Meeting Title: Operations Role Trial Discussion Date: 2025-06-23 Meeting participants: Rico Rejoso, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:02:46.760 00:02:49.099 Uttam Kumaran: Hi! Rico! Sorry for the delay.

2 00:02:49.610 00:02:51.250 Rico Rejoso: No worries. Are you done.

3 00:02:51.960 00:02:53.249 Uttam Kumaran: Hey! How are you?

4 00:02:53.250 00:02:54.309 Rico Rejoso: Doing good. How are you.

5 00:02:55.050 00:02:56.669 Uttam Kumaran: Good. How’s your week going.

6 00:02:57.691 00:03:00.099 Rico Rejoso: Slow, and not busy at all.

7 00:03:01.193 00:03:07.829 Uttam Kumaran: I’m jealous. I guess it’s always grass is greener right?

8 00:03:08.330 00:03:12.609 Rico Rejoso: I mean, yeah, we all like to keep ourselves busy right?

9 00:03:13.110 00:03:18.526 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Great. Well, yeah, I just wanted to catch up.

10 00:03:19.110 00:03:38.609 Uttam Kumaran: just wanted to catch up today. And see whether you’d be open to potentially starting a a trial with us. We actually as I mentioned last time, we do have an opening on the operation side of our company. And really, what this role sort of entails is. Everything around handling our

11 00:03:38.970 00:03:55.080 Uttam Kumaran: contracts. Helping with payroll, related work, helping me directly with some like financial management, related work. And then we also have a lot of like help needed for some of our sales operations. But then, of course, like.

12 00:03:55.210 00:04:06.150 Uttam Kumaran: we have stuff around notion and linear. So yeah, I just wanted to get your appetite for that, and maybe potentially starting like a 2 week trial. To just like start to take on some of that work.

13 00:04:06.670 00:04:10.669 Rico Rejoso: Definitely. I’ll be happy to, you know. I’ll provide a service for you guys.

14 00:04:11.280 00:04:18.610 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool, and have you? You’ve I didn’t ask. I remember, if I asked last time, but you’ve used like notion before, or any like sort of those types of tools.

15 00:04:18.810 00:04:25.119 Rico Rejoso: Yeah. Personally, I use notion to keep track of my expenses and my tasks, especially. You know.

16 00:04:25.480 00:04:28.769 Rico Rejoso: Make sure that the budget is in for me and my family.

17 00:04:29.040 00:04:30.340 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, cool.

18 00:04:30.450 00:04:36.489 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I guess, give me a sense of like, for this 2 weeks, like, what would you be looking for in terms of rates?

19 00:04:36.994 00:04:41.340 Uttam Kumaran: And then also, I guess I would ask after the 2 weeks like.

20 00:04:41.450 00:04:47.250 Uttam Kumaran: Would you be available for like full time? Or would you be open to part time, or maybe give me a sense of that.

21 00:04:48.156 00:05:08.483 Rico Rejoso: For a great actually, I’m not really aware of how much position you guys are offering for it somewhere around 4 to 6 would be, you know. We can work on it, and for the full time position of part time. I’d be happy if we can do it full time since, like I’ve mentioned, it’s been slow for me, and you know, not busy at all.

22 00:05:08.770 00:05:27.890 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay? So yeah, I mean one. It’s like, I guess. Tell me, like, what if you don’t mind sharing like, what what were you making at your last rate, and to give you a sense of my my thesis like I wanna make sure everybody here is paid so that they’re motivated like we’re not here to like you say, and no matter what you say, I’ll go half of that like.

23 00:05:28.300 00:05:41.060 Uttam Kumaran: But so I wanna make sure that we’re in a range where you have. It’s like you’re you’re happy, but also that we have room to grow over time. So I don’t know if you give me a share with me a little bit about like what your last rate was, and then let me see what I can do.

24 00:05:42.005 00:06:09.480 Rico Rejoso: Right now be completely honest with you. I find you as a completely you know I mean fair and honest person. So the highest. Read that I had when as a freelancer, as working as a Va. Was 4 $4 an hour. So if you can play around between those, so you can have like room for us, you know, to increase or grow

25 00:06:09.630 00:06:11.200 Rico Rejoso: potentially as we go further.

26 00:06:11.770 00:06:36.409 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, perfect. So let’s plan on that. Let me let me just get approval. From Robert on my business partner internally. And then let me. Just if I can get you a contract and stuff we can get started. It’ll we’ll just start with 2 weeks, and then, after that, I think we can sign a longer term agreement. I want you to kind of get a sense of the workload and the types of work. Really, in this role, I think it’s working primarily with me. So

27 00:06:36.490 00:06:51.939 Uttam Kumaran: really understanding, like all of our core flows and functions like new client onboarding new employee onboarding handling payroll, organization of slack and notion. Those are all things that you know. We’re

28 00:06:51.980 00:07:11.719 Uttam Kumaran: would be really, really helpful. And it’s certain currently on my plate. You know. I also think in terms of in terms of timing like I don’t know if like Ryan works all the time like he’s like me. It works all day. But like we have a lot of folks that sort of work until one or 2 o’clock central time.

29 00:07:11.970 00:07:28.389 Uttam Kumaran: This is a role where you’re interfacing closely with me, so I’ll kind of leave it to you. Maybe to get a sense of like what times would work. It seems like you’re like bright awake right now, and I know it’s like 1 30 there. So I don’t know like what what timeframe are you typically like good with.

30 00:07:29.325 00:07:38.370 Rico Rejoso: To be honest, I can work like 16 HA day or more. It depends. If you want me to work during the night, or if you want me to work during your business hours, that would be fine with me.

31 00:07:38.860 00:07:59.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay? So then let’s plan business hours ish, for now, I feel like, typically between 8 Am. Eastern, and like 4, 8 to 4, 8 to 5 is usually like the timeframe that we work. So let’s plan on that. I think, as we find if you can take on more, Async. We can work on that. I don’t want anyone to be like

32 00:08:00.480 00:08:13.350 Uttam Kumaran: completely, no longer talking to friends and family because they’re like working. But like also this operations role, which means like, it’s, it’s kind of working together a lot. So I think over time, we’ll find like what we can split up. You know.

33 00:08:13.700 00:08:14.710 Rico Rejoso: Definitely.

34 00:08:15.400 00:08:23.550 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, perfect. Alright. Let me get back to you as soon as I can today. If you’re still be up, I’ll probably try to email you sometime in the next hour or 2.

35 00:08:23.550 00:08:26.659 Rico Rejoso: I’ll be up until 12 min, 12 min. Your time.

36 00:08:27.090 00:08:29.348 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, perfect. All right.

37 00:08:29.800 00:08:30.920 Rico Rejoso: Thank you so much for the offer.

38 00:08:30.920 00:08:31.300 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

39 00:08:31.300 00:08:32.220 Rico Rejoso: Meet with them.

40 00:08:32.580 00:08:35.989 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, of course, of course, really excited to work with you. And yeah, hopefully, talk soon.

41 00:08:35.990 00:08:37.760 Rico Rejoso: Alright, looking forward to it. Have a good one.

42 00:08:37.760 00:08:39.129 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? Bye.