Meeting Title: Uttam <> Ryan Date: 2024-01-02 Meeting participants: Ryan Luke Daque, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:15:00.060 ⇒ 00:15:01.250 Uttam Kumaran: Try.
2 00:15:01.730 ⇒ 00:15:02.580 Ryan Luke Daque: Hello.
3 00:15:02.870 ⇒ 00:15:06.679 Uttam Kumaran: hey? Good morning, or I guess, good a good evening.
4 00:15:06.720 ⇒ 00:15:11.519 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah. Good morning. Good. Good. Noon or something. Oh, yeah, it’s morning.
5 00:15:12.180 ⇒ 00:15:13.600 Ryan Luke Daque: How’s it going?
6 00:15:13.960 ⇒ 00:15:16.070 Ryan Luke Daque: I’m doing great, Happy New Year.
7 00:15:16.170 ⇒ 00:15:19.039 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Happy New Year man. How was it?
8 00:15:19.500 ⇒ 00:15:24.329 Ryan Luke Daque: Pretty fun? I mean, like, I had to spend time with the
9 00:15:24.470 ⇒ 00:15:30.380 Ryan Luke Daque: the family, like the the whole bigger family. My my parents, my yeah.
10 00:15:30.500 ⇒ 00:15:38.940 Ryan Luke Daque: my wife’s relatives as well, and stuff like that, but a bit exhausting, you know.
11 00:15:39.340 ⇒ 00:15:45.049 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I know this holidays. It’s like, if it depends who you are. But I
12 00:15:45.090 ⇒ 00:16:02.970 Uttam Kumaran: it’s hard for me to. Also like I’m I’m I can’t spend that much social time family, especially so. Yeah, it was good. I just spent some time with some friends here, but I am. I don’t know I’m in. I’m in like a such a work mode this past 2 months. So
13 00:16:03.080 ⇒ 00:16:19.620 Uttam Kumaran: like my my girlfriend, she had a lot of time off. She’s a teacher, so it’s like spending a lot of time with her. Which is good. But if she’s on break I’m not on break. It’s like, there’s the conflict. So
14 00:16:21.390 ⇒ 00:16:23.990 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, everything else has been going really? Well, so
15 00:16:24.150 ⇒ 00:16:25.070 Ryan Luke Daque: nice.
16 00:16:26.450 ⇒ 00:16:49.850 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I guess first thing, yeah, there’s there’s I don’t know the wise. There’s an issue with my one of my bank accounts, like some of the names, are changed. So there’s an issue with with setting up wise. One thing I can do is I can pay PAL. I just wanna make sure that’s okay on your end. Otherwise I’m going to the bank today to get some stuff changed, and I can schedule it
17 00:16:49.920 ⇒ 00:16:55.369 Uttam Kumaran: as soon as I get that stuff resolved. Either one works for me. I don’t. I just don’t want to keep.
18 00:16:55.780 ⇒ 00:17:07.330 Uttam Kumaran: If, if, like, Paypal is easier for you, then maybe let’s let’s just do paypal that. Yeah, we can do that.
19 00:17:07.609 ⇒ 00:17:08.979 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let’s do that.
20 00:17:09.319 ⇒ 00:17:33.279 Uttam Kumaran: So I’ll go ahead and and finish that today. And then, yeah, I guess I just wanted to kind of get a sense of like. You know, we’re about like one month in like, what do you think so far? And I would love to hear a little bit about your like availability, for you know this quarter. And yeah, just hear thoughts on potentially dedicating some more time.
21 00:17:33.280 ⇒ 00:17:39.910 Uttam Kumaran: To, you know, projects for me. Would love to hear your perspective on that.
22 00:17:39.940 ⇒ 00:18:02.759 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, I I’ve been having fun so far, like it’s been like almost a month, and it it just went by so fast. And maybe it’s also because it went by. The holidays were also like integrated into like my first few weeks working with you. And but yeah, so far it’s been pretty great. I’ve I’ve learned a lot like Dash,
23 00:18:03.020 ⇒ 00:18:15.050 Ryan Luke Daque: and I haven’t really been doing a lot of dB, Dbt, core experience. So this is really great for me to like, you know, go back to working on Vs code and and stuff like that and get help.
24 00:18:15.460 ⇒ 00:18:23.400 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah. So yeah, it’s pretty. It’s pretty great. And like Snowflake as well. It’s like, my first time, like working with Snowflake. So yeah.
25 00:18:23.660 ⇒ 00:18:30.860 Ryan Luke Daque: II think I’ve I’ve learned a lot so far. And yeah, I’ve been having fun for the past few weeks.
26 00:18:31.320 ⇒ 00:18:49.029 Uttam Kumaran: That’s awesome. Yeah. I mean, I feel I feel very similar, like, I think. It’s been really great being able to have you take off some of that work, and you know I’m I know it was a little bit of a ramp up initially, but I’m glad you’re able to kind of figure everything out, and you know, I think, been able to use the new technologies
27 00:18:49.030 ⇒ 00:19:12.990 Uttam Kumaran: very quickly. So that’s been really amazing. So you know, no really much feedback on mine. I think the one thing that it’s been really helpful is, once you join. I can now think a little bit of stuff on the infer side, like getting Dbt. Bill to run on github. You know, we implement the test. So we actually move a lot of step forward. And I, just, you know, had a really good end of year meeting with the client
28 00:19:13.050 ⇒ 00:19:37.209 Uttam Kumaran: of the pool parts clients so they will likely continue to be leveraging us for data services, and we have a ton of stuff we wanna do in a New year? So that yeah, that that’s the perspective for me. That being said like, I definitely, if I don’t, I’m I just wanted to see what your availability was compared to the other kind of contracts and clients you’re working, and see whether you would. You have
29 00:19:37.280 ⇒ 00:19:46.660 Uttam Kumaran: the ability to work, you know, full time doing stuff for brain forage, whether it’s pull parts client. I also am sourcing other clients.
30 00:19:46.660 ⇒ 00:20:08.669 Ryan Luke Daque: You know, so would love to include you and have you know your time available for that. So yeah, let me know. What do you think? Well, at at this point, like, currently, I think I’m just still limited to probably maximum 4 h per day. Yeah, I also have like commitments. And like other
31 00:20:08.940 ⇒ 00:20:13.060 Ryan Luke Daque: clients, be basically and working with other part time.
32 00:20:13.080 ⇒ 00:20:17.050 Ryan Luke Daque: Projects. And yeah, it’s it’s it’s not be like
33 00:20:17.220 ⇒ 00:20:21.800 Uttam Kumaran: pretty difficult for me to like extend more hours
34 00:20:21.890 ⇒ 00:20:25.499 Ryan Luke Daque: for now, but maybe in the future that would change.
35 00:20:25.810 ⇒ 00:20:35.849 Ryan Luke Daque: But yeah, I’ll let you know if if that happens. But I guess, for now II can. What I can commit would be just like, 4 h per day.
36 00:20:36.700 ⇒ 00:21:01.450 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay, yeah. And and let me know if, like, if that equation changes based on pay. And you know, I’m able to extend that, and you’re able to work more full time for brain forage. You know, that’s something that II like flexibility on my end. So would love to hear like, you know, if that’s possible. And then yeah, in the next, whatever you have a chance. I mean again, like I,
37 00:21:01.450 ⇒ 00:21:14.250 Uttam Kumaran: I’m slowly bringing on more people. So we’re definitely, you know, I wanna I wanna invest the people that are, you know, doing really like amazing and kind of big be able to leverage you across other projects.
38 00:21:14.250 ⇒ 00:21:36.889 Uttam Kumaran: There’s definitely, you know, more money to be made. And II think, like there’s there’s opportunity there. So just wanted to extend that as I begin to kind of bring on more people. For the people that have been doing like really well. And you know, we’re slowly starting to build a little bit of a like part time team, and I’ll kind of get everyone together hopefully, this quarter to kind of meet.
39 00:21:37.230 ⇒ 00:21:52.079 Ryan Luke Daque: it’s it’s been going really? Well, so that’s kind of the only thing I wanted to put out there where? Where? If you if you see yourself having more time, and you know maybe money is like is part of the equation, you know. Let me know what you think.
40 00:21:52.240 ⇒ 00:22:00.849 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, maybe that’s one thing. Maybe if it’s a lot higher, just like one of my clients like in where I’m working on systematic. It’s like
41 00:22:01.040 ⇒ 00:22:07.560 Ryan Luke Daque: the the pay per hour is pretty high. Because III got in through and like.
42 00:22:08.420 ⇒ 00:22:12.910 Ryan Luke Daque: yeah, it’s actually pretty high compared to like what I’m I’m having
43 00:22:12.940 ⇒ 00:22:17.969 Ryan Luke Daque: from brain force right now. So, but yeah, if if like, maybe
44 00:22:19.610 ⇒ 00:22:27.659 Ryan Luke Daque: if it’s like, if it’s the same pay. And then maybe I can think about like going full time and stuff like that.
45 00:22:27.830 ⇒ 00:22:40.050 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so one, I guess if you can tell me like what that ranges? And then 2 like, yeah, if we were able to match that is that something you could do this month, or is that like, when do you think
46 00:22:40.190 ⇒ 00:22:42.389 Uttam Kumaran: like the timeline for? That would be?
47 00:22:42.610 ⇒ 00:22:43.980 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, I think.
48 00:22:44.920 ⇒ 00:22:52.169 Ryan Luke Daque: yeah, pretty much like it may be end of the month, or maybe yeah, even like halfway through the month.
49 00:22:52.520 ⇒ 00:23:11.469 Ryan Luke Daque: I can totally start. But yeah, the range, if I can give you range that it’s actually like 40 to 60 per hour. You know, like, I said, it’s like pretty high like in in, especially like for a Philippine Philippino standard. I guess that’s a pretty high range.
50 00:23:11.840 ⇒ 00:23:14.490 Ryan Luke Daque: So yeah, that’s
51 00:23:15.280 ⇒ 00:23:24.330 Ryan Luke Daque: that’s where I’m at at currently. So that’s so. It’s also one of the reasons why it’s gonna going to be hard for me to let go of that.
52 00:23:24.330 ⇒ 00:23:48.470 Uttam Kumaran: It’s 4 times yeah, I mean. So I guess for my, from my, from my, from my side, you know, I let me definitely. Take a look at what we’re projecting for this year, and I can get back to you. I think something in that range is totally something we can do but definitely, you know, if it helps that you’re just working for, you know, one firm and you know, I’m not sure what the workload is compared to there. But
53 00:23:48.470 ⇒ 00:24:04.430 Uttam Kumaran: you know you, I think the kind of the way we’ve been working is probably the way it’s gonna continue to go here. So I would say, fairly focused just on development. So let me see, like what I can do. And then maybe we can sign something for this quarter. That’s like closer to that range.
54 00:24:05.060 ⇒ 00:24:08.419 Ryan Luke Daque: yeah. Sounds good to me.
55 00:24:09.570 ⇒ 00:24:19.309 Ryan Luke Daque: And like I also mentioned, or before, I guess, like, if you need more headcount like if you have more clients, for example, aside from 2 parts to go
56 00:24:19.470 ⇒ 00:24:23.660 Ryan Luke Daque: especially considering, like currently, I’m just doing like 4 HA day.
57 00:24:23.760 ⇒ 00:24:26.930 Ryan Luke Daque: I can probably help look for
58 00:24:27.020 ⇒ 00:24:28.969 Ryan Luke Daque: for others as well.
59 00:24:29.400 ⇒ 00:24:33.830 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s that’s actually like exactly what I was gonna ask about next.
60 00:24:33.860 ⇒ 00:24:53.810 Uttam Kumaran: I definitely would be interested in getting more talent. You know, I have my network here in the States. but I’m always like trying to meet more people and understand. Like cutting the resources we have. I definitely have other work that needs to be done both on pool parts. This is this is like
61 00:24:53.810 ⇒ 00:25:13.279 Uttam Kumaran: this is, it would be including kind of the work that you’re doing, even in an 8 h capacity. There’s more work to be done. And then, really, what that helps me do is kind of free up my time to go do a lot of sales and work on a another client. So yeah, I don’t know, like I would be interested to hear like what that, what your network is like, what
62 00:25:13.410 ⇒ 00:25:24.880 Ryan Luke Daque: if you have folks in mind like I’m happy to even talk to them this week and just understand like where they’re at. Sure, I can try to contact my connections. That I know, can work
63 00:25:25.040 ⇒ 00:25:30.520 Ryan Luke Daque: like similar at a similar level, basically like a Dbt stuff like that. So
64 00:25:30.860 ⇒ 00:25:38.190 Ryan Luke Daque: yeah, I’ll try to see if they’re like available. And I’ll let you know. If there’s someone you can like interview or whatever.
65 00:25:38.660 ⇒ 00:26:07.449 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, let me know. And you know, feel free to kind of describe the work and stuff like that to them. Yeah, particularly, you know, if they have dbt, experience, is really like the linchpin. I think everything else is is not too bad. And yeah, I mean again, the one thing I described to you and my clients is like the product is like the people we have. And so my ability to kind of have, you know, great, awesome people. And I’m not looking to
66 00:26:07.450 ⇒ 00:26:12.700 Uttam Kumaran: really run like a huge organization. Really, I want people that are like.
67 00:26:12.730 ⇒ 00:26:13.670 Uttam Kumaran: like.
68 00:26:13.790 ⇒ 00:26:43.780 Uttam Kumaran: you know, really amazing and having a few of them. But they can handle a lot of work. And then we just everybody gets paid more, you know. And so that’s kind of like my goal. So a lot of ways. And this is a little bit of like background, a lot of ways that these, you know, firms typically work is, they have like junior people. They have like senior people. They have, like they all they do all this optimization instead for me. I don’t want that to be a lever for me. It’s like, I want to just work with the best people.
69 00:26:43.780 ⇒ 00:27:10.150 Uttam Kumaran: and we can only handle the amount of clients that we could handle, you know, and our and our goal is just to raise prices, and everybody gets paid more. So for me. The the key thing is just having really amazing people in the network that want to work and then allowing me to go get more clients for us, you know. So that’s really what my hope is for the company. And you know we’re slowly kind of getting there, and the ability to work on other products, you know. So yeah.
70 00:27:10.260 ⇒ 00:27:19.250 Uttam Kumaran: II sent a little bit of a note about some of the work we’re doing on the Snowflake Provider side. You know, we’re we’re constantly trying to do a bunch of different stuff.
71 00:27:19.250 ⇒ 00:27:42.999 Uttam Kumaran: An AI as well. So again, like all of that support on the data side allows us to go work on those things that bring in more revenue for the company. So yeah, that’s pretty much. That’s just so. Yeah, if you have anybody that you have in mind. I’m like, I I’m totally free to talk anytime. And you know again, it’s very similar, like they can start getting working on stuff, at least for pool parts
72 00:27:43.000 ⇒ 00:27:52.400 Ryan Luke Daque: pretty much immediately. So, gotcha, yeah, cool. Yeah. Sure. I’ll let you know once I get like confirmation from my connections.
73 00:27:52.770 ⇒ 00:27:54.660 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
74 00:27:55.010 ⇒ 00:28:21.230 Uttam Kumaran: okay, cool. I think the only thing there is a couple of new tickets I’m gonna make for pool parts based on the conversation with them. The. I guess I’ll look forward to the stuff for Kim getting completed, and then we can. I could talk a little bit about the the Google form stuff. And then the last thing. I also have begun running
75 00:28:21.620 ⇒ 00:28:47.830 Uttam Kumaran: running Dvt jobs to github and that’s actually great, cause we don’t really have to go pay now. So I’m gonna set that up on a cron, and then we can. You know, I may just like adjust. Yeah, I may just a adjust Dvt cloud to run, because the alerting is good from there. But I’m gonna kind of figure out the best way to do it. I also have it where the Dbt build runs on the Pr.
76 00:28:48.130 ⇒ 00:29:00.399 Uttam Kumaran: As well, so that way you can check both the light dash compiles succeeded and the Dbt Build succeeded before merging. So that’s I think that’s really nice. And then, yeah, I’m gonna begin to use that across
77 00:29:00.610 ⇒ 00:29:03.900 Uttam Kumaran: clients? So I think that’s
78 00:29:03.920 ⇒ 00:29:05.840 Uttam Kumaran: that’s really huge. And then.
79 00:29:05.960 ⇒ 00:29:16.280 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, there, there’s a couple of more stuff that I’m just working on some data sources. But probably the next tickets is gonna just be related to some light dash work. So sounds good.
80 00:29:16.550 ⇒ 00:29:29.310 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, currently, I’m just working on Kim’s weekly report I’ve been having like trouble looking for some of the data like revenue and stuff like that. Yeah, I don’t know if you’re gonna have
81 00:29:29.760 ⇒ 00:29:38.659 Uttam Kumaran: stuff on the revenue side. It’s mainly gonna be everything on cost. But I, yeah, yeah.
82 00:29:39.360 ⇒ 00:29:52.109 Uttam Kumaran: and so kind of so kind of the way we’re gonna do it is I wanna show Kim. So Kim is like there kind of like market like head of paid marketing. I wanna show her that we can recreate that spreadsheet in lightash.
83 00:29:52.140 ⇒ 00:29:56.220 Uttam Kumaran: and she can filter by week. And then what I’m going to say is for any data that’s
84 00:29:56.440 ⇒ 00:30:22.870 Uttam Kumaran: that we don’t have. He can use a Google form to enter it, and it’ll populate through 5 train to get a dashboard right? So there’s there’s a couple of things on the direct on the direct mail and the affiliate that I’m getting from her spreadsheet. Anything on the revenue side. So what we’ll do is like, once we get as much as we can just let me know. And then we could just take a look at the visual dashboard, and then I’m gonna set a meeting with there to then confirm that
85 00:30:22.920 ⇒ 00:30:33.460 Ryan Luke Daque: everything else will get through Google form. Gotcha. Yeah. So in in that case, I can probably send a draft like Create a Pr today like just a draft with all the
86 00:30:33.850 ⇒ 00:30:43.850 Ryan Luke Daque: SMS email and like paid ads stuff, but excluding the revenue. And then and then we can like go from there. I guess.
87 00:30:44.610 ⇒ 00:30:45.610 Ryan Luke Daque: Great.
88 00:30:45.900 ⇒ 00:30:56.210 Ryan Luke Daque: Yeah, I know. I know this also. The the Dbt project has been like, moved or like remodel. Basically. Yes, yeah, I don’t want. I wonder if you
89 00:30:56.220 ⇒ 00:31:18.190 Uttam Kumaran: I hope you didn’t have a ton of like conflict issues, but I just moved it under some folder but when you, when you when you do the poll, it should just give you the merge conflict stuff. Yeah, hopefully, it doesn’t have any complex. I’ll I’ll see today, I think I think it’ll be pretty. Yeah. I think it’ll be pretty reasonable. II did it yesterday for a branch, and
90 00:31:18.200 ⇒ 00:31:28.500 Uttam Kumaran: it it just just keep clicking the Max, and then there’s a couple of changes. So as long as you didn’t. Yeah, if you didn’t modify any other existing files, you’ll actually be pretty. Okay. Yeah.
91 00:31:28.790 ⇒ 00:31:30.300 Ryan Luke Daque: sounds good.
92 00:31:32.270 ⇒ 00:31:54.629 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, dude. So I will. I’ll figure out the payment this week. I’ll also send you a note about you know, options for expanding your hours and like what the price could be. And then, yeah, if you if you don’t mind sending me a draft of the you know that dashboard when it’s done. And then, yeah, if you have any other people in mind, that would
93 00:31:54.640 ⇒ 00:32:00.099 Uttam Kumaran: be you know, really good candidates for work. That’d be amazing, too cool. Sounds good.
94 00:32:00.830 ⇒ 00:32:05.989 Ryan Luke Daque: Thanks, alright. I’ll talk to you on slack. You, too, have a nice rest of your day.
95 00:32:06.270 ⇒ 00:32:08.199 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, you, too. Bye, bye.