Meeting Title: Zoom-Meeting Date: 2024-06-04 Meeting participants: Nicolas Sucari, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:26.560 ⇒ 00:00:27.470 Nicolas Sucari: Hey, Tom!
2 00:00:27.700 ⇒ 00:00:29.224 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, Nico! How are you?
3 00:00:29.930 ⇒ 00:00:31.509 Nicolas Sucari: I’m fine. How are you?
4 00:00:31.770 ⇒ 00:00:34.758 Uttam Kumaran: Good just just on the way back home.
5 00:00:35.870 ⇒ 00:00:36.960 Nicolas Sucari: Excellent!
6 00:00:37.070 ⇒ 00:00:38.769 Nicolas Sucari: Where are you now? The airport.
7 00:00:38.770 ⇒ 00:00:40.290 Uttam Kumaran: Airport. Yeah. Airport.
8 00:00:41.160 ⇒ 00:00:41.700 Uttam Kumaran: Where’d you.
9 00:00:41.700 ⇒ 00:00:42.570 Nicolas Sucari: Media travel.
10 00:00:43.378 ⇒ 00:00:44.970 Uttam Kumaran: To Salt Lake City.
11 00:00:45.550 ⇒ 00:00:46.399 Nicolas Sucari: Oh yes!
12 00:00:46.560 ⇒ 00:00:47.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So
13 00:00:49.240 ⇒ 00:00:50.090 Uttam Kumaran: my.
14 00:00:50.200 ⇒ 00:00:53.350 Uttam Kumaran: I was organizing my friend’s bachelor party, and we
15 00:00:53.620 ⇒ 00:00:58.370 Uttam Kumaran: drove there and then we had a house there, and we went like hiking, and we drove.
16 00:00:58.370 ⇒ 00:00:58.820 Nicolas Sucari: Tracks.
17 00:00:58.820 ⇒ 00:01:00.740 Uttam Kumaran: And yeah, it was nice time.
18 00:01:01.400 ⇒ 00:01:05.010 Nicolas Sucari: I’ve been there on yeah last year. I think.
19 00:01:05.209 ⇒ 00:01:05.809 Uttam Kumaran: On the server.
20 00:01:05.810 ⇒ 00:01:07.780 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, kind of February. Yeah, I went.
21 00:01:07.780 ⇒ 00:01:09.120 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, cool!
22 00:01:09.120 ⇒ 00:01:09.790 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
23 00:01:09.990 ⇒ 00:01:15.129 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know there’s there’s a ton of skiing here. And it’s it’s kinda nice weather today. So.
24 00:01:15.890 ⇒ 00:01:21.740 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, it’s beautiful. And it’s really close to your like to Salt Lake City. The skiing area that.
25 00:01:21.740 ⇒ 00:01:22.200 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
26 00:01:22.200 ⇒ 00:01:27.260 Nicolas Sucari: Perfect like you take a plane and 30 min away you have, like the ski area, it’s great.
27 00:01:27.260 ⇒ 00:01:27.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
28 00:01:28.130 ⇒ 00:01:34.079 Uttam Kumaran: that’s nice. Yeah. I didn’t know you were into skiing. A lot of my friends are on the strip are like, super super big skiers.
29 00:01:35.520 ⇒ 00:01:36.300 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
30 00:01:36.940 ⇒ 00:01:39.510 Nicolas Sucari: I I really like to ski. It’s nice.
31 00:01:39.510 ⇒ 00:01:41.230 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, you travel a lot for skiing.
32 00:01:42.430 ⇒ 00:02:11.350 Nicolas Sucari: Well, not a lot because here in Argentina we have a like ski places, but like they are kind of old, and the lifts. And all of that. I mean, if the infrastructure is really old. So yeah, i i i travel. I like to go. Only in winter. Obviously, we don’t have like ski much time of our year that part of the year. But then I like to travel, yeah to. Sometimes I went once to France, and once to yeah. Salt Lake City and Lake Tahoe.
33 00:02:11.480 ⇒ 00:02:13.969 Nicolas Sucari: Nice? Yeah, pretty nice. Pretty nice.
34 00:02:13.970 ⇒ 00:02:18.580 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’ve been to Lake Hall in the summer. So that’s that was really nice.
35 00:02:18.580 ⇒ 00:02:22.380 Nicolas Sucari: Well, it it should be it. It’s seems to be beautiful. Yeah, a beautiful.
36 00:02:22.380 ⇒ 00:02:24.316 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
37 00:02:25.130 ⇒ 00:02:29.170 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. How’s yeah. How’s the week going so far?
38 00:02:30.510 ⇒ 00:02:32.029 Nicolas Sucari: I think it’s going
39 00:02:32.080 ⇒ 00:02:40.700 Nicolas Sucari: great. I mean, we’ve met with Ben and Dan for the pro versus consumer segmentation. We’re gonna continue that discussion.
40 00:02:40.700 ⇒ 00:02:41.350 Uttam Kumaran: Minute.
41 00:02:41.350 ⇒ 00:02:51.139 Nicolas Sucari: Later today I invited you. If you wanna join or I don’t know if you can join. But don’t worry if you don’t. I mean we already started discussing, but there were. There was no time
42 00:02:51.557 ⇒ 00:03:18.399 Nicolas Sucari: like to go through. All of the questions that we had. Done was always gives like a little bit of context when he doesn’t know when someone in the meet that’s really cool, because he told Jacob a little bit more about like the history of full parts, and how they started the business and what you are planning for today and the future. But yeah, after the meeting he asked me all those questions that I already
43 00:03:18.400 ⇒ 00:03:28.439 Nicolas Sucari: sent to you. He’s kind of a little bit yeah, I don’t know. Stressed out because of that home Depot and and Jacob, so probably we should like.
44 00:03:29.020 ⇒ 00:03:32.460 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’ll take care of that. Yeah, I’ll take care of that in the next like
45 00:03:32.590 ⇒ 00:03:34.319 Uttam Kumaran: hour or so before that meeting.
46 00:03:34.900 ⇒ 00:03:46.990 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, perfect, because he also told me that he could send something for him to sign if if we don’t like. Have something ready for that, but I told him that we were handling it, and
47 00:03:47.010 ⇒ 00:03:48.549 Nicolas Sucari: probably we should take care of.
48 00:03:48.720 ⇒ 00:03:49.240 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
49 00:03:49.240 ⇒ 00:03:50.319 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect.
50 00:03:51.010 ⇒ 00:03:55.000 Nicolas Sucari: And the other stuff is like. He also knows that
51 00:03:55.110 ⇒ 00:04:23.470 Nicolas Sucari: as well as Jacob is working at home depot, too, and we have, like all these personal information about their clients like, he started asking about how we are like managing like that information security? Right? If you’re encrypting the data. Like, if yeah, all of that’s those stuff. So probably we should like, think of having I don’t know. Probably in a meeting like tell. Let let him know what we are doing about this stuff, or just
52 00:04:23.500 ⇒ 00:04:28.359 Nicolas Sucari: arranging a document and send him. Hey? These are like best practices of cyber security and the stuff.
53 00:04:28.360 ⇒ 00:04:28.810 Uttam Kumaran: On, the.
54 00:04:28.810 ⇒ 00:04:32.060 Nicolas Sucari: He can know, like what we are doing about that? Yeah.
55 00:04:32.060 ⇒ 00:04:33.619 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Perfect. Okay. Great.
56 00:04:33.620 ⇒ 00:04:37.804 Nicolas Sucari: I. I discuss that with Patrick and Ryan, too.
57 00:04:38.450 ⇒ 00:04:40.459 Nicolas Sucari: because he was also like
58 00:04:40.924 ⇒ 00:05:09.539 Nicolas Sucari: like Dan was like. Thinking of what? What if I don’t know? Someone in the team starts, finds all the information, and disappears the next day with all of the information like how we track that? Are we logging like the queries that we are doing at Snowflake per user and that kind of stuff. And yeah, i i i told I told him that we were. Gonna look into that. But yeah, of course, I I discussed that with Brian and Patrick, and they told me that. Yes, we we have, like the query in history in Snowflake by users. So yeah, we can know that.
59 00:05:10.000 ⇒ 00:05:12.031 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay. Perfect. Great.
60 00:05:13.270 ⇒ 00:05:20.970 Nicolas Sucari: But yeah, so that was full part. With Devon, I mean, the the meet was kind of really chill.
61 00:05:21.010 ⇒ 00:05:26.920 Nicolas Sucari: They won like we showed him a lot everything what he can do on on real Ryan
62 00:05:27.050 ⇒ 00:05:44.339 Nicolas Sucari: did like a great demo. Of that. We just started like showing what are the metrics that we have there all the dimensions, what he can do, why, how he can filter and drill down on the metrics, how he he can change the graph types add more like dimensions into
63 00:05:44.678 ⇒ 00:05:58.231 Nicolas Sucari: in into those metrics. How to? Yeah. Draw drill down a little bit on that information and he was like, this is perfect. This is really okay and we tried to gather some more feedback from him. But
64 00:05:58.570 ⇒ 00:06:18.710 Nicolas Sucari: I mean he, I think he’s only thinking now on, on, on his sales deck, or yeah on those slides that he has, and how he wants to make it better and I don’t know if, like, we we have like something to do with that. I mean, I know that. You refer the studio design right? Yeah.
65 00:06:19.323 ⇒ 00:06:32.669 Nicolas Sucari: and I don’t know if we need like to involve I don’t know her name, but yeah, and we I I don’t know if we need to be involved with her in order to like, arrange what? What he need, what Devon needs or not.
66 00:06:33.330 ⇒ 00:06:44.822 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I just sent her a message to just say, like, when, like, what’s the what’s the timeline? Yeah, I guess on that overall. It’s yeah. Like, I’m kind of wondering whether
67 00:06:45.280 ⇒ 00:06:52.799 Uttam Kumaran: we get to the point where Devon is able to use it every day or whether he needs someone dedicated, looking at the data for him.
68 00:06:54.930 ⇒ 00:06:59.150 Uttam Kumaran: you know, there’s 1 thing where it’s like. If he doesn’t have time to look and find the insights.
69 00:06:59.250 ⇒ 00:07:02.309 Uttam Kumaran: then maybe it’s like we just need to be
70 00:07:02.770 ⇒ 00:07:05.770 Uttam Kumaran: digging in on that data and finding things to share with him.
71 00:07:06.070 ⇒ 00:07:08.970 Uttam Kumaran: And then kind of like getting that feedback.
72 00:07:09.070 ⇒ 00:07:22.950 Uttam Kumaran: I think. Like if as long as he has confidence now then, really, I just wanna make sure that like when I talk to him next, just asking like, Hey, do you see that? Do you see that you’re gonna be using this? Do you want us to
73 00:07:22.960 ⇒ 00:07:27.099 Uttam Kumaran: kind of set up like data reviews where we kind of analyze stuff?
74 00:07:28.720 ⇒ 00:07:31.750 Uttam Kumaran: and how does he want to run it? So, okay.
75 00:07:31.950 ⇒ 00:07:35.080 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, yeah, I think that’s fine. But
76 00:07:35.210 ⇒ 00:07:41.629 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, I because I I think, like he’s like with a lot of things. And probably he’s like not
77 00:07:42.220 ⇒ 00:07:54.467 Nicolas Sucari: I. I I’m I’m not sure if he’s using the dashboard right now. But he he told us that he will be taking a look. So yeah, probably we should wait until I think we have the meeting with them again on Friday or Thursday.
78 00:07:54.740 ⇒ 00:07:55.420 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
79 00:07:55.726 ⇒ 00:07:59.400 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, probably we should wait until that meeting and see if he
80 00:07:59.460 ⇒ 00:08:07.520 Nicolas Sucari: was able to take a look, or he will. Yeah, to be like providing some analysis
81 00:08:08.170 ⇒ 00:08:10.539 Uttam Kumaran: I also think they’re planning on hiring people.
82 00:08:10.760 ⇒ 00:08:18.069 Uttam Kumaran: So also we can ask him, like, What’s the plan with? Those new employees, and like getting access to data.
83 00:08:19.440 ⇒ 00:08:20.230 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
84 00:08:20.230 ⇒ 00:08:27.159 Nicolas Sucari: Totally. And then I I was like talking with Brian, but
85 00:08:27.710 ⇒ 00:08:40.119 Nicolas Sucari: I think real really is just for Devon, and like their team that’d be able to show like customers like other light dash or yeah evidence dashboard, right? And something like that. What they want.
86 00:08:40.470 ⇒ 00:08:56.560 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, exactly. So that’s the other piece is like, there he’s trying to. We’re trying to figure out. One thing on our backlog is basically to figure out setting up evidence for them. So they can use it for enterprise clients. So those those are the 3 things. One again, it’s like
87 00:08:56.600 ⇒ 00:08:59.910 Uttam Kumaran: is Re, is Devon, and the internal reporting for them
88 00:09:00.040 ⇒ 00:09:01.409 Uttam Kumaran: squared away.
89 00:09:01.750 ⇒ 00:09:06.870 Uttam Kumaran: And then the second thing is the ais piece. And the 3rd thing is like this customer facing analytics.
90 00:09:07.570 ⇒ 00:09:17.869 Nicolas Sucari: Okay. But customer facing analytics. It will be like, if I’m 1 of the customers using us at Link. I should only see the information that is like work for me. Right?
91 00:09:18.180 ⇒ 00:09:21.470 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so you’ll it’ll be a filter to just you. And then.
92 00:09:21.470 ⇒ 00:09:21.830 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.
93 00:09:21.830 ⇒ 00:09:26.609 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like about your usage of the platform, or who’s connecting to your teammates things like that.
94 00:09:27.000 ⇒ 00:09:32.790 Nicolas Sucari: And that that that models like we are gonna set up for each of their customers. Or, Yeah.
95 00:09:32.790 ⇒ 00:09:46.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So typically the way it’ll work is like, we’ll set up a data model with all that data and then depending on the customer. It’ll get filtered to just the data for them that way when they run queries and evidence, so they’ll just see their stuff. So that’s some of the things.
96 00:09:46.920 ⇒ 00:09:47.250 Nicolas Sucari: Excellent.
97 00:09:47.250 ⇒ 00:10:02.160 Uttam Kumaran: Things we need to figure out kind of like project plan towards. I think overall. If we’re confident, like on the if we’re like, okay, cool. We’re we’re real set up. Then, basically, the next thing I want to kind of push towards is like getting evidence
98 00:10:02.220 ⇒ 00:10:06.965 Uttam Kumaran: going and then again continuing the work on the AI side.
99 00:10:07.330 ⇒ 00:10:08.410 Nicolas Sucari: Perfect. Yeah.
100 00:10:08.740 ⇒ 00:10:21.440 Nicolas Sucari: yeah. And yeah, I think we should probably probably like start understanding that backlog. And what like is like, our next step on the AI side, too, because until I I think, for now I we are kind of.
101 00:10:21.440 ⇒ 00:10:22.050 Uttam Kumaran: These were.
102 00:10:22.050 ⇒ 00:10:23.619 Nicolas Sucari: Not knowing where we need to.
103 00:10:23.620 ⇒ 00:10:24.760 Uttam Kumaran: Postponed. Yeah.
104 00:10:24.760 ⇒ 00:10:32.859 Nicolas Sucari: I look forward to. I think I was so is still working on like ma making some improvements to the AI bot
105 00:10:33.247 ⇒ 00:10:41.849 Nicolas Sucari: he told me he was gonna show me later. But yeah, I don’t know if you if you were working on that, too, or anything related to that.
106 00:10:42.400 ⇒ 00:10:53.810 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think I agree. So maybe what we should do is like, probably can take a lot of action items for tomorrow is just maybe me and you can set up some time and start. Do like another
107 00:10:53.850 ⇒ 00:10:56.240 Uttam Kumaran: like hour or 2 session on just backlog.
108 00:10:56.810 ⇒ 00:11:02.940 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I think that is like, really necessary now, so that we can also give like a little bit of
109 00:11:03.274 ⇒ 00:11:25.349 Nicolas Sucari: clarity to all of like, Yeah, Jacob Patrick Brian, Augustine like, Hey, these are the next tasks that you will be because I was just kind of lost right now on what he will, he will be doing. And I’m also like a little bit lost on what he can actually work on for each of the clients. But yeah, I think we should need that. We, we should do that. Yeah.
110 00:11:25.870 ⇒ 00:11:29.252 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So let’s I’m just gonna grab time for tomorrow.
111 00:11:30.640 ⇒ 00:11:34.979 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. Tomorrow. I’m whenever you want. I’m I’m I’m down for it. Yeah.
112 00:11:34.980 ⇒ 00:11:35.730 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
113 00:11:39.000 ⇒ 00:11:39.850 Uttam Kumaran: Stop.
114 00:11:46.450 ⇒ 00:11:53.109 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I wrote those, I think, for pool board stuff I created like the meeting
115 00:11:54.740 ⇒ 00:11:55.919 Nicolas Sucari: and the
116 00:11:56.880 ⇒ 00:11:57.680 Nicolas Sucari: left.
117 00:11:57.840 ⇒ 00:11:59.060 Nicolas Sucari: Some stuff there.
118 00:12:00.304 ⇒ 00:12:07.769 Nicolas Sucari: Perfect. Yeah. The action items for pool parts are those ones. And then what? It’s still missing for pool parts that I also
119 00:12:07.910 ⇒ 00:12:12.543 Nicolas Sucari: already talking with Patrick about. It is like how we can get
120 00:12:13.060 ⇒ 00:12:16.350 Nicolas Sucari: done then, and done like to use
121 00:12:16.843 ⇒ 00:12:23.199 Nicolas Sucari: the dashboards, and how we can improve that. But we wanted like to 1st finish this discussion about
122 00:12:23.240 ⇒ 00:12:31.640 Nicolas Sucari: pro versus consumers, and then, like, move along with the other part for that of visualization. And also you send me that like screenshot.
123 00:12:31.640 ⇒ 00:12:32.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
124 00:12:32.170 ⇒ 00:12:37.383 Nicolas Sucari: That he sent you and I. I don’t know like what we need to. If if we need to reduce that or not.
125 00:12:37.890 ⇒ 00:12:51.550 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So maybe let’s just talk. I wrote some notes. Maybe we talked through. This is a bunch of stuff I was thinking about, even this weekend kind of like thinking about the last 2 weeks. And then, just like, now, we have, like each of these 3 clients so overall
126 00:12:51.570 ⇒ 00:12:56.069 Uttam Kumaran: like I’m trying to think about for us like, what do we think about?
127 00:12:56.250 ⇒ 00:13:00.809 Uttam Kumaran: Just a few like overall goals that every time we talk or we do planning.
128 00:13:00.820 ⇒ 00:13:09.479 Uttam Kumaran: We we can say like this month. This is what we’re like driving towards right. And for from like what we’ve talked about, I think number one is like building the backlog.
129 00:13:09.990 ⇒ 00:13:11.660 Uttam Kumaran: I think the second.
130 00:13:12.030 ⇒ 00:13:16.740 Uttam Kumaran: that I think is really important is everything having due dates and estimations.
131 00:13:17.736 ⇒ 00:13:23.690 Uttam Kumaran: And then the 3rd thing, I think you know. And this is basically like the full loop which is
132 00:13:24.030 ⇒ 00:13:38.640 Uttam Kumaran: all the way from delivery to feedback to triage, to signing, to execution, back to delivery. That process for each client is very, very clear. And there’s a clear this, there’s a clear process by which.
133 00:13:38.950 ⇒ 00:13:47.750 Uttam Kumaran: like between me and you, who’s doing communication between between the the team like, who’s assigned, what and who can work on what
134 00:13:47.870 ⇒ 00:13:51.060 Uttam Kumaran: and then how do we? And then estimations? And then, of course, like
135 00:13:51.390 ⇒ 00:14:02.060 Uttam Kumaran: those are being delivered. And then how do we communicate it back? So those that’s, I think, like, really the thing I I wanna do. And by 1st building the backlog will then be able to work on 3.
136 00:14:02.060 ⇒ 00:14:02.679 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, exactly.
137 00:14:02.680 ⇒ 00:14:14.670 Uttam Kumaran: Doing. The 1st 2 will, really. Then we we wrap. We aim for the 3, rd and I don’t want to take like I wanna I want to move very quickly, but I want to nail these things. I don’t want to move from them
138 00:14:14.930 ⇒ 00:14:21.120 Uttam Kumaran: until like we’re really confident that, like, no matter what work or request comes in. There’s like a process.
139 00:14:21.120 ⇒ 00:14:21.770 Nicolas Sucari: Hey, I process.
140 00:14:21.770 ⇒ 00:14:22.099 Uttam Kumaran: Says, every.
141 00:14:22.100 ⇒ 00:14:22.920 Nicolas Sucari: Troubleshoot. Yeah.
142 00:14:22.920 ⇒ 00:14:37.199 Uttam Kumaran: Everything else we can scale up like, and we’ll talk to delay a little bit about like the team, or if we need more people and stuff like that, but there’s always ways to push it to scale it up. But I wanna scale up from like a place where like this is how we do work.
143 00:14:37.320 ⇒ 00:14:52.610 Uttam Kumaran: and then we can just make it very, very crystal clear for everybody on, like what we expect and what we need from everybody. And again, I think that that’s hopefully gonna help. You know people a lot. So let’s I think we can start there. Is there anything else you think we should add
144 00:14:52.720 ⇒ 00:14:53.850 Uttam Kumaran: for this.
145 00:14:54.510 ⇒ 00:15:12.549 Nicolas Sucari: We’ll back up with the clients. So yeah, I think this is okay. For now, I mean, if we nail one and 2, the rest will. Yeah. Number 3 will come along with that, I think. Like, we need the 1st one like Re, we’re really need for the first, st the 1st one, and that will help us with everything else. Yep.
146 00:15:13.082 ⇒ 00:15:40.560 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, I think in in terms of like communication. And that stuff, I think, like we, if we can like, have the clients on slack. That is like the best of all of the options. But if we don’t, if they don’t want join slack, or they don’t have slack, and we can connect there. Email is like the second best option, right? And I’m always like a as I’m doing right now, I’m like always tracking those emails and trying to see what is coming out from that. And if someone
147 00:15:40.560 ⇒ 00:15:55.790 Nicolas Sucari: or is like, yeah, how? How didn’t respond as as I as I see seen before, I will gonna push to try to get the answers so that we are not blocked on anything, and we can continue to move forward.
148 00:15:57.770 ⇒ 00:15:59.159 Nicolas Sucari: But yeah, I mean.
149 00:15:59.969 ⇒ 00:16:16.580 Nicolas Sucari: and once we receive feedback, like, the idea is, if we can schedule that planning meetings every week. Yeah, we should be like, gathering all that feedback and reviewing everything on that planning meeting so that we can create new tickets prioritize. And yeah, get the backlog always up to date.
150 00:16:18.990 ⇒ 00:16:19.390 Nicolas Sucari: Are you.
151 00:16:19.390 ⇒ 00:16:21.089 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I also agree. I think it’s like.
152 00:16:21.916 ⇒ 00:16:22.713 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.
153 00:16:23.510 ⇒ 00:16:24.080 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I don’t.
154 00:16:24.080 ⇒ 00:16:26.001 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s mainly like
155 00:16:26.770 ⇒ 00:16:30.254 Nicolas Sucari: All of the process for everyone to understand.
156 00:16:30.700 ⇒ 00:16:39.589 Nicolas Sucari: So we have, like, what is the triage triage column? What like? What means each of the different statuses and what we should do with it. Yep.
157 00:16:42.200 ⇒ 00:16:45.061 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. I think that. Yeah, I see that. Okay.
158 00:16:47.970 ⇒ 00:16:48.660 Uttam Kumaran: Yep.
159 00:16:49.900 ⇒ 00:17:04.520 Uttam Kumaran: yeah. The other thing is, you know, I I think as as we figure out like, Okay, great, we we will. We’ll nail like on a daily basis on a weekly basis. Then we’ll be able to work with them and plan out months, you know, and like, that’s what I want to get to. Because.
160 00:17:05.250 ⇒ 00:17:17.019 Uttam Kumaran: like right now, it’s kind of like every week, there’s like a ton of stuff going on. So it’s really difficult, even for me to get a sense of like where there’s opportunity. So let’s that’s what we’ll drive towards. So.
161 00:17:18.510 ⇒ 00:17:20.856 Nicolas Sucari: But I think we are. We are moving.
162 00:17:21.490 ⇒ 00:17:23.200 Nicolas Sucari: we’re moving to it. Yeah, I mean.
163 00:17:23.200 ⇒ 00:17:28.089 Uttam Kumaran: I think we’re doing. I mean, I think we’re doing a lot of great work. I think the biggest thing is like, I wanna make sure that it’s
164 00:17:29.040 ⇒ 00:17:36.409 Uttam Kumaran: I. Wanna make sure that it’s it’s all like communicated properly, and that it’s
165 00:17:37.370 ⇒ 00:17:41.374 Uttam Kumaran: It’s not only communicated properly. It’s like actually being
166 00:17:43.025 ⇒ 00:17:44.100 Uttam Kumaran: like.
167 00:17:44.320 ⇒ 00:17:48.692 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. It’s just like, no, not every day is like a scramble. Basically, you know.
168 00:17:49.250 ⇒ 00:17:53.759 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, totally. But I think that we are like we are working
169 00:17:54.070 ⇒ 00:18:03.550 Nicolas Sucari: to to yeah, to improve that, and not to be like worried every day on what are the tasks? Or, yeah delivering to trying to think what are the tasks.
170 00:18:03.590 ⇒ 00:18:16.139 Nicolas Sucari: and that we are gonna work today. But I think we are moving into that one. Yeah, I I think I’m getting a little bit closer to the clients, and that will help try to understand their requirements, and how like we can standardize that backlog.
171 00:18:16.140 ⇒ 00:18:16.560 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
172 00:18:16.560 ⇒ 00:18:21.570 Nicolas Sucari: And get everyone to yeah, work on clear tasks and try to deliver more often.
173 00:18:21.570 ⇒ 00:18:21.795 Uttam Kumaran: But
174 00:18:22.020 ⇒ 00:18:24.100 Nicolas Sucari: But yeah, I think we are working for that. Yeah.
175 00:18:24.310 ⇒ 00:18:38.060 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And then, so I think I wanted to also just go through each client. And I think this is gonna some be things that I wanna get their feedback on. And then again, anytime we take on requests. If they’re outside the scope, I wanna have a conversation to say like
176 00:18:38.140 ⇒ 00:18:39.750 Uttam Kumaran: this seems like
177 00:18:39.780 ⇒ 00:18:46.149 Uttam Kumaran: we’re something outside or like something that we’re not doing, or until these are knocked off. We can’t really move to things right. And
178 00:18:46.250 ⇒ 00:18:49.860 Uttam Kumaran: and I would say, like pool. These these are kind of in order of, like
179 00:18:50.240 ⇒ 00:18:57.519 Uttam Kumaran: both the amount of money like the company gets, but also in terms of like how difficult the cool parts has a lot of moving parts
180 00:18:57.700 ⇒ 00:19:08.089 Uttam Kumaran: and a lot of sophistication. I something is a little bit easier, but like there will be ramping up more. Stella is just like really just Nick, but I still think there are some gaps there.
181 00:19:08.425 ⇒ 00:19:12.144 Uttam Kumaran: So if we just start with cool parts, like the biggest thing is like
182 00:19:12.430 ⇒ 00:19:14.729 Uttam Kumaran: the biggest thing I think, are these 2,
183 00:19:14.840 ⇒ 00:19:21.299 Uttam Kumaran: like Dan using the dashboards confidently, and that data models are accurate. I think
184 00:19:21.450 ⇒ 00:19:50.300 Uttam Kumaran: like. Still, there’s clearly been issues with the dashboards. And like, that’s basically like what the text I got was was, they just aren’t, I think, not seeing like the value. I mean. As I mentioned, we brought on Patrick primarily to own that like data visualization workflow for full parts. I think like he’s done an okay job. But there’s been a like several moments of like communication gaps, basically.
185 00:19:50.300 ⇒ 00:19:51.770 Uttam Kumaran: and like.
186 00:19:51.770 ⇒ 00:19:59.920 Uttam Kumaran: not really working in a way where could execute, get feedback execute and like, and I get some of these dashboard tests are fairly easy to do. So
187 00:20:00.720 ⇒ 00:20:25.560 Uttam Kumaran: what’s probably what it’s looking like is like, we’ll probably end up like closing that like work flow. So I’ll I’ll be. I’ll be kind of thinking over the next 2 days like communicating with Patrick and thinking about what happens next. But the other thing I the other thing we’ve done is Jacob is really, really talented at handling anything related to analysis, and even the dashboards. So.
188 00:20:25.560 ⇒ 00:20:25.930 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
189 00:20:25.930 ⇒ 00:20:34.400 Uttam Kumaran: I’m not worried about maintaining those. I’m just worried about. Okay. We signed up. We have, like so many things we’re working on for them.
190 00:20:34.660 ⇒ 00:20:42.130 Uttam Kumaran: If if we don’t have that workflow going, then it’s like who’s assigned to what and like, how much work do we appropriately take on?
191 00:20:42.525 ⇒ 00:20:48.359 Uttam Kumaran: So those are the things that I wanna make sure. But again, still, like, I wanna really push the fact that, like
192 00:20:48.560 ⇒ 00:20:52.265 Uttam Kumaran: they’re not using the dashboards daily yet. And there is still data model issues
193 00:20:52.660 ⇒ 00:21:00.689 Uttam Kumaran: and honestly try to find out like, if it’s not me fixing them, then who on the team is capable of it, and we’ll kind of talk a little bit about
194 00:21:00.850 ⇒ 00:21:10.470 Uttam Kumaran: the team and everything. But those are the big things. I think the second thing is prioritization and building a longer roadmap. This is a big client, but you know
195 00:21:10.590 ⇒ 00:21:17.170 Uttam Kumaran: they’re willing to have conversations about what they want to do longer term. So we can really build towards this?
196 00:21:17.740 ⇒ 00:21:25.889 Uttam Kumaran: And yeah, the data visits just related to kind of what we talked about the text. So the text message, I’ll have to figure out in the next like.
197 00:21:25.980 ⇒ 00:21:32.100 Uttam Kumaran: Probably this week I’ll kind of put up together a little bit of a proposal for Ben, and think about
198 00:21:34.030 ⇒ 00:21:42.329 Uttam Kumaran: hey? Like, if we want to close that off, this is how many hours I think it’s gonna take to maintain the existing dashboards. And honestly, I’m gonna tell them that.
199 00:21:42.350 ⇒ 00:21:44.739 Uttam Kumaran: like a lot of the data model work.
200 00:21:44.920 ⇒ 00:22:01.270 Uttam Kumaran: really, we’re gonna have still have a couple of things like the data models. We’re gonna have data engineering tasks. And then we’re gonna have some database. And I wanna feel like we’re currently we’re currently booked for 20 HA week. And we’re working way. More than that.
201 00:22:01.640 ⇒ 00:22:03.949 Uttam Kumaran: given all the tasks, we wanna do.
202 00:22:04.010 ⇒ 00:22:08.969 Uttam Kumaran: we need to make a decision? Either you can have us for more time or like.
203 00:22:09.530 ⇒ 00:22:10.780 Nicolas Sucari: Use this call? Yeah, yeah.
204 00:22:11.078 ⇒ 00:22:23.160 Nicolas Sucari: yeah. But I think, like, in order to have that discussion, it would be like, super useful if we can understand, like, what is all of the backloop that we have for now. So do we understand, like, what is the work that we are.
205 00:22:23.160 ⇒ 00:22:24.010 Uttam Kumaran: Like.
206 00:22:24.010 ⇒ 00:22:24.450 Nicolas Sucari: Time.
207 00:22:24.450 ⇒ 00:22:24.920 Uttam Kumaran: Good.
208 00:22:24.920 ⇒ 00:22:39.104 Nicolas Sucari: Their expectations so that we can give a clarity like, okay, hey? You requested all of these. We’re still missing like these 3 points. Okay, how we’re gonna manage to work on that. If we only have like, 20 HA week, probably we can have like more.
209 00:22:39.620 ⇒ 00:22:48.859 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, more stuff to show them like, okay, we need to work on all of this stuff, and with 20 HA week it’s not possible, or it is possible. But the delivery times will get a little bit longer.
210 00:22:48.860 ⇒ 00:22:50.499 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yes.
211 00:22:50.540 ⇒ 00:22:55.949 Uttam Kumaran: perfect. The okay, so that’s on cool parts on asset link.
212 00:22:56.030 ⇒ 00:23:00.349 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like, I wanna see Devon and that team using real and getting value at it.
213 00:23:00.520 ⇒ 00:23:14.020 Uttam Kumaran: Continue to build up the data model backlog. And then the AI developments. We’ll talk a little bit about like, I think, separating these from like how it’s going. Now, these are the goals. So we can talk a little bit about like
214 00:23:14.170 ⇒ 00:23:19.750 Uttam Kumaran: which one of these are are kind of like feeling at risk. But the other thing I kind of want to do is like
215 00:23:19.850 ⇒ 00:23:29.844 Uttam Kumaran: when we said, like targets and goals every week, we check in on these every month. I want it to be like, which are green lights and which are like red, basically like that way.
216 00:23:30.170 ⇒ 00:23:32.330 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t need to go chase their greens.
217 00:23:32.930 ⇒ 00:23:33.380 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, yeah, but.
218 00:23:33.380 ⇒ 00:23:34.359 Uttam Kumaran: Events right?
219 00:23:34.910 ⇒ 00:23:57.563 Uttam Kumaran: And so that’s kind of how I think we’ll end up doing things. And then, Stella, I think there’s still a lot of room. One is, I think, just like having a relationship between you, Nick and Robert, and like making sure that that’s like settled, I know, like we’ve had like some meetings, and there’s been a lot of stuff going on with between me and Robert and the client. It’s just been kind of a nightmare. Honestly.
220 00:23:57.850 ⇒ 00:23:58.180 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
221 00:23:58.180 ⇒ 00:24:03.900 Uttam Kumaran: That being said like, I still think there’s opportunity. So the one thing I want to figure out is like
222 00:24:04.110 ⇒ 00:24:09.249 Uttam Kumaran: one. Do we have enough like, are we actually able from like.
223 00:24:09.360 ⇒ 00:24:19.619 Uttam Kumaran: I think this is more a broader question that, like I’ll kind of leave to you, is like from a project management standpoint? Are we able to actually give each of these the attention they need, or is like
224 00:24:19.970 ⇒ 00:24:30.040 Uttam Kumaran: like, how do we feel confident to to tackle? Like all the like tasks related to scoping and delivery. For all 3 of these. The second thing is like
225 00:24:30.320 ⇒ 00:24:35.469 Uttam Kumaran: for Stella. There’s been a lot of changes in like the project plan overall, for one thing, is like.
226 00:24:35.470 ⇒ 00:24:37.259 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, but really, it’s like.
227 00:24:37.260 ⇒ 00:24:40.700 Uttam Kumaran: Making sure that we have like, what do we sign up for? And like what?
228 00:24:40.960 ⇒ 00:24:48.340 Uttam Kumaran: What’s each of the things? And making sure that that doesn’t change. It’s been changing. And Robert kind of freaks out unnecessarily. So.
229 00:24:49.645 ⇒ 00:25:03.679 Nicolas Sucari: The only thing with Stella is I I still need to understand, like what Stella does. I I am. I have no idea what they they do as business. But also the thing with Stella is like we have. We are like behind Robert, right?
230 00:25:04.469 ⇒ 00:25:06.319 Nicolas Sucari: So if he can’t like.
231 00:25:06.430 ⇒ 00:25:08.459 Nicolas Sucari: give us the accurate
232 00:25:08.480 ⇒ 00:25:25.180 Nicolas Sucari: things that we need to work on. I mean it. It’s on him, I mean he. He needs to give us clarity, and we can request him to give us like that clarity of scope. Of what are the next task that we wanna? That that we need to work on and probably request for him to like.
233 00:25:25.490 ⇒ 00:25:26.379 Uttam Kumaran: This is roadmap.
234 00:25:26.380 ⇒ 00:25:31.027 Nicolas Sucari: With Stella, yeah, and to fill us, that’s happy because we we need that information from him. If we can.
235 00:25:31.547 ⇒ 00:25:37.009 Uttam Kumaran: Let us access the client, then we can’t run through the same process that we typically do.
236 00:25:37.580 ⇒ 00:25:56.279 Nicolas Sucari: Totally. He’s kind of our product owner from Stella, even though he’s not from Stella, and he like. He needs to understand that if he doesn’t give us the like, the right scope of things, the backlog that we need, the roadmap that we need to follow like we are not gonna be able to deliver the way he wants, and when the client needs.
237 00:25:56.280 ⇒ 00:26:04.440 Uttam Kumaran: No, and we already we already see it, because, like the security things that happen like there was, I didn’t have any understanding of that when we 1st started, and I asked.
238 00:26:04.440 ⇒ 00:26:04.900 Nicolas Sucari: Jackie.
239 00:26:04.900 ⇒ 00:26:07.030 Uttam Kumaran: And there was nothing like specified. So
240 00:26:07.920 ⇒ 00:26:19.027 Uttam Kumaran: like, yeah, I mean, that’s yeah. That’s where it’s like, really a bummer, because we’re losing part of time, just like sitting So
241 00:26:20.290 ⇒ 00:26:43.569 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I think I think we can like for for specifically for Stella, I mean, we need to have like this backlog session or presentation with Robert, too, I mean specifically with, so so that he can let us know how we can help. We need to know, to follow that road map and the right work they are requesting.
242 00:26:43.820 ⇒ 00:26:44.420 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
243 00:26:45.590 ⇒ 00:26:52.579 Nicolas Sucari: Even though the request comes through Robert, I mean, that’s fine, but he can. He needs to give us, like the clarity of what we need to do.
244 00:26:53.080 ⇒ 00:26:53.790 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
245 00:26:55.000 ⇒ 00:27:06.340 Uttam Kumaran: And then I guess, like overall one, I guess I was just gonna ask from you, like, kind of a pulse check like, how do you feel? Things are going like I mean, you always have a good attitude, I can already tell. So
246 00:27:06.755 ⇒ 00:27:12.380 Uttam Kumaran: but I for me, I’m looking for like, now that you’re a few weeks in
247 00:27:12.510 ⇒ 00:27:21.179 Uttam Kumaran: like, has any of your assumptions changed, or, like you kind of see the world a little bit differently? Or are you still kind of like in a little bit of like a figuring it out, or.
248 00:27:21.660 ⇒ 00:27:27.062 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I think it it. It’s going really, really good. I mean, I’m really into this new
249 00:27:27.500 ⇒ 00:27:33.818 Nicolas Sucari: world for me. I it’s really interesting. I’m learning a lot. I I think we have like,
250 00:27:34.740 ⇒ 00:27:41.599 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, we have like 4 people, Ryan, Patrick, Augustine and Jacob, and like, we can
251 00:27:41.690 ⇒ 00:28:04.060 Nicolas Sucari: deliver more. That’s what I’m seeing right? Probably because yeah, or or I don’t know if we can deliver more, because they are all all working like part time, but I think like we can get more done and more like valuable for the clients like I. I am not. I am not feeling that the clients are like really appreciating what we are doing.
252 00:28:04.323 ⇒ 00:28:14.612 Nicolas Sucari: And we can do it because I’m seeing with Jacob, with Patrick and with Brian, and also with agus that they know what they are doing. They are good at it, and like we can deliver like better things.
253 00:28:15.750 ⇒ 00:28:25.913 Nicolas Sucari: That’s like my 1st like sense of everything about that. But yeah, I’m I mean for me. It’s I’m learning a lot. I’m trying to
254 00:28:26.700 ⇒ 00:28:35.179 Nicolas Sucari: be up to date with all of the communications and all of the clients. I need a little bit more of context at some point. Yeah, of the clients.
255 00:28:35.493 ⇒ 00:28:42.020 Nicolas Sucari: But yeah, I think that will will come with time. I I don’t wanna get too anxious to. I know I can get.
256 00:28:42.020 ⇒ 00:28:57.069 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, no! And like no, no, no, I think you’re told. I mean, I would say, like, I’m always gonna be very like my attitude around is very more like practical, and probably Eric on like pessimistic, which is always gonna it’s always gonna be like.
257 00:28:57.180 ⇒ 00:29:02.710 Uttam Kumaran: I think something’s about to go wrong, and that’s just cause. That’s that’s I have to be a little bit nervous also.
258 00:29:02.710 ⇒ 00:29:03.170 Nicolas Sucari: Like, yeah.
259 00:29:03.170 ⇒ 00:29:23.050 Uttam Kumaran: To to find where the issues are. And that’s the thing of balance. Right? Like, I think there’s there’s gonna be a balance. There’s gonna be things that I think are huge problems that you may say that’s totally fine, and the other of the other way around. So again, like as long as we have balance together, and we’re kind of like meeting every day and doing it. I think we’re gonna be totally great.
260 00:29:23.050 ⇒ 00:29:34.050 Nicolas Sucari: No, I think we’re gonna be great. I mean, I’m I’m optimistic of the work that you’re doing. I think that we can deliver. But yeah, that’s the end. That’s the point that what I’m seeing like we can deliver more, I think.
261 00:29:34.480 ⇒ 00:29:35.470 Uttam Kumaran: Migraine.
262 00:29:36.450 ⇒ 00:29:43.873 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. But we need to. You know, what I’m seeing is that we we I know we can deliver more. But we need like to
263 00:29:44.650 ⇒ 00:30:12.259 Nicolas Sucari: explain better what we need from for for each clients to the guys so that they can like actually deliver to her. Because when we, when we did it like with Jacob, and he’s like doing these proverse consumers analysis and all this stuff like he’s doing a great job because he has all the insights. He knows. What is the questions that he needs to ask to the client? But yeah, but when we don’t have like that backlog ready scoped out for everyone. It’s kind of a little bit
264 00:30:12.260 ⇒ 00:30:15.229 Nicolas Sucari: messy, and we try to understand what are.
265 00:30:15.230 ⇒ 00:30:16.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s completely heavy.
266 00:30:16.070 ⇒ 00:30:18.969 Nicolas Sucari: Daily basis, and it should be more like a flow.
267 00:30:19.740 ⇒ 00:30:38.829 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think the last I mean, I think I I agree. I think a lot of it has been just like making sure my time is free to do that, I think like as you can tell in my day, like some days, is like an absolute, like psychotic, right? And so it’s like, I.
268 00:30:38.830 ⇒ 00:30:40.250 Nicolas Sucari: I know, I know.
269 00:30:40.250 ⇒ 00:31:04.089 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, but I, what I’m trying to say is, actually you coming on and ramping up is now I’m able to buy back some of my time now. Right? So it’s like all the emails that you’ve been sending. That’s what I was previously doing. Like. Actually, I’m even in the past 2 weeks. I’m feeling a lot more free. And now that time that time is gonna just translate more to this. But at the same time I’m still doing, spending several hours a day doing sales, related things like meetings.
270 00:31:04.090 ⇒ 00:31:10.689 Uttam Kumaran: getting the clients following up with stuff. So that is always gonna that’s all. So ad hoc, like it’s.
271 00:31:11.020 ⇒ 00:31:11.530 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I know.
272 00:31:11.530 ⇒ 00:31:20.049 Uttam Kumaran: If someone calls is like, you want to talk, it’s like, Yeah, I’m gonna take every call that someone puts on my calendar. The same time is like, I also need to understand.
273 00:31:20.260 ⇒ 00:31:28.779 Uttam Kumaran: you know, in my process, to change where we have like, okay, Mondays are just for like triage, like, that’s all we do on Monday, like Block, do some of those blocks?
274 00:31:29.183 ⇒ 00:31:58.790 Uttam Kumaran: Because life and this travel stuff, you know, that’s gonna be constant not like this aggressively. But it’s always gonna be stuff. So I wanna make sure during the week that, like where I need to be is like conducive to our process that we wanna run right. And if it’s like full Fridays is all triage. And then that’s what we do. Our Fridays. I see I’m actually way more fine with that level of consistency. You know. And so I prefer that, because then they kind of like, then every day I’m not like thinking about like, oh, we have to do this, then it’s like Fridays, is all what we do.
275 00:31:58.790 ⇒ 00:31:59.870 Nicolas Sucari: So, yeah, that’s why.
276 00:31:59.870 ⇒ 00:32:00.210 Uttam Kumaran: Like I think.
277 00:32:00.210 ⇒ 00:32:01.170 Nicolas Sucari: So I think we can.
278 00:32:01.290 ⇒ 00:32:18.960 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I think that’s perfect. And yeah, it’s obviously I’m more free now because I’m don’t have like a lot of meetings as you do. But it just let me know when is like the best time for you, and we can schedule that like planning me planning session or try session, and we can scope out. And because that will help us Fo.
279 00:32:19.100 ⇒ 00:32:32.830 Nicolas Sucari: or only for starter points, I think it will help us like to get in a yeah, to to start working in a way that we can make that things recurrent. So once we have, like the backlog. More kind of
280 00:32:33.128 ⇒ 00:32:43.340 Nicolas Sucari: stabilize, and everyone got their tasks. We know what the clients wants, and we are delivering. Probably then we can do changes, but I think, for now, like it’s necessary, and that will help us a lot. Yeah.
281 00:32:44.629 ⇒ 00:32:49.729 Uttam Kumaran: And then I guess I was gonna ask, like, how did individual discussions with every
282 00:32:49.760 ⇒ 00:32:50.960 Uttam Kumaran: person go.
283 00:32:51.700 ⇒ 00:32:57.989 Nicolas Sucari: They went really well, excellent with Ryan. He like explained me a lot of things that
284 00:32:58.313 ⇒ 00:33:22.266 Nicolas Sucari: about Dbt. Snowflake, the the visualization dashboards and everything like that. That I was like, yeah, really needing to understand a little bit more of the tools. And how like all of the process behind what we do were is is what is going on. So that went great. I also yeah. Meet with Patrick. Discuss a little bit more on pull parts, on what is he? He was working on?
285 00:33:22.960 ⇒ 00:33:48.019 Nicolas Sucari: with right, with Jacob, the same like we focus on the task that he has right now, and also with Agus with the AI stuff and what he’s doing for pull parts, too. But yeah, I think I still need like more time to get to know to everybody, get a little bit more of confidence, speaking with them and understanding what they are doing, so that they I can have, like a little bit more of context to discuss stuff with them. But yeah, I think it’s perfect. Today we have like a great
286 00:33:48.020 ⇒ 00:33:57.759 Nicolas Sucari: team meeting with Brian and Patrick discussing this kind of cyber cyber security, understanding what kind of stuff we need and trying. I I’m always trying to
287 00:33:57.820 ⇒ 00:34:13.405 Nicolas Sucari: to to ask for them like, if we have like these processes of I don’t know documenting something that they late let me know, so that I can start like accumulating that information in notion, and we can prepare something for the clients with that, too. Yup.
288 00:34:13.730 ⇒ 00:34:28.660 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, perfect. Yeah. And I think the biggest thing is like, one is like, I wanna make sure that we make a decision on project management and like the tooling and stuff. So maybe that’s something that I know still kind of floating. But I wanna make sure that
289 00:34:28.690 ⇒ 00:34:48.479 Uttam Kumaran: one is like, how do we know what tasks are? In what state? And we have some process for that? Now do we need to use a different tool like, I guess again that’s that decision I’ve already. I know I’ve asked a couple of times, but just wanna make sure that, like we’re we’re in a good place there before cause we’re changing a lot of processes, good opportunity to consider everything.
290 00:34:48.489 ⇒ 00:34:48.979 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
291 00:34:48.980 ⇒ 00:35:02.549 Uttam Kumaran: And then the second thing is, and this can be, you know, more, with long thing to just have in your head this month is thinking about it soon. And the one thing I’ve been talking to some people about, you know, after you joined is like, you know. I think
292 00:35:02.550 ⇒ 00:35:26.979 Uttam Kumaran: one thing is, it’s easy to, you know. Just bring anybody. It’s it’s 1 thing like I, you know, we’re. I think we’re lucky to bring you on, but I wanna make sure that this is a team that you didn’t have a choice in assembly right? And it’s like kinda the way I described it is like you’re on the basketball team and you’re a coach, and then you didn’t get a chance of getting the players. And then the players suck. Then who’s got who’s at fall right to find the GM. Right? Usually.
293 00:35:27.090 ⇒ 00:35:40.090 Uttam Kumaran: So the one thing I wanna make sure, and this isn’t like a firing or hiring or anything, but it’s more about like you having confidence that this is the team that you believe can execute your vision right? And so that’s the
294 00:35:40.140 ⇒ 00:35:45.559 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll leave you with that to think about. But I also take that very seriously. This is just a group of people that.
295 00:35:45.560 ⇒ 00:35:45.880 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
296 00:35:45.880 ⇒ 00:36:11.489 Uttam Kumaran: You know we’ve we’ve gone, but now that we’re the business stabilizing a little bit, we have some room to to, you know. Just make sure. This is a great thing. I get it. If we can do more with less this this opportunity to do that. If we wanna bring people on multiple time. I think again, like I’ll be able to provide like what the financial side of the point is. But I wanna make sure that this is a team that you can work with, and you feel confident
297 00:36:11.510 ⇒ 00:36:24.530 Uttam Kumaran: can execute what we need, whether we’re a week away from that, or still like a month or 2 away from that. That’s fine. But you have like. That’s something that I would like for you to think about and consider as like.
298 00:36:24.530 ⇒ 00:36:24.950 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.
299 00:36:24.950 ⇒ 00:36:26.640 Uttam Kumaran: Option, you know.
300 00:36:26.640 ⇒ 00:36:36.830 Nicolas Sucari: Total, totally totally. And I I’m gonna be like, super honest with that. If I’m seeing that we need like to change, or we need more people, or we need less people. I will let you know. I mean.
301 00:36:36.830 ⇒ 00:36:37.280 Uttam Kumaran: That’s.
302 00:36:37.567 ⇒ 00:37:00.819 Nicolas Sucari: I’m still like trying to understand all, everyone and how they work. But I think like they can deliver like great work. But we just need like to guide them a little bit more on what we need them to do. Once we do that, and if we are seeing that someone is not like responding. How we wanted. Okay, we can like, I I will tell you like, Hey, we were expecting this. We are not getting these
303 00:37:00.820 ⇒ 00:37:08.900 Nicolas Sucari: we need to change. But if not, I think, for now I think we’re okay. Yup. And as I said, I think we there is like bandwidth to like, do more stuff.
304 00:37:09.422 ⇒ 00:37:16.219 Nicolas Sucari: Or, yeah, that’s what I’m like, my first, st like, yeah, I don’t know.
305 00:37:16.500 ⇒ 00:37:23.019 Nicolas Sucari: I need to to be more in contact with with everyone in the team. But I think if we can have, like that
306 00:37:23.710 ⇒ 00:37:32.859 Nicolas Sucari: idea of what are the next tasks for everyone, it will be helpful, and we will see a little bit more if they are delivering. They’re not on what we need to do with the team.
307 00:37:33.475 ⇒ 00:37:33.900 Nicolas Sucari: Yep.
308 00:37:34.750 ⇒ 00:37:45.529 Nicolas Sucari: obviously, if there are new clients. We should like understand what we can do for for new clients, what is needed from the new clients, and how much time do we got do we get from each of
309 00:37:45.540 ⇒ 00:37:47.489 Nicolas Sucari: our team members right? But.
310 00:37:47.490 ⇒ 00:37:48.020 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly. Yeah.
311 00:37:48.020 ⇒ 00:37:51.590 Nicolas Sucari: Think that is like an analysis that we need to do if we have
312 00:37:51.600 ⇒ 00:37:53.910 Nicolas Sucari: when we, when we scope out new clients.
313 00:37:54.280 ⇒ 00:38:14.882 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay. Looks like my flight is gonna start boarding soon. But I’ll be working for the next few hours. I’m gonna mainly focus on getting the nda done, and then we can, you know, have a tick in the backlog around this sort of security related documentation. But yeah, no, I appreciate you kinda handling things while I’m out and
314 00:38:15.220 ⇒ 00:38:15.850 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, no. Problem.
315 00:38:15.850 ⇒ 00:38:25.699 Uttam Kumaran: It’s kind of. It’s kind of frantic like I’ve been travel last 3 weeks, which is like insane. And I’m like not probably again, for a few weeks, which is great. But
316 00:38:26.020 ⇒ 00:38:31.419 Uttam Kumaran: I again, I think, in the last, even just week, having you take on a lot of stuff, will be really helpful, so appreciate it.
317 00:38:31.420 ⇒ 00:38:33.890 Nicolas Sucari: Excellent. Thank you. Thank you. Tom. Yeah. Okay.
318 00:38:33.890 ⇒ 00:38:34.510 Uttam Kumaran: As we know.
319 00:38:34.510 ⇒ 00:38:41.050 Nicolas Sucari: If you need anything else, I’ll be talking to Agus. He wants to show me what he’s been doing for the AI boat.
320 00:38:41.738 ⇒ 00:38:45.561 Nicolas Sucari: So yeah, if I find something super useful, I’ll let you know.
321 00:38:46.195 ⇒ 00:38:48.719 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, thanks. Nico. Talk to you on site.
322 00:38:48.720 ⇒ 00:38:50.840 Nicolas Sucari: Bye, have a good flight. Bye.