⇒ 00:49:03.109 Uttam Kumaran: like who we’re talking to.
347 00:49:03.470 ⇒ 00:49:06.720 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe that’s a good, that’s a thing to add is like
348 00:49:07.230 ⇒ 00:49:09.745 Uttam Kumaran: your audience, is this? And it’s not this.
349 00:49:11.200 ⇒ 00:49:15.300 Uttam Kumaran: But I mean, I think it’s pretty good for what we gave.
350 00:49:16.450 ⇒ 00:49:23.300 Uttam Kumaran: which is great. So let’s talk about like what we think the
351 00:49:23.390 ⇒ 00:49:25.070 Uttam Kumaran: thing should look like
352 00:49:26.750 ⇒ 00:49:28.000 Uttam Kumaran: so.
353 00:49:28.540 ⇒ 00:49:30.570 Uttam Kumaran: But go to here.
354 00:49:39.320 ⇒ 00:49:45.343 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m I don’t know why I don’t have like edit access. So I’m asking for that from the designer. But
355 00:49:45.940 ⇒ 00:49:48.579 Uttam Kumaran: like, how do you think this would be
356 00:49:49.250 ⇒ 00:49:51.854 Uttam Kumaran: like, okay, let me actually put this somewhere.
357 00:49:53.090 ⇒ 00:49:54.030 Uttam Kumaran: it’s Hank.
358 00:49:58.540 ⇒ 00:50:01.049 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna bring this into our sales
359 00:50:04.370 ⇒ 00:50:05.090 Uttam Kumaran: strategy.
360 00:50:35.280 ⇒ 00:50:38.160 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so this is kinda like what we’re looking at
361 00:50:40.410 ⇒ 00:50:43.530 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s see if we’re just to think about like
362 00:50:43.890 ⇒ 00:50:46.109 Uttam Kumaran: what we would want to change here
363 00:50:46.330 ⇒ 00:50:48.999 Uttam Kumaran: and let me like try to get a bigger
364 00:50:59.820 ⇒ 00:51:03.449 Uttam Kumaran: How do you? So we probably don’t want this thing right.
365 00:51:06.740 ⇒ 00:51:10.479 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I mean, if you’re doing this for each case study, you want it to be.
366 00:51:17.760 ⇒ 00:51:20.480 Uttam Kumaran: And like this thing should be.
367 00:51:35.980 ⇒ 00:51:37.369 JARED PATTERSON: This is for.
368 00:51:37.800 ⇒ 00:51:43.779 JARED PATTERSON: okay, so this. So you’re gonna have 2 pages for case study, or is it is one, for, like his left side
369 00:51:44.030 ⇒ 00:51:44.700 JARED PATTERSON: left side.
370 00:51:44.700 ⇒ 00:51:47.620 Uttam Kumaran: This Pdf, right side is the site.
371 00:51:47.970 ⇒ 00:51:48.580 JARED PATTERSON: Okay.
372 00:51:50.590 ⇒ 00:51:54.510 Uttam Kumaran: So basically out of that one document, we’re gonna get 2 assets.
373 00:51:55.280 ⇒ 00:51:56.000 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, yeah.
374 00:51:56.230 ⇒ 00:52:01.900 Uttam Kumaran: Every, every every service is gonna link to a case study. Every case is gonna link to a service.
375 00:52:03.490 ⇒ 00:52:04.799 Uttam Kumaran: Can I see what I mean.
376 00:52:06.740 ⇒ 00:52:10.250 Uttam Kumaran: so like right down here, these will be like services.
377 00:52:10.290 ⇒ 00:52:11.579 Uttam Kumaran: So be able to click.
378 00:52:11.740 ⇒ 00:52:15.539 Uttam Kumaran: And then, basically, you’ll see these. And similarly.
379 00:52:16.050 ⇒ 00:52:19.580 Uttam Kumaran: at every case study, you’ll be able to go to the services page.
380 00:52:20.230 ⇒ 00:52:21.650 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m thinking, like.
381 00:52:21.720 ⇒ 00:52:27.100 Uttam Kumaran: this is like case study title. I don’t know if I can make this smaller this way.
382 00:52:30.530 ⇒ 00:52:33.770 Uttam Kumaran: So we do. We do have the case. Study title here.
383 00:52:35.780 ⇒ 00:52:37.600 Uttam Kumaran: let me bring in
384 00:52:37.660 ⇒ 00:52:42.510 Uttam Kumaran: the stuff that you had from notion. Actually. So we can just see it all side by side.
385 00:52:49.220 ⇒ 00:52:51.200 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, you sent in sales.
386 00:52:52.750 ⇒ 00:52:53.550 Uttam Kumaran: Pretty cool.
387 00:53:20.020 ⇒ 00:53:22.889 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So we have a client overview.
388 00:53:38.570 ⇒ 00:53:43.020 JARED PATTERSON: You. Basically, you have your 4 main points that you’re looking to
389 00:53:43.580 ⇒ 00:53:44.610 JARED PATTERSON: address.
390 00:53:44.830 ⇒ 00:53:48.019 Uttam Kumaran: Do you think like we should put everything in one of these boxes.
391 00:53:51.790 ⇒ 00:53:55.779 JARED PATTERSON: The only I’d like organize it that way is because, like
392 00:53:56.120 ⇒ 00:54:01.540 JARED PATTERSON: on the website side, it had like the 3. So I was saying, like, obviously to like.
393 00:54:01.770 ⇒ 00:54:02.580 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
394 00:54:03.030 ⇒ 00:54:08.730 JARED PATTERSON: Client overview. And then you’re you have the problem solution. And then
395 00:54:09.390 ⇒ 00:54:13.780 JARED PATTERSON: your results, like the technologies deployed, was just included because I thought it was like.
396 00:54:13.910 ⇒ 00:54:14.720 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
397 00:54:15.070 ⇒ 00:54:16.919 JARED PATTERSON: Relevant to have on there
398 00:54:24.310 ⇒ 00:54:26.240 JARED PATTERSON: kind of like that
399 00:54:27.550 ⇒ 00:54:32.469 JARED PATTERSON: like sale, the content strategy document outline like you want to have.
400 00:54:35.240 ⇒ 00:54:37.850 JARED PATTERSON: You definitely want to have those 3
401 00:54:38.130 ⇒ 00:54:40.659 JARED PATTERSON: included on everything, because
402 00:54:41.380 ⇒ 00:54:44.670 JARED PATTERSON: it’s the easiest way, or it’s the best format of a case. Study.
403 00:54:45.190 ⇒ 00:54:48.659 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So maybe we put like, but I guess visually.
404 00:54:48.890 ⇒ 00:54:50.489 Uttam Kumaran: do you think we should like
405 00:54:51.630 ⇒ 00:54:53.769 Uttam Kumaran: on this Pdf side?
406 00:54:53.780 ⇒ 00:54:56.600 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe it’s best to like, we combine these
407 00:54:56.620 ⇒ 00:54:58.350 Uttam Kumaran: into 3 squares.
408 00:54:59.470 ⇒ 00:55:02.190 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I copied and there was
409 00:55:02.460 ⇒ 00:55:03.689 JARED PATTERSON: one of the
410 00:55:05.030 ⇒ 00:55:07.090 JARED PATTERSON: like. Every time I find that you can
411 00:55:08.790 ⇒ 00:55:13.690 JARED PATTERSON: kind of outline the process of the way it would work makes a lot of sense to me.
412 00:55:14.090 ⇒ 00:55:14.750 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
413 00:55:15.770 ⇒ 00:55:16.500 JARED PATTERSON: Like.
414 00:55:18.280 ⇒ 00:55:24.699 JARED PATTERSON: just like you want the flow of the website to like, you want to go from step one step, 2 step. So like, okay.
415 00:55:24.870 ⇒ 00:55:30.710 JARED PATTERSON: this is the problem that they had. This was the solution that we came up with. And these are the final results.
416 00:55:31.150 ⇒ 00:55:31.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
417 00:55:32.100 ⇒ 00:55:32.940 JARED PATTERSON: Wise.
418 00:55:34.350 ⇒ 00:55:37.070 JARED PATTERSON: and I guess, just by the nature of like, how you
419 00:55:37.270 ⇒ 00:55:47.379 JARED PATTERSON: throw them on the Pdf. It’ll be like, be easier to read and like you’ll flow through it. But I think, like, yeah, like having the 3 step process. I guess it really depends on like
420 00:55:47.950 ⇒ 00:55:51.749 JARED PATTERSON: how you want people to perceive how the process works. You know.
421 00:55:52.300 ⇒ 00:55:57.569 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, let’s let’s look at a couple together, and maybe we can think about if we wanna
422 00:55:58.030 ⇒ 00:56:00.550 Uttam Kumaran: steal any like examples.
423 00:56:03.550 ⇒ 00:56:06.520 JARED PATTERSON: It’s like, I don’t think it’s as easy for you guys
424 00:56:07.650 ⇒ 00:56:10.270 JARED PATTERSON: to say that like, it’s a 3 step process.
425 00:56:11.010 ⇒ 00:56:12.100 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
426 00:56:12.770 ⇒ 00:56:15.359 Uttam Kumaran: But again, it’s like, yeah, I agree.
427 00:56:15.870 ⇒ 00:56:19.890 JARED PATTERSON: But at the same time, like it is 3 main pillars, is.
428 00:56:20.430 ⇒ 00:56:23.010 JARED PATTERSON: there’s a problem. We come up with a solution.
429 00:56:23.250 ⇒ 00:56:25.620 JARED PATTERSON: Then the results, the impact. And then
430 00:56:27.240 ⇒ 00:56:28.989 JARED PATTERSON: there’s a little bit of
431 00:56:29.290 ⇒ 00:56:31.959 JARED PATTERSON: other stuff that goes on between those obviously. But.
432 00:56:32.190 ⇒ 00:56:32.940 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
433 00:56:34.530 ⇒ 00:56:37.320 Uttam Kumaran: like in this example. Okay, they have a clear title
434 00:56:39.550 ⇒ 00:56:41.010 Uttam Kumaran: key metrics.
435 00:56:43.750 ⇒ 00:56:44.760 Uttam Kumaran: which, like.
436 00:56:45.030 ⇒ 00:56:48.820 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know these. It’s like, kind of a lot to read all this shit really like.
437 00:56:49.615 ⇒ 00:56:50.440 JARED PATTERSON: Not configure it
438 00:56:50.730 ⇒ 00:56:52.730 JARED PATTERSON: that any of that.
439 00:56:54.250 ⇒ 00:56:59.590 Uttam Kumaran: And I guess these are like high numbers and low, like, I just, I think this is a lot of text frankly.
440 00:56:59.630 ⇒ 00:57:03.270 Uttam Kumaran: and this yellow and black is kind of ugly, although that’s probably there
441 00:57:03.760 ⇒ 00:57:05.979 Uttam Kumaran: design language
442 00:57:06.400 ⇒ 00:57:09.539 Uttam Kumaran: they have about them which I actually don’t.
443 00:57:11.260 ⇒ 00:57:13.129 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, this about the client. Okay.
444 00:57:13.200 ⇒ 00:57:14.810 Uttam Kumaran: this is the challenge.
445 00:57:15.320 ⇒ 00:57:18.189 Uttam Kumaran: Tons of tax way. Too much tax right?
446 00:57:22.040 ⇒ 00:57:24.569 JARED PATTERSON: It’s also like nobody’s really gonna read all this.
447 00:57:25.170 ⇒ 00:57:26.790 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay, Max.
448 00:57:27.000 ⇒ 00:57:28.299 Uttam Kumaran: let’s look at these.
449 00:57:29.100 ⇒ 00:57:31.169 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, how healthy so
450 00:57:31.650 ⇒ 00:57:34.960 Uttam Kumaran: decreases their load time with nostra.
451 00:57:37.140 ⇒ 00:57:40.210 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, this is fast. Looks fast.
452 00:57:40.240 ⇒ 00:57:42.260 Uttam Kumaran: clearly, know these things.
453 00:57:42.940 ⇒ 00:57:46.000 Uttam Kumaran: This is great, and this is great. I like this thing.
454 00:57:46.000 ⇒ 00:57:46.560 JARED PATTERSON: No.
455 00:57:49.200 ⇒ 00:57:53.010 Uttam Kumaran: About the challenge, the solution results.
456 00:57:53.020 ⇒ 00:57:55.949 Uttam Kumaran: Yo, that’s exactly it.
457 00:57:56.500 ⇒ 00:58:00.289 Uttam Kumaran: So looks like, basically they’re like, here’s what it is.
458 00:58:01.170 ⇒ 00:58:02.839 Uttam Kumaran: They have a slow site
459 00:58:05.890 ⇒ 00:58:08.410 Uttam Kumaran: implementation took less than 30 min.
460 00:58:08.700 ⇒ 00:58:10.190 Uttam Kumaran: The couple tweaks
461 00:58:11.030 ⇒ 00:58:14.879 Uttam Kumaran: didn’t go too into like technical. But basically it was like it works.
462 00:58:15.510 ⇒ 00:58:19.639 Uttam Kumaran: And they they have some links to like some of their stuff. Right?
463 00:58:20.030 ⇒ 00:58:20.700 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
464 00:58:22.300 ⇒ 00:58:26.970 JARED PATTERSON: I actually, I was, gonna say, I think, and I know it’s on
465 00:58:28.790 ⇒ 00:58:31.779 JARED PATTERSON: like the the website for us, the
466 00:58:32.300 ⇒ 00:58:34.390 JARED PATTERSON: like I always love.
467 00:58:35.290 ⇒ 00:58:41.539 JARED PATTERSON: and it’s just your marketing. But like when you include a quote from like a happy client.
468 00:58:42.440 ⇒ 00:58:46.868 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s the thing like I’ll I’ll iterate and go get those quotes.
469 00:58:47.550 ⇒ 00:58:48.250 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
470 00:58:48.250 ⇒ 00:58:59.789 Uttam Kumaran: Because if I if I run, if I have to get the quote now, these guys are, gonna ask me to run this by them and it’s gonna it’s gonna take a while. So you’re right, like, I think the couple of improvements like quotes
471 00:58:59.890 ⇒ 00:59:00.930 Uttam Kumaran: links.
472 00:59:02.500 ⇒ 00:59:05.080 JARED PATTERSON: I guess that’s also like that, that’s all.
473 00:59:05.150 ⇒ 00:59:07.139 JARED PATTERSON: Get me added in the future type thing.
474 00:59:07.140 ⇒ 00:59:13.339 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, once we have like a base for each of these, basically, we could just continue to iterate.
475 00:59:14.920 ⇒ 00:59:19.350 Uttam Kumaran: And this is all great. I mean, th, their site is nice. And having this is actually so nice.
476 00:59:20.240 ⇒ 00:59:20.920 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
477 00:59:23.010 ⇒ 00:59:25.940 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let’s look at another one. So this is nostra.
478 00:59:27.400 ⇒ 00:59:29.770 Uttam Kumaran: And let’s look at drive point. Okay.
479 00:59:32.010 ⇒ 00:59:40.099 Uttam Kumaran: how geologi, do we know any of these companies how geogy increase their Ebitda margin by 18
480 00:59:42.640 ⇒ 00:59:43.780 Uttam Kumaran: very similar
481 00:59:43.990 ⇒ 00:59:45.170 Uttam Kumaran: challenge
482 00:59:46.470 ⇒ 00:59:48.459 Uttam Kumaran: raising capital is tricky.
483 00:59:50.540 ⇒ 00:59:53.200 Uttam Kumaran: They need financial solution.
484 00:59:54.110 ⇒ 00:59:55.999 Uttam Kumaran: Here’s what they found.
485 00:59:56.920 ⇒ 00:59:58.229 Uttam Kumaran: This is nice, too.
486 00:59:58.950 ⇒ 00:59:59.650 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
487 00:59:59.650 ⇒ 01:00:00.550 Uttam Kumaran: The results.
488 01:00:02.270 ⇒ 01:00:03.790 JARED PATTERSON: I like.
489 01:00:03.830 ⇒ 01:00:11.600 JARED PATTERSON: I don’t know if you want like listed items in yours. But I’d like specifically told Chachi team not to do that just because I figured
490 01:00:12.430 ⇒ 01:00:16.819 JARED PATTERSON: like you want to just have like a short little paragraph for each thing.
491 01:00:16.890 ⇒ 01:00:18.549 JARED PATTERSON: I don’t know if you.
492 01:00:19.050 ⇒ 01:00:20.978 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I, yeah, I.
493 01:00:24.360 ⇒ 01:00:31.600 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I I think we should go for short paragraph. But I’ll get feedback on that like, maybe if we do have like for these guys. They have like.
494 01:00:31.760 ⇒ 01:00:33.910 Uttam Kumaran: really like specific data.
495 01:00:34.550 ⇒ 01:00:37.489 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s nice cause, like, I’m honestly not gonna read this.
496 01:00:37.640 ⇒ 01:00:41.119 Uttam Kumaran: I went straight to reading this, so I already can tell me
497 01:00:41.740 ⇒ 01:00:43.830 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna look straight at this.
498 01:00:44.180 ⇒ 01:00:45.560 Uttam Kumaran: So that was nice.
499 01:00:45.850 ⇒ 01:00:46.950 Uttam Kumaran: But
500 01:00:48.660 ⇒ 01:00:51.410 Uttam Kumaran: I think this is like very text-heavy.
501 01:00:51.520 ⇒ 01:00:53.715 Uttam Kumaran: The thing is, they don’t have a great
502 01:00:54.260 ⇒ 01:00:56.089 Uttam Kumaran: They don’t have a great visual.
503 01:00:56.890 ⇒ 01:00:58.390 Uttam Kumaran: This is okay.
504 01:00:59.150 ⇒ 01:01:01.470 Uttam Kumaran: And this quote was nice. But
505 01:01:03.430 ⇒ 01:01:07.339 Uttam Kumaran: I I still, for some reason I’m drawn to this one.
506 01:01:08.854 ⇒ 01:01:12.869 Uttam Kumaran: The quotes were nice, or like something about this was nice.
507 01:01:13.230 ⇒ 01:01:15.709 JARED PATTERSON: There wasn’t too much text. It was like.
508 01:01:16.370 ⇒ 01:01:20.616 JARED PATTERSON: I don’t know. It’s very like simplistic. I think it, that that’s the most
509 01:01:21.520 ⇒ 01:01:25.773 JARED PATTERSON: like similar to what I think you’re trying to go for, just based on what the website would.
510 01:01:26.010 ⇒ 01:01:30.238 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, let’s let’s look at like another. Let’s look at like another one of theirs.
511 01:01:32.620 ⇒ 01:01:34.230 Uttam Kumaran: case studies
512 01:01:43.850 ⇒ 01:01:46.040 Uttam Kumaran: like just this
513 01:01:46.140 ⇒ 01:01:48.424 Uttam Kumaran: gives you everything you need to know right.
514 01:01:50.070 ⇒ 01:01:50.650 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
515 01:01:50.980 ⇒ 01:01:52.089 Uttam Kumaran: Which is like
516 01:01:52.150 ⇒ 01:01:56.210 Uttam Kumaran: cool increase. Cvr. Which is like some sort of conversion rate.
517 01:01:56.370 ⇒ 01:01:57.690 Uttam Kumaran: something
518 01:01:58.940 ⇒ 01:02:00.440 Uttam Kumaran: something about
519 01:02:00.870 ⇒ 01:02:05.079 Uttam Kumaran: I I assume this is like some sort of speed up your site type platform.
520 01:02:05.460 ⇒ 01:02:06.040 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
521 01:02:06.350 ⇒ 01:02:09.270 Uttam Kumaran: And basically gives you like a
522 01:02:09.530 ⇒ 01:02:11.279 Uttam Kumaran: cool. It’s a fashion company.
523 01:02:12.070 ⇒ 01:02:13.770 Uttam Kumaran: Great. I get it.
524 01:02:13.900 ⇒ 01:02:15.740 Uttam Kumaran: Then you go into it. You’re like
525 01:02:16.430 ⇒ 01:02:18.500 Uttam Kumaran: you got quote from Chrissy.
526 01:02:18.800 ⇒ 01:02:20.279 Uttam Kumaran: you get the about.
527 01:02:20.680 ⇒ 01:02:23.159 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like fashion, something.
528 01:02:24.050 ⇒ 01:02:27.559 Uttam Kumaran: They have the challenge. They have a header, and they have
529 01:02:27.720 ⇒ 01:02:28.690 Uttam Kumaran: this.
530 01:02:30.490 ⇒ 01:02:33.859 Uttam Kumaran: So there’s something for everybody which is like they have some bolding.
531 01:02:35.310 ⇒ 01:02:36.590 Uttam Kumaran: and they have, like
532 01:02:36.750 ⇒ 01:02:40.410 Uttam Kumaran: some examples of like what they did, and then great results.
533 01:02:41.090 ⇒ 01:02:41.790 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
534 01:02:42.020 ⇒ 01:02:45.049 JARED PATTERSON: I guess if there is metrics that you can include like.
535 01:02:45.200 ⇒ 01:02:47.280 Uttam Kumaran: I can. There’s some I can include, yeah.
536 01:02:52.030 ⇒ 01:02:53.579 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I like that.
537 01:02:54.600 ⇒ 01:02:56.860 Uttam Kumaran: So, looking at this
538 01:02:57.990 ⇒ 01:02:59.610 Uttam Kumaran: and looking at our.
539 01:03:03.870 ⇒ 01:03:07.760 Uttam Kumaran: the the thing is, none of these guys have it in like a Pdf format.
540 01:03:09.280 ⇒ 01:03:10.350 Uttam Kumaran: Right?
541 01:03:11.750 ⇒ 01:03:13.160 Uttam Kumaran: So I wonder like.
542 01:03:13.800 ⇒ 01:03:15.730 JARED PATTERSON: That’s why I don’t know. Like.
543 01:03:16.320 ⇒ 01:03:17.549 Uttam Kumaran: How they translate.
544 01:03:18.900 ⇒ 01:03:19.600 JARED PATTERSON: I just
545 01:03:21.750 ⇒ 01:03:26.220 JARED PATTERSON: so tell me again, based on the figma, and you could just point at it. Where is the
546 01:03:26.660 ⇒ 01:03:29.469 JARED PATTERSON: like? How do you get to the Pdf from the website type thing.
547 01:03:29.970 ⇒ 01:03:33.330 Uttam Kumaran: So the Pdf ideally is gonna be here.
548 01:03:35.240 ⇒ 01:03:38.359 Uttam Kumaran: But also, for for example, sometimes I’m like.
549 01:03:38.530 ⇒ 01:03:42.039 Uttam Kumaran: sometimes I’m gonna be emailing this to people.
550 01:03:42.190 ⇒ 01:03:44.170 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s easier to email
551 01:03:44.230 ⇒ 01:03:45.930 Uttam Kumaran: like a case study.
552 01:03:47.050 ⇒ 01:03:54.179 Uttam Kumaran: But also like, I don’t know if I’m over complicating, we could just dift the Pdf for now and just start with like building the site up.
553 01:03:55.050 ⇒ 01:03:57.379 JARED PATTERSON: I don’t know. Seems like there’s no
554 01:04:00.190 ⇒ 01:04:04.719 JARED PATTERSON: like. The Pdf. Won’t be too difficult to create. Just to have like you said to email people.
555 01:04:05.170 ⇒ 01:04:07.979 JARED PATTERSON: I just think, based on what we just looked at
556 01:04:08.250 ⇒ 01:04:12.841 JARED PATTERSON: most people. I’ve just like dialed in their site so much that, like every.
557 01:04:13.170 ⇒ 01:04:13.889 Uttam Kumaran: Need it.
558 01:04:15.520 ⇒ 01:04:18.389 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so let’s let me let me take.
559 01:04:18.920 ⇒ 01:04:20.979 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna just copy
560 01:04:21.560 ⇒ 01:04:22.600 Uttam Kumaran: this.
561 01:04:23.880 ⇒ 01:04:25.080 Uttam Kumaran: and I’m just gonna
562 01:04:25.900 ⇒ 01:04:27.919 Uttam Kumaran: alright. Let’s just do this for now.
563 01:04:28.800 ⇒ 01:04:34.959 Uttam Kumaran: I basically wanna like, hand this over to some to the designer to basically help me with this.
564 01:04:35.390 ⇒ 01:04:37.009 Uttam Kumaran: So I kind of want like
565 01:04:38.010 ⇒ 01:04:40.629 Uttam Kumaran: someone like this, which we’re close.
566 01:04:42.300 ⇒ 01:04:45.509 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, no, I think. And I I like the way yours looks
567 01:04:45.640 ⇒ 01:04:46.330 JARED PATTERSON: like. If you were.
568 01:04:46.560 ⇒ 01:04:46.790 Uttam Kumaran: School.
569 01:04:46.790 ⇒ 01:04:48.260 JARED PATTERSON: That I like that.
570 01:04:49.030 ⇒ 01:04:50.739 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, you you do like it.
571 01:04:51.350 ⇒ 01:04:57.150 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I just think the one, the one thing just based off of like. And I studied this like.
572 01:04:57.190 ⇒ 01:04:59.699 JARED PATTERSON: not in school, but like we look at.
573 01:04:59.970 ⇒ 01:05:00.700 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, amazing.
574 01:05:00.700 ⇒ 01:05:02.230 JARED PATTERSON: Lies things, I think.
575 01:05:04.670 ⇒ 01:05:09.169 JARED PATTERSON: like most ones we just looked at. They’re all top to bottom challenge
576 01:05:09.807 ⇒ 01:05:21.560 JARED PATTERSON: like problem solution results. Right? Like the challenge, the solution, the results, whereas yours is gonna go side to side, which is not a big deal as long as like it’s just very clear like how you want it to be read, you know.
577 01:05:22.110 ⇒ 01:05:26.760 Uttam Kumaran: So on. So on. This one, for example, we should change this to be like challenge.
578 01:05:29.180 ⇒ 01:05:29.810 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
579 01:05:31.840 ⇒ 01:05:33.640 Uttam Kumaran: And just list out the challenges.
580 01:05:34.760 ⇒ 01:05:38.539 Uttam Kumaran: I actually, yeah, okay, I I mean, I kinda like, yeah, I like it, too.
581 01:05:38.540 ⇒ 01:05:41.049 JARED PATTERSON: Or or just like challenge.
582 01:05:41.800 ⇒ 01:05:44.269 JARED PATTERSON: like you could still do it side to side.
583 01:05:44.330 ⇒ 01:05:45.639 JARED PATTERSON: I just mean like.
584 01:05:45.640 ⇒ 01:05:47.110 Uttam Kumaran: What do you mean? Side to side.
585 01:05:47.510 ⇒ 01:05:50.170 JARED PATTERSON: Like cause. Okay, after you can see my mouse right?
586 01:05:50.170 ⇒ 01:05:50.545 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
587 01:05:51.410 ⇒ 01:05:55.780 JARED PATTERSON: Like are you having like in my eyes? You had, it was, gonna be like.
588 01:05:55.830 ⇒ 01:06:01.900 JARED PATTERSON: Okay, this is where the challenge is spoken about. This is where the solution was talked about, and this.
589 01:06:03.260 ⇒ 01:06:06.358 JARED PATTERSON: Zalter like, how did you plan on figuring doing that, or.
590 01:06:06.640 ⇒ 01:06:09.809 Uttam Kumaran: What did you? What did you think was gonna be in this next piece? Here.
591 01:06:10.900 ⇒ 01:06:13.679 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I guess I didn’t know. So you wanna do.
592 01:06:13.890 ⇒ 01:06:14.520 JARED PATTERSON: I was.
593 01:06:14.520 ⇒ 01:06:18.100 Uttam Kumaran: Challenge solution and results.
594 01:06:18.100 ⇒ 01:06:21.719 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, yeah, no. I like that. And that was just that was just a mystery by me. Then.
595 01:06:21.720 ⇒ 01:06:28.320 Uttam Kumaran: Boco. No, no, no, I mean, it’s this is all like fake tech. So it didn’t make sense. So I’m thinking we’d like we do challenges here.
596 01:06:28.380 ⇒ 01:06:29.570 Uttam Kumaran: And then
597 01:06:30.440 ⇒ 01:06:35.405 Uttam Kumaran: again, it’s nice, because we can basically see, this piece can be like this
598 01:06:36.020 ⇒ 01:06:37.409 Uttam Kumaran: or something like that.
599 01:06:39.160 ⇒ 01:06:41.520 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m gonna just copy
600 01:06:46.640 ⇒ 01:06:48.760 Uttam Kumaran: like this example here.
601 01:07:06.410 ⇒ 01:07:12.630 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, and frankly, the results piece, I want it to be like M. Super big like. And then
602 01:07:14.400 ⇒ 01:07:15.890 Uttam Kumaran: basically this
603 01:07:15.970 ⇒ 01:07:18.639 Uttam Kumaran: I may get rid of, and then
604 01:07:19.400 ⇒ 01:07:22.059 Uttam Kumaran: I want everything to be like book a demo.
605 01:07:22.565 ⇒ 01:07:29.814 Uttam Kumaran: something like that. So I may change this to book a demo and then keep. This is, this exists on every page. But
606 01:07:35.380 ⇒ 01:07:36.820 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, okay, cool.
607 01:07:48.530 ⇒ 01:07:49.680 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Great.
608 01:07:50.900 ⇒ 01:07:53.109 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, this makes a lot more sense. Actually.
609 01:07:54.450 ⇒ 01:07:57.419 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s do that. Let’s just go with the
610 01:07:58.000 ⇒ 01:08:00.080 Uttam Kumaran: working on the site pages.
611 01:08:02.220 ⇒ 01:08:07.959 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, integrate the sorry to cut you up so you could integrate the technology deployed into
612 01:08:08.210 ⇒ 01:08:10.059 JARED PATTERSON: the solution. If you want.
613 01:08:10.250 ⇒ 01:08:11.010 Uttam Kumaran: Here.
614 01:08:11.740 ⇒ 01:08:13.827 Uttam Kumaran: or or like oh.
615 01:08:14.350 ⇒ 01:08:15.429 JARED PATTERSON: I don’t know where, like.
616 01:08:15.490 ⇒ 01:08:21.809 JARED PATTERSON: where you’d envision putting that because it’s like, unless it’s already kind of included in there in the case studies I can’t really remember.
617 01:08:21.819 ⇒ 01:08:26.079 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I mean, the thing is like, none of these guys have it here. But
618 01:08:26.339 ⇒ 01:08:30.009 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, let’s look at let’s I’ll pull up like another.
619 01:08:31.200 ⇒ 01:08:33.799 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, seems like those ones really took like.
620 01:08:34.370 ⇒ 01:08:36.990 JARED PATTERSON: think about who you’re speaking to to
621 01:08:37.859 ⇒ 01:08:42.659 JARED PATTERSON: like the not the extreme, but like they did a good job of not being too technical, which is huge.
622 01:08:43.260 ⇒ 01:08:46.710 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so here’s an example of like, Ph, data is like
623 01:08:47.180 ⇒ 01:08:54.220 Uttam Kumaran: the best version of like what we do. Basically, these guys are like, they make like a butt load of money, doing exactly the same stuff we do.
624 01:08:54.680 ⇒ 01:08:58.199 Uttam Kumaran: So here’s an example of like one of their services. Pages
625 01:09:00.890 ⇒ 01:09:04.090 Uttam Kumaran: supply chain forecasting on Snowflake.
626 01:09:04.670 ⇒ 01:09:06.579 Uttam Kumaran: What outcomes do we deliver?
627 01:09:06.920 ⇒ 01:09:09.659 Uttam Kumaran: What can we expect? How much does this cost
628 01:09:10.950 ⇒ 01:09:18.049 Uttam Kumaran: get started? And then get more information? Okay, that doesn’t do anything. But these aren’t really case studies.
629 01:09:18.790 ⇒ 01:09:20.560 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s look at like.
630 01:09:25.569 ⇒ 01:09:27.289 JARED PATTERSON: Right there to resources.
631 01:09:27.979 ⇒ 01:09:28.739 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, here
632 01:09:44.549 ⇒ 01:09:45.899 Uttam Kumaran: a lot of text.
633 01:09:46.800 ⇒ 01:09:48.200 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I don’t really like that.
634 01:09:58.370 ⇒ 01:10:01.190 JARED PATTERSON: I’m still a big simplistic.
635 01:10:03.660 ⇒ 01:10:05.440 JARED PATTERSON: This just seems like a lot.
636 01:10:05.830 ⇒ 01:10:06.929 Uttam Kumaran: It is a lot.
637 01:10:08.430 ⇒ 01:10:10.200 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s try another one.
638 01:10:38.040 ⇒ 01:10:39.860 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know if they have
639 01:10:48.500 ⇒ 01:10:52.089 Uttam Kumaran: okay case studies. I don’t know why they hit it at the bottom.
640 01:10:57.910 ⇒ 01:10:59.419 Uttam Kumaran: Alright here, see.
641 01:10:59.560 ⇒ 01:11:01.020 Uttam Kumaran: this is kind of like
642 01:11:02.320 ⇒ 01:11:04.179 Uttam Kumaran: what we kind of try to do.
643 01:11:04.680 ⇒ 01:11:06.539 JARED PATTERSON: Like the tags for the services.
644 01:11:06.540 ⇒ 01:11:11.019 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, although these don’t go anywhere. But like, I wanna kind of have that sort of link.
645 01:11:12.490 ⇒ 01:11:13.409 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, don’t be quiet.
646 01:11:13.410 ⇒ 01:11:14.730 Uttam Kumaran: And bit into that one.
647 01:11:14.730 ⇒ 01:11:19.390 JARED PATTERSON: Thing like if someone was looking at integrating deep dbt, they would
648 01:11:19.490 ⇒ 01:11:21.710 JARED PATTERSON: wanna look at other case studies with.
649 01:11:21.710 ⇒ 01:11:22.630 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. People.
650 01:11:23.090 ⇒ 01:11:25.339 Uttam Kumaran: the problem with this is, it’s still a lot of text.
651 01:11:26.730 ⇒ 01:11:27.390 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
652 01:11:28.220 ⇒ 01:11:28.970 Uttam Kumaran: Right
653 01:11:31.040 ⇒ 01:11:33.169 Uttam Kumaran: like I’m with you in that like.
654 01:11:33.250 ⇒ 01:11:37.349 Uttam Kumaran: this is the problem I had before is that I would be like in this middle ground where I’m like.
655 01:11:37.700 ⇒ 01:11:42.330 Uttam Kumaran: I want more text. But I don’t. Now that we know that we’re going after Ceos.
656 01:11:42.490 ⇒ 01:11:43.900 Uttam Kumaran: it’s easy to be like
657 01:11:44.070 ⇒ 01:11:47.180 Uttam Kumaran: we need less text, more bullets.
658 01:11:47.300 ⇒ 01:11:51.050 Uttam Kumaran: results. Results like this is not good enough.
659 01:11:51.784 ⇒ 01:12:04.809 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe this is good for their strategy. But, like our strategy, we have to continue to push for like less tax, less tax, less text. So I want what we can do in in like this scenario is maybe
660 01:12:05.170 ⇒ 01:12:07.369 Uttam Kumaran: like I can think about
661 01:12:07.660 ⇒ 01:12:15.990 Uttam Kumaran: a quick diagram. Or again, we replace something here with, like the technologies use, and each of those are big and clickable.
662 01:12:16.860 ⇒ 01:12:17.440 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
663 01:12:21.900 ⇒ 01:12:23.719 Uttam Kumaran: right? And that’s it.
664 01:12:25.570 ⇒ 01:12:26.990 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, no, that’s a good idea.
665 01:12:27.240 ⇒ 01:12:28.267 Uttam Kumaran: So let me
666 01:12:29.140 ⇒ 01:12:33.337 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna see if I can get time between me, you and the
667 01:12:34.100 ⇒ 01:12:38.816 Uttam Kumaran: the designer but do you think maybe you could think about
668 01:12:40.150 ⇒ 01:12:46.190 Uttam Kumaran: I guess. Like, do we have everything we need to, even to have that conversation now, cause I can try to see if I can get it on the phone
669 01:12:46.450 ⇒ 01:12:48.769 Uttam Kumaran: like today or tomorrow. But
670 01:12:49.290 ⇒ 01:12:57.409 Uttam Kumaran: like looking at the notion like, let’s say, we were, gonna try to get her to help recraft this to basically do this.
671 01:13:01.278 ⇒ 01:13:03.470 Uttam Kumaran: let me go back to.
672 01:13:03.470 ⇒ 01:13:04.540 JARED PATTERSON: Have it all.
673 01:13:05.230 ⇒ 01:13:07.749 Uttam Kumaran: Do we have everything we need basically.
674 01:13:07.750 ⇒ 01:13:09.616 JARED PATTERSON: You need to think about
675 01:13:11.260 ⇒ 01:13:12.680 JARED PATTERSON: how?
676 01:13:12.790 ⇒ 01:13:17.220 JARED PATTERSON: Okay? Like, we know, it’s gonna be challenging solution results. How do you want that
677 01:13:17.290 ⇒ 01:13:18.330 JARED PATTERSON: split up?
678 01:13:18.410 ⇒ 01:13:19.759 JARED PATTERSON: Is, it has the
679 01:13:20.060 ⇒ 01:13:23.960 JARED PATTERSON: yeah like solution, as the 3 boxes of 3 paragraphs.
680 01:13:24.000 ⇒ 01:13:25.569 JARED PATTERSON: Do you want it to be
681 01:13:26.000 ⇒ 01:13:28.250 JARED PATTERSON: 3 different points?
682 01:13:28.280 ⇒ 01:13:31.759 JARED PATTERSON: Do you want it to be, you know, one big point.
683 01:13:32.050 ⇒ 01:13:33.140 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
684 01:13:34.220 ⇒ 01:13:40.180 Uttam Kumaran: So let me copy. Let me copy yours into here. And then let’s just talk about this. So what we have here.
685 01:13:47.110 ⇒ 01:13:50.170 JARED PATTERSON: If you’re going 3 points you could honestly just like
686 01:13:50.820 ⇒ 01:13:55.120 JARED PATTERSON: write that into the Prompt, where it’s like you want 3 little paragraphs for each one.
687 01:13:55.450 ⇒ 01:13:56.490 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
688 01:13:59.480 ⇒ 01:14:01.779 Uttam Kumaran: like, this would be the 3 points.
689 01:14:05.280 ⇒ 01:14:06.899 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, well, I mean.
690 01:14:07.720 ⇒ 01:14:10.079 JARED PATTERSON: you could also just do it yourself, I suppose. Yeah.
691 01:14:10.160 ⇒ 01:14:11.339 JARED PATTERSON: like, figure out how you want to.
692 01:14:11.340 ⇒ 01:14:19.329 Uttam Kumaran: I think is like I, we would we could change the prompt, basically to to now do this. But this is basically what I think the output would look like.
693 01:14:21.930 ⇒ 01:14:22.510 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
694 01:14:35.430 ⇒ 01:14:39.520 Uttam Kumaran: And then this I would need to kind of think about some like big numbers.
695 01:14:40.380 ⇒ 01:14:41.120 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
696 01:14:44.240 ⇒ 01:14:46.309 Uttam Kumaran: But I mean, this is pretty pretty good.
697 01:14:49.650 ⇒ 01:14:51.287 Uttam Kumaran: And then I’m gonna put your
698 01:14:52.370 ⇒ 01:14:53.870 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna put your
699 01:14:54.720 ⇒ 01:14:56.130 Uttam Kumaran: yeah. URL here.
700 01:15:07.170 ⇒ 01:15:08.100 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
701 01:15:08.500 ⇒ 01:15:09.699 Uttam Kumaran: so let me
702 01:15:13.240 ⇒ 01:15:16.969 Uttam Kumaran: let me call her and see whether we can make these changes. Basically.
703 01:15:17.310 ⇒ 01:15:19.810 Uttam Kumaran: I’m honestly okay with this, because
704 01:15:20.260 ⇒ 01:15:22.069 Uttam Kumaran: I can change this
705 01:15:22.100 ⇒ 01:15:24.059 Uttam Kumaran: to just have this information.
706 01:15:25.790 ⇒ 01:15:28.450 Uttam Kumaran: and this will just be like the company logo or something.
707 01:15:29.208 ⇒ 01:15:35.059 Uttam Kumaran: or like, if we basically cause I, I need to. I need to get some approval to basically do these. But
708 01:15:35.564 ⇒ 01:15:37.210 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll ask. There should be okay.
709 01:15:39.410 ⇒ 01:15:42.010 Uttam Kumaran: we’re gonna have, like a little bit about the company
710 01:15:42.280 ⇒ 01:15:45.930 Uttam Kumaran: key things about the challenge. 3 things, 3 things
711 01:15:46.360 ⇒ 01:15:47.760 Uttam Kumaran: solution.
712 01:15:48.960 ⇒ 01:15:50.220 Uttam Kumaran: And then
713 01:15:50.600 ⇒ 01:15:54.859 Uttam Kumaran: something. Here, I want to have, like the technologies used where it’s like clickable.
714 01:15:56.430 ⇒ 01:16:02.470 Uttam Kumaran: probably either just Logos or like names. And then when you click on it, it could go to that service specific thing, right?
715 01:16:03.850 ⇒ 01:16:11.240 Uttam Kumaran: So before we hop off today, one thing I want to do is maybe let’s just think about what’s the backlog of stuff that we want to do.
716 01:16:19.920 ⇒ 01:16:23.384 Uttam Kumaran: that way. I can crank on my end of the bargain.
717 01:16:26.960 ⇒ 01:16:30.149 Uttam Kumaran: How do I make this like wider? Can I just make this
718 01:16:40.370 ⇒ 01:16:44.569 Uttam Kumaran: like, why does it just like fit right here, like, why can’t it go wider
719 01:16:44.670 ⇒ 01:16:45.640 Uttam Kumaran: going on?
720 01:16:48.090 ⇒ 01:16:51.067 Uttam Kumaran: Just do this for now? Okay, so one thing I want to do is
721 01:17:07.260 ⇒ 01:17:08.950 Uttam Kumaran: this is going to be a.
722 01:17:55.890 ⇒ 01:18:01.020 Uttam Kumaran: then let’s just go. I’m just gonna I’m just gonna rip a bunch of these right now and then we’ll have
723 01:18:02.460 ⇒ 01:18:03.450 Uttam Kumaran: couple.
724 01:18:14.210 ⇒ 01:18:17.200 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know what their shortcut is to create new ones.
725 01:18:37.620 ⇒ 01:18:42.159 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, basically, I just want us to be like a content machine for the next week and get out like
726 01:18:42.480 ⇒ 01:18:44.449 Uttam Kumaran: as much of this as possible.
727 01:18:44.790 ⇒ 01:18:45.590 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
728 01:19:07.470 ⇒ 01:19:11.130 JARED PATTERSON: You make that service one into a custom. Gbt. Or now.
729 01:19:12.575 ⇒ 01:19:13.639 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we should.
730 01:19:19.630 ⇒ 01:19:21.759 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, let’s let’s do that, too.
731 01:19:23.370 ⇒ 01:19:26.329 Uttam Kumaran: the other thing like, maybe you wanna try
732 01:19:27.000 ⇒ 01:19:28.950 Uttam Kumaran: like here, I’ll show you
733 01:19:35.240 ⇒ 01:19:42.990 Uttam Kumaran: like. Maybe the one thing that might be interesting for you to go take this to like the next step is to try this with gum loop. Because
734 01:19:43.070 ⇒ 01:19:45.260 Uttam Kumaran: one thing that you can do on Gumloop
735 01:19:47.010 ⇒ 01:19:48.210 Uttam Kumaran: is
736 01:19:49.280 ⇒ 01:19:50.669 Uttam Kumaran: you could do like.
737 01:19:52.820 ⇒ 01:19:56.560 Uttam Kumaran: for example, on here. What you can do is you can say, cool. I want to create
738 01:19:58.060 ⇒ 01:19:59.850 Uttam Kumaran: I wanna load in
739 01:20:02.380 ⇒ 01:20:04.089 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s just text
740 01:20:06.370 ⇒ 01:20:07.680 Uttam Kumaran: more. Where is it?
741 01:20:13.090 ⇒ 01:20:14.460 Uttam Kumaran: Let me see. Hold on.
742 01:20:24.660 ⇒ 01:20:27.486 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So you can have like an input,
743 01:20:28.890 ⇒ 01:20:32.619 Uttam Kumaran: can have an input and then you can have AI to basically
744 01:20:36.360 ⇒ 01:20:38.229 Uttam Kumaran: this is basically just a prompt
745 01:20:40.360 ⇒ 01:20:45.190 Uttam Kumaran: and like, for example, and then you could connect the output here
746 01:20:45.260 ⇒ 01:20:46.750 Uttam Kumaran: as a context.
747 01:20:47.300 ⇒ 01:20:51.020 Uttam Kumaran: You can also have like, for example, you’re like.
748 01:20:51.880 ⇒ 01:20:55.140 Uttam Kumaran: tell me about this topic
749 01:20:55.740 ⇒ 01:20:58.310 Uttam Kumaran: and this, this would be input name
750 01:20:59.217 ⇒ 01:21:03.422 Uttam Kumaran: so we should show as user input like input
751 01:21:05.500 ⇒ 01:21:08.310 Uttam Kumaran: a topic. And then
752 01:21:08.640 ⇒ 01:21:09.919 Uttam Kumaran: you would have
753 01:21:10.260 ⇒ 01:21:11.690 Uttam Kumaran: the output here
754 01:21:12.120 ⇒ 01:21:13.550 Uttam Kumaran: as basically
755 01:21:14.650 ⇒ 01:21:15.580 Uttam Kumaran: this.
756 01:21:17.860 ⇒ 01:21:20.790 Uttam Kumaran: And so what we would do is we could hit, run.
757 01:21:21.010 ⇒ 01:21:24.600 Uttam Kumaran: and then let me just sign into, because I think I have an account.
758 01:21:31.750 ⇒ 01:21:34.130 Uttam Kumaran: So one thing you could do here is you hit, run.
759 01:21:34.450 ⇒ 01:21:35.919 Uttam Kumaran: And then basically.
760 01:21:37.004 ⇒ 01:21:40.950 Uttam Kumaran: okay, this is an example. So I would go to.
761 01:21:43.370 ⇒ 01:21:45.380 Uttam Kumaran: So you click this on the top left.
762 01:21:45.650 ⇒ 01:21:49.889 Uttam Kumaran: And you basically can go here. So I can say, like, World War 2
763 01:21:50.200 ⇒ 01:21:51.470 Uttam Kumaran: hit run.
764 01:21:51.960 ⇒ 01:21:55.990 Uttam Kumaran: And then it actually will just output
765 01:21:59.450 ⇒ 01:22:00.780 Uttam Kumaran: like the output here.
766 01:22:01.040 ⇒ 01:22:04.329 Uttam Kumaran: The thing I’m thinking about is we can basically
767 01:22:04.420 ⇒ 01:22:05.719 Uttam Kumaran: build like
768 01:22:06.030 ⇒ 01:22:07.800 Uttam Kumaran: a content little
769 01:22:08.220 ⇒ 01:22:11.639 Uttam Kumaran: agent for for Brain Forge, where it’s like.
770 01:22:12.510 ⇒ 01:22:15.810 Uttam Kumaran: basically like pick. If you’re doing case study or service offering.
771 01:22:15.960 ⇒ 01:22:23.379 Uttam Kumaran: once we pick it, it picks the service offering prompt, and then also you can in. You can have in here the
772 01:22:23.990 ⇒ 01:22:27.059 Uttam Kumaran: what is Brad and Forge prompt. That’s always defaulted.
773 01:22:27.110 ⇒ 01:22:29.249 Uttam Kumaran: And then we kind of have our own
774 01:22:29.260 ⇒ 01:22:31.910 Uttam Kumaran: like automation flow here.
775 01:22:32.960 ⇒ 01:22:35.700 Uttam Kumaran: and it’s just a little bit of a nicer interface than
776 01:22:35.860 ⇒ 01:22:37.519 Uttam Kumaran: the custom Gpt.
777 01:22:37.760 ⇒ 01:22:41.559 Uttam Kumaran: and we can kind of continue to build on top of it in like piecemeal.
778 01:22:42.520 ⇒ 01:22:43.220 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
779 01:22:43.220 ⇒ 01:22:44.620 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe nice to look at.
780 01:22:45.270 ⇒ 01:22:47.680 Uttam Kumaran: Gum loop. They have a ton of examples.
781 01:22:50.720 ⇒ 01:22:51.710 Uttam Kumaran: like.
782 01:22:53.089 ⇒ 01:22:59.480 Uttam Kumaran: these are all. Yeah. The article generators like different things, so you could probably start from
783 01:23:00.287 ⇒ 01:23:04.280 Uttam Kumaran: could probably start from scratch. But they have a lot of good examples.
784 01:23:06.390 ⇒ 01:23:09.890 Uttam Kumaran: but yeah, I think it could be nice to basically have
785 01:23:10.370 ⇒ 01:23:13.090 Uttam Kumaran: the inputs which would just basically be the transcript.
786 01:23:13.310 ⇒ 01:23:14.340 Uttam Kumaran: And then
787 01:23:14.430 ⇒ 01:23:21.549 Uttam Kumaran: you could string, for example, like we could have all of our prompts, basically like our what is Brainforge prompt.
788 01:23:21.570 ⇒ 01:23:24.840 Uttam Kumaran: And the case study prompts that basically get merged
789 01:23:25.505 ⇒ 01:23:28.200 Uttam Kumaran: and then you get the output. Basically.
790 01:23:28.561 ⇒ 01:23:30.810 Uttam Kumaran: so it might just be the next evolution
791 01:23:31.289 ⇒ 01:23:36.410 Uttam Kumaran: of what we do cause. Then it’s like fixed here. And we can continue to basically like, edit it.
792 01:23:40.120 ⇒ 01:23:41.270 Uttam Kumaran: What do you think.
793 01:23:42.810 ⇒ 01:23:44.889 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I guess the like. The only.
794 01:23:45.260 ⇒ 01:23:54.879 JARED PATTERSON: aside from like being able to edit it, it’s like just easy to use. And you can see kind of how it’s automated. Type thing is what what makes it so much.
795 01:23:55.400 ⇒ 01:23:57.760 JARED PATTERSON: which makes it like the use case much better.
796 01:23:59.250 ⇒ 01:24:03.889 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s that’s basically the additional thing is, I can hand that
797 01:24:04.130 ⇒ 01:24:05.929 Uttam Kumaran: to anybody on the team
798 01:24:06.120 ⇒ 01:24:07.410 Uttam Kumaran: and basically be like.
799 01:24:07.550 ⇒ 01:24:14.529 Uttam Kumaran: for example, I’m I want to get Patrick’s used cases. I want to get Brian’s used cases. I want to basically like you’ll record like
800 01:24:14.610 ⇒ 01:24:16.700 Uttam Kumaran: 2 min of you talking about
801 01:24:16.860 ⇒ 01:24:18.330 Uttam Kumaran: the software.
802 01:24:18.660 ⇒ 01:24:38.740 Uttam Kumaran: and then we go paste it into here and basically give us what you get like. The goal is like this on like a treadmill. So like we can continue using the custom Gbts. But I want to give you like that. This is how I want it to kind of evolve so that anyone can make a case study in 10 min.
803 01:24:39.646 ⇒ 01:24:53.510 Uttam Kumaran: And just play around in here like, you know? We’re not on a we’re not on a huge like time crunch on this. And we already basically have what we need to kind of solve this problem. But I just think it’s nicer because
804 01:24:53.570 ⇒ 01:24:57.358 Uttam Kumaran: there’s like a ton of nodes in here. And, for example, you can
805 01:24:57.660 ⇒ 01:25:08.840 Uttam Kumaran: combine the text, pass all that into AI, and then each of these small pieces. We can edit. For example, if we want to just change, like, if we want to change the brain, what is brain forge piece
806 01:25:09.450 ⇒ 01:25:19.029 Uttam Kumaran: in doing the custom. Gpt, it’s really difficult to iterate like very quickly in this situation we could just go in and quickly change one little small thing
807 01:25:19.150 ⇒ 01:25:20.469 Uttam Kumaran: and then rerun it.
808 01:25:22.630 ⇒ 01:25:25.810 Uttam Kumaran: and there’s a lot of other helpful stuff about like
809 01:25:26.817 ⇒ 01:25:36.210 Uttam Kumaran: like we can have that, you can add things like it could go to the Internet and scrape information about a topic and bring that in also. So like, I think this is just gonna help us like
810 01:25:36.410 ⇒ 01:25:38.549 Uttam Kumaran: speed up the amount of iterations
811 01:25:38.880 ⇒ 01:25:47.349 Uttam Kumaran: and always in engineering. I’m thinking about like cool. Let’s say, for example, in this process, we it took us, maybe, like 3 days, 4 days
812 01:25:47.390 ⇒ 01:25:48.860 Uttam Kumaran: to get to here
813 01:25:49.790 ⇒ 01:26:08.940 Uttam Kumaran: for the next version of, like our case study generator, it could take like a day the next it could take like a couple of hours. Right? So basically, we’ll we’re now gonna have like a case study service offering generator. And then we’re gonna develop all sorts of content. Right? We’re gonna do Linkedin posts, blog posts, tweets
814 01:26:09.230 ⇒ 01:26:10.439 Uttam Kumaran: all that
815 01:26:10.580 ⇒ 01:26:13.450 Uttam Kumaran: is gonna build off of this stuff. So
816 01:26:13.820 ⇒ 01:26:16.060 Uttam Kumaran: that’s how I’m thinking, basically.
817 01:26:17.490 ⇒ 01:26:18.150 JARED PATTERSON: But yeah.
818 01:26:19.450 ⇒ 01:26:24.830 Uttam Kumaran: So play around with this. I mean I I’m like, let me make sure I can let me add you to mine, because I think I have
819 01:26:26.520 ⇒ 01:26:29.430 Uttam Kumaran: I think I have like a paid version. I don’t know.
820 01:26:31.230 ⇒ 01:26:36.399 JARED PATTERSON: So it essentially be like inputs, always the one. Input and then it would have like
821 01:26:37.770 ⇒ 01:26:42.552 JARED PATTERSON: like for the about brain board. Would that already be like in there
822 01:26:43.460 ⇒ 01:26:47.419 JARED PATTERSON: like via text, and then integrated into the AI, or is that like.
823 01:26:47.420 ⇒ 01:26:53.343 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, I think what we would do is, for example, this would be so. I think the way you could do it is,
824 01:26:54.130 ⇒ 01:26:59.670 Uttam Kumaran: let’s do like Gpt. 4. So I think you could do like this. So this would be
825 01:27:01.360 ⇒ 01:27:05.200 Uttam Kumaran: So, for example, we wouldn’t allow users to modify that this would be.
826 01:27:05.520 ⇒ 01:27:09.689 Uttam Kumaran: and this will be called like Brain Forge about.
827 01:27:10.050 ⇒ 01:27:12.670 Uttam Kumaran: and we would paste in here. I think.
828 01:27:12.670 ⇒ 01:27:14.699 JARED PATTERSON: Edit. Yeah. Yeah.
829 01:27:15.170 ⇒ 01:27:18.889 Uttam Kumaran: Like. Let me find. Let me just like see if I can get that. So
830 01:27:21.060 ⇒ 01:27:22.240 Uttam Kumaran: Where is.
831 01:27:24.700 ⇒ 01:27:29.899 JARED PATTERSON: And then you do the same thing for the input. You want to allow it to be edited, and then let’s write that in as prompt.
832 01:27:30.110 ⇒ 01:27:33.240 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So like, for example, this would come in here.
833 01:27:33.920 ⇒ 01:27:35.289 Uttam Kumaran: And then.
834 01:27:38.560 ⇒ 01:27:42.880 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, this would come in and brain forge about. And then I think you can actually
835 01:27:46.560 ⇒ 01:27:48.260 Uttam Kumaran: reference this
836 01:27:51.450 ⇒ 01:27:53.229 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know how to.
837 01:28:08.480 ⇒ 01:28:12.370 Uttam Kumaran: So then so then here’s something. So what I would do is I would say,
838 01:28:23.160 ⇒ 01:28:26.709 Uttam Kumaran: let’s do this. So let’s create like another. Input.
839 01:28:26.990 ⇒ 01:28:28.379 Uttam Kumaran: this would be
840 01:28:29.020 ⇒ 01:28:29.930 Uttam Kumaran: this.
841 01:28:34.090 ⇒ 01:28:37.849 Uttam Kumaran: So this is like that entire case case study
842 01:28:37.910 ⇒ 01:28:39.790 Uttam Kumaran: prompt. I’m pretty sure. Yeah.
843 01:28:40.150 ⇒ 01:28:42.309 Uttam Kumaran: And then I’m going to
844 01:28:42.540 ⇒ 01:28:45.479 Uttam Kumaran: bring this in as a
845 01:28:45.900 ⇒ 01:28:47.559 Uttam Kumaran: as a prompt here.
846 01:28:48.990 ⇒ 01:28:52.179 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s basically you have the prompt and you have the context.
847 01:28:53.760 ⇒ 01:28:54.960 Uttam Kumaran: And then
848 01:28:55.570 ⇒ 01:28:59.610 Uttam Kumaran: I can also, for example, like we have this. So this is the
849 01:28:59.760 ⇒ 01:29:01.000 Uttam Kumaran: context.
850 01:29:02.750 ⇒ 01:29:04.809 Uttam Kumaran: this. And then.
851 01:29:06.610 ⇒ 01:29:07.910 Uttam Kumaran: so actually.
852 01:29:08.290 ⇒ 01:29:11.320 Uttam Kumaran: this probably needs to get combined with this. Maybe.
853 01:29:13.680 ⇒ 01:29:14.700 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So.
854 01:29:14.700 ⇒ 01:29:15.619 JARED PATTERSON: And been in there
855 01:29:17.010 ⇒ 01:29:17.710 JARED PATTERSON: as soon as.
856 01:29:17.710 ⇒ 01:29:20.100 Uttam Kumaran: So both of these are prompts. Right?
857 01:29:20.330 ⇒ 01:29:23.320 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah. Cause if you did it as context, it would
858 01:29:23.880 ⇒ 01:29:27.279 JARED PATTERSON: right about brain force as as a company doing a data study.
859 01:29:27.280 ⇒ 01:29:31.229 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I think what we could do is this, so I’ll delete this.
860 01:29:31.430 ⇒ 01:29:33.130 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll delete this.
861 01:29:33.610 ⇒ 01:29:37.449 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m gonna use this combined text block
862 01:29:38.875 ⇒ 01:29:44.869 Uttam Kumaran: and have this here I don’t wanna have this. Come on text. That’s gonna take both of these inputs.
863 01:29:49.710 ⇒ 01:29:51.643 Uttam Kumaran: And then I’m gonna say,
864 01:29:56.390 ⇒ 01:29:58.160 Uttam Kumaran: input 2
865 01:30:00.810 ⇒ 01:30:01.690 Uttam Kumaran: and then
866 01:30:02.470 ⇒ 01:30:03.610 Uttam Kumaran: and put
867 01:30:04.250 ⇒ 01:30:05.430 Uttam Kumaran: Juan
868 01:30:07.870 ⇒ 01:30:09.879 Uttam Kumaran: and looks like you can add as many as you want.
869 01:30:09.940 ⇒ 01:30:12.649 Uttam Kumaran: Both of these get put to the prompt.
870 01:30:12.870 ⇒ 01:30:21.479 Uttam Kumaran: The context is, gonna be our like, a new input for us. That’s gonna be what the user puts in. So let’s so if we duplicate this.
871 01:30:21.810 ⇒ 01:30:23.230 Uttam Kumaran: have this here
872 01:30:23.700 ⇒ 01:30:32.549 Uttam Kumaran: and basically don’t have a default value. We, this is gonna be called the case study input or this gonna be like the trans.
873 01:30:32.590 ⇒ 01:30:34.480 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, case study
874 01:30:34.700 ⇒ 01:30:37.060 Uttam Kumaran: transcript, input.
875 01:30:39.760 ⇒ 01:30:41.410 Uttam Kumaran: it’s gonna be user, input
876 01:30:42.570 ⇒ 01:30:46.010 Uttam Kumaran: and this is gonna be go in the S context.
877 01:30:46.840 ⇒ 01:30:49.040 Uttam Kumaran: And then we’re gonna run that through.
878 01:30:49.470 ⇒ 01:30:53.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, let’s just run that through. Gpt, 4. Oh.
879 01:30:53.770 ⇒ 01:30:55.989 Uttam Kumaran: and then let’s save this.
880 01:30:56.040 ⇒ 01:30:58.120 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let’s try it. So
881 01:30:58.660 ⇒ 01:31:00.799 Uttam Kumaran: we open this in user view
882 01:31:01.850 ⇒ 01:31:05.000 Uttam Kumaran: case study transcript. Input so let’s put in.
883 01:31:05.480 ⇒ 01:31:08.008 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s put in one of them for
884 01:31:10.480 ⇒ 01:31:13.550 Uttam Kumaran: We did. The shipping cost one. So let’s do this again. So
885 01:31:14.060 ⇒ 01:31:15.450 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna take this.
886 01:31:16.220 ⇒ 01:31:17.830 Uttam Kumaran: Put this in here.
887 01:31:18.570 ⇒ 01:31:19.779 Uttam Kumaran: Run this.
888 01:31:30.820 ⇒ 01:31:34.040 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s see if it does. It’s supposed to do.
889 01:31:41.240 ⇒ 01:31:42.860 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I see what you’re saying.
890 01:31:42.860 ⇒ 01:31:43.570 Uttam Kumaran: Dan.
891 01:31:44.140 ⇒ 01:31:45.970 Uttam Kumaran: I think maybe it’s a
892 01:31:47.460 ⇒ 01:31:48.280 Uttam Kumaran: like.
893 01:31:49.170 ⇒ 01:31:52.652 Uttam Kumaran: It’s probably we could probably just copy it from here. I don’t know why it’s like
894 01:31:53.180 ⇒ 01:31:54.210 JARED PATTERSON: Open in there.
895 01:31:54.450 ⇒ 01:31:57.000 Uttam Kumaran: Con consolidating this. But yeah.
896 01:31:58.220 ⇒ 01:32:01.149 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, no, that makes sense. I wonder if there’s a way to like
897 01:32:02.720 ⇒ 01:32:06.340 JARED PATTERSON: like, I know you said so. For example, like, if you had Patrick.
898 01:32:07.020 ⇒ 01:32:11.160 JARED PATTERSON: and wanting like recording and needing to input it. I wonder if there’s a way to like
899 01:32:12.340 ⇒ 01:32:22.140 JARED PATTERSON: automated with, like, if you were to email it to someone like for some email that it just like gets input it automatically and then like outputted somewhere.
900 01:32:22.400 ⇒ 01:32:24.570 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think there is like.
901 01:32:25.420 ⇒ 01:32:29.619 Uttam Kumaran: I think, basically, what we can also do is basically say, put this into a Google sheet.
902 01:32:29.880 ⇒ 01:32:33.250 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, it gets like appended or something like that.
903 01:32:34.030 ⇒ 01:32:38.048 Uttam Kumaran: So I think the 1st step is basically like, and I don’t know if we can
904 01:32:40.710 ⇒ 01:32:41.500 Uttam Kumaran: like.
905 01:32:43.360 ⇒ 01:32:46.290 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, you can have an if else, which is basically like.
906 01:32:47.260 ⇒ 01:32:49.719 Uttam Kumaran: if something do something else. But
907 01:32:49.980 ⇒ 01:32:54.679 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, ideally, because the nice thing is look right now. And we could even further
908 01:32:54.760 ⇒ 01:32:56.629 Uttam Kumaran: break each of these pieces down
909 01:32:57.030 ⇒ 01:32:57.880 Uttam Kumaran: right?
910 01:32:58.349 ⇒ 01:33:03.839 Uttam Kumaran: And so, for example, if we’re like, yeah, let’s change this to something else. We don’t have to go modify every gpt
911 01:33:04.070 ⇒ 01:33:05.609 Uttam Kumaran: we could just do it here.
912 01:33:05.800 ⇒ 01:33:06.859 Uttam Kumaran: No, that makes them
913 01:33:07.450 ⇒ 01:33:10.360 Uttam Kumaran: so. That’s what’s nice. So let me look. I don’t.
914 01:33:12.020 ⇒ 01:33:14.070 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know if I’m like on the
915 01:33:16.890 ⇒ 01:33:20.699 Uttam Kumaran: 5,000 calls standard advanced AI calls.
916 01:33:23.940 ⇒ 01:33:27.600 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe try it out. See if you hit the limit on these.
917 01:33:27.930 ⇒ 01:33:30.969 Uttam Kumaran: But I’m gonna see if I can just share this.
918 01:33:31.800 ⇒ 01:33:35.240 Uttam Kumaran: or maybe we should. Maybe I should create like a joint account or something.
919 01:33:43.880 ⇒ 01:33:45.849 Uttam Kumaran: Do I have a gone loop?
920 01:34:37.530 ⇒ 01:34:41.320 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. So I’ll send this to you on one password. But you should be able to log in.
921 01:34:41.760 ⇒ 01:34:45.489 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, I mean, I think, let me play around. Let me let me
922 01:34:45.600 ⇒ 01:34:54.349 Uttam Kumaran: finish up adding all these like all the lists to the case studies. And I’m just gonna try and record transcripts for all of them, basically.
923 01:34:54.740 ⇒ 01:34:57.930 Uttam Kumaran: And then we should have enough to basically
924 01:34:58.060 ⇒ 01:35:03.149 Uttam Kumaran: start churning it out in parallel. I’m gonna ask the designer to see if you want to make any tweaks to that site.
925 01:35:03.540 ⇒ 01:35:04.500 Uttam Kumaran: So.
926 01:35:05.730 ⇒ 01:35:06.390 JARED PATTERSON: Okay.
927 01:35:08.150 ⇒ 01:35:11.899 JARED PATTERSON: So like, for example, shipping cost measurement and advertising measurement, like
928 01:35:12.290 ⇒ 01:35:14.479 JARED PATTERSON: both those transcripts have been recorded.
929 01:35:14.480 ⇒ 01:35:15.080 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
930 01:35:16.770 ⇒ 01:35:18.547 Uttam Kumaran: so let me
931 01:35:19.930 ⇒ 01:35:23.340 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna put that here. So yeah, these are both recorded.
932 01:35:26.920 ⇒ 01:35:27.969 Uttam Kumaran: And then we did.
933 01:35:27.990 ⇒ 01:35:31.549 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, so I think we try. We did create the one for
934 01:35:31.910 ⇒ 01:35:34.709 Uttam Kumaran: shipping costs, but we don’t have the one for advertising.
935 01:35:35.240 ⇒ 01:35:44.720 Uttam Kumaran: but also let me know like, let me know what results you get. And I can re-record them. Now that I kind of have an understanding cause. Also. Now in the Transcript, I’m gonna record
936 01:35:45.700 ⇒ 01:35:48.330 Uttam Kumaran: 3 key problems like
937 01:35:48.580 ⇒ 01:35:52.069 Uttam Kumaran: like, now that I know we’re doing that, the transcripts will get better.
938 01:35:55.280 ⇒ 01:35:58.349 Uttam Kumaran: but this is like way faster now, also. So
939 01:35:58.410 ⇒ 01:36:03.680 Uttam Kumaran: ideally like, I’m gonna rip through like as many of these transcripts. And then
940 01:36:03.980 ⇒ 01:36:07.700 Uttam Kumaran: we can just hopefully basically shove it to there, get the outputs
941 01:36:07.790 ⇒ 01:36:10.040 Uttam Kumaran: and then work on the sites.
942 01:36:10.450 ⇒ 01:36:11.080 JARED PATTERSON: Okay.
943 01:36:13.020 ⇒ 01:36:13.970 JARED PATTERSON: Sounds good.
944 01:36:14.560 ⇒ 01:36:15.440 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, sick.
945 01:36:17.080 ⇒ 01:36:20.627 Uttam Kumaran: Alright. Probably gonna take a break. I need some food.
946 01:36:21.370 ⇒ 01:36:36.649 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I’m I was. Gonna say, the same. I guess like. In the meantime, I’ll kind of just wait for like you want me to work on. You want me to do the advertising management or measurement using the service prop we had, and like kind of similar scenario.
947 01:36:36.650 ⇒ 01:36:37.350 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
948 01:36:38.770 ⇒ 01:36:45.430 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, just get familiar. Get like familiar with, like, how the prompts are working. And then the gum loop stuff I’m like.
949 01:36:45.600 ⇒ 01:36:48.820 Uttam Kumaran: I just wanna give you an opportunity to
950 01:36:49.150 ⇒ 01:36:52.330 Uttam Kumaran: basically think about, okay, how do we turn this into like a real like.
951 01:36:52.940 ⇒ 01:36:53.440 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.
952 01:36:53.440 ⇒ 01:36:57.562 Uttam Kumaran: Think it a little bit faster, but I’m not. It works with the tools we have. So I’m happy.
953 01:36:58.572 ⇒ 01:37:13.260 Uttam Kumaran: But I think it’s interesting to think about how we could make it a little bit faster. And then also, for for example, for there’s some technologies that I on the team, I didn’t implement. So I want to be able to give the person who did
954 01:37:13.470 ⇒ 01:37:17.180 Uttam Kumaran: basically tell them, hey, here’s like, I need you to record a 2 min segment
955 01:37:17.320 ⇒ 01:37:18.970 Uttam Kumaran: just talking about it.
956 01:37:19.000 ⇒ 01:37:21.039 Uttam Kumaran: And then we’re going to turn that to a transcript
957 01:37:22.650 ⇒ 01:37:25.359 Uttam Kumaran: and then basically get to the point where it’s like
958 01:37:25.510 ⇒ 01:37:29.130 Uttam Kumaran: me or you don’t have to record the Transcript and me, or you actually don’t have to even go
959 01:37:29.190 ⇒ 01:37:31.429 Uttam Kumaran: press the button to get the case study.
960 01:37:31.980 ⇒ 01:37:40.160 Uttam Kumaran: Then we hit. We hit the jackpot, which is like, we’re not involved anymore. So it’s thinking about it.
961 01:37:40.900 ⇒ 01:37:41.900 JARED PATTERSON: Input
962 01:37:42.410 ⇒ 01:37:46.840 JARED PATTERSON: somewhere like, like you said it could be saved somewhere, whatever. And then that runs
963 01:37:46.980 ⇒ 01:37:51.300 JARED PATTERSON: outputs it to somewhere else. And then from there you can just grab the completed versions.
964 01:37:51.300 ⇒ 01:37:53.329 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, maybe like a Google sheet
965 01:37:53.550 ⇒ 01:37:55.549 Uttam Kumaran: is best where it’s like.
966 01:37:59.190 ⇒ 01:38:01.879 Uttam Kumaran: where people just paste in their transcript.
967 01:38:02.060 ⇒ 01:38:03.300 Uttam Kumaran: And then
968 01:38:06.180 ⇒ 01:38:10.419 Uttam Kumaran: it outputs it to notion, or it outputs it in that Google sheet itself.
969 01:38:11.438 ⇒ 01:38:13.530 Uttam Kumaran: Again, it’s like thinking through like.
970 01:38:13.550 ⇒ 01:38:15.709 Uttam Kumaran: what’s the 80 20 on
971 01:38:15.730 ⇒ 01:38:18.500 Uttam Kumaran: what’s super helpful versus what’s like a nice to have.
972 01:38:18.930 ⇒ 01:38:19.670 Uttam Kumaran: Aye.
973 01:38:19.670 ⇒ 01:38:21.409 JARED PATTERSON: Well, I mean I it’s not like I’m
974 01:38:21.440 ⇒ 01:38:25.179 JARED PATTERSON: super super busy. But yeah, no, that’s that’s good.
975 01:38:25.180 ⇒ 01:38:30.530 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, try and get good. Get a play around with gum loop. There’s a lot of other automations.
976 01:38:30.880 ⇒ 01:38:34.389 Uttam Kumaran: and it’s like I wanna use it for like a bunch of other stuff, too. So
977 01:38:34.410 ⇒ 01:38:38.250 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna I think my ideally thing is like we build in gum loop.
978 01:38:38.360 ⇒ 01:38:46.450 Uttam Kumaran: And then we think about okay, like, are we happy with it? Or do we want to try to do it in flow? Wise because flow wise is a little bit more advanced.
979 01:38:46.900 ⇒ 01:38:52.169 Uttam Kumaran: But, like Dom loop like, we can easily create these like little Mini internal apps to speed this up.
980 01:38:52.500 ⇒ 01:38:53.799 Uttam Kumaran: And then.
981 01:38:54.340 ⇒ 01:38:58.359 Uttam Kumaran: like maybe potentially flow wise, we could actually
982 01:38:58.440 ⇒ 01:39:02.167 Uttam Kumaran: have it talked to notion and stuff like that. But
983 01:39:02.610 ⇒ 01:39:05.360 Uttam Kumaran: again, it’s just like I wanna go from like.
984 01:39:05.550 ⇒ 01:39:11.179 Uttam Kumaran: basically like sticks and stones to like fire to then like
985 01:39:11.420 ⇒ 01:39:13.508 Uttam Kumaran: the jet, you know.
986 01:39:14.570 ⇒ 01:39:17.390 Uttam Kumaran: so. And to think that think about things that way because
987 01:39:17.650 ⇒ 01:39:24.329 Uttam Kumaran: anything we do once or twice I want it the 3rd time we do it. I want it to be like cool. How do we do this faster? So that’s the goal
988 01:39:25.170 ⇒ 01:39:25.850 Uttam Kumaran: for
989 01:39:26.540 ⇒ 01:39:37.570 Uttam Kumaran: alright cool. I’m on the rest of the day. So slack me, if you need anything, I’m basically focused on sales stuff all day today. So I’m gonna continue to get notion organized. But any help you could do there
990 01:39:37.680 ⇒ 01:39:39.189 Uttam Kumaran: is also helpful, like
991 01:39:39.650 ⇒ 01:39:44.579 Uttam Kumaran: getting that stuff organized. And it’s basically me and you tag teaming that so.
992 01:39:45.090 ⇒ 01:39:45.939 JARED PATTERSON: Sounds good.
993 01:39:46.150 ⇒ 01:39:46.820 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
994 01:39:47.350 ⇒ 01:39:48.359 Uttam Kumaran: Hi, man.
995 01:39:48.980 ⇒ 01:39:50.590 JARED PATTERSON: Thanks guys, cool.
996 01:39:51.160 ⇒ 01:39:52.140 Uttam Kumaran: Alright! I’ll talk to you soon.