Meeting Title: Uttam <> Brian Date: 2024-06-07 Meeting participants: Bp, Nicolas Sucari, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:01:52.830 ⇒ 00:01:53.250 Nicolas Sucari: Hey!
2 00:01:53.539 ⇒ 00:01:53.829 Uttam Kumaran: Hip!
3 00:02:05.660 ⇒ 00:02:06.350 Uttam Kumaran: I’m.
4 00:03:44.070 ⇒ 00:03:46.010 BP: Swerve! Hello! Hello!
5 00:03:46.480 ⇒ 00:03:47.660 Uttam Kumaran: Hello!
6 00:03:48.445 ⇒ 00:03:48.839 Nicolas Sucari: Brian.
7 00:04:04.520 ⇒ 00:04:05.400 BP: Hello!
8 00:04:05.950 ⇒ 00:04:06.940 Nicolas Sucari: Hi, Brian!
9 00:04:07.170 ⇒ 00:04:07.910 Nicolas Sucari: Can you hear us?
10 00:04:07.910 ⇒ 00:04:08.590 BP: Hey?
11 00:04:08.960 ⇒ 00:04:10.259 BP: Yeah, I can hear you.
12 00:04:11.380 ⇒ 00:04:12.429 Nicolas Sucari: Nice to meet you.
13 00:04:13.260 ⇒ 00:04:14.290 Uttam Kumaran: Morning. You man!
14 00:04:14.970 ⇒ 00:04:15.560 BP: Morning?
15 00:04:17.250 ⇒ 00:04:18.289 BP: What’s up?
16 00:04:22.860 ⇒ 00:04:24.443 Uttam Kumaran: Your video is cutting in and out.
17 00:04:27.654 ⇒ 00:04:30.389 BP: It keeps disconnecting me.
18 00:04:32.080 ⇒ 00:04:33.410 Uttam Kumaran: Is your cord plugged in?
19 00:05:28.420 ⇒ 00:05:30.270 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? So he’s reinstalling zoom.
20 00:05:31.720 ⇒ 00:05:32.400 Nicolas Sucari: See.
21 00:05:41.880 ⇒ 00:05:43.560 brianpei2: Okay, I’m back.
22 00:05:46.260 ⇒ 00:05:47.959 brianpei2: I think I’m good now.
23 00:05:50.080 ⇒ 00:05:50.580 brianpei2: Oh.
24 00:05:51.700 ⇒ 00:05:52.920 Uttam Kumaran: Well welcome! Back!
25 00:05:53.500 ⇒ 00:05:54.420 brianpei2: What’s up?
26 00:05:55.833 ⇒ 00:06:00.269 Uttam Kumaran: I think we can just jump right into stuff. I guess I wanted to introduce you to Nico. Nico
27 00:06:00.320 ⇒ 00:06:09.960 Uttam Kumaran: is leading project management. Basically handling everything from like day to day, which is
28 00:06:10.935 ⇒ 00:06:11.700 Uttam Kumaran: like
29 00:06:11.960 ⇒ 00:06:18.369 Uttam Kumaran: ticket scoping like assigning stuff to folks like meetings. But then also kind of owning client. Comms.
30 00:06:18.760 ⇒ 00:06:27.179 Uttam Kumaran: so Nico has been email, this is maybe the 3rd week but also already a lot of different stuff we’ve been working on. So it’s been really great.
31 00:06:27.950 ⇒ 00:06:28.800 brianpei2: Cool and.
32 00:06:28.800 ⇒ 00:06:37.870 Uttam Kumaran: I kind of given him the lowdown on. I mean, he’s aware of all the clients. And basically we have a little bit of a new strategy about how we’re
33 00:06:38.433 ⇒ 00:06:46.656 Uttam Kumaran: kind of bringing people assigning people to each client and have a little bit more context on
34 00:06:47.580 ⇒ 00:06:50.519 Uttam Kumaran: like senior versus junior people and kind of what we need.
35 00:06:50.670 ⇒ 00:06:55.679 Uttam Kumaran: The basic motivation for. This is like, I need to be
36 00:06:56.110 ⇒ 00:07:03.569 Uttam Kumaran: going and doing sales, like most, like at least half a day especially this month, and next month.
37 00:07:04.017 ⇒ 00:07:04.580 brianpei2: And so forth.
38 00:07:04.580 ⇒ 00:07:21.159 Uttam Kumaran: Parts. We basically reached the point where there’s a lot more modeling stuff than I can handle. However, we have a pretty good roadmap with them that we’re confirming, and still a bunch of work getting done. And so I think it’s like
39 00:07:21.200 ⇒ 00:07:31.066 Uttam Kumaran: probably a great opportunity to bring you on the kind of the goal overall that we’re thinking is,
40 00:07:32.110 ⇒ 00:07:34.900 Uttam Kumaran: we’re kind of having it. Gonna have a notion of
41 00:07:35.696 ⇒ 00:07:41.530 Uttam Kumaran: senior analysts like senior Aes and like Senior De’s. And basically each
42 00:07:41.870 ⇒ 00:07:45.009 Uttam Kumaran: is like ideally able to handle
43 00:07:45.350 ⇒ 00:07:52.080 Uttam Kumaran: anywhere from one to 3 clients each on the data engineering side. This is mainly like setting up Snowflake.
44 00:07:52.110 ⇒ 00:07:54.280 Uttam Kumaran: setting up like Dbt.
45 00:07:54.330 ⇒ 00:08:00.030 Uttam Kumaran: handling 5 tran so ideally. Those folks can handle probably like 3
46 00:08:00.290 ⇒ 00:08:09.120 Uttam Kumaran: clients simultaneously, because it’s usually not a lot of that sort of work on the Senior Ae. Side. It’s probably like 2 clients
47 00:08:09.130 ⇒ 00:08:12.669 Uttam Kumaran: like, I think, beyond that, it’s a little bit tough unless
48 00:08:12.680 ⇒ 00:08:16.350 Uttam Kumaran: one client really doesn’t need much. And it’s more analysis.
49 00:08:16.380 ⇒ 00:08:17.579 Uttam Kumaran: And then each
50 00:08:17.770 ⇒ 00:08:20.619 Uttam Kumaran: client also has, like a senior analyst.
51 00:08:20.650 ⇒ 00:08:23.329 Uttam Kumaran: That person basically handles any like
52 00:08:24.070 ⇒ 00:08:31.329 Uttam Kumaran: why question like, why not like? Why is this data stale? But more like, why is this number up or like?
53 00:08:31.460 ⇒ 00:08:46.249 Uttam Kumaran: Why is our business acting like Xyz, also setting up bi tools and and biz, so that gives hopefully, like a little bit of also like sla between all 3 of those like. Probably the shortest Sla is like on the analyst side.
54 00:08:46.310 ⇒ 00:08:49.020 Uttam Kumaran: the longest slaves on the D side
55 00:08:49.030 ⇒ 00:09:03.859 Uttam Kumaran: and then across the board. Everybody is gonna have, like pretty like fleshed out requirements in terms of like what everybody’s working on for pool parts. We currently are gonna have, like 3
56 00:09:03.990 ⇒ 00:09:20.529 Uttam Kumaran: basically senior people associated with that one senior analyst name is Jacob, who you’ll you’ll meet you on the Ae. Side. And then we have one person working on the de side, basically for anything around pipelining new Apis things like that.
57 00:09:21.398 ⇒ 00:09:33.539 Uttam Kumaran: For example, like for some of the pool parts like shipping providers. We’ve had to write rest Apis directly in Snow Park. That person basically handles that. And then making sure that that table has everything you need.
58 00:09:33.720 ⇒ 00:09:43.090 Uttam Kumaran: And then you’re working either directly for analysts or just roughly on the old, the whole Dbt structure. For pool parts. We’re kind of gonna
59 00:09:43.410 ⇒ 00:09:51.419 Uttam Kumaran: have a little bit of a conversation about what the hourly amounts we have are at the moment we’re currently booked for like 30 HA week.
60 00:09:52.048 ⇒ 00:10:00.120 Uttam Kumaran: That’s split between like 2 workflows, kind of like data vis and everything like on an analysis side.
61 00:10:00.470 ⇒ 00:10:07.920 Uttam Kumaran: we’re definitely working, probably more than that and then none of this. I’m including me, even though, like I’m definitely helping out
62 00:10:08.541 ⇒ 00:10:12.719 Uttam Kumaran: but we’re gonna have a conversation with them about what the splits are.
63 00:10:13.546 ⇒ 00:10:17.520 Uttam Kumaran: Ideally, it’s a it’s a minimum. 10 h
64 00:10:18.287 ⇒ 00:10:23.623 Uttam Kumaran: perhaps more for the ae and the
65 00:10:24.898 ⇒ 00:10:30.161 Uttam Kumaran: analyst slot. So at least for for pool parts you can expect
66 00:10:30.700 ⇒ 00:10:32.430 Uttam Kumaran: like 10 HA week.
67 00:10:33.010 ⇒ 00:10:33.930 Uttam Kumaran: And I
68 00:10:34.140 ⇒ 00:10:35.689 Uttam Kumaran: for this month.
69 00:10:35.720 ⇒ 00:10:39.250 Uttam Kumaran: like, I’m not trying to be too much of a stickler on like
70 00:10:39.460 ⇒ 00:10:53.759 Uttam Kumaran: only 10 h. Basically, it’s like, get the job done. However, like we’re gonna get. We’re getting a little bit closer. We’re getting a little bit tighter with the client on like, hey? If we’re working 30 HI want to make sure that we inform them like
71 00:10:54.220 ⇒ 00:10:57.399 Uttam Kumaran: this. We’re working 30 h. So their option is like.
72 00:10:57.750 ⇒ 00:11:01.920 Uttam Kumaran: either like, Give us more hours to be able to do it, or we extend timelines
73 00:11:01.980 ⇒ 00:11:04.240 Uttam Kumaran: and the kind of the way that, like
74 00:11:04.430 ⇒ 00:11:13.740 Uttam Kumaran: I talked to some people in this business, they were like the question you need to propose to people is like, would you rather us not have this done? Basically right? And so the goal for us is to
75 00:11:13.840 ⇒ 00:11:19.435 Uttam Kumaran: demonstrate value gets all this shit done. And basically, they’re like, of course, we’ll throw more hours your way.
76 00:11:21.830 ⇒ 00:11:28.159 Uttam Kumaran: and so that’s the rough goal. My time is gonna be spent a lot on getting us more clients.
77 00:11:28.290 ⇒ 00:11:34.600 Uttam Kumaran: So basically, I can fill up your time as much as you have right now. The 2.
78 00:11:34.991 ⇒ 00:11:39.659 Uttam Kumaran: It’s between you and Nick is kind of like senior folks, and of course, including me.
79 00:11:40.313 ⇒ 00:11:41.179 Uttam Kumaran: There are.
80 00:11:41.944 ⇒ 00:11:43.279 Uttam Kumaran: There’s 1 Junior
81 00:11:43.700 ⇒ 00:11:47.230 Uttam Kumaran: ae that I’m kinda gonna have.
82 00:11:47.520 ⇒ 00:12:00.230 Uttam Kumaran: We’re gonna kind of have a process by which we have everybody who’s a junior have a path towards becoming a senior, which is more about their skill set and their ability to handle a client on their own
83 00:12:00.290 ⇒ 00:12:05.160 Uttam Kumaran: right. Now, we have an like, an Ae, who’s okay, but
84 00:12:05.250 ⇒ 00:12:12.019 Uttam Kumaran: like certainly needs, like some more help, and like doing things. And the real problem he’s having is just doing things quickly.
85 00:12:12.552 ⇒ 00:12:19.859 Uttam Kumaran: You know. So part of this is gonna be having him kind of like work with you, and hopefully, like level up.
86 00:12:20.704 ⇒ 00:12:21.109 brianpei2: Ken.
87 00:12:21.320 ⇒ 00:12:23.709 Uttam Kumaran: We’re gonna constantly be trying to have
88 00:12:23.740 ⇒ 00:12:26.627 Uttam Kumaran: junior people come in and then basically try to graduate them.
89 00:12:26.950 ⇒ 00:12:33.930 Uttam Kumaran: However, there’s also need for people like us who just don’t blank and can get shit done like very seriously. And like, that’s
90 00:12:34.480 ⇒ 00:12:36.880 Uttam Kumaran: that’s always gonna exist, like.
91 00:12:37.080 ⇒ 00:12:43.649 Uttam Kumaran: if the junior people have to go. The junior people have to go. We we need to have, like the best town and people who can really take
92 00:12:43.820 ⇒ 00:12:49.448 Uttam Kumaran: limited requirements and just like, get it done kind of mindset
93 00:12:50.490 ⇒ 00:12:56.260 Uttam Kumaran: And so that’s the overall goal. I mean, any questions. And I can jump into like kind of what’s on
94 00:12:56.410 ⇒ 00:13:05.719 Uttam Kumaran: the roadmap or like what we’re like kind of working on. But I wanna get from you like your bandwidth for this stuff, and like what you think about all that, too. Cause
95 00:13:05.950 ⇒ 00:13:12.970 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, we’ve been involved in this sort of like role and understanding all that stuff. So let me know what you think.
96 00:13:14.760 ⇒ 00:13:16.780 brianpei2: would the junior ae be
97 00:13:16.920 ⇒ 00:13:21.939 brianpei2: shadowing me on pool parts, or you just mean like is reach out and
98 00:13:22.280 ⇒ 00:13:27.930 brianpei2: or just like put stuff in the slack channel so they can see like, Hey, look, I did this Pr. In 30 min, and you can.
99 00:13:28.576 ⇒ 00:13:32.129 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s like it’s like 2 things. One, it’s like.
100 00:13:32.660 ⇒ 00:13:33.680 Uttam Kumaran: How
101 00:13:33.700 ⇒ 00:13:36.949 Uttam Kumaran: how do we 3 work together to figure out
102 00:13:37.150 ⇒ 00:13:41.270 Uttam Kumaran: what a Junior Pearson is what a senior person is, and how we move someone up.
103 00:13:42.040 ⇒ 00:13:44.980 Uttam Kumaran: The second thing is for people that are junior.
104 00:13:45.428 ⇒ 00:13:47.419 Uttam Kumaran: What do they need most
105 00:13:47.880 ⇒ 00:13:55.459 Uttam Kumaran: to get them to that next level. Like, is it? Hey? I’m gonna handle the bigger tasks. You handle these smaller tasks. And then, like.
106 00:13:55.640 ⇒ 00:13:58.429 Uttam Kumaran: basically like, you can continue to give them more.
107 00:13:58.660 ⇒ 00:14:05.069 Uttam Kumaran: Or is it a shadowing thing? The thing I’m really nervous about is, I don’t want that person to become your burden.
108 00:14:06.211 ⇒ 00:14:11.479 Uttam Kumaran: And I don’t want I. The client is the number one here like that’s very clear, like we are. Our company
109 00:14:11.510 ⇒ 00:14:17.016 Uttam Kumaran: is second like we. We are here to serve whatever they need. But
110 00:14:17.670 ⇒ 00:14:26.360 Uttam Kumaran: a constant in the back of our mind. We have to be graduating and improving these folks cause like we’re gonna go. We’re gonna go after more clients. So like.
111 00:14:27.050 ⇒ 00:14:29.849 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, that’s the that’s the basic thing.
112 00:14:31.550 ⇒ 00:14:38.229 Uttam Kumaran: And so I want, I want those people to get more efficient. I want them to handle their own shit and as we get more clients I want
113 00:14:38.570 ⇒ 00:14:44.799 Uttam Kumaran: again. I’m if people can handle 3. I’m happy to give 3. I just think it’s like a good rule to say, like
114 00:14:44.870 ⇒ 00:14:48.960 Uttam Kumaran: Dee handles 3. Probably analysts can handle like one
115 00:14:49.499 ⇒ 00:14:52.820 Uttam Kumaran: and then Aes could probably handle 2 given like
116 00:14:52.870 ⇒ 00:14:54.530 Uttam Kumaran: the amount of context switching.
117 00:14:55.480 ⇒ 00:14:57.310 brianpei2: I think that’s fair
118 00:14:57.380 ⇒ 00:14:58.500 brianpei2: cause. I remember
119 00:14:58.870 ⇒ 00:15:00.040 brianpei2: I started.
120 00:15:00.570 ⇒ 00:15:03.200 brianpei2: I did a month of pool parts right in the beginning.
121 00:15:03.780 ⇒ 00:15:04.470 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
122 00:15:04.670 ⇒ 00:15:06.520 brianpei2: And it was.
123 00:15:07.520 ⇒ 00:15:12.719 brianpei2: I think you gave me the requirements, though I didn’t really meet with the client. But there’s a lot more
124 00:15:13.190 ⇒ 00:15:14.710 brianpei2: broad work.
125 00:15:14.800 ⇒ 00:15:26.951 brianpei2: So I think it was easier to just be like, well, they need sales. We’ve done that before now. It seems like it’s more specific now. So it’s maybe harder to fully understand what they need
126 00:15:27.500 ⇒ 00:15:30.520 brianpei2: and also back. Then I remember
127 00:15:31.131 ⇒ 00:15:33.479 brianpei2: and I guess this is what senior people do.
128 00:15:33.570 ⇒ 00:15:41.579 brianpei2: It’s like we can talk to. I don’t remember their names, but we can talk to the C. CEO and CTO. And I remember they’re like, Oh, we need. We need the
129 00:15:42.140 ⇒ 00:15:43.530 brianpei2: the shipping
130 00:15:43.680 ⇒ 00:15:45.969 brianpei2: costs by zone, by
131 00:15:46.130 ⇒ 00:15:49.690 brianpei2: by shipper, something like that. And then
132 00:15:50.590 ⇒ 00:15:53.850 brianpei2: I, with your help, I took that, and we
133 00:15:54.460 ⇒ 00:15:57.820 brianpei2: I don’t know if we implemented this, but like we did, it’s like
134 00:15:58.400 ⇒ 00:16:08.380 brianpei2: we had to make it incremental. We had to fill in some blanks. We had to Union. Everything together. We had to put it on on a workflow, or whatever. And those are things that
135 00:16:09.770 ⇒ 00:16:15.110 brianpei2: a senior should just know how to do if they’re junior. That means I,
136 00:16:15.130 ⇒ 00:16:18.819 brianpei2: even though the client doesn’t know what that means
137 00:16:19.080 ⇒ 00:16:20.710 brianpei2: for best data design
138 00:16:21.167 ⇒ 00:16:24.769 brianpei2: either. I come up with that and tell junior like
139 00:16:24.930 ⇒ 00:16:38.169 brianpei2: this is a difference between incremental snapshot this way, if we have to do union here and we have to. And these are the columns of the text, voicemail versus somebody who can just go in. And I think I looked that at that. And I was like, Oh, we have to do it this way, because we’ve we’ve done this times.
140 00:16:40.040 ⇒ 00:16:43.286 brianpei2: on what’s it called on on bandwidth.
141 00:16:43.900 ⇒ 00:16:50.229 brianpei2: I don’t know if Nicholas knows this or not. I just came off of Instacart. So I got I got 0.
142 00:16:50.550 ⇒ 00:16:51.690 brianpei2: I’m chilling.
143 00:16:51.740 ⇒ 00:16:54.289 brianpei2: So I mean, I can start with 10 h.
144 00:16:54.440 ⇒ 00:16:58.730 brianpei2: I think I’ll probably start with 10 h, anyway, because I talked to Nick a little bit about
145 00:16:58.930 ⇒ 00:17:03.110 brianpei2: cause you guys have already changed how you’re working for the better. I think
146 00:17:03.140 ⇒ 00:17:13.030 brianpei2: so. I can do 10 h, and then at the end of every week I can categorize exactly what I did to fit hours instead of when we 1st started. It was kind of just like I’ll just get it done.
147 00:17:13.470 ⇒ 00:17:14.990 brianpei2: Now that there’s a
148 00:17:15.648 ⇒ 00:17:19.710 brianpei2: focus on our optimization, I think, is what I would call it
149 00:17:20.073 ⇒ 00:17:22.060 brianpei2: I’ll do what Nick does and like.
150 00:17:22.290 ⇒ 00:17:23.805 brianpei2: update the channel
151 00:17:24.420 ⇒ 00:17:45.999 brianpei2: figure out what I’m doing. And then I think you said I also kind of have free rein to. If I see something that can can be optimized or fixed, or whatever I can just carve out time as long as I have a Pr. And the need, and how many hours, and it should be fine. But I’ll probably not do like extra extraneous work the 1st couple of weeks and focus on whatever they need
152 00:17:46.250 ⇒ 00:17:51.531 brianpei2: first, st and then I can do upgrades and optimization later.
153 00:17:52.190 ⇒ 00:17:54.940 brianpei2: yeah, that being said, you’ve been working on this for so long.
154 00:17:55.300 ⇒ 00:17:57.730 brianpei2: I’m surprised there are still models that need to be built.
155 00:17:57.970 ⇒ 00:17:58.999 brianpei2: There’s so many.
156 00:17:59.000 ⇒ 00:18:04.910 Uttam Kumaran: Actually, it’s actually more that, like, I’ve been dropping the ball because I don’t have like time to
157 00:18:04.920 ⇒ 00:18:10.050 Uttam Kumaran: going and work every day on stuff. So if I’m doing like one or 2 days of like
158 00:18:10.150 ⇒ 00:18:11.820 Uttam Kumaran: couple hours of modeling.
159 00:18:12.170 ⇒ 00:18:12.560 brianpei2: Yeah.
160 00:18:12.560 ⇒ 00:18:17.029 Uttam Kumaran: I’m like, I’m like, really ripping like it’s not great. And so.
161 00:18:17.030 ⇒ 00:18:17.830 brianpei2: Yeah, and.
162 00:18:17.830 ⇒ 00:18:18.610 Uttam Kumaran: Shoes.
163 00:18:19.150 ⇒ 00:18:25.250 Uttam Kumaran: I also like I I think, that like I mean, you’re spot on in that one. The thing that we’ve changed
164 00:18:25.310 ⇒ 00:18:28.499 Uttam Kumaran: is we’re trying to get better at. I want
165 00:18:28.770 ⇒ 00:18:32.539 Uttam Kumaran: the folks on engineering side to just like, have the clear requirements.
166 00:18:32.690 ⇒ 00:18:42.980 Uttam Kumaran: and, like you don’t have to worry about the client drama. The second thing is, yeah, we’re getting a little bit closer on the hour optimization, but honestly less.
167 00:18:43.110 ⇒ 00:18:59.109 Uttam Kumaran: I’m like less concerned about that from the financial side. To be quite frank. I’m just like I want to deliver for the clients. And so, even if, like people go over on hours, it’s fine. I think we’ll get to a steady state on every client
168 00:18:59.230 ⇒ 00:19:10.319 Uttam Kumaran: like to the point where it’s like cool, even if it’s like a couple of hours this week, or like, Oh, on a broadly, I just want to get an understanding of how many hours it is. Cause then I’m gonna go back to them and basically say, like.
169 00:19:10.370 ⇒ 00:19:21.750 Uttam Kumaran: here’s what the here’s what we’re doing. So I’m less interested in like this was 30 min. This was like an hour. I mean, Nick does a good job with that but at the same time, like
170 00:19:21.790 ⇒ 00:19:26.820 Uttam Kumaran: there is a lot I would say cool parts needs a lot of love. But there’s a shit ton of opportunity.
171 00:19:27.930 ⇒ 00:19:36.770 Uttam Kumaran: we, I would say. We’ve gotten past the stage where there’s like there’s baseline models for everything. It’s just that, like, we have now priorities around marketing priorities around shipping
172 00:19:36.780 ⇒ 00:19:44.649 Uttam Kumaran: priorities around like we have a full time, an analyst. So he’s like a asking questions and being like, can we add this flag?
173 00:19:44.710 ⇒ 00:19:46.639 Uttam Kumaran: Can we do that sort of stuff?
174 00:19:46.640 ⇒ 00:19:48.220 brianpei2: Oh, okay, that’s good.
175 00:19:48.220 ⇒ 00:20:01.700 Uttam Kumaran: Stuff where it’s like he needs, like, okay, cool. We want to do customer segmentation. He needs like a flag to do that. Go fuck. Can you find this field and the shopify and bring it to the customers table, and, like that sort of stuff, you know, requires like a little bit of back and forth.
176 00:20:01.700 ⇒ 00:20:03.124 brianpei2: I don’t know.
177 00:20:03.895 ⇒ 00:20:04.190 Uttam Kumaran: That.
178 00:20:05.280 ⇒ 00:20:06.020 Nicolas Sucari: And.
179 00:20:06.020 ⇒ 00:20:07.139 brianpei2: Or, yeah.
180 00:20:07.470 ⇒ 00:20:15.469 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, sorry that in terms of dealing with the client communications, gathering requirements and that stuff like, I’ll be helping a lot of that.
181 00:20:15.734 ⇒ 00:20:42.759 Nicolas Sucari: So yeah, you can rely on me for that. I I will be trying like to make processes and that stuff so that we can have like a clear path on what we need to be working on. And what are the priorities for the clients, and what are what are our tasks, so that everyone knows in the team. That’s only you, but also our junior a ais also. Yeah, they they have like clear requirements, and they know what they’d be doing. But the idea is like you don’t have like the burden of giving the
182 00:20:42.810 ⇒ 00:20:51.130 Nicolas Sucari: the tasks, or or what everyone needs to do. It’s more of kind of guidance and trying to help like how we can deliver faster. I think.
183 00:20:52.230 ⇒ 00:20:55.040 brianpei2: Got it. That makes more sense. It’s more about
184 00:20:55.750 ⇒ 00:20:58.997 brianpei2: maybe, like daily incremental
185 00:21:00.700 ⇒ 00:21:08.829 brianpei2: work that can be communicated. And then, like one weekly big thing that can be communicated. There are results as long as.
186 00:21:08.830 ⇒ 00:21:17.550 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, and actually, yeah, actually, we need to show like, we need to show those results. And but but yeah, giving that context of what we were like working on
187 00:21:17.580 ⇒ 00:21:46.749 Nicolas Sucari: by day by day, by or the entire week. I think that is perfect. And then, yeah, it’s gathering requirements and see where where we go with that, because I think like, there will be a lot of new things coming sets. There is a lot of opportunity with the clients. So we just need to figure out, like the right process on how we are delivering the work for them, and how we are gathering that those requirements and what are the priorities, and I’ll be right on point on that, trying to discuss with the clients every week, so that we have, like a clear path of what we need to work.
188 00:21:47.980 ⇒ 00:21:50.740 brianpei2: Got it Nick, what time zone are you in.
189 00:21:51.630 ⇒ 00:21:57.010 Nicolas Sucari: I’m in Argentina when I say this. So if you’re in Austin as Utam, or I don’t know where you’re.
190 00:21:57.270 ⇒ 00:22:04.629 brianpei2: I’m in I’m in New York, but I’m going to be visiting my parents on pst next week, but I can start next week.
191 00:22:05.688 ⇒ 00:22:09.601 brianpei2: So just does Argentina. Yes, est.
192 00:22:10.160 ⇒ 00:22:11.850 Nicolas Sucari: No, it’s no, it’s not. No.
193 00:22:11.850 ⇒ 00:22:13.140 brianpei2: So that’s making something else.
194 00:22:13.140 ⇒ 00:22:14.159 Uttam Kumaran: 3 h! Right.
195 00:22:14.750 ⇒ 00:22:16.770 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. It’s 3 h from New City.
196 00:22:17.380 ⇒ 00:22:18.399 brianpei2: Oh, okay. Got you got.
197 00:22:18.400 ⇒ 00:22:20.129 Uttam Kumaran: So one out. Wait. It’s 3 h for me.
198 00:22:20.130 ⇒ 00:22:21.920 brianpei2: 1 h from me.
199 00:22:22.280 ⇒ 00:22:25.639 brianpei2: It’s 1122 where I am right now, but I’m flying to Nevada.
200 00:22:25.640 ⇒ 00:22:29.140 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, no, it’s it’s an hour an hour ahead of you. Yeah.
201 00:22:29.490 ⇒ 00:22:31.848 brianpei2: Okay, that’s perfect. That’s great.
202 00:22:32.320 ⇒ 00:22:32.920 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, yeah.
203 00:22:32.920 ⇒ 00:22:34.270 brianpei2: Yeah, so
204 00:22:34.570 ⇒ 00:22:36.193 brianpei2: that all sounds great.
205 00:22:37.460 ⇒ 00:22:39.620 brianpei2: I can start Monday.
206 00:22:39.660 ⇒ 00:22:43.049 brianpei2: and probably 1st thing I would do Monday
207 00:22:43.350 ⇒ 00:22:46.250 brianpei2: is to sync with you, Nick on
208 00:22:47.060 ⇒ 00:22:48.719 brianpei2: every, on everything.
209 00:22:49.201 ⇒ 00:22:52.080 brianpei2: Maybe you, Tom again, depending on
210 00:22:52.110 ⇒ 00:22:55.280 brianpei2: the things that you’ve left off on.
211 00:22:55.560 ⇒ 00:22:57.940 brianpei2: And yeah, I can. So I can start
212 00:22:58.030 ⇒ 00:23:02.790 brianpei2: cracking at it. Next week I’ll I’ll need probably the week to get my footing
213 00:23:02.920 ⇒ 00:23:06.165 brianpei2: for all the new stuff and the new projects.
214 00:23:06.640 ⇒ 00:23:09.669 brianpei2: But I’ll I’ll be bringing my laptop.
215 00:23:09.700 ⇒ 00:23:11.210 brianpei2: It’s my parents. So
216 00:23:11.660 ⇒ 00:23:13.390 brianpei2: yeah, that sounds good to me.
217 00:23:13.990 ⇒ 00:23:19.859 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, don’t don’t think that I have all the answers yet. I’m still like trying to get a lot of contact.
218 00:23:19.860 ⇒ 00:23:20.470 brianpei2: And worried like.
219 00:23:20.470 ⇒ 00:23:21.840 Nicolas Sucari: And yeah, yeah.
220 00:23:21.840 ⇒ 00:23:22.450 brianpei2: Worries at all.
221 00:23:22.450 ⇒ 00:23:38.069 Nicolas Sucari: Thank you for 3 weeks. But yeah, I think it would be great. We can catch up. We can see what we have? Yeah, of data structures. Or, yeah, what are next priority. So that you can start like taking a look on that. And that will be great. Yup.
222 00:23:38.770 ⇒ 00:23:39.790 brianpei2: Cool, awesome
223 00:23:39.920 ⇒ 00:23:40.649 brianpei2: that works for me.
224 00:23:40.650 ⇒ 00:23:53.620 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, that was kind of the gist. I mean, we’ll make sure we have all the tickets ready for you to look at, basically, at least at least for next week, if not for like 2 weeks. Some of it is just simple flags.
225 00:23:53.740 ⇒ 00:23:55.249 Uttam Kumaran: Some of it is like.
226 00:23:55.930 ⇒ 00:23:59.519 Uttam Kumaran: basically go in and understand like how we do shipping. Cause
227 00:23:59.660 ⇒ 00:24:08.159 Uttam Kumaran: I’m kind of like, probably the one that really understands that it’s a little bit complicated. But I don’t know. Not too complicated. Frankly,
228 00:24:08.880 ⇒ 00:24:10.210 Uttam Kumaran: and
229 00:24:10.540 ⇒ 00:24:17.979 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, like, I think the biggest thing is like, just wanna make sure that the Ae work for them is like a check.
230 00:24:18.712 ⇒ 00:24:21.820 Uttam Kumaran: And we now, really, we have a really really good analyst.
231 00:24:21.860 ⇒ 00:24:37.859 Uttam Kumaran: and but he’s not really great at Dbt, so part of it is like, I want him to like, basically be like either. I want him to just be confident in the data and then confident that he can run really quickly and answer these questions, because that’s been adding a ton of value.
232 00:24:38.670 ⇒ 00:24:47.089 Uttam Kumaran: And then, frankly, I’m gonna go get us some more clients, and then we can kind of talk about talk about them as they as they come online
233 00:24:47.420 ⇒ 00:24:48.580 Uttam Kumaran: I am.
234 00:24:48.690 ⇒ 00:24:51.760 Uttam Kumaran: And then I hopefully again, between me, you and Nick.
235 00:24:51.800 ⇒ 00:24:54.920 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think there’s gonna be an Ae problem like we can’t really hit
236 00:24:55.388 ⇒ 00:25:00.259 Uttam Kumaran: everything on the Dbt side is already figured out. Snowflake side 5 trans side.
237 00:25:01.306 ⇒ 00:25:02.939 Uttam Kumaran: Running. Dbt.
238 00:25:03.580 ⇒ 00:25:05.760 Uttam Kumaran: all that stuff is already figured out.
239 00:25:06.060 ⇒ 00:25:11.069 Uttam Kumaran: The only thing that’s like a little bit messy is like the snowflake right now, for pool parts is kind of messy
240 00:25:11.872 ⇒ 00:25:14.469 Uttam Kumaran: in terms of like. There’s like
241 00:25:14.770 ⇒ 00:25:16.230 Uttam Kumaran: Deb Mart
242 00:25:16.330 ⇒ 00:25:19.210 Uttam Kumaran: table thing, because this is the oldest client we’ve had.
243 00:25:19.280 ⇒ 00:25:23.169 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s kind of like whatever I did a year ago. We’re kind of like
244 00:25:23.340 ⇒ 00:25:27.943 Uttam Kumaran: biting on right now, so that’ll be the kind of an optimization cleanup thing. But
245 00:25:29.310 ⇒ 00:25:33.310 Uttam Kumaran: again, like shouldn’t be anything that like can’t be handled
246 00:25:33.720 ⇒ 00:25:38.000 Uttam Kumaran: So there isn’t any like super big red flags. Honestly, I think it’s mainly just like
247 00:25:38.360 ⇒ 00:25:40.340 Uttam Kumaran: I’m trying to get out of the way on this one.
248 00:25:40.340 ⇒ 00:25:43.110 brianpei2: Yeah, you know, I have. Ocd, I can clean it up.
249 00:25:43.520 ⇒ 00:25:43.885 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
250 00:25:44.250 ⇒ 00:25:45.880 brianpei2: Weeks, if I if I need to.
251 00:25:46.070 ⇒ 00:25:46.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
252 00:25:47.130 ⇒ 00:25:52.309 brianpei2: Ocd brain, Nick, has Ocd. Too? Honestly, you got 2? You got 2 mentally fucked up aes within that.
253 00:25:52.584 ⇒ 00:26:11.230 Uttam Kumaran: No, I’m the same way, but the thing is like I only have like 30 min or an hour like here and there these days. So and usually now now I’m spending up, I’m just. I’m trying to spend it with Nico, so he can really see the whole whole business. But again, like I was saying, I don’t want. I don’t want myself to be assigned.
254 00:26:11.330 ⇒ 00:26:14.249 Uttam Kumaran: but I will be working on stuff. So it’s like I’m kind of just a bonus.
255 00:26:14.250 ⇒ 00:26:15.649 brianpei2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
256 00:26:15.650 ⇒ 00:26:18.080 Uttam Kumaran: Like wherever I need to be thrown on bonus.
257 00:26:18.140 ⇒ 00:26:20.857 Uttam Kumaran: But I don’t wanna I don’t want to like
258 00:26:21.460 ⇒ 00:26:25.430 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t wanna like make me the linchpin on anything. Basically. So.
259 00:26:27.610 ⇒ 00:26:28.400 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.
260 00:26:29.130 ⇒ 00:26:29.720 brianpei2: Okay.
261 00:26:30.669 ⇒ 00:26:32.589 brianpei2: yeah. That sounds good. And then.
262 00:26:32.590 ⇒ 00:26:35.826 Uttam Kumaran: So you have your gmail. You have all that stuff.
263 00:26:36.950 ⇒ 00:26:37.880 Uttam Kumaran: Let me know like.
264 00:26:37.880 ⇒ 00:26:40.560 brianpei2: Back on slack and gmail I’ve always had.
265 00:26:40.780 ⇒ 00:26:45.100 brianpei2: I think it’s all I need also, and I started with you on cool part, so I have
266 00:26:45.260 ⇒ 00:26:47.560 brianpei2: snow. No one deleted my snowflake account.
267 00:26:48.030 ⇒ 00:26:49.470 brianpei2: so I have that I have gifts.
268 00:26:49.470 ⇒ 00:26:50.060 Uttam Kumaran: Back.
269 00:26:51.690 ⇒ 00:26:52.640 brianpei2: Do? Are they in Dbgt.
270 00:26:52.640 ⇒ 00:26:54.890 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think I don’t think I
271 00:26:55.240 ⇒ 00:26:59.269 Uttam Kumaran: like. I always I thought I maybe removed you from slack because it was like 20 bucks a month.
272 00:26:59.480 ⇒ 00:27:02.200 Uttam Kumaran: or something like that, but I think you should be in everything else.
273 00:27:03.520 ⇒ 00:27:05.000 brianpei2: Cheap. You’re cheap.
274 00:27:06.670 ⇒ 00:27:08.770 brianpei2: I was. I was off for 8 months. It’s all good.
275 00:27:11.330 ⇒ 00:27:14.059 brianpei2: Do, do, are they? Are they? Ntbc. Cloud? I can’t remember what.
276 00:27:14.060 ⇒ 00:27:15.089 Uttam Kumaran: I use now.
277 00:27:15.560 ⇒ 00:27:17.840 brianpei2: How? How do you trigger their stuff again?
278 00:27:17.840 ⇒ 00:27:20.269 Uttam Kumaran: We run everything through github actions.
279 00:27:20.440 ⇒ 00:27:21.790 brianpei2: Okay, cool. That’s fine.
280 00:27:21.790 ⇒ 00:27:27.402 Uttam Kumaran: But you can use. You can use Dvt. Cloud, and for the you can use it just for one person. But we don’t use it for jobs.
281 00:27:27.700 ⇒ 00:27:29.760 Uttam Kumaran: so you can use it as the ide. If you want.
282 00:27:29.760 ⇒ 00:27:31.130 brianpei2: Oh, yeah.
283 00:27:31.280 ⇒ 00:27:34.219 brianpei2: that would actually be nice.
284 00:27:34.390 ⇒ 00:27:34.930 brianpei2: Yeah.
285 00:27:34.930 ⇒ 00:27:37.670 Uttam Kumaran: We get one free, so you could do that.
286 00:27:39.420 ⇒ 00:27:41.109 Uttam Kumaran: You were doing before. I mean, it’s.
287 00:27:41.310 ⇒ 00:27:41.820 brianpei2: It’s 1.
288 00:27:41.820 ⇒ 00:27:43.439 Uttam Kumaran: I’m doing everything in Vs code.
289 00:27:44.370 ⇒ 00:27:45.080 brianpei2: Okay.
290 00:27:45.600 ⇒ 00:27:49.079 brianpei2: right? But I just need to remember how I ran things.
291 00:27:49.180 ⇒ 00:27:54.509 brianpei2: how I ran Dbt models locally I can’t remember if I use Dbt cloud. Or if I actually set up my environment.
292 00:27:55.043 ⇒ 00:27:57.849 brianpei2: I don’t think I set up an environment or a virtual environment.
293 00:27:57.850 ⇒ 00:28:00.069 Uttam Kumaran: We have, we have all of we have.
294 00:28:00.370 ⇒ 00:28:07.319 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we have everything locally ready. Basically, there is a dev schema. So if he runs up locally it hits dev.
295 00:28:07.490 ⇒ 00:28:10.750 Uttam Kumaran: and then when you in Github it’ll push to prod
296 00:28:11.080 ⇒ 00:28:12.739 Uttam Kumaran: Patrick on our side can give us.
297 00:28:12.740 ⇒ 00:28:13.779 brianpei2: They have good.
298 00:28:14.080 ⇒ 00:28:15.150 brianpei2: very loose.
299 00:28:15.150 ⇒ 00:28:17.970 Uttam Kumaran: Something like I don’t want you to think about. Ask Patrick.
300 00:28:18.520 ⇒ 00:28:19.710 brianpei2: Alright! I’m done.
301 00:28:19.710 ⇒ 00:28:28.670 Uttam Kumaran: And like, basically, I’m gonna tell Patrick, like Patrick’s system, like dev work, flow d type stuff like I don’t want.
302 00:28:28.830 ⇒ 00:28:32.270 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t want people above Dee to have to deal with this. It’s a nightmare
303 00:28:32.370 ⇒ 00:28:34.669 Uttam Kumaran: like. So basically.
304 00:28:34.760 ⇒ 00:28:38.140 Uttam Kumaran: any any sort of stuff like this, I want Pat’s gonna handle.
305 00:28:40.120 ⇒ 00:28:41.519 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, we can schedule that.
306 00:28:42.100 ⇒ 00:28:46.857 Uttam Kumaran: Pat you’ll meet. I mean, you could stay on if you have time you could stay on. We haven’t. We’re having a team meeting and like.
307 00:28:48.120 ⇒ 00:28:48.730 Nicolas Sucari: An hour with that.
308 00:28:48.730 ⇒ 00:28:49.480 Uttam Kumaran: An hour.
309 00:28:49.890 ⇒ 00:28:51.240 brianpei2: An hour. I.
310 00:28:51.240 ⇒ 00:28:52.070 Uttam Kumaran: Or and.
311 00:28:52.070 ⇒ 00:28:53.260 brianpei2: Dentist.
312 00:28:53.810 ⇒ 00:28:57.320 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. 11 at a wait at 1230.
313 00:28:57.640 ⇒ 00:28:58.940 Nicolas Sucari: 1230 for you! Yes.
314 00:28:59.410 ⇒ 00:29:02.559 brianpei2: I’m going to the dentist. My teeth are all messed up.
315 00:29:03.180 ⇒ 00:29:06.040 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So I mean, we’ll just talk. You’ll just meet everyone on Monday.
316 00:29:06.260 ⇒ 00:29:07.199 brianpei2: Yeah, that’s fine.
317 00:29:07.420 ⇒ 00:29:11.339 Uttam Kumaran: And then, at the moment we we’re doing daily, stand ups.
318 00:29:14.995 ⇒ 00:29:19.129 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll let Nico think about what we want to do. There.
319 00:29:19.340 ⇒ 00:29:19.710 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
320 00:29:19.710 ⇒ 00:29:23.809 Uttam Kumaran: I think I think it’s a confidence thing so like I don’t know like.
321 00:29:23.810 ⇒ 00:29:26.990 brianpei2: Well, if I have no updates, then I don’t have to join
322 00:29:27.560 ⇒ 00:29:28.429 brianpei2: right cause. I don’t.
323 00:29:28.889 ⇒ 00:29:29.350 Nicolas Sucari: Ugly.
324 00:29:29.350 ⇒ 00:29:30.649 Uttam Kumaran: That’s up to me, though.
325 00:29:31.310 ⇒ 00:29:58.879 Nicolas Sucari: We can talk about that. Yeah, Monday. I know I mean for now it’s been very useful for me, too, because I’m just joining. I’m trying to understand a little bit of everything that’s going on so having like that daily updates, it’s like kind of useful for me. But if we have, like that backlog like really cleaned up, detailed, and we know what are the next steps. I don’t think we need the meeting. We can just send like a quick update by slack like, send a message, and that will be okay. And we can leave like 2
326 00:29:58.920 ⇒ 00:30:14.597 Nicolas Sucari: 2 2 meetings per week or something like that. I mean, we can figure that we can figure that out. I know that being in meetings is like kind of waste of time for some people. But also, it’s kind of nice to be like on sync with all of the team, too. So yeah, we can figure that out.
327 00:30:14.850 ⇒ 00:30:15.530 brianpei2: I don’t.
328 00:30:15.530 ⇒ 00:30:16.340 Nicolas Sucari: Worried about that.
329 00:30:16.670 ⇒ 00:30:18.503 brianpei2: I was being dramatic. I’ll
330 00:30:18.870 ⇒ 00:30:19.909 Nicolas Sucari: I know no worries.
331 00:30:19.910 ⇒ 00:30:25.000 brianpei2: In the beginning. In the beginning, I’ll I’ll be joining them as I as I ramp up. Obviously.
332 00:30:25.480 ⇒ 00:30:27.299 brianpei2: But yeah, I was being dramatic. It’s all good.
333 00:30:28.430 ⇒ 00:30:30.739 Nicolas Sucari: Have your Monday full of meetings. Don’t worry.
334 00:30:31.220 ⇒ 00:30:33.860 brianpei2: All all good. No worries.
335 00:30:35.910 ⇒ 00:30:36.940 brianpei2: Okay. Alright.
336 00:30:37.580 ⇒ 00:30:40.060 Uttam Kumaran: You’re the best. Thank you so much. I’ll talk to you.
337 00:30:40.060 ⇒ 00:30:40.850 Nicolas Sucari: Like Brian.
338 00:30:41.370 ⇒ 00:30:47.839 brianpei2: Thanks. I’ll talk to you guys on Monday. If not earlier. I might text you some later today on
339 00:30:50.310 ⇒ 00:30:56.489 brianpei2: the the specific stuff that is. Oh, well, you’re making tickets, too. I can look through the tickets. Well, we’ll.
340 00:30:56.490 ⇒ 00:30:59.219 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, take. It’ll all be in tickets.
341 00:30:59.600 ⇒ 00:31:00.340 brianpei2: Okay.
342 00:31:00.760 ⇒ 00:31:03.369 brianpei2: alright cool. I’ll talk to you guys later. Then, thanks.
343 00:31:04.060 ⇒ 00:31:05.200 Nicolas Sucari: Thank you. Bye, bye.
344 00:31:05.200 ⇒ 00:31:06.620 Uttam Kumaran: Thanks, man, bye.