Meeting Title: [Pool-Parts-to-Go]-Weekly-Sprint-Review Date: 2024-03-04 Meeting participants: Patrick Trainer, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:04:27.700 ⇒ 00:04:28.540 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, Pat.
2 00:04:28.650 ⇒ 00:04:29.690 Patrick Trainer: hey?
3 00:04:30.720 ⇒ 00:04:31.780 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah.
4 00:04:32.400 ⇒ 00:04:33.379 Patrick Trainer: How’s it going?
5 00:04:34.100 ⇒ 00:04:37.130 Uttam Kumaran: Good. So Monday.
6 00:04:37.850 ⇒ 00:04:38.810 Uttam Kumaran: how are you?
7 00:04:39.630 ⇒ 00:04:41.810 Patrick Trainer: Yep. Not doing good.
8 00:04:42.040 ⇒ 00:04:51.229 Patrick Trainer: Get in the situated here. but we’ve had a it’s been like raining all weekend. So it’s been kind of crappy.
9 00:04:51.370 ⇒ 00:04:52.410 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
10 00:04:53.140 ⇒ 00:04:56.940 Uttam Kumaran: I went to San Antonio
11 00:04:57.020 ⇒ 00:05:02.450 Patrick Trainer: yesterday for to go see the spurs game.
12 00:05:03.030 ⇒ 00:05:06.440 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, that was pretty chill, and then did they play?
13 00:05:06.690 ⇒ 00:05:11.300 Uttam Kumaran: They play the pacers, my friend. My friend knows one of the
14 00:05:12.020 ⇒ 00:05:13.950 Uttam Kumaran: The players on the pacers.
15 00:05:13.990 ⇒ 00:05:26.840 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice! Well, I get that, you guys free tickets. And then we chatted with him after the game, and he he score like 28 points like he went crazy.
16 00:05:27.320 ⇒ 00:05:34.650 Patrick Trainer: That said we’re not well. It was a month or 2 ago I went up to Dallas, visit my sister just like randomly.
17 00:05:34.920 ⇒ 00:05:36.020 Patrick Trainer: And
18 00:05:36.550 ⇒ 00:05:44.150 Patrick Trainer: the mavericks happen to be playing the pelicans. It was like perfect. It was like, I traveled with the team.
19 00:05:44.400 ⇒ 00:05:53.049 Patrick Trainer: Oh, yeah, that’s dope. Yeah, do you go? Have you been to like many pelicans games? Yeah, I go. I go like every now and then.
20 00:05:53.300 ⇒ 00:05:55.939 Patrick Trainer: It’s like they’re so they’re super easy to
21 00:05:56.220 ⇒ 00:05:58.239 Patrick Trainer: scoop up tickets like at the
22 00:05:58.630 ⇒ 00:06:01.879 Patrick Trainer: at the like last second or yeah, the day of.
23 00:06:02.030 ⇒ 00:06:04.270 Patrick Trainer: And like, I mean.
24 00:06:05.030 ⇒ 00:06:11.280 Patrick Trainer: there’s there is like a a a brief stint like last year, and whatnot like the pills were doing. Great
25 00:06:11.590 ⇒ 00:06:14.079 Patrick Trainer: and so tickets were.
26 00:06:14.460 ⇒ 00:06:15.380 Patrick Trainer: I mean
27 00:06:15.550 ⇒ 00:06:19.109 Patrick Trainer: 50 bucks. So, but like now, like they’ve
28 00:06:19.530 ⇒ 00:06:43.930 Patrick Trainer: they’re cheap as shit like you can. You can get in like day of in the nosebleeds, for like 10 bucks, it’s like at that point. It’s like. If you’re bored, have nothing to do some some crunchy chicken
29 00:06:44.000 ⇒ 00:06:49.530 Uttam Kumaran: because he was like, why don’t you? We’re playing in Dallas on Tuesday. Why don’t you guys come. And I was like.
30 00:06:49.660 ⇒ 00:07:15.239 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.
31 00:07:15.500 ⇒ 00:07:21.330 Patrick Trainer: yeah, Luca didn’t get much floor time when I went. Kyrie played a good bit
32 00:07:21.620 ⇒ 00:07:29.760 Patrick Trainer: but like seeing Luca and Zion go head to head was was pretty sweet.
33 00:07:30.320 ⇒ 00:07:31.580 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, so
34 00:07:33.850 ⇒ 00:07:35.540 Patrick Trainer: like that needs to get in shape.
35 00:07:35.600 ⇒ 00:07:40.000 Uttam Kumaran: I know it’s crazy. He’s so young.
36 00:07:40.230 ⇒ 00:07:44.249 Patrick Trainer: but I don’t know. I think I think this season he’s he’s doing.
37 00:07:44.560 ⇒ 00:07:46.199 Uttam Kumaran: He’s doing a lot
38 00:07:47.260 ⇒ 00:07:49.990 Uttam Kumaran: a lot better. So yeah, yeah, I agree.
39 00:07:51.390 ⇒ 00:07:53.380 Patrick Trainer: He’s yeah. I
40 00:07:53.810 ⇒ 00:07:58.400 Patrick Trainer: they have jokes that the like, the Creole food is just getting to them.
41 00:07:58.660 ⇒ 00:08:02.980 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, too many biscuits and gravy. Yeah.
42 00:08:04.480 ⇒ 00:08:08.509 Uttam Kumaran: cool. I guess we can get started. I think, Ryan said, he’s having some.
43 00:08:08.580 ⇒ 00:08:10.450 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, you said Internet trouble
44 00:08:10.730 ⇒ 00:08:12.880 Uttam Kumaran: zoom issues. But that’s alright.
45 00:08:13.440 ⇒ 00:08:22.950 Uttam Kumaran: I think, basically, the only thing is I saw. I just responded to Dan. And Ben pretty much said, Send a sandbox link.
46 00:08:24.150 ⇒ 00:08:28.699 Uttam Kumaran: So did they risk? Did they respond to?
47 00:08:29.100 ⇒ 00:08:33.470 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, just like 2 min ago? Oh, okay, cool
48 00:08:34.799 ⇒ 00:08:38.110 Uttam Kumaran: so maybe it’s best if you send a loom.
49 00:08:39.679 ⇒ 00:08:43.640 Uttam Kumaran: I was like. I know these guys, they don’t wanna get on meetings.
50 00:08:43.950 ⇒ 00:08:50.049 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t. I don’t blame them, which is like makes sense. But I want to make sure they have all the contacts.
51 00:08:50.730 ⇒ 00:08:57.279 Uttam Kumaran: what do you think about like maybe sending a loom overview of stuff.
52 00:08:57.720 ⇒ 00:08:59.499 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, yeah, I can do that.
53 00:09:02.790 ⇒ 00:09:05.990 Patrick Trainer: Just like I mean walking through like it would. Normally.
54 00:09:06.180 ⇒ 00:09:14.010 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I think the same thing. Basically just like, probably a little bit more about the whole process. So they have context of, like
55 00:09:14.640 ⇒ 00:09:19.010 Uttam Kumaran: a lot of the work that went in before the dashboard. And then I think.
56 00:09:19.430 ⇒ 00:09:25.619 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, maybe just if you have a couple of questions for them, you can ask right in that zoom in that loom.
57 00:09:25.800 ⇒ 00:09:28.100 Uttam Kumaran: but otherwise I think they’ll be pretty good with feedback.
58 00:09:28.440 ⇒ 00:09:32.649 Uttam Kumaran: I think the only thing is, if there’s any like.
59 00:09:33.460 ⇒ 00:09:41.979 Uttam Kumaran: maybe we can take a look right now, but I don’t know if there’s any like small like chart title tweaks or anything you wanted to make.
60 00:09:42.180 ⇒ 00:09:44.379 Uttam Kumaran: not before or
61 00:09:44.690 ⇒ 00:09:47.680 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, there’s definitely like title tweaks
62 00:09:47.740 ⇒ 00:09:52.750 Patrick Trainer: and whatnot cause I’ve I’ve left those kind of the same. Actually, I’ve I’ve
63 00:09:53.120 ⇒ 00:09:56.070 Patrick Trainer: didn’t touch those. The the titles
64 00:09:56.180 ⇒ 00:10:08.030 Patrick Trainer: I figured that would either be like, kind of like a mix between them. What they want to understand it asks, kind of like what their
65 00:10:08.450 ⇒ 00:10:12.229 Patrick Trainer: vernacular is. Yeah versus me, just like.
66 00:10:13.000 ⇒ 00:10:17.490 Patrick Trainer: really just kind of putting like organizational like tags
67 00:10:18.410 ⇒ 00:10:21.670 Patrick Trainer: on each. Each piece is kinda like, how
68 00:10:22.370 ⇒ 00:10:23.859 Patrick Trainer: how that makes sense.
69 00:10:24.230 ⇒ 00:10:28.199 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I think it’s. I think, apart from
70 00:10:28.350 ⇒ 00:10:37.980 Uttam Kumaran: just maybe explaining this section. Oh, yeah, that’s just the placeholder.
71 00:10:38.500 ⇒ 00:10:40.950 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I would say, like.
72 00:10:41.370 ⇒ 00:10:46.610 Uttam Kumaran: I think definitely, the highlight is your section and then talking about the filters.
73 00:10:46.750 ⇒ 00:10:49.869 Uttam Kumaran: cause they’re not here yet, so he’s not gonna be able to play with them.
74 00:10:49.910 ⇒ 00:10:52.030 Uttam Kumaran: But maybe you can talk about
75 00:10:52.220 ⇒ 00:11:02.160 Uttam Kumaran: what the strategy is gonna be for filtering everything to like certain time zones. And then I think, definitely like reading it like this way. right? And
76 00:11:02.340 ⇒ 00:11:11.909 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, feel free if you want to take this stuff and and move it. They like they wanted me to put this just so they see the date. But
77 00:11:12.050 ⇒ 00:11:18.820 Uttam Kumaran: you move whatever you want. I think what you mentioned about like having this on the TV, or something, I think, is a good point. Otherwise I think it looks
78 00:11:19.900 ⇒ 00:11:24.919 Uttam Kumaran: pretty good, just like direct their attention to where you need feedback cause they’ll
79 00:11:25.210 ⇒ 00:11:33.159 Uttam Kumaran: they’ll give commentary on everything a lot of we’ve already gone a ton of feedback on. So just be sure to say, like.
80 00:11:33.370 ⇒ 00:11:35.719 Hey, like, does this flow work?
81 00:11:35.930 ⇒ 00:11:39.959 Uttam Kumaran: And then what are what are next steps? And then.
82 00:11:40.310 ⇒ 00:11:46.000 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, basically, like the initial priorities like, finish this up and then talk about
83 00:11:46.340 ⇒ 00:11:49.710 Uttam Kumaran: the tier. 2 tier 3. You could even share some of those.
84 00:11:49.950 ⇒ 00:11:54.429 Uttam Kumaran: I would even suggest sharing that like that.
85 00:11:54.800 ⇒ 00:11:57.600 Uttam Kumaran: That list that you that you had worked on.
86 00:11:58.300 ⇒ 00:12:00.589 Patrick Trainer: Oh, yeah, the the additional
87 00:12:01.110 ⇒ 00:12:05.790 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, that’s in. I think that’s in the Github project, Github.
88 00:12:20.920 ⇒ 00:12:21.900 Uttam Kumaran: I think it was.
89 00:12:23.880 ⇒ 00:12:32.870 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I think it would be helpful just to
90 00:12:34.670 ⇒ 00:12:37.659 Uttam Kumaran: Put these somewhere like you can even copy this
91 00:12:38.180 ⇒ 00:12:40.170 Uttam Kumaran: and let me just put in Figma
92 00:12:41.650 ⇒ 00:12:51.429 Uttam Kumaran: that way. They can even comment on this. But yeah, I’ll I’ll you do whatever I would just say again, they’re gonna give them as much as they can, and to get feedback on.
93 00:12:51.460 ⇒ 00:12:52.530 Uttam Kumaran: and then
94 00:12:52.750 ⇒ 00:12:56.450 Uttam Kumaran: just direct their attention cause he’ll look at the whole thing.
95 00:12:57.340 ⇒ 00:12:58.540 Patrick Trainer: Okay, cool.
96 00:12:58.660 ⇒ 00:13:04.710 Patrick Trainer: Okay. Wait. Sandbox link. What is he talking about? A sandbox link? He, he basically just wants the link to this.
97 00:13:05.460 ⇒ 00:13:06.170 Patrick Trainer: Okay.
98 00:13:06.350 ⇒ 00:13:07.740 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.
99 00:13:08.420 ⇒ 00:13:10.540 Patrick Trainer: cool. I’ll call it the sandbox, then
100 00:13:10.850 ⇒ 00:13:11.750 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.
101 00:13:12.030 ⇒ 00:13:13.540 and then.
102 00:13:13.700 ⇒ 00:13:16.470 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, loom, you can pause and stuff. So
103 00:13:17.460 ⇒ 00:13:31.840 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. But II think sending a loom and then sending a quick note, I think is perfect. So you want to get that to him? That’d be cool. Yeah. And then, yeah, I’m gonna start working on some stuff for Ampla, and then I should be able to
104 00:13:31.970 ⇒ 00:13:33.959 Uttam Kumaran: just give you a little bit of a
105 00:13:34.540 ⇒ 00:13:38.110 Uttam Kumaran: send you some stuff this afternoon, and then maybe we can.
106 00:13:38.700 ⇒ 00:13:45.649 Uttam Kumaran: catch up after that. Just want to get
107 00:13:46.920 ⇒ 00:13:52.920 Patrick Trainer: And then there was what something else you mentioned.
108 00:13:53.660 ⇒ 00:13:55.899 Patrick Trainer: You talked about tag team and somethin.
109 00:13:57.400 ⇒ 00:14:05.980 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I wanted to try to keep this week on like real. I wanted maybe to do a day on like all the different database stuff right?
110 00:14:06.200 ⇒ 00:14:12.119 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe let’s plan that for like Thursday or something.
111 00:14:12.450 ⇒ 00:14:18.879 Uttam Kumaran: But I just want to spend like a half day and like, just try to set stuff up that way.
112 00:14:19.050 ⇒ 00:14:20.399 Patrick Trainer: yeah, I think that’s good.
113 00:14:21.350 ⇒ 00:14:27.349 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s real good. I’ll have. Yeah, I’ll get. If there’s anything we need to get set up. I’ll have it set up before that. But
114 00:14:29.260 ⇒ 00:14:30.440 Uttam Kumaran: and
115 00:14:35.440 ⇒ 00:14:37.690 Uttam Kumaran: okay, I think that’s it.
116 00:14:40.990 ⇒ 00:14:42.849 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I think that’s it.
117 00:14:46.140 ⇒ 00:14:52.819 Uttam Kumaran: Anything else? I should have some. Oh, II guess I’ll show you a little bit of sneak peek on some content stuff.
118 00:14:52.840 ⇒ 00:14:54.119 Patrick Trainer: Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah.
119 00:14:54.920 ⇒ 00:14:57.840 Patrick Trainer: Yeah. You’ve been working with your design. Friend.
120 00:14:58.300 ⇒ 00:14:59.970 Yeah,
121 00:15:00.180 ⇒ 00:15:03.080 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll I’ll show you her
122 00:15:04.160 ⇒ 00:15:16.790 Uttam Kumaran: So me and her worked together at logo she was a designer, and then she ended up leading
123 00:15:18.630 ⇒ 00:15:28.130 Uttam Kumaran: leading design as well. Got a Wi-fi. so bad today it was good.
124 00:15:29.320 ⇒ 00:15:32.809 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So she started her own design studio.
125 00:15:33.300 ⇒ 00:15:46.769 Uttam Kumaran: her name’s Ivana. Okay? And yeah, this is our site. But she’s she’s working on a couple of really, really cool projects. And
126 00:15:47.290 ⇒ 00:15:52.780 Uttam Kumaran: I was like, basically like she she left flow code, and I was like dude you should totally like
127 00:15:53.130 ⇒ 00:15:59.420 Uttam Kumaran: Do You should totally like do an agency, I think, like
128 00:15:59.660 ⇒ 00:16:22.349 Uttam Kumaran: she’s so fucking talented. It’s like it’s like really awesome. And I was like easily you’ll be able to do it. And I was like, even for the clients we work on. They typically need a lot of marketing help for decks stuff that I’m like, I’m gonna toss you everybody that we meet process. This is not loading, but show you our stuff because that’s in slack.
129 00:16:23.250 ⇒ 00:16:29.730 Uttam Kumaran: But assume that there’s a cool website. Yeah, yeah. The website looked good from.
130 00:16:31.070 ⇒ 00:16:31.730 oh.
131 00:16:38.020 ⇒ 00:16:42.659 Uttam Kumaran: so this is like an initial rendering of some of our like FAQ docs.
132 00:16:44.080 ⇒ 00:16:59.519 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, like. II don’t know if you have you. I don’t know if you’ve ever worked closely with designers, and like kind of like. more of a sprint. But basically. like the way I work with them is I give them. I give people just like ton of freedom, because I don’t know anything about
133 00:16:59.620 ⇒ 00:17:01.420 Uttam Kumaran: like I don’t have.
134 00:17:01.670 ⇒ 00:17:08.130 Uttam Kumaran: I have specific concrete feedback, but on color and stuff like that I’m like, here are
135 00:17:08.420 ⇒ 00:17:11.939 Uttam Kumaran: you? Go decide what looks good, and I take your word for it, because
136 00:17:12.270 ⇒ 00:17:26.189 Uttam Kumaran: I can tell you what, what’s that? Aesthetically pleasing. But it gets harder for me to decide like what’s better. But I pretty much am like, understand the science of copy sectioning titles font and like go wild.
137 00:17:26.210 ⇒ 00:17:30.790 Uttam Kumaran: So I think it’s really nice working with her, because she’ll give me a bunch of different options like
138 00:17:31.180 ⇒ 00:17:35.520 Uttam Kumaran: this one is mainly deciding on like kind of like color and like sectioning. So
139 00:17:35.540 ⇒ 00:17:53.229 Uttam Kumaran: basically, I’m Con, when I look at this, I’m kind of deciding with like what the one thing I did is I looked through like probably 15 other agency. And I downloaded the entire landing page. And I went through and like, basically, I want ours to really stick out. I want it to seem like we are
140 00:17:53.460 ⇒ 00:17:55.980 Uttam Kumaran: like very design forward.
141 00:17:56.100 ⇒ 00:18:00.369 Uttam Kumaran: like, we’re very, very transparent in what we do. But
142 00:18:00.640 ⇒ 00:18:23.309 Uttam Kumaran: also it doesn’t come across like, we’re like some boomer like Mckinsey type like boring. I want to really highlight the people we work for. So everything I want to really have a level of sharpness right? Comes across that, like, you know we are. We’re pretty legit. So on this thing. II think I’m decided between, like, usually like this one. And this one I like, I like the bottom left
143 00:18:23.390 ⇒ 00:18:31.679 Uttam Kumaran: bottom left. Yeah, I’d like, I like, these sections are nice. Cause it directs you to each thing. Just kind of like a wall of text.
144 00:18:31.840 ⇒ 00:18:37.439 Patrick Trainer: Right? Yeah, that’s that’s exactly what I was thinking. It’s like it that those are more
145 00:18:37.780 ⇒ 00:18:40.460 Patrick Trainer: delineated and kind of like
146 00:18:40.820 ⇒ 00:18:43.000 Patrick Trainer: like discrete
147 00:18:43.070 ⇒ 00:18:48.440 Patrick Trainer: pieces rather than like big, yeah, big wall of text. And I get intimidating.
148 00:18:48.620 ⇒ 00:18:51.419 Uttam Kumaran: And the other thing we’re working on is like fonts.
149 00:18:52.770 ⇒ 00:19:01.120 Uttam Kumaran: This one is a little bit more esoteric. And basically, I’m like, kind of just thinking about like what I think looks good. And but the nice thing about
150 00:19:01.490 ⇒ 00:19:18.469 Uttam Kumaran: me is that I’m like, we’re only going to use these spots across all content. Yeah, you make a play. We’ll have this one. Any of our project documents will have this font. So I’m kinda like, I’m like, yeah, let’s decide on something that’s like scalable to everything right? One cohesive like upon a brand identity.
151 00:19:18.980 ⇒ 00:19:23.299 Uttam Kumaran: I kinda told her, I like this one
152 00:19:24.250 ⇒ 00:19:25.440 Uttam Kumaran: again, like.
153 00:19:25.710 ⇒ 00:19:26.880 Patrick Trainer: okay, yeah.
154 00:19:27.650 ⇒ 00:19:32.809 Uttam Kumaran: I think this is a little bit less like important. But basically, I just want something that is a little bit
155 00:19:33.240 ⇒ 00:19:46.929 Uttam Kumaran: like kind of looks professional, but not too artsy. and then the other thing we worked on is kind of little bit of like we worked on some. Also, some like darker versions.
156 00:19:47.120 ⇒ 00:19:54.060 Uttam Kumaran: I basically like, I like this. But I think it’s like, just pretty black. Yeah,
157 00:19:55.530 ⇒ 00:20:09.919 Uttam Kumaran: But also, like what I’m doing is like, I’m like, let’s arrive on a footer. Let’s arrive like a header style sub headers. I really like this? Yeah. so she has all the content. We’re basically just deciding on
158 00:20:10.190 ⇒ 00:20:13.430 Uttam Kumaran: like general colors and themes like a palette. And then
159 00:20:13.600 ⇒ 00:20:21.280 Uttam Kumaran: hopefully, we have a couple of options once.
160 00:20:21.540 ⇒ 00:20:28.310 Uttam Kumaran: No. The site right now is like orange and yellow. I like.
161 00:20:28.940 ⇒ 00:20:48.019 Uttam Kumaran: I probably spent 2% of my time deciding anything related to the company branding name. Basically it was there just because it’s necessary. So I, which is, I think, good for a designer, because I’m basically like, I’m not married to anything.
162 00:20:48.070 ⇒ 00:20:50.730 Uttam Kumaran: I like green and black
163 00:20:51.100 ⇒ 00:20:58.580 Uttam Kumaran: if we can make it that I like that cause. That’s those are my personal favorite. I guess it like II don’t know. I guess.
164 00:20:58.780 ⇒ 00:21:01.550 Uttam Kumaran: Like, if that’s any sort of like
165 00:21:01.900 ⇒ 00:21:11.609 Uttam Kumaran: puts in a good direction. Then yeah, I like but mainly, II learned like, I don’t care. I just needed to get results.
166 00:21:11.780 ⇒ 00:21:19.189 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m basically like, Hey, here’s like our goals. Here’s typically do stuff. Here’s how we communicate. Here’s the people we talk to.
167 00:21:19.250 ⇒ 00:21:20.899 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just trying to translate
168 00:21:20.940 ⇒ 00:21:39.290 Uttam Kumaran: as much information and convince people to get on the meeting with us. And then, of course, I want us to. I want us to come across like we’re at a thousand person agency, right? Right? You know. So II think these are avenues where we can differentiate ourselves from
169 00:21:39.580 ⇒ 00:21:44.089 Uttam Kumaran: other people in our industry, because a lot of people in our industry don’t spend any time
170 00:21:44.120 ⇒ 00:22:04.190 Uttam Kumaran: making these materials number one and 2, making them look good and like consumable. And these are the areas where I think we win in. And we, we’re gonna lose in areas where we can throw like 100 people at something. Or we have like, we have like 50 years in the industry. But we will win on these things where people
171 00:22:04.230 ⇒ 00:22:08.669 Uttam Kumaran: in our industry. Yeah.
172 00:22:09.120 ⇒ 00:22:11.380 Uttam Kumaran: so that’s basically like.