Meeting Title: Uttam <> Jared Date: 2024-06-17 Meeting participants: Jared Patterson, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:00:15.520 00:00:16.877 Uttam Kumaran: You know Jared.

2 00:00:17.330 00:00:18.280 JARED PATTERSON: Hello!

3 00:00:18.630 00:00:19.845 Uttam Kumaran: Hey? How’s it going.

4 00:00:20.150 00:00:20.930 JARED PATTERSON: Good! How are you?

5 00:00:21.580 00:00:22.630 Uttam Kumaran: Good.

6 00:00:24.720 00:00:28.410 Uttam Kumaran: thanks. Sorry. I was just on with Jacob about something else.

7 00:00:28.773 00:00:29.500 JARED PATTERSON: No worries.

8 00:00:29.740 00:00:30.872 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. How’s the

9 00:00:31.590 00:00:33.759 Uttam Kumaran: How’s the weekend.

10 00:00:34.930 00:00:45.369 JARED PATTERSON: It was good. It was good. I honestly didn’t get up to too much. Just kinda hanging out, looking just to chill around home and stuff like that before I move. You know.

11 00:00:46.510 00:00:50.010 Uttam Kumaran: Nice. Where are you? Where are you? Where are you moving to in the city.

12 00:00:50.988 00:00:55.549 JARED PATTERSON: We got. I got a place with 3 other guys I know in the East village.

13 00:00:56.570 00:00:58.751 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice. Okay, yeah. That’s where I used to live.

14 00:00:58.970 00:01:01.819 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I’m I’m looking forward. I think it’ll be pretty fun.

15 00:01:02.140 00:01:03.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

16 00:01:03.955 00:01:07.009 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Okay. So let me pull up some notes. One side.

17 00:01:07.010 00:01:08.850 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, no worries. How was your weekend.

18 00:01:09.530 00:01:13.100 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, weekend was good. I was actually in Boston.

19 00:01:13.100 00:01:13.440 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.

20 00:01:13.440 00:01:16.930 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, it was good. It was just tiring. I mean, wedding is like.

21 00:01:17.420 00:01:22.910 Uttam Kumaran: it’s a lot of talking and a lot of like mingling, and I’m kinda done with going to weddings like.

22 00:01:22.910 00:01:24.150 JARED PATTERSON: Like small talk.

23 00:01:24.458 00:01:26.929 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s just a lot of small talk.

24 00:01:29.700 00:01:36.100 Uttam Kumaran: and like, I mean, if people ask about work, I’m gonna talk about work. But then my girlfriends like don’t talk about work, and I’m like, Well.

25 00:01:36.410 00:01:45.626 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t. Fucking. Don’t want to talk about anything else, cause I can see these people ever again, so I could get some good work opportunities out of it. I’m like happy to. So.

26 00:01:45.890 00:01:48.409 JARED PATTERSON: Exactly. No, that makes total sense to me.

27 00:01:48.920 00:01:49.690 JARED PATTERSON: He’s not.

28 00:01:50.112 00:01:55.177 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. So I think today I’ve been spending a lot of time

29 00:01:56.410 00:02:03.730 Uttam Kumaran: like thinking about sales and just like thinking about our conversation last week, and kind of just like

30 00:02:03.830 00:02:06.099 Uttam Kumaran: kind of put more pen to paper on like

31 00:02:06.390 00:02:17.180 Uttam Kumaran: where what we can be spending time on, like what some actual things that mean you can work on. And then what we can work on individually. So I’m in this like sales. Thoughts 613, doc.

32 00:02:18.640 00:02:20.190 JARED PATTERSON: Yep, I’m in there, too.

33 00:02:20.610 00:02:42.059 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So basically, I kinda noted a bunch of stuff down that I that I wanna work on. The other thing is, I wanna maybe walk through the figma as well today. Just talking about like the process of getting customers. And what I’m thinking, basically, last time we talked a little bit how I wanna keep working on basically like that

34 00:02:42.160 00:02:55.781 Uttam Kumaran: top of funnel which is really getting together material. So that when I go pitch, people like the site is full of content about what we can do, what we’ve done, and things like that which is really

35 00:02:56.360 00:03:01.730 Uttam Kumaran: kind of doing this case study creation process. And this isn’t gonna include, like Pdf

36 00:03:01.780 00:03:05.429 Uttam Kumaran: case studies and like

37 00:03:05.810 00:03:07.190 Uttam Kumaran: website

38 00:03:08.427 00:03:14.502 Uttam Kumaran: case studies as well as the like service page creation for websites.

39 00:03:15.240 00:03:23.280 Uttam Kumaran: So these are the things that I think I think probably most quickly like me. And you can really like pair and work on a couple of other things that

40 00:03:23.640 00:03:46.939 Uttam Kumaran: I’m looking at. So one is in order to kind of do a big push which is like posting on Linkedin, going and talking to a ton of people like, I want these materials basically to be there. So one is like, I can hand everybody on our team collateral. Some people that we’re working with who are partners, for example, like some of the tools we’re using. Their partners with us, and I would love to provide them with some materials.

41 00:03:47.681 00:04:01.359 Uttam Kumaran: And then I just have like a bunch of meetings that I’m like setting up with with folks. But I think the closest thing, the most important thing right now is just like working on creating these like case studies and like service pages.

42 00:04:03.030 00:04:07.840 Uttam Kumaran: and I think, like the basic process is like, we wanna have case studies

43 00:04:08.110 00:04:11.840 Uttam Kumaran: for each client we’ve worked on.

44 00:04:12.030 00:04:14.410 Uttam Kumaran: You also would have services

45 00:04:14.730 00:04:18.279 Uttam Kumaran: for each major service service pages

46 00:04:19.180 00:04:21.470 Uttam Kumaran: for each major service plus

47 00:04:21.670 00:04:24.029 Uttam Kumaran: each major industry.

48 00:04:24.410 00:04:33.179 Uttam Kumaran: So this is like service pages. This could include, like snowflake services which we already have like a document on this could include Dbt industries.

49 00:04:33.180 00:04:33.680 JARED PATTERSON: And is.

50 00:04:33.680 00:04:34.280 Uttam Kumaran: And is that.

51 00:04:34.280 00:04:44.689 JARED PATTERSON: Is that basically like, when you say service pages you’re talking about just like it kind of walks you through what the product is and what it can like, how it could be integrated into whatever the the client needs type, thing.

52 00:04:45.070 00:04:50.124 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So let me actually send you an example of one that that we’ve done

53 00:04:51.013 00:04:52.880 Uttam Kumaran: that way. You have a

54 00:04:53.440 00:04:55.600 Uttam Kumaran: you have an example.

55 00:04:56.720 00:04:57.640 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, here it is.

56 00:05:13.520 00:05:16.199 Uttam Kumaran: We’ll send this to you in the sales channel.

57 00:05:59.580 00:06:03.909 Uttam Kumaran: So this is like an example of like one of our data services pages.

58 00:06:03.950 00:06:10.340 Uttam Kumaran: So basically, it’s like, I wanna make sure we have a page like this for all of our like key services.

59 00:06:10.840 00:06:16.020 Uttam Kumaran: this one is really focused on like data as a whole. But as you can see, there’s like multiple pieces.

60 00:06:16.120 00:06:21.899 Uttam Kumaran: I kinda need help thinking through. And like, I want to use AI for basically like helping to write these.

61 00:06:22.637 00:06:27.520 Uttam Kumaran: That way. We can like kind of churn like, have, like 5 or 6 of these ready to go

62 00:06:28.137 00:06:32.322 Uttam Kumaran: both across specific technologies as well as

63 00:06:33.860 00:06:47.689 Uttam Kumaran: across specific technologies as well as across, like a certain industry. So like, how do we? How how we work for people in the e-commerce, how we work with people in software. So I think, you know, I probably have. I probably have the knowledge on, like

64 00:06:47.760 00:06:53.959 Uttam Kumaran: what some of the content is. But I would love some help thinking through, like, how can we create, like some sort of process by which

65 00:06:54.090 00:06:58.230 Uttam Kumaran: we can use AI to like or chat Gbt to basically help.

66 00:06:58.570 00:07:00.050 Uttam Kumaran: Take, maybe take like.

67 00:07:00.390 00:07:03.669 Uttam Kumaran: like, like, for example, if I was to say if I was to just record like a

68 00:07:03.770 00:07:10.970 Uttam Kumaran: 2 min thing about how we’ve done work in e-commerce. And some of the things we’ve done. How can I just put that in Chat Gbt, and basically get like

69 00:07:11.740 00:07:15.800 Uttam Kumaran: each of these different segments, you know, that’s that would be like, my.

70 00:07:15.830 00:07:17.649 Uttam Kumaran: that’d be like my idea.

71 00:07:17.650 00:07:19.303 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, no, I think that’s a good idea.

72 00:07:19.510 00:07:33.279 Uttam Kumaran: Cause I can. I can talk about like, okay, how we’ve done work in software, how we’ve done work in this. But I think the the gap I have is like getting it from there into, like each of these little line items, I think there’s a great opportunity to use chat to basically assist with that.

73 00:07:33.560 00:07:38.050 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, no, I’ve I mean, I’ve done similar stuff like in school, kinda like

74 00:07:38.490 00:07:43.870 JARED PATTERSON: I would if I was like. Had to write something I would get like an outline based like through.

75 00:07:43.870 00:07:44.450 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

76 00:07:44.450 00:07:45.439 JARED PATTERSON: So I think.

77 00:07:45.440 00:07:45.930 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly.

78 00:07:45.930 00:07:49.200 JARED PATTERSON: Like main thing, for that would be just like

79 00:07:50.110 00:07:56.090 JARED PATTERSON: well, for one like you figure out kinda like how you want it to be formatted, and then just have that

80 00:07:56.520 00:08:03.449 JARED PATTERSON: like throughout everything. And I don’t know. I’m I’m sure I think like when I read your other case studies it kind of already had some

81 00:08:03.460 00:08:07.790 JARED PATTERSON: like formatting that you wanted. That was like already in both of them.

82 00:08:07.940 00:08:08.869 JARED PATTERSON: for all 3 of them. But.

83 00:08:08.870 00:08:09.280 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

84 00:08:09.280 00:08:10.409 JARED PATTERSON: How many other work, so.

85 00:08:10.410 00:08:16.720 Uttam Kumaran: If you if you go to. If you go back to the Sigma like the Sigma, the, there’s a website for case studies that.

86 00:08:16.750 00:08:21.699 Uttam Kumaran: But we’re gonna kinda make sure that it it can mold into that. Basically.

87 00:08:24.340 00:08:25.540 Uttam Kumaran: you see what I’m saying.

88 00:08:26.080 00:08:27.840 JARED PATTERSON: Yes.

89 00:08:28.920 00:08:30.399 JARED PATTERSON: like you’re talking about on the sales.

90 00:08:30.400 00:08:31.470 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I’ll

91 00:08:32.230 00:08:35.790 Uttam Kumaran: yeah. Well, I’m gonna let me open the figma on my side

92 00:08:45.930 00:08:47.549 Uttam Kumaran: in a second.

93 00:09:04.797 00:09:07.000 Uttam Kumaran: So if I go to final.

94 00:09:19.050 00:09:23.619 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So if you go to like the brain forge website for reflow page.

95 00:09:23.920 00:09:25.949 Uttam Kumaran: otherwise, yeah, I can send you this

96 00:09:26.040 00:09:27.270 Uttam Kumaran: link again.

97 00:09:30.940 00:09:33.349 Uttam Kumaran: So on this page, there’s like this

98 00:09:33.440 00:09:35.069 Uttam Kumaran: case study page.

99 00:09:35.570 00:09:37.100 Uttam Kumaran: So basically like

100 00:09:37.450 00:09:38.770 Uttam Kumaran: this page

101 00:09:38.960 00:09:41.646 Uttam Kumaran: is what we’re looking to fill out.

102 00:09:47.100 00:09:48.732 JARED PATTERSON: Okay, I’m on there.

103 00:09:49.750 00:09:50.700 JARED PATTERSON: okay.

104 00:09:50.880 00:09:52.550 JARED PATTERSON: I would probably just.

105 00:09:58.380 00:09:59.709 Uttam Kumaran: So like we have, like.

106 00:10:00.390 00:10:06.030 Uttam Kumaran: we kind of have like this title. This can be a quote, or like, basically just like a like another subtitle.

107 00:10:06.160 00:10:07.330 Uttam Kumaran: the about.

108 00:10:07.740 00:10:10.010 Uttam Kumaran: and like these kind of like

109 00:10:10.060 00:10:11.190 Uttam Kumaran: fangs

110 00:10:11.360 00:10:17.479 Uttam Kumaran: like, well, like, I guess if we think about like, let’s if we think about like a 1st example, would it be easiest for me to just like

111 00:10:17.700 00:10:25.530 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I could talk through and record, basically like about a certain company we work with? Then it’s the process of like getting into this.

112 00:10:27.350 00:10:29.640 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I would probably.

113 00:10:34.940 00:10:39.536 JARED PATTERSON: So like, are you looking to like, you’re keeping the same thing like

114 00:10:40.220 00:10:42.840 JARED PATTERSON: challenge solution. Result, that kind of.

115 00:10:42.840 00:10:43.490 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

116 00:10:43.880 00:10:44.580 JARED PATTERSON: Okay.

117 00:10:45.107 00:10:50.530 JARED PATTERSON: yeah, I would just probably like, do what you said, record it. And then.

118 00:10:50.530 00:10:51.100 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll get it.

119 00:10:51.100 00:11:05.890 JARED PATTERSON: I would just come up with like a prompt for chat. Gbt, that like, you know, it’s always outputting the same thing. So like if there’s key, and if I don’t know if you want to tie it into something else, it’s already like on the website, like, if there’s like a life like a a project. Life cycle. You always

120 00:11:06.320 00:11:08.767 JARED PATTERSON: kind of use for everything. Or if there’s different

121 00:11:09.430 00:11:11.930 JARED PATTERSON: like the 4 points of kind of you mentioned to me like

122 00:11:11.960 00:11:16.040 JARED PATTERSON: analysis, engineering stuff like that. So just like, figure out, which

123 00:11:16.840 00:11:21.619 JARED PATTERSON: like, say, you wanted to separate to 3 different parts of data.

124 00:11:22.579 00:11:35.050 JARED PATTERSON: Then you could, you would just write, you’d have the proper name for all them, and then you would just say, like you’d give chat. You could either prompt, and then it would say, Okay, give me the writing you want to use for the prompt you’d provide them with.

125 00:11:35.390 00:11:36.800 JARED PATTERSON: You’re recording.

126 00:11:37.240 00:11:38.680 JARED PATTERSON: And then it would output

127 00:11:39.790 00:11:40.750 JARED PATTERSON: kind of your case, study.

128 00:11:40.750 00:11:44.550 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, re recording recording meeting, I would just be a transcript of me, basically.

129 00:11:44.550 00:11:45.880 JARED PATTERSON: Right, right, right.

130 00:11:45.880 00:11:55.410 Uttam Kumaran: Ca, to to even closer. The challenge for me is like, I am not really good at like this sort of small copy, but I know chat. Jbt can probably get us an 80% of the way there.

131 00:11:55.430 00:11:57.509 Uttam Kumaran: And then we can basically like tweak it.

132 00:11:57.680 00:12:15.089 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna I just wanna go through and basically like record, a ton of my voice and basically do the transcripts for like, how we’ve done stuff in Ecom, how we’ve done stuff in manufacturing how we’ve done stuff. And then basically also want service pages for each of that. So like, basically wanna be like, can we plug in like me talking about

133 00:12:15.380 00:12:26.230 Uttam Kumaran: like, for example, let’s say we’re writing a service page about how we do data engineering. Can we plug that to chat? It gives us like each of these 3 things, it gives us the title it gives us like this. And then these content basically.

134 00:12:27.500 00:12:28.190 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.

135 00:12:29.720 00:12:30.510 JARED PATTERSON: yeah, that’s it.

136 00:12:30.510 00:12:31.500 Uttam Kumaran: Possible, right.

137 00:12:31.850 00:12:39.430 JARED PATTERSON: Oh, it’s very possible the the thing I’ve noticed through Chat Gbt. Though, and I don’t know which one like. If you guys have like the pro one, or just use like the

138 00:12:39.660 00:12:42.580 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I have, like the the the, whatever the pro one is.

139 00:12:42.810 00:12:47.230 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, cause I know that. Like as long as you’re pretty specific on, like

140 00:12:48.150 00:12:50.740 JARED PATTERSON: what your initial prompt is to it.

141 00:12:50.940 00:12:54.139 JARED PATTERSON: it’s pretty good at creating whatever you’re asking for.

142 00:12:56.010 00:13:03.939 Uttam Kumaran: So why don’t we try? Why don’t we try it with like? Let’s take these 2 layouts. And why don’t we try with a service and a case study

143 00:13:04.450 00:13:08.709 Uttam Kumaran: and like, let me, let’s make a decision now, because then I’ll record it and get it to you today.

144 00:13:10.710 00:13:12.929 Uttam Kumaran: like, maybe let’s think about.

145 00:13:13.850 00:13:15.839 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna write a bunch of like.

146 00:13:16.170 00:13:19.019 Uttam Kumaran: just write a bunch of options here and we can think about it

147 00:13:20.290 00:13:21.440 Uttam Kumaran: service.

148 00:13:22.360 00:13:23.060 Uttam Kumaran: It’s

149 00:13:23.480 00:13:24.270 Uttam Kumaran: Glenn.

150 00:13:26.360 00:13:33.370 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, cause like, what I’d ask from you is like, aside from the the recording with the transcript, I would just have you like.

151 00:13:34.240 00:13:43.649 JARED PATTERSON: So across all these case studies, what are the main points you want to be in there? Because I think it’s a lot easier for like someone to come, read on the website if they’re all formatted the same way.

152 00:13:44.060 00:13:47.629 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I guess, like in that, yeah.

153 00:13:48.020 00:13:53.634 JARED PATTERSON: I don’t mean like formatted like visually like they don’t necessarily have to be visually the exact same. But

154 00:13:55.600 00:13:57.129 JARED PATTERSON: So like my like.

155 00:13:57.130 00:13:57.600 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s.

156 00:13:57.600 00:13:58.360 JARED PATTERSON: And I’d say, like, Yeah.

157 00:13:58.360 00:13:59.200 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s why, like my.

158 00:13:59.200 00:13:59.800 JARED PATTERSON: Project.

159 00:14:00.250 00:14:04.456 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Mike, my thinking was, if you look at where my, I’m I’m here under like featured work.

160 00:14:04.880 00:14:12.279 Uttam Kumaran: I was gonna have tags under each client that’s basically like this is related to analytics. This is related to data modeling. And so

161 00:14:12.290 00:14:16.589 Uttam Kumaran: basically, any page is going to be related to like, what see this thing, this thing? Scrolls

162 00:14:16.860 00:14:22.200 Uttam Kumaran: basically click on these. And you can get to like any number of these pages is the idea.

163 00:14:22.610 00:14:23.270 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.

164 00:14:24.550 00:14:27.060 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s why this is consistent everywhere. Because

165 00:14:27.400 00:14:32.009 Uttam Kumaran: every page used to be tied to like one or more of diesel tags. Basically.

166 00:14:32.710 00:14:33.340 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.

167 00:14:38.950 00:14:44.379 Uttam Kumaran: Because, for example, when I talk about one client, I may talk about like how we did data, engineering and analysis stuff.

168 00:14:44.490 00:14:45.460 Uttam Kumaran: Right? Wow.

169 00:14:45.460 00:14:48.009 JARED PATTERSON: It’s not going to be necessarily the same through all of them. Right.

170 00:14:48.010 00:14:57.100 Uttam Kumaran: It’s not the same through all of them, but it’s more like, I would say, the case studies. And again, this is just like it’s helpful to even just talk through this for me, like the case, studies are more.

171 00:14:57.120 00:15:04.640 Uttam Kumaran: I want people to come in and say, like, Oh, I’m a company that’s like, almost just like that. Or, yeah, our company is the same. And we have that one problem that they they also had

172 00:15:04.790 00:15:07.929 Uttam Kumaran: right like, that’s the thing is like, almost just like telling stories.

173 00:15:08.060 00:15:08.990 Uttam Kumaran: right? And just how many.

174 00:15:08.990 00:15:09.320 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.

175 00:15:09.320 00:15:10.590 Uttam Kumaran: Can we get out there?

176 00:15:10.770 00:15:14.420 Uttam Kumaran: The thing that’s the thing that I know is going to be

177 00:15:14.810 00:15:16.850 Uttam Kumaran: challenging is that

178 00:15:18.470 00:15:21.270 Uttam Kumaran: getting every single detail

179 00:15:21.450 00:15:25.810 Uttam Kumaran: like in this format is just not how I like. It’s just not how I think.

180 00:15:25.840 00:15:32.540 Uttam Kumaran: So. I wanna like, Have Chat Gbt, basically help to take like my like 2 min spiel about what we did for a client.

181 00:15:32.710 00:15:38.070 Uttam Kumaran: and just format it into this way, and I and I, and then we come in. And we can make it a little bit like sexier. Basically.

182 00:15:38.370 00:15:42.120 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, so, but basically, for all case studies, you want, like.

183 00:15:42.120 00:15:42.870 Uttam Kumaran: Like this, so.

184 00:15:42.870 00:15:45.130 JARED PATTERSON: Solution results for

185 00:15:45.250 00:15:46.249 JARED PATTERSON: and like, you would just write.

186 00:15:46.250 00:15:46.700 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

187 00:15:46.700 00:15:48.740 JARED PATTERSON: The prompt, based on the transcript.

188 00:15:49.340 00:15:52.690 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So like, you think one prompt can probably get us all this.

189 00:15:53.740 00:15:55.799 JARED PATTERSON: I think so as long as you’re just like.

190 00:15:57.080 00:15:59.549 JARED PATTERSON: kinda really specific on, like, okay.

191 00:15:59.550 00:16:00.130 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, I’m.

192 00:16:00.130 00:16:01.289 JARED PATTERSON: I would just say, like

193 00:16:01.410 00:16:03.630 JARED PATTERSON: looking to create a case study

194 00:16:04.140 00:16:09.960 JARED PATTERSON: based on a transcript. This is the areas I’m looking for inside case study. I’m about the company.

195 00:16:09.970 00:16:11.240 JARED PATTERSON: the challenge.

196 00:16:11.240 00:16:13.010 Uttam Kumaran: Slide out, and then we can keep editing the prompting.

197 00:16:13.010 00:16:22.190 JARED PATTERSON: Right? Right? That’s and that’s kind of how I always did. It is just like, Okay, I like what this is saying. But I’d also want it to to tweak this. So you go back. You change the prompt and redo the whole thing.

198 00:16:23.550 00:16:28.349 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So why don’t? Today I’m gonna I’ll I’ll just record a little bit of like a

199 00:16:28.590 00:16:29.829 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll record a

200 00:16:30.120 00:16:32.740 Uttam Kumaran: one case study and then one service.

201 00:16:33.040 00:16:50.520 Uttam Kumaran: and then maybe just hand it to you to say like, See if you could get it to fit one of these, I all these images are like placeholder images. So don’t worry too much for the images I’m gonna have I? I have a friend who’s a designer, a friend who can help us like, think about what image or we can basically take the images of the Logos or stuff like that. But

202 00:16:50.900 00:16:57.019 Uttam Kumaran: maybe that’s what we start with is like, I’m gonna I’m just gonna record a a case, study one and a service one

203 00:16:57.110 00:17:01.410 Uttam Kumaran: and then basically hand it to you. It’ll just be text. And then, if you can use that text

204 00:17:01.500 00:17:05.549 Uttam Kumaran: to just plug it into Chat Gbt and refine it until you basically get the prompt

205 00:17:05.880 00:17:07.170 Uttam Kumaran: to spit these out.

206 00:17:07.880 00:17:11.329 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, and I mean it’ll it’ll be like, it’ll just be like

207 00:17:11.369 00:17:14.679 JARED PATTERSON: a regular kind of like text output. But I’ll just like.

208 00:17:14.680 00:17:15.040 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

209 00:17:15.040 00:17:17.420 JARED PATTERSON: Ideally, I would just copy and paste them in there right.

210 00:17:17.819 00:17:27.349 Uttam Kumaran: Totally. No, that’s exactly it. Cause cause the process of us copying and pasting it into here is is what I want like I want. I want us to think like we could basically move that to a notion, Doc.

211 00:17:27.800 00:17:28.380 JARED PATTERSON: Continue to.

212 00:17:28.380 00:17:32.089 Uttam Kumaran: Like, tweak it maybe for like an hour or 2, and then basically publish it.

213 00:17:32.430 00:17:51.810 Uttam Kumaran: That process is so much faster than me like doing one of these for every single one I could talk. I can talk into a mic and talk about this. But it’s actually getting it from there to here is is difficulty. So I think if you can help me do that, that would be like amazing. And then so I’m actually so I’ll actually let me invite you to

214 00:17:52.210 00:17:54.330 Uttam Kumaran: our chat. Gbt, like team

215 00:17:55.010 00:17:57.959 Uttam Kumaran: with your brain forge email. So you can just use that

216 00:18:00.536 00:18:04.700 Uttam Kumaran: and then that way you’ll have like the pro version.

217 00:18:05.640 00:18:11.180 Uttam Kumaran: And then we can also, yeah, that way. You’ll have the pro version. And then you know how you can create like Gpts on here.

218 00:18:12.917 00:18:19.610 JARED PATTERSON: I’ve actually never done it. But I did like after we talked when I was in Florida, and you kind of had kind of mentioned.

219 00:18:19.610 00:18:19.980 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

220 00:18:19.980 00:18:24.840 JARED PATTERSON: Gbts through Chat Gb, I I did like look into it a little bit. It seems pretty like it’s.

221 00:18:24.840 00:18:25.730 Uttam Kumaran: Guidance.

222 00:18:26.620 00:18:28.670 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s kind of basic. But

223 00:18:29.290 00:18:34.619 Uttam Kumaran: I think, like, maybe if we get the prompt perfectly, we could just like turn it into Gpt. And have it for our team, you know.

224 00:18:35.410 00:18:38.939 JARED PATTERSON: Is it essentially just like automated, like, it’s just kind of.

225 00:18:39.260 00:18:43.829 Uttam Kumaran: How long you just don’t have to type the prompt in. You just don’t have to type the prompt in every time.

226 00:18:43.830 00:18:44.570 JARED PATTERSON: Okay.

227 00:18:44.923 00:18:48.456 Uttam Kumaran: But actually here, I’ll show you a couple of other

228 00:18:49.990 00:18:53.505 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll show you a couple of other like interesting AI sites. I’m just gonna put

229 00:18:53.920 00:18:55.120 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna

230 00:18:56.640 00:19:02.540 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna put them on this sales thoughts. You could take a look. Sorry. This is kind of getting disorganized. But.

231 00:19:02.780 00:19:03.429 JARED PATTERSON: No, it’s all good.

232 00:19:12.080 00:19:20.489 Uttam Kumaran: So there’s this thing called flow wise. And there’s this thing called Agent Hub, which is basically like you, can you? There’s these like AI tools, basically kind of like drag and drop.

233 00:19:20.680 00:19:32.290 Uttam Kumaran: And you can kind of like stitch things together. I think ultimately, we can probably create, like an agent hub flow or a flow. Wise flow where basically, like, I put put in like a transcript. And it basically just outputs like

234 00:19:32.320 00:19:34.640 Uttam Kumaran: each individual piece we need for this.

235 00:19:34.640 00:19:35.060 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.

236 00:19:35.060 00:19:37.969 Uttam Kumaran: I think we could probably get 80% of there just through chatt. And then.

237 00:19:38.392 00:19:42.639 Uttam Kumaran: basically, this would just help me hand this to like other people on the team so that they can do it.

238 00:19:43.190 00:19:43.815 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah,

239 00:19:46.220 00:19:47.230 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.

240 00:19:48.527 00:19:49.042 JARED PATTERSON: Makes sense.

241 00:20:08.967 00:20:22.589 Uttam Kumaran: So like, maybe we start with that. I think that’s the big thing. Other things. Maybe we have. Some time. I’ll kind of. I just wanna walk you through the figma, and then kind of continue just to give you a little bit more context into how I’m thinking about sales, especially

242 00:20:23.266 00:20:28.673 Uttam Kumaran: how I’m thinking about it now is a little bit different than what’s in that sales strategy signal. But if you wanna open that up.

243 00:20:29.040 00:20:29.615 Uttam Kumaran: yeah,

244 00:20:41.270 00:20:44.899 Uttam Kumaran: yeah. And if you so if you click on my my like

245 00:20:45.190 00:20:46.020 Uttam Kumaran: that, you.

246 00:20:46.020 00:20:46.360 JARED PATTERSON: Oh, yeah.

247 00:20:46.360 00:20:48.030 Uttam Kumaran: My icon, you can follow me.

248 00:20:48.290 00:21:01.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yup, okay, great. And so basically, I’ll just rehash this. But I’m sure it’s really self explanatory, just like we have awareness, which is basically like getting people aware of brain forge. We have outreach, which is like

249 00:21:01.610 00:21:05.849 Uttam Kumaran: basically getting directly hitting people and trying to get them to book meetings.

250 00:21:06.630 00:21:13.480 Uttam Kumaran: This qualification is like in the meeting. How do I know if they’re gonna be a good client or not? And then how? What’s the process to close

251 00:21:13.550 00:21:14.770 Uttam Kumaran: close them?

252 00:21:14.820 00:21:18.430 Uttam Kumaran: And then basically set up onboarding service and then expanding.

253 00:21:18.570 00:21:23.280 Uttam Kumaran: I would say, we are good at onboarding and servicing.

254 00:21:23.600 00:21:31.119 Uttam Kumaran: We are good on renewal and expansion, but kind of lucky there. And we are also lucky at Outreach. We’re doing no awareness.

255 00:21:31.590 00:21:40.030 Uttam Kumaran: And I, we’re doing okay. Qualification. But so really is like, I want to spend a ton of time. I want to spend our 1st push

256 00:21:40.130 00:21:41.005 Uttam Kumaran: on

257 00:21:42.190 00:21:43.710 Uttam Kumaran: outreach and awareness.

258 00:21:44.660 00:21:52.950 Uttam Kumaran: the kind of the thinking there is like. We can only take on one or 2 of these like pieces of the pie at one time, and I would rather be overwhelmed with

259 00:21:53.253 00:21:57.349 Uttam Kumaran: now that I kind of know that we can take on clients and service them.

260 00:21:57.390 00:22:01.349 Uttam Kumaran: it’s like, okay, we need to get more people in that being said

261 00:22:01.380 00:22:16.599 Uttam Kumaran: like, we need to make sure the websites really great, we need to make sure that there’s collateral. And then we’re gonna I’m gonna start working on like my own Linkedin, and kind of like pushing things out. The additional thing is like, I’m I have like probably 30 or 40 people

262 00:22:16.640 00:22:24.240 Uttam Kumaran: that I need to like that. I’m that I’m basically gonna be talking to every day or every other day for the next like month or 2 to just try to pitch

263 00:22:24.572 00:22:30.509 Uttam Kumaran: and that’s gonna give us a lot of learning. But at the same time I wanna make sure that we have

264 00:22:30.750 00:22:43.379 Uttam Kumaran: any sort of collateral that we need to kind of close them, or at least when they when I’m getting in front of them and they go to the website. They can quickly understand what we’re doing right? It’s actually went to what you were saying last time, which is like

265 00:22:43.410 00:22:44.610 Uttam Kumaran: in English.

266 00:22:44.990 00:22:58.470 Uttam Kumaran: How does how do they know what we’re doing. And I think our website’s okay. I think we could even go further. So me, me and your brains need to be solely focused on? Does the website of a clear value proposition on what we do?

267 00:22:58.580 00:22:59.699 Uttam Kumaran: And then

268 00:23:00.350 00:23:05.759 Uttam Kumaran: are we seeing that value proposition work because people are booking meetings with me?

269 00:23:06.210 00:23:06.580 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.

270 00:23:06.580 00:23:20.050 Uttam Kumaran: Right. If if there’s only couple of people going to the website, that’s fine, because my job is going to be to get some more people going to website. But if none of those people are end up booking meetings with me, then there is a problem. So this 1st push, I really wanna focus on getting the website super straight.

271 00:23:20.100 00:23:27.880 Uttam Kumaran: And then basically having, like all of our collateral collateral ready? So that what I do, what I am in front of people.

272 00:23:27.910 00:23:33.510 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s say, let’s say, talk to someone who’s in healthcare, and we don’t have materials in in 24 h. Can we put together

273 00:23:33.600 00:23:44.969 Uttam Kumaran: a blog post. And can we put together a case, study page and like materials for that? Right? That’s the kind of like iteration cycle I want to think about because we’re not. We’re not ever gonna have everything ready. But

274 00:23:45.160 00:23:55.377 Uttam Kumaran: it can’t be a week between me getting back to that person with stuff like we’ve we’ve impacted businesses like them. So that’s why I wanna think about having a sort of AI automation sort of stuff.

275 00:23:55.930 00:24:00.990 JARED PATTERSON: So it can just be a quick like turnaround to get those deliverables over them, like the case studies and stuff like that.

276 00:24:00.990 00:24:04.679 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, exactly. So I’m actually just gonna change these like.

277 00:24:05.060 00:24:08.777 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna change these circles to mainly look at

278 00:24:09.280 00:24:12.369 Uttam Kumaran: the website and the brand of collateral. So our

279 00:24:12.550 00:24:17.079 Uttam Kumaran: our goal this month is like, I want to check these off that like these are in a good place.

280 00:24:17.330 00:24:21.950 Uttam Kumaran: that the websites in a great place, and the branded collateral is a great place, and we’ll start there.

281 00:24:22.000 00:24:40.120 Uttam Kumaran: The other things that I’m going after is my, it’s in the notion, which is, I’m looking at co-marketing. So evidence, rail, intelligence, these are all other tools that we use that are down to do co-marketing with us basically post about us do articles with us.

282 00:24:41.400 00:24:45.390 Uttam Kumaran: I I don’t know if you were able to watch that talk with Robert, but Robert

283 00:24:45.400 00:24:51.739 Uttam Kumaran: owns an analytics agency. That’s kind of like works in the analysis side, and he wants to do some co-marketing with us.

284 00:24:51.850 00:25:00.089 Uttam Kumaran: So like I, the next thing that I want to move to is basically looking at these referral partnerships and partnering with other agencies.

285 00:25:00.659 00:25:02.609 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna make this

286 00:25:02.990 00:25:06.640 Uttam Kumaran: like, I’ll actually let’s do this. I’m gonna make this.

287 00:25:07.510 00:25:09.059 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna make this a

288 00:25:10.270 00:25:10.960 Uttam Kumaran: oh.

289 00:25:11.750 00:25:13.800 Uttam Kumaran: a purple for next.

290 00:25:18.590 00:25:21.770 Uttam Kumaran: because these are all warm, meaning like

291 00:25:22.320 00:25:23.680 Uttam Kumaran: they can.

292 00:25:24.010 00:25:34.590 Uttam Kumaran: they’re they’re gonna help us get sales and basically use their marketing dollars for us, and kind of do some co marketing. So these are the thing. These are the next 4. I want to work on.

293 00:25:35.022 00:25:47.629 Uttam Kumaran: And these are the 2 I want to start with. I think hopefully, with these, with these 2. If we work on that, we’ll we’ll have gone through every case study and every service. So you’ll have a really good understanding of everything that we’ve done and can do.

294 00:25:47.920 00:25:53.230 Uttam Kumaran: And then we can strategically talk about how we want to do things with each of these companies.

295 00:25:53.370 00:25:57.329 Uttam Kumaran: The things that’s difficult is like when we start talking to these companies.

296 00:25:57.590 00:26:01.450 Uttam Kumaran: things have to move in like a pace. That’s like a week or a few day turnaround.

297 00:26:01.800 00:26:11.040 Uttam Kumaran: That’s why I really want to have like you up to speed on everything we can do. And like, I’m an understanding of collateral because I want to start including you on on those 3 types of things. So.

298 00:26:11.600 00:26:12.290 JARED PATTERSON: Oh, guy.

299 00:26:12.430 00:26:14.318 JARED PATTERSON: yeah, no, that works.

300 00:26:15.600 00:26:17.599 JARED PATTERSON: I guess, like today. Then I just

301 00:26:17.820 00:26:20.979 JARED PATTERSON: really focus on the

302 00:26:21.880 00:26:28.069 JARED PATTERSON: the case study stuff. And I mean. If you can get that over to me, you can get over me otherwise tomorrow I can also work on it.

303 00:26:28.640 00:26:37.990 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll have it over. I’ll have it over to you today. You you already have the previous ones. And then I’m gonna just make sure, there’s a Google drive folder

304 00:26:38.030 00:26:41.380 Uttam Kumaran: somewhere where we can basically throw all this in

305 00:26:41.410 00:26:42.829 Uttam Kumaran: so it doesn’t get lost.

306 00:26:43.560 00:26:44.170 JARED PATTERSON: Cat.

307 00:26:44.800 00:26:51.169 Uttam Kumaran: And then, right while we’re on the call, let me just make sure that this chat. Jp. That you’re going to be able to get into the chat. Jp.

308 00:26:56.530 00:27:03.790 JARED PATTERSON: And then what would you rather like? Would you like me to just whatever chashb outputs like? Throw that in like a notion, Doc, or.

309 00:27:04.120 00:27:08.086 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think I think if you could throw that to a notion, Doc,

310 00:27:09.940 00:27:12.609 Uttam Kumaran: that seems best, because that way.

311 00:27:12.710 00:27:15.270 Uttam Kumaran: that way, if we wanna make changes.

312 00:27:15.280 00:27:17.819 Uttam Kumaran: We can put in the notion, Doc. And then

313 00:27:18.130 00:27:23.199 Uttam Kumaran: the way I create the Pdf is, you just create a copy and figma, and then we can export to a Pdf.

314 00:27:23.360 00:27:26.230 Uttam Kumaran: But, Sigma, I don’t want it to hold like

315 00:27:27.170 00:27:28.520 Uttam Kumaran: all that stuff.

316 00:27:29.280 00:27:29.780 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.

317 00:27:29.780 00:27:34.539 Uttam Kumaran: I want it to be somewhere where we can copy and paste it, because again, I wanna reuse that for like other content. So

318 00:27:34.560 00:27:38.830 Uttam Kumaran: I think. Just throw it in notion somewhere, probably underneath sales you. Just

319 00:27:39.300 00:27:44.400 Uttam Kumaran: we can reorganize this all whenever I just want to make it super easy for us to just get going on one of these.

320 00:27:50.050 00:27:56.219 Uttam Kumaran: And then how is your like schedule like this week? Cause I have a ton of time.

321 00:27:56.450 00:27:57.849 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m gonna be

322 00:27:58.040 00:27:59.790 Uttam Kumaran: basically trying to spend

323 00:28:00.030 00:28:02.130 Uttam Kumaran: most of my afternoons

324 00:28:02.350 00:28:06.000 Uttam Kumaran: potentially, even like all day Wednesday on like this sort of stuff.

325 00:28:07.640 00:28:13.860 Uttam Kumaran: so I actually should be able to even like, hop on for maybe like an hour or 2 certain days. But let me know what your schedule is like.

326 00:28:14.560 00:28:18.785 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, honestly. So tomorrow

327 00:28:20.390 00:28:26.076 JARED PATTERSON: I’m trying to figure out my brother needs my help, like with his business, too. So I’m trying to figure out a day. I can help him out.

328 00:28:26.300 00:28:30.709 JARED PATTERSON: But what day did you say would work best for like for you to hop on for a couple of.

329 00:28:31.310 00:28:31.909 Uttam Kumaran: That.

330 00:28:31.910 00:28:35.251 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I see I could probably do that and make that work

331 00:28:35.650 00:28:39.740 JARED PATTERSON: ideally. It’s a day that you know. We can both work on it together. So it’s like.

332 00:28:39.740 00:28:42.175 Uttam Kumaran: No, that. That’s what I wanna do.

333 00:28:42.480 00:28:43.190 JARED PATTERSON: Like, I want to just meet.

334 00:28:43.190 00:28:47.700 Uttam Kumaran: Do you hop on a zoom? And just basically like, try to like, talk through and crake these things out

335 00:28:48.280 00:28:50.680 Uttam Kumaran: for a few hours like. I think that’ll be best.

336 00:28:51.840 00:28:56.950 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah. So Wednesday probably works for me to do that then, and then.

337 00:28:56.950 00:28:58.799 Uttam Kumaran: Like, is Wednesday morning. Okay.

338 00:28:59.350 00:29:01.519 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, no, that’s fine. Wednesday morning’s fine.

339 00:29:01.900 00:29:03.730 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, then I’m just gonna put a block

340 00:29:08.040 00:29:10.190 Uttam Kumaran: and then let’s crank on this, though.

341 00:29:18.930 00:29:38.180 Uttam Kumaran: Great. And I, yeah, I’m basically switching into like thinking so much more about like sales strategy stuff. So I’m gonna be throwing a ton of notes into that meeting. The other thing is, if you haven’t watched that watch that call with Robert, because it’s kinda good to think about how we wanna do strategy with some of these other sort of consultancies.

342 00:29:38.240 00:29:43.879 Uttam Kumaran: which is one thing that we’re gonna I’m gonna be talking to you about like, wh where do you think there’s opportunity?

343 00:29:45.550 00:29:51.650 Uttam Kumaran: because what I’m thinking about doing is if we’re able to partner with Robert, I’m also going to basically take.

344 00:29:51.950 00:29:58.290 Uttam Kumaran: that’s kind of like, whatever Robert and us agree to. I’m basically gonna go, try, pitch other consultancies that, as well.

345 00:29:59.750 00:30:02.372 JARED PATTERSON: Okay, yeah, no. That makes sense.

346 00:30:02.810 00:30:03.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

347 00:30:03.960 00:30:08.659 JARED PATTERSON: And what time did you have? Did you send a calendar invite for Wednesday, or should I just make one here? I’m out.

348 00:30:09.074 00:30:10.730 Uttam Kumaran: I just sent one.

349 00:30:10.910 00:30:13.701 JARED PATTERSON: Okay, it’s coming through here.

350 00:30:15.530 00:30:21.469 JARED PATTERSON: okay, just got it. Yeah. I I haven’t got a chance to watch yet. I was actually gonna do that today?

351 00:30:21.740 00:30:22.639 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Good. Call forward.

352 00:30:22.640 00:30:26.689 JARED PATTERSON: Watch it. I wasn’t sure. I know you said you might throw some like

353 00:30:27.639 00:30:30.289 JARED PATTERSON: past pitches that you’ve recorded.

354 00:30:30.610 00:30:30.990 JARED PATTERSON: Where.

355 00:30:30.990 00:30:31.540 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.

356 00:30:31.700 00:30:33.389 Uttam Kumaran: that’s also not.

357 00:30:33.390 00:30:34.080 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.

358 00:30:36.190 00:30:42.079 JARED PATTERSON: yeah. Cause I I do want to watch those. I think it’s important kind of to hear how you pitch the business. And then

359 00:30:42.370 00:30:43.310 JARED PATTERSON: I was gonna walk.

360 00:30:43.310 00:30:47.109 Uttam Kumaran: But I wanna hear Feedback, too, like I wanna know what you think about

361 00:30:47.270 00:30:50.089 Uttam Kumaran: the way I’m kind of articulating it. It’s changed

362 00:30:50.100 00:30:52.010 Uttam Kumaran: over time. But I will.

363 00:30:52.110 00:30:55.640 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s just do that right now. I’m gonna go grab some of those.

364 00:33:07.220 00:33:13.300 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. I shared one. I’m I’m gonna have to find out where there’s a couple of others, because sometimes I don’t do these.

365 00:33:13.990 00:33:20.900 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t. How do these on my zoom? Because they usually send me a zoom, but I’ll look, but there’s 1 that I sent that should be good. That was a recent one.

366 00:33:23.130 00:33:24.689 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, I got it perfect.

367 00:33:24.690 00:33:25.215 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

368 00:33:43.690 00:33:49.479 Uttam Kumaran: okay, cool. So let me let me work on getting you just like 2 recordings for that, and then let’s

369 00:33:49.935 00:34:03.450 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll send that to you today, and then just play around. Let me know what you’re seeing. Sign up for. Sign up for Chat Gbt, just with your brain for Gmail, and then let me know if you need. You could just feel free to sign up for

370 00:34:03.600 00:34:07.250 Uttam Kumaran: like I’m trying to do. See if I can just put you under mine, but

371 00:34:07.360 00:34:10.399 Uttam Kumaran: looks like we may need to sign up for like an annual plan.

372 00:34:11.244 00:34:15.759 JARED PATTERSON: I I might be able to get it all right without like the need for

373 00:34:17.089 00:34:18.299 JARED PATTERSON: the pro one.

374 00:34:18.780 00:34:22.129 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, try. I mean the Gp, 2, 4 0 is really, really good.

375 00:34:24.620 00:34:26.040 Uttam Kumaran: So

376 00:34:26.449 00:34:27.530 Uttam Kumaran: do need it.

377 00:34:28.080 00:34:29.369 Uttam Kumaran: Let me know.

378 00:34:30.290 00:34:30.920 JARED PATTERSON: All right.

379 00:34:32.110 00:34:38.089 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, if you could find a way to send, that’d be perfect cause I think it is like a bit better. But it’s also not the end of the world. If I just, I’m just.

380 00:34:38.090 00:34:38.460 Uttam Kumaran: Guys.

381 00:34:38.469 00:34:39.381 JARED PATTERSON: And I’ll let they

382 00:34:40.090 00:34:44.826 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, sign up, and then just try it out and then let me know if it’s if you. If you need it, I’ll I’ll send you a card.

383 00:34:45.440 00:34:46.090 JARED PATTERSON: Okay.

384 00:34:47.659 00:34:48.199 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

385 00:34:48.580 00:34:52.900 Uttam Kumaran: alright cool dude. I’ll talk to you probably later today in slack.

386 00:34:53.400 00:34:56.909 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, sounds good. Actually curious. I was gonna ask about

387 00:34:58.383 00:35:07.010 JARED PATTERSON: So like for us interns, it would you suggest like, do you want us putting stuff on our linkedin about like like they were, you know, working the summer here. How how do you wanna do.

388 00:35:07.010 00:35:08.910 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, that I mean. So the

389 00:35:09.390 00:35:17.149 Uttam Kumaran: that would be amazing. I mean, I was honestly probably hoping that, like as fun as soon as we get the website and everything running. I was gonna have each of you guys

390 00:35:17.817 00:35:28.720 Uttam Kumaran: do a little bit of a post because I was gonna have the rest of the team also post about it. So I mean, that’s kind of ideally what I wanna get this case studies and stuff basically out for. So that when you guys post

391 00:35:28.950 00:35:33.335 Uttam Kumaran: that you guys are doing work for us, you have somewhere to direct traffic to

392 00:35:34.420 00:35:37.419 Uttam Kumaran: So that was my hope. But I yeah, I don’t mind at all.

393 00:35:37.820 00:35:45.553 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah, no, that’s that’s perfect. I can wait. Then I just wasn’t sure if you’d given any thought to like what you wanted us to kinda have on there.

394 00:35:45.820 00:35:49.940 Uttam Kumaran: Not, but but actually like kind of that was part of like what I wanted the whole team to basically

395 00:35:50.120 00:35:53.559 Uttam Kumaran: think about doing a push on Linkedin to basically just try to get

396 00:35:53.650 00:36:00.235 Uttam Kumaran: people to the website, which is that’d be part of like, partly like you guys adding it to your linkedin as well as

397 00:36:00.907 00:36:07.739 Uttam Kumaran: each of the people on the team posting it, because the one thing about posting on Linkedin is you have a bunch fuel post. They’ll get a lot of momentum.

398 00:36:07.890 00:36:13.519 Uttam Kumaran: and then the site will just get like a lot more traffic. And then, ideally, we have a site filled with content.

399 00:36:13.780 00:36:14.470 Uttam Kumaran: so that, like.

400 00:36:14.470 00:36:14.990 JARED PATTERSON: Yeah.

401 00:36:14.990 00:36:20.849 Uttam Kumaran: People can start reaching out. So that’s what my hope is. But hopefully, in the next 2 weeks, if we kind of push on this, I think we’ll be there.

402 00:36:24.370 00:36:25.220 JARED PATTERSON: Sounds good.

403 00:36:27.230 00:36:30.419 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool, alright. Well, slack me if you need anything.

404 00:36:30.760 00:36:32.110 JARED PATTERSON: Sounds good. Thank you.

405 00:36:32.440 00:36:34.939 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, thanks, Jared! Bye, bye.