Meeting Title: Superposition <> BF Sync Date: 2025-10-30 Meeting participants: David Cohen, Hannah Wang, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:01:04.780 ⇒ 00:01:05.720 David Cohen: Hey, Hannah.
2 00:01:08.310 ⇒ 00:01:09.340 Hannah Wang: Hey, David.
3 00:01:10.140 ⇒ 00:01:14.189 David Cohen: I’m gonna be off-camera for a bit, just cause I’m eating lunch, but…
4 00:01:14.190 ⇒ 00:01:15.189 Hannah Wang: Oh, no worries.
5 00:01:16.570 ⇒ 00:01:17.560 David Cohen: How’s your day, Jordan?
6 00:01:19.240 ⇒ 00:01:22.209 Hannah Wang: It’s… it’s going… yeah.
7 00:01:22.210 ⇒ 00:01:24.290 David Cohen: It’s one of those days for me, too.
8 00:01:24.520 ⇒ 00:01:29.729 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I feel like it’s been a season of… of that feeling.
9 00:01:30.310 ⇒ 00:01:31.919 Hannah Wang: But that’s okay.
10 00:01:32.120 ⇒ 00:01:46.549 Hannah Wang: I recently, or I don’t know if you knew this, but I’m also trying to become a wedding photographer, so I met with, like, a lead photographer earlier today, so that took a lot longer than I thought it would, and…
11 00:01:46.890 ⇒ 00:01:50.650 Hannah Wang: Cafe was… sweltering, but… I’m alive.
12 00:01:50.650 ⇒ 00:01:53.760 David Cohen: Are you trying to… are you trying to switch careers, like, into that?
13 00:01:54.630 ⇒ 00:02:00.590 Hannah Wang: Low-key, ideally, yes. I don’t foresee myself
14 00:02:01.230 ⇒ 00:02:05.399 Hannah Wang: doing this long-term, like, working at Brainforge.
15 00:02:05.950 ⇒ 00:02:06.710 David Cohen: Okay.
16 00:02:06.710 ⇒ 00:02:12.749 Hannah Wang: Yeah, so… yeah, it’s been a grind, trying to get that up,
17 00:02:13.080 ⇒ 00:02:24.839 Hannah Wang: But yeah, I, like, started Brainforge and photography, specifically wedding… yeah, wedding and couples photography, like, at the same time, basically, because I was just trying to figure out
18 00:02:25.430 ⇒ 00:02:30.489 Hannah Wang: in the thick of my unemployment, kind of what to do. So… Yeah, it’s both…
19 00:02:30.490 ⇒ 00:02:34.680 David Cohen: I don’t know if I told you this, but I actually used to work as a photographer.
20 00:02:34.680 ⇒ 00:02:35.910 Hannah Wang: No way.
21 00:02:36.030 ⇒ 00:02:39.289 Hannah Wang: For events, or weddings, or…
22 00:02:39.590 ⇒ 00:02:47.449 David Cohen: No, it was while I was in college. I did, photojournalism. So, like, I was a photographer for our school newspaper, so I had a job doing that.
23 00:02:47.610 ⇒ 00:02:51.249 David Cohen: And then I… I did, you know, photos on the side, I guess.
24 00:02:51.380 ⇒ 00:02:52.310 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
25 00:02:52.310 ⇒ 00:02:54.640 David Cohen: But no, weddings are…
26 00:02:54.800 ⇒ 00:02:59.069 David Cohen: too much high stress for me. Like, the weddings are the one thing I will never, ever work…
27 00:02:59.350 ⇒ 00:03:01.809 Hannah Wang: Have you done it before?
28 00:03:02.340 ⇒ 00:03:04.089 David Cohen: A wedding? No, because it’s like…
29 00:03:04.140 ⇒ 00:03:15.850 Hannah Wang: too much pressure for me of, like, messing up somebody’s, like… there’s no… there’s no repeat on the wedding, you know? Right, right. That’s why I just overshoot. That’s what I do. I just, like, keep shooting.
30 00:03:15.850 ⇒ 00:03:23.300 David Cohen: I probably would… I probably would, too. It’s just, I don’t know, there’s, like, all the planning, and it’s stressful, and, like, people get really, like.
31 00:03:23.430 ⇒ 00:03:27.400 David Cohen: really intense about weddings, too, so, like, I just don’t do that.
32 00:03:27.700 ⇒ 00:03:30.220 Hannah Wang: Oh, I feel like running your own company is…
33 00:03:30.480 ⇒ 00:03:33.950 Hannah Wang: equally as stressful, wouldn’t you say? I don’t know.
34 00:03:33.950 ⇒ 00:03:37.620 Uttam Kumaran: It just never… but it never ends. It’s like the wedding that never ends.
35 00:03:38.300 ⇒ 00:03:40.360 Uttam Kumaran: Every day is a wedding.
36 00:03:40.360 ⇒ 00:03:51.469 David Cohen: Weddings, with weddings, it’s like, nobody’s gonna get mad at me if I mess something up. Like, at my company, the only person that can get mad at myself is me. So, like, that’s not too bad.
37 00:03:52.020 ⇒ 00:03:53.220 David Cohen: Yeah, I just…
38 00:03:53.220 ⇒ 00:03:55.390 Uttam Kumaran: I fire myself every day.
39 00:03:55.680 ⇒ 00:03:57.589 David Cohen: I do that anyway every day, so…
40 00:03:59.370 ⇒ 00:04:02.470 David Cohen: But it’s… it’s good to see you guys again.
41 00:04:02.890 ⇒ 00:04:04.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Yeah, good to chat.
42 00:04:05.560 ⇒ 00:04:10.369 David Cohen: Cool. So, Hannah, where do we want to start? Because I know you had some items on the agenda.
43 00:04:10.920 ⇒ 00:04:19.229 Hannah Wang: Yeah, so I just wanted to, guess talk about our strategy for hitting all the Amtra members,
44 00:04:19.660 ⇒ 00:04:24.139 Hannah Wang: I think, yeah, we just go for it, and kind of…
45 00:04:24.240 ⇒ 00:04:33.900 Hannah Wang: I guess the next step is for me to send them, like, a description of what the workshop is, so I know, David, that you mentioned you’d kind of tweak it a little bit.
46 00:04:33.900 ⇒ 00:04:35.430 David Cohen: Let me show you guys what I built.
47 00:04:35.620 ⇒ 00:04:36.230 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
48 00:04:42.950 ⇒ 00:04:47.439 David Cohen: So I built kind of, like, an adaptation of the other board that we had created.
49 00:04:49.490 ⇒ 00:04:54.819 David Cohen: Specifically for the purposes of this session, since we’re going to be teaching rather than
50 00:04:55.640 ⇒ 00:04:59.430 David Cohen: I guess ideating would be the right way of putting it. Let me know when you can see my screen.
51 00:05:00.420 ⇒ 00:05:01.880 Hannah Wang: Yep, can see it.
52 00:05:02.150 ⇒ 00:05:04.770 David Cohen: So this is the old one, or the previous one we had.
53 00:05:05.610 ⇒ 00:05:23.880 David Cohen: So that what I did was I turned it into this, right? Similar stuff, where, like, we can kind of have a back and forth with the audience, depending on how many people it is, but I think the biggest, difference is going to be essentially using the first part for more education, rather than…
54 00:05:24.140 ⇒ 00:05:43.400 David Cohen: ideation, I guess, to begin with. So, like, Utam, like, this is something you and I, or Robert, would fill out to talk about, you know, different things that we would use AI for, specifically in the context that would be relevant to the people attending. So once we have a list of who’s attending, we might, you know, kind of think about what we want to do.
55 00:05:43.400 ⇒ 00:05:50.890 David Cohen: And then what I want to hear from them is, like, what their biggest concerns are with AI, like, so we can address some of that and kind of talk through it.
56 00:05:50.890 ⇒ 00:05:56.559 David Cohen: Then we’ll follow up by kind of going into an ideation bit, the way I’ve designed it.
57 00:05:56.560 ⇒ 00:06:11.549 David Cohen: It’s like, well, how can we solve challenges in your particular industry based on this? Like, what are your perspectives? And so we’d have different people that are attending kind of go back and forth. So, like, individually, they would give us their challenges, but we would also have them talk about it together, bounce off each other.
58 00:06:11.760 ⇒ 00:06:17.389 David Cohen: Then, same goes for the second section, right? It might be, like, doing this exercise of, like, how might we do
59 00:06:17.820 ⇒ 00:06:21.559 David Cohen: This, and then prioritizing.
60 00:06:21.560 ⇒ 00:06:39.299 David Cohen: And I think this is the bit where we might reduce for time if we need to, where we might just do the prioritization exercise, or something along those lines, so that we can essentially make it real to people that whatever we talk about in the first section can then be prioritized into things that can then get built.
61 00:06:39.440 ⇒ 00:06:55.149 David Cohen: If we have time, we can also break down those ideas, but I don’t know if we’ll have 60 to 90 minutes, so we’ll just have to pick and choose different parts of this. But what I want to leave that session with is tactically, like, these are the next steps on the bottom right here that we are going to take.
62 00:06:55.250 ⇒ 00:07:05.319 David Cohen: So obviously, like, depending on whether the attendees, which I’m… if I’m remembering correctly, it’s just a bunch of different member companies in the AmCham, right?
63 00:07:05.320 ⇒ 00:07:05.870 Hannah Wang: Yep.
64 00:07:06.400 ⇒ 00:07:10.680 David Cohen: So, it would be talking individually, like, if there’s any interest ones.
65 00:07:10.820 ⇒ 00:07:16.049 David Cohen: interested ones, we can talk through them individually. I presume we would pursue them separately
66 00:07:16.120 ⇒ 00:07:33.780 David Cohen: one by one, but maybe I’m wrong. But, anyways, that’s basically it, right? So what we would do, depending on how much time we have, is to turn… take parts of this, and then create a shorter version, sort of similar to this one, if needed. But I figured, Hannah, this would be the good place to start, so I can
67 00:07:34.140 ⇒ 00:07:37.690 David Cohen: you know, show you guys what I built, and then we can iterate as needed, obviously.
68 00:07:39.020 ⇒ 00:07:40.800 David Cohen: But, thoughts, Tom?
69 00:07:41.540 ⇒ 00:07:47.029 Uttam Kumaran: I’m fine with that. Yeah, I just want to make sure, like, I think we should just have a little bit of, like, a backup plan, too.
70 00:07:47.260 ⇒ 00:07:52.070 Uttam Kumaran: Like, just in case… We’re not getting the feedback, or…
71 00:07:52.710 ⇒ 00:07:57.359 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, like, I… maybe we should pre-script a couple things, or like…
72 00:07:57.360 ⇒ 00:08:03.579 David Cohen: I’m a little afraid about that, too. Like, I think they might be expecting us to come in and do, like, a lecture, basically.
73 00:08:03.580 ⇒ 00:08:04.550 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
74 00:08:04.780 ⇒ 00:08:10.949 David Cohen: So… Depending… that’s… I think we’re gonna have to talk about that once we get it on the books.
75 00:08:10.950 ⇒ 00:08:16.390 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. I think, like, what I’m gonna ask is for an hour of your time between now and whenever we talk.
76 00:08:16.390 ⇒ 00:08:23.160 David Cohen: So, we can basically define how we want to script that setting, once we know who’s attending specifically.
77 00:08:25.320 ⇒ 00:08:34.279 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, sure, yeah, and, you know, worst case, it’s like, if I have to facilitate, and you’re driving a different piece, or, like, I need to kind of moderate in chat, like, we can figure something out.
78 00:08:34.380 ⇒ 00:08:37.980 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, like, I just want to kind of really try to get as much
79 00:08:38.159 ⇒ 00:08:40.270 Uttam Kumaran: Interaction as possible, you know?
80 00:08:40.840 ⇒ 00:08:49.790 David Cohen: Yeah, because the part that I’m struggling with a little bit is that, since this is more educational and less tactical than the ones we usually do.
81 00:08:49.920 ⇒ 00:08:52.440 David Cohen: I have a feeling it’s gonna get, like…
82 00:08:52.800 ⇒ 00:09:03.920 David Cohen: very broad and unspecific, so, like, I want to keep it focused for them. And I don’t know how big of a group we’re dealing with, and they probably don’t even know each other, would be my guess, so…
83 00:09:03.920 ⇒ 00:09:04.540 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
84 00:09:06.000 ⇒ 00:09:06.389 Uttam Kumaran: I agree.
85 00:09:06.390 ⇒ 00:09:07.070 David Cohen: There’s that.
86 00:09:09.510 ⇒ 00:09:14.440 Hannah Wang: Okay, so maybe… Sorry, go ahead, sorry. I was just thinking, so we’d probably…
87 00:09:14.910 ⇒ 00:09:20.480 Hannah Wang: Yeah, have, like, a different session per industry, and just, like, group all the companies.
88 00:09:20.640 ⇒ 00:09:33.900 David Cohen: That’s what I was thinking, is that we would essentially do, like, group them by just whatever type of work they do. I don’t know what… how many companies they have and how they’re split, so that would be my guess, yeah.
89 00:09:34.270 ⇒ 00:09:36.240 Hannah Wang: Yeah, but it’s… there’s…
90 00:09:36.430 ⇒ 00:09:55.830 Hannah Wang: yeah, it’s like, construction, manufacturing, there’s different categories, and yeah, there’s different number of members per industry, but I feel like they can probably figure that out on their end, once we pitch, like, oh, we can host a workshop per industry, and people can just sign up, based on that.
91 00:09:57.170 ⇒ 00:09:57.850 David Cohen: So…
92 00:09:58.020 ⇒ 00:10:04.399 David Cohen: Put some… like, the outcome that I’m trying to get out of it is for individual companies to want to do.
93 00:10:04.400 ⇒ 00:10:04.940 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
94 00:10:04.940 ⇒ 00:10:08.369 David Cohen: a discovery workshop. Is that where you’re… are we aligned?
95 00:10:08.570 ⇒ 00:10:09.420 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly.
96 00:10:11.720 ⇒ 00:10:18.409 Uttam Kumaran: So, at the end of this, like, I think… I mean, again, I think we should basically make that call to action really clear.
97 00:10:18.640 ⇒ 00:10:24.510 Uttam Kumaran: like, we’re gonna send out a form, or… yeah, I mean, basically send out, like, a…
98 00:10:25.310 ⇒ 00:10:32.729 Uttam Kumaran: Response form or something at the end, and then, yes, ideally, people want to run these with us individually.
99 00:10:33.390 ⇒ 00:10:35.809 David Cohen: Yeah. Okay. No, I can bake some of that in.
100 00:10:38.520 ⇒ 00:10:42.690 Uttam Kumaran: That would be… And then… and then also, I think, again, like.
101 00:10:42.990 ⇒ 00:10:48.870 Uttam Kumaran: the tighter we run this, I think, Hannah, we could record and then… again, leverage
102 00:10:49.030 ⇒ 00:10:51.120 Uttam Kumaran: For our internal assets.
103 00:10:52.320 ⇒ 00:10:58.019 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I know, I think just more examples of us doing this live is gonna be helpful when we advertise to people.
104 00:10:58.360 ⇒ 00:10:59.900 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
105 00:11:00.120 ⇒ 00:11:03.279 David Cohen: So, Hannah, how much, how much time do we have for this session?
106 00:11:03.510 ⇒ 00:11:04.839 David Cohen: Or sessions.
107 00:11:05.010 ⇒ 00:11:17.480 Hannah Wang: I feel like they’re pretty flexible. I don’t think I… they mentioned, a time limit, so I feel like we can probably propose it, and then see if they’re… they’re game for it.
108 00:11:18.690 ⇒ 00:11:19.930 Hannah Wang: Let me see…
109 00:11:20.100 ⇒ 00:11:23.799 David Cohen: So, do you want to start with 90 minutes, Utam, or do you want to shorten to 60?
110 00:11:25.790 ⇒ 00:11:29.480 Uttam Kumaran: I would do 60, and then we have the 30 minutes if needed.
111 00:11:31.310 ⇒ 00:11:35.430 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, yeah, I mean, 90 seems like a long time to hold people’s attention.
112 00:11:35.430 ⇒ 00:11:40.260 Hannah Wang: It’s like a full-on lecture. I feel like I would lose…
113 00:11:40.980 ⇒ 00:11:41.300 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
114 00:11:41.660 ⇒ 00:11:42.920 Hannah Wang: attention span.
115 00:11:42.920 ⇒ 00:11:45.289 David Cohen: I feel like 6 is the sweet spot.
116 00:11:48.910 ⇒ 00:11:52.450 David Cohen: So 68… so I’ll reconfigure this so it’s 60 minutes long.
117 00:11:54.730 ⇒ 00:12:01.959 David Cohen: But what would help in the meantime, if you guys want to work on that, like, capture form, what I can do is incorporate it into here.
118 00:12:02.140 ⇒ 00:12:04.939 David Cohen: Or, like, the board, so we can go from there.
119 00:12:05.330 ⇒ 00:12:16.920 David Cohen: And it would probably benefit us, Hannah, to do a review with the person at the MCAM that’s, like, managing these, I guess, or whoever our contact is, just so that they’re aware of what we’re doing as well prior.
120 00:12:17.440 ⇒ 00:12:31.879 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I can… I can send them, like, a description of our proposed workshop, and then ask if they want to hop on a call just to run through it, and see if they’re… they’re down, to run this, and then we can launch it for end of November.
121 00:12:32.980 ⇒ 00:12:34.380 David Cohen: Yeah, perfect, and
122 00:12:35.570 ⇒ 00:12:48.010 David Cohen: So for the Amsham itself, in the future, are we just, like, are we trying to keep them as, like, a potential, like, retainer client for this stuff, or just, like, do these for free, so they’ll connect us to the other pieces? I’m down for either.
123 00:12:48.010 ⇒ 00:12:53.750 Uttam Kumaran: I think for either, I mean, ideally, like, I can… again, I don’t know who they’re…
124 00:12:53.950 ⇒ 00:12:56.010 Uttam Kumaran: I just don’t know what the buying…
125 00:12:56.270 ⇒ 00:13:14.909 Uttam Kumaran: power of their kind of customer bases. So for us, it’s just a kind of a distribution channel. Like, I think for AmCham, I think it depends, like, one, I mean, I can ask them, like, hey, are you guys mainly just want… like, do you want a cut if we go, like, advertise, or, like, kind of what their deal is? They may just be interested in
126 00:13:15.160 ⇒ 00:13:23.110 Uttam Kumaran: having people like us come do this, versus, like… but for us, it’s just a channel, right? Like, if we get to do this in front of, like, a bunch of people, then…
127 00:13:24.170 ⇒ 00:13:27.409 Uttam Kumaran: You know, it’s just another way for us to get in front of folks.
128 00:13:27.410 ⇒ 00:13:28.000 David Cohen: I mean, this one…
129 00:13:28.000 ⇒ 00:13:33.659 Uttam Kumaran: The other thing is then I can take… I can do this, and then go to similar AmCham-type groups.
130 00:13:33.950 ⇒ 00:13:46.329 Uttam Kumaran: share the one we did with AmCham, and then be like, come, let us do this for your team, right? So that’s… at minimum, like, that’s what our ROI is. Like, we have an example, and I can go to every other, like, sort of
131 00:13:47.620 ⇒ 00:13:52.010 Uttam Kumaran: Channel partner like this, and try to… You know, pitch us.
132 00:13:52.370 ⇒ 00:14:05.770 David Cohen: Yeah, I think this one is a good guinea pig for, like, the educational component of a workshop like this. It’s just that, like, this isn’t what I… you know, you know that’s not what I traditionally focus these on, so this is something that I’m, like, experimenting with a little bit for this time.
133 00:14:06.650 ⇒ 00:14:07.530 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
134 00:14:10.310 ⇒ 00:14:13.020 Hannah Wang: Okay, so then I have some to-dos then.
135 00:14:13.170 ⇒ 00:14:17.270 David Cohen: As do the rest of us. Hannah, anything else that you need from me on this front?
136 00:14:17.900 ⇒ 00:14:33.559 Hannah Wang: If you can give me, like, a short snippet, I can also extract it from this transcript, but if you prefer to give me a short description of the workshop, that’d be great, so that I can just send it to them, over email, and then…
137 00:14:33.560 ⇒ 00:14:38.310 Hannah Wang: I’ll also loop… I’ll CC you guys in it, so you can… you have visibility.
138 00:14:38.860 ⇒ 00:14:40.320 Hannah Wang: And…
139 00:14:40.320 ⇒ 00:14:50.350 David Cohen: For the… Yeah, I think on the… sorry, on the snippet, if you want to just take it from whatever we talked about earlier, I can refine, and maybe that might be easier, instead of me, like, crafting it from scratch.
140 00:14:50.350 ⇒ 00:14:50.910 Hannah Wang: Yep.
141 00:14:51.140 ⇒ 00:15:04.170 Hannah Wang: I’ll do that. And then for the capture form, sorry, could you repeat what that was? It’s just, like, filling out a form. Interest isn’t an interest form type of thing, if they want to keep… if they want to do a more comprehensive workshop?
142 00:15:04.300 ⇒ 00:15:05.580 Hannah Wang: Just kept that.
143 00:15:06.720 ⇒ 00:15:20.540 David Cohen: Yeah, right, so like what Utem was saying, that, like, if we’re doing this session, we want a way to incentivize people to essentially go to that website or form or whatever, and tell us that they want to do a further session after the fact.
144 00:15:21.240 ⇒ 00:15:21.940 Hannah Wang: Okay.
145 00:15:21.940 ⇒ 00:15:25.149 David Cohen: like, our usual session, the one that we did with NEFCO, for instance.
146 00:15:25.150 ⇒ 00:15:26.670 Hannah Wang: Great. Okay.
147 00:15:27.090 ⇒ 00:15:29.899 Hannah Wang: Should that be as simple as, like, a Google form?
148 00:15:30.180 ⇒ 00:15:31.399 Hannah Wang: Is that okay?
149 00:15:31.630 ⇒ 00:15:33.199 David Cohen: It’s up to you, you guys, I guess.
150 00:15:36.520 ⇒ 00:15:39.489 David Cohen: I mean, do you want to connect to your CRM? Like, I don’t care, but…
151 00:15:40.010 ⇒ 00:15:44.669 Uttam Kumaran: I think, I think, Hannah, there may be a HubSpot form That we should just leverage.
152 00:15:45.060 ⇒ 00:15:45.860 Hannah Wang: Okay.
153 00:15:45.860 ⇒ 00:15:48.700 Uttam Kumaran: I think we should just check in HubSpot, like, what their forms…
154 00:15:49.190 ⇒ 00:15:54.159 Uttam Kumaran: look like, because then it’ll easily just go right into our CRM, and then it’ll go through enrichment.
155 00:15:54.520 ⇒ 00:15:55.290 Hannah Wang: Okay.
156 00:15:57.740 ⇒ 00:16:02.689 Hannah Wang: Yep, I think that’s all. Yeah, I’ll loop you guys in, and then we can go from there.
157 00:16:03.310 ⇒ 00:16:04.110 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
158 00:16:04.110 ⇒ 00:16:10.799 David Cohen: So, Utam, on the stuff that Robert asked for, I saw you just sent him one. Do I need to send him the other one?
159 00:16:11.090 ⇒ 00:16:11.630 David Cohen: I think.
160 00:16:11.630 ⇒ 00:16:13.239 Uttam Kumaran: No, I’m gonna send him the other one.
161 00:16:13.890 ⇒ 00:16:15.149 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m gonna do that.
162 00:16:15.690 ⇒ 00:16:27.589 David Cohen: Because I think it may be next time that we do one of the ones that we did with, like, NEFCO… I didn’t think maybe the one next week might be too soon, but I think it would benefit Robert to see one live.
163 00:16:28.110 ⇒ 00:16:29.510 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
164 00:16:31.470 ⇒ 00:16:32.039 David Cohen: Because I think.
165 00:16:32.040 ⇒ 00:16:35.859 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, he just needs kind of, like, a lot of the talking points, I feel like.
166 00:16:37.980 ⇒ 00:16:46.980 David Cohen: I think, like, what happened is that the first time that you saw it in action, it clicked for you, and so, like, seeing it makes a lot more sense than hearing about this a lot.
167 00:16:50.230 ⇒ 00:16:55.010 David Cohen: But, okay, so then, in terms of the one that we’re doing next week.
168 00:16:55.760 ⇒ 00:17:00.249 David Cohen: Let me show you what I put together. Did I share this link with you? I think I did.
169 00:17:05.270 ⇒ 00:17:10.909 David Cohen: Right. So I built this thing for the one with, Austin, right? That’s his name?
170 00:17:15.630 ⇒ 00:17:17.009 David Cohen: I don’t… can you guys hear me?
171 00:17:19.359 ⇒ 00:17:22.069 Hannah Wang: I don’t know if Utom’s mic is… broken.
172 00:17:24.309 ⇒ 00:17:27.239 Hannah Wang: Yep He… he’s got…
173 00:17:27.240 ⇒ 00:17:27.790 David Cohen: How’s that come up?
174 00:17:27.790 ⇒ 00:17:28.909 Hannah Wang: Apply to my sec.
175 00:17:37.460 ⇒ 00:17:38.580 David Cohen: Hey, are you back?
176 00:17:41.760 ⇒ 00:17:42.690 Hannah Wang: Hmm…
177 00:17:43.330 ⇒ 00:17:44.120 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe not.
178 00:17:49.440 ⇒ 00:17:54.890 David Cohen: So while Utam gets back, Hannah, are you, are you trying… Oh, there he is, never mind. I’ll ask you in a second.
179 00:17:54.890 ⇒ 00:17:56.420 Hannah Wang: Sure.
180 00:17:57.550 ⇒ 00:18:03.999 David Cohen: So, what I was saying, Utam, is that I built this already for the session that we have next Tuesday with Austin for the…
181 00:18:04.000 ⇒ 00:18:04.360 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
182 00:18:04.360 ⇒ 00:18:11.590 David Cohen: ideation. I get the sense, obviously, based on his email, that this might be a much more technical conversation than the one we had with NEFCO.
183 00:18:11.760 ⇒ 00:18:12.780 David Cohen: Yeah.
184 00:18:13.150 ⇒ 00:18:16.520 David Cohen: Which doesn’t really matter to me, but it’s, you know…
185 00:18:18.050 ⇒ 00:18:18.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, man.
186 00:18:18.520 ⇒ 00:18:19.449 David Cohen: And we’re talking…
187 00:18:19.450 ⇒ 00:18:20.420 Uttam Kumaran: Premier.
188 00:18:20.720 ⇒ 00:18:21.400 Uttam Kumaran: I’m good.
189 00:18:25.540 ⇒ 00:18:27.480 David Cohen: They’re cutting in and out pretty heavy.
190 00:18:30.470 ⇒ 00:18:31.020 Uttam Kumaran: So…
191 00:18:33.440 ⇒ 00:18:34.849 David Cohen: Can you hear him, Hannah?
192 00:18:35.410 ⇒ 00:18:36.160 Hannah Wang: No.
193 00:18:36.420 ⇒ 00:18:37.829 David Cohen: Okay, good, so it’s not checked.
194 00:18:37.830 ⇒ 00:18:39.359 Uttam Kumaran: Anything? Hello?
195 00:18:39.780 ⇒ 00:18:41.250 David Cohen: Better. Yeah, better.
196 00:18:43.850 ⇒ 00:18:48.419 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess mainly what I was gonna say is I’ll, I need to email him today, and just.
197 00:18:48.420 ⇒ 00:18:48.740 David Cohen: investment.
198 00:18:48.740 ⇒ 00:18:53.950 Uttam Kumaran: confirm, like, what he wants to chat with. I should have done that earlier this week, it’s just been busy.
199 00:18:54.460 ⇒ 00:18:59.999 David Cohen: Yeah, like, I guess, does he know that, like, does he understand that we are gonna make him go through this workshop thing? Like, I guess.
200 00:19:00.000 ⇒ 00:19:05.210 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s what I’m bas… that’s what I’m basically gonna confirm with him. And I’m gonna… I’ll pitch it, and I’ll say, look, it’s…
201 00:19:05.810 ⇒ 00:19:10.750 Uttam Kumaran: we… we’re… this is, like, how we discover projects anyway, so it’s worth doing. We’ll see it kind of, like.
202 00:19:11.060 ⇒ 00:19:12.360 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll see what he says.
203 00:19:13.210 ⇒ 00:19:18.740 David Cohen: Yeah, and feel free to send them the link, by the way, I sent it to you, so this is ready to show him, if he wants to see it.
204 00:19:19.050 ⇒ 00:19:20.080 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.
205 00:19:20.330 ⇒ 00:19:25.250 Uttam Kumaran: I also think after the AmCham thing, I may actually ask Rico
206 00:19:25.650 ⇒ 00:19:32.530 Uttam Kumaran: or maybe I should put… ask Ray to do, like, a little, like, sizzle video about our workshops.
207 00:19:32.670 ⇒ 00:19:38.019 Uttam Kumaran: Like, Hannah, that might be fun to have him… Put together a little, like.
208 00:19:39.430 ⇒ 00:19:40.590 David Cohen: Like, I know…
209 00:19:40.590 ⇒ 00:19:41.510 Uttam Kumaran: video around.
210 00:19:41.800 ⇒ 00:19:46.600 David Cohen: I’m way overdue on doing that myself, so yes, I… I would second this.
211 00:19:46.600 ⇒ 00:19:47.300 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
212 00:19:52.910 ⇒ 00:19:53.530 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
213 00:19:53.530 ⇒ 00:19:59.090 David Cohen: And then hopefully, if we do the one with, Austin this Tuesday, we’ll have… I mean, now we’ll have, what, 3?
214 00:19:59.270 ⇒ 00:19:59.920 David Cohen: 4.
215 00:19:59.920 ⇒ 00:20:00.440 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
216 00:20:00.440 ⇒ 00:20:02.080 David Cohen: It pulled material from, so…
217 00:20:03.610 ⇒ 00:20:10.530 David Cohen: Okay, well, anything else that we need to talk about, or that you need to cover? Utam, anything else on your mind?
218 00:20:11.770 ⇒ 00:20:12.700 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s it.
219 00:20:16.020 ⇒ 00:20:28.469 David Cohen: So then, once… I think the immediate next step is once we know the date or the time that we want to do the first CHEM thing, that you and I meet at some point, Utam, maybe next week or the week following, to talk through the…
220 00:20:28.680 ⇒ 00:20:32.020 David Cohen: like, basically… the script.
221 00:20:32.240 ⇒ 00:20:33.960 David Cohen: Right? Okay.
222 00:20:35.960 ⇒ 00:20:36.620 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
223 00:20:37.220 ⇒ 00:20:46.090 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I’ll ask… I’ll ask Malika, she’s the contact, if she wants to do a dry run with us first, and then we can set a date for the actual… actual one.
224 00:20:46.210 ⇒ 00:20:46.900 Hannah Wang: Later. Okay.
225 00:20:46.900 ⇒ 00:20:52.139 David Cohen: Yeah, my suggestion, Hannah, would be not to ask her if she wants to do that one.
226 00:20:52.140 ⇒ 00:20:53.449 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we should get one.
227 00:20:53.810 ⇒ 00:20:59.049 David Cohen: I suggest… suggest that we want to do one, and then let her push back if she… if she doesn’t have time or something, but…
228 00:20:59.050 ⇒ 00:20:59.620 Hannah Wang: Sure.
229 00:21:00.240 ⇒ 00:21:01.110 Hannah Wang: Okay.
230 00:21:01.280 ⇒ 00:21:06.530 David Cohen: But, okay. Anything else you need from me for right now, Hannah?
231 00:21:07.170 ⇒ 00:21:07.910 Hannah Wang: Nope.
232 00:21:08.190 ⇒ 00:21:09.080 Hannah Wang: Good.
233 00:21:09.430 ⇒ 00:21:10.829 David Cohen: Alright, thank you guys.
234 00:21:10.840 ⇒ 00:21:12.520 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, thank you. Talk soon.
235 00:21:12.520 ⇒ 00:21:12.980 David Cohen: Later.
236 00:21:12.980 ⇒ 00:21:13.540 Hannah Wang: Right.