Meeting Title: Planning: Honey Stinger-Readme-Eden-Insomnia Date: 2025-11-17 Meeting participants: Awaish Kumar, Mustafa Raja, Gabriel Lam, Uttam Kumaran, Samuel Roberts, Demilade Agboola, Robert Tseng, Rico Rejoso, Henry Zhao, Casie Aviles, Zoran Selinger
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1 00:02:58.890 ⇒ 00:03:02.740 Awaish Kumar: otro.
2 00:03:02.850 ⇒ 00:03:05.040 Awaish Kumar: dosiro?
3 00:03:07.980 ⇒ 00:03:09.320 Awaish Kumar: Bora.
4 00:03:09.440 ⇒ 00:03:12.170 Awaish Kumar: Well, it’d be great to meet some of them.
5 00:03:35.230 ⇒ 00:03:36.770 Uttam Kumaran: Hello, everyone!
6 00:03:42.750 ⇒ 00:03:45.610 Uttam Kumaran: Demolata, you’re in a dream of mine, dude.
7 00:03:45.890 ⇒ 00:03:48.520 Uttam Kumaran: I had a dream that we were, like.
8 00:03:48.630 ⇒ 00:03:54.430 Uttam Kumaran: we… you were, like, visiting some place that I was also visiting, and then, like, we met up.
9 00:03:56.840 ⇒ 00:04:01.660 Demilade Agboola: I mean, that’s… where did that happen? Like, what’s the place?
10 00:04:01.840 ⇒ 00:04:03.160 Awaish Kumar: Less snow.
11 00:04:03.360 ⇒ 00:04:12.210 Uttam Kumaran: No, it was somewhere… it was somewhere, like, it was somewhere warm, and I think, like, we were gonna go play tennis or something, and…
12 00:04:14.240 ⇒ 00:04:15.999 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, to be fair.
13 00:04:16.000 ⇒ 00:04:16.350 Demilade Agboola: and…
14 00:04:16.350 ⇒ 00:04:16.730 Uttam Kumaran: trying to…
15 00:04:16.730 ⇒ 00:04:18.870 Demilade Agboola: I think this does sound like me, to be fair.
16 00:04:20.079 ⇒ 00:04:29.509 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and I… you know, of course, if we were in the same area, we would totally link up, you know? So it’s a very realistic dream, like, nothing out of the ordinary.
17 00:04:32.230 ⇒ 00:04:33.210 Demilade Agboola: Fair enough, fair enough.
18 00:04:35.540 ⇒ 00:04:38.800 Uttam Kumaran: How’s everything? How’s the… How was the weekend?
19 00:04:41.760 ⇒ 00:04:43.149 Demilade Agboola: It was fine.
20 00:04:43.330 ⇒ 00:04:45.790 Demilade Agboola: Sim old, same old.
21 00:04:48.120 ⇒ 00:04:49.070 Uttam Kumaran: Played soccer.
22 00:04:49.790 ⇒ 00:04:50.380 Uttam Kumaran: Football?
23 00:04:50.380 ⇒ 00:04:58.069 Demilade Agboola: I haven’t played football in, like, a week, or maybe two. I kind of twisted my uncle, so…
24 00:04:58.490 ⇒ 00:05:04.909 Demilade Agboola: It kind of hurts to put weight on it, and because it’s my right ankle.
25 00:05:05.630 ⇒ 00:05:10.390 Demilade Agboola: And I’m right-footed, so, like, hitting… kicking the ball and all of that…
26 00:05:10.560 ⇒ 00:05:13.440 Demilade Agboola: puts a lot of pressure on my right ankle, so I haven’t played in a minute.
27 00:05:13.440 ⇒ 00:05:14.190 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm.
28 00:05:16.750 ⇒ 00:05:19.340 Henry Zhao: I get this cool brain ditch background, by the way.
29 00:05:20.650 ⇒ 00:05:24.180 Uttam Kumaran: Go, go to backgrounds, I loaded it in.
30 00:05:24.550 ⇒ 00:05:28.400 Uttam Kumaran: Oh. I loaded it into the default Zoom backgrounds, I think.
31 00:05:28.700 ⇒ 00:05:37.119 Uttam Kumaran: See, when I procrastinate, I end up just doing stupid things like this, like, oh, I’m worried about… I was like, one day, I was like.
32 00:05:37.130 ⇒ 00:05:38.920 Henry Zhao: It’s, like, 9 o’clock, I’m like…
33 00:05:39.380 ⇒ 00:05:49.589 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, why can’t I not put default backgrounds? Like, and then I figured it out. So I think if you go to settings, and you go to, videos and effects.
34 00:05:51.060 ⇒ 00:05:54.380 Uttam Kumaran: You should see it, although if you don’t see it, let me know.
35 00:05:56.500 ⇒ 00:05:57.799 Henry Zhao: Virtual backgrounds…
36 00:06:01.530 ⇒ 00:06:03.450 Henry Zhao: Well, I don’t see it.
37 00:06:04.150 ⇒ 00:06:08.719 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, there’s one there called a Christmas background, but here, I’ll also send you the backgrounds.
38 00:06:10.280 ⇒ 00:06:14.939 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll send you the drive link for backgrounds, but I uploaded it, so maybe I should check.
39 00:06:20.770 ⇒ 00:06:26.270 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool, so we have, who are we missing? Missing anybody?
40 00:06:26.660 ⇒ 00:06:27.730 Uttam Kumaran: They’re on?
41 00:06:27.890 ⇒ 00:06:29.539 Uttam Kumaran: I know Amber’s out today.
42 00:06:35.560 ⇒ 00:06:38.580 Henry Zhao: Yeah, we need Zoran to give an update on Eden, but I can also do it.
43 00:06:38.970 ⇒ 00:06:39.850 Henry Zhao: It doesn’t show up.
44 00:06:39.850 ⇒ 00:06:48.280 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and we’re gonna kind of do a little bit of a change in, like, organization, kind of how we’re running these, so I’ll just wait for Isaran to join.
45 00:06:49.320 ⇒ 00:06:52.930 Henry Zhao: Yeah, we might need Demolade or Oasis’ help for something on Eden.
46 00:06:53.110 ⇒ 00:06:54.120 Henry Zhao: Just a heads up.
47 00:06:54.770 ⇒ 00:06:55.130 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
48 00:06:55.130 ⇒ 00:06:56.350 Henry Zhao: Spoiler alert.
49 00:07:32.920 ⇒ 00:07:42.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I sent him a note, but maybe let’s just get started. So yeah, Robert, I guess we can talk a little bit about how we’re thinking about doing things.
50 00:07:43.140 ⇒ 00:07:59.360 Uttam Kumaran: Ideally not forever, but at least for however long we need to do this. So, kind of, like, maybe I’ll start, and I gave a little bit of a brief to some of the AI guys in the last meeting, but we’re just, like, kind of expanding, so,
51 00:08:00.200 ⇒ 00:08:05.819 Uttam Kumaran: I think we just need to continue to evolve, like, how we deliver. I’m also interested
52 00:08:06.330 ⇒ 00:08:12.930 Uttam Kumaran: kind of to hear from other folks who have been in the agency world, like Demolade or other folks.
53 00:08:13.130 ⇒ 00:08:25.370 Uttam Kumaran: You know, I don’t know how you guys scaled this at DataCulture, or whether it was even effective, but one of the things that we’re sort of running into now is we have
54 00:08:25.470 ⇒ 00:08:30.990 Uttam Kumaran: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9… And…
55 00:08:32.080 ⇒ 00:08:38.969 Uttam Kumaran: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9… yeah, we have 10, Remo, it’s not all listed here.
56 00:08:39.179 ⇒ 00:08:47.530 Uttam Kumaran: And then we also have 3 potential new clients that may start soon. And so…
57 00:08:47.700 ⇒ 00:08:49.469 Uttam Kumaran: We just need to kind of, like.
58 00:08:49.750 ⇒ 00:08:55.690 Uttam Kumaran: I think invest a little bit more time on delivery daily, especially while we don’t have, like,
59 00:08:56.360 ⇒ 00:09:06.230 Uttam Kumaran: but do it in a way that’s not, like, what it was before, where there’s, like, a stand-up for every single client. And so, kind of, like, a couple of… of things that I,
60 00:09:06.390 ⇒ 00:09:09.729 Uttam Kumaran: suggested, and I’m just gonna put…
61 00:09:10.850 ⇒ 00:09:30.409 Uttam Kumaran: I kind of wrote some thoughts down for, like, weekend actions. One is, yeah, I just need to start waking up earlier, because I think a lot of folks are up early East Coast, or, like, we have some folks, like, Europe beyond, so we can start to do some stuff earlier. I decided to kind of expand,
62 00:09:30.930 ⇒ 00:09:49.239 Uttam Kumaran: expand the morning meetings a little bit. Again, this is something that’s, like, a short-term patch on, like, this issue, but we just have to talk about most clients every day, but we’ll just at least have a time for Robert and I to do that. I also have added in an end-of-day check-in,
63 00:09:49.450 ⇒ 00:09:53.000 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, there are some tasks, as you guys know, that,
64 00:09:53.200 ⇒ 00:10:11.200 Uttam Kumaran: like, hey, let’s just catch up about it at the end of the day, but we never get to it, or it gets to 4 o’clock, and we don’t end up blocking time, or Robert and I get delayed. So I’ve just made sure to block off 30 minutes. That way, if there are anything, like, for example, today, Sam and I are meeting with Lilo and meeting with CTA. We have some action items to do together.
65 00:10:11.200 ⇒ 00:10:19.600 Uttam Kumaran: And so we will do that in that 30-minute block. We can use breakout rooms and do that, but I just want to have a hold, kind of end of day, in case people need it.
66 00:10:19.690 ⇒ 00:10:24.090 Uttam Kumaran: I’ve also blocked off, like, the afternoon for grooming on Wednesdays.
67 00:10:24.130 ⇒ 00:10:40.680 Uttam Kumaran: this, again, it won’t be everybody, or it may be some people, but I just want to make sure that that’s blocked for everybody, and that we will use that to sort of get ahead on the next week. And then I think the big kind of, like, feedback probably for Rico is
68 00:10:40.700 ⇒ 00:10:46.080 Uttam Kumaran: Just punt everything on my calendar, in terms of, like, non-critical.
69 00:10:46.160 ⇒ 00:10:53.180 Uttam Kumaran: or non, like, I have money for you, until after Wednesday. So, like, Talisma, for example.
70 00:10:53.310 ⇒ 00:11:00.980 Uttam Kumaran: if you can message them to reschedule. We’re just gonna push everything to, like, Thursday or Friday.
71 00:11:01.980 ⇒ 00:11:06.840 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just, like, what’s gonna need to happen. Otherwise, we’re gonna get jammed on Thursdays.
72 00:11:07.640 ⇒ 00:11:15.290 Uttam Kumaran: Any questions there, or, like, maybe even, like, any thoughts, Robert, on that, or any… from anyone else on, like.
73 00:11:15.430 ⇒ 00:11:20.079 Uttam Kumaran: How we’ve been running things before we start to kind of talk about how we do stuff today.
74 00:11:25.150 ⇒ 00:11:36.909 Robert Tseng: Yeah, no, I think it makes sense for… I mean, we’re kind of… we were saying we’re splitting it up, two… two stand-ups a day, one on data… I mean, pretty much the engineering, and then one on analysis, so…
75 00:11:37.060 ⇒ 00:11:38.780 Robert Tseng: I think…
76 00:11:41.090 ⇒ 00:11:49.499 Robert Tseng: So, however the clients get grouped up, some people are kind of pulled into both meetings, but that doesn’t impact most people. I think the point is that, I think.
77 00:11:50.110 ⇒ 00:12:03.600 Robert Tseng: with the way that we’ve been running it to this point, most people are kind of just sitting on the call, just listening and not really engaging, and it just doesn’t seem like that’s that helpful. And then, like, we need to schedule all these follow-up calls, and so we’re trying to, like.
78 00:12:03.870 ⇒ 00:12:10.430 Robert Tseng: Make it so this is more… more useful for the people to, get what they need out of… out of these calls.
79 00:12:12.940 ⇒ 00:12:19.229 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, I guess I’m curious, Demolade, like, what did you guys do at DataCulture? Was it similar setup to this, or, like, how have you seen this work before?
80 00:12:19.480 ⇒ 00:12:24.840 Uttam Kumaran: If you haven’t seen it work perfectly before, then whatever. You know, but just curious.
81 00:12:25.360 ⇒ 00:12:34.639 Demilade Agboola: I mean, obviously, there’s never any perfection, but kind of how we did things in data culture was, we had…
82 00:12:35.670 ⇒ 00:12:42.049 Demilade Agboola: We had daily check-ins, so we had, like, a 15-minute period on every project where it was like, okay, so…
83 00:12:42.880 ⇒ 00:12:50.019 Demilade Agboola: what was done yesterday, what do we need to do today? So, kind of like a basic stand-up. And,
84 00:12:50.550 ⇒ 00:12:51.780 Demilade Agboola: We also had, like.
85 00:12:51.890 ⇒ 00:13:06.320 Demilade Agboola: actually, no, we had a client meeting once a week, so that allowed us to always, like, sync with the clients, maintain face value, be able to give them updates, be able to hear the latest issues. Then we also had…
86 00:13:06.570 ⇒ 00:13:09.730 Demilade Agboola: like… daily syncs via Slack.
87 00:13:10.020 ⇒ 00:13:23.089 Demilade Agboola: So it was basically, like, a, oh, what happened? What do you need to do? What… are you blocked? That kind of thing. And then we had meetings, like, Zoom calls once a week.
88 00:13:23.550 ⇒ 00:13:25.180 Demilade Agboola: For, like, 30 minutes.
89 00:13:26.070 ⇒ 00:13:33.750 Uttam Kumaran: Did you feel… but did you feel like that was a… you were able to get through all this scope, or, like, it was, like, a little bit more narrow scope than kind of, like, what we’re doing?
90 00:13:34.560 ⇒ 00:13:40.220 Demilade Agboola: I think, yeah, the scope turned out to be a bit more narrow, to be fair.
91 00:13:41.780 ⇒ 00:13:50.089 Demilade Agboola: we try to nail down things to be, like, very specific, and… Yeah.
92 00:13:50.560 ⇒ 00:14:09.469 Demilade Agboola: that’s kind of why we had our meetings, like, once a week with clients. It was very easy for us to go, hey, so we’re working toward this, and this is the progress in that regard. But something like, take a product like Urban Sems, for instance, we have a goal, yes, but then there are other things that keep happening, and we keep having to
93 00:14:09.580 ⇒ 00:14:11.080 Demilade Agboola: Base that and focus on that.
94 00:14:11.080 ⇒ 00:14:11.720 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
95 00:14:11.720 ⇒ 00:14:15.480 Demilade Agboola: Obviously, that takes time away from what we could be doing towards the goal.
96 00:14:15.600 ⇒ 00:14:24.749 Demilade Agboola: So yeah, I do think there’s a slight disparity in that regard, but yeah, that’s kind of how we just did things in that way.
97 00:14:26.990 ⇒ 00:14:27.630 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
98 00:14:28.110 ⇒ 00:14:36.760 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I think it’s… I mean, I think we’re gonna have to, like, collaborate on this, you know, as we go, but I think, Robert, like, I think we should try to do things like…
99 00:14:36.860 ⇒ 00:14:39.199 Uttam Kumaran: We can try to do things by, sort of.
100 00:14:40.260 ⇒ 00:14:46.450 Uttam Kumaran: data, DE, AE, and, like, AI work, and then we have strategy analysis work. I mean.
101 00:14:46.510 ⇒ 00:14:50.599 Uttam Kumaran: you’re gonna be… I would say, like, a lot of stuff is in this world.
102 00:14:50.660 ⇒ 00:15:09.799 Uttam Kumaran: Right now, but I feel like that’s probably the best way, and then if folks need to jump in between, we can sort of structure the timings, but how I would like to do this is, like, just have two breakout rooms for that. I think what this can evolve into is, like, right now, I have the morning blocked and an hour after.
103 00:15:09.880 ⇒ 00:15:12.749 Uttam Kumaran: We can take the morning meeting to be pure.
104 00:15:12.950 ⇒ 00:15:20.169 Uttam Kumaran: Like, engineering, and then the afternoon meeting… the one right after can be strategy and analysis.
105 00:15:20.740 ⇒ 00:15:24.530 Uttam Kumaran: In this… in today, we can just… we can split and do both.
106 00:15:24.740 ⇒ 00:15:27.260 Uttam Kumaran: Right now, but do you think that’s, like…
107 00:15:27.810 ⇒ 00:15:34.360 Uttam Kumaran: And then anyone who needs to carry on or be accountable for anything for the analysts or strategy folks can come to the next meeting.
108 00:15:37.140 ⇒ 00:15:42.629 Robert Tseng: Yeah, well, I mean, I guess what I see on the calendar is you have, two and a half hours of just, like.
109 00:15:42.840 ⇒ 00:15:45.360 Robert Tseng: planning meetings, on Monday.
110 00:15:45.670 ⇒ 00:15:50.230 Robert Tseng: I mean, if you’re okay with that, I mean, I don’t join the first one, so I… Doesn’t matter.
111 00:15:50.230 ⇒ 00:16:06.390 Uttam Kumaran: No, I’m okay… I’m okay… I’m okay with that, because I… I do 100 things, like, and I don’t expect to be doing all the talking, I’m mainly here to get everybody in the room. So I’m okay with that, and then… like, I want to start, nail it, and then we can compress, you know?
112 00:16:06.980 ⇒ 00:16:10.230 Uttam Kumaran: So I just… that’s what I… that’s what I’m more concerned about.
113 00:16:11.130 ⇒ 00:16:18.920 Demilade Agboola: Quick question. Is the planning meeting literally just planning, or is it also, like, executing? Like, are we executing anything at all, or is it just gonna be planning?
114 00:16:21.820 ⇒ 00:16:38.980 Uttam Kumaran: I guess I don’t know, I mean, I don’t know. I, like, executing means if we’re, like, we’re not gonna be working on stuff, but for example, like, there’s a set… we have a bunch of Eden stuff that we have to plan the next two weeks on, we have a bunch of feedback from Honey Stinger, we have…
115 00:16:39.050 ⇒ 00:16:42.409 Uttam Kumaran: like, we’re gonna be presenting some stuff for Insomnia this week.
116 00:16:42.540 ⇒ 00:16:45.760 Uttam Kumaran: I have feedback from CES, from HEDRA,
117 00:16:45.910 ⇒ 00:16:50.880 Uttam Kumaran: From a couple of other clients that I want to plan out, so it will be a majority planning on Mondays.
118 00:16:50.990 ⇒ 00:17:01.719 Uttam Kumaran: For sure. But, like, if there’s carryover work that we need to deliver today, then it can also be more… more execution. During the week, though, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
119 00:17:02.090 ⇒ 00:17:14.650 Uttam Kumaran: it will be all about just, like, executing, and for example, like… but there’s also work streams are different, right? In the analysis work stream, Robert has to review analysis outlines, review initial findings, and then review decks.
120 00:17:14.750 ⇒ 00:17:34.490 Uttam Kumaran: the problem we want to address is that, like, those are just getting sent, and then they’re… and then, like, there’s no time for Robert to review, and then he reviews it, later, and then it never gets… so, like, those are the things that we want to do on a call, and I think doing that in the morning is the best way for us to say, like, okay, this is shipped, let’s get it out, ship, let’s get it out, make this tweak.
121 00:17:34.680 ⇒ 00:17:48.169 Uttam Kumaran: But for the… for the data AI engineering workstreams, these may be, like, PR reviews, these may be, like, let’s pair program on something. Like, so I… I think, like, there are separate things.
122 00:17:48.520 ⇒ 00:17:57.949 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, I kind of feel like separating it out that way. Also, like, we’re gonna talk a little bit today about who’s assigned where. For the analysts, like, I think everybody should see it.
123 00:17:58.070 ⇒ 00:18:00.510 Uttam Kumaran: Every single piece of analysis, and give feedback.
124 00:18:00.620 ⇒ 00:18:04.940 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, I want Mustafa, Casey, Amber to be able to see
125 00:18:05.140 ⇒ 00:18:24.419 Uttam Kumaran: all of the work that gets out for the analyst crew. Similarly, when we talk about anything on the data engine or AE side, I want Demolade, Awash, Sam, you guys to be with me seeing that, you know? And then I think we’re gonna kind of see where Zoran and Henry… I mean, you guys will be more on the strategy and execution side.
126 00:18:25.140 ⇒ 00:18:28.200 Uttam Kumaran: Like, in the second meeting, you know, as well, so…
127 00:18:29.540 ⇒ 00:18:34.880 Uttam Kumaran: It’s kind of like what we’re gonna, I feel like, run with for now, like… You know?
128 00:18:39.960 ⇒ 00:18:47.880 Uttam Kumaran: So if we’re good with that, I could go ahead and do breakout rooms. Does this… Roughly… look right.
129 00:18:53.400 ⇒ 00:18:56.359 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think some of the clients will be in both buckets, so it’s like.
130 00:18:56.360 ⇒ 00:18:57.080 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
131 00:18:57.520 ⇒ 00:18:57.950 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
132 00:18:57.950 ⇒ 00:18:59.770 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, defaults in both.
133 00:19:00.120 ⇒ 00:19:10.250 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, we just, like, don’t… we haven’t got approval on the Insomnia sort of data engine work, so kind of waiting there. Some of these will transition into your camp. Like, Urban Stems.
134 00:19:10.740 ⇒ 00:19:18.910 Uttam Kumaran: is transitioning into your camp, you know, in terms of strategy analysis, based on what we get signed for on the next go-around, you know, so…
135 00:19:18.930 ⇒ 00:19:20.280 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
136 00:19:20.510 ⇒ 00:19:35.110 Uttam Kumaran: And then we have Element and stuff like that. We’ll start Element and stuff, we’ll probably start here, and then we’ll move into here, or there’ll be some back and forth, so… Okay, so how about I go ahead, and I’m just gonna set out breakout rooms. Can we just talk? Who’s, like, who’s gonna be…
137 00:19:35.210 ⇒ 00:19:40.249 Uttam Kumaran: tagged on both. I mean, if we talk about the strategy analysis room, Robert, it’ll be you.
138 00:19:40.440 ⇒ 00:19:45.580 Uttam Kumaran: You, Casey, Mustafa… Zoran, Henry…
139 00:19:46.090 ⇒ 00:19:46.660 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
140 00:19:47.670 ⇒ 00:19:48.340 Uttam Kumaran: Right?
141 00:19:48.920 ⇒ 00:19:49.420 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
142 00:19:49.420 ⇒ 00:19:54.620 Uttam Kumaran: And then Amber, but she’s off today. So let’s do that, and then the rest of the folks, you stick with me, we can talk through
143 00:19:55.040 ⇒ 00:19:58.039 Uttam Kumaran: Talk to these, and then…
144 00:19:58.770 ⇒ 00:20:12.679 Uttam Kumaran: We’ll send pings back and forth if I need someone from the other team to jump back and forth, and then let’s just try it, see how it goes. Let’s take the last, like, 5-10 minutes of this meeting to just come back and be like, how did that go?
145 00:20:12.920 ⇒ 00:20:16.429 Uttam Kumaran: And then that way we can make some adjustments. So let me,
146 00:20:17.190 ⇒ 00:20:19.509 Uttam Kumaran: Let me go ahead and make the rooms.
147 00:20:36.750 ⇒ 00:20:37.420 Uttam Kumaran: Excellent.
148 00:20:38.050 ⇒ 00:20:38.870 Uttam Kumaran: Don’t clear.
149 00:20:58.070 ⇒ 00:21:02.299 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, strategy analysis, DEA.
150 00:21:02.920 ⇒ 00:21:18.290 Uttam Kumaran: And then I think, maybe just to highlight one thing, so I said it again, Robert, I… KCE is gonna help on Eden analysis work, Mustafa is gonna help, on anything on README,
151 00:21:18.510 ⇒ 00:21:35.349 Uttam Kumaran: I know Awes here also kind of pulled some stuff for README, so if you want to join that to start with, feel free. Amber will be back, but we can have her take the Honey Stinger work. You can also walk through, and she can review the meeting anyways today, or if you want to, hand that to Mustafa as well.
152 00:21:35.980 ⇒ 00:21:37.500 Uttam Kumaran: Feel free.
153 00:21:37.500 ⇒ 00:21:38.130 Robert Tseng: dirt.
154 00:21:38.700 ⇒ 00:21:43.489 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. So… Let me go ahead and create these rooms.
155 00:21:43.780 ⇒ 00:21:44.970 Uttam Kumaran: Proceeding…
156 00:22:00.740 ⇒ 00:22:12.139 Uttam Kumaran: And then, Rico, I would maybe jump between rooms, or I would suggest you, join probably the strategy room, because they’re going to have the most, sort of, like, immediate action items and feedback.
157 00:22:12.430 ⇒ 00:22:16.600 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool, so… There we go.
158 00:56:40.160 ⇒ 00:56:44.570 Robert Tseng: Stop, mustafa, what are your working hours again?
159 00:56:48.140 ⇒ 00:56:55.859 Mustafa Raja: I think I, in Eastern Time, I work till… 5pm or something, yeah.
160 00:56:56.160 ⇒ 00:56:56.960 Robert Tseng: Oh, okay.
161 00:56:57.120 ⇒ 00:57:02.979 Robert Tseng: Okay, then I can… I’ll do…
162 00:57:06.620 ⇒ 00:57:08.630 Henry Zhao: Mustava, what time is it for you over there?
163 00:57:09.400 ⇒ 00:57:13.650 Mustafa Raja: It’s 9.30, almost 9.30 PM.
164 00:57:16.430 ⇒ 00:57:17.439 Henry Zhao: I’m just curious.
165 00:57:26.380 ⇒ 00:57:35.609 Robert Tseng: Alright, well, I’m just gonna grab a weekly time with you, Mustafa. If that doesn’t work, just let me know, but otherwise, I’ll just assume that this should be okay.
166 00:58:09.180 ⇒ 00:58:21.130 Robert Tseng: Okay, and then for the Eden team… Boop, boop, boop, meaning just… Henry and Casey…
167 00:58:26.190 ⇒ 00:58:29.030 Henry Zhao: So why is my brain forged thing backwards?
168 00:58:31.850 ⇒ 00:58:33.030 Henry Zhao: Is it backwards for you guys?
169 00:58:33.030 ⇒ 00:58:34.710 Mustafa Raja: It’s good for us.
170 00:58:38.300 ⇒ 00:58:40.919 Henry Zhao: I just downloaded what Utsom sent me, and I just added it.
171 00:58:40.920 ⇒ 00:58:42.360 Robert Tseng: Yeah, no, it looks, it looks fine.
172 00:58:42.370 ⇒ 00:58:43.689 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it looks fine.
173 00:58:46.060 ⇒ 00:58:47.480 Henry Zhao: Yeah, for me, it’s backwards.
174 00:58:49.410 ⇒ 00:58:51.049 Rico Rejoso: Maybe a mirror setting?
175 00:58:51.820 ⇒ 00:58:53.849 Henry Zhao: Oh, yeah, there’s probably a setting for that.
176 00:58:56.110 ⇒ 00:58:59.779 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, Casey, what’s… what are your working hours, Eastern?
177 00:59:00.560 ⇒ 00:59:01.370 Robert Tseng: Time.
178 00:59:02.360 ⇒ 00:59:06.939 Casie Aviles: Yeah, so I… and around…
179 00:59:06.940 ⇒ 00:59:10.020 Robert Tseng: Yeah, same time, around 5 EM Eastern.
180 00:59:10.020 ⇒ 00:59:10.800 Casie Aviles: Okay.
181 00:59:11.880 ⇒ 00:59:18.520 Robert Tseng: Then… I think… Yeah, I just need, like, an hour for eating.
182 00:59:20.190 ⇒ 00:59:25.120 Robert Tseng: Okay. I’m gonna just… Grab.
183 00:59:25.290 ⇒ 00:59:31.259 Robert Tseng: This… we won’t take the full hour, but, like, I think we just… Need to have, like, an…
184 00:59:31.460 ⇒ 00:59:34.289 Robert Tseng: Medium analysis session.
185 00:59:36.120 ⇒ 00:59:37.919 Robert Tseng: It’ll be… ugh.
186 00:59:47.030 ⇒ 00:59:52.500 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think I’m just, like, worried, because I didn’t see enough on the board.
187 00:59:54.210 ⇒ 00:59:55.090 Robert Tseng: Okay.
188 00:59:56.090 ⇒ 00:59:56.780 Robert Tseng: Right.
189 00:59:57.130 ⇒ 01:00:12.979 Robert Tseng: Oh, this thing runs until… we’re running this until noon? Wow, this is… I’m sorry, guys, I’m not good at running, like, an hour and a half meeting, like, that’s… that’s… UTOM can do that, but if you met with me, you know I don’t really go over 30 or 45 minutes on anything.
190 01:00:13.300 ⇒ 01:00:20.680 Robert Tseng: I… I totally thought he was wrapping up in, like, at this time, but I guess the guys… everyone’s still going for another 30 minutes.
191 01:00:21.340 ⇒ 01:00:29.350 Robert Tseng: Oh, it feels so unnecessary, but… okay, well, I mean, I guess we could kind of do the Eden session then,
192 01:00:29.480 ⇒ 01:00:31.549 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that way I don’t have to book time later.
193 01:00:32.060 ⇒ 01:00:38.340 Robert Tseng: Okay, so I’ll just kind of go back to it then.
194 01:00:51.940 ⇒ 01:00:53.530 Robert Tseng: go with…
195 01:00:59.500 ⇒ 01:01:06.940 Robert Tseng: Okay, so I’m not actually gonna bill out the tickets, I’m just gonna talk about it, and then, Henry and Henriette kind of expecting you to put it together.
196 01:01:07.120 ⇒ 01:01:14.189 Robert Tseng: So yeah, I mean, this was the project review that we went through with Eden last week, so things that we were opened up on…
197 01:01:17.850 ⇒ 01:01:18.715 Robert Tseng: D-do-do…
198 01:01:20.500 ⇒ 01:01:28.940 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so, I mean, I think you… I believe you put this slide together. It’s just that, like, this is not a project and there are no tickets here, right? So…
199 01:01:29.240 ⇒ 01:01:44.840 Robert Tseng: need you to basically create tickets for the Mixpanel. We’ve had former proj… like, old projects. I mean, I would just scrap and re… I mean, I don’t think everything in the old tickets is irrelevant, like, I actually think we’ve had projects before.
200 01:01:45.430 ⇒ 01:01:53.959 Robert Tseng: So if I go to Eden, and I search for Mixpanel, I’m sure I’ll see something.
201 01:01:54.830 ⇒ 01:02:03.490 Robert Tseng: Projects… yeah, we had this thing called Nix Panel for Q4 2.0. What is this? Issues…
202 01:02:06.390 ⇒ 01:02:11.279 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, I feel like we should just break this back in, instead of creating a new one.
203 01:02:11.670 ⇒ 01:02:19.849 Robert Tseng: So… And, we’ll do Casey…
204 01:02:21.440 ⇒ 01:02:29.469 Robert Tseng: Great, we’ll say… I mean, I already said I should have kicked off then, should be done in 2 weeks.
205 01:02:30.310 ⇒ 01:02:31.160 Robert Tseng: Great.
206 01:02:31.290 ⇒ 01:02:32.530 Robert Tseng: So…
207 01:02:43.080 ⇒ 01:02:46.250 Henry Zhao: Casey, are you free after this call?
208 01:02:47.130 ⇒ 01:02:48.000 Casie Aviles: Yes, shit.
209 01:02:48.660 ⇒ 01:02:50.389 Henry Zhao: Okay, I’m gonna invite you to a meeting.
210 01:02:50.550 ⇒ 01:02:51.500 Henry Zhao: On Mixpanel.
211 01:02:53.160 ⇒ 01:02:56.579 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I’m gonna cancel my call with you guys. I think this should try to take care of it.
212 01:02:56.870 ⇒ 01:03:02.840 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so yeah, Henry, you can leverage, Casey for… for this.
213 01:03:03.010 ⇒ 01:03:08.800 Robert Tseng: But, to me, it’s like… Validation, Plan for training, like.
214 01:03:08.800 ⇒ 01:03:13.440 Henry Zhao: I mean, Henry, you have to do that. It’s not gonna be Casey. You’re gonna have… because you have the relationship.
215 01:03:13.470 ⇒ 01:03:14.739 Robert Tseng: With those, with those guys.
216 01:03:14.740 ⇒ 01:03:15.280 Henry Zhao: little.
217 01:03:19.830 ⇒ 01:03:30.199 Robert Tseng: And yeah, I guess you’ll… you’ll know what they care about the most. It’s, you know, I think it takes… I don’t think we’re using session replay, so this is probably not something we can do right now.
218 01:03:30.510 ⇒ 01:03:31.549 Henry Zhao: But Adam wants us to do it.
219 01:03:32.970 ⇒ 01:03:37.080 Robert Tseng: Yeah, but, like, we don’t have it set up, so, like, you’re gonna set it up…
220 01:03:37.200 ⇒ 01:03:44.060 Robert Tseng: I mean, you may deploy it, but it’s… you’re not gonna get anything until, I don’t know, it’s probably not gonna happen until we… until we… until you do it.
221 01:03:44.520 ⇒ 01:03:49.220 Henry Zhao: Oh, maybe I just set it up, yeah, set up. That would be a ticket to set it up, yeah.
222 01:03:49.220 ⇒ 01:03:51.780 Robert Tseng: So you’ll create a ticket for yourself to set that up.
223 01:03:52.170 ⇒ 01:03:58.279 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, this is kind of like… this would be great if we can set, like, a…
224 01:03:58.560 ⇒ 01:04:09.729 Robert Tseng: I mean, we should time box this, you know, whether it’s two, two weeks or 4 weeks out, like, you know, at this point, this is the handoff, or Eden’s team should be running off of Mixpanel. So, I guess,
225 01:04:11.620 ⇒ 01:04:18.509 Robert Tseng: What do we… what do we think? I mean, theoretically, this should have started last week, so, I mean, can we just say… Yeah, December 5th?
226 01:04:19.120 ⇒ 01:04:20.269 Henry Zhao: Yeah, that works.
227 01:04:20.520 ⇒ 01:04:25.280 Robert Tseng: All right, Yeah, that should buy you some time, so…
228 01:04:27.540 ⇒ 01:04:32.130 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I guess you’ll be… however you kick it off with them on Wednesday, like.
229 01:04:32.240 ⇒ 01:04:47.229 Robert Tseng: just let them know, it’s like, okay, you’re there to just make sure you understand all the things that they care about, make sure we have the capabilities, and then that week of December 5th, we schedule one more time, time to kind of basically hand it off to them, right?
230 01:04:47.610 ⇒ 01:04:48.190 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
231 01:04:48.620 ⇒ 01:04:54.549 Robert Tseng: And this edge… adding edge layer data to Mixed Panel is not a priority, so we don’t have to add that in yet.
232 01:04:54.800 ⇒ 01:04:56.099 Henry Zhao: Okay, great.
233 01:04:56.540 ⇒ 01:05:02.580 Robert Tseng: Yeah, and then your pharmacy tickets, I think, obviously, this is the stuff that needs to be put in there.
234 01:05:02.730 ⇒ 01:05:07.819 Robert Tseng: Elt cares about this. This is something that I kind of have to think through.
235 01:05:08.540 ⇒ 01:05:10.710 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
236 01:05:10.710 ⇒ 01:05:11.840 Henry Zhao: Bowser does not care about this.
237 01:05:11.840 ⇒ 01:05:14.840 Robert Tseng: No, they do, yeah. This is… this is important to them, so…
238 01:05:14.840 ⇒ 01:05:15.470 Henry Zhao: Okay.
239 01:05:17.030 ⇒ 01:05:28.149 Robert Tseng: I don’t know what you’re doing in Tableau to do forecasting. I’d like to hear a bit more about that, like, what… what’s… how is it different from what we have currently, or what are you… what are you adding?
240 01:05:28.440 ⇒ 01:05:30.570 Henry Zhao: We don’t have any forecasting right now, at the moment.
241 01:05:30.900 ⇒ 01:05:34.560 Robert Tseng: Yeah, but, like, what do you… how are you gonna… how are you gonna forecast? Like, what do you…
242 01:05:34.560 ⇒ 01:05:36.399 Henry Zhao: I have a project plan that I can share with you.
243 01:05:36.830 ⇒ 01:05:39.570 Henry Zhao: Okay. It’s a very rough move, but yeah.
244 01:05:40.290 ⇒ 01:05:44.739 Robert Tseng: I mean, what they… what it sounds like they want is more, like, a pacing, like…
245 01:05:45.080 ⇒ 01:05:50.220 Robert Tseng: Revenue forecasts were, like, a pacing thing, so…
246 01:05:50.940 ⇒ 01:05:56.060 Robert Tseng: I mean, right now, we can set a… I mean, I’m sure it’s pretty easy to set, like.
247 01:05:57.680 ⇒ 01:06:01.570 Robert Tseng: A target for, like, what they expect to hit in that month.
248 01:06:01.840 ⇒ 01:06:04.599 Robert Tseng: But they don’t know, is it, like.
249 01:06:08.620 ⇒ 01:06:11.850 Robert Tseng: like, I guess that month… that monthly…
250 01:06:11.970 ⇒ 01:06:18.140 Robert Tseng: pacing is still too broad. Like, they need to be able to make changes, like, week to week.
251 01:06:18.670 ⇒ 01:06:21.100 Robert Tseng: Like, is there… Is…
252 01:06:21.680 ⇒ 01:06:41.139 Robert Tseng: is 60% of revenue coming in in that first week, right? We’ve noticed behavior… behavioral patterns where people are purchasing, you know, basically twice a month, roughly around when they collect their paychecks. So I would expect maybe, like, something to be, like, 50% of it is realized in the first two weeks, and then 50% in the latter…
253 01:06:41.140 ⇒ 01:06:42.390 Robert Tseng: The next two weeks.
254 01:06:42.520 ⇒ 01:06:45.289 Robert Tseng: But, yeah, I guess, like.
255 01:06:46.400 ⇒ 01:06:55.849 Robert Tseng: the dashboard that you’re building, I imagine it’s just, like, the same revenue chart with, like, a line that has, like, a dotted line, that dashed line that shows, like, the…
256 01:06:56.030 ⇒ 01:07:00.270 Robert Tseng: the projection, but it’s probably just at a monthly level, so I think they…
257 01:07:01.160 ⇒ 01:07:05.920 Robert Tseng: I mean, I think… I think they’re gonna want more than that. I don’t know who you’ve talked to to flesh that out.
258 01:07:06.500 ⇒ 01:07:13.460 Henry Zhao: And there’s also gonna be, like, filters that, like, you can adjust ad spend, adjust, like, cogs to see, like, how that would affect the forecast.
259 01:07:14.040 ⇒ 01:07:20.130 Robert Tseng: Yeah. Okay, why… why are we doing that in Tableau? Why shouldn’t that just be a Google Sheet? Or, like, a spreadsheet?
260 01:07:20.500 ⇒ 01:07:21.710 Henry Zhao: It could be a Google Sheet.
261 01:07:22.030 ⇒ 01:07:27.249 Robert Tseng: Okay, I mean, I’m just saying, like, it seems like it’s easier if you’re gonna add all these assumptions,
262 01:07:27.760 ⇒ 01:07:30.820 Robert Tseng: Seems like it’d be easier to just do it in a spreadsheet.
263 01:07:31.350 ⇒ 01:07:32.160 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
264 01:07:32.980 ⇒ 01:07:40.159 Robert Tseng: I mean, I had my previous forecast that we handed off, are they using that, or, like, where, like, what is… what is Brad using?
265 01:07:40.160 ⇒ 01:07:40.780 Henry Zhao: Yeah, this is memorable.
266 01:07:40.780 ⇒ 01:07:42.210 Robert Tseng: on Friday, so what’s…
267 01:07:42.210 ⇒ 01:07:42.760 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
268 01:07:44.750 ⇒ 01:07:51.299 Henry Zhao: he just wants it to be… you can watch the loom, but he just wants it in Tableau so that he can have more breakdowns, because right now there’s, like.
269 01:07:51.430 ⇒ 01:07:54.369 Henry Zhao: 1 million rows, and it’s not easy to do in Google Sheets.
270 01:07:54.980 ⇒ 01:07:59.999 Robert Tseng: Okay. Well, I mean… I should watch The Loom.
271 01:08:00.130 ⇒ 01:08:01.519 Robert Tseng: Where’d you…
272 01:08:01.520 ⇒ 01:08:05.119 Henry Zhao: But more importantly, we need vial size from Basque so we can get that cog stuff.
273 01:08:06.080 ⇒ 01:08:07.380 Henry Zhao: I think that’s even more important.
274 01:08:08.680 ⇒ 01:08:09.260 Robert Tseng: Okay.
275 01:08:11.140 ⇒ 01:08:21.989 Robert Tseng: Because I’m about to bring in a financial analyst who’s going to be more of a spreadsheet person, just because we need them on a couple other, things, like Urban Stems is gonna be purely financial analysis, and then…
276 01:08:22.210 ⇒ 01:08:26.320 Robert Tseng: So, you know, I just wanna sit, like… Yeah.
277 01:08:28.420 ⇒ 01:08:34.210 Robert Tseng: Yeah, can you reshare? I don’t see it in the client Eden channel, maybe there’s too much noise from all the…
278 01:08:38.930 ⇒ 01:08:42.270 Henry Zhao: Oh yeah, because of all the dbt stuff. But I will reshare.
279 01:08:43.800 ⇒ 01:08:44.370 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
280 01:08:45.410 ⇒ 01:08:46.479 Robert Tseng: I’ll watch that.
281 01:08:47.450 ⇒ 01:08:54.709 Robert Tseng: Okay and then, yeah, there’s a couple more open opportunities here. One is around this, like.
282 01:08:56.380 ⇒ 01:09:02.030 Robert Tseng: AI into database to enable self-serve queries. I think this is something,
283 01:09:03.729 ⇒ 01:09:13.720 Robert Tseng: I think I’m gonna put this more on, like, the AI team to kind of figure out. So, I mean, I’ll talk to Utam. This might be kind of tapping in someone else to come in.
284 01:09:13.729 ⇒ 01:09:16.579 Henry Zhao: Tom is here. You can talk to… yeah, Upton’s here.
285 01:09:16.840 ⇒ 01:09:20.260 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, oh, we just finished up, so I’m just listening, yeah.
286 01:09:20.819 ⇒ 01:09:26.910 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, well, this is something that you should… this is something that you should, squarely hand over to Casey.
287 01:09:27.550 ⇒ 01:09:33.510 Uttam Kumaran: And I think you can basically say, like, let’s do a spike on this.
288 01:09:33.750 ⇒ 01:09:40.469 Uttam Kumaran: And if you… if you… we can probably deliver You, that spike.
289 01:09:40.770 ⇒ 01:09:42.200 Uttam Kumaran: by next Monday.
290 01:09:44.580 ⇒ 01:09:49.559 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. And at least you have… you have some demo for the next ELT meeting, which is, what, next Wednesday?
291 01:09:50.100 ⇒ 01:09:50.420 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
292 01:09:50.420 ⇒ 01:09:51.420 Uttam Kumaran: Following Wednesday?
293 01:09:51.930 ⇒ 01:09:52.590 Robert Tseng: Yep.
294 01:09:53.100 ⇒ 01:10:09.070 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so let’s plan on that. So, Casey, if you can start a spike… we already have a spike on Texas SQL, if you can just start… if you can either take that and expand, or… I don’t know if we ended up doing one, let’s go ahead and just start one towards this. And then ideally by, like, Thursday, Friday.
295 01:10:09.170 ⇒ 01:10:14.800 Uttam Kumaran: you can present something to me, and then we can also present the spike in Monday’s… next Monday’s planning.
296 01:10:15.030 ⇒ 01:10:19.419 Uttam Kumaran: And then that’ll turn into a part of the deck that we present to ELT.
297 01:10:19.790 ⇒ 01:10:26.430 Uttam Kumaran: like, yeah, I’m excited for this one. I think Awash, you’ve also done some work. I think everybody, for all of our clients are very interested in this, so…
298 01:10:26.630 ⇒ 01:10:27.990 Uttam Kumaran: Industrial trade.
299 01:10:28.110 ⇒ 01:10:34.559 Awaish Kumar: Can we also try contextual, because, like, we had a demo on bond.ai, I think, but they are not.
300 01:10:34.560 ⇒ 01:10:37.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we’re gonna consider all of it. We’re gonna consider all of the options.
301 01:10:38.340 ⇒ 01:10:49.139 Uttam Kumaran: Contextual, Bond, DAXR has a new offering. We’ll look at, like, building something on our own. We can… we’ll consider Omni, Aynreal, both have AI features, so…
302 01:10:50.040 ⇒ 01:10:56.080 Uttam Kumaran: We’ll… we’ll just look at all the options, because this is something that I want to… I want to basically create as a one-slide for sales, also.
303 01:10:57.290 ⇒ 01:10:57.840 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
304 01:10:58.760 ⇒ 01:11:02.630 Robert Tseng: Boo-poo!
305 01:11:04.070 ⇒ 01:11:05.320 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool.
306 01:11:09.000 ⇒ 01:11:15.740 Robert Tseng: Alright, that saves me that one-hour block that I was gonna put on your guys’ calendar. I’m gonna delete that now.
307 01:11:18.590 ⇒ 01:11:23.240 Robert Tseng: Great. Oh, if we can do a little debrief, I think,
308 01:11:26.280 ⇒ 01:11:26.960 Robert Tseng: I…
309 01:11:27.300 ⇒ 01:11:37.020 Robert Tseng: I think this is… I think this is great. I don’t think we need an hour and a half, I think an hour is good. That way, like, if we need to stay on an extra 30 minutes, then people can kind of jump off, and then…
310 01:11:37.500 ⇒ 01:11:47.720 Robert Tseng: like, kind of what we were doing with just the eating group just now. Like, I was… I had another meeting booked with them, but I just ended up running through it with Henry and Casey on this call, so…
311 01:11:48.100 ⇒ 01:11:50.499 Robert Tseng: I think that… that seems to work. That seems to work well.
312 01:11:50.500 ⇒ 01:11:53.089 Uttam Kumaran: How did it go with, like, the other clients?
313 01:11:54.200 ⇒ 01:11:55.420 Uttam Kumaran: for stuff like that.
314 01:11:55.730 ⇒ 01:12:05.800 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, I think the README still needs more… I mean, there’s nothing really for Mustafa that’s happened to now, but, like, I was able to book the call with him, so I have a weekly with him now.
315 01:12:06.030 ⇒ 01:12:25.129 Robert Tseng: I mean, Waste just sent me a notion. I have to, like, go through it and really triangulate, like, does this match what I’m seeing in amplitude? Like, I don’t really think I answered… he answered that question, so I have to figure that out before I know, like, are we really unblocked on other analysis? But, yeah. And then insomnia, like,
316 01:12:25.250 ⇒ 01:12:30.899 Robert Tseng: Amber’s not here, so I didn’t really go too much into it. I just kind of showed, like, what the projects are.
317 01:12:31.630 ⇒ 01:12:33.519 Uttam Kumaran: That deck looks great, by the way, dude.
318 01:12:33.970 ⇒ 01:12:39.759 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I love that. I was reading that over and over, like, and I showed it to some people also last week.
319 01:12:39.870 ⇒ 01:12:43.910 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I think it’s a great example of, like, great output from us.
320 01:12:44.320 ⇒ 01:12:53.479 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think it just, you know, it just came back to me a Friday evening, and it took, like, 3 or 4 reviews to get there, so if we can do that.
321 01:12:53.480 ⇒ 01:12:53.860 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
322 01:12:53.860 ⇒ 01:12:59.690 Robert Tseng: quality, like, within 2 reviews by Thursday, I think we’d be in a good spot, so…
323 01:12:59.690 ⇒ 01:13:01.259 Uttam Kumaran: I think… I think you can, and I
324 01:13:01.590 ⇒ 01:13:04.329 Uttam Kumaran: It’s up to you to think about what the supply chain of that.
325 01:13:04.330 ⇒ 01:13:06.840 Robert Tseng: Yeah. And for me, it basically boils down to, like.
326 01:13:07.170 ⇒ 01:13:11.950 Uttam Kumaran: Understand what the question is, by Wednesday, deliver, like.
327 01:13:12.360 ⇒ 01:13:16.959 Uttam Kumaran: by the end of day or Tuesday, deliver, like, an outline of how you’re gonna go after it.
328 01:13:17.300 ⇒ 01:13:20.680 Uttam Kumaran: by Wednesday, you kind of deliver, like, here’s all the evidence.
329 01:13:21.170 ⇒ 01:13:23.210 Uttam Kumaran: And then… then the deck.
330 01:13:23.410 ⇒ 01:13:28.629 Uttam Kumaran: And yeah, maybe one week is too long, and that’ll be up to you to say, like, we moved to two-week.
331 01:13:29.260 ⇒ 01:13:35.450 Uttam Kumaran: Sprints around it, and that way, maybe the evidence or some preliminary presentation is possible.
332 01:13:36.340 ⇒ 01:13:53.020 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine, but I agree, like, that’s now setting the bar for, like, I think what’s… what’s worth getting out. Additionally, for default, I told the same thing, like, Amber has produced a ton of, like, notions and looms, but there’s… that’s nothing that even… there’s nothing that Caitlin can send to the wider company.
333 01:13:53.020 ⇒ 01:13:53.610 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
334 01:13:53.610 ⇒ 01:13:55.209 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, so you have to produce a deck.
335 01:13:55.430 ⇒ 01:13:58.220 Uttam Kumaran: And it has to be just like the Insomnia deck around…
336 01:13:58.330 ⇒ 01:14:17.330 Uttam Kumaran: what we’ve discovered, and it has to be easily shareable, and so I’m excited to see, like, Casey and other folks kind of, like, level up to see that. And then across the company, I think all of us on the call should get better at producing these decks, and so the decks and the presentations will come together, you know, a lot faster.
337 01:14:17.960 ⇒ 01:14:18.500 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
338 01:14:18.850 ⇒ 01:14:21.119 Uttam Kumaran: And how’d it go with Honey Stinger’s conversation?
339 01:14:22.380 ⇒ 01:14:38.900 Robert Tseng: Yeah, no, it was good. I think we were able to talk through some of the engineering blockers. I think the… not having Demulade and Awash on the call just kind of meant that we didn’t… we just kind of glossed over their tickets on the… and Sam glossed over their tickets on the Eden and Honey Stinger side. Okay.
340 01:14:38.900 ⇒ 01:14:47.299 Robert Tseng: On the Eden side, I think that’s okay, because I was like, well, basically whatever they’re working on is blocking Henry and Zoran, so you guys should be the ones kind of chasing them anyways.
341 01:14:47.490 ⇒ 01:14:51.490 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and we talked, we talked about those also. Yeah, so we, so, yeah.
342 01:14:51.760 ⇒ 01:14:56.510 Robert Tseng: Should be okay. On the Honey Stinger side, yeah, I mean, I think I just,
343 01:14:57.280 ⇒ 01:15:14.149 Robert Tseng: I need to… well, I guess there’s… it was unclear. Like, we were like, okay, well, is it gonna be Mustafa? Is it gonna be Henry? Is it gonna be Amber? Like, it just… they’re just… everybody wants… everybody wants a crack at it, but I’m also like, well, I guess none of you have looked at the Amazon data, so to me, you’re all starting from scratch.
344 01:15:14.150 ⇒ 01:15:19.619 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t… yeah, I… I mean, Amber is now gonna be overloaded.
345 01:15:19.750 ⇒ 01:15:21.250 Uttam Kumaran: So, I… I would…
346 01:15:21.250 ⇒ 01:15:28.479 Robert Tseng: I don’t think Amber should do it. I think she should just stay on the marketing domain, so I don’t think… and that’s not really where Honey Stinger is right now. Or, like.
347 01:15:28.480 ⇒ 01:15:29.209 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m…
348 01:15:29.210 ⇒ 01:15:31.810 Robert Tseng: So if it’s not… not marketing, yeah.
349 01:15:32.500 ⇒ 01:15:44.240 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, then it’s… then it’s totally up to you to split it between Henry and Mustafa. Like, I don’t… I don’t care, but this is now week 3 of nothing. So… I’ll leave that decision…
350 01:15:45.440 ⇒ 01:15:47.359 Uttam Kumaran: Kinda to you.
351 01:15:47.770 ⇒ 01:15:51.819 Robert Tseng: Yeah. So, no, I have 30 minutes blocked to just kind of…
352 01:15:52.130 ⇒ 01:16:05.790 Robert Tseng: build out the tickets, then I’m gonna push it. I basically need to groom… groom Honey Stinger from our call on Friday. I mean, I kind of, like, I already explained the high-level projects, the pivots that we’re making, but as far as, like, kind of how we’re gonna get there, I think it’s still probably unclear today.
353 01:16:05.790 ⇒ 01:16:16.239 Uttam Kumaran: Am I good to go ahead and send, like, a little bit of summary, or did anything significantly change about the plan? Can I send that to Byron today, or do you want me to wait until we have, like.
354 01:16:16.630 ⇒ 01:16:18.489 Uttam Kumaran: What he should expect this week.
355 01:16:18.710 ⇒ 01:16:27.260 Robert Tseng: Yeah, no, I can… I can send it, I can send it to Byron. I asked him to kind of resend the Excel anyway, so that’ll just be, like, I’m gonna be working on that shortly after this.
356 01:16:27.680 ⇒ 01:16:34.530 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Yeah, so I think, kind of moving forward, we’ll end up doing the DEAI stuff in the morning.
357 01:16:34.640 ⇒ 01:16:37.179 Uttam Kumaran: In that morning block, and then…
358 01:16:37.400 ⇒ 01:16:44.329 Uttam Kumaran: The folks that are supporting analysts can join this next session and listen in or drop.
359 01:16:44.520 ⇒ 01:16:49.149 Uttam Kumaran: So, I’ll give you this entire hour to just focus on strategy analysis stuff.
360 01:16:49.290 ⇒ 01:16:53.460 Uttam Kumaran: And, like, on Eden, for example, Demolade will be the kind of primary support.
361 01:16:55.050 ⇒ 01:17:06.099 Uttam Kumaran: on Insomnia, you have, Casey and kind of Sam doing some engineering work. But there are also clients like Hydra, CTA,
362 01:17:06.200 ⇒ 01:17:20.689 Uttam Kumaran: the default vendor stuff, like, that’s all I’ll just… all we’ll discuss in the initial meeting. And so, any folks… any of the engineering folks that are supporting strategy or analytics can join this.
363 01:17:20.870 ⇒ 01:17:22.730 Uttam Kumaran: And then this meeting will be yours.
364 01:17:23.220 ⇒ 01:17:24.330 Robert Tseng: Okay, great.
365 01:17:24.330 ⇒ 01:17:35.490 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, and then Mondays, I think, yeah, we’ll kind of also arrive at this thing. So I’ll shorten this meeting to be a little bit shorter, and then this will just be all around strategy and analysis.
366 01:17:35.490 ⇒ 01:17:36.590 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
367 01:17:37.900 ⇒ 01:17:44.310 Robert Tseng: Yeah, 30 minutes throughout the rest of the week is fine, I think, or whatever. Not every day has to be a full hour. I think it’s probably 30 to 45 minutes.
368 01:17:44.310 ⇒ 01:17:51.709 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, we can cut it. I just want to make sure, again, if there are breakouts, then you can just use the remaining 30 to do the breakout.
369 01:17:51.710 ⇒ 01:17:52.160 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
370 01:17:52.160 ⇒ 01:17:53.679 Uttam Kumaran: You know, if you want, so…
371 01:17:54.090 ⇒ 01:17:54.790 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
372 01:17:54.790 ⇒ 01:18:03.910 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. I think the other things this week, tomorrow, we have our call with Urban STEM, so I’m gonna be putting together… putting in front of them the forecasting stuff, we’re gonna be talking about NexScope.
373 01:18:04.020 ⇒ 01:18:17.529 Uttam Kumaran: Awash… if you think you can find me cost savings for Redshift, I can also put that in front of them. They’re… that’s their… as I mentioned, they’re not going to care much about performance, but if we can find money for them in saving, like, that’s fine.
374 01:18:17.640 ⇒ 01:18:21.850 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna deliver, a…
375 01:18:24.510 ⇒ 01:18:28.259 Awaish Kumar: Got it. Like, if the tasks are failing constantly on a…
376 01:18:28.440 ⇒ 01:18:34.769 Awaish Kumar: Would that also, like, cost in the… if we are not able to produce insights in a time frame, or…
377 01:18:36.000 ⇒ 01:18:41.730 Uttam Kumaran: But I guess, like, I’m… I guess I’m gonna ask you to prove that, because right now, even if jobs run for an hour.
378 01:18:42.610 ⇒ 01:18:47.040 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I don’t know how many… it doesn’t seem like the jobs are failing for redshift reasons.
379 01:18:48.720 ⇒ 01:18:52.109 Uttam Kumaran: Because I did some tuning, I made some cues and stuff like that, so…
380 01:18:53.270 ⇒ 01:18:57.699 Awaish Kumar: Okay, yeah, we are seeing these viewed in DBT, is it because of that?
381 01:18:59.780 ⇒ 01:19:03.559 Uttam Kumaran: No, the dbt failures are, like, other stuff.
382 01:19:03.800 ⇒ 01:19:09.120 Awaish Kumar: They’re queuing the jobs, like, for… We have.
383 01:19:09.120 ⇒ 01:19:14.739 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but again, like, I can just turn all the jobs to run on an hour, and it’ll be fine, right? So it’s not like…
384 01:19:17.340 ⇒ 01:19:19.410 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I will look into it.
385 01:19:19.410 ⇒ 01:19:21.169 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, check it out. Okay.
386 01:19:21.840 ⇒ 01:19:26.219 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m trying to think if we have anything else…
387 01:19:28.550 ⇒ 01:19:31.820 Uttam Kumaran: You’re talking to Insomnia today, Robert?
388 01:19:33.190 ⇒ 01:19:38.729 Robert Tseng: I need to book time with Amrita. Yeah, I haven’t looked at her calendar. It’s either gonna be today or tomorrow.
389 01:19:39.350 ⇒ 01:19:41.680 Uttam Kumaran: And then we’re talking to Matt Hine tomorrow.
390 01:19:42.100 ⇒ 01:19:43.379 Robert Tseng: Okay.
391 01:19:46.540 ⇒ 01:19:48.250 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think that’s kind of it.
392 01:19:49.010 ⇒ 01:19:51.709 Uttam Kumaran: I’m talking to Mixpanel on Wednesday, also.
393 01:19:51.710 ⇒ 01:19:52.260 Robert Tseng: Great.
394 01:19:54.290 ⇒ 01:19:55.030 Robert Tseng: Okay.
395 01:19:55.380 ⇒ 01:20:01.559 Uttam Kumaran: Alright guys, this was good. I feel, like, way… no, I feel, like, significantly less anxious.
396 01:20:01.760 ⇒ 01:20:17.110 Uttam Kumaran: than when I woke up this morning. But I like that we have these two work streams, and it’s starting to form that way, so yeah, I appreciate it. Let me know how else I can help. The only other thing I wanted to sort of briefly show with everybody I showed it to the other crew is,
397 01:20:18.030 ⇒ 01:20:21.010 Uttam Kumaran: I want to start building these per client.
398 01:20:21.180 ⇒ 01:20:25.229 Uttam Kumaran: So, I may ask Henry, for you and for Zoran.
399 01:20:25.360 ⇒ 01:20:28.129 Uttam Kumaran: And for some other clients to sort of build these out.
400 01:20:28.360 ⇒ 01:20:32.520 Uttam Kumaran: for our work streams, I think this is, like, an incredible visual that…
401 01:20:33.260 ⇒ 01:20:48.969 Uttam Kumaran: like, we can… we can leverage for clients to just start to stack, like, what our tasks are. The linear version of this sucks, like, it’s… it’s just… it’s kind of BS, like, they don’t make it easy, so I just want to have roughly each of the phases, and then ideally, we’re going to start to use this for our enterprise conversations.
402 01:20:49.640 ⇒ 01:20:56.799 Uttam Kumaran: So, I may ask you as guys as a task this week to sort of put your work streams into this, and this becomes a living, kind of, like.
403 01:20:57.310 ⇒ 01:20:58.880 Uttam Kumaran: project plan, so…
404 01:20:59.860 ⇒ 01:21:05.580 Uttam Kumaran: We won’t… we won’t do this for every client, only for the ones that aren’t… get to a big enough size where
405 01:21:05.680 ⇒ 01:21:07.770 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, looking a couple months ahead matter.
406 01:21:09.480 ⇒ 01:21:12.210 Henry Zhao: Do we have an Instagram account that we put this in?
407 01:21:12.860 ⇒ 01:21:15.230 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I will… I’ll make sure you’re all invited.
408 01:21:15.460 ⇒ 01:21:16.120 Henry Zhao: Okay.
409 01:21:16.860 ⇒ 01:21:20.400 Uttam Kumaran: I just, like, rushed, set it up last week, so I’ll just make sure you guys are all invited.
410 01:21:21.180 ⇒ 01:21:23.689 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, alright. Thanks, everyone.
411 01:21:24.000 ⇒ 01:21:24.980 Uttam Kumaran: Talk to you soon.
412 01:21:25.720 ⇒ 01:21:26.520 Henry Zhao: Bye, guys.