Meeting Title: Eden Daily Standup Date: 2026-01-29 Meeting participants: Greg Stoutenburg, Robert Tseng, Awaish Kumar
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1 00:00:34.180 ⇒ 00:00:35.280 Robert Tseng: Hey, Greg.
2 00:00:35.280 ⇒ 00:00:36.530 Greg Stoutenburg: Hey, Robert, how’s it going?
3 00:00:37.060 ⇒ 00:00:45.899 Robert Tseng: Short on time, just, like, things kind of carried over. I have a… I have a lead call in, like, 7 minutes, so we’ll just do this real quick.
4 00:00:46.250 ⇒ 00:00:46.820 Greg Stoutenburg: Sure.
5 00:00:51.360 ⇒ 00:00:52.240 Awaish Kumar: I…
6 00:00:52.980 ⇒ 00:00:53.580 Robert Tseng: Hey.
7 00:00:53.580 ⇒ 00:00:54.240 Greg Stoutenburg: Anyways…
8 00:00:56.750 ⇒ 00:00:58.679 Robert Tseng: Okay, who wants to go first?
9 00:00:59.580 ⇒ 00:01:00.029 Greg Stoutenburg: You can go reverse.
10 00:01:00.030 ⇒ 00:01:03.200 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I can go, like… So, I have a…
11 00:01:03.870 ⇒ 00:01:08.770 Awaish Kumar: I have shared the, like, in the Slack message, I have shared the Notion document, Robert.
12 00:01:09.510 ⇒ 00:01:13.060 Robert Tseng: Then that, like, database has two different,
13 00:01:13.060 ⇒ 00:01:29.970 Awaish Kumar: pages. One is regarding more about data QA, which, like, what’s in the data, and what are the different meaning of things, as self-described. And the second one, which it says, Eden GLP-1 platform, it is more, like, based on our yesterday’s conversation.
14 00:01:30.490 ⇒ 00:01:38.100 Awaish Kumar: it says that, like, the system he’s building is Eden OS, in the current form, it’s not the…
15 00:01:38.240 ⇒ 00:01:40.430 Awaish Kumar: replacement for VASC.
16 00:01:40.620 ⇒ 00:01:44.160 Awaish Kumar: It is missing some features, and it is also missing some…
17 00:01:44.860 ⇒ 00:01:49.820 Awaish Kumar: some data which we need for our existing reporting. For example.
18 00:01:49.920 ⇒ 00:01:54.230 Awaish Kumar: You already know, like, membership plan, like,
19 00:01:54.460 ⇒ 00:02:00.280 Awaish Kumar: For example, vial sizes, medications, so, like, the product variants, so…
20 00:02:00.690 ⇒ 00:02:07.249 Awaish Kumar: all of that stuff is not there yet. Like, when I talked about Ray and he said, we only have JP1,
21 00:02:07.420 ⇒ 00:02:12.090 Awaish Kumar: Which will come as one product, and then I don’t know how that variant will
22 00:02:12.420 ⇒ 00:02:18.709 Awaish Kumar: variation, like, how those variants will be handled until I have the data. So, right now.
23 00:02:19.330 ⇒ 00:02:27.540 Awaish Kumar: So, based on all this conversation, I have wrote down everything, what he said, and then based on that, what we can accomplish.
24 00:02:27.930 ⇒ 00:02:34.730 Awaish Kumar: So, like, we can’t re… so basically, we can’t replace existing reporting with
25 00:02:35.000 ⇒ 00:02:42.520 Awaish Kumar: With this one, and also, I don’t think there’s a way to, like, merge both of them right now, because…
26 00:02:43.050 ⇒ 00:02:58.960 Awaish Kumar: we don’t have all those things. Like, for example, a table called product sales summary will basically require membership plan data. If we don’t have that, I can’t create the similar level of product sales summary from the EMR system.
27 00:02:59.340 ⇒ 00:03:01.649 Awaish Kumar: So, there are a few things like that.
28 00:03:02.570 ⇒ 00:03:07.640 Awaish Kumar: So, what I propose based on that is, like, we create a separate reporting
29 00:03:07.830 ⇒ 00:03:12.890 Awaish Kumar: Whatever is coming through the MR, based on that, we are going to create
30 00:03:13.000 ⇒ 00:03:23.660 Awaish Kumar: e-commerce smart, like, orders, order item, product, pharmacy, and whatever information for the products I could get, and how, like, and whatever…
31 00:03:23.800 ⇒ 00:03:28.759 Awaish Kumar: on whatever granularity, like, for example, if I have file sizes, and if I have product name.
32 00:03:29.020 ⇒ 00:03:32.579 Awaish Kumar: And, things like that. So we…
33 00:03:32.850 ⇒ 00:03:43.199 Awaish Kumar: Can have that, based, like, based on whatever data we get in the current system, and… but that will be totally, separate
34 00:03:43.410 ⇒ 00:03:48.190 Awaish Kumar: Like, reporting, or you could say separate dashboards than the existing ones.
35 00:03:50.370 ⇒ 00:04:04.690 Robert Tseng: Okay, well, God, this is gonna be a mess. Well, we are gonna basically start moving forward with the pilot for, for Omni, so they are gonna move off Tableau. So we have, like, about a month to basically get off Tableau before the renewal.
36 00:04:04.980 ⇒ 00:04:07.769 Robert Tseng: There aren’t that many reports, but we’re just gonna be…
37 00:04:08.040 ⇒ 00:04:26.930 Robert Tseng: I guess, like, the benefit is… yes, I understand… what I’m hearing is we can start building a set of different models for this system. You’re saying that you can’t really build the same thing, because entities or whatever, the concepts are different. So, fine, I can understand that Remo was built differently than BASC.
38 00:04:28.690 ⇒ 00:04:40.549 Robert Tseng: So rather than trying to rebuild the models that are powering Tableau, we’re just gonna build models with what we do have, and it basically needs to
39 00:04:41.380 ⇒ 00:04:53.230 Robert Tseng: I mean, the end goal is still we need to have the same reports, or similar reports from Tableau and Omni. So, like, I just care about, like, whether or not we’re going to be able to do that.
40 00:04:54.550 ⇒ 00:05:13.560 Awaish Kumar: So, yeah, like, not at the moment, right? As you heard, sir, like, he said, when I talked about membership plan, he said, I… we don’t have in the data yet. Also, when I talk about… talked about bundles, he said, that’s also not part of the scope. So, like, in the existing system, we have bundles, we have…
41 00:05:13.690 ⇒ 00:05:26.620 Awaish Kumar: information about membership plan, and also, when I talked about discounts, he said that’s not flowing in the database yet, so I can’t really have the discounts data in EMR right now.
42 00:05:27.500 ⇒ 00:05:28.390 Awaish Kumar: So…
43 00:05:30.110 ⇒ 00:05:42.650 Awaish Kumar: From this system, like, it’s not possible to create everything, because the tableau will ask for some fields which are not there. Hence, either it will break, or have some nulls, or this kind of thing.
44 00:05:44.650 ⇒ 00:06:00.279 Robert Tseng: Okay, well, I would want you to kind of research… like, know clearly, yes, there are these dependencies on some of these, like, BASC concepts that we don’t have in the EMR, but what can we actually replicate? Like, what… when we… yeah, like, obviously this is going to be a phased rollout, they’re going to be building some of the stuff
45 00:06:00.610 ⇒ 00:06:06.300 Robert Tseng: why, but, like, what are we able to actually replicate? If the answer is nothing, then we’re in a bad place.
46 00:06:07.730 ⇒ 00:06:11.910 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, so what I’m… yeah, what I’m trying to say is that, like.
47 00:06:12.520 ⇒ 00:06:15.380 Awaish Kumar: We are not looking for a com- like…
48 00:06:15.870 ⇒ 00:06:23.020 Awaish Kumar: as it is, like, the Basque tables. What I’m trying to say is that the current Eden system Is…
49 00:06:23.440 ⇒ 00:06:32.640 Awaish Kumar: Like, for example, it needs to have 20 different features to become a 100% e-com platform for, like.
50 00:06:32.790 ⇒ 00:06:39.270 Awaish Kumar: per selling with, like, whatever Eden is selling. Eden products, right? So…
51 00:06:39.490 ⇒ 00:06:42.649 Awaish Kumar: It’s not there yet, because it is missing some of the features.
52 00:06:42.750 ⇒ 00:06:53.869 Awaish Kumar: Right? So we can’t do exactly product sales summary kind of reporting right now. But what we can do is, we can come up with fact orders, we can come up with order line tables, we can come up with,
53 00:06:54.190 ⇒ 00:06:59.860 Awaish Kumar: Like, revenue numbers, And this pen numbers as a separate
54 00:07:00.110 ⇒ 00:07:07.930 Awaish Kumar: dashboards. But when we are going to come talk about NKEx and things like that, that might not be possible right now.
55 00:07:08.440 ⇒ 00:07:28.110 Robert Tseng: Okay, well, that’s… that’s what I’m saying. I need to know what can we actually move over, because they… they’re… they don’t care about the models that we’re building. They only care about the reports. So, what reports are we going to be able to replicate now? Which reports can we not do until later? Like, I think that’s… that’s… I don’t know how much… I mean, that’s… that’s what I’m trying to say. Like, that’s… that’s what this finding
56 00:07:28.500 ⇒ 00:07:29.950 Robert Tseng: should come, come, come with.
57 00:07:31.400 ⇒ 00:07:35.700 Awaish Kumar: Okay, so yeah, I can go over the… through the… I can go over the.
58 00:07:35.700 ⇒ 00:07:43.390 Robert Tseng: I mean, I need a clear answer on that. Like, I feel like we’ve been dancing around this for, like, a couple weeks. I understand that the table… underlying tables are different.
59 00:07:43.390 ⇒ 00:07:58.910 Robert Tseng: Like, and all the concepts have changed, whatever. That’s fine. Like, I think you need to do the investigation and come back, and you know what reports are… we already have, what the upstream dependencies are, so, like, what will we actually be able to do now? That’s… that’s the… that’s the question.
60 00:08:02.660 ⇒ 00:08:12.299 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, we can obviously deliver, like, reporting on revenue, like, for Josh Table, for example, which has only revenue information.
61 00:08:12.300 ⇒ 00:08:23.059 Robert Tseng: Exactly. That’s what I need. That level of, this live report can be replicated with the new system. We can do this within 2 weeks. That’s what I want to be able to say.
62 00:08:23.120 ⇒ 00:08:33.640 Robert Tseng: Other things, I understand. They’re not going to be able to move everything. So then we need to just tell them, well, some of these features haven’t been built out, and so this is the phased rollout. Like, that’s how it needs to be communicated.
63 00:08:36.450 ⇒ 00:08:37.360 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
64 00:08:42.309 ⇒ 00:08:46.980 Awaish Kumar: Okay. Yeah, so… I think it… yeah, but I…
65 00:08:48.310 ⇒ 00:09:07.569 Robert Tseng: So, like, what, do you need another Gantt chart to communicate? I mean, I don’t know what else, like, I don’t want to just have you build docs for the sake of building docs, but, like, I feel like there’s all this stuff here, and my main question hasn’t been answered yet. So, it’s just, what can we move now? What needs to be moved later? And, like, that needs… that’s what I need to be able to put on the next… on the next…
66 00:09:07.570 ⇒ 00:09:11.080 Robert Tseng: I mean, frankly, it should have been on this week’s slide, it wasn’t there, so, like.
67 00:09:11.140 ⇒ 00:09:22.469 Robert Tseng: I would like to send it out, like, end of this week, if possible. Otherwise, like, it’s gotta go out early next week. Because they’re sitting there, yeah, I can distract them with all this other data work they’re doing, but ELT is just sitting there asking.
68 00:09:22.470 ⇒ 00:09:33.850 Robert Tseng: what is, like, what are we doing on the data… on the data side in… in… on the… on… for EdenOS? And that’s… that is the biggest question. So, like, that… we have not answered what… yeah, we haven’t answered that yet.
69 00:09:35.250 ⇒ 00:09:51.549 Awaish Kumar: I understand your point of view, but, like, also doing an audit and all this, like, it took time for me to come up with whatever I have right now. I can, like, come to the point where you are saying, like, I can list down the exact
70 00:09:51.680 ⇒ 00:09:57.960 Awaish Kumar: Reports, which are possible, which are not, like, in a… in a tabular format in our data platform documentation.
71 00:09:58.450 ⇒ 00:10:16.509 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, I mean, there’s… this needs to be redone, like, there’s just, like, this stuff, like, Amber’s getting back into this, and I think she’s a good proxy for other analysts. I’m sure Greg, if he doesn’t hear, he has no idea what the heck most of this stuff is. So, I… I mean, I just need to rethink how we’re gonna do data platform documentation. I feel like this has just been, like, we have this.
72 00:10:16.510 ⇒ 00:10:29.339 Robert Tseng: here, but literally nobody uses it, because nobody understands how to follow this. So, I don’t think people still understand what the point of this table is versus this table, and, like, whatever. So, like, there… there is, like, a…
73 00:10:29.340 ⇒ 00:10:36.560 Robert Tseng: there are a lot of moving pieces. Like, I can handle the… I can handle the communication piece. I’m telling you the message I want to send.
74 00:10:36.560 ⇒ 00:10:49.509 Robert Tseng: But, like, I do need you to do the digging so that you can actually, like, help me answer things. So, I think that’s how it’s gonna prepare. Like, I don’t… I don’t need you to come in and rebuild these docs. Like, I’m gonna have to just… have to gut this and redo it over the weekend, is basically what I’m gonna do.
75 00:10:51.060 ⇒ 00:10:51.800 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
76 00:10:52.890 ⇒ 00:11:03.949 Robert Tseng: Yeah, otherwise, like, Amber’s just gonna be grabbing your time, Demulani’s time, like, she ran, like, her analysis with me yesterday, completely was using the wrong, like, tables, like, she just has no frickin’ clue what to use in the data warehouse.
77 00:11:03.950 ⇒ 00:11:16.139 Robert Tseng: So, it’s like, all this is for shot. We have, like, our GitHub repo, we have this, we have all these different sources of documents, and the only analyst on this client has no idea what tables to use. Like, I just… I don’t know how to help that situation.
78 00:11:19.270 ⇒ 00:11:19.950 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
79 00:11:21.790 ⇒ 00:11:31.509 Robert Tseng: Yeah, in my opinion, this is, like, on the D… this is the DE’s responsibility. You don’t just build models, you need to make sure people know how to use them, but fine, I understand if the documentation piece has just been…
80 00:11:31.510 ⇒ 00:11:43.790 Robert Tseng: Like, nobody’s been maintaining this. So, yeah, like, to me, that’s the highest leverage thing, rather than setting up another 2 or 3 meetings with Amber to help her get her work done. Like, I’d rather spend an hour trying to rethink how this augmentation should work.
81 00:11:46.640 ⇒ 00:11:47.130 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
82 00:11:47.130 ⇒ 00:11:52.040 Robert Tseng: Okay, I do gotta jump to a sales call, so that’s all I got for now, but, alright, talk to you guys later.