Meeting Title: Operations Leads Weekly Date: 2025-09-29 Meeting participants: Rico Rejoso, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:10:32.430 ⇒ 00:10:33.780 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, Erica.
2 00:10:33.930 ⇒ 00:10:35.270 Rico Rejoso: Hi, Tom, how are you?
3 00:10:35.740 ⇒ 00:10:37.139 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, good, how are you?
4 00:10:37.140 ⇒ 00:10:39.560 Rico Rejoso: Great, I’m doing good, thank you for asking.
5 00:10:39.730 ⇒ 00:10:41.240 Rico Rejoso: Just share my screen.
6 00:10:56.320 ⇒ 00:11:05.410 Rico Rejoso: Alright, so, to get started, here are our key initiatives or updates, from the last two weeks.
7 00:11:05.930 ⇒ 00:11:13.030 Rico Rejoso: There haven’t been any changes on the team contract so far, and for…
8 00:11:13.280 ⇒ 00:11:22.080 Rico Rejoso: the contract that needs your review. Well, I guess we’re just waiting for Maria to sign. Robert followed up last week, haven’t gotten a response yet.
9 00:11:22.680 ⇒ 00:11:27.270 Rico Rejoso: And… Also waiting for, Ellie.
10 00:11:27.370 ⇒ 00:11:44.959 Rico Rejoso: to sign a contract, which Allison did also, I mean, update from Allison last week was she was routing the, papers to, the representative, or the one who needs to sign it, and client contract for each week.
11 00:11:47.110 ⇒ 00:11:49.250 Rico Rejoso: No changes. What we…
12 00:11:51.000 ⇒ 00:11:56.379 Rico Rejoso: I mean, we did add, or we have new clients, which are remote and hype access.
13 00:11:56.560 ⇒ 00:12:00.329 Rico Rejoso: We can review the financials later on as we go through it.
14 00:12:02.040 ⇒ 00:12:03.659 Uttam Kumaran: Okay,
15 00:12:05.620 ⇒ 00:12:13.399 Uttam Kumaran: I think one, contract update that I want to propose is that we offer a discount to…
16 00:12:13.760 ⇒ 00:12:16.669 Uttam Kumaran: For early payments.
17 00:12:17.970 ⇒ 00:12:20.610 Uttam Kumaran: Is this something that you can work with?
18 00:12:21.110 ⇒ 00:12:23.459 Uttam Kumaran: The finance team on?
19 00:12:23.650 ⇒ 00:12:30.230 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Basically, for clients that pay us early, Like, let’s say within…
20 00:12:31.820 ⇒ 00:12:34.500 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, within 5 days of invoice?
21 00:12:35.250 ⇒ 00:12:38.420 Uttam Kumaran: We can give them a discount on their next invoice.
22 00:12:39.840 ⇒ 00:12:40.710 Rico Rejoso: Oh, okay.
23 00:12:43.450 ⇒ 00:12:46.020 Uttam Kumaran: Is that something that you can work on with finance team?
24 00:12:46.320 ⇒ 00:12:51.630 Rico Rejoso: Yes, I can draft, like, And… what do you,
25 00:12:53.310 ⇒ 00:12:56.870 Rico Rejoso: Should be… should it be, like, a contract or an email to notify them?
26 00:12:58.040 ⇒ 00:13:04.210 Uttam Kumaran: Well, basically, it would be in the contract, and then we can start to include that in our invoices.
27 00:13:04.970 ⇒ 00:13:05.710 Rico Rejoso: Okay
28 00:13:08.300 ⇒ 00:13:16.800 Rico Rejoso: I’ll confirm with Megan on how we can set this up as well, and provide a few drafts for her to review, and we’ll get back to you afterwards. Would that work?
29 00:13:18.280 ⇒ 00:13:19.400 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, that’s fine.
30 00:13:22.160 ⇒ 00:13:24.830 Rico Rejoso: Oh, you mentioned 20%, is that right? Oh, what was it?
31 00:13:25.650 ⇒ 00:13:27.760 Uttam Kumaran: I said, like, like, 2%.
32 00:13:27.760 ⇒ 00:13:29.510 Rico Rejoso: 2%, my bad, sorry.
33 00:13:30.000 ⇒ 00:13:31.200 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, you’re fine.
34 00:13:37.830 ⇒ 00:13:47.449 Rico Rejoso: Already. I’ll get this after this meeting, and, Senate to Finance may not include it on the meeting later, but we’ll have to confirm first after we draft everything, okay?
35 00:13:48.480 ⇒ 00:13:49.130 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
36 00:13:49.130 ⇒ 00:13:54.190 Rico Rejoso: Alrighty. So, so this is what…
37 00:13:54.240 ⇒ 00:14:06.500 Rico Rejoso: part of it as well, I think. And for the HR people, we don’t have any interviews scheduled yet. I know you mentioned earlier that we will be opening some few positions, for…
38 00:14:06.500 ⇒ 00:14:18.610 Rico Rejoso: I mean, open positions. We’re still finalizing the SOP form, just so you know, I have received it, I haven’t reviewed it yet, but I’ll provide it on the Slack conversation we had, so you can also, take a look at it afterwards.
39 00:14:19.040 ⇒ 00:14:19.630 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
40 00:14:19.630 ⇒ 00:14:20.370 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
41 00:14:20.370 ⇒ 00:14:20.970 Rico Rejoso: Alrighty.
42 00:14:21.390 ⇒ 00:14:30.899 Rico Rejoso: And for finance… One was to get EV, E-Verify. This is coming from Amber’s request.
43 00:14:30.900 ⇒ 00:14:31.710 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
44 00:14:33.350 ⇒ 00:14:34.020 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
45 00:14:34.020 ⇒ 00:14:38.370 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s talk about this. Yeah, this is something, like, I was wondering if you can also work with the finance team.
46 00:14:39.010 ⇒ 00:14:40.600 Uttam Kumaran: on executing.
47 00:14:43.430 ⇒ 00:14:47.350 Uttam Kumaran: I’m not 100% sure of the details, but I want to make sure that they can…
48 00:14:50.160 ⇒ 00:14:51.170 Uttam Kumaran: Help with us.
49 00:14:53.210 ⇒ 00:14:59.780 Rico Rejoso: I may have to look at the steps that we need to take to get this done, since I’m not aware of it as well, before I…
50 00:15:01.080 ⇒ 00:15:10.600 Rico Rejoso: proceed with, asking Megan, or I also messaged Megan to get his, to get her idea regarding this one, okay, so we could come up with a solution for this.
51 00:15:11.400 ⇒ 00:15:12.050 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
52 00:15:14.770 ⇒ 00:15:17.200 Rico Rejoso: So I’ll set up the update for it.
53 00:15:17.320 ⇒ 00:15:19.489 Rico Rejoso: Let’s say by Wednesday.
54 00:15:19.650 ⇒ 00:15:21.590 Rico Rejoso: Once I get everything, done.
55 00:15:24.670 ⇒ 00:15:32.040 Rico Rejoso: Right? And, update on the finance model spreadsheet for client updates, and… Changes in payroll.
56 00:15:32.710 ⇒ 00:15:35.519 Rico Rejoso: For payroll, we don’t have any updates yet.
57 00:15:36.080 ⇒ 00:15:42.369 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I updated some of this yesterday, so can we… can we go ahead and make sure that we have
58 00:15:42.920 ⇒ 00:15:45.869 Uttam Kumaran: If you go… if you go back to the… the contracts…
59 00:15:46.170 ⇒ 00:15:46.800 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
60 00:15:48.600 ⇒ 00:15:55.959 Uttam Kumaran: I just want to make sure that all of the fields are up-to-date for everything that’s active. So… looks like it should be the case, right? So…
61 00:15:58.200 ⇒ 00:16:05.960 Uttam Kumaran: fixed rate, for example, Remo is actually, okay, 5K, per month.
62 00:16:12.550 ⇒ 00:16:13.490 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
63 00:16:14.590 ⇒ 00:16:17.200 Uttam Kumaran: Insomnia, okay, okay, great.
64 00:16:19.140 ⇒ 00:16:19.910 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
65 00:16:20.640 ⇒ 00:16:25.870 Uttam Kumaran: And then for… Alright.
66 00:16:34.330 ⇒ 00:16:38.210 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. This looks pretty good to me, right? What do you think?
67 00:16:39.040 ⇒ 00:16:43.139 Uttam Kumaran: Can we put the dates for 16 and 17 in there as well?
68 00:16:47.530 ⇒ 00:16:49.040 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, gross, yeah.
69 00:16:50.370 ⇒ 00:16:54.970 Rico Rejoso: HomePro, let me check with this one.
70 00:16:55.200 ⇒ 00:16:56.500 Uttam Kumaran: Sorry, I forgot about it.
71 00:17:00.630 ⇒ 00:17:05.730 Rico Rejoso: For default, contract supposedly will start for October 1st.
72 00:17:07.660 ⇒ 00:17:11.199 Rico Rejoso: L, for Andy… We have been…
73 00:17:11.420 ⇒ 00:17:15.840 Rico Rejoso: Finalized, but supposedly it’s for us. Contract should start today.
74 00:17:17.470 ⇒ 00:17:20.579 Rico Rejoso: HomePro, I can take a look at for HomePro, yeah.
75 00:17:22.569 ⇒ 00:17:23.239 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
76 00:17:24.470 ⇒ 00:17:25.770 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, I believe we haven’t…
77 00:17:26.470 ⇒ 00:17:30.269 Rico Rejoso: come up with a contract with HomePro. Now, let me know, I can create one.
78 00:17:32.820 ⇒ 00:17:39.740 Uttam Kumaran: Boom, bro, yeah, I agree. Yeah. Okay, that’s fine. So yeah, for Ellie, let’s put the same… the start date.
79 00:17:40.460 ⇒ 00:17:42.989 Uttam Kumaran: And then we can just make sure that all of these are…
80 00:18:10.050 ⇒ 00:18:12.310 Uttam Kumaran: Okay,
81 00:18:35.500 ⇒ 00:18:38.020 Uttam Kumaran: One thing I’m gonna add here is,
82 00:18:43.720 ⇒ 00:18:45.450 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just a HubSpot deal.
83 00:18:52.670 ⇒ 00:18:56.000 Uttam Kumaran: And then sales can manage that. Okay, perfect.
84 00:18:59.060 ⇒ 00:19:03.049 Rico Rejoso: Alright, I think we’re good with the, client spreadsheet?
85 00:19:03.050 ⇒ 00:19:05.370 Uttam Kumaran: And let’s take a look at any payroll changes.
86 00:19:18.610 ⇒ 00:19:20.280 Uttam Kumaran: Any changes, you think?
87 00:19:22.540 ⇒ 00:19:27.209 Rico Rejoso: none so far aside from Holly, from adding Holly on this…
88 00:19:27.390 ⇒ 00:19:29.440 Rico Rejoso: One, I think everyone looks good.
89 00:19:31.360 ⇒ 00:19:31.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
90 00:19:41.650 ⇒ 00:19:47.529 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, the only change for me is we just got notified from Justina.
91 00:19:47.530 ⇒ 00:19:48.070 Rico Rejoso: Huh.
92 00:19:48.070 ⇒ 00:19:50.230 Uttam Kumaran: That she is going to be leaving.
93 00:19:50.690 ⇒ 00:19:53.879 Uttam Kumaran: Kind of unexpected, she had a personal thing come up.
94 00:19:54.990 ⇒ 00:19:57.770 Uttam Kumaran: Which is kind of brutal, but
95 00:19:58.820 ⇒ 00:20:01.460 Uttam Kumaran: I think I want to set her…
96 00:20:01.690 ⇒ 00:20:04.100 Uttam Kumaran: Final date as the end of next week.
97 00:20:06.880 ⇒ 00:20:10.710 Uttam Kumaran: Alright. And then we can prepare her agreements.
98 00:20:18.370 ⇒ 00:20:19.050 Rico Rejoso: I think one.
99 00:20:19.050 ⇒ 00:20:19.990 Uttam Kumaran: And then…
100 00:20:20.440 ⇒ 00:20:26.900 Rico Rejoso: I need… I’m also requesting an SOP from her in regards to the process that we’re working, so we can hand it off.
101 00:20:27.160 ⇒ 00:20:29.739 Rico Rejoso: to the next, because I think that’s one thing.
102 00:20:29.740 ⇒ 00:20:30.650 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
103 00:20:30.650 ⇒ 00:20:32.199 Rico Rejoso: We haven’t come up with yet.
104 00:20:32.810 ⇒ 00:20:36.960 Uttam Kumaran: I really want her to work on as many of those SLPs as possible before she leaves.
105 00:20:37.570 ⇒ 00:20:47.139 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, I requested that last week for both marketing and sales. Marketing has been submitting some of their SOPs. I’m waiting for Justina, but I’ll iterate again after this meeting.
106 00:20:48.030 ⇒ 00:20:48.730 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
107 00:20:52.340 ⇒ 00:20:54.139 Rico Rejoso: I’m gonna set this one to…
108 00:20:56.560 ⇒ 00:20:57.220 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
109 00:21:00.990 ⇒ 00:21:03.409 Rico Rejoso: Other than that, I think we’re good. Any changes?
110 00:21:03.560 ⇒ 00:21:04.449 Rico Rejoso: On your end?
111 00:21:05.080 ⇒ 00:21:10.030 Uttam Kumaran: No, nothing on my end.
112 00:21:10.330 ⇒ 00:21:10.920 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
113 00:21:15.120 ⇒ 00:21:17.170 Uttam Kumaran: And then I downgraded GitHub.
114 00:21:17.170 ⇒ 00:21:17.730 Rico Rejoso: Yep.
115 00:21:18.800 ⇒ 00:21:21.879 Rico Rejoso: It’s not on Enterprise now, right? It’s…
116 00:21:22.960 ⇒ 00:21:29.629 Rico Rejoso: Not sure. Actually, I’m not really one with GitHub, I’m not… I haven’t used it much. I don’t know how to use it.
117 00:21:29.770 ⇒ 00:21:31.699 Rico Rejoso: But yeah, thank you for downgrading it.
118 00:21:33.290 ⇒ 00:21:39.720 Rico Rejoso: Okay, other than that, I think, a few of the action items here, that we have… we just had this.
119 00:21:43.240 ⇒ 00:21:45.590 Rico Rejoso: is… to…
120 00:21:49.430 ⇒ 00:21:53.469 Rico Rejoso: a, his phone.
121 00:21:55.620 ⇒ 00:21:56.810 Rico Rejoso: Science concept.
122 00:22:05.960 ⇒ 00:22:06.640 Rico Rejoso: So…
123 00:22:12.280 ⇒ 00:22:18.980 Rico Rejoso: And another one would be to… process.
124 00:22:19.290 ⇒ 00:22:20.420 Rico Rejoso: E-Verify.
125 00:22:35.500 ⇒ 00:22:36.650 Rico Rejoso: Good at this.
126 00:22:42.620 ⇒ 00:22:43.330 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
127 00:22:43.740 ⇒ 00:22:52.029 Rico Rejoso: Right, let’s just sit on the operations side, swirl… questions so far,
128 00:22:56.760 ⇒ 00:22:59.090 Rico Rejoso: I’m just checking some of our weights here.
129 00:23:01.490 ⇒ 00:23:10.679 Rico Rejoso: Okay, I’m good. On the operations side, nothing, nothing, nothing else. I’m still focusing on the PMing, the internal stuff, so…
130 00:23:10.870 ⇒ 00:23:12.150 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, maybe we’ll look at this.
131 00:23:12.150 ⇒ 00:23:14.200 Rico Rejoso: Or during the finance meeting later.
132 00:23:15.230 ⇒ 00:23:23.600 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think on the recruiting side, We’re gonna kick off, another.
133 00:23:23.600 ⇒ 00:23:26.620 Rico Rejoso: Round of people to hire for…
134 00:23:26.670 ⇒ 00:23:28.710 Uttam Kumaran: product analytics.
135 00:23:28.880 ⇒ 00:23:29.470 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
136 00:23:34.250 ⇒ 00:23:38.760 Uttam Kumaran: So I want to make sure that if we need to put up a job post for that, we can.
137 00:23:40.350 ⇒ 00:23:42.919 Rico Rejoso: Yep, we have all the details for it.
138 00:23:43.420 ⇒ 00:23:44.870 Rico Rejoso: For the position.
139 00:23:44.980 ⇒ 00:23:45.840 Rico Rejoso: I think we just have to.
140 00:23:45.840 ⇒ 00:23:46.680 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.
141 00:23:46.680 ⇒ 00:23:50.689 Rico Rejoso: I’m gonna check the website if we have it, or not, or if we can add it now.
142 00:23:51.290 ⇒ 00:23:51.930 Rico Rejoso: Where’s…
143 00:23:51.930 ⇒ 00:23:53.160 Uttam Kumaran: Can you also…
144 00:23:53.650 ⇒ 00:23:56.269 Rico Rejoso: That’s fine, anytime this week is fine.
145 00:23:56.650 ⇒ 00:23:57.190 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
146 00:23:58.300 ⇒ 00:23:59.349 Rico Rejoso: Very quickly, please.
147 00:24:01.000 ⇒ 00:24:02.990 Uttam Kumaran: And then, can you also,
148 00:24:04.850 ⇒ 00:24:11.500 Uttam Kumaran: Can you also, see if you can get Justina’s feedback on the sales coordinator job description?
149 00:24:12.940 ⇒ 00:24:17.889 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, I gave it to her when I requested the SOP.
150 00:24:18.020 ⇒ 00:24:23.739 Rico Rejoso: So she used it basically… but I’ll get her feedback, if that’s okay, or if we should add anything else on the description.
151 00:24:23.740 ⇒ 00:24:24.390 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
152 00:24:24.540 ⇒ 00:24:33.480 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that would be really, really helpful. If you want, you could do that in a message between me and her, or wherever you’re gonna do that, that’s totally fine.
153 00:24:34.230 ⇒ 00:24:37.459 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, maybe we can have it on a sales channel, so you can have a…
154 00:24:38.100 ⇒ 00:24:40.900 Rico Rejoso: Should we? Or do you want me to just create a group chat?
155 00:24:42.390 ⇒ 00:24:46.439 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, maybe, in a group chat would be great.
156 00:24:46.760 ⇒ 00:24:55.810 Rico Rejoso: Okay, no worries. I’ll have it done. And should we open the sales coordinator position as well on the website? I know we had, like, a candidate from Blue People for it.
157 00:24:59.580 ⇒ 00:25:06.199 Uttam Kumaran: We do have the candidate from Blue People. I would like that person to meet with Justina.
158 00:25:08.150 ⇒ 00:25:11.639 Rico Rejoso: Confirm for tomorrow at 11 a.m. Central Time.
159 00:25:11.870 ⇒ 00:25:13.990 Rico Rejoso: I’ll add to it, I just…
160 00:25:14.200 ⇒ 00:25:19.269 Rico Rejoso: I mean, place… a visa placeholder for the meantime, but I’ll add it, I’ll finalize the meeting for tomorrow.
161 00:25:22.890 ⇒ 00:25:23.450 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
162 00:25:23.610 ⇒ 00:25:30.730 Rico Rejoso: All right, that’s it for me. I’ll create a group chat, and maybe we can discuss some of the questions for the agenda tomorrow for the interview with blue people, okay?
163 00:25:31.330 ⇒ 00:25:33.710 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, how’s everything else going on your side?
164 00:25:35.660 ⇒ 00:25:36.510 Uttam Kumaran: How do you feel?
165 00:25:36.710 ⇒ 00:25:41.010 Rico Rejoso: I’m still trying to absorb more of the PM info.
166 00:25:41.200 ⇒ 00:25:56.190 Rico Rejoso: I just say it’s very tremendous when it comes to providing all the instruction. I think it’s just me absorbing everything and just putting it in play for the PMS. I’m also trying to explore other stuff that I think could work on our end that would benefit both the team and I.
167 00:25:56.260 ⇒ 00:26:04.429 Rico Rejoso: On PMing it. So, I don’t know, I think there’s a learning curve for it, but hopefully I get it done ASAP. I want to take.
168 00:26:04.430 ⇒ 00:26:10.959 Uttam Kumaran: How do you feel… how do you feel on your hours? Like, kind of like, what… how many… what’s… what’s your hours been like? How do you feel?
169 00:26:13.010 ⇒ 00:26:14.290 Rico Rejoso: I mean,
170 00:26:14.580 ⇒ 00:26:32.099 Rico Rejoso: if there are, like, requests… I usually typically work 8 hours, like, from 9 to 6 Eastern, but if there are, like, any urgent requests past 6, I still try to work on it. I mean, I’m still available by that time. I’m just, you know, I had just… I just have my Slack open on my computer, and just…
171 00:26:32.190 ⇒ 00:26:35.700 Rico Rejoso: work on it if I saw anything that came up after 6.
172 00:26:35.850 ⇒ 00:26:42.029 Rico Rejoso: But around 9am, I have, like, all the capacity to work on other stuff as well, as soon as we end the,
173 00:26:43.300 ⇒ 00:26:45.269 Rico Rejoso: stand up for the AI team.
174 00:26:46.020 ⇒ 00:26:48.310 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I guess, like,
175 00:26:49.780 ⇒ 00:27:03.650 Uttam Kumaran: What do you think, like, I know I talked to you, like, maybe a month ago or so, and you showed a lot of interest in the PM side of things, so I want to make sure that if you’re still interested there, I want to give you time there. I think probably my biggest thing is maybe I should go get someone else
176 00:27:03.780 ⇒ 00:27:08.100 Uttam Kumaran: to assist in operations, and then the three of us work on operations. You can…
177 00:27:08.220 ⇒ 00:27:12.179 Uttam Kumaran: Be more of a leader on operations instead of, like, also executing.
178 00:27:13.290 ⇒ 00:27:27.439 Rico Rejoso: We can, but for now, I think there’s not much that is going on on the operations side. I mean, everything is, like, intertwined, right? So, on operations, we just do, like, a few legal or document stuff, and I don’t think…
179 00:27:27.440 ⇒ 00:27:32.370 Uttam Kumaran: I guess that’s why… I guess my point would be that that way you can PM operations versus…
180 00:27:32.770 ⇒ 00:27:33.250 Rico Rejoso: Like.
181 00:27:33.250 ⇒ 00:27:47.540 Uttam Kumaran: you can truly PM all of the internal versus also executing on the operations side, right? Because, for example, on sales, you’re not… for operations and recruiting, you’re still helping, but for sales, marketing… for sales, marketing.
182 00:27:47.590 ⇒ 00:28:02.790 Uttam Kumaran: AI, you’re not executing, right? So, I guess my… and this doesn’t, like, have to be this week, but I guess I’m just interested to hear, like, okay, you’re… you still want to go towards more project management, less execution, and then I can get you
183 00:28:03.210 ⇒ 00:28:06.570 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll get you more… I’ll get you people to do the execution, you know?
184 00:28:10.750 ⇒ 00:28:25.280 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, we can. I’ll definitely go for it, I mean, if it’s something that could help me, and at the same time, widen our operation… on the operations side, but I think not for now. I don’t want this… I’m not trying to, you know.
185 00:28:25.510 ⇒ 00:28:29.269 Rico Rejoso: do everything, but it’s just that I believe we can still save.
186 00:28:29.690 ⇒ 00:28:35.660 Rico Rejoso: you know, some of it for the possession, so I… I mean, I can still do it. I have still some vacant time to do it.
187 00:28:36.080 ⇒ 00:28:45.860 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, that’s just what I wanted to hear, like, I kind of just want to know that you’re not, like, working 60, 70 hours and getting jammed, that you’re still, like, feel good about your time.
188 00:28:46.130 ⇒ 00:29:01.130 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, no worries. The first week is kind of messed up for me and Jam with all the meetings, you know, adjusting and stuff, but as soon as I get the hang of it, I have created an SOP on myself on how I should manage my time and everything, and make sure I stay within 8 hours, not go over time, you know.
189 00:29:01.720 ⇒ 00:29:08.230 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and actually, I don’t, like, see, this is the thing, I would rather you go overtime and repay for it than to bring on another person.
190 00:29:08.530 ⇒ 00:29:11.679 Uttam Kumaran: So if you’re interested in working more than 40,
191 00:29:11.840 ⇒ 00:29:22.499 Uttam Kumaran: again, like, this is an option. You can bill, like, you can just let me know and I can approve it, but this is what I’m saying, is like, I would rather you do that than going and getting more people.
192 00:29:25.330 ⇒ 00:29:36.179 Rico Rejoso: I’ll let you know, like, if we scale up more… I know I’m excited getting… us getting more clients, so for now we can stick with it, but we can revisit this on a latter time, I guess.
193 00:29:36.750 ⇒ 00:29:54.079 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay. So then I’m just gonna… yeah, I’m gonna… I’m gonna consider just, like, me and you both running recruiting and operations together. I think I’m gonna still try to… because things are… I think the kind of the point I’m making is we’re not doing everything on the project management side, like…
194 00:29:54.210 ⇒ 00:30:02.509 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s gonna take more time. Like, imagine you have to run planning, grooming, Monday, Fridays for all of your projects.
195 00:30:02.740 ⇒ 00:30:04.860 Uttam Kumaran: like, I still feel like…
196 00:30:05.590 ⇒ 00:30:14.249 Uttam Kumaran: I think you’re gonna get jammed. And so the option… you have two options. You have one option is just work a little bit more. Like, if you’re like, hey, I want to ramp up to 50,
197 00:30:14.740 ⇒ 00:30:16.310 Uttam Kumaran: You can make that decision.
198 00:30:16.610 ⇒ 00:30:17.650 Rico Rejoso: Okay. Right?
199 00:30:17.650 ⇒ 00:30:20.799 Uttam Kumaran: I still think, though, that, like, in the next…
200 00:30:21.320 ⇒ 00:30:27.840 Uttam Kumaran: before the end of the year, I’m gonna… I’m still thinking I should get you somebody to assist on recruiting and
201 00:30:27.970 ⇒ 00:30:29.270 Uttam Kumaran: operations.
202 00:30:29.870 ⇒ 00:30:38.960 Uttam Kumaran: That way, at least me, you, and that person are there, and you’re a project manager, I’m the client, that person’s the engineer, for example, right?
203 00:30:39.230 ⇒ 00:30:39.710 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
204 00:30:39.870 ⇒ 00:30:45.030 Uttam Kumaran: Cause I don’t… I don’t want you to… I don’t want it to be 3 months from now, and…
205 00:30:45.340 ⇒ 00:30:53.569 Uttam Kumaran: then we’re jammed, right? So I kind of want to get a sense of, like, okay, you’re currently, like, around 40 hours. I think as we get more clients.
206 00:30:53.750 ⇒ 00:30:57.829 Uttam Kumaran: we also may need your help on some of them, right? So…
207 00:30:58.190 ⇒ 00:31:05.260 Uttam Kumaran: I want… I want as close to 40 hours of your time going towards what you want to do, and what the company needs you to do, which is project management.
208 00:31:05.940 ⇒ 00:31:14.520 Uttam Kumaran: Getting contracts and stuff prepared, like, you know, there’s a lot of people you could train to do that, but you can’t train the people to do what you do, which is manage and
209 00:31:14.630 ⇒ 00:31:24.650 Uttam Kumaran: set expectations. And so, I want you to give the project management stuff, like, a really, really good go, and I want to make sure you have time for that. Like, for example, I don’t want
210 00:31:25.000 ⇒ 00:31:28.549 Uttam Kumaran: like, Justin and Alex, they’re gonna work with you and train you up.
211 00:31:28.660 ⇒ 00:31:33.949 Uttam Kumaran: But I don’t want you to not be able to do that because you have to send out contracts and things, right?
212 00:31:34.120 ⇒ 00:31:37.570 Uttam Kumaran: So, I want to make sure you’re putting your best foot forward for them.
213 00:31:38.860 ⇒ 00:31:39.690 Rico Rejoso: Definitely.
214 00:31:40.200 ⇒ 00:31:44.479 Rico Rejoso: I’ll try to improve as much on the PM side, to be honest, I’m learning a lot from them.
215 00:31:45.230 ⇒ 00:31:46.520 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, great.
216 00:31:48.280 ⇒ 00:31:54.660 Rico Rejoso: Okay. Perfect. I need to add hours for the contract or stuff, or any operations needed, but for now, I think I’m good.
217 00:31:55.430 ⇒ 00:31:56.850 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay, great.
218 00:31:57.630 ⇒ 00:32:04.020 Rico Rejoso: Alrighty, thank you so much, for this meeting. If you have any questions, you can still follow up on Slack, alright? Just let me know.
219 00:32:04.440 ⇒ 00:32:05.240 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
220 00:32:05.800 ⇒ 00:32:06.820 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you.
221 00:32:06.820 ⇒ 00:32:08.210 Rico Rejoso: Thank you, Tom. Have a good one.
222 00:32:08.850 ⇒ 00:32:09.450 Uttam Kumaran: Bye.