Meeting Title: Rimo | Standup Date: 2025-10-08 Meeting participants: Awaish Kumar, Surfield Thomas, Jr.
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1 00:00:11.940 ⇒ 00:00:13.060 Awaish Kumar: What’s my young lady?
2 00:00:13.510 ⇒ 00:00:14.590 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
3 00:01:36.720 ⇒ 00:01:38.560 Awaish Kumar: How long is it?
4 00:05:20.700 ⇒ 00:05:21.620 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Hey, what’s up?
5 00:05:22.300 ⇒ 00:05:23.270 Awaish Kumar: Hello.
6 00:05:24.620 ⇒ 00:05:27.229 Awaish Kumar: I’m good, how about you?
7 00:05:28.220 ⇒ 00:05:31.950 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: You were in that call, so you probably already know how I am.
8 00:05:33.300 ⇒ 00:05:35.049 Awaish Kumar: That was crazy.
9 00:05:35.220 ⇒ 00:05:40.079 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: That was probably the crazy… again, I… I suspected, I…
10 00:05:40.430 ⇒ 00:05:46.130 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Suspected as much, but yeah, that’s… That’s wild.
11 00:05:46.130 ⇒ 00:05:46.970 Awaish Kumar: You know…
12 00:05:46.970 ⇒ 00:05:50.289 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: I just think this is a very interesting situation.
13 00:05:50.490 ⇒ 00:05:53.419 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: To say the least. But we’ll make it work.
14 00:05:54.010 ⇒ 00:05:59.610 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: We now have a clear objective, .
15 00:06:00.710 ⇒ 00:06:01.280 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
16 00:06:02.110 ⇒ 00:06:06.660 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: So I guess I’ll talk about it. Do we want to wait for Amber?
17 00:06:08.090 ⇒ 00:06:11.979 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, we can continue to work on it.
18 00:06:12.960 ⇒ 00:06:15.230 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
19 00:06:18.500 ⇒ 00:06:20.720 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Give me 2 seconds…
20 00:06:23.260 ⇒ 00:06:26.450 Awaish Kumar: Your Ember is not coming, so yeah, we can just start.
21 00:06:26.880 ⇒ 00:06:27.720 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Alright, cool.
22 00:06:29.430 ⇒ 00:06:40.469 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: So… The meeting tomorrow that we scheduled, does Cameron know that we want a demo of his product?
23 00:06:41.850 ⇒ 00:06:46.000 Awaish Kumar: Do we already have a meeting? I… I can’t see in my calendar.
24 00:06:46.630 ⇒ 00:06:47.700 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: We do.
25 00:06:49.220 ⇒ 00:06:53.540 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Hold on.
26 00:06:55.160 ⇒ 00:06:58.229 Awaish Kumar: I can’t see any…
27 00:07:05.500 ⇒ 00:07:06.890 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Just give me 2 seconds.
28 00:07:12.320 ⇒ 00:07:16.850 Awaish Kumar: Oh, oh, that’s, remove weekly sync, okay.
29 00:07:18.490 ⇒ 00:07:19.310 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Yeah.
30 00:07:20.120 ⇒ 00:07:24.610 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I could see it now, but I have already sent a message in…
31 00:07:25.470 ⇒ 00:07:28.339 Awaish Kumar: In a remote channel that we want a demo?
32 00:07:29.490 ⇒ 00:07:35.840 Awaish Kumar: And But, like, he has… the camera hasn’t replied yet.
33 00:07:36.530 ⇒ 00:07:39.750 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: I can suspect why he hasn’t replied.
34 00:07:40.040 ⇒ 00:07:42.619 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Based on what we had learned earlier today.
35 00:07:44.360 ⇒ 00:07:47.959 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: There might be nothing too for him to demo.
36 00:07:48.060 ⇒ 00:07:53.929 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Which is not great. So I guess the long and the short of it is, is…
37 00:07:54.590 ⇒ 00:07:58.300 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: They do actually need the longer-tailed thing.
38 00:07:58.690 ⇒ 00:08:02.700 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: I guess… We can dice it up into two parts.
39 00:08:03.240 ⇒ 00:08:06.489 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: They just looked like they won an MVP.
40 00:08:06.860 ⇒ 00:08:16.569 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: So, we can either do an MVP-level evaluation, or a best-in-class evaluation. I think the thing that we have is for, like.
41 00:08:16.860 ⇒ 00:08:18.679 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Is this thing legit?
42 00:08:18.920 ⇒ 00:08:22.930 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: And I think that’s different from… Does this thing even work?
43 00:08:23.650 ⇒ 00:08:24.180 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Right?
44 00:08:24.860 ⇒ 00:08:30.879 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: And the only way we’re gonna know that it works is for him to literally demo it. Like, he has to actually show us it working.
45 00:08:31.160 ⇒ 00:08:38.729 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: And I think from there, it’s… that satisfies that base requirement. The requirement of…
46 00:08:39.270 ⇒ 00:08:48.709 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: is it the best way to build it? They already failed. This is not the best way to build this thing. But we don’t have to build it best in class.
47 00:08:48.980 ⇒ 00:08:51.399 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: We can just have a thing.
48 00:08:51.610 ⇒ 00:08:57.409 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: that does what they want, because when you really look at it, right? They run their entire business on Bask right now.
49 00:08:57.620 ⇒ 00:09:10.070 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: all it is is a bunch of workflows, so it’s forms, workflows, and then, like, data moves from one place, a couple APIs, and then you’re done, and then it, like, gets shipped to the patient, right? So there’s not a lot there, so we don’t have to make it a lot.
50 00:09:10.500 ⇒ 00:09:14.229 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: But we do need to make sure that the thing that Cameron built works.
51 00:09:14.810 ⇒ 00:09:16.480 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: And I don’t think anyone…
52 00:09:16.600 ⇒ 00:09:24.410 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Across any of the companies. Brain Forge, Eden, me, know if this thing actually works.
53 00:09:25.490 ⇒ 00:09:25.930 Awaish Kumar: God.
54 00:09:25.930 ⇒ 00:09:28.189 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: So, that’s the biggest red flag.
55 00:09:29.170 ⇒ 00:09:37.269 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Like, he showed me a bunch of code, and the code does things. Does it do the things that it says that it does? I have no idea, and there’s no way for me to test it.
56 00:09:42.300 ⇒ 00:09:43.589 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Right. So…
57 00:09:43.590 ⇒ 00:09:44.520 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
58 00:09:44.520 ⇒ 00:09:48.910 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Again, he didn’t even give me, like, he never put the stuff in the database, so there’s still nothing there.
59 00:09:49.160 ⇒ 00:09:52.779 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: I have no way to actually run the workflow.
60 00:09:56.280 ⇒ 00:10:02.769 Awaish Kumar: Okay, you can’t run the, like, the project, like, in a, like, in a local environment?
61 00:10:03.280 ⇒ 00:10:09.849 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: If I run it in a local environment, I’m not going to be able to hit the APIs to see if it gets sent somewhere.
62 00:10:10.720 ⇒ 00:10:15.530 Awaish Kumar: Okay… Okay.
63 00:10:16.200 ⇒ 00:10:25.010 Awaish Kumar: So, no… No local environment setup kind of thing, no staging environment. Basically.
64 00:10:25.010 ⇒ 00:10:28.440 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: There’s definitely no staging environment, because he would have sent us.
65 00:10:28.440 ⇒ 00:10:32.030 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, yeah, there’s nothing, like, at least he doesn’t share anything with us.
66 00:10:34.160 ⇒ 00:10:39.420 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: I’m looking… he still didn’t… wait, hold on, let me see. He still didn’t see the database.
67 00:10:45.050 ⇒ 00:10:47.190 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Hold on, public.
68 00:10:48.150 ⇒ 00:10:50.820 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Yep, still no seat at the tables in the database.
69 00:10:54.160 ⇒ 00:10:54.960 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Yeah.
70 00:10:56.520 ⇒ 00:10:57.200 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
71 00:10:59.410 ⇒ 00:11:00.580 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Question.
72 00:11:00.800 ⇒ 00:11:07.710 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: I should have asked Eden. Did Eden buy Remo, like, the company, or did they just do, like, an IP deal?
73 00:11:09.630 ⇒ 00:11:10.460 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: They involved…
74 00:11:10.460 ⇒ 00:11:11.560 Awaish Kumar: They bought it.
75 00:11:11.670 ⇒ 00:11:13.680 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, quite a… Yeah.
76 00:11:14.350 ⇒ 00:11:14.970 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Wow.
77 00:11:16.020 ⇒ 00:11:19.230 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: That’s amazing for Cameron.
78 00:11:20.090 ⇒ 00:11:23.630 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: To get acquired with a demo application is kind of insane.
79 00:11:26.170 ⇒ 00:11:29.460 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Alright, cool, yeah, I don’t know… yeah, I don’t…
80 00:11:30.970 ⇒ 00:11:34.530 Awaish Kumar: So, what do you suggest our next steps should be?
81 00:11:36.900 ⇒ 00:11:38.080 Awaish Kumar: from here.
82 00:11:40.280 ⇒ 00:11:43.000 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: We need to get a demo.
83 00:11:44.270 ⇒ 00:11:48.520 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: from… Cameron?
84 00:11:49.280 ⇒ 00:11:59.830 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: And he needs to demo us the flows, and then just point me at where the code starts in those flows, and then I can map everything together. Because I just have to do a feature mapping here.
85 00:12:00.340 ⇒ 00:12:08.599 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: It’s not… it’s not… yeah, it’s not crazy, it’s just I’m literally blind, like, I can’t see into the thing. Like, I… I can see all the code, and it’s just a bunch of endpoints.
86 00:12:08.760 ⇒ 00:12:10.760 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Potentially doing some stuff.
87 00:12:11.850 ⇒ 00:12:16.630 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: I have no clue, technically, what I’m looking at, and then I can’t run it, and then there’s no…
88 00:12:16.890 ⇒ 00:12:19.749 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Data for me to test it against.
89 00:12:20.300 ⇒ 00:12:24.120 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: And again, the repo that he gave me access to… hold on, let me just make sure.
90 00:12:25.270 ⇒ 00:12:27.620 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, it was just some challenge, like…
91 00:12:27.870 ⇒ 00:12:33.390 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Yeah, like, it doesn’t even have the environment variables, like, that’s what I mean, like, I couldn’t even try to run it if I really wanted to.
92 00:12:35.860 ⇒ 00:12:38.720 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Hold on, let me, let me double check. There’s no…
93 00:12:41.980 ⇒ 00:12:44.640 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Hold on, give me a second, let’s make sure.
94 00:12:45.570 ⇒ 00:12:46.700 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: That’s like that.
95 00:13:32.360 ⇒ 00:13:34.269 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Alright, hold on, can you give me 2 seconds?
96 00:14:45.590 ⇒ 00:14:48.590 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Alright… Turn back…
97 00:14:57.000 ⇒ 00:15:04.760 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Let me just double check… For my own sanity… Exactly.
98 00:15:10.500 ⇒ 00:15:14.520 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Thought me and Utam were friends, he… He set me up.
99 00:15:20.280 ⇒ 00:15:22.229 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: A hoodwing to me here.
100 00:15:28.890 ⇒ 00:15:30.070 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: And I’m just messing with them.
101 00:15:34.770 ⇒ 00:15:36.980 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Make a sacrificial limits.
102 00:16:11.850 ⇒ 00:16:19.369 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Hmm… No, let me do that. I’ll spin it up tonight and see what I can figure out.
103 00:16:21.350 ⇒ 00:16:25.429 Awaish Kumar: Okay, so… For today, let’s…
104 00:16:25.680 ⇒ 00:16:29.280 Awaish Kumar: maybe you can look into it, and I…
105 00:16:29.420 ⇒ 00:16:32.350 Awaish Kumar: I will go push for demo.
106 00:16:32.420 ⇒ 00:16:34.160 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Yeah, good morning.
107 00:16:34.760 ⇒ 00:16:37.069 Awaish Kumar: And tomorrow, we are going to…
108 00:16:38.710 ⇒ 00:16:41.550 Awaish Kumar: Basically, figure out the next steps.
109 00:16:42.580 ⇒ 00:16:43.730 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Love this.
110 00:16:43.810 ⇒ 00:16:44.810 Awaish Kumar: Thank you.
111 00:16:45.350 ⇒ 00:16:46.030 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Awesome.
112 00:16:47.540 ⇒ 00:16:48.400 Surfield Thomas, Jr.: Hey, buddy.