Meeting Title: Eden Daily Standup Date: 2026-01-16 Meeting participants: Casie Aviles, Henry Zhao, Zoran Selinger, Amber Lin, Robert Tseng
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1 00:02:09.410 ⇒ 00:02:11.830 Robert Tseng: Hello, everyone.
2 00:02:17.460 ⇒ 00:02:21.780 Robert Tseng: Okay, let’s get started.
3 00:02:22.560 ⇒ 00:02:24.929 Robert Tseng: Zoran, do you wanna… do you wanna go first?
4 00:02:26.700 ⇒ 00:02:28.650 Zoran Selinger: Sure, sure. So…
5 00:02:28.810 ⇒ 00:02:42.339 Zoran Selinger: Not many updates, actually, from yesterday. I’m still… still working on churn rates, trying to define that. It’s so many different statuses, and just working on that.
6 00:02:42.340 ⇒ 00:02:48.730 Robert Tseng: You wanna just call them? I see you guys, like, kinda on this thread, back and forth, and, like, feel like you guys could just sort it out on a call.
7 00:02:49.110 ⇒ 00:03:08.420 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah. But I think I, I might have just done it, working on it right now. But it’s, yeah, the treatment is, is, is the right way to go there, you just, just need to figure out exactly, kind of, what the transitions are. But, okay, that’s, that’s, that’s fine.
8 00:03:08.540 ⇒ 00:03:22.199 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so I’m still waiting for some feedback on the KPI dash from Ryan. He said he’s gonna give it to me today. I gave you a couple of notes in linear about the catalyst.
9 00:03:22.570 ⇒ 00:03:24.859 Zoran Selinger: That might be good to present.
10 00:03:25.010 ⇒ 00:03:26.090 Zoran Selinger: on there.
11 00:03:27.400 ⇒ 00:03:33.850 Zoran Selinger: I kind of put that as the priority for today. You wanted those slides, so… .
12 00:03:34.760 ⇒ 00:03:36.459 Robert Tseng: Oh, great.
13 00:03:36.460 ⇒ 00:03:37.020 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
14 00:03:38.240 ⇒ 00:03:40.310 Robert Tseng: Yeah. What is it called again?
15 00:03:45.880 ⇒ 00:03:46.690 Robert Tseng: this…
16 00:03:46.690 ⇒ 00:03:57.650 Zoran Selinger: We’re still waiting for some feedback on NordBeam. They haven’t replied to the latest email, where I explained that it’s them, it’s only them. I put some,
17 00:03:58.190 ⇒ 00:04:01.850 Zoran Selinger: stats in… in linear.
18 00:04:02.220 ⇒ 00:04:03.760 Robert Tseng: Oh, they were in linear. Okay.
19 00:04:04.260 ⇒ 00:04:06.740 Zoran Selinger: So, yeah, it… You say.
20 00:04:06.740 ⇒ 00:04:07.430 Robert Tseng: Oh, right?
21 00:04:07.430 ⇒ 00:04:10.130 Zoran Selinger: I’ll give you some… some states you might present it.
22 00:04:10.130 ⇒ 00:04:11.060 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, sure, I can.
23 00:04:11.060 ⇒ 00:04:16.850 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so we have an improved conversion rate, in the last,
24 00:04:17.120 ⇒ 00:04:20.779 Zoran Selinger: So, basically, like, if we frame it, like.
25 00:04:21.290 ⇒ 00:04:27.980 Zoran Selinger: Everyone converts better on our side, so that will result in more conversions for partner traffic as well.
26 00:04:28.580 ⇒ 00:04:34.170 Zoran Selinger: And when we actually compare Our commissions and sales and all that.
27 00:04:34.510 ⇒ 00:04:42.219 Zoran Selinger: Month-to-date versus previous month, we see some good, good improvements there.
28 00:04:43.810 ⇒ 00:04:53.859 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, like, sorry, let me just try to, like, digest this. I haven’t actually looked at this. So, yeah, I mean, I tried to outline what I was thinking in terms of stories. Okay, so…
29 00:04:55.620 ⇒ 00:04:58.290 Robert Tseng: You can keep the one that’s already there…
30 00:04:59.350 ⇒ 00:05:06.280 Robert Tseng: I’m not really sure what that means. I kind of, like, was thinking we would have something to say about 2025, like.
31 00:05:06.420 ⇒ 00:05:21.929 Robert Tseng: the previous, you know, was… maybe we had, like, 3 points of, like, you know, there’s… I’m trying to establish some contrast in, like, the before to now, like, what… what changes we made, so maybe it’s just a recap of things. That’s where I… what I intended on this slide. You know what I mean?
32 00:05:24.000 ⇒ 00:05:28.740 Robert Tseng: So… It was like… .
33 00:05:32.540 ⇒ 00:05:41.699 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, I thought you wanted something kind of more, let’s call it snappy, so I think just showing, like, a few
34 00:05:41.830 ⇒ 00:05:44.199 Zoran Selinger: Scorecards or a graph.
35 00:05:46.500 ⇒ 00:06:01.160 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, that’s… I mean, yeah, but I guess I just… I need to, like, kind of set the stage. I need to, like, refresh them on, like, this is where you were before, and this is where you are after, like, I… I don’t know, that’s… that’s kind of, like, what I… I mean, I…
36 00:06:02.220 ⇒ 00:06:14.179 Zoran Selinger: Oh, you know what I was thinking, Robert? I was thinking literally about 3 short slides that you would show directly to partners.
37 00:06:14.420 ⇒ 00:06:15.999 Zoran Selinger: That’s what I was thinking.
38 00:06:16.440 ⇒ 00:06:21.479 Robert Tseng: I… Yeah, well, I mean, you expected to just copy-paste these images and just show them?
39 00:06:21.480 ⇒ 00:06:28.249 Zoran Selinger: No, no, no, not necessarily, but that’s the, that’s the data that we could show,
40 00:06:28.250 ⇒ 00:06:42.120 Zoran Selinger: That could be attractive to new partners, basically. So, as you can see, our commissions grew, stuff like that. Our conversion rate is better, so that will result in more money for them.
41 00:06:42.190 ⇒ 00:06:45.500 Zoran Selinger: This is what I was, coming off of, basically.
42 00:06:45.770 ⇒ 00:06:47.360 Robert Tseng: I see.
43 00:06:47.360 ⇒ 00:06:56.040 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so that’s the frame, essentially. Just trying to make the case that they should, they should partner with us.
44 00:06:56.260 ⇒ 00:06:56.810 Zoran Selinger: Ow.
45 00:06:58.140 ⇒ 00:07:12.290 Robert Tseng: Okay, for the second, I was thinking we would need some sort of frame. Okay, well, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I get it, you threw, like, some stats at me, and I guess I just… I need to synthesize it, but I’m having a hard time doing so. Okay, so,
46 00:07:13.960 ⇒ 00:07:15.620 Robert Tseng: Alright, so…
47 00:07:15.620 ⇒ 00:07:22.870 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, I mean, obviously, I can go in and do a little bit more. I can actually give you slides.
48 00:07:23.080 ⇒ 00:07:38.509 Robert Tseng: Yeah, you don’t have to give me the slides, I just need you to give me the text, like, give me the context. Like, I think I… this is a sa- I’m trying to set the stage, 2025 versus 2026. This is, like, okay, this is actually, like, what we do to, like…
49 00:07:38.770 ⇒ 00:07:47.439 Robert Tseng: set up some, like, success. Like, I… I… I mean, what I’m getting from… what I’m… what I’m picking up from what I’m seeing is…
50 00:07:47.770 ⇒ 00:07:56.339 Robert Tseng: We improve conversions, We… drive… like, you know, I just… I don’t really know, is there…
51 00:07:57.000 ⇒ 00:07:57.760 Robert Tseng: I’ll, like, I don’.
52 00:07:57.760 ⇒ 00:08:11.220 Zoran Selinger: rates are higher, so commission per sale is 5% higher here, so that isn’t necessarily from our work, it’s just that that’s a stat that could be interesting to partners, right?
53 00:08:11.520 ⇒ 00:08:18.460 Zoran Selinger: That’s what I was thinking. I wasn’t thinking about, about the, The…
54 00:08:20.090 ⇒ 00:08:25.830 Zoran Selinger: the internal presentation, but the kind of external, I guess, external pitch.
55 00:08:26.470 ⇒ 00:08:30.230 Zoran Selinger: Like, as you were saying about us,
56 00:08:31.230 ⇒ 00:08:40.780 Zoran Selinger: kind of having a… being at a, in a bad… bad place with… and they talk to each other, so I just kind of wanted to… to…
57 00:08:41.760 ⇒ 00:08:50.959 Zoran Selinger: To find stats that will, that we can say to them that will directly end in more money for, for, for them, essentially.
58 00:08:51.190 ⇒ 00:08:55.460 Zoran Selinger: But we can go into a little bit more detail for internal stuff, sure.
59 00:08:56.370 ⇒ 00:09:13.319 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, it is internal to be external. Like, I need to tell ELT, like, what they need to know so that they can go and talk to the publishers. Like, I can… yeah, I don’t… I think if I just… if I literally just took what you gave me and I passed it to them, I don’t think they would know what to do with it.
60 00:09:13.430 ⇒ 00:09:14.110 Robert Tseng: Right.
61 00:09:22.010 ⇒ 00:09:23.810 Robert Tseng: Okay, it’s fine, I think I will…
62 00:09:23.810 ⇒ 00:09:26.770 Zoran Selinger: So it’s the… the slide…
63 00:09:26.770 ⇒ 00:09:37.909 Robert Tseng: I’m gonna have many questions. I’m gonna… I’m gonna need to spend, like, 30 minutes kind of, like, putting this together. I’m gonna have a lot of questions, so I’m probably gonna call you a bunch or something, I don’t know, like, I’m… I’m gonna, like, yeah, so…
64 00:09:38.020 ⇒ 00:09:40.750 Robert Tseng: I mean, you’ll see a bit more, I mean, I tried.
65 00:09:40.750 ⇒ 00:09:43.119 Zoran Selinger: Do you want me to first do that?
66 00:09:45.020 ⇒ 00:09:46.110 Robert Tseng: I mean…
67 00:09:46.110 ⇒ 00:09:47.509 Zoran Selinger: I set up the structure.
68 00:09:47.510 ⇒ 00:09:58.479 Robert Tseng: Like, I thought this was, like, something that you could work off of, I don’t know. Like, you tell me, is this… is it too little, too much? That’s what I was… that’s what I asked. Like, I think I brought it.
69 00:09:58.480 ⇒ 00:10:04.560 Zoran Selinger: I didn’t even see those slides, I just worked off of the ticket.
70 00:10:04.870 ⇒ 00:10:05.560 Robert Tseng: Okay.
71 00:10:05.720 ⇒ 00:10:07.820 Robert Tseng: Yeah. Yeah.
72 00:10:08.070 ⇒ 00:10:11.080 Robert Tseng: Yeah, okay, I don’t… I don’t think we were on the same page on this. Okay.
73 00:10:11.080 ⇒ 00:10:11.410 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
74 00:10:11.920 ⇒ 00:10:21.409 Zoran Selinger: So, I think so. Yeah. That’s the case, yeah. I sent you a Slack message, I guess it didn’t really end up in the ticket, so it’s… that’s… I guess that’s my bad, so…
75 00:10:21.410 ⇒ 00:10:25.700 Robert Tseng: Yeah, if you could, like, at least do…
76 00:10:26.130 ⇒ 00:10:43.179 Robert Tseng: one more pass on this, like, I mean, we can walk through specifically what I was trying to do with these slides, so once again, like, this is the 2025 versus 2026. This is, like, some methodology. You don’t need to do all the fancy, like, diagrams or whatever. You just have to tell me, like, okay.
77 00:10:43.200 ⇒ 00:10:47.069 Robert Tseng: Maybe, maybe, we’re more…
78 00:10:47.100 ⇒ 00:10:51.320 Robert Tseng: You know, what… what… what is… if the outcome is…
79 00:10:52.120 ⇒ 00:10:57.439 Robert Tseng: Higher dollar per, like, higher commission per conversion?
80 00:10:58.110 ⇒ 00:11:03.069 Robert Tseng: how do you get there? What are the inputs? Right? We are increasing the number of…
81 00:11:04.100 ⇒ 00:11:11.459 Robert Tseng: Like, the… like, you’re… you’re, you’re tracking more, so, like, the overall, like, volume of, like.
82 00:11:11.590 ⇒ 00:11:15.960 Robert Tseng: transactions as high, or possibly, like, I’m just… I’m just… I’m… I’m trying to just…
83 00:11:16.280 ⇒ 00:11:22.029 Robert Tseng: you know, try to articulate what these inputs are. There’s… there’s… there’s… there’s higher volume.
84 00:11:22.030 ⇒ 00:11:46.119 Robert Tseng: the quality is perhaps better, or, like, I don’t know, maybe they have some staged, like, reward for what you get paid for an MQL versus SQL versus, like, for a final purchase. Those have different thresholds for, like, what the payout is. Like, I… that’s likely how their affiliate contract is structured. Like, I don’t know exactly what the contract is, I would…
85 00:11:46.120 ⇒ 00:11:49.489 Robert Tseng: You know, so… so that’s… that’s another input. It’s like…
86 00:11:49.600 ⇒ 00:11:59.979 Robert Tseng: you have more people going through the links that we’re able to capture. They’re going farther in the process, so they’re higher quality.
87 00:11:59.980 ⇒ 00:12:09.740 Robert Tseng: And when those two things are combined, you get higher commission per, like, per conversion, right? Does that make sense? Like, that’s… that’s the equation.
88 00:12:12.170 ⇒ 00:12:13.010 Zoran Selinger: True, okay.
89 00:12:13.010 ⇒ 00:12:13.540 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
90 00:12:13.710 ⇒ 00:12:25.969 Robert Tseng: So, I mean, I don’t know if you know, like, the commission per sale, like, you know we pay commission not just on sale, we also get commission on just clicks. So, I think there’s…
91 00:12:26.550 ⇒ 00:12:33.760 Robert Tseng: I… we could… I don’t know if Ryan knows… I mean, yeah, I mean, ideally, we would have known this already, but, like…
92 00:12:33.920 ⇒ 00:12:45.019 Robert Tseng: on, like, how the… how the deal is structured, but, like, we… we… we pay commission at different stages in the funnel. Like, that’s… that’s how most affiliate, contracts are structured.
93 00:12:47.900 ⇒ 00:12:52.109 Zoran Selinger: And when we do reconciliation, Are we doing double…
94 00:12:52.370 ⇒ 00:12:59.060 Zoran Selinger: Those stages as well, or we’re just doing the reconciliation on the sale basis?
95 00:12:59.390 ⇒ 00:13:04.580 Robert Tseng: Yeah, but then in reconciliation, we’re only looking at the sale, right? And so it basically kind of, like.
96 00:13:05.120 ⇒ 00:13:09.029 Robert Tseng: It smooths out, like, that.
97 00:13:10.750 ⇒ 00:13:19.749 Zoran Selinger: it doesn’t tell the full story. Like, it only tells, like, the, oh, if we were only… if we’re only looking at sales, like, what would the, like, commission per sale be? But, like…
98 00:13:19.750 ⇒ 00:13:28.729 Robert Tseng: in reality, we’re paying out more than just a sale, right? That… that was the problem previous… we ran into a couple, like, kind of hurdles with this, right? We…
99 00:13:28.810 ⇒ 00:13:46.460 Robert Tseng: we, we were overpaying, we kind of withheld more money, we were not… and then Mitesh was asking, like, no, we’re not paying them enough, because we’re no longer sending them, or we’re no longer paying them for transactions, or, like, for clicks that didn’t end up going all the way through, right? So he was trying to, like.
100 00:13:46.460 ⇒ 00:13:53.640 Robert Tseng: you know, kind of move us away… move us back from only compensating on the sale, right? Like, that… do you remember that part?
101 00:13:53.900 ⇒ 00:13:54.520 Zoran Selinger: Yep.
102 00:13:54.720 ⇒ 00:13:58.039 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, so, like, so yeah, like, I think that he was…
103 00:13:58.140 ⇒ 00:14:01.589 Robert Tseng: I mean, I wish that he explicitly said, like.
104 00:14:02.220 ⇒ 00:14:17.929 Robert Tseng: I mean, I guess… yeah, I… I didn’t realize we didn’t… we were not on the same page on this, but, like, yeah, they’re… they get paid on the sale and also on the click. I mean, so, we… they needed to get credit for the clicks as well, because that’s part of, like, the way that they get paid.
105 00:14:17.930 ⇒ 00:14:27.840 Robert Tseng: So anyway, like, I guess maybe we lacked some, context on there. So, I’ll, like, I’ll basically try to draft out the slide, and…
106 00:14:27.880 ⇒ 00:14:37.420 Robert Tseng: We may not have the answers, like, I may just, like, run it by Mitesh and, like, have him plug it in, so, I… I can… I can… I can build a slide, that’s fine.
107 00:14:37.420 ⇒ 00:14:37.980 Zoran Selinger: Okay.
108 00:14:37.980 ⇒ 00:14:49.840 Robert Tseng: But yeah, I do think that… do I have enough here? I don’t know. Like, I… I… my guess is, like, I don’t, so that’s why I said I’m gonna need 30 minutes, and I’m gonna probably ask you a bunch of questions.
109 00:14:49.840 ⇒ 00:14:51.810 Zoran Selinger: Okay, let me know. Okay. Okay.
110 00:14:51.810 ⇒ 00:14:52.360 Robert Tseng: Yep.
111 00:14:52.490 ⇒ 00:14:53.260 Robert Tseng: Alright.
112 00:14:58.020 ⇒ 00:15:16.300 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so that’s top priority, so… actually, Amber, I’m probably not gonna have time to… I mean, I don’t actually… I don’t know, I’ll… I’ll, we’ll cancel our Eden sync, me and Amber. I know that you’re waiting… that you have something on ABC, but I’m gonna do this Eden thing first, and then if I have time afterwards, I’ll do the ABC thing.
113 00:15:16.500 ⇒ 00:15:17.329 Amber Lin: Cool, okay.
114 00:15:17.480 ⇒ 00:15:18.639 Robert Tseng: Yeah. Okay.
115 00:15:19.480 ⇒ 00:15:25.769 Robert Tseng: Alright, sorry, we spent a lot of time on that one.
116 00:15:25.770 ⇒ 00:15:33.290 Henry Zhao: And then regarding Catalyst, they’re still doing the monthly manual reconciliation in the meantime, so Casey, I just sent that back to you, and sent you the directions.
117 00:15:34.430 ⇒ 00:15:35.040 Casie Aviles: Okay.
118 00:15:36.190 ⇒ 00:15:37.360 Casie Aviles: Yeah, got your message.
119 00:15:37.360 ⇒ 00:15:44.130 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so we have a ticket now to try to do that automatically. Do we have a ticket, Casey?
120 00:15:44.510 ⇒ 00:15:47.230 Zoran Selinger: Because we did talk about the…
121 00:15:49.630 ⇒ 00:15:52.099 Zoran Selinger: Somewhere, in one of the meetings.
122 00:15:52.530 ⇒ 00:15:53.669 Casie Aviles: For Catalysts.
123 00:15:57.680 ⇒ 00:16:01.230 Casie Aviles: Yeah, no, not specifically for Catalyst yet, like, if it’s really…
124 00:16:01.230 ⇒ 00:16:07.170 Zoran Selinger: It should be. I think I’ve created it under a catalyst project.
125 00:16:07.980 ⇒ 00:16:09.709 Casie Aviles: Okay, yeah, I’ll take a look at that.
126 00:16:11.620 ⇒ 00:16:24.219 Zoran Selinger: Catalyst attribution… And there is… Yeah, or automate monthly reconciliation, Eden1326.
127 00:16:24.640 ⇒ 00:16:26.950 Zoran Selinger: 1326 ticket.
128 00:16:30.110 ⇒ 00:16:34.859 Zoran Selinger: So he is assigned to, Ashvini at the moment.
129 00:16:37.690 ⇒ 00:16:38.480 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
130 00:16:40.040 ⇒ 00:16:41.199 Zoran Selinger: That’s the one.
131 00:16:43.790 ⇒ 00:16:49.770 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so I have no idea exactly how that works, and so I just wanted to see
132 00:16:50.040 ⇒ 00:16:55.359 Zoran Selinger: If someone can give a little bit more, context to… to Ashwini before he starts.
133 00:16:57.770 ⇒ 00:17:02.649 Casie Aviles: Okay, last I did it, I was just, running a query, and then…
134 00:17:03.360 ⇒ 00:17:06.460 Casie Aviles: Giving them a spreadsheet, like, of the updated…
135 00:17:06.460 ⇒ 00:17:07.589 Zoran Selinger: Oh, you were, you were doing…
136 00:17:08.059 ⇒ 00:17:11.149 Casie Aviles: Okay. For… yeah, I did it for November.
137 00:17:14.930 ⇒ 00:17:15.710 Zoran Selinger: Okay.
138 00:17:15.839 ⇒ 00:17:16.569 Zoran Selinger: Okay.
139 00:17:19.160 ⇒ 00:17:22.539 Robert Tseng: Okay, do I need to add anything to this, or is it clear now?
140 00:17:23.589 ⇒ 00:17:28.249 Zoran Selinger: If Casey knows what we need to do, then we’re fine, we’re fine.
141 00:17:28.250 ⇒ 00:17:28.840 Robert Tseng: Okay.
142 00:17:29.000 ⇒ 00:17:35.419 Henry Zhao: Yeah, Casey has a query, so he can just work with Ashwini on the API, and then once you have the API, the query can just be run on dbt.
143 00:17:36.680 ⇒ 00:17:37.200 Zoran Selinger: Excellent.
144 00:17:37.200 ⇒ 00:17:37.720 Casie Aviles: Okay.
145 00:17:38.920 ⇒ 00:17:40.670 Robert Tseng: Okay,
146 00:17:40.930 ⇒ 00:17:59.390 Robert Tseng: Greg is just blocked. I think he just still is not able to really find his bearings in Mixpanel. I just don’t think he knows how to navigate it. So, I think Zoram, thanks for sending the video, but yeah, I just… he doesn’t have any docs to look through, he just… he’s just kind of poking around in there, so he’s… he’s not… he’s not picking it up quickly.
147 00:17:59.700 ⇒ 00:18:02.369 Robert Tseng: At least not as quickly as I hoped.
148 00:18:02.610 ⇒ 00:18:06.310 Robert Tseng: So, I don’t think he’ll end up finishing this today, either. So…
149 00:18:08.130 ⇒ 00:18:11.039 Henry Zhao: Do you want me to spend any more time with him to go over Mixpanel?
150 00:18:11.940 ⇒ 00:18:15.520 Robert Tseng: I… don’t know. I… did you spend time with him? Like, I…
151 00:18:15.520 ⇒ 00:18:15.940 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
152 00:18:15.940 ⇒ 00:18:16.270 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
153 00:18:16.270 ⇒ 00:18:19.549 Henry Zhao: Like, all the docs, quote-unquote, are in the lexicon.
154 00:18:19.920 ⇒ 00:18:24.290 Henry Zhao: Like, there’s no Excel docs or anything, but, like, the data is documented in Lexicon.
155 00:18:24.950 ⇒ 00:18:26.430 Robert Tseng: In… in Mixpanel.
156 00:18:29.210 ⇒ 00:18:30.250 Robert Tseng: Yeah…
157 00:18:35.220 ⇒ 00:18:37.159 Henry Zhao: Like, I’m just not sure what he’s stuck on.
158 00:18:37.160 ⇒ 00:18:45.650 Robert Tseng: I don’t know, he just needs to look at intakes. I don’t know what the heck is taking him so long. Probably take me, like, 30 minutes to do. Like, I don’t understand what he… I don’t know why he would be stuck on this.
159 00:18:53.470 ⇒ 00:18:58.739 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, they’re just page views, and you’re, like, looking through stuff, like, the slugs are there, like, I don’t understand, like…
160 00:18:58.980 ⇒ 00:18:59.980 Henry Zhao: Yeah, and, like, the naming…
161 00:18:59.980 ⇒ 00:19:00.340 Zoran Selinger: Nope.
162 00:19:00.340 ⇒ 00:19:02.399 Henry Zhao: It’s all pretty self-explanatory. I loaded a page.
163 00:19:02.400 ⇒ 00:19:06.749 Zoran Selinger: They are not, Robert. I don’t think they are. So…
164 00:19:06.750 ⇒ 00:19:08.320 Robert Tseng: Okay, let’s just pull it up.
165 00:19:11.300 ⇒ 00:19:15.560 Henry Zhao: But I will say the slug documentation is not great, and I’ve asked Ryan to help with that.
166 00:19:17.960 ⇒ 00:19:22.029 Zoran Selinger: I mean, the URL doesn’t change in the… in the intake.
167 00:19:23.990 ⇒ 00:19:24.490 Robert Tseng: Can… can…
168 00:19:24.490 ⇒ 00:19:25.010 Henry Zhao: At some point.
169 00:19:25.010 ⇒ 00:19:28.720 Robert Tseng: me to a report, just, like, give me something to look at. Conversion by.
170 00:19:28.720 ⇒ 00:19:29.480 Henry Zhao: Yeah, just that one.
171 00:19:30.330 ⇒ 00:19:31.020 Robert Tseng: Okay.
172 00:19:31.540 ⇒ 00:19:51.129 Henry Zhao: Yeah, so we added a new, filter that, like, maps the slug to the, like, product name, but it’s very incomplete. So what I had been doing is literally just going to those pages and, like, seeing what the intake form is. Like, I’m just going to app.tryeden.com slash start onlinevisit slash Z771Q, and if it says, what’s your weight loss goal? I know it’s weight loss.
173 00:20:04.220 ⇒ 00:20:06.319 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, now, when you go through.
174 00:20:08.130 ⇒ 00:20:19.539 Zoran Selinger: I don’t know if GTM sees history changes, but there’s no history changes if there… if there’s no, like, hashtag changes in there. So I don’t know…
175 00:20:21.680 ⇒ 00:20:24.440 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, he’s having a hard time seeing the intake steps.
176 00:20:24.640 ⇒ 00:20:27.140 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so that’s what he’s working on, this is what.
177 00:20:27.140 ⇒ 00:20:27.540 Henry Zhao: Right.
178 00:20:27.540 ⇒ 00:20:39.980 Zoran Selinger: He’s looking… he’s looking at clicks and trying to figure out how he can actually know where we are. And now, this might be… might even be a mute point right now, because we’re switching soon.
179 00:20:41.070 ⇒ 00:20:42.180 Zoran Selinger: So I don’t know.
180 00:20:44.760 ⇒ 00:20:55.370 Henry Zhao: Yeah, so the steps is very poorly documented, because Ryan is in control of that, and he makes so many changes, he doesn’t want to spend time documenting it, but I’ll give him tips that the best way to look at the steps is through the funnel report.
181 00:20:55.600 ⇒ 00:21:01.249 Henry Zhao: Yeah, we’ve talked to Ryan about this before, but a funnel report would be the best way to look at steps. I should give him that guidance.
182 00:21:04.440 ⇒ 00:21:07.059 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, and we don’t… yeah, it’s just.
183 00:21:07.940 ⇒ 00:21:08.879 Henry Zhao: So if you go to Create New.
184 00:21:08.880 ⇒ 00:21:11.059 Zoran Selinger: It’s hard to know where we… where we are.
185 00:21:11.960 ⇒ 00:21:14.339 Henry Zhao: Do a funnels, flows, flows, yeah.
186 00:21:14.970 ⇒ 00:21:21.600 Henry Zhao: So if you do flows, I would say the best way is to just select step as intake started, and then look at, like, 20 steps after that.
187 00:21:26.290 ⇒ 00:21:35.879 Henry Zhao: And here’s where you would see, really, the steps. So, like, if you go to loaded page 84.9% on A plus 1, that’s probably the page 2, right? But you’ll see, like, how many people go back, how many people…
188 00:21:36.340 ⇒ 00:21:40.859 Henry Zhao: like, end up leaving, or dropping off, right? Like, so here’s how I would look at steps.
189 00:21:57.080 ⇒ 00:22:01.139 Henry Zhao: I have a recording of the Mixpanel training too, I’ll share that with Greg as well. You should watch that.
190 00:22:08.460 ⇒ 00:22:23.969 Robert Tseng: Well, I know this is your last day, like, if you could just consolidate things and, like, hand it out, like, I don’t… I mean, we’re not gonna have another chance to be like, oh, wait, actually, I had this thing, or, like, I… like, whatever, like, I just… I don’t know, like, I’m kind of…
191 00:22:24.930 ⇒ 00:22:29.640 Robert Tseng: I feel like he’s just starting from square one again, and it’s kind of, like, frustrating to me.
192 00:22:31.680 ⇒ 00:22:38.140 Robert Tseng: That, like, I’ve cycled through, like, 4 people on Mixpanel, and every single time, someone has to start from scratch.
193 00:22:48.900 ⇒ 00:22:50.070 Robert Tseng: remote path.
194 00:22:50.610 ⇒ 00:22:54.269 Henry Zhao: Okay, I’ll give it some thought and send him everything I have for a mixed panel.
195 00:23:06.040 ⇒ 00:23:10.329 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, I think that right now, the best thing we can have is
196 00:23:10.460 ⇒ 00:23:14.420 Zoran Selinger: The click text of whatever element is clicked on.
197 00:23:14.720 ⇒ 00:23:23.829 Zoran Selinger: You can only infer by the text what’s being clicked on, and… Where a person proceeded.
198 00:23:24.270 ⇒ 00:23:39.380 Zoran Selinger: And it’s very… I mean, that’s very dynamic. They will change intakes, and so it’s… it’s difficult. I don’t know what the… what the new, their own system is gonna look like, if… if that’s gonna make it easier for us or not.
199 00:23:42.040 ⇒ 00:23:45.719 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, there’s just a lot of moving parts on this right now.
200 00:23:45.840 ⇒ 00:23:49.119 Zoran Selinger: Mitesh wants that as well, and we don’t have it.
201 00:23:49.900 ⇒ 00:23:58.670 Zoran Selinger: We’re still kind of struggling to understand exactly what all the steps are, and how to properly track them.
202 00:24:00.780 ⇒ 00:24:01.360 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
203 00:24:04.680 ⇒ 00:24:09.709 Robert Tseng: Okay. I feel like Gregor’s just gonna run to a dead end. This is, like, probably not a good use of time.
204 00:24:12.480 ⇒ 00:24:16.449 Robert Tseng: I’m just not thinking about it right now. Okay, well, I…
205 00:24:17.090 ⇒ 00:24:34.059 Robert Tseng: As far as, like, the Eden OS telemetry, like, I don’t know… Oasis doesn’t join these calls anymore, I don’t even know what the progress is there, so I feel like I’m just in the dark on too many things. Like, I… it’s, like, taken me some time to just go ramp back up on one… on one workstream at a time. I can’t… I can’t really do all five, it’s just not really possible.
206 00:24:34.130 ⇒ 00:24:39.130 Robert Tseng: So, alright, anyway, I think this was… yeah, thanks for showing me the stuff, I…
207 00:24:39.430 ⇒ 00:24:42.860 Robert Tseng: I’m gonna have to go back to the drawing board and kind of figure some things out.
208 00:24:44.020 ⇒ 00:24:45.070 Zoran Selinger: Okay. Okay.
209 00:24:45.110 ⇒ 00:24:46.600 Robert Tseng: Alright, thanks everyone.
210 00:24:46.810 ⇒ 00:24:47.490 Robert Tseng: Right.
211 00:24:47.850 ⇒ 00:24:48.380 Zoran Selinger: Thanks, Matt.