Meeting Title: Uttam <> Cletus - Test-Intro Date: 2024-01-26 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:14:43.080 ⇒ 00:14:44.110 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Hello, sir.
2 00:14:44.820 ⇒ 00:14:46.040 Uttam Kumaran: my friend.
3 00:14:46.690 ⇒ 00:14:51.839 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: you’re not gonna believe this shit. Power’s still down. But
4 00:14:52.350 ⇒ 00:14:56.650 Uttam Kumaran: you’re good. I was. I was just. I was just looking at the intro and everything.
5 00:14:56.950 ⇒ 00:15:04.009 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Okay, let me go. I think I still have it pulled up to my computer cool.
6 00:15:04.610 ⇒ 00:15:08.490 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: So I could just do this all mobile
7 00:15:10.670 ⇒ 00:15:21.290 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: dude. I was just talking to people about that. I was like, I don’t know. It seems like a lot of fucking work.
8 00:15:22.800 ⇒ 00:15:23.820 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Well.
9 00:15:24.140 ⇒ 00:15:45.969 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: we, we really it is, we realize, like the only house we could really type reason we could get like a house we like wanted our like dream home if we had to get something that we basically needed to completely update. Yeah, yeah, that’s what I mean, it’s like, if you’re if you’re down for that. Then it’s like, okay. But yeah, sometime, like, I’m thinking about renting a house summer. And I’m like.
10 00:15:46.180 ⇒ 00:15:58.870 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I can’t deal with the shit breaks like, I’m not in the mode I’m like, not in the mode like I had to like. Do you know what this is? This is? How you could figure out which outlet is connected to which breaker
11 00:15:59.040 ⇒ 00:16:04.869 Uttam Kumaran: like, I didn’t know that a month ago.
12 00:16:05.010 ⇒ 00:16:07.589 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, that’s a fresh. That’s a fresh sweater.
13 00:16:08.380 ⇒ 00:16:19.429 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Thanks. Scott. so yeah, it’s a it’s a
14 00:16:19.580 ⇒ 00:16:21.960 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: it’s a shit show.
15 00:16:22.210 ⇒ 00:16:23.210 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: But
16 00:16:23.950 ⇒ 00:16:27.829 Uttam Kumaran: I saw the I saw that Linkedin post that you’ve just posted or like
17 00:16:28.140 ⇒ 00:16:37.279 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: whatever that came out about the CEO or about Isn’t that? That’s pretty cool.
18 00:16:37.290 ⇒ 00:16:38.640 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: certainly. Is that
19 00:16:40.020 ⇒ 00:16:42.270 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: some pickups
20 00:16:44.490 ⇒ 00:16:46.990 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: That’s fun!
21 00:16:48.450 ⇒ 00:17:00.119 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Me! See here, I’m pulling up the intro. What d’you think like? So I so I tried to bring like a little bit of like seriousness, and I know we’ll put all our own
22 00:17:00.150 ⇒ 00:17:11.319 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: twist on this, but keeping true to what we’re doing. I use the AI I saw, I think we should.
23 00:17:11.599 ⇒ 00:17:22.990 Uttam Kumaran: So I made a couple of changes. The one thing I think we should. II think we should. Maybe we should talk about maybe the concept. Or do you want to talk about that later, like, I think we should say something about like.
24 00:17:23.160 ⇒ 00:17:35.530 Uttam Kumaran: we are also using AI to pretty much build the entire podcast. From logos. Like, I, I don’t know if that’s worth like, if there’s like a catchy like 5. Second way of explaining that.
25 00:17:36.340 ⇒ 00:17:40.079 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I, you know, here’s here’s what I was thinking about that
26 00:17:41.060 ⇒ 00:17:48.929 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: that’s like the trailer. Right? So you put up the trailer and you promote that everywhere and sell the concept of it. And then I think.
27 00:17:49.520 ⇒ 00:17:56.790 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: like we talk about that within the first couple of episodes. So people really understand? Yeah.
28 00:17:58.060 ⇒ 00:18:05.350 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: But like, if this is the intro, the the point of it, like you, you know, like, you say, yesterday is to just like kinda
29 00:18:05.600 ⇒ 00:18:13.800 Uttam Kumaran: we could also do an episode about content or podcasts and then talk about all the
30 00:18:14.610 ⇒ 00:18:17.039 Uttam Kumaran: yeah kind of met a episode.
31 00:18:18.020 ⇒ 00:18:19.260 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I think that makes sense.
32 00:18:22.720 ⇒ 00:18:27.920 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: it’s not
33 00:18:28.920 ⇒ 00:18:31.040 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: you want to.
34 00:18:31.930 ⇒ 00:18:37.340 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: So you made some tweaks. Let’s do you wanna get you want to get into the episode, or you wanna do the the intro
35 00:18:38.210 ⇒ 00:18:43.589 Uttam Kumaran: I think we should. Just we should. We should. We should try to do the intro.
36 00:18:44.440 ⇒ 00:18:45.270 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Okay.
37 00:18:45.740 ⇒ 00:18:49.960 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: let’s you put the changes you want in, or you didn’t leave Miss Conference right?
38 00:18:49.970 ⇒ 00:18:53.550 Uttam Kumaran: I just. I just made it. I just put it in directly.
39 00:18:53.670 ⇒ 00:18:55.630 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Good, perfect. Good. Good
40 00:18:56.670 ⇒ 00:19:11.509 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: like. I guess I mean, we don’t like this is like Intro about us. I guess we don’t really need to talk too much about us.
41 00:19:15.290 ⇒ 00:19:20.090 Uttam Kumaran: I mainly just wanted to say, like, I’m an engineer. That kind of sets the scene.
42 00:19:20.130 ⇒ 00:19:21.220 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah.
43 00:19:22.340 ⇒ 00:19:24.480 Uttam Kumaran: I think you should say, like, I’m a marketer.
44 00:19:25.070 ⇒ 00:19:27.129 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Okay, cool. Yeah, let’s change it.
45 00:19:32.240 ⇒ 00:19:36.130 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Hmm. nucleus. I’m a marketer uses. AI,
46 00:19:36.780 ⇒ 00:19:49.190 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I think, yeah, I like it. Yeah, each week will be diving to amazing world artificial intelligence. So talking about AI, that dresses you up, clicks for you and even gets you moving.
47 00:19:49.320 ⇒ 00:19:54.920 Uttam Kumaran: That’s right. Imagine a personal fashion advisor in your pocket, picking up perfect outfit.
48 00:19:56.930 ⇒ 00:19:57.790 Uttam Kumaran: perfect
49 00:20:18.100 ⇒ 00:20:36.489 Uttam Kumaran: tastes better your tastes.
50 00:20:36.660 ⇒ 00:20:37.680 Uttam Kumaran: header.
51 00:20:37.980 ⇒ 00:20:41.289 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: and you do suggest delicious recipe
52 00:20:47.310 ⇒ 00:20:49.589 Uttam Kumaran: point. Yeah, we can’t. Opinions
53 00:20:49.920 ⇒ 00:20:52.579 Uttam Kumaran: that Taylor exercises.
54 00:21:03.210 ⇒ 00:21:04.570 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: You know what?
55 00:21:06.160 ⇒ 00:21:09.080 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah, yeah. Umhm.
56 00:21:12.360 ⇒ 00:21:19.439 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: this is Aie. And we’re gonna have to. Yeah, I know.
57 00:21:20.310 ⇒ 00:21:26.350 Uttam Kumaran: I agree. That’s why I’m trying to like, get. I’m trying to say it and like, Figure out, okay, cut out a couple of words.
58 00:21:32.880 ⇒ 00:21:37.109 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: And I figured we would just use this as a guide and kind of riff.
59 00:22:03.780 ⇒ 00:22:06.800 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna listen to one other intro.
60 00:23:00.840 ⇒ 00:23:04.740 Uttam Kumaran: maybe we should say, maybe we should lead with this.
61 00:23:12.600 ⇒ 00:23:17.230 Uttam Kumaran: I wish to say, welcome to am, I made this, podcast the show where.
62 00:23:19.040 ⇒ 00:23:20.030 Uttam Kumaran: like.
63 00:23:21.610 ⇒ 00:23:23.099 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, something like that.
64 00:23:26.920 ⇒ 00:23:27.780 This is the one
65 00:23:35.030 ⇒ 00:23:44.710 Uttam Kumaran: we see.
66 00:23:48.190 ⇒ 00:23:51.160 Uttam Kumaran: 2 days in a row. But construct
67 00:23:57.970 ⇒ 00:24:04.930 Uttam Kumaran: a lot more when we catch up with friends about what’s going on right now, because even when our boss is over, there’s always lots more.
68 00:24:05.170 ⇒ 00:24:09.790 Uttam Kumaran: We really do have vertical touching
69 00:24:11.110 ⇒ 00:24:12.769 Uttam Kumaran: welcome to lots more. What do you?
70 00:24:13.170 ⇒ 00:24:16.979 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, well, yeah, I made this. Podcast
71 00:24:17.900 ⇒ 00:24:19.410 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: so
72 00:24:21.390 ⇒ 00:24:27.700 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I think we with this new edit, it gets into it a lot faster how we’re gonna be talking about how this like changes are.
73 00:24:28.040 ⇒ 00:24:30.060 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: how this stuff helps every day.
74 00:24:30.150 ⇒ 00:24:32.869 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: But I think this part under
75 00:24:33.410 ⇒ 00:24:39.159 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: the fourth part where I’m talking right instead of just doing the third like, that’s right, even if
76 00:24:39.450 ⇒ 00:24:41.290 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: yeah.
77 00:24:41.350 ⇒ 00:24:51.799 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Oh, no, the AI chef, and that no, the 6 part. And let’s so forget about seeing fit. Instead of that, we just say, like. I wonder if you just cut if you just do this.
78 00:24:52.200 ⇒ 00:24:54.539 Uttam Kumaran: or yeah, if you just say like.
79 00:24:57.330 ⇒ 00:25:00.050 Uttam Kumaran: and then, okay, so one thing I want to put here is maybe like.
80 00:25:04.900 ⇒ 00:25:07.559 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t know. Let’s say.
81 00:25:07.710 ⇒ 00:25:12.410 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: yeah, maybe we just dive right into like, maybe we just talk about the piece like.
82 00:25:12.670 ⇒ 00:25:21.489 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: you know, like, techn, you know, tech companies are using AI, but it’s just starting to change the way people leave their everyday lives. So we’re here to talk about all the
83 00:25:22.560 ⇒ 00:25:26.449 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: the coolest features, the biggest duds, or something like that.
84 00:25:28.600 ⇒ 00:25:31.829 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s do that, I think, okay. So I think we should.
85 00:25:33.860 ⇒ 00:25:35.060 Uttam Kumaran: But like
86 00:25:37.520 ⇒ 00:25:38.950 Uttam Kumaran: like there’s
87 00:25:41.640 ⇒ 00:25:45.250 Uttam Kumaran: and then here we should say something like that in the middle here.
88 00:25:46.080 ⇒ 00:25:51.499 Uttam Kumaran: like each week, we’ll be diving to the latest AI, and how people are using to make their lives easier.
89 00:25:51.790 ⇒ 00:25:53.130 Uttam Kumaran: And
90 00:25:55.490 ⇒ 00:25:57.840 Uttam Kumaran: and then I can say maybe a thing about
91 00:26:02.480 ⇒ 00:26:14.369 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: yeah, why don’t I just do this next line, too? Each week will be dining in, and then you can get into like. because, like just doing like one sentence at a time is gonna turn a little talk, Radioy.
92 00:26:16.030 ⇒ 00:26:20.280 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: So this is like. maybe just pop this as a part
93 00:26:20.550 ⇒ 00:26:25.140 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: here. And then you explain like the practicalness.
94 00:26:25.370 ⇒ 00:26:27.870 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I’ll say something like
95 00:26:35.140 ⇒ 00:26:37.199 Uttam Kumaran: you might. Or let me think.
96 00:27:19.110 ⇒ 00:28:50.990 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: it’s AI, and how people are using it to
97 00:28:53.440 ⇒ 00:28:55.040 Uttam Kumaran: deadline. It’s easier.
98 00:28:55.130 ⇒ 00:28:57.380 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
99 00:29:09.710 ⇒ 00:29:11.829 Uttam Kumaran: I think you should just say you’re a marketer.
100 00:29:13.710 ⇒ 00:29:16.340 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah, you’re right. It’s not.
101 00:29:20.290 ⇒ 00:29:26.359 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. AI transform. Yeah, I must want it could be fun for you to be like AI transformed.
102 00:29:27.100 ⇒ 00:29:28.510 Uttam Kumaran: How I work
103 00:29:32.140 ⇒ 00:29:45.159 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. It seems how you work, too. Right? Yeah, no, no, no, that’s I mean? Yeah, definitely. Oh, you meant we by like both of us.
104 00:29:45.360 ⇒ 00:29:50.500 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I thought even we buy like the collective species.
105 00:29:50.630 ⇒ 00:29:56.949 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: not yet not the royal week.
106 00:30:02.590 ⇒ 00:30:12.670 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: To give you sense of a lot of the other content that’s out there now
107 00:30:12.800 ⇒ 00:30:14.999 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: is focused on
108 00:30:15.380 ⇒ 00:30:16.390 Uttam Kumaran: work.
109 00:30:16.770 ⇒ 00:30:25.790 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: So it would be great to even say, that is like AI isn’t just for big temp companies, or for
110 00:30:27.750 ⇒ 00:30:30.219 Uttam Kumaran: or for like writing papers.
111 00:30:37.680 ⇒ 00:30:41.359 Uttam Kumaran: It can do a whole lot more.
112 00:30:41.680 ⇒ 00:30:44.209 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: No, no, it’s not good
113 00:30:53.600 ⇒ 00:30:58.749 Uttam Kumaran: from how we work. Let’s just start to change how we live our lives every day.
114 00:31:01.700 ⇒ 00:31:06.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I transform how it works. It’s just like change. How
115 00:31:09.540 ⇒ 00:31:12.729 Uttam Kumaran: each group will be dying to latest AI, and how people
116 00:31:13.890 ⇒ 00:31:15.220 Uttam Kumaran: are using it to make
117 00:31:16.940 ⇒ 00:31:22.579 Uttam Kumaran: easier. It hasn’t just for the big tech companies or for writing papers, do a whole lot more.
118 00:31:24.880 ⇒ 00:31:26.370 Uttam Kumaran: Actually, how works
119 00:31:54.960 ⇒ 00:31:56.910 Uttam Kumaran: if you almost wanna do it? That?
120 00:32:35.840 ⇒ 00:32:37.790 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah.
121 00:32:40.190 ⇒ 00:32:41.500 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: okay.
122 00:32:48.140 ⇒ 00:32:49.510 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Policy, right?
123 00:32:53.260 ⇒ 00:32:54.110 French.
124 00:33:02.170 ⇒ 00:33:04.180 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I’m here to show you how.
125 00:33:18.400 ⇒ 00:33:19.560 Hmm!
126 00:33:27.930 ⇒ 00:33:30.620 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Really awesome.
127 00:34:22.250 ⇒ 00:34:23.120 Hmm.
128 00:34:30.350 ⇒ 00:34:31.090 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: the
129 00:34:35.340 ⇒ 00:34:40.090 Uttam Kumaran: let let’s make an AI pun in this last this last thing.
130 00:34:44.030 ⇒ 00:34:44.800 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Wow.
131 00:34:53.929 ⇒ 00:34:56.680 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: okay. I mean, what if I just go with?
132 00:34:57.020 ⇒ 00:35:02.020 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: What do they just go like Uton. What’s our prompt for today? Yeah, that’s a good one.
133 00:35:11.360 ⇒ 00:35:12.140 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Thank you.
134 00:35:12.950 ⇒ 00:35:13.710 please.
135 00:35:17.060 ⇒ 00:35:19.820 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I kind of like this, too, because
136 00:35:21.100 ⇒ 00:35:22.839 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: it like positions.
137 00:35:24.460 ⇒ 00:35:26.399 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: You as like
138 00:35:27.570 ⇒ 00:35:29.019 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: the like, the
139 00:35:29.290 ⇒ 00:35:31.560 the actual technical expert
140 00:35:31.920 ⇒ 00:35:37.110 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: of the 2, which is true, right? And that’ll be like, accurate to what the conversations are like.
141 00:35:37.170 ⇒ 00:35:50.819 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. But then again, like, that’s also, I think, where I think you represent a lot, probably a lot of the audience, but are also like using it, like, you know. And I think that’s
142 00:35:51.040 ⇒ 00:35:54.310 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, that’s exactly it. And again, I think this is short enough.
143 00:35:55.610 ⇒ 00:35:57.969 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Well, we’ll know, I think.
144 00:35:58.060 ⇒ 00:36:06.910 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: what’s the ideal time? Right? It’s like 30 s. Yeah, well, II listen to a couple and they’re like, yeah, 1525 s.
145 00:36:08.680 ⇒ 00:36:10.300 Uttam Kumaran: I think this is perfect.
146 00:36:11.010 ⇒ 00:36:15.849 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I think. Yeah, well, I think this is end gonna end up being on the north side of 30.
147 00:36:16.100 ⇒ 00:36:26.549 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Be surprised how how quick a script it’s like it’s like crazy. But I don’t think this is, this is bad. So maybe let’s just let’s try reading through it. And
148 00:36:29.190 ⇒ 00:36:29.940 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: you can.
149 00:36:34.520 ⇒ 00:36:36.080 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so
150 00:36:36.320 ⇒ 00:36:40.089 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, II was just like, yeah, go ahead.
151 00:36:40.220 ⇒ 00:36:44.179 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Can you put up just because I’m using my phone, can you pull up
152 00:36:44.670 ⇒ 00:36:47.240 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: a stopwatch on your phone?
153 00:36:47.760 ⇒ 00:36:48.880 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
154 00:36:57.050 ⇒ 00:36:57.870 Uttam Kumaran: okay.
155 00:37:01.400 ⇒ 00:37:02.410 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: alright
156 00:37:04.850 ⇒ 00:37:09.099 Uttam Kumaran: welcome to A, I made this podcast. I’m Mutam engineer and AI builder.
157 00:37:09.540 ⇒ 00:37:20.219 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: And I’m Cletus, a marketer, AI transformed how we work. But it’s starting to change the way we live our lives every day, each week we’ll be diving into the latest AI, and how people are using it to make their lives easier.
158 00:37:20.580 ⇒ 00:37:28.779 Uttam Kumaran: AI isn’t just for the big tech companies or for writing papers. It could do a whole lot more. We’re here to show you how it works. Why it matters, and where it could be heading.
159 00:37:30.130 ⇒ 00:37:38.600 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: So get ready for some life, hacks deep, dives into the AI tools that change our everyday life, and maybe even some dirty jokes along the way. Uttan what’s up front for the day?
160 00:37:39.820 ⇒ 00:37:42.039 Uttam Kumaran: That’s pretty good. 35 s.
161 00:37:42.060 ⇒ 00:37:43.120 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Okay?
162 00:37:43.720 ⇒ 00:37:46.720 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I liked it, I think.
163 00:37:47.830 ⇒ 00:37:50.339 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I thought that was really good.
164 00:37:51.050 ⇒ 00:37:54.790 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t. I really don’t hate it. I think we did some cool
165 00:37:55.070 ⇒ 00:37:56.900 are we?
166 00:37:57.140 ⇒ 00:37:57.890 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: The?
167 00:38:02.250 ⇒ 00:38:16.169 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s see, you are right about the timing, and I think I need to go slower, because I know I talk really fast. Zoom. Zoom told me I talk really fast in all my recordings. So
168 00:38:17.160 ⇒ 00:38:21.140 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I think it’s gonna end up being longer for sure. Well.
169 00:38:22.250 ⇒ 00:38:37.930 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: we could be a little bit faster in the intro, because people want it quick. But, like II actually think your cadence like when we were talking, and we were just like having a conversation like not like at the super beginning. But when we got in the conversation you were actually great. You were like perfect with Kayden’s.
170 00:38:38.600 ⇒ 00:38:45.470 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: So like I think once we like settle in to the conversation. I wouldn’t. Don’t. Don’t put keep that in your mind, just
171 00:38:45.740 ⇒ 00:38:46.670 Uttam Kumaran: okay.
172 00:38:47.960 ⇒ 00:38:57.420 Uttam Kumaran: welcome to AI made this podcast let Me tell engineer and AI builder. hey, mark.
173 00:38:57.430 ⇒ 00:38:58.820 Uttam Kumaran: transformed.
174 00:38:59.870 ⇒ 00:39:01.030 Uttam Kumaran: how we work.
175 00:39:03.610 ⇒ 00:39:12.020 Uttam Kumaran: change, how we live. Our lives, every day, each week.
176 00:39:12.560 ⇒ 00:39:14.789 Uttam Kumaran: So that last sentence.
177 00:39:16.870 ⇒ 00:39:20.399 Uttam Kumaran: we should do something with so each week each episode.
178 00:39:21.660 ⇒ 00:39:28.460 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah, let’s not promise each week.
179 00:39:29.380 ⇒ 00:39:33.540 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: so we’ll be dive. We’ll be.
180 00:39:34.670 ⇒ 00:39:41.720 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe we should just say we’ll be reviewing AI tools. We’ll be more playing around with AI tools interviewing
181 00:39:42.730 ⇒ 00:39:49.239 Uttam Kumaran: interviewing folks. Yeah. Well, that’s a trailer version of this.
182 00:39:50.530 ⇒ 00:39:52.250 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yes, thank you.
183 00:39:57.840 ⇒ 00:39:59.250 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Each
184 00:40:00.590 ⇒ 00:40:04.230 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: maybe. Yeah. Instead of seeing each episode, let’s say, like
185 00:40:04.890 ⇒ 00:40:06.789 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: we’ll be diving into the latest.
186 00:40:08.370 ⇒ 00:40:14.209 Uttam Kumaran: Just say we’ll be diving into the latest we’ll be. We’ll be diving to the latest
187 00:40:16.990 ⇒ 00:40:21.150 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: latest in AI, and how people are using it to make. and I’d
188 00:40:21.330 ⇒ 00:40:30.590 Uttam Kumaran: oh, I think the sentiments right. But the sentence isn’t right. I think II don’t. Do you want to say like, we’ll be reviewing it. I will be reviewing AI tools.
189 00:40:30.920 ⇒ 00:40:33.519 Uttam Kumaran: And maybe you want to even give some examples.
190 00:40:33.960 ⇒ 00:40:36.800 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: That’s this is where I think it could be good to be like
191 00:40:36.870 ⇒ 00:40:38.050 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: a
192 00:40:38.320 ⇒ 00:40:42.779 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: do. Some examples that people like maybe didn’t know AI could do
193 00:40:43.970 ⇒ 00:40:46.909 Uttam Kumaran: where you, you may say, like things like.
194 00:40:52.610 ⇒ 00:40:57.570 Uttam Kumaran: we’ll be reviewing AI tools.
195 00:41:08.600 ⇒ 00:41:15.399 Uttam Kumaran: It’s almost like, yeah, we’ll be reviewing AI tools and creative fashion design.
196 00:41:16.710 ⇒ 00:41:21.760 Uttam Kumaran: If you’re listening to this, there’s a chance there’s a there’s a good chance that AI
197 00:41:21.870 ⇒ 00:41:23.480 Uttam Kumaran: could make your life easier.
198 00:41:29.240 ⇒ 00:41:31.210 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Have to get through it right
199 00:41:36.060 ⇒ 00:41:38.529 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: research into every.
200 00:41:56.830 ⇒ 00:41:58.610 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Maybe the last part.
201 00:42:00.370 ⇒ 00:42:13.820 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: may we scratch that ditch? By the last part we say, and this week we’re going to be talking about how we can use AI to become like. yeah, yeah, that’s this is where maybe you could put something like.
202 00:42:13.960 ⇒ 00:42:16.040 Uttam Kumaran: we’re using AI to
203 00:42:16.210 ⇒ 00:42:34.629 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: get me to stop wearing hoodies everywhere. This is, yeah. This is where I’m I’m ha. I’m having AI help me throw out my yeah, like, stop eating hamburger helper everything
204 00:42:34.810 ⇒ 00:42:36.470 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: this week. We’re gonna
205 00:42:36.550 ⇒ 00:42:40.550 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: we’re trying to get AI to help us.
206 00:42:42.010 ⇒ 00:42:44.740 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, shay the dad bought.
207 00:42:45.310 ⇒ 00:42:46.450 Yes.
208 00:42:46.750 ⇒ 00:42:51.590 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: what’s gonna be our first step? Let’s just do it from that we can do fashion. Are we doing fitness?
209 00:42:51.900 ⇒ 00:42:58.610 Uttam Kumaran: I think we should do whatever. Yeah, I think I think the broadest audience could be
210 00:43:00.870 ⇒ 00:43:02.910 Uttam Kumaran: fashion or fitness. Right?
211 00:43:03.220 ⇒ 00:43:03.990 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah.
212 00:43:07.310 ⇒ 00:43:17.280 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: yeah. Well, you, you know, we’ve talked about fashion. It’s an exciting point. I think we have things. Let’s just do this fashion. Going to
213 00:43:17.490 ⇒ 00:43:19.760 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: tuck about
214 00:43:19.820 ⇒ 00:43:22.019 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: a I fashion
215 00:43:22.600 ⇒ 00:43:24.020 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Utah.
216 00:43:25.150 ⇒ 00:43:26.000 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: It is.
217 00:43:26.350 ⇒ 00:43:30.439 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Do you own anything besides, already?
218 00:43:31.110 ⇒ 00:43:38.259 Uttam Kumaran: Or it’s like, or it’s like, it’s about time. II like, yeah, tossed away all of my graphic teas.
219 00:43:38.500 ⇒ 00:43:40.870 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Oh, yeah. if
220 00:43:41.180 ⇒ 00:43:46.139 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: yeah, I know, there’s no deal we should do something there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
221 00:43:46.310 ⇒ 00:43:50.690 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: You could say you could say that. I could say something like, Yeah, it’s about time I
222 00:43:50.860 ⇒ 00:43:58.170 Uttam Kumaran: throw away my high school. PE
223 00:43:59.140 ⇒ 00:44:01.280 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: udem. I’m I’m
224 00:44:01.340 ⇒ 00:44:07.850 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: 39 and dress like I’m 17.
225 00:44:07.910 ⇒ 00:44:10.529 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Then you could just be like, yeah.
226 00:44:10.580 ⇒ 00:44:19.480 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I haven’t put on a gut certain 3 years we need to get together.
227 00:44:19.490 ⇒ 00:44:22.800 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I think I’ve
228 00:44:24.780 ⇒ 00:44:28.519 Uttam Kumaran: I could say, Yeah, I haven’t put on a caller, sure.
229 00:44:28.570 ⇒ 00:44:29.810 since Prom
230 00:44:30.130 ⇒ 00:44:33.279 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: they got AI
231 00:44:35.610 ⇒ 00:44:37.030 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: in fashion.
232 00:44:45.350 ⇒ 00:44:48.539 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: AI for fashion. I think that’s important distinction.
233 00:44:54.430 ⇒ 00:44:57.750 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: and then I’ll just go like, and then I’ll just go.
234 00:45:02.530 ⇒ 00:45:07.780 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: How do we get the robots to
235 00:45:09.330 ⇒ 00:45:13.820 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: help us, you know, to make as
236 00:45:14.060 ⇒ 00:45:17.619 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: look better? And then we could just kinda like.
237 00:45:18.350 ⇒ 00:45:31.090 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: is the ro like, are we being too light? There are calling you like the robots? I don’t want to turn off the tech audience, but I want to be approachable to just like
238 00:45:31.270 ⇒ 00:45:33.089 regular people, too.
239 00:45:33.650 ⇒ 00:45:36.719 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, how do we get the robots to make us look better?
240 00:45:38.280 ⇒ 00:45:42.830 Uttam Kumaran: And let’s take a or like, let’s take a look at a couple of tools. Or
241 00:45:43.120 ⇒ 00:45:48.260 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: let’s let’s get into it, or something like that. A.
242 00:45:51.700 ⇒ 00:45:53.060 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yes.
243 00:46:12.510 ⇒ 00:46:13.950 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, cool.
244 00:46:21.290 ⇒ 00:46:23.149 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I almost think, like,
245 00:46:23.970 ⇒ 00:46:33.559 Uttam Kumaran: the music part is just on the beginning. And it trans it fades out. So that way, we don’t have like a weird like transition point. So this is it just goes.
246 00:46:33.750 ⇒ 00:46:36.800 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: It just goes. Okay, I’m down. Yeah.
247 00:46:36.810 ⇒ 00:46:39.220 Uttam Kumaran: I think, then, honestly, like.
248 00:46:39.230 ⇒ 00:46:47.470 Uttam Kumaran: this is the intro. This is like the default intro, this is like the transition audio
249 00:46:48.130 ⇒ 00:46:49.070 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: 100%.
250 00:46:49.340 ⇒ 00:46:53.710 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s like, I’m just gonna kind of mark it with like.
251 00:46:55.120 ⇒ 00:47:08.239 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I’m really glad we did this first cause. I think this literally is so tone setting for us and how we’re gonna like, lay it out and plan it. Cause it’s like, now, we’re just like, totally focused on just AI for everyday life.
252 00:47:08.280 ⇒ 00:47:09.470 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
253 00:47:10.510 ⇒ 00:47:17.720 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: which is cool, are we? Are we too far in that direction, like, what should we got? Check ourselves before we get too far down this like. Is that what the North Star is? Here?
254 00:47:19.380 ⇒ 00:47:21.180 Uttam Kumaran: We look back at the figma.
255 00:47:25.240 ⇒ 00:47:26.229 Uttam Kumaran: I mean.
256 00:47:31.820 ⇒ 00:47:44.200 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Frankly, I love the I love the direction. but if it’s you know, you’ve already kind of like. And I I’ve talked to a bunch of people, too. We’ve already kind of done the seed work of explaining kind of what this is.
257 00:47:44.820 ⇒ 00:47:48.760 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Is it too different than the original plan? I don’t think so.
258 00:47:49.260 ⇒ 00:47:52.580 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I don’t think I mean looking back at what we wrote.
259 00:47:52.840 ⇒ 00:47:56.440 Uttam Kumaran: we did. We did, I think, start with a lot more
260 00:47:57.070 ⇒ 00:48:06.720 Uttam Kumaran: professional, I would say. Probably that’s because that’s frankly like it’s just what I do. It’s like what I’m spending most of my time talking about.
261 00:48:07.450 ⇒ 00:48:10.050 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s probably my bias. But
262 00:48:10.100 ⇒ 00:48:16.820 Uttam Kumaran: I think the goal with this intro is to hook we’ll talk about
263 00:48:16.890 ⇒ 00:48:38.349 Uttam Kumaran: can ebb and flow towards the topic. Of course, it’s like fashion. Neither of us work in there. It’s gonna be up top. We’re gonna review some stuff that is associated with the genre. Talk about where it’s going and then close it out. I think if it’s something oh, whether it’s marketing or if it’s like software development. It may be a little bit more
264 00:48:38.730 ⇒ 00:48:42.549 Uttam Kumaran: like it may hit home, like, you know.
265 00:48:43.410 ⇒ 00:48:48.550 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Okay, great, III listen to a lot of.
266 00:48:48.870 ⇒ 00:48:56.200 Uttam Kumaran: I do listen to a lot of like data and professional podcasts about like data, engineering and stuff. And it’s so boring.
267 00:48:56.500 ⇒ 00:49:09.430 Uttam Kumaran: I just like, I listen because, like I, it helps me sometimes like, understand companies and stuff. But it’s corporate people. It’s so boring. And
268 00:49:09.870 ⇒ 00:49:16.690 Uttam Kumaran: I think that this is just a wide this, we can still nail that as part of this.
269 00:49:17.010 ⇒ 00:49:19.850 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah. Yeah.
270 00:49:20.750 ⇒ 00:49:24.689 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Episodes dedicated to it. But not
271 00:49:26.120 ⇒ 00:49:27.989 okay. Cool. I love it. Dude.
272 00:49:28.150 ⇒ 00:49:35.840 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. I’m gonna I’m gonna try to walk through it a little bit and just record it, and maybe I’ll maybe I’ll
273 00:49:36.060 ⇒ 00:49:44.219 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll send you a couple of voice messages. You can listen to it. Tell me anything. Well, let’s let’s just run through the timing again. Hold on 1 s
274 00:49:46.070 ⇒ 00:49:49.349 Uttam Kumaran: 1 s.
275 00:49:52.630 ⇒ 00:49:53.340 but
276 00:49:53.740 ⇒ 00:50:04.810 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I realize that would be completely put out by this.
277 00:50:07.960 ⇒ 00:50:09.990 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: And okay.
278 00:50:13.260 ⇒ 00:50:14.569 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: here we go.
279 00:50:15.400 ⇒ 00:50:16.500 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.
280 00:50:16.850 ⇒ 00:50:18.570 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Let me know.
281 00:50:21.190 ⇒ 00:50:22.239 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Ready when you are
282 00:50:24.340 ⇒ 00:50:28.569 Uttam Kumaran: welcome to AI made this, podcast i’m mutam engineer and AI builder.
283 00:50:28.960 ⇒ 00:50:41.269 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: and I’m Cletis. I’m a marketer, and AI is transformed. How we work! But it’s just starting to change the way we live. Our we live our everyday lives, we’ll be diving into the latest in AI. How people are using it to make their lives easier every day.
284 00:50:41.710 ⇒ 00:50:49.620 Uttam Kumaran: A. I isn’t just for big tech companies or for writing papers, could do a whole lot more. We’re here to show you how it works, why, it matters, and where it could be heading
285 00:50:50.520 ⇒ 00:50:57.110 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: this week. We’re gonna be talking about AI for fashion utam. I’m 39, and I dress like I’m 17.
286 00:50:57.230 ⇒ 00:51:05.540 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah, I don’t think I put on a collar shirt since? Prompt. Okay, so how do we get the robots to help us dress better like, what tools are we gonna talk about today.
287 00:51:06.610 ⇒ 00:51:09.050 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s about 40 s. We
288 00:51:09.130 ⇒ 00:51:16.529 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: pass the green market around 2625. Okay? So that’s that’s you know what? That’s totally cool. And I think I’m gonna tighten up that
289 00:51:17.040 ⇒ 00:51:18.429 Uttam Kumaran: that like.
290 00:51:18.700 ⇒ 00:51:23.049 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: yeah, that one. I think that we could make that feel a little bit more natural.
291 00:51:23.870 ⇒ 00:51:26.820 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. This is dove. I’m pumped.
292 00:51:27.760 ⇒ 00:51:35.490 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Let’s go. So okay. so tools for
293 00:51:37.270 ⇒ 00:51:40.159 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: this first episode.
294 00:51:41.390 ⇒ 00:51:46.869 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: do we? Wanna do we each want to do 2 and lead the conversations on the 2.
295 00:51:48.200 ⇒ 00:51:51.089 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I think,
296 00:51:51.530 ⇒ 00:51:59.300 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: maybe we’ll end up editing out one, you know, like, it doesn’t matter. Yeah. I think like the the 2 that are come to mind for me are
297 00:51:59.550 ⇒ 00:52:01.989 Uttam Kumaran: some of the
298 00:52:02.180 ⇒ 00:52:14.360 Uttam Kumaran: There’s one where, like people can design new shoes and stuff like that from AI Instagram that I was talking about. So that’s one and then the other one
299 00:52:14.440 ⇒ 00:52:16.149 Uttam Kumaran: I can share is.
300 00:52:16.350 ⇒ 00:52:26.050 Uttam Kumaran: I have a I actually was helping somebody, and was about to help another company that’s called shop with AI where
301 00:52:26.140 ⇒ 00:52:27.650 you pretty much
302 00:52:28.010 ⇒ 00:52:30.830 Uttam Kumaran: let me see if they, if they even
303 00:52:33.010 ⇒ 00:52:34.210 have it up.
304 00:52:36.970 ⇒ 00:52:40.730 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Is it like a look like an AI look book. Upload a photo of yourself.
305 00:52:41.220 ⇒ 00:52:44.290 Uttam Kumaran: Kind of, but it’s
306 00:52:46.770 ⇒ 00:52:57.679 Uttam Kumaran: It’s it’s like it’s almost like you’re chatting with it. and it like tells you stuff I don’t know. Maybe that’s their shit’s broken now.
307 00:53:05.310 ⇒ 00:53:08.070 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe. Okay, maybe they’re dead. I don’t know
308 00:53:11.360 ⇒ 00:53:12.930 Uttam Kumaran: a
309 00:53:16.070 ⇒ 00:53:20.620 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: alright. But there was. There was another one where you could put in like I wanna look like Jfk.
310 00:53:20.860 ⇒ 00:53:25.210 Uttam Kumaran: and it’ll give you like a bunch of shit that like
311 00:53:25.770 ⇒ 00:53:29.210 Uttam Kumaran: Jfk. Would wear like or like, I wanna look like.
312 00:53:29.890 ⇒ 00:53:42.449 Uttam Kumaran: And it’d be like, Here’s some shit where you do it like, here’s doctor like, yeah, I don’t know
313 00:53:42.670 ⇒ 00:53:46.549 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: like one of the or something like, here’s like a
314 00:53:46.600 ⇒ 00:53:50.019 Uttam Kumaran: yeah alright act. Here’s like an actor from here’s like James Bond.
315 00:53:50.100 ⇒ 00:53:51.820 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah.
316 00:53:52.600 ⇒ 00:54:04.259 Uttam Kumaran: So I’ll have to. I’ll find one that does it if that doesn’t work. But I think those are the 2 that I can talk about, just because I yeah, I think that’d be really good. What the first one I’ll just talk about.
317 00:54:04.550 ⇒ 00:54:05.810 Uttam Kumaran: you know, there’s
318 00:54:05.890 ⇒ 00:54:10.010 Uttam Kumaran: it’s the the thing I wanted to mainly talk about was
319 00:54:10.130 ⇒ 00:54:23.400 Uttam Kumaran: a lot of people have trouble thinking about new designs, and they don’t know how to get into clothing, design, and things like that. But with these tools you can pretty quickly prototype and see new things, and we can show couple of the
320 00:54:23.480 ⇒ 00:54:27.280 Uttam Kumaran: Ai generated Nike shoes and things like that.
321 00:54:27.420 ⇒ 00:54:31.840 Uttam Kumaran: And then on the shopping side. I could say, you know, sometimes you’re going for a look.
322 00:54:31.860 ⇒ 00:54:47.680 Uttam Kumaran: and like you don’t know really know how to describe it. But you kind of do have a character in mind or like a point in time. And you just wanna say, like, I kinda like stuff from the genre, I wanna I wanna dress like I was in London on a rainy day.
323 00:54:47.960 ⇒ 00:54:52.959 Uttam Kumaran: and you want to be able to just say that and kind of see stuff that resounds with that.
324 00:54:53.380 ⇒ 00:55:11.799 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s because you go on Amazon, you just if you go on Amazon, you just you have to type in like literally the thing you want, which may be like P. Code, and then you have to go see, like 90,000 of them. Instead, you you shop with more of just like a vibe or feeling, and then it gives you the products.
325 00:55:12.050 ⇒ 00:55:18.620 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Right? That’s that’s perfect. We should lead with that one and do the designer one.
326 00:55:18.740 ⇒ 00:55:25.340 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: not first, because I think that might turn like some people off who are originally thinking like, Oh, okay, how do I? Just
327 00:55:25.400 ⇒ 00:55:30.370 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: but yeah, I think it’ll also be important to some people. So we should maybe like at the intro like.
328 00:55:30.680 ⇒ 00:55:44.980 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: or maybe in the notes somewhere, I don’t know, somehow be able to give a guide for people to be able to listen to whatever interest them. Here’s what I was thinking for one. I don’t know. This tool exists, but I’m sure it does. If not, I’ll talk about the dearth of it.
329 00:55:47.460 ⇒ 00:55:55.649 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Finding out what colors you should wear, based off of your skin tone and your like hair color and that kind of stuff.
330 00:55:55.710 ⇒ 00:56:01.290 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: because I think that’s like something especially guys don’t understand.
331 00:56:01.440 ⇒ 00:56:08.730 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: And girls would relate to a lot. So we don’t want to have like a just male audience. Yeah, that’s great, too.
332 00:56:08.830 ⇒ 00:56:16.589 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: And like, there’s gotta be like a tool out there. And this isn’t like a super in depth conversation. But we could just talk about like the color tones and like how that affects
333 00:56:16.650 ⇒ 00:56:25.459 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: like people’s perception. We like joke about like, yeah. Well, we live when you live in New York. We only were black, right, and that’s such a joke. But like it’s true. And
334 00:56:25.980 ⇒ 00:56:28.909 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: a. So the color thing.
335 00:56:28.930 ⇒ 00:56:33.469 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: It’s simple enough, but like important. And then maybe I don’t know
336 00:56:34.890 ⇒ 00:56:36.260 Uttam Kumaran: there’s got to be.
337 00:56:36.800 ⇒ 00:56:38.660 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: There’s got to be a tool like
338 00:56:38.990 ⇒ 00:56:49.339 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: like. Let’s I’m just thinking the other thing is like finances of it right? There’s gotta be a tool that
339 00:56:49.470 ⇒ 00:56:53.779 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: says like, here’s how much money I want to be spending.
340 00:56:54.320 ⇒ 00:57:05.379 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: And here’s where you should be shopping and things you should be looking for. But it does not. You don’t need to really pick a store right? Cause a lot of the problem with the Internet now is, you have to go to a store
341 00:57:05.410 ⇒ 00:57:13.390 Uttam Kumaran: and be like, does this store have everything I need instead, it’s like. here’s what I need. Get it from any store that has it. you know.
342 00:57:13.870 ⇒ 00:57:18.680 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah, okay, so there’s got to be an AI tool that scrapes to find.
343 00:57:18.990 ⇒ 00:57:40.030 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s what like Google shopping. And I think the tool that I was talking about, where I don’t know if they’re still in business. They were gonna scrape all the inventory. And then you can just say, I want this like, I want like a purple shirt. And then it goes and finds like all these varieties, or it’s like, I want this outfit. This outfit is usually composed of these things. Let’s go find it in the marketplace.
344 00:57:40.590 ⇒ 00:57:53.239 Uttam Kumaran: because otherwise you go to. You. Go to like Jcrcom like I don’t. I don’t want anything that’s like, well, I gotta go check like another site, another site, another site. You. The thing about Amazon. It’s nice is because it gets all these ones. The problem is, you have to search like pinpoint search a product.
345 00:57:53.400 ⇒ 00:57:54.160 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Right?
346 00:57:54.270 ⇒ 00:58:00.880 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Okay? So that’s the that’s the conversation. We just that.
347 00:58:01.060 ⇒ 00:58:06.080 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah, okay, cool. So I’ll I’ll do. I’ll do like colors.
348 00:58:06.230 ⇒ 00:58:18.890 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: And then, like product aggregation. And but I wanna tie it like to a financial thing. And you can talk about how you’ve seen that in some companies. And you know the problem with Amazon. And
349 00:58:19.200 ⇒ 00:58:30.110 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I think that’s perfect. And the the thing with the I’ll even I wanna just show you that Instagram thing I was telling you about. I think it’s just visually, it’s like.
350 00:58:30.300 ⇒ 00:58:32.100 Uttam Kumaran: really, really compelling.
351 00:58:32.670 ⇒ 00:58:43.050 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. Audio audio, how well, that’s gonna translate. But when you see what we’re doing video, too? Right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
352 00:58:43.680 ⇒ 00:58:48.300 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s it’s going to be helpful to pull something up. And
353 00:58:48.990 ⇒ 00:58:52.460 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll I’ll show you what it looks like.
354 00:59:18.460 ⇒ 00:59:19.370 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.
355 00:59:22.580 ⇒ 00:59:25.820 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let me find example. Here we go.
356 00:59:33.560 ⇒ 00:59:41.800 Uttam Kumaran: are you? Oh, you’re on your phone. You’re on your phone. Okay? Did you chat it to me. I’m just gonna I’ll just yeah. I’ll just text it to you just so you can pull it up.
357 01:00:13.590 ⇒ 01:00:16.459 Uttam Kumaran: I wanna find the Nike one that I
358 01:00:18.470 ⇒ 01:00:19.750 Uttam Kumaran: sorry earlier.
359 01:00:23.880 ⇒ 01:00:25.510 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: That’s cool.
360 01:00:30.830 ⇒ 01:00:33.139 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: So people are just designing this themselves.
361 01:00:33.220 ⇒ 01:00:35.569 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And then we’re like 3D printing him
362 01:00:35.780 ⇒ 01:00:37.420 Uttam Kumaran: exactly
363 01:00:37.740 ⇒ 01:00:41.899 Uttam Kumaran: like, look like, like, look, look at this one, this one you’ll kind of like.
364 01:00:57.560 ⇒ 01:00:58.909 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: oh, that’s funny.
365 01:01:00.160 ⇒ 01:01:03.319 Uttam Kumaran: And then this, this is a good one.
366 01:01:03.820 ⇒ 01:01:07.159 Uttam Kumaran: This one has a couple. This one has a bunch of like things to look at, but
367 01:01:08.480 ⇒ 01:01:11.069 Uttam Kumaran: but the first one is fucking crazy.
368 01:01:15.840 ⇒ 01:01:18.320 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Whoa!
369 01:01:18.840 ⇒ 01:01:20.520 Uttam Kumaran: Isn’t insane.
370 01:01:30.100 ⇒ 01:01:31.100 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Well.
371 01:01:32.420 ⇒ 01:01:35.660 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: that’s what I’m talking about is like, Oh, yo!
372 01:01:36.250 ⇒ 01:01:40.940 Uttam Kumaran: I saw this. I’m like, Oh, my God, watch they can! They gotta be making these
373 01:01:41.410 ⇒ 01:01:55.550 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: the I mean. And then the conversation is like, Wow, the next Condy is going to be like 12 years old. Yeah, just like on mid journey on mid journey, making the most impactful thing to hit
374 01:01:55.670 ⇒ 01:01:56.730 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: fashion.
375 01:02:06.610 ⇒ 01:02:16.859 Uttam Kumaran: It’s really cool. Yeah. So I think something about this account, but particularly like some of these images to be good to show like you could design fashion concept.
376 01:02:17.880 ⇒ 01:02:23.829 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: we’ll pop those on screen totally. Okay. Who knows? I’m calling it?
377 01:02:25.440 ⇒ 01:02:27.360 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: And
378 01:02:29.350 ⇒ 01:02:35.680 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: yeah. And then
379 01:03:00.840 ⇒ 01:03:02.670 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: your topics are
380 01:03:05.830 ⇒ 01:03:11.140 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: AI sign.
381 01:03:13.640 ⇒ 01:03:17.570 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: and the other one was
382 01:03:20.570 ⇒ 01:03:22.929 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: what was the first button? Was the other one you were gonna do
383 01:03:23.630 ⇒ 01:03:30.320 Uttam Kumaran: the shoes, the shopping, the financial
384 01:03:34.000 ⇒ 01:03:37.249 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: This is the first one.
385 01:03:39.770 ⇒ 01:03:41.320 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.
386 01:03:49.060 ⇒ 01:03:52.010 Uttam Kumaran: oh.
387 01:03:57.430 ⇒ 01:04:06.619 Uttam Kumaran: I have to look back to the recording.
388 01:04:07.070 ⇒ 01:04:11.170 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I will tell us what it was.
389 01:04:12.390 ⇒ 01:04:20.320 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: That’s really funny. Let’s call that out in the episode, too. I’ll send you this recording, too, because it has the audio from before. So
390 01:04:20.440 ⇒ 01:04:22.930 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: oh, perfect. Yeah. Nice.
391 01:04:24.000 ⇒ 01:04:26.600 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Okay, cool.
392 01:04:26.680 ⇒ 01:04:27.960 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Good work. Dude
393 01:04:29.540 ⇒ 01:04:31.219 Uttam Kumaran: enjoy. Why don’t we?
394 01:04:31.270 ⇒ 01:04:36.970 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah, should we? So we just did this for one episode. should we do this for another episode?
395 01:04:37.530 ⇒ 01:04:40.849 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, what’s next week? Maybe we?
396 01:04:43.220 ⇒ 01:04:51.599 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, let’s so I’m gonna I’ll write. I’ll write some stuff down somewhere and figma, and then let’s move on to another topic.
397 01:04:52.330 ⇒ 01:04:55.080 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: And maybe we could try recording.
398 01:04:56.730 ⇒ 01:05:01.870 Uttam Kumaran: like we already try doing a sample run of the fashion one next week, and just seeing how it goes.
399 01:05:03.980 ⇒ 01:05:05.240 Uttam Kumaran: What do you think
400 01:05:05.660 ⇒ 01:05:07.479 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I’m afraid of doing
401 01:05:08.230 ⇒ 01:05:18.700 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: a topic we actually wanna have an episode about, because when we’re jamming on it like it’s gonna feel disingenuous, more just like jam on it, and then we’ll edit it.
402 01:05:19.080 ⇒ 01:05:24.029 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Okay, okay, cool. Okay, cool. Sorry that that makes sense alright cool.
403 01:05:24.080 ⇒ 01:05:41.030 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Well, it’s just, you know, people smell when something is like, too formal. And that’s like the opposite of this medium. No, it’s perfect, it’s perfect. I’ve just like again. This is all like new to me thinking about how to do these types of things. So yeah, that makes it. That makes it total.
404 01:05:41.470 ⇒ 01:05:51.070 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so let’s let’s let’s just kinda have rough notes on all these, and then let’s do. Let’s maybe next week try to knock out to like another like a 30 min session or hour session, where we can
405 01:05:51.270 ⇒ 01:05:57.990 Uttam Kumaran: talk about stuff. And that way we can talk about the ideas. talk about 6 ideas, then find the tools.
406 01:05:58.040 ⇒ 01:06:02.980 Uttam Kumaran: then whittle it down to a couple, and it’d be like, we’re gonna let’s riff on these next time.
407 01:06:03.420 ⇒ 01:06:04.230 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Great.
408 01:06:05.160 ⇒ 01:06:11.179 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: that’s perfect. Let’s just pick the topics and come in with the tools.
409 01:06:12.890 ⇒ 01:06:22.620 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I kind of think there, you know, personally for me. And you tell me if you think it’s just like 2 niche. I think the idea of like
410 01:06:22.750 ⇒ 01:06:24.980 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: this landscape, I think, is real
411 01:06:26.340 ⇒ 01:06:29.319 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: like, just like, kind of home design.
412 01:06:29.580 ⇒ 01:06:35.460 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. I think we should do that because you’re also doing. You’re also kind of in the middle of that.
413 01:06:36.130 ⇒ 01:06:45.500 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Well, yeah, and it could be relevant for everyone, cause we could just cover, like, yeah, your interior design. Exterior design homes, apartments like, whatever people live.
414 01:06:46.010 ⇒ 01:06:55.750 Uttam Kumaran: I, yeah. And again, I already have a couple of ideas, a couple of tools that I tried to use for taking a picture of like your room, and then being like, I want a couch over there.
415 01:06:55.980 ⇒ 01:06:57.869 Uttam Kumaran: What does it look like with like couch
416 01:06:57.880 ⇒ 01:07:13.359 Uttam Kumaran: like the dimension? And another thing, I have like a little bit of a patio, and I gave it like the likes of my patio, and chatting between. I was like, what are things I could do? Given this space. And I drew out like what it was. So there’s there’s like, definitely, definitely
417 01:07:14.130 ⇒ 01:07:17.310 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: okay, cool. So yep.
418 01:07:19.270 ⇒ 01:07:22.470 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: So home.
419 01:07:22.730 ⇒ 01:07:25.950 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: to sign
420 01:07:26.340 ⇒ 01:07:27.950 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: F. 3.
421 01:07:28.080 ⇒ 01:07:31.020 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: What’s something else? We wanted to cover?
422 01:07:33.050 ⇒ 01:07:34.560 Uttam Kumaran: We want food.
423 01:07:35.280 ⇒ 01:07:36.980 Uttam Kumaran: food for sure
424 01:07:37.590 ⇒ 01:07:41.490 Uttam Kumaran: teaching, or I also think, like covering
425 01:07:41.510 ⇒ 01:07:50.200 Uttam Kumaran: therapy, or like some of those like apps where there’s there’s a lot of apps that are coming where you just text and like how you’re feeling
426 01:07:50.230 ⇒ 01:07:52.960 Uttam Kumaran: people who are having panic attacks and stuff like that.
427 01:07:53.000 ⇒ 01:08:03.619 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: That’s a good one. Therapy, mental health. Yeah. Therapy mental health. So we have cooking therapy, mental health design. Keep going here?
428 01:08:04.390 ⇒ 01:08:09.249 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I don’t know you want to do one on marketing.
429 01:08:11.540 ⇒ 01:08:13.360 Uttam Kumaran: or that’s like kinda like
430 01:08:14.710 ⇒ 01:08:18.669 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I do. But I don’t want it to be marketing because
431 01:08:18.840 ⇒ 01:08:24.140 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: everyone does that. But like, what does everyone use practically every day? So maybe it’s just like.
432 01:08:24.750 ⇒ 01:08:31.689 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: like social media. yeah, or like
433 01:08:32.729 ⇒ 01:08:37.379 Uttam Kumaran: it should just be content generating content. Or
434 01:08:42.700 ⇒ 01:08:47.710 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I could just talk forever on content.
435 01:08:48.779 ⇒ 01:08:53.039 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: What about personal branding?
436 01:08:53.520 ⇒ 01:08:58.739 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that could be good, too, so that could be like we could do something about head shots.
437 01:08:58.859 ⇒ 01:09:03.930 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: headshots, logos, Instagram stuff.
438 01:09:04.229 ⇒ 01:09:05.670 Uttam Kumaran: and like.
439 01:09:06.080 ⇒ 01:09:15.139 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: you know, for all those vloggers like you record this long form video, and you click this button that edits it down for you caption to you and gives you the social media posts.
440 01:09:16.090 ⇒ 01:09:17.360 Uttam Kumaran: That’s a good one.
441 01:09:17.840 ⇒ 01:09:21.339 Uttam Kumaran: That’s super searchable, too. Yeah, I like that.
442 01:09:26.660 ⇒ 01:09:27.710 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Okay.
443 01:09:28.779 ⇒ 01:09:30.230 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: we’re riffing here.
444 01:09:30.950 ⇒ 01:09:35.079 Uttam Kumaran: Mushroom clothing, hiring real estate, design, image voice.
445 01:09:35.819 ⇒ 01:09:38.620 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: But we have. We have the full list. Alright. So what do
446 01:09:39.370 ⇒ 01:09:46.630 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: yeah, yeah. Video editing image, generation voice.
447 01:09:49.500 ⇒ 01:09:53.920 Uttam Kumaran: We could on, we could do something on voice and image
448 01:09:54.400 ⇒ 01:10:05.600 Uttam Kumaran: or like voice, like, I think we could do a whole episode on like generating your own voice or doing like a deep fake thing. I don’t wanna call it deep fake, but I think we should talk about like
449 01:10:05.830 ⇒ 01:10:14.300 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: no, we should do defect. We should do pretty easily now.
450 01:10:14.720 ⇒ 01:10:24.200 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: and that’s a fun episode where we in real time try and generate an image that can open up my wife’s ph10, that’d be really good.
451 01:10:24.470 ⇒ 01:10:34.120 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: And we recorded cause I told her about that. She left. She’s like, Yeah, I’m down. That’s fine. That’d be really, really good. Yeah, we should do that. That could be like the trial that could be like what we attempt that episode
452 01:10:34.290 ⇒ 01:10:41.069 Uttam Kumaran: or like. We. We spent some time beforehand trying to get it to work, and then we could talk through what it, what I have what happened? If it worked
453 01:10:46.010 ⇒ 01:10:51.769 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I don’t know. I think there’s something compelling about really, just
454 01:10:51.870 ⇒ 01:11:04.880 Uttam Kumaran: and really try. Why don’t we try it? Live? And then we’ll we can edit it. If it’s there’s like pieces that are like. yeah, okay, let’s see, maybe we should try. Maybe we should try and get like a prompt engineer to join us for that one.
455 01:11:05.910 ⇒ 01:11:07.950 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, we could be like, yeah.
456 01:11:10.240 ⇒ 01:11:11.680 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, there’d be good.
457 01:11:12.530 ⇒ 01:11:18.239 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Someone who like really knows how to get it. Yeah.
458 01:11:20.680 ⇒ 01:11:23.640 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Cause that’s the kind of shit would that would go viral, too.
459 01:11:24.000 ⇒ 01:11:27.759 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: You’d be like, yeah, these people made a made up image to open up someone’s phone.
460 01:11:30.000 ⇒ 01:11:31.500 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay.
461 01:11:41.760 ⇒ 01:11:43.079 wait. Hold on.
462 01:11:43.180 ⇒ 01:11:47.439 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Does it work? If you hold up a photo like an actual photo?
463 01:11:49.160 ⇒ 01:11:50.620 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I don’t know.
464 01:11:52.110 ⇒ 01:11:54.700 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I never tried it. I never tried it, which is.
465 01:11:54.950 ⇒ 01:12:06.199 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: you should try that first, because if the if if the there’s some sort of other thing, there’s got to be a depth element to it. Sensor.
466 01:12:07.790 ⇒ 01:12:10.239 Uttam Kumaran: You could try right now with your phone
467 01:12:12.870 ⇒ 01:12:22.799 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: and you know, and
468 01:12:23.270 ⇒ 01:12:24.230 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: on the moon.
469 01:12:27.370 ⇒ 01:12:32.939 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: No, you can’t unlock your phone with the photo because they said, they use this technology to map it. They
470 01:12:34.550 ⇒ 01:12:36.810 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: alright. So that’s flawed from the start.
471 01:12:39.700 ⇒ 01:12:43.010 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: so just back to deepfakes.
472 01:12:43.040 ⇒ 01:12:57.059 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think we should just try to do a defect, or we, it could be cool to like, have the deep fake call someone, you know, or like have a defect. Leave a voice message for someone, you know, and then see if they respond
473 01:12:58.020 ⇒ 01:13:00.999 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: like I could leave a voice message like
474 01:13:01.040 ⇒ 01:13:10.399 Uttam Kumaran: for my dad being like, Hey, hey? Like something’s happening. You might call me back or like, Hey, do you mind sending me this thing? Thanks. Love. Ya, like.
475 01:13:10.670 ⇒ 01:13:18.299 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: yeah, okay, that’s funny. and maybe we still have. This is like the perfect opportunity to have a prompt engineer in.
476 01:13:18.510 ⇒ 01:13:26.109 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: It’d be like we’re gonna replicate Dom’s voice, and send a voicemail to his dad. Yeah, and see if it like works.
477 01:13:26.460 ⇒ 01:13:27.640 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: See if it works.
478 01:13:29.520 ⇒ 01:13:36.780 Uttam Kumaran: Something like that. Yeah. Could be fun. Cause that way. It’s so it’s still like II like that cause that’s like some social engineering like
479 01:13:37.900 ⇒ 01:13:38.720 Uttam Kumaran: fine.
480 01:13:39.940 ⇒ 01:13:43.369 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: And then and then, like the end of the episode
481 01:13:43.590 ⇒ 01:13:51.639 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: when he calls back. you just let it go to the voicemail when we play the recording. If it’s like appropriate to do
482 01:13:54.150 ⇒ 01:13:55.380 Uttam Kumaran: exactly.
483 01:13:57.430 ⇒ 01:13:59.010 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah, that’s funny.
484 01:13:59.360 ⇒ 01:14:03.600 Uttam Kumaran: I like, though, cause that one involves like the real world. And they’re actually trying something.
485 01:14:04.060 ⇒ 01:14:04.920
486 01:14:05.080 ⇒ 01:14:05.800 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.
487 01:14:07.160 ⇒ 01:14:08.220 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: that’s cool.
488 01:14:12.560 ⇒ 01:14:16.510 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: And and voice has been the thing that’s been the worst up to this point
489 01:14:17.510 ⇒ 01:14:19.379 Uttam Kumaran: the worst in terms of what
490 01:14:19.390 ⇒ 01:14:34.010 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: technology wise like AI AI. Voices have stunks very much at this point. So maybe, like the the bulls, they at the end, like, yeah, they still stink. And someone needs to figure out how to crack this egg. Yeah, like, what’s the conclusion? Yeah.
491 01:14:37.690 ⇒ 01:14:38.780 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.
492 01:14:39.040 ⇒ 01:14:44.380 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: that’s good. I mean, that’s 6 episodes right there, plus all the ones we have, the ones we had, or more like
493 01:14:45.010 ⇒ 01:14:52.130 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: skill focus rather than practical use case that rather than real world use case. So we can transition them a little bit. But
494 01:14:59.450 ⇒ 01:15:01.190 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I like it. It’s fun. Yeah.
495 01:15:03.910 ⇒ 01:15:09.420 Uttam Kumaran: And again, I think if we do. If we do like an hour session, I’m just trying all these tools out. It’s gonna work, really. Well.
496 01:15:10.080 ⇒ 01:15:11.150 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: 100%.
497 01:15:14.960 ⇒ 01:15:19.090 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I actually know someone who do, I’m sure. Do you know prompt engineers?
498 01:15:19.120 ⇒ 01:15:26.890 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah, I know some people that do it. And then I’ve yeah. I’ve been messing around a lot like that. But again, some of these tools, they’re just online. You don’t even need to do anything.
499 01:15:26.990 ⇒ 01:15:31.939 Uttam Kumaran: You just upload like 10 min of you talking. And then it kinda like figures it out.
500 01:15:33.650 ⇒ 01:15:38.750 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Okay. So I’ll just talk about some of those tools we’ll upload be like, yeah, here’s the
501 01:15:38.760 ⇒ 01:15:42.579 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: we’re trying to have it. Say, like ridiculous stuff.
502 01:15:42.700 ⇒ 01:15:54.899 Uttam Kumaran: But then there’s also some videos we can show up like, here’s some things that actually like, there’s people mimicking like politicians, voices, or people that have died. And it’s like, it sounds like perfect. So
503 01:15:54.940 ⇒ 01:15:57.910 Uttam Kumaran: some of it, I think, is real, like, it actually exists.
504 01:15:58.370 ⇒ 01:16:06.730 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Yeah, okay. yeah. And then we just talked about the music stuff like, you know, people are doing AI versions of other people’s songs.
505 01:16:07.150 ⇒ 01:16:08.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
506 01:16:10.850 ⇒ 01:16:22.139 Uttam Kumaran: exactly. Yeah, we could. There’s a there’s a one like Drake song. That’s re, actually, really, really good. Yeah, the drake, yeah, the drake we have to talk about the Drake song is so good.
507 01:16:22.330 ⇒ 01:16:27.549 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: Cause this the. It’s really the reason that it’s in front of the Supreme Court now, like that song
508 01:16:29.010 ⇒ 01:16:32.109 Uttam Kumaran: made it to the Supreme Court. Yes, yes.
509 01:16:32.930 ⇒ 01:16:34.449 Uttam Kumaran: which is insane.
510 01:16:37.410 ⇒ 01:16:50.150 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: cool. Alright. That’s our 6 to start. That’s a lot that’s a lot to chew. Let’s meet next week and go through a couple of the tools. Get as many as we can, and then
511 01:16:50.220 ⇒ 01:16:53.819 Uttam Kumaran: put it all put it into figma. I’m just gonna start posting stuff in there.
512 01:16:54.050 ⇒ 01:17:03.819 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: I don’t have access right now. But what I? Because I don’t have Internet. But what I will do is text it to you. So that way I could pull from it
513 01:17:04.060 ⇒ 01:17:09.889 Cletus McKeown’s iPhone: cool. Okay, alright, man! Good luck! Talk to you soon, thanks, bye.