Meeting Title: Marketing Team Standup Date: 2025-03-26 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Ryan Brosas, Hannah Wang
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1 00:00:49.710 ⇒ 00:00:51.350 Ryan Brosas: I’m doing well. Pretty good.
2 00:00:54.990 ⇒ 00:00:56.670 Ryan Brosas: Oh.
3 00:14:04.950 ⇒ 00:14:05.740 Uttam Kumaran: Hi team.
4 00:14:05.930 ⇒ 00:14:09.810 Uttam Kumaran: Sorry running late to every meeting today.
5 00:14:10.300 ⇒ 00:14:11.430 Hannah Wang: No worries.
6 00:14:12.810 ⇒ 00:14:17.139 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. I guess I I just wanted to jump right into and just basically go through
7 00:14:17.460 ⇒ 00:14:25.730 Uttam Kumaran: all of our tickets. And I think we have a couple of things that are in flight, a couple of things that we want to continue to break down. So we can just do that in this
8 00:14:26.360 ⇒ 00:14:32.919 Uttam Kumaran: in this meeting. I think the 1st thing we can start with is just this Pm.
9 00:14:33.120 ⇒ 00:14:39.980 Uttam Kumaran: Client presentation deck and maybe we just go through, and we could just talk through what?
10 00:14:41.010 ⇒ 00:14:45.940 Uttam Kumaran: what changes I mean. I know I had to add the requirements here, but I think probably just do that in this meeting.
11 00:14:48.360 ⇒ 00:14:52.909 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m just gonna open these
12 00:15:06.620 ⇒ 00:15:07.799 Uttam Kumaran: hold on one second.
13 00:15:09.070 ⇒ 00:15:09.810 Uttam Kumaran: New.
14 00:15:48.630 ⇒ 00:15:50.997 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? So we have
15 00:15:52.370 ⇒ 00:15:56.869 Uttam Kumaran: we have these that are a couple that we’ve done, and then we also have
16 00:15:57.380 ⇒ 00:15:59.130 Uttam Kumaran: our mid engagement. Right?
17 00:16:00.710 ⇒ 00:16:02.940 Uttam Kumaran: So we’re sort of comparing these 2
18 00:16:04.220 ⇒ 00:16:08.559 Hannah Wang: Yeah. Sorry. What’s the should there be a difference between these 2 or
19 00:16:08.560 ⇒ 00:16:08.890 Uttam Kumaran: No.
20 00:16:08.890 ⇒ 00:16:10.520 Hannah Wang: Like named differently. Okay?
21 00:16:10.690 ⇒ 00:16:14.389 Uttam Kumaran: Well, this is sort of them doing their own thing
22 00:16:14.960 ⇒ 00:16:15.415 Hannah Wang: Okay.
23 00:16:16.080 ⇒ 00:16:17.979 Uttam Kumaran: So there’s no, there shouldn’t be any difference
24 00:16:17.980 ⇒ 00:16:18.530 Hannah Wang: Okay.
25 00:16:18.530 ⇒ 00:16:32.319 Uttam Kumaran: So a couple of like, and I’m just. I’ll just have linear here to the side. But I’m taking notes on this ticket, so we kind of can talk through 1st the problems, and then we can talk like the goal, the problem, and then so the goal here is that
26 00:16:34.470 ⇒ 00:16:43.426 Uttam Kumaran: anyone meeting with a client good should basically should basically like,
27 00:16:44.480 ⇒ 00:16:46.889 Uttam Kumaran: have a well have a well formatted deck.
28 00:16:46.890 ⇒ 00:16:48.609 Uttam Kumaran: You know that they can leverage
29 00:16:56.240 ⇒ 00:17:02.339 Uttam Kumaran: right? The current problem right now is, people are making their own decks.
30 00:17:03.120 ⇒ 00:17:13.679 Uttam Kumaran: They aren’t using standard brand, and they look super super sloppy.
31 00:17:14.910 ⇒ 00:17:15.949 Uttam Kumaran: In my opinion.
32 00:17:18.849 ⇒ 00:17:19.700 Uttam Kumaran: Right?
33 00:17:19.980 ⇒ 00:17:25.809 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s also list. Maybe a couple of like, what we see is the is the key issues here.
34 00:17:27.520 ⇒ 00:17:35.159 Uttam Kumaran: So like a couple of like, maybe, like the like the slide types.
35 00:17:35.310 ⇒ 00:17:37.330 Uttam Kumaran: I think the biggest thing is like, how do we?
36 00:17:41.330 ⇒ 00:17:59.010 Uttam Kumaran: How do we improve the mid engagement templates to match all required template slides needed by Pm’s
37 00:18:00.130 ⇒ 00:18:02.440 Uttam Kumaran: and pos like product owners
38 00:18:06.120 ⇒ 00:18:08.920 Uttam Kumaran: I also think that we can.
39 00:18:09.550 ⇒ 00:18:16.129 Uttam Kumaran: like, probably rename the mid engagement, do just like client presentation
40 00:18:16.130 ⇒ 00:18:16.770 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
41 00:18:16.940 ⇒ 00:18:18.070 Uttam Kumaran: Deck template.
42 00:18:18.490 ⇒ 00:18:19.740 Uttam Kumaran: That’s an easy one.
43 00:18:21.626 ⇒ 00:18:27.289 Uttam Kumaran: But like, I think we have a couple of things here, right? We have an agenda slide
44 00:18:29.320 ⇒ 00:18:32.660 Uttam Kumaran: right? That’s not here. So we have a. We have like agenda.
45 00:18:34.660 ⇒ 00:18:37.560 Uttam Kumaran: we already do have a title which is being used right?
46 00:18:38.750 ⇒ 00:18:42.589 Hannah Wang: Kind of a variation of it. It’s not the exact same one
47 00:18:42.870 ⇒ 00:18:46.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, exactly right? So so.
48 00:18:47.130 ⇒ 00:18:57.190 Uttam Kumaran: But like, Oh, I I think once we have everything we can then say, you have to use this right, and I’ll start to review everything. So then I can be like cool. You need to pull this from that deck
49 00:18:57.190 ⇒ 00:18:57.780 Hannah Wang: Okay.
50 00:18:58.205 ⇒ 00:19:00.700 Uttam Kumaran: These slides I don’t really like.
51 00:19:00.860 ⇒ 00:19:10.770 Uttam Kumaran: This is a old. This is a deck that I gave some feedback on about. It’s being way too long. But so stuff like this we don’t need. We definitely need, like a timeline
52 00:19:11.000 ⇒ 00:19:11.840 Uttam Kumaran: view.
53 00:19:12.455 ⇒ 00:19:14.710 Uttam Kumaran: If you look at this deck.
54 00:19:15.390 ⇒ 00:19:19.478 Uttam Kumaran: this is sort of what the latest view of a timeline is.
55 00:19:20.460 ⇒ 00:19:25.269 Uttam Kumaran: so that’s something that we need like, almost like a timeline gantt view.
56 00:19:25.590 ⇒ 00:19:28.900 Uttam Kumaran: This is something I think she built directly in here.
57 00:19:31.010 ⇒ 00:19:36.400 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I feel like that’s kinda hard to. I don’t know like templatize
58 00:19:36.730 ⇒ 00:19:42.350 Uttam Kumaran: It’s hard to templatize, but I think the option is to then give them a figma template right
59 00:19:42.490 ⇒ 00:19:43.960 Uttam Kumaran: like a fake jam, template
60 00:19:44.330 ⇒ 00:19:45.050 Hannah Wang: Okay.
61 00:19:45.630 ⇒ 00:19:48.909 Uttam Kumaran: Right. So this is where it’s like. If we’re not able to have a template
62 00:19:49.200 ⇒ 00:19:53.019 Uttam Kumaran: here, then they should be able to have a fig jam template that they can screenshot
63 00:19:53.290 ⇒ 00:19:53.940 Hannah Wang: Hmm.
64 00:19:53.940 ⇒ 00:19:58.020 Uttam Kumaran: But I want to make it very clear on like the Pm’s are not. Gonna think about.
65 00:19:58.680 ⇒ 00:20:01.619 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, hot. They’re gonna just do whatever needs to happen.
66 00:20:01.870 ⇒ 00:20:02.480 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
67 00:20:02.480 ⇒ 00:20:05.360 Uttam Kumaran: So I wanna give them a path forward. For like we have a
68 00:20:05.820 ⇒ 00:20:10.470 Uttam Kumaran: do you need to create a timeline? Go use this fig jam template to go do that right.
69 00:20:11.700 ⇒ 00:20:15.420 Uttam Kumaran: The other pieces. We have these like mid.
70 00:20:16.710 ⇒ 00:20:20.589 Uttam Kumaran: like mid phase. I don’t know what these are called.
71 00:20:20.780 ⇒ 00:20:24.069 Uttam Kumaran: Sorry. I don’t know. Like kind of how slides the lingo
72 00:20:24.070 ⇒ 00:20:26.887 Hannah Wang: The like title slide. I don’t know
73 00:20:27.290 ⇒ 00:20:29.759 Uttam Kumaran: This is like a section section.
74 00:20:30.240 ⇒ 00:20:33.059 Uttam Kumaran: This is like a new selection title, slide.
75 00:20:33.060 ⇒ 00:20:34.389 Hannah Wang: Okay. Yeah.
76 00:20:38.350 ⇒ 00:20:44.600 Uttam Kumaran: All of these are all tables, right? So some of these are just like bullets, just
77 00:20:44.600 ⇒ 00:20:47.940 Uttam Kumaran: bullets, right? So we need a bullets.
78 00:20:52.000 ⇒ 00:20:57.439 Uttam Kumaran: These are all single image right like I hate how this looks.
79 00:20:58.120 ⇒ 00:20:59.180 Uttam Kumaran: It’s horrible.
80 00:20:59.680 ⇒ 00:21:03.470 Uttam Kumaran: but like I didn’t, I don’t have a choice. I can’t tell them to like. Take this back
81 00:21:04.580 ⇒ 00:21:09.059 Uttam Kumaran: But like, I don’t know, this is like, I think it just looks. It just needs to look
82 00:21:09.190 ⇒ 00:21:10.250 Uttam Kumaran: way better.
83 00:21:10.760 ⇒ 00:21:16.739 Uttam Kumaran: So we do have this, which is like a single image title. But like, we need something like this, which is like a
84 00:21:17.050 ⇒ 00:21:18.948 Uttam Kumaran: it’s almost like, Have you seen the
85 00:21:19.610 ⇒ 00:21:21.281 Uttam Kumaran: like? If I go to
86 00:21:23.270 ⇒ 00:21:28.338 Uttam Kumaran: if I go to new from the template gallery and just do like
87 00:21:31.370 ⇒ 00:21:33.659 Uttam Kumaran: let’s just see like status report
88 00:21:39.430 ⇒ 00:21:42.850 Uttam Kumaran: this is not good, or either new
89 00:21:47.610 ⇒ 00:21:49.020 Uttam Kumaran: from templates.
90 00:21:51.020 ⇒ 00:21:52.150 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s see.
91 00:22:01.690 ⇒ 00:22:02.710 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm!
92 00:22:05.230 ⇒ 00:22:07.529 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know if even these are fine.
93 00:22:08.760 ⇒ 00:22:12.149 Uttam Kumaran: but like something like this, which is like left and right.
94 00:22:13.780 ⇒ 00:22:17.059 Uttam Kumaran: So we have things like this where it’s like
95 00:22:17.220 ⇒ 00:22:19.210 Uttam Kumaran: we need text on the left side
96 00:22:19.420 ⇒ 00:22:21.049 Uttam Kumaran: and then image on the right.
97 00:22:22.630 ⇒ 00:22:30.120 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know what you would call that like single like bullets plus image
98 00:22:31.710 ⇒ 00:22:33.380 Hannah Wang: Is that not slide 9
99 00:22:39.240 ⇒ 00:22:42.749 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess it’s slide 9. I guess that I guess that would be my
100 00:22:44.290 ⇒ 00:22:47.510 Uttam Kumaran: question would be, can they use slide 9 here, I’m not sure
101 00:22:49.300 ⇒ 00:22:54.600 Uttam Kumaran: like, do you think they can use slide 9 here versus this like, what about something like this?
102 00:22:55.780 ⇒ 00:22:58.560 Uttam Kumaran: I guess if they were to make the out of here
103 00:23:01.030 ⇒ 00:23:07.869 Hannah Wang: Well slide 10 has a screenshot on the left bottom.
104 00:23:09.620 ⇒ 00:23:11.730 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. But this is like this should be here
105 00:23:11.990 ⇒ 00:23:14.540 Hannah Wang: Okay, yeah.
106 00:23:19.280 ⇒ 00:23:27.629 Hannah Wang: I mean, I trust that they have enough of a visual like understanding to where, if they want to insert 2 photos into Slide 9 on the right. They can just like
107 00:23:28.140 ⇒ 00:23:32.919 Hannah Wang: format it themselves like, add the photo, and then like, move it around. So that’s
108 00:23:33.030 ⇒ 00:23:35.010 Hannah Wang: I feel like it’s like 10
109 00:23:35.010 ⇒ 00:23:39.829 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. I. Then I think, like having it like this, with this 2 sides is fine.
110 00:23:40.500 ⇒ 00:23:43.589 Uttam Kumaran: Slide 10 is like what we should do with like something like this, right?
111 00:23:43.590 ⇒ 00:23:45.040 Hannah Wang: Yeah. Right? Yep.
112 00:23:46.200 ⇒ 00:23:46.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
113 00:23:47.330 ⇒ 00:23:51.630 Hannah Wang: I’ll create like like a title, and heading like
114 00:23:51.630 ⇒ 00:23:59.130 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. But I also think my only point is to like, not have an example.
115 00:23:59.670 ⇒ 00:24:02.209 Uttam Kumaran: but to literally be like this is a title
116 00:24:02.480 ⇒ 00:24:03.200 Hannah Wang: Okay.
117 00:24:03.590 ⇒ 00:24:08.729 Uttam Kumaran: Like you could keep the image. But like, just make it super obvious. Consider, consider them like.
118 00:24:08.880 ⇒ 00:24:13.500 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, just like they need to find it really quick, because these guys will freak and just go do it themselves.
119 00:24:13.500 ⇒ 00:24:14.590 Hannah Wang: Okay. Sure.
120 00:24:15.287 ⇒ 00:24:18.212 Uttam Kumaran: So I think the other piece is
121 00:24:30.910 ⇒ 00:24:34.347 Uttam Kumaran: cool, and then let’s see what else they have like.
122 00:24:35.080 ⇒ 00:24:42.430 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, these are all, I think. Slide 9 type stuff. Can we make one? That’s not with the bar here, and just a left
123 00:24:43.220 ⇒ 00:24:44.010 Hannah Wang: Sure.
124 00:24:44.220 ⇒ 00:24:48.250 Uttam Kumaran: Just a same color, left, right.
125 00:24:48.890 ⇒ 00:24:49.480 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
126 00:24:50.200 ⇒ 00:24:51.929 Uttam Kumaran: The bolds plus image.
127 00:24:55.000 ⇒ 00:24:59.759 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. Same bg, color something like that
128 00:24:59.990 ⇒ 00:25:00.480 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
129 00:25:00.480 ⇒ 00:25:06.129 Uttam Kumaran: Whatever it’s this one I think they should have just used the
130 00:25:07.270 ⇒ 00:25:09.400 Uttam Kumaran: they should have just used this template for.
131 00:25:09.510 ⇒ 00:25:13.890 Uttam Kumaran: But like this is, gonna be pretty common where they’re doing like a progress.
132 00:25:15.160 ⇒ 00:25:16.390 Uttam Kumaran: Eta
133 00:25:17.370 ⇒ 00:25:21.340 Uttam Kumaran: So I think that I think they could. They should just use slide 12 for this.
134 00:25:25.260 ⇒ 00:25:30.730 Uttam Kumaran: And yeah, we need a closing slide
135 00:25:31.230 ⇒ 00:25:31.870 Hannah Wang: Okay.
136 00:25:31.870 ⇒ 00:25:35.790 Uttam Kumaran: And then we also need a client pod.
137 00:25:36.280 ⇒ 00:25:38.410 Uttam Kumaran: live like who is working on the client
138 00:25:38.410 ⇒ 00:25:40.010 Hannah Wang: Like slide 2 on the left
139 00:25:41.361 ⇒ 00:25:44.969 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, whatever the previous? Yeah, exactly.
140 00:25:44.970 ⇒ 00:25:45.610 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
141 00:25:47.330 ⇒ 00:25:47.650 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly.
142 00:25:47.650 ⇒ 00:25:50.519 Uttam Kumaran: That’s like, who’s who’s like the just the team. Basically
143 00:25:50.830 ⇒ 00:25:51.219 Hannah Wang: Okay.
144 00:25:52.734 ⇒ 00:25:54.270 Uttam Kumaran: The other thing here.
145 00:25:57.850 ⇒ 00:26:02.320 Uttam Kumaran: I think a before after slide could be nice, too. So 2 images before after
146 00:26:02.320 ⇒ 00:26:02.920 Hannah Wang: Yeah,
147 00:26:03.520 ⇒ 00:26:08.329 Uttam Kumaran: We do. We do a lot of this sort of thing where we show, like what the previous state current state is
148 00:26:08.330 ⇒ 00:26:09.080 Hannah Wang: Okay.
149 00:26:17.820 ⇒ 00:26:21.170 Hannah Wang: Oh, it’s like very artsy, I will say the slides
150 00:26:21.170 ⇒ 00:26:22.850 Uttam Kumaran: These slides are very artsy.
151 00:26:24.050 ⇒ 00:26:30.933 Uttam Kumaran: But like, we’re yeah, I I would say, like, I want the art to be in that. We’re we’re conveying the things really, clearly.
152 00:26:31.440 ⇒ 00:26:32.240 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
153 00:26:34.240 ⇒ 00:26:37.039 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like 2 Google slidey template for me.
154 00:26:38.651 ⇒ 00:26:43.899 Uttam Kumaran: And then we need one like kind of contact information slide. We can just could be a table
155 00:26:44.670 ⇒ 00:26:47.290 Uttam Kumaran: name, role email, fine
156 00:26:47.750 ⇒ 00:26:48.640 Hannah Wang: Okay.
157 00:26:49.289 ⇒ 00:26:55.040 Uttam Kumaran: And then let’s see. Yeah, this is actually where I think we we should get a slide for this, which is like a
158 00:26:56.710 ⇒ 00:27:04.039 Uttam Kumaran: basically like a proposed like a project overview slide.
159 00:27:04.573 ⇒ 00:27:11.620 Uttam Kumaran: And I’ll I’ll put some bullets here which is just like project title.
160 00:27:11.860 ⇒ 00:27:14.320 Uttam Kumaran: It’s going to have the impact.
161 00:27:14.420 ⇒ 00:27:22.710 Uttam Kumaran: It’s gonna have the feasibility, feasibility and timeline
162 00:27:23.070 ⇒ 00:27:27.480 Uttam Kumaran: feasibility. Yeah, just feasibility. And then it’s gonna have short description
163 00:27:29.310 ⇒ 00:27:34.269 Uttam Kumaran: to give you a sense of what we’re doing here. We’re we’re we’re proposing that we work on these
164 00:27:34.820 ⇒ 00:27:35.540 Hannah Wang: Okay.
165 00:27:35.540 ⇒ 00:27:39.199 Uttam Kumaran: So basically, I’m like, I need a slide where it’s like, what is it? The impact?
166 00:27:39.440 ⇒ 00:27:41.239 Uttam Kumaran: And like a description of it?
167 00:27:43.010 ⇒ 00:27:45.010 Hannah Wang: What’s the feasibility?
168 00:27:45.010 ⇒ 00:27:45.990 Uttam Kumaran: Feasibilities.
169 00:27:45.990 ⇒ 00:27:46.820 Hannah Wang: So this is
170 00:27:46.820 ⇒ 00:27:50.890 Uttam Kumaran: This is gonna this, whether it’s not on here. But this is gonna be like low medium
171 00:27:50.890 ⇒ 00:27:53.120 Hannah Wang: Oh, okay. Okay.
172 00:27:53.120 ⇒ 00:27:55.063 Uttam Kumaran: And then the last thing is gonna be like
173 00:27:57.320 ⇒ 00:27:58.810 Uttam Kumaran: Open questions.
174 00:27:59.840 ⇒ 00:28:06.330 Uttam Kumaran: So again, this can be like really consultant looking. I don’t care like
175 00:28:07.420 ⇒ 00:28:09.059 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s that’s fine.
176 00:28:09.060 ⇒ 00:28:09.600 Hannah Wang: Okay.
177 00:28:09.871 ⇒ 00:28:12.589 Uttam Kumaran: I think also, if we can do one triple image
178 00:28:13.270 ⇒ 00:28:13.690 Hannah Wang: Sure.
179 00:28:14.110 ⇒ 00:28:19.260 Uttam Kumaran: Triple image with caption, so triple image, with caption, double image with caption.
180 00:28:19.930 ⇒ 00:28:22.460 Uttam Kumaran: Those are just standard ones.
181 00:28:24.970 ⇒ 00:28:28.520 Uttam Kumaran: Let me, did I? Where did I send that like Mckinsey thing?
182 00:28:29.050 ⇒ 00:28:34.270 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s see, Mckenzie.
183 00:28:45.800 ⇒ 00:28:50.000 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s actually maybe helpful for us to just even take a look at this. So I found this like.
184 00:28:51.130 ⇒ 00:28:56.469 Uttam Kumaran: I found that I just went and did a lot of reading about consulting decks and
185 00:29:00.600 ⇒ 00:29:07.240 Uttam Kumaran: they have a this which is like the contents, which is just like what we’re gonna discuss today.
186 00:29:08.446 ⇒ 00:29:10.819 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna I’ll I’ll keep this here.
187 00:29:10.940 ⇒ 00:29:15.839 Uttam Kumaran: We have this so content. So right now we don’t. I don’t think we have a
188 00:29:16.270 ⇒ 00:29:17.989 Uttam Kumaran: table of contents
189 00:29:18.600 ⇒ 00:29:24.260 Uttam Kumaran: I think I think it would be great to have one of these, and we can. Prior. I’ll I’ll tell you which ones are priority versus not
190 00:29:24.260 ⇒ 00:29:24.820 Hannah Wang: Okay.
191 00:29:24.820 ⇒ 00:29:27.539 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s have a table of contents, parallel structure.
192 00:29:28.110 ⇒ 00:29:31.109 Uttam Kumaran: titles of pages, the most valuable. Use them wisely.
193 00:29:32.680 ⇒ 00:29:38.430 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, I basically want every slide to have a title subtitle
194 00:29:38.430 ⇒ 00:29:39.590 Hannah Wang: Yup! Yup!
195 00:29:40.440 ⇒ 00:29:42.130 Uttam Kumaran: Right? So, for example.
196 00:29:42.370 ⇒ 00:29:50.679 Uttam Kumaran: operational benefits. And then there could be something right below it, right? Or something like that. This is really helpful to consider. What I’m showing on the right is like.
197 00:29:50.970 ⇒ 00:29:52.070 Uttam Kumaran: If I was to
198 00:29:52.220 ⇒ 00:29:58.539 Uttam Kumaran: whole, if I was to say we’re purely going on just information density, it would be this
199 00:29:59.350 ⇒ 00:30:01.640 Uttam Kumaran: We will take this and make it a little bit better
200 00:30:01.770 ⇒ 00:30:02.610 Hannah Wang: Okay.
201 00:30:02.956 ⇒ 00:30:11.609 Uttam Kumaran: This is an example of like what one of their debt one of their slides looks like. Right like it’s so. It’s so practical
202 00:30:11.920 ⇒ 00:30:14.530 Hannah Wang: It just shows what it needs to show
203 00:30:15.910 ⇒ 00:30:20.830 Uttam Kumaran: Which is like the title, and then section for data.
204 00:30:21.870 ⇒ 00:30:22.790 Uttam Kumaran: That’s it.
205 00:30:23.280 ⇒ 00:30:29.250 Uttam Kumaran: And this is really clear. And so some of these is like design team is not gonna have a control over. But what we have control over is making sure that
206 00:30:29.390 ⇒ 00:30:32.470 Uttam Kumaran: we force whoever’s creating the deck
207 00:30:32.760 ⇒ 00:30:35.949 Uttam Kumaran: to have to make sure to have a point per slide
208 00:30:36.210 ⇒ 00:30:36.600 Hannah Wang: Right.
209 00:30:37.230 ⇒ 00:30:40.409 Uttam Kumaran: Like this kicker box is a really good example.
210 00:30:41.271 ⇒ 00:30:46.136 Uttam Kumaran: And let me see if this like, let’s
211 00:30:48.060 ⇒ 00:30:51.530 Uttam Kumaran: This is a really good example of like, what is the takeaway
212 00:30:52.830 ⇒ 00:30:56.080 Uttam Kumaran: So how can we on the design team have
213 00:30:56.250 ⇒ 00:31:02.069 Uttam Kumaran: have the templates help our Pm’s to translate what the fuck is. The takeaway from some of these
214 00:31:02.070 ⇒ 00:31:02.440 Hannah Wang: Live.
215 00:31:02.930 ⇒ 00:31:07.200 Uttam Kumaran: Like if I was to look at like this is where I got frustrated. Because I’m
216 00:31:07.330 ⇒ 00:31:09.369 Uttam Kumaran: I’m looking at this, and it’s like
217 00:31:11.070 ⇒ 00:31:18.639 Uttam Kumaran: this should be the takeaway. But what this should say is like, we like, we’ve improved.
218 00:31:19.420 ⇒ 00:31:22.770 Uttam Kumaran: We’ve improved service recollection
219 00:31:22.970 ⇒ 00:31:27.920 Uttam Kumaran: by 100%, and this should be in like bold letters down here, right? So
220 00:31:28.320 ⇒ 00:31:34.459 Uttam Kumaran: Something has to have like there has to be. I want us to force these guys to to think about every slide, because
221 00:31:35.040 ⇒ 00:31:44.869 Uttam Kumaran: I we only have 30 min to an hour with some of these folks every week, and it’s imperative that we show very clearly what we did. We leave them with this artifact.
222 00:31:45.569 ⇒ 00:31:48.159 Uttam Kumaran: And it’s like every slide has a has a purpose
223 00:31:50.680 ⇒ 00:32:00.100 Uttam Kumaran: there are these like simple framework things like that’s fine. I’m less concerned about that. I’m less concerned about these data slides. If we need them longer term. That’s fine.
224 00:32:03.060 ⇒ 00:32:08.470 Uttam Kumaran: I think. This is like a
225 00:32:08.920 ⇒ 00:32:11.829 Uttam Kumaran: a recommendation slide that’s probably worth
226 00:32:11.940 ⇒ 00:32:16.620 Uttam Kumaran: considering, which is like blah blah blah impact. Right?
227 00:32:17.500 ⇒ 00:32:19.279 Uttam Kumaran: This is so ugly, but like.
228 00:32:19.780 ⇒ 00:32:22.410 Uttam Kumaran: think this is a good example of like
229 00:32:22.998 ⇒ 00:32:28.250 Uttam Kumaran: what a proposal! What like our proposal slide could look like, which is like the the name.
230 00:32:28.520 ⇒ 00:32:31.409 Uttam Kumaran: the feasibility, the other thing, the notes.
231 00:32:31.950 ⇒ 00:32:35.760 Uttam Kumaran: and like what we expect, impact could be an open questions or something like that, right? Like
232 00:32:35.760 ⇒ 00:32:36.320 Hannah Wang: But
233 00:32:36.320 ⇒ 00:32:40.479 Uttam Kumaran: This is actually house. How like direct! I want it to look like
234 00:32:40.900 ⇒ 00:32:41.720 Hannah Wang: Okay.
235 00:32:43.760 ⇒ 00:32:47.959 Uttam Kumaran: And then I think this is all fine.
236 00:32:50.300 ⇒ 00:32:54.020 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s take a look if there’s anything else in here.
237 00:32:55.120 ⇒ 00:33:00.740 Uttam Kumaran: So these. So this is like a they. They did a presentation Mckinsey did to usps on like how to make more money
238 00:33:00.740 ⇒ 00:33:01.900 Hannah Wang: Oh, okay.
239 00:33:02.583 ⇒ 00:33:08.819 Uttam Kumaran: And so like. But look how specific this this is, which is just like what is it? What are the key drivers
240 00:33:09.000 ⇒ 00:33:09.810 Hannah Wang: Hmm.
241 00:33:09.810 ⇒ 00:33:12.899 Uttam Kumaran: When you open this site. Losses have been driving declines.
242 00:33:13.840 ⇒ 00:33:18.660 Uttam Kumaran: This causes limitations on cost savings right? So like this should be
243 00:33:20.365 ⇒ 00:33:28.060 Uttam Kumaran: Like, for example, the title here should be, golden data shoot improved
244 00:33:30.820 ⇒ 00:33:33.070 Uttam Kumaran: like something like that. It should just be like.
245 00:33:33.730 ⇒ 00:33:38.840 Uttam Kumaran: there, I, I actually, this is one piece of like our design area where
246 00:33:39.080 ⇒ 00:33:41.900 Uttam Kumaran: I actually would rather it be.
247 00:33:42.390 ⇒ 00:33:45.130 Uttam Kumaran: It’s more direct than like beautiful
248 00:33:45.460 ⇒ 00:33:46.830 Hannah Wang: Okay, yeah, function.
249 00:33:46.830 ⇒ 00:33:51.469 Uttam Kumaran: I, I wanna yeah functional you’re totally spot on. I think you get what I’m trying to say. But like
250 00:33:51.470 ⇒ 00:33:51.850 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
251 00:33:52.230 ⇒ 00:33:54.379 Uttam Kumaran: More functional than beautiful.
252 00:33:54.510 ⇒ 00:34:08.940 Uttam Kumaran: A lot of people, especially people who aren’t designers. They get stuck because I know, because I get stuck trying to make this beautiful, when, in fact, my job as a Pm. Should be to focus on being translating the information, getting what we need back
253 00:34:09.360 ⇒ 00:34:09.690 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
254 00:34:09.690 ⇒ 00:34:10.310 Uttam Kumaran: Right.
255 00:34:12.120 ⇒ 00:34:19.049 Uttam Kumaran: This is a great example of like very, very functional slides. I don’t, I think again, as long as we are able to have like titles.
256 00:34:19.170 ⇒ 00:34:23.710 Uttam Kumaran: 2 pieces, and like a key piece like that’s that’s great. I don’t care about these other like
257 00:34:23.860 ⇒ 00:34:25.929 Uttam Kumaran: these other types of slides.
258 00:34:27.650 ⇒ 00:34:28.659 Uttam Kumaran: I think.
259 00:34:30.179 ⇒ 00:34:38.120 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, this is kind of interesting about like highlighting the action. I think if we just have fundamentally on every slide, if we have like, here’s a box of like what the takeaway is
260 00:34:38.120 ⇒ 00:34:38.800 Hannah Wang: Sure.
261 00:34:38.800 ⇒ 00:34:39.500 Uttam Kumaran: Good.
262 00:34:43.580 ⇒ 00:34:45.810 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I feel like that’s probably
263 00:34:46.610 ⇒ 00:34:50.930 Uttam Kumaran: that’s probably the majority of what I had to say on this like. But let me know if you have any any other.
264 00:34:51.889 ⇒ 00:34:53.360 Uttam Kumaran: any other questions
265 00:34:53.889 ⇒ 00:34:58.319 Hannah Wang: No, that makes sense. If you could link that in the linear ticket that’d be helpful.
266 00:34:59.489 ⇒ 00:35:03.529 Hannah Wang: and the U. The Usps one, too.
267 00:35:03.530 ⇒ 00:35:04.240 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
268 00:35:23.230 ⇒ 00:35:23.970 Uttam Kumaran: okay.
269 00:35:24.500 ⇒ 00:35:27.139 Uttam Kumaran: I link them both here.
270 00:35:27.140 ⇒ 00:35:27.600 Hannah Wang: Interesting.
271 00:35:27.600 ⇒ 00:35:30.030 Uttam Kumaran: The edit. This, this is the
272 00:35:33.880 ⇒ 00:35:43.216 Uttam Kumaran: okay in terms of like priority. Then let me actually just ping let me
273 00:35:50.950 ⇒ 00:35:55.900 Uttam Kumaran: Let me just see if I have any other slides for you honestly, that I can just show what we’re doing.
274 00:36:10.910 ⇒ 00:36:12.080 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.
275 00:36:44.650 ⇒ 00:36:52.110 Uttam Kumaran: so this is probably the only other thing that I’ll we can probably walk through really quick, which is like this. This is like something Robert has been presenting.
276 00:36:54.590 ⇒ 00:36:56.970 Uttam Kumaran: Again. This is probably like a 2 image
277 00:36:57.090 ⇒ 00:37:00.110 Uttam Kumaran: thing, and like he did a good job. Being like
278 00:37:00.510 ⇒ 00:37:05.642 Uttam Kumaran: this is the. This is the title right, 3 image flow.
279 00:37:07.130 ⇒ 00:37:12.939 Uttam Kumaran: I think. For the most part he can get away with using our new thing. Now, honestly.
280 00:37:14.030 ⇒ 00:37:16.109 Hannah Wang: I mean, I think this is what I use to make
281 00:37:16.110 ⇒ 00:37:18.710 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think that’s exactly yeah.
282 00:37:22.270 ⇒ 00:37:23.260 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.
283 00:37:24.120 ⇒ 00:37:25.019 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.
284 00:37:25.790 ⇒ 00:37:26.969 Uttam Kumaran: So if we talk about
285 00:37:26.970 ⇒ 00:37:27.850 Hannah Wang: Cool. Okay.
286 00:37:27.850 ⇒ 00:37:32.024 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. If we talk about priorities here, then
287 00:37:33.590 ⇒ 00:37:39.645 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna I’ll just do. Let’s just do
288 00:37:49.610 ⇒ 00:37:53.709 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna say urgent, non urgent
289 00:37:54.390 ⇒ 00:37:55.120 Hannah Wang: Okay.
290 00:37:55.120 ⇒ 00:37:56.880 Uttam Kumaran: Urgent. So
291 00:38:21.410 ⇒ 00:38:23.240 Uttam Kumaran: I think these are.
292 00:38:26.790 ⇒ 00:38:33.190 Uttam Kumaran: This is pro. These are probably the most urgent. In fact, I. This is a project overview proposal. But this is like project overview
293 00:38:34.320 ⇒ 00:38:36.230 Uttam Kumaran: or proposal meaning
294 00:38:36.230 ⇒ 00:38:36.890 Hannah Wang: Oh!
295 00:38:36.890 ⇒ 00:38:43.979 Uttam Kumaran: So I want, like to show you just give you an example. And I and I just sort of had this in my mind like we have several work streams. We’re working on
296 00:38:44.345 ⇒ 00:38:44.560 Hannah Wang: Right.
297 00:38:44.560 ⇒ 00:38:48.239 Uttam Kumaran: We have like our dashboard work stream. I want to put like, here’s the update.
298 00:38:48.830 ⇒ 00:38:53.750 Uttam Kumaran: Here’s where we are. Now. Here’s where we’ll be next week, open questions done next workshop next workshop, next workshop
299 00:38:53.750 ⇒ 00:38:55.180 Hannah Wang: Okay. Yeah.
300 00:38:55.390 ⇒ 00:39:00.659 Uttam Kumaran: So some of these will have like. Here’s the project overview, and then we’ll have the next slide will just be like a demo image.
301 00:39:01.170 ⇒ 00:39:06.559 Uttam Kumaran: But this is where, like, I think, we probably need. Well, let’s get this version out, and we’ll need another
302 00:39:07.190 ⇒ 00:39:08.880 Uttam Kumaran: set of feedback from the Pm’s
303 00:39:08.880 ⇒ 00:39:09.415 Hannah Wang: Yeah,
304 00:39:10.192 ⇒ 00:39:12.370 Uttam Kumaran: But how do you? What do you think about?
305 00:39:13.040 ⇒ 00:39:18.049 Uttam Kumaran: What do you think about these? And I would love to get like I would love Amber at least to be able to present.
306 00:39:18.300 ⇒ 00:39:23.639 Uttam Kumaran: Use this for her Friday presentation. And then I’m talking to the Pm’s later today. So I can.
307 00:39:24.190 ⇒ 00:39:27.779 Uttam Kumaran: I can basically tell them to start using this for any client presentations
308 00:39:28.510 ⇒ 00:39:36.030 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I mean, I feel like, because Google slides, it’s so hard to make beautiful that I have to be pragmatic and functional anyway. So I don’t think it’ll take
309 00:39:36.380 ⇒ 00:39:39.510 Hannah Wang: hopefully that long. But yeah.
310 00:39:39.510 ⇒ 00:39:40.400 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And I’ll
311 00:39:40.400 ⇒ 00:39:41.130 Hannah Wang: Okay.
312 00:39:41.130 ⇒ 00:39:44.250 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Then I wanna yeah, I’ll give you the free rein to sort of
313 00:39:45.750 ⇒ 00:39:47.889 Uttam Kumaran: to make it more functional than
314 00:39:49.880 ⇒ 00:39:54.700 Uttam Kumaran: than than anything really like. If if we have to make design like
315 00:39:55.020 ⇒ 00:40:02.257 Uttam Kumaran: considerations, then yeah, functionality is the best thing. But, like again, at least, we can standardize like color
316 00:40:03.340 ⇒ 00:40:07.010 Uttam Kumaran: Like just making it super super clear. Again, the focus should not be.
317 00:40:07.560 ⇒ 00:40:14.359 Uttam Kumaran: People should not be distracted, they should actually it should. The the design should have helped them focus in on how functional and direct it is.
318 00:40:14.700 ⇒ 00:40:20.820 Uttam Kumaran: So again, I would say, the Mckinsey is like they literally only have 2, 2 fucking colors.
319 00:40:21.970 ⇒ 00:40:25.279 Uttam Kumaran: you know, or 3 colors, and it’s white on black on blue.
320 00:40:25.420 ⇒ 00:40:26.520 Hannah Wang: And
321 00:40:27.080 ⇒ 00:40:32.230 Uttam Kumaran: We don’t have to go this far, but I would if I was to say from where we are now. To this I would lean more this way
322 00:40:32.230 ⇒ 00:40:35.819 Hannah Wang: Right? Yeah, yeah, I’ll try to crank it up
323 00:40:36.183 ⇒ 00:40:47.359 Hannah Wang: today. And then if you get can get feedback for me, maybe tomorrow, like just ping the Pm’s and say, like, this is a slide, let me know, like, or at least for amber, for example, cause she’s gonna make the slide on Friday
324 00:40:47.360 ⇒ 00:40:50.200 Uttam Kumaran: If you send this to me today, I’ll get to you the feedback today.
325 00:40:51.672 ⇒ 00:40:55.349 Hannah Wang: I’ll basically ask the further feedback as soon as you get this to me.
326 00:40:55.350 ⇒ 00:40:56.160 Hannah Wang: Sure. Okay.
327 00:40:56.393 ⇒ 00:40:58.960 Uttam Kumaran: So at least you’ll you’ll hear from me, me or Amber
328 00:40:59.140 ⇒ 00:41:02.060 Hannah Wang: And then I’ll ping it to Akash as well. He’ll have some feedback.
329 00:41:02.410 ⇒ 00:41:04.070 Hannah Wang: Okay, yep.
330 00:41:04.340 ⇒ 00:41:08.909 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool, awesome. So I’m gonna move this to to do
331 00:41:09.380 ⇒ 00:41:10.030 Hannah Wang: Sure.
332 00:41:10.650 ⇒ 00:41:13.119 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, that’s 1 thing. Let’s see.
333 00:41:13.130 ⇒ 00:41:13.860 Hannah Wang: Okay.
334 00:41:14.301 ⇒ 00:41:17.830 Uttam Kumaran: This? Yeah, Miguel is taking this on
335 00:41:17.830 ⇒ 00:41:18.240 Hannah Wang: Okay.
336 00:41:19.520 ⇒ 00:41:22.071 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna move. I’m gonna just say,
337 00:41:24.750 ⇒ 00:41:30.139 Uttam Kumaran: what I’m going to do is let me
338 00:41:36.550 ⇒ 00:41:38.160 Uttam Kumaran: create related.
339 00:41:46.730 ⇒ 00:41:54.080 Uttam Kumaran: and I’m gonna assign this to Miguel. Well, I’m gonna put this in the AI team
340 00:41:54.930 ⇒ 00:42:06.130 Uttam Kumaran: and I’m gonna say, default ticket templates, I’m gonna say, post capabilities deck behind web flow
341 00:42:59.340 ⇒ 00:43:01.890 Uttam Kumaran: might as well do this as a
342 00:43:02.090 ⇒ 00:43:13.609 Uttam Kumaran: brain forge salesperson. I want to send a link to a potential customer to access our deck
343 00:43:15.890 ⇒ 00:43:23.779 Uttam Kumaran: instead of a file because the file is too large and
344 00:43:24.910 ⇒ 00:43:30.829 Uttam Kumaran: we may want to start Brack, who is looking at links.
345 00:43:33.267 ⇒ 00:43:35.979 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. So I’m gonna say, Miguel.
346 00:43:36.570 ⇒ 00:43:38.769 Uttam Kumaran: Priority is high.
347 00:43:41.045 ⇒ 00:43:43.840 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, what’s this? Oh.
348 00:43:49.330 ⇒ 00:43:51.389 Uttam Kumaran: solid, great
349 00:43:51.970 ⇒ 00:43:54.419 Hannah Wang: So this one I’m gonna put as
350 00:43:55.960 ⇒ 00:44:01.550 Uttam Kumaran: Blocked blog redesign.
351 00:44:02.715 ⇒ 00:44:06.830 Uttam Kumaran: Anything to discuss here
352 00:44:08.690 ⇒ 00:44:09.169 Hannah Wang: Where it’s coming.
353 00:44:09.170 ⇒ 00:44:11.279 Hannah Wang: No, I think it’s ongoing. Yeah.
354 00:44:11.280 ⇒ 00:44:12.320 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.
355 00:44:13.181 ⇒ 00:44:16.349 Uttam Kumaran: I think. Yeah, we have the due date, as at the end of this week.
356 00:44:17.260 ⇒ 00:44:18.780 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s fine.
357 00:44:18.890 ⇒ 00:44:22.430 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, the default collaboration.
358 00:44:24.500 ⇒ 00:44:27.880 Uttam Kumaran: How do we feel about this right now?
359 00:44:29.014 ⇒ 00:44:37.840 Hannah Wang: I guess this is where, like the processes come into play. So this is the parent ticket. But you all the sub like. I guess my question is like.
360 00:44:38.130 ⇒ 00:44:48.529 Hannah Wang: should we leave the parent ticket in progress and move all the sub issues to where they’re supposed to be or like? There’s just so many tickets everywhere, like I just don’t know how to track
361 00:44:48.850 ⇒ 00:44:57.259 Uttam Kumaran: So one item you can do here is definitely turn off sub issues. And I’m I’ll actually probably just save this as the default view what I’m looking at
362 00:44:57.490 ⇒ 00:44:57.900 Hannah Wang: Okay.
363 00:44:58.170 ⇒ 00:45:07.360 Uttam Kumaran: So that way. If you open this you shouldn’t see anything. The second piece. Yes, so you can go in here, and I would leave this in progress as long as this whole thing
364 00:45:07.540 ⇒ 00:45:08.010 Hannah Wang: Yes.
365 00:45:08.010 ⇒ 00:45:10.840 Uttam Kumaran: One thing we could do moving forward is.
366 00:45:11.010 ⇒ 00:45:13.309 Uttam Kumaran: if if this is like too much
367 00:45:13.600 ⇒ 00:45:16.969 Hannah Wang: We could consider this being a project itself
368 00:45:17.620 ⇒ 00:45:20.960 Uttam Kumaran: Like we don’t have.
369 00:45:21.160 ⇒ 00:45:30.379 Uttam Kumaran: We don’t have, we have? Well, I guess we technically, we talked a little bit about this. We’re like this could be a project with several issues in it at the moment we just we did at this level.
370 00:45:30.490 ⇒ 00:45:33.270 Uttam Kumaran: If we feel like, for example.
371 00:45:33.390 ⇒ 00:45:35.599 Uttam Kumaran: if we feel like this is gonna take
372 00:45:36.150 ⇒ 00:45:42.249 Uttam Kumaran: every every cycle is, gonna take more than if every collaboration is, gonna take more than a few weeks.
373 00:45:42.710 ⇒ 00:45:44.800 Uttam Kumaran: then we should move into a project.
374 00:45:44.940 ⇒ 00:45:55.349 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe maybe we can consider that, for when we do a retro on like how we want to change linear. But for now yes, you can just keep crossing things off here.
375 00:45:56.570 ⇒ 00:45:59.200 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
376 00:46:01.020 ⇒ 00:46:17.670 Hannah Wang: Okay. But if okay, and then that kind of bleeds into like my next question. So, for example, like 1 0, 9 design asset for slide deck like, yeah, that’s I need you to provide the requirements, so should I keep it assigned to myself. But just tag you in it like I did, or assign it to you.
377 00:46:19.120 ⇒ 00:46:28.349 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so this is a good piece of like, I think, having it blocked
378 00:46:28.940 ⇒ 00:46:31.149 Uttam Kumaran: is actually a good way of doing it.
379 00:46:31.723 ⇒ 00:46:37.550 Uttam Kumaran: Because what we will do here is if I go ahead and and look at the sub issues, then I will see what’s blocked here.
380 00:46:37.680 ⇒ 00:46:38.390 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
381 00:46:38.390 ⇒ 00:46:42.149 Uttam Kumaran: And so I think it’s actually fine to say that, like these are blocked
382 00:46:42.910 ⇒ 00:46:43.469 Hannah Wang: And leave it
383 00:46:43.470 ⇒ 00:46:43.800 Uttam Kumaran: Slide.
384 00:46:43.800 ⇒ 00:46:44.570 Hannah Wang: To me
385 00:46:44.570 ⇒ 00:46:52.469 Uttam Kumaran: And leave it like this because I leave it assigned to you to execute and blocked here, for, like me, the Pm. To make sure you have the requirements. Yeah.
386 00:46:52.470 ⇒ 00:46:55.450 Hannah Wang: Okay, yeah, like in the comment, just tag it or something.
387 00:46:55.450 ⇒ 00:46:56.250 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s fine.
388 00:46:56.250 ⇒ 00:46:57.510 Hannah Wang: Like, I, yeah, okay.
389 00:46:58.720 ⇒ 00:47:06.152 Uttam Kumaran: Because what I’m doing is I’m going through all clients and basically looking at like what’s blocked or where I’m getting tagged
390 00:47:07.130 ⇒ 00:47:16.050 Uttam Kumaran: and just ping me because I have an inbox here where I’m getting tagged on a bunch of stuff, so I’ll start to try to like, look through these or take my name off stuff as as I as I get through things
391 00:47:18.790 ⇒ 00:47:19.470 Hannah Wang: Okay?
392 00:47:19.980 ⇒ 00:47:33.520 Hannah Wang: Yeah. So for default, I mean, we have like a couple of things lined up. I don’t know, Ryan, if you want to chime in. But we do have like content that we can start pushing out. I think there’s a thread somewhere. But
393 00:47:33.820 ⇒ 00:47:35.419 Hannah Wang: yeah, Ryan, you can take it away
394 00:47:36.650 ⇒ 00:47:43.690 Ryan Brosas: Yeah, I think the second sequence that we want to push is the what they call
395 00:47:47.216 ⇒ 00:47:56.080 Ryan Brosas: the data driven. Gtm, strategy post. I think that’s the next sequence of next to announcement.
396 00:47:56.820 ⇒ 00:48:12.180 Ryan Brosas: And yeah, we made a car so content for this content, we wanted this to be pushed on 24, th or 25.th But we are, you know, we are delete one day
397 00:48:12.865 ⇒ 00:48:21.600 Ryan Brosas: we want this to put push, or we want to, you know. We want to reduce any sequence on the the actual, you know.
398 00:48:21.760 ⇒ 00:48:28.330 Ryan Brosas: sequence or content, sequence or default or other. You know, partnership.
399 00:48:29.900 ⇒ 00:48:36.530 Ryan Brosas: because we have, like a 5 sequence here, which is like persist announcement.
400 00:48:36.660 ⇒ 00:48:43.560 Ryan Brosas: and something. Next is the data driven post. And 3rd will be the Speaker Spotlight.
401 00:48:44.030 ⇒ 00:48:52.170 Ryan Brosas: and next is before the webinar and and the final content, which is the date of webinar.
402 00:48:52.920 ⇒ 00:48:58.689 Ryan Brosas: Do we need to, you know, reduce the sequence to 4, or to you know what? Only 3.
403 00:48:59.430 ⇒ 00:49:01.400 Ryan Brosas: So it’s kind of viable
404 00:49:03.730 ⇒ 00:49:04.110 Uttam Kumaran: I guess.
405 00:49:05.460 ⇒ 00:49:13.249 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess one thing is, it would be helpful to have these here as
406 00:49:13.610 ⇒ 00:49:18.220 Uttam Kumaran: as subtasks, or at least like basically subtasks here, which is like.
407 00:49:19.051 ⇒ 00:49:22.939 Uttam Kumaran: the march 24th post march 27th post.
408 00:49:24.780 ⇒ 00:49:29.419 Uttam Kumaran: Right be pre webinar, post, webinar day post, as subtasks
409 00:49:30.280 ⇒ 00:49:30.920 Ryan Brosas: Okay.
410 00:49:31.540 ⇒ 00:49:32.219 Hannah Wang: Yeah, like, mark.
411 00:49:32.220 ⇒ 00:49:32.670 Ryan Brosas: 60,
412 00:49:32.670 ⇒ 00:49:35.130 Hannah Wang: For, for example, like, that’s the template
413 00:49:35.240 ⇒ 00:49:38.719 Hannah Wang: version of it. But you can just like create like, I created design asset, too.
414 00:49:38.720 ⇒ 00:49:39.860 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly.
415 00:49:39.860 ⇒ 00:49:41.289 Hannah Wang: So you can do the same thing
416 00:49:42.810 ⇒ 00:49:45.790 Uttam Kumaran: So can you move, Ryan, each of these to
417 00:49:46.570 ⇒ 00:49:48.780 Uttam Kumaran: like a single sub issue here
418 00:49:49.720 ⇒ 00:49:50.600 Ryan Brosas: Oh, sure! Sure! Sure
419 00:49:50.820 ⇒ 00:49:55.119 Uttam Kumaran: You don’t have to move the content, but at least I want to be able to cross it off
420 00:49:55.340 ⇒ 00:50:00.060 Uttam Kumaran: ideally. You can move, you can move the content or keep it linked here. Whatever
421 00:50:01.270 ⇒ 00:50:02.070 Ryan Brosas: Okay. Sure.
422 00:50:03.020 ⇒ 00:50:03.740 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
423 00:50:04.160 ⇒ 00:50:09.498 Uttam Kumaran: And then your question was about like I, I feel like I I read through these, I feel like,
424 00:50:11.220 ⇒ 00:50:12.750 Uttam Kumaran: I feel like this is fine.
425 00:50:17.100 ⇒ 00:50:21.489 Hannah Wang: Maybe accept the we’re keeping the small one. Because I remember you said
426 00:50:22.100 ⇒ 00:50:30.180 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I feel like, oh, so I guess your question is like for me to go. Yeah, I guess, did. We didn’t post this one. We didn’t post this one yet
427 00:50:30.550 ⇒ 00:50:31.240 Hannah Wang: No.
428 00:50:31.660 ⇒ 00:50:38.120 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, so this is what we’re gonna well, so I guess is the question like, we’re gonna we’re waiting to do this for a copy review. Basically.
429 00:50:40.861 ⇒ 00:50:52.309 Hannah Wang: Yeah, like for your final review of both the copy and the con, the design. And then the next question is always Ryan gonna post on your behalf. Okay.
430 00:50:52.310 ⇒ 00:50:54.659 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, definitely post on my behalf.
431 00:50:54.940 ⇒ 00:50:58.242 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t mind. I think maybe I think let’s just
432 00:50:58.810 ⇒ 00:51:03.339 Uttam Kumaran: we can. Just. I’ll just do a quick review now and then. I think we can ship it.
433 00:51:50.440 ⇒ 00:51:51.330 Ryan Brosas: Oh!
434 00:51:53.890 ⇒ 00:51:54.839 Ryan Brosas: Morning on it
435 00:52:05.320 ⇒ 00:52:11.670 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I’m fine with this. Yeah, this I don’t know. I I think, Ryan, you’re just trying to create some urgency. So that’s fine like, that’s okay.
436 00:52:13.020 ⇒ 00:52:20.600 Hannah Wang: And then in the in the zoom chat, I link the figma design. So it’s basically the same thing as what the copy is. But if you want to take a look.
437 00:52:20.730 ⇒ 00:52:21.360 Uttam Kumaran: Great
438 00:52:21.360 ⇒ 00:52:22.430 Hannah Wang: Real quickly.
439 00:52:24.990 ⇒ 00:52:26.510 Hannah Wang: Yeah, that’s what it is.
440 00:52:26.510 ⇒ 00:52:28.350 Uttam Kumaran: Great. Let’s go.
441 00:52:29.500 ⇒ 00:52:31.990 Uttam Kumaran: Nice job, guys. This is sick.
442 00:52:37.460 ⇒ 00:52:38.260 Uttam Kumaran: Wow!
443 00:52:39.260 ⇒ 00:52:41.460 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I’m so happy! This is awesome.
444 00:52:41.460 ⇒ 00:52:42.910 Hannah Wang: Hmm nice
445 00:52:44.770 ⇒ 00:52:47.729 Uttam Kumaran: I wonder if we should carry this here too.
446 00:52:47.730 ⇒ 00:52:50.149 Hannah Wang: Throughout. Sure, that’s an easy one.
447 00:52:59.530 ⇒ 00:53:01.879 Uttam Kumaran: And then also, like maybe put
448 00:53:03.190 ⇒ 00:53:06.670 Uttam Kumaran: maybe move. This set to the end as well
449 00:53:06.870 ⇒ 00:53:08.360 Hannah Wang: Okay, the date and the
450 00:53:08.360 ⇒ 00:53:09.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but they
451 00:53:09.070 ⇒ 00:53:09.810 Hannah Wang: I don’t
452 00:53:09.810 ⇒ 00:53:10.410 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
453 00:53:17.150 ⇒ 00:53:20.379 Uttam Kumaran: cool. Okay, I’m happy. This is dope. Yeah, let’s go for it.
454 00:53:21.155 ⇒ 00:53:27.185 Hannah Wang: While you’re on the figma. Do you wanna take a look at the web banner and the linkedin
455 00:53:27.520 ⇒ 00:53:28.030 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
456 00:53:28.030 ⇒ 00:53:29.559 Hannah Wang: Like takeover, I guess.
457 00:53:35.350 ⇒ 00:53:39.700 Uttam Kumaran: I think we should use. Do use this space
458 00:53:41.860 ⇒ 00:53:43.329 Hannah Wang: That’s where your face is, though.
459 00:53:43.480 ⇒ 00:53:44.809 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, right here.
460 00:53:46.120 ⇒ 00:53:46.710 Hannah Wang: If you go on
461 00:53:46.710 ⇒ 00:53:49.590 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, oh, on Linkedin. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. You’re right.
462 00:53:53.000 ⇒ 00:53:58.500 Hannah Wang: It is a bit crowded, so if some, if you want to take something out like you can let me know. But
463 00:54:03.780 ⇒ 00:54:07.129 Uttam Kumaran: How far is my face covering us
464 00:54:08.550 ⇒ 00:54:12.959 Hannah Wang: I guess it’s not. I guess it’s tiny. I could move things over
465 00:54:12.960 ⇒ 00:54:17.549 Uttam Kumaran: We have like this sort of whole area. Let’s just see, I’m gonna just compare it.
466 00:54:24.760 ⇒ 00:54:27.370 Uttam Kumaran: Where was I over here? Okay.
467 00:54:28.220 ⇒ 00:54:31.876 Uttam Kumaran: So so I’m just gonna put this here just to see it. Yeah, I think,
468 00:54:33.570 ⇒ 00:54:38.759 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I think if we can do something with this base, basically, I think we should just
469 00:54:41.210 ⇒ 00:54:46.430 Uttam Kumaran: turn this into one line that basically extend this here and then make these way bigger
470 00:54:47.190 ⇒ 00:54:50.760 Hannah Wang: The date, and the same
471 00:54:52.840 ⇒ 00:54:57.529 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah, probably a lot of my feedback
472 00:54:58.370 ⇒ 00:55:04.920 Uttam Kumaran: is more on, just like, make the Cta like, make the Cta and like, if people people are gonna spend like
473 00:55:05.790 ⇒ 00:55:08.659 Uttam Kumaran: 200 300 ms looking at like
474 00:55:08.910 ⇒ 00:55:10.880 Uttam Kumaran: the header. I want them to be like
475 00:55:11.660 ⇒ 00:55:19.930 Uttam Kumaran: they they’re like, Oh, there’s a webinar cool if they read this, the sub header whatever. But like, I want this to be like Max Max
476 00:55:20.570 ⇒ 00:55:22.689 Hannah Wang: How about the Cta here? This one, too.
477 00:55:22.690 ⇒ 00:55:25.450 Uttam Kumaran: So where did they end up going like on? So it’s like
478 00:55:25.980 ⇒ 00:55:26.510 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
479 00:55:26.510 ⇒ 00:55:34.220 Uttam Kumaran: This is, I guess, like if they go to, if they go to my Linkedin, should I like, modify
480 00:55:34.220 ⇒ 00:55:37.130 Hannah Wang: You can make like a pinned like
481 00:55:37.770 ⇒ 00:55:41.609 Hannah Wang: featured like feature. The announcement post
482 00:55:42.270 ⇒ 00:55:44.167 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, okay.
483 00:55:44.800 ⇒ 00:55:46.530 Hannah Wang: That one right there. Yeah.
484 00:55:47.180 ⇒ 00:55:52.830 Hannah Wang: feature on top of profile. Yep. And then maybe you can get rid of some of the ones that aren’t applicable anymore.
485 00:55:53.890 ⇒ 00:55:54.700 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fair.
486 00:55:56.193 ⇒ 00:55:57.440 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So
487 00:56:02.700 ⇒ 00:56:04.020 Uttam Kumaran: remove.
488 00:56:07.720 ⇒ 00:56:09.030 Uttam Kumaran: remove.
489 00:56:11.740 ⇒ 00:56:12.890 Uttam Kumaran: Remove.
490 00:56:18.890 ⇒ 00:56:21.000 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, how about this?
491 00:56:27.180 ⇒ 00:56:29.470 Uttam Kumaran: How can I like view it from
492 00:56:31.280 ⇒ 00:56:35.768 Hannah Wang: Someone else’s point of view. I forgot
493 00:56:36.330 ⇒ 00:56:37.740 Uttam Kumaran: Do you want to just go on there, on.
494 00:56:37.740 ⇒ 00:56:38.260 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah.
495 00:56:38.260 ⇒ 00:56:39.829 Uttam Kumaran: Just tell me what it looks like
496 00:56:39.830 ⇒ 00:56:40.365 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
497 00:56:48.620 ⇒ 00:56:49.900 Hannah Wang: hold on a second.
498 00:56:54.140 ⇒ 00:57:04.510 Hannah Wang: Okay, it basically looks like what you have except without the analytics section.
499 00:57:07.410 ⇒ 00:57:10.160 Hannah Wang: Or you can just visit your link on incognito.
500 00:57:11.020 ⇒ 00:57:14.059 Hannah Wang: Oh, wait! I think you need to be logged in, though. Never mind.
501 00:57:15.840 ⇒ 00:57:18.579 Hannah Wang: Yeah, it. Yeah. It looks like yours, except
502 00:57:18.580 ⇒ 00:57:19.370 Uttam Kumaran: This.
503 00:57:19.370 ⇒ 00:57:19.800 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
504 00:57:19.800 ⇒ 00:57:20.370 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
505 00:57:24.150 ⇒ 00:57:28.979 Uttam Kumaran: okay, I feel like that’s fine.
506 00:57:29.320 ⇒ 00:57:31.000 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, Ryan. What do you think.
507 00:57:38.920 ⇒ 00:57:39.950 Uttam Kumaran: Ryan? You there
508 00:57:40.490 ⇒ 00:57:45.319 Ryan Brosas: Yeah, yeah, I’m still moving some stuff. Let me check
509 00:57:46.360 ⇒ 00:57:50.879 Uttam Kumaran: I think. Let me know what you think about sign up below, or if we should make it like
510 00:57:52.290 ⇒ 00:57:53.090 Uttam Kumaran: DM, me.
511 00:57:53.380 ⇒ 00:57:53.670 Ryan Brosas: Vic
512 00:57:56.100 ⇒ 00:57:58.049 Uttam Kumaran: See or see featured, post
513 00:57:58.750 ⇒ 00:58:05.680 Ryan Brosas: Oh, yeah, yeah. I think that’s much more better the see feature, both.
514 00:58:06.380 ⇒ 00:58:07.390 Ryan Brosas: Okay.
515 00:58:09.500 ⇒ 00:58:19.390 Ryan Brosas: Because when they scroll down they will just click the post and then look for the registration
516 00:58:46.030 ⇒ 00:58:46.590 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
517 00:59:03.760 ⇒ 00:59:12.800 Hannah Wang: yeah. And this kind of leads into like, the next question is because we have so many promotions going on. I don’t know how you want to like stagger posting.
518 00:59:13.340 ⇒ 00:59:14.260 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
519 00:59:14.560 ⇒ 00:59:17.240 Uttam Kumaran: So this is where, like I kind of.
520 00:59:17.710 ⇒ 00:59:24.060 Uttam Kumaran: So the I think, part of the way I I sort of want to look at this is.
521 00:59:24.210 ⇒ 00:59:26.300 Uttam Kumaran: I think there is like a
522 00:59:26.880 ⇒ 00:59:31.300 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. Is there like a calendar view, or something that we could look at here?
523 00:59:56.090 ⇒ 01:00:01.019 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t know if I can see it in any other view like here. I can sort of see it
524 01:00:01.310 ⇒ 01:00:03.659 Uttam Kumaran: individually, I guess. Here I can.
525 01:00:08.960 ⇒ 01:00:12.079 Uttam Kumaran: This is the only place I can see like timeline.
526 01:00:16.650 ⇒ 01:00:20.912 Hannah Wang: To me. That’s even more reason to change all of it to projects
527 01:00:21.470 ⇒ 01:00:22.190 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
528 01:00:22.190 ⇒ 01:00:22.760 Hannah Wang: Appreciate.
529 01:00:22.760 ⇒ 01:00:23.550 Hannah Wang: That’s great.
530 01:00:23.870 ⇒ 01:00:25.019 Uttam Kumaran: I agree.
531 01:00:26.770 ⇒ 01:00:34.720 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I this is where I think maybe, Ryan, I need you to coordinate, because, you know, when we’re gonna post on the other days we should be posting about the other thing
532 01:00:37.650 ⇒ 01:00:45.130 Hannah Wang: So do you want to like, stagger it, or cause Ryan also proposed like, Oh, morning, do default night. Do operate operating.
533 01:00:45.703 ⇒ 01:00:48.639 Hannah Wang: But do you want to do it like staggered days
534 01:00:49.120 ⇒ 01:00:51.569 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think staggering days is fine.
535 01:00:51.860 ⇒ 01:00:52.540 Hannah Wang: Okay.
536 01:00:54.630 ⇒ 01:00:56.180 Uttam Kumaran: What do you think, Ryan?
537 01:00:57.522 ⇒ 01:01:06.370 Ryan Brosas: Yeah, I think. That’s fine. I can, just, you know, follow those those up on the channel on marketing
538 01:01:06.370 ⇒ 01:01:09.090 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so we have the
539 01:01:11.110 ⇒ 01:01:13.040 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s why we have this this one.
540 01:01:13.040 ⇒ 01:01:16.460 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, right? So if we if we consider this as
541 01:01:16.460 ⇒ 01:01:17.609 Ryan Brosas: So set.
542 01:01:18.334 ⇒ 01:01:21.650 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s say this one, this one as like.
543 01:01:26.500 ⇒ 01:01:28.700 Uttam Kumaran: And then what’s the date? Okay?
544 01:01:31.170 ⇒ 01:01:35.289 Uttam Kumaran: April 10, th and then April
545 01:01:37.960 ⇒ 01:01:41.700 Hannah Wang: And then when is the webinar so
546 01:01:41.930 ⇒ 01:01:43.100 Uttam Kumaran: April 3, rd
547 01:01:43.420 ⇒ 01:01:45.230 Hannah Wang: Yeah. Next. Thursday.
548 01:01:45.480 ⇒ 01:01:46.140 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
549 01:01:47.770 ⇒ 01:01:49.350 Hannah Wang: Yeah, there’s a lot going on
550 01:01:50.470 ⇒ 01:01:53.020 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. So let’s talk about for the operating app.
551 01:01:53.450 ⇒ 01:01:55.419 Uttam Kumaran: Also how we want to do this.
552 01:01:56.207 ⇒ 01:01:59.060 Uttam Kumaran: So this is where we don’t have like a
553 01:01:59.720 ⇒ 01:02:02.579 Uttam Kumaran: don’t we need to kind of come up with like our timeline
554 01:02:04.140 ⇒ 01:02:09.670 Hannah Wang: Yeah, Ryan Ryan came up with like Whatchama call like a schedule
555 01:02:09.670 ⇒ 01:02:10.320 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
556 01:02:10.546 ⇒ 01:02:12.580 Hannah Wang: Notion. So, Ryan, if you want to, I think
557 01:02:12.860 ⇒ 01:02:17.539 Hannah Wang: I’m just gonna hammer this in everyone’s mind like, keep everything Updated on linear cause.
558 01:02:18.020 ⇒ 01:02:25.984 Hannah Wang: It’s easy to track. So, Ryan, if you could put everything in linear and kind of like make more sub issues and stuff like that, that’d be super helpful
559 01:02:26.250 ⇒ 01:02:26.600 Uttam Kumaran: Totally.
560 01:02:26.600 ⇒ 01:02:27.340 Ryan Brosas: Agree.
561 01:02:27.500 ⇒ 01:02:35.309 Ryan Brosas: Yeah, I’m working on it now. I’m already doing the default. Then next would be the speak so, and operating
562 01:02:36.430 ⇒ 01:02:43.680 Hannah Wang: Yeah. But anyway, Ryan came up with, like the timeline of all this posting and stuff like that. So
563 01:02:43.680 ⇒ 01:02:45.010 Uttam Kumaran: Awesome, cool.
564 01:02:45.560 ⇒ 01:02:54.569 Uttam Kumaran: and like the Linkedin, like I, I think, like the analytics are good, like we’re we get a lot of likes right? Ryan on the on the other stuff, and like people are signing up. So
565 01:02:54.680 ⇒ 01:03:00.209 Uttam Kumaran: let’s push it like I think this is good. This is saving me from my failure of writing on Linkedin so
566 01:03:00.944 ⇒ 01:03:01.679 Ryan Brosas: But
567 01:03:01.680 ⇒ 01:03:03.960 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s let’s keep doing this. This is great
568 01:03:04.200 ⇒ 01:03:06.359 Hannah Wang: It’s right there in the comments at the bottom
569 01:03:07.620 ⇒ 01:03:08.420 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay.
570 01:03:08.420 ⇒ 01:03:08.870 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
571 01:03:08.880 ⇒ 01:03:09.560 Ryan Brosas: 11
572 01:03:09.760 ⇒ 01:03:13.000 Uttam Kumaran: So let me let me just give you the. Let me just take a look at this real quick.
573 01:03:15.380 ⇒ 01:03:17.519 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So this we should ship
574 01:03:18.590 ⇒ 01:03:22.560 Uttam Kumaran: anytime. Operating App. We’re covering practical stuff.
575 01:03:31.970 ⇒ 01:03:33.219 Uttam Kumaran: I like this
576 01:03:34.250 ⇒ 01:03:36.959 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I like the last one, too. Last line
577 01:05:26.690 ⇒ 01:05:28.279 Uttam Kumaran: Alright cool. I’m good with this.
578 01:05:30.681 ⇒ 01:05:32.788 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m good with that.
579 01:05:34.110 ⇒ 01:05:36.500 Uttam Kumaran: I think, Ryan, it’s up to you to just pick the dates.
580 01:05:38.760 ⇒ 01:05:42.069 Uttam Kumaran: Let me just. I’m just gonna rip, just gonna rip through all these right now.
581 01:05:47.190 ⇒ 01:05:48.830 Uttam Kumaran: Did everyone have lunch yet?
582 01:05:49.100 ⇒ 01:05:52.089 Uttam Kumaran: Like, who’s wait? Oh, Hannah, you’re having! You’re having breakfast
583 01:05:53.520 ⇒ 01:05:55.730 Hannah Wang: Me. Oh, food! Oh, I’m I’m chilling.
584 01:05:55.910 ⇒ 01:05:56.580 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
585 01:05:57.420 ⇒ 01:05:58.330 Uttam Kumaran: To eat.
586 01:05:58.770 ⇒ 01:05:59.350 Hannah Wang: You should
587 01:06:02.800 ⇒ 01:06:04.829 Uttam Kumaran: Been testing some cool.
588 01:06:05.870 ⇒ 01:06:09.199 Uttam Kumaran: We did the bin testing on the last one, right? So
589 01:06:17.450 ⇒ 01:06:18.920 Uttam Kumaran: we’re always.
590 01:06:56.750 ⇒ 01:07:00.990 Uttam Kumaran: I think I would just say this again.
591 01:07:04.880 ⇒ 01:07:06.679 Uttam Kumaran: but you can just
592 01:07:08.460 ⇒ 01:07:09.120 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.
593 01:07:22.130 ⇒ 01:07:24.130 Uttam Kumaran: did they give us an agenda or no
594 01:07:27.880 ⇒ 01:07:30.150 Hannah Wang: I don’t think so.
595 01:07:34.505 ⇒ 01:07:37.910 Ryan Brosas: I just visit to the website the Luma.
596 01:07:39.240 ⇒ 01:07:40.449 Ryan Brosas: It’s like it
597 01:07:45.840 ⇒ 01:07:49.890 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah, there’s stuff on the Luma link.
598 01:07:52.240 ⇒ 01:07:53.450 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, what does Illuma say?
599 01:07:54.790 ⇒ 01:07:58.169 Hannah Wang: A lot. Let me just send it to you.
600 01:07:58.170 ⇒ 01:07:58.960 Uttam Kumaran: Shit. Okay. Here.
601 01:08:01.690 ⇒ 01:08:02.820 Hannah Wang: I sent it on zoom
602 01:08:05.350 ⇒ 01:08:10.379 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice. Okay? So we’re basically, I’m I’m basically, I basically nailed it with like what we’re doing.
603 01:08:23.679 ⇒ 01:08:24.399 Ryan Brosas: Hey?
604 01:08:27.049 ⇒ 01:08:28.329 Ryan Brosas: Not really
605 01:08:31.371 ⇒ 01:08:36.970 Uttam Kumaran: Feature trends and consulting operational excellence harnessing AI revolution
606 01:08:42.069 ⇒ 01:08:42.969 Ryan Brosas: And
607 01:08:46.140 ⇒ 01:08:48.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, our agenda is fine. Fuck it, whatever
608 01:08:49.130 ⇒ 01:08:52.279 Uttam Kumaran: I’m good with this. DM, me, if you want the link
609 01:09:23.380 ⇒ 01:09:26.519 Hannah Wang: Should we even have a Speaker spotlight post for this one? Because
610 01:09:26.529 ⇒ 01:09:30.519 Uttam Kumaran: I think I think we should do. You should do one on Lori
611 01:09:30.520 ⇒ 01:09:31.790 Hannah Wang: Laurie. Yeah.
612 01:09:31.790 ⇒ 01:09:32.470 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
613 01:09:33.500 ⇒ 01:09:37.270 Uttam Kumaran: Do you want to do that? Brian.
614 01:09:37.720 ⇒ 01:09:43.750 Ryan Brosas: Yeah, yeah, I’ll be checking on his profile later up and check the other stuff
615 01:09:48.779 ⇒ 01:09:53.289 Hannah Wang: Yeah. And for default, we’re doing one scheduled tomorrow for Caitlin.
616 01:09:53.630 ⇒ 01:09:54.640 Hannah Wang: Okay? Cool
617 01:10:41.510 ⇒ 01:10:42.250 Uttam Kumaran: Cool
618 01:10:56.190 ⇒ 01:11:01.740 Uttam Kumaran: and this. So so to give you guys a sense, I mean, I’m
619 01:11:01.870 ⇒ 01:11:06.469 Uttam Kumaran: this, the wine place is actually really nice. I I go there with my! I’ve been there with my girlfriend bunch of times
620 01:11:06.470 ⇒ 01:11:07.680 Hannah Wang: Oh, nice!
621 01:11:07.680 ⇒ 01:11:13.497 Uttam Kumaran: It’s really nice. If you guys, if you guys visit well, we should go there. Which I was like, I literally was like.
622 01:11:14.230 ⇒ 01:11:16.540 Uttam Kumaran: guess what I’m talking at fucking.
623 01:11:17.020 ⇒ 01:11:22.349 Uttam Kumaran: which is insane. It’s just like a South African wine like Bar
624 01:11:22.350 ⇒ 01:11:23.330 Hannah Wang: Oh, cool!
625 01:11:23.330 ⇒ 01:11:27.310 Uttam Kumaran: Kind of looks like this inside, like it’s just this room.
626 01:11:27.580 ⇒ 01:11:37.729 Uttam Kumaran: but it’s like kind of underground, like it’s just off the side of the street. Here you walk in and it goes down. And then you’re in sort of like a bottle room cellar. And it’s literally just this area.
627 01:11:38.222 ⇒ 01:11:54.360 Uttam Kumaran: like really great South African wines and South African wine. And I’ve just been getting really into wine. It’s it’s because it doesn’t give me that much of a hangover anymore. But it’s like kind of salty because they grow it right along the the water. The Pacific
628 01:11:55.046 ⇒ 01:11:58.369 Uttam Kumaran: and it has a lot of that like salt from the ocean.
629 01:11:58.710 ⇒ 01:12:02.709 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, I’ve been here. But I’ve been here a bunch of times. I really, this place is really really nice.
630 01:12:02.710 ⇒ 01:12:03.450 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
631 01:12:04.654 ⇒ 01:12:11.539 Uttam Kumaran: But this is where. So yeah, I’ll try to take pictures and stuff. Oh, I mean, Hannah, you should be here to to take pictures like
632 01:12:11.540 ⇒ 01:12:14.182 Hannah Wang: I know, dude. I can be like
633 01:12:14.560 ⇒ 01:12:16.374 Uttam Kumaran: Wait no way
634 01:12:17.230 ⇒ 01:12:20.029 Hannah Wang: Can you fly me in? Oh, God!
635 01:12:20.030 ⇒ 01:12:21.820 Uttam Kumaran: Let me think about actually
636 01:12:23.700 ⇒ 01:12:25.440 Hannah Wang: Kind of soon am I like
637 01:12:25.440 ⇒ 01:12:25.980 Uttam Kumaran: When is it?
638 01:12:25.980 ⇒ 01:12:29.750 Hannah Wang: For for 10,
639 01:12:31.100 ⇒ 01:12:33.689 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, shit. Yeah, it is like, right? Then.
640 01:12:41.200 ⇒ 01:12:43.804 Hannah Wang: I mean vixel cons in person, too. Right
641 01:12:44.130 ⇒ 01:12:46.040 Uttam Kumaran: Icon is in person.
642 01:12:46.575 ⇒ 01:12:50.230 Uttam Kumaran: Let me even. Maybe Vixelcon is like a better option.
643 01:12:50.840 ⇒ 01:12:54.039 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I’ll think about it. But yeah, damn okay. I should have thought about that
644 01:12:54.340 ⇒ 01:13:00.989 Hannah Wang: No worries. Yeah. I mean, I got like I upgraded my gear. So you can also bring amber, too. What the heck she’s probably better than
645 01:13:01.150 ⇒ 01:13:02.250 Hannah Wang: better than me.
646 01:13:02.250 ⇒ 01:13:11.269 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I know I’m trying to be. I don’t. It’s like not that I have a choice. I just don’t have money, so I’m trying to figure out what we could do. But okay, cool. I’ll I’ll
647 01:13:11.420 ⇒ 01:13:15.310 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll ask. I’ll ask Lori well, what I can. Let me ask Lori if he’s
648 01:13:15.750 ⇒ 01:13:18.719 Uttam Kumaran: getting photographer. If not, maybe we can, bill on that
649 01:13:18.720 ⇒ 01:13:21.070 Hannah Wang: Oh, okay.
650 01:13:54.950 ⇒ 01:13:56.410 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
651 01:14:44.150 ⇒ 01:14:50.410 Uttam Kumaran: okay, okay, I’m fine with all these, yeah, feel free to just make the dates. And then if you want to add those to linear. That’s perfect.
652 01:14:52.790 ⇒ 01:14:55.980 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I guess, handle
653 01:14:55.980 ⇒ 01:14:57.220 Hannah Wang: And then I’ll create the designs
654 01:14:57.220 ⇒ 01:14:58.779 Uttam Kumaran: Perfect. Yeah, yeah.
655 01:14:59.120 ⇒ 01:15:01.239 Uttam Kumaran: So I think this one, I’m gonna
656 01:15:01.530 ⇒ 01:15:03.269 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just going to consider done.
657 01:15:07.660 ⇒ 01:15:09.639 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna consider this done.
658 01:15:11.750 ⇒ 01:15:18.640 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna consider this? Rs to do.
659 01:15:18.910 ⇒ 01:15:21.600 Uttam Kumaran: Hello, yeah.
660 01:15:22.540 ⇒ 01:15:28.699 Hannah Wang: Do you wanna change the banner for all promotions to like the Linkedin banners
661 01:15:30.830 ⇒ 01:15:33.769 Uttam Kumaran: I would like to at least have one going all the time
662 01:15:33.770 ⇒ 01:15:34.150 Hannah Wang: Okay.
663 01:15:36.710 ⇒ 01:15:41.130 Hannah Wang: Do you prefer it on your Linkedin or the company? Linkedin?
664 01:15:42.720 ⇒ 01:15:44.809 Hannah Wang: Probably yours is better. We’re
665 01:15:46.800 ⇒ 01:15:49.590 Uttam Kumaran: I would just put it as many places as we can
666 01:15:49.590 ⇒ 01:15:50.310 Hannah Wang: Okay.
667 01:15:51.060 ⇒ 01:15:51.670 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
668 01:15:52.030 ⇒ 01:15:55.909 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I mean, cause I, we have the structure down from default. So I can just like
669 01:15:56.050 ⇒ 01:15:58.299 Hannah Wang: change the copy and stuff
670 01:15:58.300 ⇒ 01:15:58.880 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
671 01:15:59.110 ⇒ 01:15:59.660 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
672 01:16:00.040 ⇒ 01:16:04.070 Uttam Kumaran: And then, okay, so this is to do. Let’s talk about Vixelcon.
673 01:16:05.890 ⇒ 01:16:09.039 Hannah Wang: Right then, yeah, so I think.
674 01:16:09.040 ⇒ 01:16:12.079 Uttam Kumaran: So this one is, I think, a little bit more involved, right?
675 01:16:12.970 ⇒ 01:16:15.520 Hannah Wang: Yeah, cause you have the video
676 01:16:15.520 ⇒ 01:16:17.649 Uttam Kumaran: So one item here is like the
677 01:16:19.047 ⇒ 01:16:20.162 Hannah Wang: 30, second,
678 01:16:20.720 ⇒ 01:16:22.380 Uttam Kumaran: 30. Second video.
679 01:16:37.690 ⇒ 01:16:39.560 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? And so these are all set.
680 01:16:45.570 ⇒ 01:16:52.880 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, the goal here is to drive people to the to the website. But they gave us they sent, they emailed and sent a bunch of info right
681 01:16:53.500 ⇒ 01:16:54.730 Hannah Wang: Yes, they emailed
682 01:16:55.070 ⇒ 01:17:04.380 Hannah Wang: you and I, you and me, like, branding guidelines. And also and within that email, there is like a link that we can use
683 01:17:05.054 ⇒ 01:17:08.510 Hannah Wang: just to like track who came from Brain Forge.
684 01:17:08.710 ⇒ 01:17:12.087 Hannah Wang: basically. And then in the Channel.
685 01:17:13.560 ⇒ 01:17:15.799 Hannah Wang: I don’t think much went on in there
686 01:17:15.920 ⇒ 01:17:21.119 Hannah Wang: the slack channel, except asking you for the video and stuff
687 01:17:21.540 ⇒ 01:17:22.180 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
688 01:17:22.780 ⇒ 01:17:25.069 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I think that’s about it.
689 01:17:25.660 ⇒ 01:17:33.590 Hannah Wang: Oh, and then Vishnu asked for like a a blurb about the operating event
690 01:17:37.020 ⇒ 01:17:38.410 Uttam Kumaran: Can you
691 01:17:38.610 ⇒ 01:17:41.079 Hannah Wang: Ryan, can you send that to Vishnu?
692 01:17:43.390 ⇒ 01:17:45.919 Uttam Kumaran: Whatever you want her to to send
693 01:17:48.400 ⇒ 01:17:52.220 Ryan Brosas: The blurb for operating
694 01:17:52.630 ⇒ 01:17:58.329 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, or if we can put a blurb somewhere.
695 01:17:59.597 ⇒ 01:18:01.570 Uttam Kumaran: This new operating
696 01:18:04.650 ⇒ 01:18:06.490 Uttam Kumaran: you mentioned here? Right? So
697 01:18:06.490 ⇒ 01:18:07.035 Hannah Wang: Yeah,
698 01:18:08.350 ⇒ 01:18:14.440 Uttam Kumaran: Ryan, do you want to just send her a blurb or
699 01:18:14.440 ⇒ 01:18:16.080 Ryan Brosas: Sure I hmm
700 01:18:16.080 ⇒ 01:18:23.090 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, I think one of the things for this. So the operating partnership, I think one thing we can just do here is we can actually change this to be like
701 01:18:23.420 ⇒ 01:18:25.060 Uttam Kumaran: operating
702 01:18:25.815 ⇒ 01:18:26.350 Ryan Brosas: Monday.
703 01:18:26.350 ⇒ 01:18:31.529 Uttam Kumaran: Like operating dot like what is it? What is the title? Again, of this thing?
704 01:18:31.530 ⇒ 01:18:33.030 Hannah Wang: App dot app
705 01:18:33.900 ⇒ 01:18:36.109 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess the luma what does it call it?
706 01:18:36.110 ⇒ 01:18:36.730 Hannah Wang: Oh!
707 01:18:37.180 ⇒ 01:19:02.850 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, rising to the challenge, operating rainforge rainforge rising to the challenge like fireside at promotion. Brief
708 01:19:03.850 ⇒ 01:19:05.650 Uttam Kumaran: like, I think this is fine
709 01:19:10.240 ⇒ 01:19:17.540 Uttam Kumaran: rising to the challenge. Fireside chat, promotion, brief April and
710 01:19:17.540 ⇒ 01:19:18.260 Hannah Wang: And
711 01:19:20.990 ⇒ 01:19:24.800 Uttam Kumaran: Cool that way like this one we can. I don’t think we can link.
712 01:19:25.020 ⇒ 01:19:33.030 Uttam Kumaran: We can just start to link. This will be like the documentation of anything, and then linear will be the tickets. And so we only have 2 places to go now for everything
713 01:19:33.570 ⇒ 01:19:34.210 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
714 01:19:34.210 ⇒ 01:19:38.359 Uttam Kumaran: So I think the only piece here is if you wanna.
715 01:19:38.770 ⇒ 01:19:46.139 Uttam Kumaran: I think if you want to just send like, this is what we’re Ryan. If you just want to send this division and say, this is what we’re about to post.
716 01:19:46.790 ⇒ 01:19:50.360 Uttam Kumaran: feel free to send and send a note wherever
717 01:19:51.466 ⇒ 01:19:53.754 Ryan Brosas: Sure, sure. I’ll be doing that later.
718 01:19:54.490 ⇒ 01:19:57.309 Ryan Brosas: just going to move some stuff to linear
719 01:19:57.910 ⇒ 01:20:05.540 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Then I’m just gonna put I’m gonna put it in the operating the app the f
720 01:20:06.130 ⇒ 01:20:15.770 Uttam Kumaran: thing. So send Blurb, do Vishnu and
721 01:20:19.410 ⇒ 01:20:20.820 Uttam Kumaran: okay, cool
722 01:20:21.970 ⇒ 01:20:26.149 Hannah Wang: Should this be in to do, or should it be in progress? Sorry? This is probably like Nitty
723 01:20:26.438 ⇒ 01:20:39.439 Uttam Kumaran: I think I think to do is fine in progress. I’ll like what will end up happening across all of our clients is that there’ll be a shit ton of stuff in progress when, in fact, we’re only actually working on like a few things.
724 01:20:39.660 ⇒ 01:20:43.160 Uttam Kumaran: and so I don’t want it to move like in progress. You mean, it’s like
725 01:20:43.600 ⇒ 01:20:45.890 Uttam Kumaran: we’re gonna close it like, it’s literally a night next up.
726 01:20:45.890 ⇒ 01:20:46.500 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
727 01:20:46.950 ⇒ 01:20:55.249 Hannah Wang: Then how about can we put all the parent tickets in to do? And then all the sub issues of that parent ticket we can just put in progress if we’re working on it.
728 01:20:57.000 ⇒ 01:21:03.339 Uttam Kumaran: That’s also fine. I I guess. Like, if we were to like our I ideal goal is to move these. All the projects
729 01:21:03.930 ⇒ 01:21:05.470 Hannah Wang: Right, right.
730 01:21:05.470 ⇒ 01:21:07.480 Uttam Kumaran: So I think we will.
731 01:21:07.700 ⇒ 01:21:14.209 Uttam Kumaran: I’m down, for I’m down for either. I kind of want it to be like, Hey, if someone comes to us and says, What is the marketing team looking at?
732 01:21:14.340 ⇒ 01:21:16.259 Uttam Kumaran: What is the marketing working on?
733 01:21:16.370 ⇒ 01:21:22.140 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s pretty clear that it’s like these are all the things we’re working on right. But there’s
734 01:21:22.140 ⇒ 01:21:24.340 Hannah Wang: But there is active. Right? Yeah.
735 01:21:24.340 ⇒ 01:21:24.930 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
736 01:21:24.930 ⇒ 01:21:30.290 Uttam Kumaran: it’s meaning you’re what you’re gonna what I think you’re saying is like, we’re this is never gonna close until the the day this is done.
737 01:21:30.620 ⇒ 01:21:31.430 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
738 01:21:34.680 ⇒ 01:21:38.959 Uttam Kumaran: Which I think it’s probably more of a function of like. We should just turn these into projects
739 01:21:38.960 ⇒ 01:21:41.189 Hannah Wang: Projects. Right? Yeah, we can do that. The next
740 01:21:41.330 ⇒ 01:21:42.950 Uttam Kumaran: I think we leave it for now. Yeah.
741 01:21:42.950 ⇒ 01:21:45.090 Hannah Wang: Yeah, okay.
742 01:21:45.570 ⇒ 01:21:48.611 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so this is fine.
743 01:21:52.030 ⇒ 01:21:53.988 Uttam Kumaran: yeah. So for this one,
744 01:21:54.610 ⇒ 01:21:55.290 Hannah Wang: Hmm.
745 01:21:58.330 ⇒ 01:22:03.550 Uttam Kumaran: What is the yeah. I’m trying to think like what the best
746 01:22:07.290 ⇒ 01:22:11.820 Hannah Wang: Because this is a diagram, right? So all the diagram work like
747 01:22:12.340 ⇒ 01:22:17.130 Uttam Kumaran: I think your point was good, which is like we shouldn’t work on the kit until we do a bunch more of these
748 01:22:17.870 ⇒ 01:22:19.740 Hannah Wang: Yeah. And I think Ann tagged you.
749 01:22:19.990 ⇒ 01:22:24.900 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and worked on one of these like, where is that one? The one that she worked on for
750 01:22:25.610 ⇒ 01:22:27.159 Uttam Kumaran: Eden or Javi?
751 01:22:27.310 ⇒ 01:22:37.094 Hannah Wang: Where I it’s in the if you go back to linear, I think it’s in block to, or needs review. Nope,
752 01:22:38.650 ⇒ 01:22:39.540 Hannah Wang: up.
753 01:22:41.190 ⇒ 01:22:42.260 Hannah Wang: Oh, okay?
754 01:22:44.180 ⇒ 01:22:47.930 Hannah Wang: Oh, oh, 1 38 underneath review.
755 01:22:48.460 ⇒ 01:22:53.019 Hannah Wang: Javi diagram redesign there. Yeah. That one
756 01:22:53.430 ⇒ 01:22:55.380 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, great, okay, solid
757 01:23:01.053 ⇒ 01:23:07.849 Uttam Kumaran: and then, was this the was there one for Eden or no? Okay, this is okay. So this is diagram redesign
758 01:23:09.460 ⇒ 01:23:12.200 Hannah Wang: There wasn’t 1 for Eden. As far as I know.
759 01:23:13.020 ⇒ 01:23:21.789 Uttam Kumaran: And at some point Robert sent like a diagram. Inspo, right?
760 01:23:32.520 ⇒ 01:23:34.119 Hannah Wang: Didn’t you send it
761 01:23:35.100 ⇒ 01:23:36.640 Uttam Kumaran: I may have sent it
762 01:23:36.640 ⇒ 01:23:40.400 Hannah Wang: I should have linked it. I linked it in diagram kit.
763 01:23:40.810 ⇒ 01:23:44.959 Hannah Wang: the parent ticket in linear. I put the Inspo link there
764 01:23:45.120 ⇒ 01:23:50.229 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, this is this is one, too, right? Like something like this.
765 01:23:54.010 ⇒ 01:23:55.689 Hannah Wang: Oh, I didn’t see that one
766 01:23:55.690 ⇒ 01:23:58.319 Uttam Kumaran: That’s an inspo. And then I think I had like.
767 01:24:09.520 ⇒ 01:24:16.510 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, alright cool. I guess you know, we’re in the marketing mode. Let’s just close this out today, too. So
768 01:24:20.000 ⇒ 01:24:27.900 Uttam Kumaran: Javi, red re Javi diagram redesign. I think I’m gonna put this. I think the project here is the kit
769 01:24:29.440 ⇒ 01:24:33.730 Hannah Wang: Right. And this is the sub issue
770 01:24:33.730 ⇒ 01:24:36.659 Uttam Kumaran: This is just an issue underneath, nailing the kit
771 01:24:36.950 ⇒ 01:24:38.280 Hannah Wang: Right.
772 01:24:38.280 ⇒ 01:24:40.459 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s go ahead and just do that right now.
773 01:24:41.710 ⇒ 01:24:44.820 Hannah Wang: Yeah. Just consolidate everything. Now.
774 01:24:44.820 ⇒ 01:24:50.770 Uttam Kumaran: Do you? Wanna I’m gonna create the, I’m gonna create this kit. Do you wanna just move the tickets into this or tag them into this
775 01:24:50.770 ⇒ 01:24:55.690 Hannah Wang: Sure. And then within. So like Ann created
776 01:24:56.270 ⇒ 01:25:05.390 Hannah Wang: like, made the joby diagram redesign ticket like a template. And so it has all the sub issues. But do you want us to like not have this sub
777 01:25:05.390 ⇒ 01:25:08.669 Uttam Kumaran: No, you can have sub. You can have the sub. You can have the sub issues. That’s fine.
778 01:25:08.670 ⇒ 01:25:10.559 Hannah Wang: Oh, but just tag it, I see. Okay.
779 01:25:10.560 ⇒ 01:25:12.750 Uttam Kumaran: Make sure that it’s all associated with this
780 01:25:13.350 ⇒ 01:25:14.740 Hannah Wang: Sure. Yeah. Yep.
781 01:25:14.740 ⇒ 01:25:20.650 Uttam Kumaran: Because we’re gonna be working on the kit and each individual client things altogether.
782 01:25:21.380 ⇒ 01:25:25.620 Uttam Kumaran: And this way again, it’s like you’re working on it. I think Anne’s working on it.
783 01:25:25.810 ⇒ 01:25:27.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, fine.
784 01:25:27.885 ⇒ 01:25:30.729 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna go ahead and create this project.
785 01:25:31.649 ⇒ 01:25:37.930 Uttam Kumaran: I think we’ll wait to set a due date. But at least we’ll set a start date as like last Monday.
786 01:25:39.742 ⇒ 01:25:42.389 Uttam Kumaran: Priorities, high rates.
787 01:25:43.750 ⇒ 01:25:46.090 Uttam Kumaran: This is in progress right now. Great.
788 01:25:47.360 ⇒ 01:25:49.389 Uttam Kumaran: so you can go ahead and tag that
789 01:25:49.800 ⇒ 01:25:53.439 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll just make sure you’re in here. Log, blog, revamp
790 01:25:53.440 ⇒ 01:25:55.350 Hannah Wang: You can just delete those
791 01:25:55.350 ⇒ 01:25:56.230 Uttam Kumaran: These ones.
792 01:25:56.420 ⇒ 01:26:00.759 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I didn’t know what I was doing. This is when I 1st opened linear. So
793 01:26:07.470 ⇒ 01:26:10.589 Uttam Kumaran: And we had a we had a deck kit, right? Is that’s what was that? Another one
794 01:26:12.251 ⇒ 01:26:18.580 Hannah Wang: We didn’t have a deck kit. We just had make decks
795 01:26:23.630 ⇒ 01:26:25.259 Uttam Kumaran: Partnership, Kit, right
796 01:26:26.420 ⇒ 01:26:28.850 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah, but that’s not like a diagram
797 01:26:28.850 ⇒ 01:26:29.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay.
798 01:26:33.410 ⇒ 01:26:39.507 Uttam Kumaran: okay, so we have the diagram kit.
799 01:26:43.420 ⇒ 01:26:46.839 Uttam Kumaran: how do I go and see? Like the issues associated with this?
800 01:26:59.790 ⇒ 01:27:00.500 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.
801 01:27:00.780 ⇒ 01:27:04.090 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah, we didn’t tag any of them yet. So
802 01:27:04.270 ⇒ 01:27:06.136 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? So I’m gonna move
803 01:27:12.840 ⇒ 01:27:14.839 Uttam Kumaran: project is a diagram kit.
804 01:27:17.690 ⇒ 01:27:24.059 Uttam Kumaran: And where is the one that Ann is working on
805 01:27:24.640 ⇒ 01:27:26.700 Hannah Wang: It’s under.
806 01:27:27.000 ⇒ 01:27:29.220 Hannah Wang: I don’t know where the parent ticket is, but
807 01:27:29.340 ⇒ 01:27:31.129 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah. Okay.
808 01:27:32.070 ⇒ 01:27:34.640 Uttam Kumaran: Project. Diagram. Kit. Okay? Cool?
809 01:27:34.790 ⇒ 01:27:36.680 Hannah Wang: Did you already tag the Eden? One
810 01:27:37.955 ⇒ 01:27:39.930 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think I created
811 01:27:39.930 ⇒ 01:27:42.209 Hannah Wang: There’s yeah, that one
812 01:27:42.470 ⇒ 01:27:46.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So this is Eden diagram.
813 01:27:47.410 ⇒ 01:27:54.170 Uttam Kumaran: The diagram kit for now project is the diagram Kit, hey?
814 01:27:55.450 ⇒ 01:28:02.379 Uttam Kumaran: So one of the things that I think I’m gonna just rename this to diagram Kit
815 01:28:02.680 ⇒ 01:28:03.450 Hannah Wang: Okay.
816 01:28:07.020 ⇒ 01:28:15.620 Uttam Kumaran: The diagram kit. And then let’s just spend a second here and talk about diagrams.
817 01:28:15.930 ⇒ 01:28:17.210 Uttam Kumaran: So
818 01:28:18.090 ⇒ 01:28:27.260 Uttam Kumaran: what we’re what I suggest people search for is just a modern data stack. Here you’re gonna see a lot of versions and with the same tools of things that we’re using.
819 01:28:27.985 ⇒ 01:28:34.524 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe let’s just spend a second here, and we can just go through these and sort of see if there’s anything we like that we want to.
820 01:28:35.580 ⇒ 01:28:37.969 Uttam Kumaran: that we want to maybe save as Inspo
821 01:28:39.184 ⇒ 01:28:43.199 Uttam Kumaran: but these will all be variations of like what we’re doing. Anyways.
822 01:28:53.390 ⇒ 01:29:00.299 Uttam Kumaran: I think I kind of do like this one copy image.
823 01:29:02.020 ⇒ 01:29:03.369 Uttam Kumaran: So what I’ll so
824 01:29:03.870 ⇒ 01:29:07.260 Uttam Kumaran: is it, should I? Should I just put it here, and then kind of maybe I don’t know
825 01:29:07.260 ⇒ 01:29:09.820 Hannah Wang: Yeah, yeah, I’ll re. I’ll reorganize it
826 01:29:09.820 ⇒ 01:29:15.850 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, and then I’ll I’ll I wanna just add a bunch from here, and then I can put comments on like, why, why, why, we pick them
827 01:29:31.500 ⇒ 01:29:32.240 Uttam Kumaran: oops!
828 01:31:15.870 ⇒ 01:31:18.169 Uttam Kumaran: Do you see that find more like this? What does that mean?
829 01:31:19.850 ⇒ 01:31:23.729 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, oh, it look actually finds more in our ware, and I think
830 01:31:24.590 ⇒ 01:31:25.810 Hannah Wang: Oh, interesting!
831 01:31:25.810 ⇒ 01:31:26.710 Hannah Wang: Interesting!
832 01:31:32.439 ⇒ 01:31:37.939 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, those are probably like you kinda get what I’m going for. So those are a lot of them.
833 01:31:40.090 ⇒ 01:31:45.129 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s also do reverse. Etl.
834 01:33:09.810 ⇒ 01:33:15.200 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so I think that’s probably pretty good. I think the only other thing I want to look at is
835 01:33:48.340 ⇒ 01:33:54.610 Uttam Kumaran: This may be the hardest thing for me to really translate like the technical concepts here. But I’ll do my best.
836 01:33:54.780 ⇒ 01:33:57.510 Uttam Kumaran: Just find everything that’s like, kind of important
837 01:33:58.760 ⇒ 01:33:59.270 Hannah Wang: Okay.
838 01:35:04.090 ⇒ 01:35:07.399 Uttam Kumaran: Yay, this is the one I wanted. Okay, cool.
839 01:35:22.910 ⇒ 01:35:23.885 Uttam Kumaran: Okay,
840 01:35:27.110 ⇒ 01:35:33.790 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna sort kind of put these all in one area, and I’ll just sort of. I’m gonna leave comments on. Why.
841 01:35:35.360 ⇒ 01:35:41.670 Uttam Kumaran: they’re important. And then we can first, st and then we then talk about like what different diagrams we want to do so.
842 01:35:42.591 ⇒ 01:35:52.410 Uttam Kumaran: The 1st thing. So this one this one is like.
843 01:35:52.790 ⇒ 01:35:55.759 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna put like does a good job
844 01:35:56.070 ⇒ 01:35:58.750 Uttam Kumaran: of showing, I guess, like even before then.
845 01:35:58.890 ⇒ 01:36:02.000 Uttam Kumaran: Do you think it’s helpful to just walk through like a couple of these.
846 01:36:02.700 ⇒ 01:36:07.899 Uttam Kumaran: or like, what do you? What do you? How? How is this? Like most helpful? And I assume Anne’s gonna watch this recording. So like
847 01:36:07.900 ⇒ 01:36:08.500 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
848 01:36:08.500 ⇒ 01:36:09.590 Uttam Kumaran: How how is this?
849 01:36:10.460 ⇒ 01:36:11.399 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, how is this
850 01:36:12.880 ⇒ 01:36:17.130 Hannah Wang: I guess what you like about it, and what you want to carry into our design
851 01:36:17.380 ⇒ 01:36:17.684 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
852 01:36:18.502 ⇒ 01:36:36.079 Uttam Kumaran: so some of these I don’t like certain things. I’m just gonna kind of tag, what’s good about this? So one piece and to sort of just talk through like, actually, what this is, what we do for clients right now. So basically we have. And the best version of this is probably this where we have several data sources
853 01:36:36.560 ⇒ 01:36:41.070 Uttam Kumaran: we bring in until we bring it in to snowflake. Typically
854 01:36:41.440 ⇒ 01:36:47.660 Uttam Kumaran: Through one of these ingestion methods. This is a tool that all they do is pull data in and put it here. Just brokers.
855 01:36:47.850 ⇒ 01:36:55.350 Uttam Kumaran: We then put it in one area. Dbt, then holds a bunch of SQL. Queries that we run on top of that data
856 01:36:55.510 ⇒ 01:37:07.770 Uttam Kumaran: that then transforms it and then makes it available for bi tools for analytics, and then it gets sent to other tools for people. So these are all variations of that story.
857 01:37:08.278 ⇒ 01:37:15.531 Uttam Kumaran: Right? So it’s like data sources. They connect in. We store that raw data. We then transform it. We then make it available in the data mark
858 01:37:15.800 ⇒ 01:37:16.210 Hannah Wang: Okay.
859 01:37:16.210 ⇒ 01:37:19.070 Uttam Kumaran: A couple of things, I’ll think, as I go through this one. I like
860 01:37:19.490 ⇒ 01:37:23.470 Uttam Kumaran: like that. They carve out sources.
861 01:37:24.224 ⇒ 01:37:36.599 Uttam Kumaran: And this is where like these, these are all versions of like a kit meaning, this isn’t specific to a customer. This is like what’s possible, right? So that you can see how they’re like we could use snowflake bigquery, databricks, redshift.
862 01:37:36.740 ⇒ 01:37:39.890 Uttam Kumaran: We could use Dbt airflow, you know, like. So
863 01:37:40.110 ⇒ 01:37:52.660 Uttam Kumaran: we’re gonna have versions of this that that work for like that will be helpful for sales to share what we could do. But then we’ll also most likely have a version of this which is like what it is for
864 01:37:52.850 ⇒ 01:37:56.689 Uttam Kumaran: Javi, right? Because Javi is not using 4 different warehouses, or just
865 01:37:57.451 ⇒ 01:38:02.119 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s the bridge is like, we’re gonna create the kit, which is basically like
866 01:38:02.900 ⇒ 01:38:17.139 Uttam Kumaran: we’ll have like a master version with all options, and then you can sort of either craft that or we have a version for sales, and then version for each client. I don’t know again, it’s kind of open the so this one I like that. They show all these different sources for this one.
867 01:38:19.930 ⇒ 01:38:24.949 Uttam Kumaran: I like that that these have.
868 01:38:25.580 ⇒ 01:38:30.149 Uttam Kumaran: This is almost like a it’s like we have one dimension here.
869 01:38:30.360 ⇒ 01:38:35.810 Uttam Kumaran: one dimension here, one here, one here. So there’s almost like 4 aspects of this chart that I like.
870 01:38:36.351 ⇒ 01:38:40.440 Uttam Kumaran: I like this because all our data does go through phases.
871 01:38:40.640 ⇒ 01:38:56.190 Uttam Kumaran: Right? So data goes from raw to normalized to transformed to march.
872 01:38:57.160 ⇒ 01:39:05.919 Uttam Kumaran: So I do like that. This sort of each of these go through phases. This can probably be combined right? You don’t need to do. 4 of these could probably combine into one
873 01:39:06.150 ⇒ 01:39:08.170 Hannah Wang: But like it’s also likes that
874 01:39:08.300 ⇒ 01:39:10.429 Uttam Kumaran: Like we can see these options here.
875 01:39:13.620 ⇒ 01:39:17.300 Uttam Kumaran: And be combined into one
876 01:39:17.730 ⇒ 01:39:21.060 Uttam Kumaran: dream and one output to 4.
877 01:39:23.370 ⇒ 01:39:25.199 Uttam Kumaran: This one, too.
878 01:39:28.060 ⇒ 01:39:30.079 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I feel like it’s
879 01:39:32.960 ⇒ 01:39:35.210 Uttam Kumaran: I think this does a good job at like
880 01:39:36.760 ⇒ 01:39:39.880 Uttam Kumaran: with like naming each of these categories
881 01:39:41.620 ⇒ 01:39:46.450 Uttam Kumaran: But what you don’t see here is like you. Still, don’t. You don’t see like how this is, just like
882 01:39:47.010 ⇒ 01:39:50.689 Uttam Kumaran: all the tools in the space. This isn’t really like how data flows.
883 01:39:50.900 ⇒ 01:39:51.700 Uttam Kumaran: Right?
884 01:39:52.368 ⇒ 01:39:58.050 Uttam Kumaran: This is more of a data flow diagram. It goes to a tool. It goes to a warehouse. It gets pumped somewhere.
885 01:39:58.470 ⇒ 01:40:06.010 Uttam Kumaran: This one, I think, is really really good. And I like, want us to copy this.
886 01:40:07.680 ⇒ 01:40:14.599 Uttam Kumaran: We have raw data land and Dbt covers just
887 01:40:15.300 ⇒ 01:40:24.159 Uttam Kumaran: transforming the raw into Mart’s tables. Right? And so this is a mart
888 01:40:24.830 ⇒ 01:40:31.429 Uttam Kumaran: table, basically data team approved data, analytics tables.
889 01:40:32.140 ⇒ 01:40:39.820 Uttam Kumaran: And so this is another example down here of what I was mentioning. I’m just gonna move it here because these sort of hammer at this point.
890 01:40:40.010 ⇒ 01:40:44.829 Uttam Kumaran: which is data, comes in
891 01:40:45.667 ⇒ 01:40:52.729 Uttam Kumaran: through sources it gets ingested. And then we have Dbt in these 4 areas. So this is what I want to show. Certainly.
892 01:40:52.960 ⇒ 01:41:05.600 Uttam Kumaran: So all of our all of our detailed diagrams go through these phases right
893 01:41:05.740 ⇒ 01:41:10.610 Uttam Kumaran: and right now these phases are raw, intermediate.
894 01:41:11.240 ⇒ 01:41:12.330 Uttam Kumaran: And Martz.
895 01:41:14.860 ⇒ 01:41:18.263 Uttam Kumaran: So this is another example of that.
896 01:41:21.400 ⇒ 01:41:24.980 Uttam Kumaran: I think this is like a. This is like a good sales level diagram, like, I like
897 01:41:24.980 ⇒ 01:41:26.469 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I like that one
898 01:41:26.470 ⇒ 01:41:27.130 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
899 01:41:27.870 ⇒ 01:41:29.260 Hannah Wang: Understandable.
900 01:41:29.260 ⇒ 01:41:34.090 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, this is at a sales high level
901 01:41:35.580 ⇒ 01:41:46.740 Uttam Kumaran: and does a good job of that. So maybe we need various levels of granularity.
902 01:41:47.050 ⇒ 01:41:49.209 Uttam Kumaran: Right? This is like a very high level one
903 01:41:49.210 ⇒ 01:41:49.910 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
904 01:41:50.820 ⇒ 01:41:55.090 Uttam Kumaran: This one is very low level, right? Like this, this basically has the tables in them.
905 01:41:55.490 ⇒ 01:41:56.200 Hannah Wang: Right.
906 01:41:56.200 ⇒ 01:42:00.770 Uttam Kumaran: Right? So this is almost similar to like what we’re doing here.
907 01:42:01.500 ⇒ 01:42:02.250 Hannah Wang: Hmm.
908 01:42:02.780 ⇒ 01:42:06.469 Uttam Kumaran: See what I mean. Like, we’re we’re, we’re basically listing the tables here.
909 01:42:06.700 ⇒ 01:42:10.799 Uttam Kumaran: And so I do. I do like this for
910 01:42:11.210 ⇒ 01:42:16.409 Uttam Kumaran: love. This, as it literally has every component.
911 01:42:16.590 ⇒ 01:42:23.600 Uttam Kumaran: And this is probably what our client diagrams
912 01:42:23.720 ⇒ 01:42:30.730 Uttam Kumaran: will end up, being closer to versus the sales level.
913 01:42:32.400 ⇒ 01:42:37.550 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I think we’re gonna get this granular, or that’s still at least like close to this.
914 01:42:38.520 ⇒ 01:42:41.990 Uttam Kumaran: right? So the kit needs to be able to solve for this, mainly
915 01:42:42.770 ⇒ 01:42:47.470 Uttam Kumaran: like, I think the kit could solve for this. But, like this is pretty simple.
916 01:42:48.490 ⇒ 01:42:54.029 Uttam Kumaran: We need like a flexible kit and framework for for us to be able to do this. And I love these phases
917 01:42:54.430 ⇒ 01:43:03.230 Uttam Kumaran: of these phases extract load, transform.
918 01:43:04.170 ⇒ 01:43:08.830 Uttam Kumaran: activate, right? And that kind of goes to our our other graph right with the data activation.
919 01:43:18.490 ⇒ 01:43:21.810 Uttam Kumaran: This one I like because this sort of like highlights.
920 01:43:22.570 ⇒ 01:43:25.790 Uttam Kumaran: what is a data mark which we do get question about
921 01:43:27.560 ⇒ 01:43:32.949 Uttam Kumaran: So I feel like, yeah, I think this is
922 01:43:33.940 ⇒ 01:43:37.110 Uttam Kumaran: I. I do like this chart, but it’s probably it’s not as
923 01:43:38.660 ⇒ 01:43:41.450 Uttam Kumaran: this is more just describing this last piece, right?
924 01:43:42.900 ⇒ 01:43:53.716 Uttam Kumaran: Just describes the last mile cool. So if I was to give some feedback on these, one is
925 01:43:55.430 ⇒ 01:43:58.010 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, you have the Logos right? I think.
926 01:43:59.860 ⇒ 01:44:14.640 Uttam Kumaran: We want to have phases of extraction, transformation, traction loading transformation.
927 01:44:16.040 ⇒ 01:44:36.080 Uttam Kumaran: We want to show raw intermediate. And Martz, and snowflake holds the data models.
928 01:44:37.050 ⇒ 01:44:45.860 Uttam Kumaran: So is this like surrounding the right thing? I don’t know.
929 01:44:51.570 ⇒ 01:44:53.705 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s 1 piece
930 01:44:55.790 ⇒ 01:45:03.790 Uttam Kumaran: like, I think a good way of doing. The Github piece is like like this where it’s almost like concentric tables, right like something like this.
931 01:45:04.920 ⇒ 01:45:11.640 Uttam Kumaran: or like right? So look at this like Github is on top Dpcs. Here. They’re both sort of over overarching.
932 01:45:14.280 ⇒ 01:45:23.650 Uttam Kumaran: I like that Github and Dbt. Surround this layer
933 01:45:25.690 ⇒ 01:45:30.089 Uttam Kumaran: and bleed into the other 2 layers.
934 01:45:34.720 ⇒ 01:45:41.619 Uttam Kumaran: So I think this is in the right direction. I just think again, similar to our conversation about the deck. This needs to be functional
935 01:45:42.860 ⇒ 01:45:48.099 Uttam Kumaran: So, even if it’s like chaotic, it’s fine, cause it is chaotic. There’s a lot of shit going on
936 01:45:48.300 ⇒ 01:45:48.900 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
937 01:45:49.401 ⇒ 01:45:54.230 Uttam Kumaran: And I want, we actually want to. We actually want to show that like, how much shit, how much shit is actually going on
938 01:45:54.580 ⇒ 01:45:55.180 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
939 01:45:55.460 ⇒ 01:45:57.649 Uttam Kumaran: The other piece. Yeah, go ahead.
940 01:45:57.650 ⇒ 01:45:58.109 Uttam Kumaran: Go ahead.
941 01:45:58.110 ⇒ 01:46:06.599 Hannah Wang: Sorry. When you say kit like in my head, Kit, are just like reusable components that people just can grab and make their own chart. But
942 01:46:07.200 ⇒ 01:46:13.370 Hannah Wang: when you mean Kit like, because you were saying, Oh, we want like the highest level of complexity like, that’s
943 01:46:13.660 ⇒ 01:46:17.830 Hannah Wang: the kit that we’re designing for basic clay.
944 01:46:20.060 ⇒ 01:46:25.540 Hannah Wang: yeah. So when you say Kit, like, what do you mean? Cause Kit to me are just like reusable parts
945 01:46:26.920 ⇒ 01:46:30.370 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So if I go to the diagram kit here,
946 01:46:32.240 ⇒ 01:46:35.060 Uttam Kumaran: let’s just like like, if I was to say
947 01:46:35.210 ⇒ 01:46:44.670 Uttam Kumaran: a little bit of a like. What this is, though, includes sales diagram reusable.
948 01:46:45.740 ⇒ 01:46:55.840 Uttam Kumaran: Not only like. So we sort of have, like reusable logos, right logos, icons.
949 01:46:56.650 ⇒ 01:46:57.359 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know what
950 01:46:57.360 ⇒ 01:46:58.192 Hannah Wang: There it goes!
951 01:46:58.470 ⇒ 01:47:05.420 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, arrows sections we have, we have, we have reusable sales.
952 01:47:05.770 ⇒ 01:47:09.119 Uttam Kumaran: like, basically, I consider this like a diagram
953 01:47:10.070 ⇒ 01:47:10.440 Hannah Wang: Yep.
954 01:47:10.440 ⇒ 01:47:14.979 Uttam Kumaran: So this is like a but this is like a client architecture diagram.
955 01:47:15.910 ⇒ 01:47:21.420 Uttam Kumaran: So I would say, reusable diagram frameworks.
956 01:47:22.200 ⇒ 01:47:28.719 Uttam Kumaran: So for sales, diagrams for client architecture diagrams, right
957 01:47:31.830 ⇒ 01:47:37.140 Uttam Kumaran: I want to do like cost cost overview
958 01:47:37.800 ⇒ 01:47:41.370 Uttam Kumaran: diagrams we have. We don’t. We haven’t talked about that yet.
959 01:47:42.280 ⇒ 01:47:52.470 Uttam Kumaran: Cost overview diagrams, tool 1, 2, 3, tool comparison diagrams, right?
960 01:47:53.040 ⇒ 01:47:55.399 Uttam Kumaran: Like, how do we compare tools together?
961 01:47:57.860 ⇒ 01:48:09.099 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s certainly like I would say, this is like, if if we’re gonna do Eden, then we’re probably gonna say cool Eden team should just should have the Logos that they need, and be able to just like slot them in here.
962 01:48:09.320 ⇒ 01:48:10.090 Uttam Kumaran: Right?
963 01:48:11.430 ⇒ 01:48:15.890 Uttam Kumaran: That’s sort of how I’m I’m I’m thinking a bit about it.
964 01:48:16.190 ⇒ 01:48:16.880 Hannah Wang: Hmm.
965 01:48:16.880 ⇒ 01:48:23.349 Uttam Kumaran: Because we’re. This is how it works for all of our clients. What’s different is what’s in here and like, what are the Logos in here?
966 01:48:25.350 ⇒ 01:48:25.990 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
967 01:48:25.990 ⇒ 01:48:31.910 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m trying to think at what level, because this is very similar to the Pm. Stuff. I want our engineers to build these.
968 01:48:32.460 ⇒ 01:48:37.040 Uttam Kumaran: but if it’s they don’t have the tools they’re gonna it’s gonna become ugly.
969 01:48:38.970 ⇒ 01:48:56.889 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I mean, this is where, like the like, figma is just hard in general, because I think there’s just like a lot of things within designing and making it look neat and stuff like I feel like a lot of other people a a lot of non designers when they go into it and try to mess with it like it, just like gets messed up, anyway, because
970 01:48:57.840 ⇒ 01:49:02.989 Hannah Wang: there’s just like auto layout. And all this like more technical design stuff
971 01:49:03.120 ⇒ 01:49:24.369 Hannah Wang: versus like Google slides, for example, is a little easier to just like make and mess around with. So that’s where I’m trying to like, think, okay, how can we make it so that it looks good? But it it’s also easy for other non designers to like go in and mess with it without getting overwhelmed by figma
972 01:49:24.730 ⇒ 01:49:25.840 Hannah Wang: in general.
973 01:49:27.090 ⇒ 01:49:31.339 Uttam Kumaran: So I guess my my ask here is like
974 01:49:31.510 ⇒ 01:49:37.569 Uttam Kumaran: we can like, isn’t it? Isn’t it easy to just bring this into fig jam, and like have fig jam, be the medium
975 01:49:39.253 ⇒ 01:49:42.670 Hannah Wang: We can try. Let’s see.
976 01:49:42.670 ⇒ 01:49:47.190 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s try it right now, because that’s that would be my healthy medium
977 01:49:47.500 ⇒ 01:49:52.930 Uttam Kumaran: between both teams, because I agree their engineers are not gonna fuck around in here
978 01:49:52.930 ⇒ 01:49:54.250 Hannah Wang: No. Yeah.
979 01:49:54.250 ⇒ 01:49:55.639 Uttam Kumaran: But I also
980 01:49:56.820 ⇒ 01:50:03.890 Uttam Kumaran: there’s also like the other. Only other option is for me to say like they need to give it a 1st pass somewhere and then hand it to you.
981 01:50:07.115 ⇒ 01:50:08.719 Hannah Wang: I mean, I’m
982 01:50:08.950 ⇒ 01:50:26.529 Hannah Wang: I’m personally fine with that, because I feel like Ann and I, we can hammer this out and like no problem, especially if we have a structure down. And if you just give us the requirements and copy and Logos like, we can just crank it out. I actually prefer that more than giving engineers the free rein to like.
983 01:50:27.000 ⇒ 01:50:34.870 Hannah Wang: try to figure it out and then get confused because fake jam is also confusing. And what Nico designed like that’s in fig jam. I feel like that’s the extent of what you can do
984 01:50:34.870 ⇒ 01:50:40.850 Uttam Kumaran: This is the extent. Yeah, so, but like. But this is what I would consider requirements, yeah, so
985 01:50:40.850 ⇒ 01:50:41.420 Uttam Kumaran: fine.
986 01:50:41.600 ⇒ 01:50:47.730 Hannah Wang: Yeah. And basically, that’s what we did like with the Javi stuff like the diagram above it. We took that. And we just like redesigned it.
987 01:50:47.840 ⇒ 01:50:54.810 Hannah Wang: And it it’s like not too terribly difficult to do it. The other option is
988 01:50:54.810 ⇒ 01:50:59.499 Uttam Kumaran: For them to literally list these out in like a document
989 01:51:01.020 ⇒ 01:51:04.700 Hannah Wang: That works too like, especially if we have like templates.
990 01:51:04.940 ⇒ 01:51:06.560 Uttam Kumaran: Which would be like, what are the sources? What’s
991 01:51:06.560 ⇒ 01:51:07.140 Hannah Wang: Exactly what
992 01:51:07.140 ⇒ 01:51:07.860 Uttam Kumaran: This, okay.
993 01:51:07.860 ⇒ 01:51:08.400 Hannah Wang: Exactly.
994 01:51:08.400 ⇒ 01:51:09.260 Uttam Kumaran: I’m down.
995 01:51:09.550 ⇒ 01:51:33.639 Hannah Wang: And honestly like the same goes with Pm. Slides, too, like the the same as applicable the same scenario and problem like it’s not hard for us to go in and tinker with it, because we built it right? So if they just give us like, Oh, I need this like, we can design it instead of them, taking maybe 2 x time to like. Figure out how we even design the template in the 1st place and tinker with it.
996 01:51:34.190 ⇒ 01:51:35.150 Hannah Wang: So that’s
997 01:51:35.150 ⇒ 01:51:35.660 Uttam Kumaran: On, the
998 01:51:35.660 ⇒ 01:51:36.110 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
999 01:51:36.110 ⇒ 01:51:46.869 Uttam Kumaran: On the Pm. Slide. If they can get their deck done by like Thursday morning, then we can. I can set. We can be like every every deck has to go through design team for review, because
1000 01:51:47.570 ⇒ 01:51:52.340 Uttam Kumaran: I would rather them do 6, 70% of it and then hand it to you to polish
1001 01:51:52.710 ⇒ 01:51:53.820 Hannah Wang: I see that
1002 01:51:53.820 ⇒ 01:51:56.669 Uttam Kumaran: Just aware the engineers are not gonna be able to even do like 20%.
1003 01:51:57.455 ⇒ 01:51:58.240 Uttam Kumaran: Right?
1004 01:51:58.820 ⇒ 01:52:02.320 Uttam Kumaran: This is this is literally like, I set up this, you just
1005 01:52:02.320 ⇒ 01:52:08.760 Uttam Kumaran: I literally did each of these, and they they filled it out so there’s they couldn’t even get this far
1006 01:52:08.760 ⇒ 01:52:10.190 Hannah Wang: Okay, yeah.
1007 01:52:10.820 ⇒ 01:52:21.939 Hannah Wang: okay, that makes sense for slides and for kids. Yeah, for the Pm slides. Just get me like I’ll give you the template. I’ll give. The Pm’s a template they configure with it. But then I’ll do the polishing
1008 01:52:22.510 ⇒ 01:52:27.300 Hannah Wang: on Thursday morning, or whatever, or me and Ann both of us.
1009 01:52:28.810 ⇒ 01:52:31.600 Hannah Wang: I feel like, that’s just a better system. Because.
1010 01:52:31.960 ⇒ 01:52:35.339 Hannah Wang: yeah, just go through design for final review. Basically.
1011 01:52:37.130 ⇒ 01:52:48.080 Uttam Kumaran: So I think, as part of like the design, like as part of like delivering, delivering the design. Kit.
1012 01:52:48.420 ⇒ 01:52:52.310 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s 1. i think it, then, ultimately it’s reusable.
1013 01:52:52.420 ⇒ 01:52:54.420 Uttam Kumaran: It’s reusable stuff for for you guys
1014 01:52:54.420 ⇒ 01:52:55.600 Hannah Wang: For us, exactly
1015 01:52:55.600 ⇒ 01:53:09.070 Uttam Kumaran: Right? So reusable kit for the design team second is going to be like a a diagram
1016 01:53:09.170 ⇒ 01:53:11.190 Uttam Kumaran: request template
1017 01:53:11.390 ⇒ 01:53:14.589 Hannah Wang: Or diagram. Yeah, diagram request, template
1018 01:53:15.530 ⇒ 01:53:27.030 Uttam Kumaran: What information does sales? Pm, engineering need to provide to?
1019 01:53:27.190 ⇒ 01:53:34.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, what does sales engineering need to provide? Basically in writing Inspo, something like that
1020 01:53:34.640 ⇒ 01:53:35.220 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1021 01:53:36.230 ⇒ 01:53:42.459 Uttam Kumaran: Delivering the design. So I see those, and then I also say, I also think delivering the so that’s delivering the design, Kit.
1022 01:53:42.820 ⇒ 01:53:47.955 Uttam Kumaran: I would say here as part of like deliver applying, delivering,
1023 01:53:52.010 ⇒ 01:53:59.985 Uttam Kumaran: applying. I guess it’s more of like delivering existing client.
1024 01:54:01.370 ⇒ 01:54:04.069 Uttam Kumaran: well, how about we just have diagram backlog
1025 01:54:04.230 ⇒ 01:54:06.340 Uttam Kumaran: for now. So we have the Eden
1026 01:54:07.230 ⇒ 01:54:07.770 Hannah Wang: Driving.
1027 01:54:07.770 ⇒ 01:54:09.910 Uttam Kumaran: We have Javi. We have pool parts.
1028 01:54:09.910 ⇒ 01:54:10.300 Hannah Wang: Right.
1029 01:54:10.300 ⇒ 01:54:10.953 Uttam Kumaran: We have
1030 01:54:11.280 ⇒ 01:54:12.110 Hannah Wang: Urban center
1031 01:54:12.110 ⇒ 01:54:14.180 Uttam Kumaran: Home urban stems
1032 01:54:16.890 ⇒ 01:54:19.460 Hannah Wang: Sales like sales diagrams. I don’t know
1033 01:54:19.460 ⇒ 01:54:26.300 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we have like, a, yeah, like a sales sales deck diagram.
1034 01:54:38.670 ⇒ 01:54:40.289 Uttam Kumaran: I think this is okay.
1035 01:54:40.500 ⇒ 01:54:41.959 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah.
1036 01:54:52.180 ⇒ 01:54:53.030 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
1037 01:54:54.960 ⇒ 01:55:00.289 Hannah Wang: Yeah. So, for example, like what you provided in fig jam like, that’s a good like
1038 01:55:01.370 ⇒ 01:55:08.289 Hannah Wang: info request thing. And then design can take that and run with it. And once we have approval, for, like the 1st set of
1039 01:55:08.390 ⇒ 01:55:13.070 Hannah Wang: like v, 1 of a good diagram, we could just copy that concept to all the other ones.
1040 01:55:13.580 ⇒ 01:55:14.230 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
1041 01:55:14.330 ⇒ 01:55:19.390 Uttam Kumaran: So in terms of like list, let’s tick out of, let’s ticket out a few of these things.
1042 01:55:19.530 ⇒ 01:55:21.346 Uttam Kumaran: So if I was to
1043 01:55:23.690 ⇒ 01:55:29.909 Uttam Kumaran: if I was to go look at the issues in the diagram kit. Okay, so these are all the the current issues.
1044 01:55:30.130 ⇒ 01:55:33.589 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m just going to hide the sub issues. So we have the diagram, Kit.
1045 01:55:38.190 ⇒ 01:55:42.469 Uttam Kumaran: If I want to add the Javi. Oh, so we have a Javi.
1046 01:55:43.490 ⇒ 01:55:53.350 Uttam Kumaran: We have the Javi diagram, Javi architecture. I’m just with architecture diagram.
1047 01:55:53.800 ⇒ 01:56:00.640 Uttam Kumaran: We have the Eden architecture diagram.
1048 01:56:01.930 ⇒ 01:56:09.570 Uttam Kumaran: And then I wanna add the stack Blitz architect, arch diagram.
1049 01:56:10.090 ⇒ 01:56:16.469 Uttam Kumaran: I want to add the tool parts, arch diagram.
1050 01:56:17.070 ⇒ 01:56:23.430 Uttam Kumaran: I wanna add the urban stems, arch diagram,
1051 01:56:26.780 ⇒ 01:56:27.830 Hannah Wang: ABC.
1052 01:56:28.020 ⇒ 01:56:31.809 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. ABC, home, Arch. Diagram.
1053 01:56:35.490 ⇒ 01:56:36.310 Hannah Wang: Sales.
1054 01:56:37.420 ⇒ 01:56:38.025 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
1055 01:56:38.780 ⇒ 01:56:46.980 Uttam Kumaran: Males, sales deck my level arch diagram
1056 01:56:48.100 ⇒ 01:56:52.310 Uttam Kumaran: could be added to capabilities. Deck
1057 01:56:53.440 ⇒ 01:56:53.990 Hannah Wang: Hmm.
1058 01:56:55.037 ⇒ 01:56:59.620 Uttam Kumaran: And then we also wanna add the cost that
1059 01:56:59.740 ⇒ 01:57:11.140 Uttam Kumaran: basically, I’m gonna just add these to the backlog. But these are gonna be tool comparison diagram
1060 01:57:12.330 ⇒ 01:57:16.370 Uttam Kumaran: may end up also being a 1 pager
1061 01:57:22.040 ⇒ 01:57:25.889 Uttam Kumaran: and then so I’m gonna move these ones I’m gonna move to.
1062 01:57:28.270 ⇒ 01:57:33.559 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna move to in these requirements.
1063 01:57:42.840 ⇒ 01:57:45.800 Uttam Kumaran: and then the kit. So the kit is going to take the longest
1064 01:57:46.440 ⇒ 01:57:47.080 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1065 01:57:51.220 ⇒ 01:57:59.990 Uttam Kumaran: So I’ll let you guys design decide like what? I don’t know what the kit require. Like subtasks are
1066 01:58:00.330 ⇒ 01:58:00.950 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1067 01:58:01.320 ⇒ 01:58:01.990 Uttam Kumaran: But
1068 01:58:02.760 ⇒ 01:58:09.749 Uttam Kumaran: I think I’ll let you guys decide. And but for now I’m just gonna move it. I’m just gonna I’ll leave it in to do this cycle, I guess. Let’s talk about
1069 01:58:10.590 ⇒ 01:58:15.459 Uttam Kumaran: what you think right now. This is in progress. I just gave some feedback
1070 01:58:15.690 ⇒ 01:58:16.030 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1071 01:58:16.477 ⇒ 01:58:22.579 Uttam Kumaran: I think of me like, what do you think about who’s gonna take what and what we can get done? This cycle
1072 01:58:24.700 ⇒ 01:58:25.360 Hannah Wang: Oh!
1073 01:58:28.400 ⇒ 01:58:31.389 Uttam Kumaran: And I can show you what else we have on the docket.
1074 01:58:34.630 ⇒ 01:58:40.369 Hannah Wang: Let’s see 1 0 1 pagers
1075 01:58:40.370 ⇒ 01:58:43.270 Uttam Kumaran: I think the Eden and Javi, if we can get that.
1076 01:58:43.440 ⇒ 01:58:45.149 Uttam Kumaran: that would be really really great.
1077 01:58:46.120 ⇒ 01:58:50.300 Hannah Wang: I can take Eden. But, Eden, I just need more requirements
1078 01:58:50.490 ⇒ 01:58:56.440 Hannah Wang: or reading through. Robert’s message didn’t make sense to me, so I just need, 4 for more help.
1079 01:59:07.840 ⇒ 01:59:09.509 Uttam Kumaran: this is the current diagram
1080 01:59:09.510 ⇒ 01:59:10.650 Hannah Wang: So, okay.
1081 01:59:25.220 ⇒ 01:59:26.779 Hannah Wang: okay, that’s helpful.
1082 01:59:30.110 ⇒ 01:59:35.330 Uttam Kumaran: Well, here, I’ll just oh, this is not up.
1083 01:59:43.880 ⇒ 01:59:52.779 Uttam Kumaran: So I can’t do that. Okay, well, I’m just gonna link this here so what do you say? The architecture diagrams focus on visual, not focus on differentiating use cases for data tools.
1084 01:59:53.590 ⇒ 01:59:57.600 Uttam Kumaran: I can keep building Google side, we need future state. Can we build a resource that can be shared?
1085 02:00:01.610 ⇒ 02:00:02.700 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yep.
1086 02:00:12.790 ⇒ 02:00:13.530 Uttam Kumaran: great
1087 02:00:17.930 ⇒ 02:00:20.939 Uttam Kumaran: cool. So I’m gonna so this one was gonna be
1088 02:00:21.260 ⇒ 02:00:25.329 Uttam Kumaran: related to the Javi one. This one is going to be related to this one
1089 02:00:30.050 ⇒ 02:00:31.829 Hannah Wang: Aren’t they the same one
1090 02:00:36.690 ⇒ 02:00:39.679 Uttam Kumaran: So basically, what is this? What’s this saying is that we’re gonna have a
1091 02:00:51.900 ⇒ 02:01:01.140 Uttam Kumaran: the goal here, do diagrams, current state and future state.
1092 02:01:02.170 ⇒ 02:01:03.969 Uttam Kumaran: So you’ll need 2 sets of requirements
1093 02:01:04.260 ⇒ 02:01:06.930 Hannah Wang: The what I showed you right now is the current state?
1094 02:01:07.140 ⇒ 02:01:07.860 Hannah Wang: Okay.
1095 02:01:12.110 ⇒ 02:01:13.560 Uttam Kumaran: And
1096 02:01:16.850 ⇒ 02:01:19.490 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, this is fine, for
1097 02:01:24.120 ⇒ 02:01:30.710 Uttam Kumaran: so was it helpful for me to just go here and be like this should go through here. This go through here like what is
1098 02:01:30.920 ⇒ 02:01:35.329 Uttam Kumaran: if I’m gonna add requirements here because we don’t have our requirements template yet.
1099 02:01:35.330 ⇒ 02:01:35.980 Hannah Wang: Right.
1100 02:01:36.290 ⇒ 02:01:37.080 Uttam Kumaran: Like.
1101 02:01:41.090 ⇒ 02:01:42.394 Hannah Wang: Yeah, like, I guess.
1102 02:01:42.900 ⇒ 02:01:46.499 Uttam Kumaran: Or I can let you take a 1st stab at just doing this, and then I can go in
1103 02:01:46.500 ⇒ 02:01:47.460 Hannah Wang: Sure.
1104 02:01:47.460 ⇒ 02:01:48.380 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah.
1105 02:01:48.590 ⇒ 02:01:49.500 Uttam Kumaran: Alright. Cool.
1106 02:01:56.400 ⇒ 02:01:57.230 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
1107 02:01:57.740 ⇒ 02:02:00.740 Uttam Kumaran: So 2 diagrams. Current state, future state.
1108 02:02:02.420 ⇒ 02:02:05.070 Hannah Wang: But I’ll need the future state specs later.
1109 02:02:05.460 ⇒ 02:02:05.940 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
1110 02:02:05.940 ⇒ 02:02:07.150 Hannah Wang: Probably, yeah.
1111 02:02:07.150 ⇒ 02:02:10.180 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna put like current state.
1112 02:02:11.100 ⇒ 02:02:15.720 Uttam Kumaran: the fig jam links. I think future state.
1113 02:02:17.310 ⇒ 02:02:21.060 Uttam Kumaran: I’m I will probably just use the current state and give comments on top of that
1114 02:02:22.000 ⇒ 02:02:22.690 Hannah Wang: Okay.
1115 02:02:23.320 ⇒ 02:02:29.040 Uttam Kumaran: Need some to give comments on top of current state.
1116 02:02:30.180 ⇒ 02:02:31.410 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? Great.
1117 02:02:33.510 ⇒ 02:02:37.099 Uttam Kumaran: So how do you think? Like time timing wise and stuff
1118 02:02:38.730 ⇒ 02:02:39.820 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1119 02:02:41.500 ⇒ 02:02:53.819 Hannah Wang: I mean, I feel like the diagram redesigns. It’s not gonna be that simple, because we’re gonna try to look at all the inspo, and then kind of like consolidate everything. And obviously there’s gonna be rounds of feedback and iteration.
1120 02:02:55.440 ⇒ 02:03:03.100 Uttam Kumaran: I think, taking just the Javi and just the Eden ones that works
1121 02:03:03.950 ⇒ 02:03:06.129 Hannah Wang: But like you gave all that feedback
1122 02:03:06.840 ⇒ 02:03:08.290 Uttam Kumaran: But then, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1123 02:03:08.290 ⇒ 02:03:10.270 Hannah Wang: Yeah, so I guess
1124 02:03:10.270 ⇒ 02:03:11.340 Uttam Kumaran: Well, then, set a longer due date.
1125 02:03:11.340 ⇒ 02:03:12.470 Hannah Wang: Good. v. 1.
1126 02:03:12.600 ⇒ 02:03:16.030 Hannah Wang: Okay. Well, if you need to get it out now, like
1127 02:03:17.000 ⇒ 02:03:20.379 Uttam Kumaran: I would rather have something not so good sooner
1128 02:03:20.800 ⇒ 02:03:21.420 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1129 02:03:21.570 ⇒ 02:03:27.150 Uttam Kumaran: And just you just split it up as like a that’s considered that the low 5 version
1130 02:03:28.890 ⇒ 02:03:33.850 Hannah Wang: So the the one for review that and tag
1131 02:03:33.850 ⇒ 02:03:42.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, so exactly. So like the one for review which is in this Java architecture diagram internal user feedback.
1132 02:03:42.980 ⇒ 02:03:47.209 Uttam Kumaran: There’s I just left revisions, so I would say that
1133 02:03:47.490 ⇒ 02:03:55.739 Uttam Kumaran: I would say that we should get to even a sooner point than that for me to give revisions for, or we should at least get to that point for
1134 02:03:56.000 ⇒ 02:03:58.880 Uttam Kumaran: for Eden, so I can give revisions
1135 02:04:01.050 ⇒ 02:04:06.190 Hannah Wang: Okay. So when will the minimum? It’s like moving this to Sigma
1136 02:04:06.190 ⇒ 02:04:07.069 Uttam Kumaran: New format. Yeah.
1137 02:04:07.070 ⇒ 02:04:14.539 Hannah Wang: Yeah, okay. And so at what point will the joby one be done like the Oh, that’s Lo-fi. You’re saying
1138 02:04:14.820 ⇒ 02:04:21.319 Uttam Kumaran: This one. Well, I did have some points of feedback here which is like to to add to layer on some of these things right that we didn’t know
1139 02:04:21.840 ⇒ 02:04:22.620 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1140 02:04:22.620 ⇒ 02:04:27.699 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s gonna be a little bit touch and go like, I feel actually pretty good about how this looks.
1141 02:04:28.720 ⇒ 02:04:33.770 Uttam Kumaran: I would say, I want to get something out by tomorrow.
1142 02:04:35.030 ⇒ 02:04:36.530 Hannah Wang: For for Javi.
1143 02:04:38.650 ⇒ 02:04:39.999 Uttam Kumaran: Like a v 1
1144 02:04:40.000 ⇒ 02:04:44.119 Hannah Wang: Your comments. Yeah, with all your comments implemented
1145 02:04:45.190 ⇒ 02:04:47.299 Uttam Kumaran: Is that too much? Or I can say Friday.
1146 02:04:47.590 ⇒ 02:04:49.620 Hannah Wang: I mean, it’s up to, because Ann
1147 02:04:49.620 ⇒ 02:04:50.430 Uttam Kumaran: To Ann
1148 02:04:50.430 ⇒ 02:04:57.718 Hannah Wang: Yeah, so and future you, you could take a stab, stab at the diagrams and then just ping us or something
1149 02:04:58.050 ⇒ 02:05:02.600 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, it’s it’s kind of tough. Because again, we’re just like, this is our 1st time ever doing these. So
1150 02:05:02.600 ⇒ 02:05:02.980 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1151 02:05:04.500 ⇒ 02:05:09.559 Uttam Kumaran: And then I mean, I think, like I think we can get the Eden thing done by the end of the cycle
1152 02:05:10.700 ⇒ 02:05:17.470 Hannah Wang: Like if it means copying over to kind of look like the Javi one absolutely like that’s totally doable
1153 02:05:17.470 ⇒ 02:05:20.359 Uttam Kumaran: I think, like the no, like the final final version
1154 02:05:20.360 ⇒ 02:05:21.720 Hannah Wang: Oh, the final final
1155 02:05:21.720 ⇒ 02:05:22.180 Uttam Kumaran: But like
1156 02:05:22.780 ⇒ 02:05:23.100 Uttam Kumaran: But like
1157 02:05:23.100 ⇒ 02:05:28.340 Hannah Wang: Okay, I guess my question would be, I want to see when, like the first, st like
1158 02:05:28.560 ⇒ 02:05:31.479 Uttam Kumaran: A simple copy paste. Into this would go
1159 02:05:32.180 ⇒ 02:05:39.790 Uttam Kumaran: and then layering on some of this because again, like the the design Kit is that’s why I’m considering you’re working on basically
1160 02:05:39.910 ⇒ 02:05:41.379 Uttam Kumaran: all of these.
1161 02:05:42.080 ⇒ 02:05:48.749 Uttam Kumaran: this, this and this are getting worked on in parallel. Like as you guys are learning more about these 2. The diagram, the kit is improving.
1162 02:05:49.050 ⇒ 02:05:49.680 Hannah Wang: Right.
1163 02:05:50.560 ⇒ 02:05:51.220 Uttam Kumaran: Right.
1164 02:05:51.510 ⇒ 02:05:52.150 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1165 02:05:52.660 ⇒ 02:06:01.110 Uttam Kumaran: But I think my ask here would be, if you can just break down like a phased approach here, which is just like I would consider this like the the most simple version
1166 02:06:02.420 ⇒ 02:06:06.520 Uttam Kumaran: And then think about okay, what? Based on all my feedback here.
1167 02:06:06.680 ⇒ 02:06:08.720 Uttam Kumaran: what are the layers? We need to add?
1168 02:06:09.620 ⇒ 02:06:13.930 Uttam Kumaran: And I I think maybe. Let’s just let’s just see if we can add it to just this cycle overall
1169 02:06:14.110 ⇒ 02:06:15.509 Hannah Wang: Okay, like a v, 2,
1170 02:06:15.510 ⇒ 02:06:16.660 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
1171 02:06:16.660 ⇒ 02:06:18.029 Hannah Wang: Ish, okay.
1172 02:06:18.030 ⇒ 02:06:18.590 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
1173 02:06:19.030 ⇒ 02:06:21.949 Hannah Wang: Exactly like V, 2 or v, 3. By the end of the cycle, basically,
1174 02:06:24.270 ⇒ 02:06:25.030 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
1175 02:06:25.290 ⇒ 02:06:28.400 Uttam Kumaran: That’s why I’m gonna put this as Friday
1176 02:06:28.650 ⇒ 02:06:29.460 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1177 02:06:29.460 ⇒ 02:06:31.760 Uttam Kumaran: And then I’m gonna so then diagram kit.
1178 02:06:32.880 ⇒ 02:06:36.019 Uttam Kumaran: I would say, this isn’t going to be this, this is not this cycle
1179 02:06:36.020 ⇒ 02:06:37.790 Hannah Wang: No, it’s probably a couple
1180 02:06:37.790 ⇒ 02:06:42.670 Uttam Kumaran: Probably next. Yeah, I guess you you should let me know. So when when this is the cycle
1181 02:06:42.670 ⇒ 02:06:43.050 Hannah Wang: Okay.
1182 02:06:43.050 ⇒ 02:06:46.429 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna basically move this into ready.
1183 02:06:47.020 ⇒ 02:06:53.199 Uttam Kumaran: But also, I think we should break this down like, I’m gonna tag you guys
1184 02:06:54.480 ⇒ 02:06:58.030 Uttam Kumaran: Break this up into several tickets.
1185 02:06:58.970 ⇒ 02:07:03.419 Uttam Kumaran: Right? So what parts of the diagram kit are we working on? Is it just like
1186 02:07:04.000 ⇒ 02:07:07.540 Uttam Kumaran: research and requirements. Inspo, right? Like
1187 02:07:07.820 ⇒ 02:07:13.130 Uttam Kumaran: that way, we know is these are all part of this project. But of course the the diagram kit is like.
1188 02:07:13.840 ⇒ 02:07:18.370 Uttam Kumaran: this is a huge ticket, so we should break this up into like what the pieces are
1189 02:07:18.890 ⇒ 02:07:19.460 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1190 02:07:20.770 ⇒ 02:07:25.140 Uttam Kumaran: You know, like, and not even break into sub issues, break it into other tickets.
1191 02:07:26.420 ⇒ 02:07:28.449 Hannah Wang: And link the project
1192 02:07:28.450 ⇒ 02:07:29.120 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
1193 02:07:29.550 ⇒ 02:07:30.290 Hannah Wang: Okay.
1194 02:07:34.970 ⇒ 02:07:35.600 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
1195 02:07:35.910 ⇒ 02:07:45.019 Hannah Wang: Yeah, okay, sorry. My, I feel like this. Okay, so for the Javi arch diagram one, you gave review. So if you go into the sub
1196 02:07:45.240 ⇒ 02:07:48.850 Hannah Wang: like. If you go into Mar 1, 32, wait. Is that
1197 02:07:49.020 ⇒ 02:07:50.439 Uttam Kumaran: Can you click into that
1198 02:07:50.440 ⇒ 02:07:57.154 Hannah Wang: In in progress. So yeah, you just gave internal user feedback. So what like, where do we move the ticket
1199 02:07:57.490 ⇒ 02:08:00.959 Uttam Kumaran: Probably gonna have to move back to one of these like
1200 02:08:01.800 ⇒ 02:08:02.220 Hannah Wang: So we
1201 02:08:02.220 ⇒ 02:08:03.410 Uttam Kumaran: Back to midify.
1202 02:08:04.000 ⇒ 02:08:09.400 Hannah Wang: So move from done to in progress like move 1, 35,
1203 02:08:09.910 ⇒ 02:08:15.389 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, 1, 35, 1 36. So all of these. So this should probably move to
1204 02:08:17.250 ⇒ 02:08:21.340 Uttam Kumaran: like this would move to in progress. These would move to today
1205 02:08:22.000 ⇒ 02:08:22.870 Hannah Wang: Okay.
1206 02:08:22.870 ⇒ 02:08:26.829 Uttam Kumaran: Right. So it’s kind of like we’re gonna be in this cycle until until we nail it
1207 02:08:26.830 ⇒ 02:08:30.980 Hannah Wang: Okay, I just wanted to know, like how to move things back and forth
1208 02:08:30.980 ⇒ 02:08:39.030 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly so. I so like, ultimately, if we turn this into a project, these would all be issues, and then they would just we would be moving these side to side.
1209 02:08:39.890 ⇒ 02:08:45.940 Uttam Kumaran: What you can do now is you can basically say, cool. Let’s say, I want to go. And just look at all the sub issues.
1210 02:08:46.070 ⇒ 02:08:48.550 Uttam Kumaran: And let’s say, I want to filter to
1211 02:08:50.041 ⇒ 02:08:52.689 Uttam Kumaran: like. What was it the Javi?
1212 02:08:56.160 ⇒ 02:08:58.229 Uttam Kumaran: If I just want to filter to
1213 02:08:58.680 ⇒ 02:09:00.911 Uttam Kumaran: like? What is the name of the ticket
1214 02:09:01.190 ⇒ 02:09:02.260 Hannah Wang: Sure
1215 02:09:05.972 ⇒ 02:09:08.719 Uttam Kumaran: Java! Architecture diagram, right? So the title.
1216 02:09:10.520 ⇒ 02:09:14.810 Uttam Kumaran: How do I look at the heck?
1217 02:09:28.230 ⇒ 02:09:29.760 Hannah Wang: Project.
1218 02:09:35.350 ⇒ 02:09:36.469 Uttam Kumaran: I really can’t.
1219 02:09:39.340 ⇒ 02:09:41.780 Uttam Kumaran: You can’t like filter to a 1 fucking thing.
1220 02:09:43.200 ⇒ 02:09:43.760 Uttam Kumaran: What
1221 02:09:43.760 ⇒ 02:09:44.760 Hannah Wang: One ticket.
1222 02:09:49.630 ⇒ 02:09:50.780 Uttam Kumaran: That is weird.
1223 02:09:51.570 ⇒ 02:09:56.349 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? Well, I guess I’m just gonna filter to diagram kit. So yeah, basically, all of these will move back
1224 02:09:57.890 ⇒ 02:10:02.270 Hannah Wang: Hmm, and to to do, okay.
1225 02:10:02.570 ⇒ 02:10:05.750 Hannah Wang: okay, that’s helpful. And then that’s all tracked right?
1226 02:10:06.130 ⇒ 02:10:13.179 Uttam Kumaran: Yes. So that’s the thing is like we. I don’t want there to be like, I don’t want it to be like cool. We’re just gonna go back. But like we’re not gonna track it like
1227 02:10:13.180 ⇒ 02:10:13.930 Hannah Wang: Yeah, yeah.
1228 02:10:13.930 ⇒ 02:10:16.639 Uttam Kumaran: Otherwise, this is what’s unique about this team is
1229 02:10:17.160 ⇒ 02:10:22.330 Hannah Wang: Often in design, things may go back one or many steps ideally
1230 02:10:22.880 ⇒ 02:10:26.039 Uttam Kumaran: We? We caught some of this when it’s in Lo-fi right? But like
1231 02:10:26.040 ⇒ 02:10:27.820 Hannah Wang: Yeah, yeah. It was already done.
1232 02:10:27.820 ⇒ 02:10:29.160 Uttam Kumaran: It got done.
1233 02:10:29.380 ⇒ 02:10:36.710 Uttam Kumaran: I know. Nico pushed it. I know it got shipped, and that’s why I mean, that’s ultimately my job is to be like, let’s take A, let’s take a B and get it right
1234 02:10:36.900 ⇒ 02:10:37.510 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1235 02:10:37.650 ⇒ 02:10:42.830 Uttam Kumaran: So. Yeah, but this is also where, like if I if we mark these all as done.
1236 02:10:43.230 ⇒ 02:10:45.810 Uttam Kumaran: then I would be like cool. Let’s layer on more shit, you know.
1237 02:10:45.810 ⇒ 02:10:47.690 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, tough
1238 02:10:49.050 ⇒ 02:10:56.010 Hannah Wang: Okay, that’s helpful. Yeah, just I just I, I just wanna keep everything tracked. But I just didn’t know like how
1239 02:10:56.010 ⇒ 02:10:59.830 Uttam Kumaran: I agree. No, this is perfect. I think we’re in a much better space right now.
1240 02:11:01.440 ⇒ 02:11:04.270 Uttam Kumaran: like, I think we have the stuff for the socials
1241 02:11:05.090 ⇒ 02:11:15.720 Uttam Kumaran: right? Like, if I just was gonna look at what we’re really working on right now, we have stuff for operating. We have the stuff for the architecture diagrams. The one pagers are all in copy mode
1242 02:11:16.196 ⇒ 02:11:20.999 Uttam Kumaran: which are all blocked by me. But again, these are for this cycle. So we still have time.
1243 02:11:22.520 ⇒ 02:11:28.610 Uttam Kumaran: and then I feel pretty good about beginning to to
1244 02:11:28.780 ⇒ 02:11:31.539 Uttam Kumaran: just basically continue on on continuing up
1245 02:11:31.640 ⇒ 02:11:35.639 Uttam Kumaran: on these, you know, and ideally again, like, I feel like
1246 02:11:36.010 ⇒ 02:11:40.279 Uttam Kumaran: we have the marketing stuff. We have the architecture diagrams we have closing at the one pagers.
1247 02:11:40.810 ⇒ 02:11:44.219 Uttam Kumaran: That’s basically it. Like, that’s what we’re signed up on. You know.
1248 02:11:44.220 ⇒ 02:11:45.380 Hannah Wang: Yeah, yeah.
1249 02:11:46.930 ⇒ 02:11:49.569 Hannah Wang: Hiding the sub issues helps. I don’t like all those things
1250 02:11:49.570 ⇒ 02:11:55.169 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, hiding. Yeah, I think the hiding of sub issues help. And we’ll find out what naturally do we want to do sub issues? Or do we want to do
1251 02:11:55.550 ⇒ 02:11:55.930 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1252 02:11:55.930 ⇒ 02:12:00.100 Uttam Kumaran: Like. I think you’re right in that. The promotion should all be projects
1253 02:12:01.309 ⇒ 02:12:02.189 Hannah Wang: Because
1254 02:12:02.300 ⇒ 02:12:04.189 Uttam Kumaran: It’s going to span multiple cycles.
1255 02:12:04.530 ⇒ 02:12:05.180 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
1256 02:12:05.890 ⇒ 02:12:10.639 Uttam Kumaran: I think the other thing is like some of these. Architecture. Diagrams, I think, are are one ticket.
1257 02:12:12.460 ⇒ 02:12:17.549 Uttam Kumaran: But like partnership, Kit should most likely also end up being like a project
1258 02:12:18.960 ⇒ 02:12:19.400 Uttam Kumaran: Basically
1259 02:12:19.400 ⇒ 02:12:25.120 Hannah Wang: Yeah, like one pager should be a project like part. I don’t know, like, I feel like, it’s
1260 02:12:25.340 ⇒ 02:12:28.579 Hannah Wang: yeah. That’s why I have like v, 1 of one pagers. I feel like.
1261 02:12:28.980 ⇒ 02:12:34.279 Hannah Wang: maybe that’s a good way to cause it’s gonna span multiple cycles. I feel like I don’t know
1262 02:12:34.280 ⇒ 02:12:34.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
1263 02:12:36.920 ⇒ 02:12:43.449 Uttam Kumaran: Or it could just be like, yeah, it could be like one page or one page, Kit. And then it’s just like a we take on 5 of them this quarter.
1264 02:12:43.890 ⇒ 02:12:46.149 Uttam Kumaran: and then we go through multiple iterations of them
1265 02:12:46.830 ⇒ 02:12:47.170 Hannah Wang: Oh!
1266 02:12:47.170 ⇒ 02:12:49.119 Uttam Kumaran: Right like that’s sort of how we’ll think about it.
1267 02:12:49.290 ⇒ 02:12:53.819 Hannah Wang: Yeah, but we can talk about it in retro, just how to like reformat everything
1268 02:12:54.100 ⇒ 02:12:54.570 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
1269 02:12:56.140 ⇒ 02:12:59.360 Hannah Wang: But yeah helpful long meeting, but helpful.
1270 02:12:59.360 ⇒ 02:13:09.179 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah long meeting. But good, I know it’s I knew. It’s gonna it’s gonna take like long meetings like this to start to kick, start this. So this is fine. I’m glad I carved out the time. I’m late to another meeting
1271 02:13:09.675 ⇒ 02:13:10.170 Hannah Wang: Bye.
1272 02:13:10.170 ⇒ 02:13:13.849 Uttam Kumaran: Let me go to that, and then let me know if I can help with anything
1273 02:13:14.290 ⇒ 02:13:16.869 Hannah Wang: Okay, talk over slack everyone.
1274 02:13:16.870 ⇒ 02:13:18.620 Hannah Wang: Thank you. Thanks. Ryan.
1275 02:13:18.620 ⇒ 02:13:19.190 Hannah Wang: Okay.
1276 02:13:19.930 ⇒ 02:13:20.380 Uttam Kumaran: Bye.