Meeting Title: Eden Daily Standup Date: 2026-02-12 Meeting participants: Robert Tseng, Uttam Kumaran, Greg Stoutenburg, Casie Aviles, Zoran Selinger, Demilade Agboola, Ashwini Sharma, Amber Lin
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1 00:00:12.190 ⇒ 00:00:15.959 Uttam Kumaran: And good news, dude, it looks like we’re gonna get the Magic Spoon renewal. I’m…
2 00:00:16.340 ⇒ 00:00:19.840 Uttam Kumaran: Demi’s working on the SOW. I told him to try to get a year.
3 00:00:20.240 ⇒ 00:00:21.300 Robert Tseng: Oh, wow, cool.
4 00:00:21.300 ⇒ 00:00:23.129 Uttam Kumaran: A year, a year, 20K a month?
5 00:00:23.510 ⇒ 00:00:25.799 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that would be great.
6 00:00:26.500 ⇒ 00:00:30.659 Uttam Kumaran: they… They are like Element, except… Way easier.
7 00:00:31.640 ⇒ 00:00:34.349 Uttam Kumaran: Way easier. Yeah. And the same scale.
8 00:00:34.470 ⇒ 00:00:35.830 Uttam Kumaran: And way easier.
9 00:00:36.100 ⇒ 00:00:36.730 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
10 00:00:36.730 ⇒ 00:00:39.849 Uttam Kumaran: They’re like, oh, our DBT tests are failing, can you help?
11 00:00:40.240 ⇒ 00:00:42.249 Uttam Kumaran: I’m like, let’s go.
12 00:00:42.400 ⇒ 00:00:43.250 Robert Tseng: But…
13 00:00:43.250 ⇒ 00:00:48.699 Uttam Kumaran: Me and Davila were like, dude, the easy work.
14 00:00:54.440 ⇒ 00:00:57.839 Robert Tseng: Cool, I’d like to hear about the…
15 00:00:57.840 ⇒ 00:01:16.710 Robert Tseng: I guess I can… I can share quickly about the… how the LT sync went yesterday. I kind of left some comments in Slack already, so I’ve already kind of redirected people. I do think that they actually want to try to get the Omni thing done as… as ASAP, so I think that’s why I’ve been bumping… bumping you on that, Greg, and…
16 00:01:16.710 ⇒ 00:01:21.879 Robert Tseng: if we need to slow down on the other stuff, like, that’s… that’s fine. Like, I think that’s where your time should go.
17 00:01:23.730 ⇒ 00:01:35.929 Robert Tseng: And then, yeah, I think my kind of attention is a little bit more towards, now that Eden OS is wrapping up, and next week, just working more closely
18 00:01:36.100 ⇒ 00:01:39.860 Robert Tseng: with a WACH to make sure that once the,
19 00:01:40.410 ⇒ 00:01:48.809 Robert Tseng: that system goes live, that our telemetry is ready to go. So that’s kind of where my attention is going to be.
20 00:01:49.070 ⇒ 00:01:53.259 Robert Tseng: And then, obviously, Zoran, you have your workstream as well, so,
21 00:01:53.900 ⇒ 00:02:03.400 Robert Tseng: I guess the last thing that I’m planning to ship to them this week is the executive reporting is pretty much in a good place, that Google Sheet, so…
22 00:02:03.810 ⇒ 00:02:18.009 Robert Tseng: I just need to get the other agencies to start pushing data into that. So, that’s kind of what’s on my mind for, like, on my plate. So, I’d like to hear about the Omni kind of situation next.
23 00:02:19.290 ⇒ 00:02:37.870 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep, sounds good. Gustav is putting together a Gantt today, and I met with the team that’s gonna handle this migration this morning. Everyone’s got their deliverables in mind, and are ready to, you know, read docs, review everything that we need to review to meet with Max from Omni at 3 Eastern today.
24 00:02:37.870 ⇒ 00:02:42.070 Greg Stoutenburg: Thanks for that doc, Robert. So…
25 00:02:42.080 ⇒ 00:02:52.290 Greg Stoutenburg: Having identified priorities, yeah, having identified priority dashboards that they need to have moved over, I can… I’ll work with, Mustafa.
26 00:02:52.290 ⇒ 00:03:02.369 Greg Stoutenburg: Primarily, Mustafa’s gonna reach out to Demi and Awash as needed to make sure that we’ve got everything we need in BigQuery that’s going into Tableau to push it into Omni.
27 00:03:02.370 ⇒ 00:03:10.039 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s gonna get us… getting that data into Omni is gonna get us,
28 00:03:10.400 ⇒ 00:03:12.119 Greg Stoutenburg: Through the end of this week.
29 00:03:12.540 ⇒ 00:03:20.119 Greg Stoutenburg: You, Tom, did we get an Omni instance provision yet, or is that… That guy will give it to you.
30 00:03:20.360 ⇒ 00:03:25.050 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, that’s coming today. Or at least that’s something we’ll be talking about today.
31 00:03:27.020 ⇒ 00:03:29.869 Uttam Kumaran: When is that? That’s later? You can ask him for it earlier. I mean, I…
32 00:03:31.420 ⇒ 00:03:33.829 Uttam Kumaran: You should… if you’re like, yo, we’re gonna lose a day.
33 00:03:33.830 ⇒ 00:03:38.350 Greg Stoutenburg: Give it to us earlier, you can… Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, no, to be clear, we’re not, like, we’re not waiting on.
34 00:03:38.350 ⇒ 00:03:38.900 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.
35 00:03:38.900 ⇒ 00:03:41.289 Greg Stoutenburg: Nothing is held up right now.
36 00:03:41.820 ⇒ 00:04:00.179 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, so we’re getting going on that, yeah, Mustafa Scant is gonna have us go… we’re just gonna shoot for the 20th. We’re shooting for the 20th to get it all finished, and reviewed with, you know, the team this morning about what’s needed for topics, for the semantic layer,
37 00:04:00.320 ⇒ 00:04:04.230 Greg Stoutenburg: So that we can use the AI features in Omni right off the bat.
38 00:04:05.880 ⇒ 00:04:19.170 Robert Tseng: Okay, great. I mean, like, I think that hopefully our modeling doesn’t have to change very much to be able to build these out. Obviously, there were some, like, calculations that were done in Tableau, so… but nothing should be that hard to…
39 00:04:19.720 ⇒ 00:04:34.869 Robert Tseng: I understand if you have a hard time, like, kind of figuring out how something was calculated in Tableau, I think either, yeah, you can just add me and Dave Milade, and we’re the ones that are probably jumping into Tableau the most frequently on this… in this group, so, hopefully we can help unblock you there.
40 00:04:34.870 ⇒ 00:04:47.340 Robert Tseng: What I will say it’s really just the executive section, so there’s, like, 4 dashboards here. These are the ones that need to move over. For the product section, there’s really just two snapshots. These are, like, on daily schedules that are…
41 00:04:47.550 ⇒ 00:05:00.680 Robert Tseng: kind of sent into a Slack channel right now. These actually get viewed the most, because this is what ELT does, they don’t actually, like, click into the dashboards, they just look at these snapshots. So, I would say, like, those are probably pretty high-vis,
42 00:05:01.400 ⇒ 00:05:22.670 Robert Tseng: Yeah, and these should be the easiest. These are literally just tables that get sent in. Yeah, if we don’t end up covering, like, farm ops and finance, like, it’s fine. Like, you’ve met with Brad and… or I don’t know, someone there. Brad’s team just uses Monday anyway, so they’re not really even using this right now. So the farm ops and Finance are the lowest priority.
43 00:05:22.670 ⇒ 00:05:25.230 Robert Tseng: Even this marketing dash stuff, like.
44 00:05:26.300 ⇒ 00:05:35.269 Robert Tseng: I mean, the attribution dashboard, I mean, we’re kind of already, like, rebuilding this right now in the Google Sheets thing, so it’s also, like, not… I would say this is, like.
45 00:05:35.970 ⇒ 00:05:40.880 Robert Tseng: P2, if this is, like, P0, P1, and then P2. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
46 00:05:40.900 ⇒ 00:05:51.440 Greg Stoutenburg: Alright, great, yeah, that’s very helpful. Yeah, cool, and then I’ll just, you know, I’ll just continue servicing things in the channel and tagging folks as needed to move it forward.
47 00:05:52.260 ⇒ 00:05:52.880 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
48 00:05:53.740 ⇒ 00:05:56.550 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool.
49 00:05:57.460 ⇒ 00:06:21.949 Greg Stoutenburg: Next thing. Next thing on that. So this came up when Zoran and I were talking yesterday in the CSO meeting. So I guess I learned that the history of our engagement with Eden has been, like, you know, they’ll just ask a lot of questions. They’ll ask for a lot of ad hoc work. And so, as far as, like, making clear, for example, to Ryan that, I need to prioritize this other stuff, I mean, should I just tell them, like, hey, I gotta pause on the experimentation work for a week?
50 00:06:22.710 ⇒ 00:06:25.759 Greg Stoutenburg: You know, I can’t come to these meetings, I can’t deliver these things right now.
51 00:06:26.180 ⇒ 00:06:30.339 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, and if he has a problem with it, just send him to me, I’ll talk to him, yeah.
52 00:06:30.340 ⇒ 00:06:49.520 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah, and Zoran can contribute more to this, but I think Zoran’s had it more than I have, as far as the requests go, but the relationship has been, like, they sort of treat us like we’re full-timers, which is, you know, great to be trusted in that way, but, you know, I’ll get a message from Ryan at 7am that’s like, hey, schedule a call with you for 9, you know? Yeah, yeah.
53 00:06:49.790 ⇒ 00:06:50.300 Greg Stoutenburg: So…
54 00:06:50.300 ⇒ 00:06:50.860 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
55 00:06:52.790 ⇒ 00:06:55.520 Robert Tseng: Sure, so I would definitely just push back on that.
56 00:06:55.520 ⇒ 00:06:59.480 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I’m gonna… good.
57 00:07:00.010 ⇒ 00:07:03.630 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so I said in the meeting, Robert, as well, that,
58 00:07:03.890 ⇒ 00:07:20.110 Zoran Selinger: I’ve been ignoring basically 50% of his requests. I’ve never got any pushback because of that, just… Greg, I did not say that yesterday in the call, so there’s no consequences of doing that.
59 00:07:20.330 ⇒ 00:07:34.299 Zoran Selinger: But also, another point that I brought up yesterday, Robert, was, we initially set up, you know, the Q1 targets, so we can play defense on a lot of the things.
60 00:07:34.610 ⇒ 00:07:34.950 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
61 00:07:34.950 ⇒ 00:07:40.010 Zoran Selinger: And we are half, we are at, like, half Q1, and…
62 00:07:40.840 ⇒ 00:07:59.579 Zoran Selinger: at least on my side, we haven’t done a great part, great job on that, on playing defense, on a lot of that stuff. And that’s exactly what you were talking about before. I don’t… I think we could have probably done a little bit better on protecting our time.
63 00:07:59.600 ⇒ 00:08:03.610 Zoran Selinger: By… referring to those targets, right?
64 00:08:03.880 ⇒ 00:08:04.340 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
65 00:08:04.340 ⇒ 00:08:04.840 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
66 00:08:04.840 ⇒ 00:08:11.130 Robert Tseng: So what he’s referring to is, we had set a roadmap. They signed off on this, so we should just kind of anchor them to, like.
67 00:08:11.620 ⇒ 00:08:35.520 Robert Tseng: I mean, I know, I understand it’s hard for everyone to, like, know exactly all the things that we’re working on. There’s multiple work streams, priorities are always changing, but at least if your name is assigned to something here, or, like, something fits the workstream that you are in, if you’re getting a random ad hoc request, tell them that your priority is this whatever’s here, right? We have… at least you have the language here to kind of… and the context, describe
68 00:08:35.520 ⇒ 00:08:39.979 Robert Tseng: What your… what your objective is, why someone should be talking to you something… about something.
69 00:08:39.980 ⇒ 00:09:03.060 Robert Tseng: for them, they’re obviously just gonna kind of just chuck questions at everyone, even if they’re making the same request to multiple people, they just expect us to kind of be able to self-organize and triage it. So, if there’s ever any confusion, like, I don’t mind you guys, like, pinging me about these random ad hoc requests. I kind of can, like, I can hit them all in one go, when I meet with them on my, like, scheduled, cadences with them.
70 00:09:03.270 ⇒ 00:09:08.189 Robert Tseng: Obviously, if anything is very urgent, or feels urgent.
71 00:09:08.210 ⇒ 00:09:19.839 Robert Tseng: they will bubble it up to ELT, and ELT will just call me, and, like, you know, from there, I may have to, like, kind of do… have to react and do the dance, but that doesn’t happen that often anymore.
72 00:09:19.840 ⇒ 00:09:37.299 Robert Tseng: obviously it did last week because of the whole, like, affiliate situation, but, you know, we got… we got over that, and, like, I would say that happens maybe, like, once a month. So, like, generally, like, speaking, I think we can… we should feel empowered to be able to say no to things. Obviously, yeah, I wish I spent more time, kind of.
73 00:09:37.560 ⇒ 00:09:44.170 Robert Tseng: changing some of the… these docs, and I mean, that’s just… like, I… I… I have, like, a 15…
74 00:09:44.170 ⇒ 00:10:02.910 Robert Tseng: I have a 15-minute block every day that I set for myself to look through all the Eden reports and, like, check everything, but 15 minutes is realistically just not enough to keep up with everything that’s going on. So, I’m… I am dependent on you guys to kind of bubble up what’s the most urgent as well. I’m just not going to be able to catch it before you a lot of the time.
75 00:10:05.650 ⇒ 00:10:06.920 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, okay, sounds good.
76 00:10:06.920 ⇒ 00:10:21.919 Uttam Kumaran: That’s… that’s a lot of the… I just… maybe I can save my point. That’s a lot of the advice I gave to Zoran and Greg. I said, like, look, Eden, you guys are running your work streams. If you’re in a bind, you have to escalate, and you can let Robert be the tiebreaker, and he’s gonna be able to either say.
77 00:10:22.030 ⇒ 00:10:27.550 Uttam Kumaran: like… that’s not a priority, and let me go, like, here’s what to do. Or…
78 00:10:27.700 ⇒ 00:10:30.990 Uttam Kumaran: Like, that’s… that is a priority, you should shift.
79 00:10:31.120 ⇒ 00:10:36.900 Uttam Kumaran: Naturally, what Eden does, like any fast-growing kind of team, is they’ll just keep asking for more shit.
80 00:10:37.030 ⇒ 00:10:55.739 Uttam Kumaran: And you have to play defense. You have to make sure… and that’ll bubble up, like, you’ll… you’ll hit the groundhog, and then it’ll sort of bubble up to 50% ad hoc, and you’ll do it again and again. This is just data team stuff. So, you should expect that to happen, and then Robert, it’s sort of like your… Robert’s job is to sort of be like, okay, are…
81 00:10:55.740 ⇒ 00:11:03.940 Uttam Kumaran: are these ad hoc, like, recurring, and can we get scope and budget for that? Or if not, then ELT needs to come on top of those people and be like, that’s not a prior.
82 00:11:04.470 ⇒ 00:11:09.740 Uttam Kumaran: And that’s it, and that just… I think that loop just needs to happen more than every two weeks.
83 00:11:09.900 ⇒ 00:11:13.800 Uttam Kumaran: like, this meeting in particular, I feel like, can be a good place for…
84 00:11:14.180 ⇒ 00:11:20.869 Uttam Kumaran: some of that. Even once a week, like, yo, my ad hoc is getting, like, 60%, I need… I need to push back on XYZ, right?
85 00:11:21.140 ⇒ 00:11:25.479 Uttam Kumaran: As clients mature, this is what’s gonna happen, this is just, like, what happens in a data team.
86 00:11:25.580 ⇒ 00:11:31.449 Uttam Kumaran: Luckily, we are not an internal data team, and so we can actually basically go and be like, you need to pay us for this.
87 00:11:31.670 ⇒ 00:11:41.329 Uttam Kumaran: if you’re… if we’re an internal data team, they’re like, just, you work here, go do it, you’re W2. So, like, we are actually, I feel like, in a better, more leveraged spot.
88 00:11:41.570 ⇒ 00:11:43.669 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s my two cents there.
89 00:11:45.590 ⇒ 00:11:47.050 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, that sounds good, yeah.
90 00:11:47.050 ⇒ 00:11:47.720 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
91 00:11:47.720 ⇒ 00:11:55.810 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, and then I guess some of it is just volume, like, you know, like, some of the stuff Ryan’s asking, it does fit into row 2 there, but it’s just like…
92 00:11:55.940 ⇒ 00:11:58.929 Greg Stoutenburg: Like, he scheduled 3 meetings with me for tomorrow, like…
93 00:11:59.320 ⇒ 00:12:05.279 Greg Stoutenburg: We just need to reduce some, even if it does sort of fall under that project.
94 00:12:07.240 ⇒ 00:12:15.029 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, in a situation like that, I would just pick one to go to, and then just don’t show up for the other two, or just, like, decline the other two. Like, that’s usually what I do.
95 00:12:15.690 ⇒ 00:12:39.050 Robert Tseng: And, yeah, I guess, yeah, I will… I will actually… I’ll record a Zoom clip. I’ll, like, actually clean this up, right after this call. I just feel like it might help you guys, a bit more, so I’ll, I’ll probably end up… I’ll cut this down. I think we basically have, have, kicked some of these, till later, and it’s… yeah, anyway, I think it would be helpful for at least
96 00:12:39.200 ⇒ 00:12:42.109 Robert Tseng: Greg and Zoran, since you guys are in the most meetings with them.
97 00:12:42.460 ⇒ 00:12:43.369 Greg Stoutenburg: Sounds good.
98 00:12:44.050 ⇒ 00:12:45.050 Zoran Selinger: Cool, thanks.
99 00:12:46.820 ⇒ 00:12:52.119 Robert Tseng: Yeah, last thing on this, so… yeah, Amber, I know you were working on this,
100 00:12:52.490 ⇒ 00:12:57.900 Robert Tseng: I don’t know when we’re… like, is this still something that you plan to complete by the end of the week?
101 00:12:59.220 ⇒ 00:13:02.720 Amber Lin: Oh, yeah, I wanted to ask you…
102 00:13:03.180 ⇒ 00:13:09.660 Amber Lin: Like, I did the Google part, so you can expand the 30-day CPA to check by product.
103 00:13:10.150 ⇒ 00:13:17.250 Amber Lin: And then, for affiliates, would you also like a breakdown by product, or by affiliate?
104 00:13:17.550 ⇒ 00:13:18.780 Robert Tseng: Oh, just by affiliate.
105 00:13:20.510 ⇒ 00:13:28.219 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, so for each of… each of the ones, like, under spend and conversion rate and pay amount?
106 00:13:28.920 ⇒ 00:13:42.240 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so this is where, like, you need Awashi’s, like, offline spend. I mean, he said he was working on the model yesterday, so hopefully… I don’t think he added it in yet, but he should give you a breakout, just, like, another column that should have just affiliates.
107 00:13:43.330 ⇒ 00:13:54.049 Robert Tseng: Yeah, and then for… I guess for Meta, for TikTok, like, you would just do the same thing you did for Google, so hopefully that’s pretty straightforward. Lifecycle,
108 00:13:54.220 ⇒ 00:14:02.190 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I did say I was gonna rework this a little bit to make it clearer for Wish. I know he… ELT knows that this section will not be done this week, so I don’t really care about this.
109 00:14:02.190 ⇒ 00:14:12.409 Amber Lin: Okay. Yeah. Meta… Meta, I can do. TikTok, I don’t have numbers for yet, I think, and then once Affiliate is there, I can do it.
110 00:14:13.350 ⇒ 00:14:23.219 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so let’s, let’s just… just nudge, just nudge away on the progress for this one, because, it would be great if we could at least get up to this done by the end of the.
111 00:14:23.220 ⇒ 00:14:25.210 Amber Lin: Yeah, yeah, can do that.
112 00:14:25.210 ⇒ 00:14:26.300 Robert Tseng: Okay, great.
113 00:14:29.710 ⇒ 00:14:33.300 Robert Tseng: Okay, anything else?
114 00:14:40.650 ⇒ 00:14:44.760 Robert Tseng: Cool. If not, I do have a couple…
115 00:14:45.020 ⇒ 00:14:52.739 Robert Tseng: I have, like… I do have a call with Ryan later today, so if you guys want me to speak about anything with him, he’s just basically wanting
116 00:14:53.120 ⇒ 00:14:57.219 Robert Tseng: He wants to basically walk me through how he…
117 00:14:57.940 ⇒ 00:15:01.149 Robert Tseng: catches issues right now, because he…
118 00:15:01.170 ⇒ 00:15:15.129 Robert Tseng: Obviously, he’s been kind of taking a lot of heat from ELT for things that have been breaking, and he just wants our help to see if we can basically set up any data alerts for him. And you know, I don’t know if it’s just a matter of bringing him into our Slack, and he can go see
119 00:15:15.130 ⇒ 00:15:23.519 Robert Tseng: we only have dbt model, like, kind of failure, like, notifications, so I’m not exactly sure what kind of thing we can build for him, but…
120 00:15:23.880 ⇒ 00:15:27.219 Robert Tseng: That’s… that’s what I agreed to talk to them about later today.
121 00:15:27.220 ⇒ 00:15:40.259 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah, Robert, related to that, actually, I meant to bring this up before. I looked through the consultant, the Mixed panel consultant stock, a couple of times. He mentions the identity thing. I don’t see what the evidence is that there are
122 00:15:40.260 ⇒ 00:15:58.990 Greg Stoutenburg: duplicates? Like, I don’t… I don’t know what it is that he saw or that Ryan sees that makes him concerned about this. When I look at Mixpanel, and, you know, I share those docs, like, yeah, this API looks like the way to do it, okay, great. But it already exists in Mixpanel. Like, it’s already in there. So I don’t… at this point, I kind of just want to go back to Ryan and say, like, hey, as far as I can tell, this actually is set up, can you see
123 00:15:59.630 ⇒ 00:16:02.110 Greg Stoutenburg: where Josh thought there was an issue.
124 00:16:02.960 ⇒ 00:16:03.479 Greg Stoutenburg: But if we’re…
125 00:16:03.480 ⇒ 00:16:13.089 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think that’s… that’s fair. I mean, I feel like I… when Henry was here, he had already dealt with that issue, so I was a little confused when, that was…
126 00:16:13.320 ⇒ 00:16:15.129 Robert Tseng: That was the takeaway from his audit.
127 00:16:15.460 ⇒ 00:16:17.169 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah, okay.
128 00:16:17.550 ⇒ 00:16:18.140 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
129 00:16:18.330 ⇒ 00:16:22.760 Robert Tseng: And ELT’s questions to you are not… I don’t think they understand either, they’re just like…
130 00:16:22.850 ⇒ 00:16:30.350 Robert Tseng: you know, that guy’s… that guy’s audit, I mean, we’re… we’re basically… you presented the experimentation roadmap.
131 00:16:30.350 ⇒ 00:16:44.160 Robert Tseng: and from Eden’s perspective, they’re just gonna be like, well, what’s stopping us from doing these things? Why are we not doing these things already? Or, like, what unique insights do you have? So, I’m just… I’m not, like… I’m just passing that through so you can get a sense of, like, how they…
132 00:16:44.290 ⇒ 00:16:47.159 Robert Tseng: how they react to the things we show them. So, like…
133 00:16:47.330 ⇒ 00:16:51.570 Robert Tseng: I don’t know, whenever we do something that’s just purely strategy or, like, roadmap.
134 00:16:51.570 ⇒ 00:17:10.910 Robert Tseng: they’re always going to ask for the next question, so, like, we just need to anticipate, at least give them something to bite onto, some recommendation, or, like, hey, some interesting finding, like, that’s… that was, like, what Henry struggled to do before, as well, so I, you know, I’m hoping that as you’re kind of spending more time here, you will just pick out… pick out a nugget, let them, like.
135 00:17:10.910 ⇒ 00:17:16.790 Robert Tseng: Look at an example, probably more so than just, like, just the high level of this is, like, what we.
136 00:17:16.790 ⇒ 00:17:19.570 Greg Stoutenburg: Fixed it, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, yep, noted.
137 00:17:19.780 ⇒ 00:17:20.440 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
138 00:17:21.730 ⇒ 00:17:32.870 Greg Stoutenburg: Now, for, you know, I mean, would it have been enough on that particular slide to say, like, okay, here’s what the recommendations are, the next step is meeting with Ryan and Danny this week to reprioritize the roadmap.
139 00:17:33.520 ⇒ 00:17:36.169 Greg Stoutenburg: Or do they want to hear something like, we’re going to launch this?
140 00:17:36.760 ⇒ 00:17:55.930 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think they’re gonna be, like, they want… they’re gonna want to hear, like, this is actually what Danny and Ryan are doing, or have been doing. We think that they should do X instead, and they’ll be like, oh, good, sure. Or they’ll have opinions about it. I think they… they… they trust us to push things along.
141 00:17:56.440 ⇒ 00:18:05.369 Robert Tseng: More so than… like, they give us a lot more agencies to just, like, call our shot and just take it, compared to…
142 00:18:05.630 ⇒ 00:18:23.159 Robert Tseng: you know, most of the other clients that we’re working with. Like, Element, we can’t really say anything, because everything has to be filtered through Shivani currently. So, like, I think we… we have this position where if we tell, just like how Zoran, like, he… or you and Zoran combined, made segments, told Judd, implement this.
143 00:18:23.190 ⇒ 00:18:25.200 Greg Stoutenburg: And they… and that… that’s…
144 00:18:25.270 ⇒ 00:18:44.690 Robert Tseng: that that’s what he’s going to be held to. So, I… you know, I think it’s… it’s kind of just use your… use your judgment. I think you’re… you guys are both spending enough time in the work to have an informed opinion. If you’re, like, hesitating because you don’t know whether or not to… like, how far to commit your recommendation, I can help
145 00:18:44.690 ⇒ 00:18:47.439 Robert Tseng: Like, kind of, you dial in, like.
146 00:18:47.530 ⇒ 00:18:53.749 Robert Tseng: what’s, like, an appropriate test? Like, how do we phase this out? Like, those types of… those types of, things, but, like.
147 00:18:53.750 ⇒ 00:19:08.750 Robert Tseng: generally, like, we are here to stir the pot, like, we don’t… we do want to actually push them to take actions, because I think that will help… that helps us, get better visibility as well, even if it just means that we’re learning something, and it’s not going to be, like, a full-fledged rollout, right?
148 00:19:09.880 ⇒ 00:19:12.650 Robert Tseng: Yeah, anyway, like, I think that’s… that’s maybe…
149 00:19:24.800 ⇒ 00:19:26.459 Demilade Agboola: Robert’s prison, right?
150 00:19:29.680 ⇒ 00:19:30.740 Demilade Agboola: Harbors?
151 00:19:45.600 ⇒ 00:19:49.870 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, you’re frozen. Don’t know if you can hear us. We can’t hear you.
152 00:19:52.120 ⇒ 00:19:53.510 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, we can’t hear you.
153 00:19:53.850 ⇒ 00:19:57.079 Greg Stoutenburg: Oh, you’re good. I said I’m good. Okay.
154 00:20:00.070 ⇒ 00:20:00.889 Greg Stoutenburg: See you guys.