Meeting Title: PP2G-Data-Viz-Standup Date: 2024-05-06 Meeting participants: Patrick Trainer, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:58.840 ⇒ 00:00:59.660 Patrick Trainer: Yo.
2 00:00:59.690 ⇒ 00:01:00.380 Uttam Kumaran: Oof.
3 00:01:01.680 ⇒ 00:01:02.599 Patrick Trainer: What’s going on.
4 00:01:02.910 ⇒ 00:01:04.936 Uttam Kumaran: In a booth. Let me turn off. Blur.
5 00:01:06.170 ⇒ 00:01:06.840 Patrick Trainer: At Matt.
6 00:01:07.010 ⇒ 00:01:08.540 Uttam Kumaran: Not blur mode.
7 00:01:09.830 ⇒ 00:01:11.130 Uttam Kumaran: How’s the weekend.
8 00:01:11.370 ⇒ 00:01:13.574 Patrick Trainer: It was good wife, and I went to
9 00:01:13.920 ⇒ 00:01:17.949 Patrick Trainer: my parents house out in like Dustin, Florida.
10 00:01:17.950 ⇒ 00:01:19.159 Uttam Kumaran: How are you driving?
11 00:01:19.360 ⇒ 00:01:21.049 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, yeah. It was like.
12 00:01:21.320 ⇒ 00:01:23.180 Patrick Trainer: maybe about 4 h.
13 00:01:23.460 ⇒ 00:01:24.100 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
14 00:01:24.100 ⇒ 00:01:30.060 Patrick Trainer: And so Destin Stick, and, like their her parents, house is pretty tight, too.
15 00:01:30.060 ⇒ 00:01:30.810 Uttam Kumaran: Like, it’s like.
16 00:01:30.810 ⇒ 00:01:32.180 Patrick Trainer: Right on the water.
17 00:01:33.164 ⇒ 00:01:34.019 Patrick Trainer: And
18 00:01:34.220 ⇒ 00:01:37.892 Patrick Trainer: literally like we took the boat out. Jet skis.
19 00:01:38.300 ⇒ 00:01:39.290 Uttam Kumaran: No way.
20 00:01:39.290 ⇒ 00:01:39.700 Patrick Trainer: Yes.
21 00:01:39.700 ⇒ 00:01:41.190 Uttam Kumaran: Weekend what the fuck.
22 00:01:41.190 ⇒ 00:01:42.859 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, it was it. It was. It was like.
23 00:01:42.860 ⇒ 00:01:46.310 Uttam Kumaran: Is it? Is it already like summer? It’s already May sixth, I guess down there.
24 00:01:46.540 ⇒ 00:01:47.999 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, it’s it’s like.
25 00:01:48.200 ⇒ 00:01:55.220 Patrick Trainer: it was like, 85 90 degrees. I mean, no clouds in the sky.
26 00:01:55.689 ⇒ 00:02:08.280 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, it was. It was awesome. And so yeah, they’re like, right on the water. And they’re on like the. So there’s the Gulf. And then there’s like the Back Bay, which is basically so like
27 00:02:08.340 ⇒ 00:02:14.620 Patrick Trainer: Panhandle, Florida is basically like split into. And so you can. There’s like an inner coastal, essentially.
28 00:02:15.758 ⇒ 00:02:22.749 Patrick Trainer: And so they’re right on the inner coastal. And so it’s like it’s super calm and like
29 00:02:23.880 ⇒ 00:02:30.119 Patrick Trainer: it like it’s I mean, also massive. But they’ve got like a big dock that goes out boat and.
30 00:02:30.120 ⇒ 00:02:30.890 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, no way.
31 00:02:30.890 ⇒ 00:02:32.419 Patrick Trainer: He’s got a pool
32 00:02:32.990 ⇒ 00:02:37.608 Patrick Trainer: all the shit like I mean great food. We were grilling just about every day, and then.
33 00:02:37.880 ⇒ 00:02:39.819 Uttam Kumaran: So great like. You drove home yesterday.
34 00:02:40.100 ⇒ 00:02:44.050 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, we got home last night, probably around like one Am.
35 00:02:44.410 ⇒ 00:02:44.800 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, there!
36 00:02:45.078 ⇒ 00:02:50.359 Patrick Trainer: But it. And it was yeah, it was just a it was a good time. I’ll I have.
37 00:02:50.520 ⇒ 00:02:52.289 Patrick Trainer: I’ll I’ll send some pictures over.
38 00:02:52.290 ⇒ 00:02:53.400 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, bunch of pictures.
39 00:02:53.400 ⇒ 00:02:56.870 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, it was. But yeah, it was. It was sick like we
40 00:02:57.200 ⇒ 00:03:03.029 Patrick Trainer: out on the boat all day, and like we drove. And then there’s like a lot of like
41 00:03:03.290 ⇒ 00:03:04.670 Patrick Trainer: small.
42 00:03:05.040 ⇒ 00:03:08.180 Patrick Trainer: almost like islands that you can.
43 00:03:08.540 ⇒ 00:03:15.939 Patrick Trainer: They’re really just like sand bars, and you can just like beach the boat and get out, and like we had chairs and stuff that.
44 00:03:15.940 ⇒ 00:03:16.829 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice!
45 00:03:16.830 ⇒ 00:03:21.020 Patrick Trainer: Just sitting out in the middle of nowhere like, I think I
46 00:03:21.070 ⇒ 00:03:27.520 Patrick Trainer: maybe looked at my phone, maybe twice the entire weekend. And it was it was. It was fantastic.
47 00:03:27.520 ⇒ 00:03:34.309 Uttam Kumaran: Nice. Yeah, I was just working a little bit on like random stuff. But I mean it was good. I had a good weekend. I’m like
48 00:03:34.440 ⇒ 00:03:39.289 Uttam Kumaran: I I I stopped drinking coffee like 2 weeks ago, so I’m like off coffee. I’m like.
49 00:03:39.290 ⇒ 00:03:39.840 Patrick Trainer: Up and up.
50 00:03:39.840 ⇒ 00:03:43.820 Uttam Kumaran: Like not drinking for a bit. I’m like resetting after travel.
51 00:03:43.820 ⇒ 00:03:44.250 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.
52 00:03:44.724 ⇒ 00:03:49.945 Uttam Kumaran: So, but that means I’m very productive. Very good about
53 00:03:50.430 ⇒ 00:03:58.049 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, then that means you’re just gonna see me talking in slack like all hours of the day, cause I can’t trying to figure some stuff out so.
54 00:03:58.270 ⇒ 00:04:02.990 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, so alright. Here’s I just sent over a link like Destin, Florida.
55 00:04:04.560 ⇒ 00:04:05.760 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice!
56 00:04:07.120 ⇒ 00:04:11.540 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, so it’s, I mean, yeah, they have like paddle boards. And
57 00:04:12.780 ⇒ 00:04:14.660 Patrick Trainer: all this stuff. It’s like
58 00:04:14.860 ⇒ 00:04:17.769 Patrick Trainer: quintessential Florida living.
59 00:04:20.010 ⇒ 00:04:25.160 Uttam Kumaran: Trying to look at. Oh, okay, it’s near. Oh, it’s so close to you guys. Oh, it’s near Pensacola. Okay, I know where that.
60 00:04:25.160 ⇒ 00:04:27.500 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s like.
61 00:04:27.500 ⇒ 00:04:29.580 Uttam Kumaran: Dude. It’s very close to you.
62 00:04:30.500 ⇒ 00:04:34.309 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, we’re like, like, I said, it was like 3 and a half.
63 00:04:34.330 ⇒ 00:04:36.229 Patrick Trainer: 4 h or so, like.
64 00:04:36.720 ⇒ 00:04:38.729 Patrick Trainer: I think we like stopped to.
65 00:04:38.730 ⇒ 00:04:43.080 Uttam Kumaran: So in Destin? Is there even like? Is there even like a place to live there?
66 00:04:43.310 ⇒ 00:04:43.960 Uttam Kumaran: Yet.
67 00:04:43.960 ⇒ 00:04:49.249 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there’s towns I mean high schools this and that.
68 00:04:50.360 ⇒ 00:04:50.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
69 00:04:50.890 ⇒ 00:04:52.310 Patrick Trainer: She’s she’s been there
70 00:04:53.040 ⇒ 00:04:59.690 Patrick Trainer: like. So her parents are in the Air Force, and there’s Air Force bases kind of like all over
71 00:05:00.030 ⇒ 00:05:04.350 Patrick Trainer: Panhandle, Florida, but also, like Mississippi, Alabama. There’s.
72 00:05:04.350 ⇒ 00:05:04.860 Uttam Kumaran: Union.
73 00:05:04.860 ⇒ 00:05:08.396 Patrick Trainer: One here, too, but like they were always in in
74 00:05:08.830 ⇒ 00:05:10.300 Patrick Trainer: the Destin area.
75 00:05:10.460 ⇒ 00:05:11.639 Patrick Trainer: and so like
76 00:05:12.080 ⇒ 00:05:28.879 Patrick Trainer: her, telling stories of like her growing up and like in high school, it’s like, basically like, like, I used to go to the movie theater and hang out and like parking lots this and that. And she’s like, Yeah, we’re at the beach every single day. And like, yeah.
77 00:05:29.560 ⇒ 00:05:38.779 Patrick Trainer: but yeah, super clear water, like we would take the boat out. And we saw like a. It’s not like school fish, but it was school crab, just like water.
78 00:05:38.780 ⇒ 00:05:39.549 Uttam Kumaran: Little legs.
79 00:05:39.550 ⇒ 00:05:47.800 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, just walking on the bottom. And it’s like 12 feet down. It’s like, just like a swimming pool, basically just like miles wide.
80 00:05:47.800 ⇒ 00:05:48.340 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
81 00:05:48.340 ⇒ 00:05:53.019 Patrick Trainer: And so, yeah, that was, that was pretty good. That was, that was, that was a fun time.
82 00:05:53.270 ⇒ 00:05:53.990 Uttam Kumaran: Sick.
83 00:05:55.380 ⇒ 00:05:57.310 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, yeah, cool. Yeah.
84 00:05:57.550 ⇒ 00:06:02.540 Patrick Trainer: Yeah. Yeah. What’s how was did you talk with Dan and Ben? Or.
85 00:06:02.540 ⇒ 00:06:07.220 Uttam Kumaran: I haven’t. So I haven’t messaged them. So we sent the email Friday or
86 00:06:07.260 ⇒ 00:06:16.219 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Friday night or Friday morning. And then I also sent the long update email yesterday, rehashing the 2
87 00:06:16.770 ⇒ 00:06:21.969 Uttam Kumaran: like dashboards, and then also sending over Jacob’s thing.
88 00:06:22.254 ⇒ 00:06:25.250 Uttam Kumaran: So I guess, like one thing I wanted to do is, I think it.
89 00:06:25.300 ⇒ 00:06:35.270 Uttam Kumaran: I think, overall what I’m gonna do. Especially as like I. So I’m gonna I’m sending out an offer letter to Nicholas today. Basically, also, I think we’re gonna start to do things like
90 00:06:35.310 ⇒ 00:06:37.550 Uttam Kumaran: have meetings per client.
91 00:06:37.630 ⇒ 00:06:55.899 Uttam Kumaran: because I know some people are like working on multiple clients, and then maybe have one team meeting cause there are some like internal stuff, and but not do that one every day, so we’ll get a little bit more organized. But basically, I think for some clients, there’s like one primary workstream for this one. There’s there’s like 2. But we’re gonna continue to have
92 00:06:55.970 ⇒ 00:07:13.309 Uttam Kumaran: clients where we have multiple. So one thing is like, and this will change a little bit when Nicholas joins. But it’s just like getting tighter on like, okay for this work stream. What are all the deliverables? And then there’s definitely going to be like internal brain forage stuff. I’m trying to figure out what the 80 20 on that is.
93 00:07:13.310 ⇒ 00:07:14.050 Patrick Trainer: Right.
94 00:07:14.050 ⇒ 00:07:16.340 Uttam Kumaran: Internal cross client stuff
95 00:07:16.510 ⇒ 00:07:21.020 Uttam Kumaran: and per client stuff. And then also like how to bill for that. Basically, it’s like
96 00:07:21.390 ⇒ 00:07:27.380 Uttam Kumaran: we so like, kind of the the way, like the money works, is like we bill directly to the client.
97 00:07:27.410 ⇒ 00:07:31.890 Uttam Kumaran: And then there’s some buffer that, like I’m comfortable with being like this is just
98 00:07:31.990 ⇒ 00:07:46.129 Uttam Kumaran: cash that we have for Rnd internal. I don’t know yet what that margin is, and so I can’t really decide well how much time. Right. And so that’s where, like, I kind of want to go, which is where I always wanted to go, actually is like.
99 00:07:46.560 ⇒ 00:07:58.240 Uttam Kumaran: I want there to be direct client billing. And then I want there to be a buffer for, like trying out cool shit or processes cross client that like, it’s almost like
100 00:07:58.260 ⇒ 00:08:00.219 Uttam Kumaran: that’s our platform investment. Basically.
101 00:08:00.220 ⇒ 00:08:01.470 Patrick Trainer: Right, right, right, right.
102 00:08:01.811 ⇒ 00:08:15.479 Uttam Kumaran: So that being said, I think, like I just still the number one breadwinner is like doing the shit for the clients. And so one of the thing I wanna make sure is that especially on this one, as
103 00:08:15.540 ⇒ 00:08:18.879 Uttam Kumaran: cool parts, we have, like the 2 different, we have 2 different
104 00:08:18.950 ⇒ 00:08:39.920 Uttam Kumaran: streams. We have one particularly for data vis, which, like, you’re kind of owning. And then we have one. For, like just all the data engineering related things. That I was owning. And now it’s kind of just like we. Of course, we have a bunch of tickets open so particularly for the data vis. I wanna make sure that every week we have things that are coming in and out, and that
105 00:08:40.000 ⇒ 00:08:45.210 Uttam Kumaran: kind of like come from your side, which is like, but it could be. It could be worked on by anyone on the team.
106 00:08:45.530 ⇒ 00:08:51.639 Uttam Kumaran: which is, which is kind of like the interesting thing is like, I think there is better use of your time
107 00:08:51.710 ⇒ 00:08:57.489 Uttam Kumaran: than doing like small dashboard fixes. But I also think
108 00:08:58.070 ⇒ 00:09:08.299 Uttam Kumaran: you you have a good ability to kind of like orchestrate who works on what? And you can kind of tell that that’s what I’ve been doing where it’s like. Ryan Ryan has a particular skill set
109 00:09:08.667 ⇒ 00:09:14.579 Uttam Kumaran: Jacob is a particular skill set. Augustine is a particular skill set, and then I think both of us can really sub in
110 00:09:14.800 ⇒ 00:09:19.869 Uttam Kumaran: like kind of like, wherever and that’s how I’m starting to look at things where it’s like
111 00:09:20.010 ⇒ 00:09:25.699 Uttam Kumaran: I can sub in wherever I think you. I think the both of us, probably the only people that can sub in like, wherever we need to go.
112 00:09:25.700 ⇒ 00:09:26.080 Patrick Trainer: Right.
113 00:09:26.080 ⇒ 00:09:31.080 Uttam Kumaran: We have a lot of overlapping skill set, but I also want to utilize them where needed. But then
114 00:09:31.250 ⇒ 00:09:32.690 Uttam Kumaran: I would say.
115 00:09:32.740 ⇒ 00:09:42.609 Uttam Kumaran: they’re each of them are gonna have blind spots where they’re gonna either need to upskill or we’re just gonna say, Hey, you don’t know this thing. We’re gonna fill in.
116 00:09:42.730 ⇒ 00:09:47.089 Uttam Kumaran: So so a good a good example is like, if we were to take the
117 00:09:47.550 ⇒ 00:10:12.940 Uttam Kumaran: fixes for the vital signs. That would have been a great thing to be like, okay, Ryan, just go implement all these fixes. Here’s a detailed list of every single thing you need to do. Go for it. I don’t mind. I don’t mind having Ryan go and own that cause. Ryan is working on multiple clients, and he can go on that. But the thing is, that would have been a great thing to be like. Okay, he runs that. And now let’s figure out like, okay, what else we need to do? Go engage with them, make sure that work gets done.
118 00:10:13.420 ⇒ 00:10:13.790 Patrick Trainer: Right.
119 00:10:13.790 ⇒ 00:10:20.880 Uttam Kumaran: And so that’s like one thing I would I want to share with you is like, I think we have all the tools internally to kind of like.
120 00:10:20.890 ⇒ 00:10:25.949 Uttam Kumaran: really nail this one. I think my feedback would be
121 00:10:26.070 ⇒ 00:10:50.870 Uttam Kumaran: push off work where it’s like, you know, it’s like, Okay, I’m just not motivated to, or this thing is like really small and like whatever, push that off because we have other people. And I also think you also. Now, Jacob and Jacob is a great analysis. Skill set. Is like really good analysis, really good articulating analysis. And we can utilize him in places, too. But we’re gonna continue to be like
122 00:10:50.880 ⇒ 00:10:55.519 Uttam Kumaran: the front facing client relation. How the work is executed.
123 00:10:56.220 ⇒ 00:10:57.959 Uttam Kumaran: We have, like free reign right.
124 00:10:57.960 ⇒ 00:10:58.880 Patrick Trainer: Right, right.
125 00:10:59.670 ⇒ 00:11:02.899 Patrick Trainer: Okay, cool. Yeah. I mean it. It’s it’s a good.
126 00:11:03.400 ⇒ 00:11:14.370 Patrick Trainer: I agree, like, we’re, I think we’re just getting now to the point where delegating work makes sense rather than having like one person. And so I think.
127 00:11:15.880 ⇒ 00:11:18.090 Patrick Trainer: like that may be partially
128 00:11:18.370 ⇒ 00:11:20.130 Patrick Trainer: where those
129 00:11:20.210 ⇒ 00:11:25.570 Patrick Trainer: like, if you say like blind spots from from us like we’re working across this. Fill in.
130 00:11:25.570 ⇒ 00:11:25.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
131 00:11:25.970 ⇒ 00:11:29.860 Patrick Trainer: Here and there and then like, if we have more of a
132 00:11:30.310 ⇒ 00:11:32.290 Patrick Trainer: kind of like bridge, that gap.
133 00:11:32.310 ⇒ 00:11:35.310 Patrick Trainer: I think, yeah, I think that’d be that makes a lot of sense.
134 00:11:35.310 ⇒ 00:11:43.189 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And I just like, Look, we’re not billing them. We’re not billing people yet on like you have, like one senior person, one junior person, and blah blah blah like.
135 00:11:43.260 ⇒ 00:11:48.569 Uttam Kumaran: and I don’t know whether we’ll we’ll we’ll get to that. But more I’m like, Look! We have people that are
136 00:11:48.750 ⇒ 00:11:53.309 Uttam Kumaran: for me. I I was more interested in, like our time, and senior engineers like
137 00:11:53.320 ⇒ 00:12:07.169 Uttam Kumaran: we can think about problems or high level do really difficult things. But stuff like making dash for updates. I want to hand off to junior people, because, like, that’s that’s like the things that they can really nail. And they can fill their plate with that work, and it’s a great
138 00:12:07.320 ⇒ 00:12:09.661 Uttam Kumaran: team, and the economics really work well.
139 00:12:10.330 ⇒ 00:12:10.730 Patrick Trainer: Right.
140 00:12:10.730 ⇒ 00:12:21.060 Uttam Kumaran: And then also again, it actually makes us we don’t. We don’t necessarily. We’re not always completely occupied, because and then that way, we can go get more clients where
141 00:12:21.400 ⇒ 00:12:34.209 Uttam Kumaran: it’s like it’s I wouldn’t feel comfortable having Ryan on the scene like a senior engineering part of a client right now, but I think me and you can discuss the entire pipeline. It’s great. So if I bring on a new client, it’s like cool.
142 00:12:34.240 ⇒ 00:12:42.379 Uttam Kumaran: Then we could figure out, okay, it’s almost like a is it? Like one senior person, 2 junior people. And then like a project manager across everything. And like, that’s like
143 00:12:42.530 ⇒ 00:12:54.689 Uttam Kumaran: the sandwich right now. So that’s kind of like, these are just like kind of the way I’ve been like thinking of, like, okay, how do we make the sausage but if it’s like, I know my reservations. And I get into the same
144 00:12:54.730 ⇒ 00:12:56.480 Uttam Kumaran: issues which is like.
145 00:12:56.850 ⇒ 00:13:09.829 Uttam Kumaran: there’s work that I really love is really difficult that I can really knock out. And then there’s like small, really like boring rope things that I’m like. It just gets left on the back burner then. But the nice thing is like that’s cause. That’s work I’ve done. It’s like
146 00:13:10.150 ⇒ 00:13:12.499 Uttam Kumaran: it’s like making the rice in the sushi kind.
147 00:13:12.500 ⇒ 00:13:13.840 Patrick Trainer: Right, right, right.
148 00:13:13.840 ⇒ 00:13:39.619 Uttam Kumaran: Sushi. I don’t wanna make the rice like someone else can make the rice, and then they can level up. And so that’s why I think I you know I don’t. And I definitely, you know, I think we I didn’t make that super clear before. But I just wanna let you know if you have a lot of support other people on the team, and like we should utilize everybody. You know. And then and then that’s that’s that’s the way the math really works, you know. So.
149 00:13:39.620 ⇒ 00:13:42.779 Patrick Trainer: And I I think that, too, reflects well on
150 00:13:44.130 ⇒ 00:13:50.290 Patrick Trainer: the product that brain forge delivers to across the board. So you like you mentioned having, like
151 00:13:51.300 ⇒ 00:13:56.029 Patrick Trainer: like a client, has a senior engineer, junior engineer that’s almost
152 00:13:56.070 ⇒ 00:14:06.919 Patrick Trainer: to me that speaks like a almost like a tiered pricing structure. And it’s like, oh, if you get a junior engineer, that kind of puts that mental bias of like, oh, this product isn’t.
153 00:14:06.920 ⇒ 00:14:07.280 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
154 00:14:07.280 ⇒ 00:14:12.850 Patrick Trainer: Good. But if we kind of like abstract that on on our side, and it’s just like
155 00:14:13.100 ⇒ 00:14:14.480 Patrick Trainer: you get what you.
156 00:14:14.480 ⇒ 00:14:16.049 Uttam Kumaran: Get what they get with the air. Yeah.
157 00:14:16.050 ⇒ 00:14:18.570 Patrick Trainer: And and like, that’s going to be
158 00:14:18.930 ⇒ 00:14:22.320 Patrick Trainer: high quality stuff and like it doesn’t put that like weird
159 00:14:22.360 ⇒ 00:14:23.450 Patrick Trainer: mental
160 00:14:23.620 ⇒ 00:14:31.049 Patrick Trainer: to bias or whatever on the client side. Then, like there it it kind of works for for everyone. It’s like a win win.
161 00:14:31.050 ⇒ 00:14:39.950 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And I totally agree. And that’s why I wanted to spend time and invest in like things that I would describe as a platform, because it helps every client not only the new client.
162 00:14:39.950 ⇒ 00:14:40.800 Patrick Trainer: Right like right.
163 00:14:40.800 ⇒ 00:14:45.760 Uttam Kumaran: Stuff that we’ve done many times. Existing clients get a huge level up, but none of that work
164 00:14:45.940 ⇒ 00:14:48.760 Uttam Kumaran: would have been unique to one client, and so I don’t want to.
165 00:14:48.760 ⇒ 00:14:49.339 Patrick Trainer: Right, yeah.
166 00:14:49.340 ⇒ 00:15:00.119 Uttam Kumaran: Right and the nice thing in our in our world there is margin. And so I wanna use the margin effectively to improve like our platform, which is, becomes like our moat, that becomes.
167 00:15:00.120 ⇒ 00:15:00.640 Patrick Trainer: Right.
168 00:15:00.640 ⇒ 00:15:05.699 Uttam Kumaran: True company, like assets or true IP is like our ability to take on new clients, execute.
169 00:15:05.750 ⇒ 00:15:17.399 Uttam Kumaran: start like, deploy all these things in like a few days instead of a few weeks and and then also like that, also becomes the ability for any engineer to come in and actually succeed here. Right? So that’s.
170 00:15:17.400 ⇒ 00:15:18.010 Patrick Trainer: Right.
171 00:15:18.010 ⇒ 00:15:29.419 Uttam Kumaran: Like the next pillar I kind of look at is like, what is the someone’s like first day of first week, first month look like where we can take any data engineer, a data analyst, and then they can become like
172 00:15:29.810 ⇒ 00:15:32.070 Uttam Kumaran: super leveled up rampant.
173 00:15:32.070 ⇒ 00:15:32.870 Patrick Trainer: And yeah.
174 00:15:32.870 ⇒ 00:15:38.479 Uttam Kumaran: Ramp quickly and ramp to a level where it’s like, oh, this is like a year’s worth of experience that you would have gone and.
175 00:15:38.480 ⇒ 00:15:38.870 Patrick Trainer: Right.
176 00:15:38.870 ⇒ 00:16:06.570 Uttam Kumaran: Think about a lot of it, because again, that becomes our advantage. Similarly, about like having like low process and like having a lot of like clarity of like what we’re doing. And that’s, you know, it’s kind of like why I wanted to get the project managed, because that all is just like greases the wheel. But how do I think about us versus others? There are other consultancies that do not think about having a platform structure, because, they’re not engineers, and they don’t know that there are these like cross.
177 00:16:06.920 ⇒ 00:16:10.540 Uttam Kumaran: There are these cross client opportunities.
178 00:16:10.540 ⇒ 00:16:11.000 Patrick Trainer: Right.
179 00:16:11.460 ⇒ 00:16:15.638 Uttam Kumaran: You know, and but you can’t fund that. I couldn’t ask pool parts to fund that.
180 00:16:15.900 ⇒ 00:16:16.220 Patrick Trainer: Right.
181 00:16:16.220 ⇒ 00:16:36.949 Uttam Kumaran: But they don’t re they. The thing is in our end. We haven’t. We have cushion, and so I wanna take some of the cash and make sure that everybody’s paid, and that everybody can. If we do have these things that are like, okay, we don’t. Maybe we won’t realize the investment now, but it’s gonna help every client. I’m not gonna say, Okay, that’s like a third from here. Third from here. Third, for I’m like there’s there’s just cash.
182 00:16:37.330 ⇒ 00:16:37.680 Patrick Trainer: Right.
183 00:16:37.680 ⇒ 00:16:41.249 Uttam Kumaran: And that. Let’s fund that, and let’s do it because it helps everybody.
184 00:16:41.250 ⇒ 00:16:41.580 Patrick Trainer: Right.
185 00:16:41.940 ⇒ 00:16:45.900 Uttam Kumaran: That that one investment, although, may have taken like 4 h
186 00:16:46.000 ⇒ 00:16:48.659 Uttam Kumaran: now, it becomes something that we’ve added to each person.
187 00:16:49.120 ⇒ 00:16:49.820 Patrick Trainer: Right, right.
188 00:16:49.820 ⇒ 00:16:50.450 Uttam Kumaran: I’m for the company.
189 00:16:50.450 ⇒ 00:16:51.670 Patrick Trainer: Spreads out, yeah.
190 00:16:51.670 ⇒ 00:16:56.170 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly, and then it all goes back to like I just wanna over exceed expectations right?
191 00:16:56.170 ⇒ 00:16:57.130 Patrick Trainer: Right. That’ll do.
192 00:16:57.130 ⇒ 00:17:05.240 Uttam Kumaran: So there’s a lot of cushion when we renegotiate, and we do renewals, or we ask for referrals like the cash. We cash the ticket.
193 00:17:05.240 ⇒ 00:17:23.310 Patrick Trainer: Right? Right? And that’s like the I mean to me that speaks like that’s the automating of things. That’s the like. What you said. Standing up a platform in days rather than weeks. That’s the getting our Dbt builds faster catching errors like with all the elementary stuff like
194 00:17:23.690 ⇒ 00:17:32.700 Patrick Trainer: Dan and Ben, don’t give a shit about elementary or like what we’re doing on on on the back side, like they care about like what they’re doing. But to
195 00:17:33.250 ⇒ 00:17:34.130 Patrick Trainer: get
196 00:17:34.430 ⇒ 00:17:42.430 Patrick Trainer: that same level of satisfaction between, like Stella pooparts this and that, like. They’re all getting this baseline product and.
197 00:17:42.430 ⇒ 00:17:50.060 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, even though the biggest client, the smallest client, still wins right. And that thing is like that gives us so much leverage. Because
198 00:17:50.520 ⇒ 00:17:57.579 Uttam Kumaran: we’re we’re we’re more in a position of like, oh, we’re so we’re like, we’ve given you so much value. And then guess what we’ve already invested time. That work.
199 00:17:57.580 ⇒ 00:17:58.410 Patrick Trainer: Right.
200 00:17:58.600 ⇒ 00:18:04.680 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s these are the kind of things on my mind, I guess, particularly related to pool parts this week.
201 00:18:04.720 ⇒ 00:18:11.709 Uttam Kumaran: The couple of things that I wanted to do is like one really see if we can like get on the phone or something with with Dan.
202 00:18:11.820 ⇒ 00:18:30.520 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’ll that’ll really be amazing. I sent that previous email out. But and I know that that was maybe on Friday morning. They haven’t responded yet to the one I sent yesterday, but I would say one, it would be great to send a follow up to that. No, and say, let’s see, what do you think about the changes.
203 00:18:30.520 ⇒ 00:18:30.990 Patrick Trainer: Right.
204 00:18:31.020 ⇒ 00:18:33.119 Uttam Kumaran: The Se. The second thing is,
205 00:18:33.860 ⇒ 00:18:35.270 Uttam Kumaran: there are some
206 00:18:35.980 ⇒ 00:18:37.649 Uttam Kumaran: changes on shipping
207 00:18:37.890 ⇒ 00:18:48.680 Uttam Kumaran: that they were like. I I guess Dan’s been looking at that shipping dashboard that, I think, is a great opportunity for us to just like nail that some of that relies on some modeling that
208 00:18:49.250 ⇒ 00:18:57.690 Uttam Kumaran: that Ryan is working on. But either way, I think whatever he needs on shipping to make happen, I think that’s a great next opportunity for a set of work.
209 00:18:57.690 ⇒ 00:18:58.300 Patrick Trainer: Right.
210 00:18:58.300 ⇒ 00:18:59.140 Uttam Kumaran: I’m
211 00:18:59.490 ⇒ 00:19:02.610 Uttam Kumaran: and then the third thing is getting
212 00:19:02.620 ⇒ 00:19:10.339 Uttam Kumaran: Jacob’s thing up and running in a net, Lefty app, and then moving him to the next biggest opportunity.
213 00:19:10.340 ⇒ 00:19:11.705 Patrick Trainer: Right? Okay, cool.
214 00:19:14.392 ⇒ 00:19:20.730 Patrick Trainer: Other idea. I was thinking like in light dash, you can kind of see, like, who’s viewing what.
215 00:19:21.020 ⇒ 00:19:21.610 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
216 00:19:22.020 ⇒ 00:19:26.110 Patrick Trainer: What if we just like tailed Dan’s like like.
217 00:19:26.110 ⇒ 00:19:26.520 Uttam Kumaran: No, I.
218 00:19:26.520 ⇒ 00:19:28.000 Patrick Trainer: What he’s, what he’s looking.
219 00:19:28.000 ⇒ 00:19:30.299 Uttam Kumaran: Like. So they have limited usage.
220 00:19:30.500 ⇒ 00:19:47.269 Uttam Kumaran: So we have limited usage stats, not they. They that Ben has pretty good usage. Kim and Kim has pretty good usage. Dan comes in and out. But I think we may have to actually look at the Snowflake query history cause the lights. Analytics. Isn’t that great?
221 00:19:47.270 ⇒ 00:19:47.680 Patrick Trainer: Right.
222 00:19:47.680 ⇒ 00:19:53.000 Uttam Kumaran: But but you’re right. Like I, I ideally, that’s our true
223 00:19:53.090 ⇒ 00:19:56.440 Uttam Kumaran: evaluation of like, are people using it
224 00:19:57.120 ⇒ 00:20:00.340 Uttam Kumaran: as close as we can get to.
225 00:20:00.510 ⇒ 00:20:06.940 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, if they’re looking at it. That means they’re inquiring about something. And then we could almost like flag that, hey? Somebody looked at something.
226 00:20:06.940 ⇒ 00:20:07.430 Patrick Trainer: Right.
227 00:20:07.430 ⇒ 00:20:11.759 Uttam Kumaran: That’s what it would be great to get to at this stage. It’s more like
228 00:20:12.200 ⇒ 00:20:19.450 Uttam Kumaran: I, the best thing I realize when when there’s kind of this sort of a gap of people just like, get on the phone and be like what’s good. I’m here for you.
229 00:20:19.450 ⇒ 00:20:20.000 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.
230 00:20:20.000 ⇒ 00:20:28.538 Uttam Kumaran: Then we talk every 3 days. So I think it’d be great today if you wanna send a note. Say, Hey, we’re here like we’re ready to kind of move on this stuff.
231 00:20:28.830 ⇒ 00:20:29.970 Uttam Kumaran: and then
232 00:20:31.420 ⇒ 00:20:33.790 Uttam Kumaran: run towards the shipping and the
233 00:20:34.040 ⇒ 00:20:35.370 Uttam Kumaran: refund stuff.
234 00:20:35.370 ⇒ 00:20:41.619 Patrick Trainer: Right? Right? Right? Right? Yeah. Cause like the way I see it, too. It’s like Dan’s kind of the
235 00:20:41.720 ⇒ 00:20:48.119 Patrick Trainer: the megaphone of of pool parts, and he’s also very. He’s like, seems kinda
236 00:20:48.430 ⇒ 00:21:00.970 Patrick Trainer: not sporadic. There’s Scatterbrain like he definitely has, like a lot of stuff on his plate, but it’s like he moves from one highly focused area to another highly focused area, and then, like jumps around.
237 00:21:00.970 ⇒ 00:21:01.290 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
238 00:21:01.290 ⇒ 00:21:07.830 Patrick Trainer: And it’s like I noticed that, especially with, like the Loom videos that I sent like he won’t look at it for like a week.
239 00:21:07.880 ⇒ 00:21:10.499 Patrick Trainer: and then like when he looks at it.
240 00:21:11.246 ⇒ 00:21:19.013 Patrick Trainer: bam, bam, bam, bam, bam! And then it’s like ready assignments. And and and so
241 00:21:20.750 ⇒ 00:21:22.300 Patrick Trainer: yeah, I I think.
242 00:21:22.300 ⇒ 00:21:32.810 Uttam Kumaran: It’s a tough Cla. It’s a tough client, and that we have these 2. We have these 2 threads, and and also Ben doesn’t sell everything to Dan, because he knows he’s like, I don’t want to spook Dan and have Dan go crazy.
243 00:21:33.180 ⇒ 00:21:33.770 Patrick Trainer: Right to.
244 00:21:33.770 ⇒ 00:21:39.010 Uttam Kumaran: So we need to almost have, like somewhat separate but same relationships within the client.
245 00:21:39.180 ⇒ 00:21:44.889 Uttam Kumaran: But I I think the what wins always in here is like just barraging with communication.
246 00:21:44.890 ⇒ 00:21:45.460 Patrick Trainer: Right.
247 00:21:45.740 ⇒ 00:21:49.379 Uttam Kumaran: And then really being. And then I would say, the second thing is.
248 00:21:49.994 ⇒ 00:21:56.690 Uttam Kumaran: I know we’ve been working a lot on the manifest stuff and some more platform stuff. But I think also right now.
249 00:21:56.700 ⇒ 00:22:01.190 Uttam Kumaran: probably me and Ryan have the most context of the client in terms of like
250 00:22:01.220 ⇒ 00:22:07.490 Uttam Kumaran: all the details. I think if you start to get understanding of, okay, what is the world of like shipping data that they have
251 00:22:07.928 ⇒ 00:22:13.070 Uttam Kumaran: like refund data, it’s gonna help Jacob really, really like excel, cause.
252 00:22:13.070 ⇒ 00:22:13.570 Patrick Trainer: Right.
253 00:22:13.570 ⇒ 00:22:16.299 Uttam Kumaran: Looking into it. But he’s gonna be in the weeds on, like
254 00:22:16.310 ⇒ 00:22:23.379 Uttam Kumaran: really looking at a key problem and like going the distance. But we have a lot of his time to utilize where it’s like
255 00:22:23.490 ⇒ 00:22:31.549 Uttam Kumaran: you. Can you maybe be able to see the thread between, like what I think you see, on a daily basis versus a weekly basis versus like, you know. And so.
256 00:22:31.550 ⇒ 00:22:32.519 Patrick Trainer: Right. That’s what.
257 00:22:32.520 ⇒ 00:22:48.150 Uttam Kumaran: Right it’ll it’ll cause a lot of that is is ingrained in my head. But again, I I think it’s like it’s good to get your eyes on it, because now you’re going to be, you know, you’re kind of owning a lot of the data. This for them, which includes which I would say, includes the the evidence work.
258 00:22:48.150 ⇒ 00:22:54.449 Patrick Trainer: Right? Right? Yeah, no. That that makes sense. And I can definitely see that, too. Like when if
259 00:22:54.600 ⇒ 00:23:04.560 Patrick Trainer: Jacob or Ron, or whoever Thompson’s like, Hey, we’ve got this problem with shipping data like, what do you think? And for me it’s like, I’m not.
260 00:23:04.840 ⇒ 00:23:10.659 Patrick Trainer: I don’t know. Like, did it like, send me, send me what you got, and like I can like. I have a
261 00:23:10.750 ⇒ 00:23:13.379 Patrick Trainer: pretty like in intuition of like.
262 00:23:14.350 ⇒ 00:23:18.710 Patrick Trainer: just by judging by the structure of like what the query looks like
263 00:23:19.292 ⇒ 00:23:21.499 Patrick Trainer: but like the the
264 00:23:21.940 ⇒ 00:23:27.520 Patrick Trainer: the context of what the return data is actually saying, like, I don’t know if it’s right or wrong.
265 00:23:27.520 ⇒ 00:23:33.579 Uttam Kumaran: So that so that’s the thing is like I would prefer him to be in that position where he’s like. So he’s like out the ground.
266 00:23:33.830 ⇒ 00:23:38.130 Uttam Kumaran: but he has a question in mind, and he has, like these are the 3 tables you have here.
267 00:23:38.130 ⇒ 00:23:39.920 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, 5 questions, right? And like.
268 00:23:39.920 ⇒ 00:23:41.979 Uttam Kumaran: Anything you need there. But then to actually.
269 00:23:42.040 ⇒ 00:23:45.989 Uttam Kumaran: but that I don’t want to task him with also thinking about the questions.
270 00:23:45.990 ⇒ 00:23:48.749 Patrick Trainer: Figuring out what the questions are. Yeah.
271 00:23:48.750 ⇒ 00:23:51.999 Uttam Kumaran: Because Danny’s gonna kind of like. And I could tell that
272 00:23:52.480 ⇒ 00:23:55.849 Uttam Kumaran: people who are on the ground kind of doing this core work
273 00:23:56.150 ⇒ 00:24:01.320 Uttam Kumaran: what we can do best, as like senior folks is. Just give them all the stuff they need.
274 00:24:01.320 ⇒ 00:24:01.790 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, they call.
275 00:24:01.790 ⇒ 00:24:03.359 Uttam Kumaran: Rails and say, Run.
276 00:24:03.420 ⇒ 00:24:18.559 Uttam Kumaran: and then be like, Here we’re here. But you’re right, is like, I’m not gonna know every single nuance of every table that exists. But how the business works, I know, like, get shipped all the way through who are using. And so that sort of stuff is where I’m like pepper. Mute questions like, I have answers.
277 00:24:18.560 ⇒ 00:24:31.149 Patrick Trainer: Right? Right? Yeah. I like, I remember that in the kind of like beginning of my career, like I was a one man data team for a long time, and it’s like that zooming in. Then zooming out
278 00:24:31.470 ⇒ 00:24:35.880 Patrick Trainer: like that’s difficult to do. And like you really need kind of like that.
279 00:24:36.030 ⇒ 00:24:42.740 Patrick Trainer: The one that understands like what you said, the the ground level. But then there’s that forest from the trees like
280 00:24:42.860 ⇒ 00:24:51.040 Patrick Trainer: larger direction. And so like, that’s that’s definitely cause like you. You don’t want to like cognitively overload.
281 00:24:51.230 ⇒ 00:24:51.550 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
282 00:24:51.550 ⇒ 00:25:03.219 Patrick Trainer: The analyst or the person down on the ground. And it’s it’s kind of it’s like pair programming. It’s like you got one person driving. And then one person navigating and so, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
283 00:25:03.220 ⇒ 00:25:03.810 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
284 00:25:04.250 ⇒ 00:25:10.020 Uttam Kumaran: And so that so again, I think it’s like a lot of this is just culminating like a few different schemes. I think we can try.
285 00:25:10.040 ⇒ 00:25:16.221 Uttam Kumaran: But again, I think this week, if you can really hug that, I think it’s gonna go the distance for Dan.
286 00:25:17.480 ⇒ 00:25:19.100 Uttam Kumaran: So I think that’s the
287 00:25:19.400 ⇒ 00:25:22.154 Uttam Kumaran: big stuff. So I guess, like, in terms of
288 00:25:23.000 ⇒ 00:25:24.409 Uttam Kumaran: what’s in
289 00:25:25.290 ⇒ 00:25:30.209 Uttam Kumaran: but to the project, I guess we could just walk through and just clean this stuff up?
290 00:25:36.290 ⇒ 00:25:45.630 Uttam Kumaran: okay, great. So also, I don’t know. I don’t know. Maybe we should be, should we add like labels, for I guess we can even decide within pool parts how how we want to do labels, because
291 00:25:45.690 ⇒ 00:25:48.379 Uttam Kumaran: I just wanna have these 2 threads.
292 00:25:48.440 ⇒ 00:25:50.230 Uttam Kumaran: But I basically wanna be like.
293 00:25:50.910 ⇒ 00:25:54.990 Uttam Kumaran: have, like, at least something that says like this is like vis. This is related to the viz. Yeah.
294 00:25:54.990 ⇒ 00:25:59.273 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanna update, I wanna do that, too.
295 00:26:00.060 ⇒ 00:26:02.579 Patrick Trainer: And like, we can set
296 00:26:03.290 ⇒ 00:26:06.940 Patrick Trainer: labels at the organization level to.
297 00:26:06.940 ⇒ 00:26:07.710 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
298 00:26:08.233 ⇒ 00:26:09.280 Patrick Trainer: And so
299 00:26:09.310 ⇒ 00:26:26.229 Patrick Trainer: that way we can kind of have like like we don’t have like a vis label on pool parts, but not on Stella, because, like that’s gonna get super confusing and kind of frustrating but also like, even just from like a visual standpoint, like the colors are, gonna be different and like that would
300 00:26:26.800 ⇒ 00:26:28.789 Patrick Trainer: for me that would like
301 00:26:28.870 ⇒ 00:26:50.977 Patrick Trainer: be confusing. You’re driving me crazy. But if we can set this like at a like an org level and then scope it to a particular repo that like, that’s gonna go far. And then we can also like what’d be nice is like we can take these tickets and then, like, ask, we like, if we have a
302 00:26:51.460 ⇒ 00:27:21.084 Patrick Trainer: like. Here, I’m gonna draw on the screen like, if we have like another view over here, we can just like drag and drop things basically onto labels. And that’s and then we’ll just be able to see like, Okay, these are the these label things, these are these labeled things. And then we can pivot around and kind of like work that way. So I mean, like, we definitely like, Keep, keep all of this and all of these views, but just have, like literally different views of the same work.
303 00:27:21.390 ⇒ 00:27:25.889 Uttam Kumaran: Cause every cause, every single thing. I think we’re gonna have tickets that are in each part of the stack.
304 00:27:26.300 ⇒ 00:27:32.400 Uttam Kumaran: That’s also how I want to divvy up the work because there’s gonna be people like us who can work across
305 00:27:32.910 ⇒ 00:27:35.220 Uttam Kumaran: across functions. And there’s gonna be people who like
306 00:27:35.660 ⇒ 00:27:45.869 Uttam Kumaran: you just can’t who are expertise there. And so I just wanna make so that would be really clear to have, like, you know, clarity on. So we can do that.
307 00:27:45.870 ⇒ 00:27:46.920 Patrick Trainer: Cool. Yeah.
308 00:27:48.500 ⇒ 00:27:55.450 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? So I think the big things are okay. So this one was something about shipping. So I’m gonna move this here.
309 00:27:56.100 ⇒ 00:27:57.533 Uttam Kumaran: I guess, should we? Just
310 00:27:58.870 ⇒ 00:28:04.319 Uttam Kumaran: Should I try just adding one of the or I have these task types, too? But I guess we can do labels instead.
311 00:28:04.320 ⇒ 00:28:08.679 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, I, I like, I think, yeah, there, yeah, I think we add.
312 00:28:09.900 ⇒ 00:28:13.356 Patrick Trainer: yeah, labels there and then we can
313 00:28:14.760 ⇒ 00:28:33.550 Patrick Trainer: like, let you like later on, like either. Sometime this week I can go through and add that at the at the org level, and then the good thing, too, like with actions like depending on where it is in the in the repo, like, we can add labels like, have some automation in those labels.
314 00:28:34.240 ⇒ 00:28:35.560 Patrick Trainer: And then.
315 00:28:35.930 ⇒ 00:28:39.161 Patrick Trainer: kinda yeah, keep it. Keep it going like that.
316 00:28:40.490 ⇒ 00:28:45.410 Patrick Trainer: something else I noticed, too. Like, if you like, click on like enhancement
317 00:28:45.985 ⇒ 00:28:50.614 Patrick Trainer: I thought these you can control C control V across
318 00:28:51.540 ⇒ 00:28:55.339 Patrick Trainer: like, you can copy paste across cells.
319 00:28:55.350 ⇒ 00:28:57.600 Patrick Trainer: and you can highlight like multiples.
320 00:28:57.780 ⇒ 00:28:59.379 Patrick Trainer: And and
321 00:29:00.180 ⇒ 00:29:02.180 Uttam Kumaran: It’s my browser. Oh, there it is. Okay.
322 00:29:02.180 ⇒ 00:29:02.840 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.
323 00:29:03.250 ⇒ 00:29:06.190 Patrick Trainer: yeah, you can like, go across multiples and
324 00:29:06.220 ⇒ 00:29:11.439 Patrick Trainer: add them down and do that. We can add multiple labels, etc, etc.
325 00:29:11.440 ⇒ 00:29:12.389 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice.
326 00:29:14.040 ⇒ 00:29:15.449 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Cool.
327 00:29:15.450 ⇒ 00:29:17.710 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, let’s see if I can take these.
328 00:29:19.860 ⇒ 00:29:24.980 Uttam Kumaran: It’s gonna mark these ones as like enhancement. But we should, we could rename.
329 00:29:26.890 ⇒ 00:29:29.459 Patrick Trainer: Right? Yeah, it’s basically like.
330 00:29:31.020 ⇒ 00:29:32.979 Patrick Trainer: I almost see it. Like, kind of like.
331 00:29:33.440 ⇒ 00:29:41.460 Patrick Trainer: you’re, it’s like another level of commit messages. And it’s like we have. We have net, new features. We got fixes. We’ve got
332 00:29:41.830 ⇒ 00:29:47.169 Patrick Trainer: bugs, and like all all sorts of things. But then also, yes, like, is this
333 00:29:47.930 ⇒ 00:29:55.595 Patrick Trainer: back end work is this pipeline work? Is this modeling stuff? Is this like, there’s a lot of that in the
334 00:29:56.120 ⇒ 00:30:03.859 Patrick Trainer: in like the task type. But I think we’d move all of those task types into labels, because then you’re able to filter across.
335 00:30:03.860 ⇒ 00:30:05.450 Uttam Kumaran: Totally. Yeah, it’s an issue. Yeah.
336 00:30:05.450 ⇒ 00:30:09.049 Patrick Trainer: Right? Right? Yeah. Cause I think task types are, they’re pretty.
337 00:30:09.050 ⇒ 00:30:10.180 Uttam Kumaran: Seems to a project.
338 00:30:10.180 ⇒ 00:30:12.960 Patrick Trainer: Right? Yeah, it’s it’s limited to the thing.
339 00:30:13.510 ⇒ 00:30:17.410 Patrick Trainer: They’re to the to the repo or to the project
340 00:30:18.763 ⇒ 00:30:19.929 Patrick Trainer: and then.
341 00:30:20.970 ⇒ 00:30:25.939 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So I’m gonna make this, I’m just gonna tap. I’m gonna I’m gonna include 2 53.
342 00:30:29.290 ⇒ 00:30:32.820 Uttam Kumaran: And then I’m gonna include this 4.
343 00:30:33.860 ⇒ 00:30:35.323 Patrick Trainer: What was 47 ug.
344 00:30:37.890 ⇒ 00:30:39.059 Uttam Kumaran: fuck, was it?
345 00:30:43.853 ⇒ 00:30:46.819 Uttam Kumaran: It was I think.
346 00:30:47.040 ⇒ 00:30:48.760 Uttam Kumaran: What’s cold?
347 00:30:49.870 ⇒ 00:30:51.910 Uttam Kumaran: Let me know. Just to play this.
348 00:31:01.250 ⇒ 00:31:03.670 Uttam Kumaran: okay. 4, 66.
349 00:31:10.920 ⇒ 00:31:13.450 Uttam Kumaran: No. So I’m gonna just make these.
350 00:31:20.830 ⇒ 00:31:21.699 Patrick Trainer: Nice name.
351 00:31:28.846 ⇒ 00:31:29.959 Uttam Kumaran: and then.
352 00:31:40.130 ⇒ 00:31:45.110 Patrick Trainer: Oh, another thing we need to do, or or that I think you might have created a ticket already.
353 00:31:45.960 ⇒ 00:31:46.730 Patrick Trainer: Is
354 00:31:47.230 ⇒ 00:31:49.190 Patrick Trainer: kind of like restructuring
355 00:31:49.560 ⇒ 00:31:54.029 Patrick Trainer: the brain. Forge snowflake like the rolls.
356 00:31:54.030 ⇒ 00:31:54.620 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
357 00:31:54.620 ⇒ 00:32:01.679 Patrick Trainer: And all of that to kind of match like Stella, like one of the things that I kept running into was like
358 00:32:01.980 ⇒ 00:32:05.030 Patrick Trainer: the Dbt role will have more than
359 00:32:05.270 ⇒ 00:32:09.510 Patrick Trainer: like, or more access to some tables than like account. Admin.
360 00:32:09.600 ⇒ 00:32:12.260 Patrick Trainer: yeah. And like, yeah, there’s just.
361 00:32:12.260 ⇒ 00:32:13.340 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, thanks.
362 00:32:14.160 ⇒ 00:32:15.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Makes sense.
363 00:32:16.120 ⇒ 00:32:17.861 Uttam Kumaran: I think I created one.
364 00:32:18.210 ⇒ 00:32:22.629 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, I just. I remember that that was one of the times that I picked up
365 00:32:23.322 ⇒ 00:32:25.550 Patrick Trainer: my phone. And I saw that I was like, Yeah.
366 00:32:25.550 ⇒ 00:32:25.950 Uttam Kumaran: Though it.
367 00:32:25.950 ⇒ 00:32:26.909 Patrick Trainer: That makes sense.
368 00:32:32.640 ⇒ 00:32:38.560 Uttam Kumaran: okay, great. So I would say, like, that’s the big push. This weekend is this ticket this week? Is this ticket.
369 00:32:38.560 ⇒ 00:32:39.090 Patrick Trainer: Cool.
370 00:32:40.370 ⇒ 00:32:45.247 Uttam Kumaran: the only other. I guess we can hop to stand up. But the only other thing for Stella is like that azure thing.
371 00:32:45.690 ⇒ 00:32:46.350 Uttam Kumaran: But.
372 00:32:46.350 ⇒ 00:32:47.080 Patrick Trainer: Oh, yeah, right?
373 00:32:47.353 ⇒ 00:32:53.360 Uttam Kumaran: I’m even happy to help on that cause I want. This is like, I want this to really go well this week.
374 00:32:53.360 ⇒ 00:32:56.140 Patrick Trainer: Right? Yeah, cool. That sounds good.
375 00:32:56.450 ⇒ 00:32:58.360 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let’s hop to stand up
376 00:32:58.470 ⇒ 00:32:59.640 Uttam Kumaran: like alright time.
377 00:33:00.380 ⇒ 00:33:01.070 Uttam Kumaran: Bye.