Meeting Title: Ellie-Hyp-Readme-Eden Standup Date: 2025-10-16 Meeting participants: Zoran Selinger, Rico Rejoso, Awaish Kumar, Henry Zhao, Robert Tseng, Uttam Kumaran, Amber Lin, Demilade Agboola


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1 00:02:38.700 00:02:39.839 Uttam Kumaran: Hello, guys.

2 00:02:41.230 00:02:42.250 Robert Tseng: Hello!

3 00:02:42.890 00:02:44.720 Zoran Selinger: Morning. Hello.

4 00:02:45.780 00:02:47.000 Henry Zhao: Welcome back, Amber.

5 00:02:47.610 00:02:48.810 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, welcome back.

6 00:02:49.320 00:02:50.450 Amber Lin: Hello!

7 00:02:51.490 00:02:53.969 Uttam Kumaran: We’re matching, look, matching call center headsets.

8 00:02:54.180 00:02:56.450 Amber Lin: This one’s really good.

9 00:02:59.510 00:03:08.570 Uttam Kumaran: Nice. I was briefing Amber on, kind of the new structure, which I like. I like talking… I… I like seeing everybody every day, and…

10 00:03:08.830 00:03:14.480 Uttam Kumaran: I love all the stuff we’re doing for clients. I think we can… yeah, I think we’re crushing it. I think…

11 00:03:14.720 00:03:26.769 Uttam Kumaran: probably the biggest change next week is, like, I think we’re actually lacking on the communication aspect of what we’re doing, which I think will help us achieve our margin. Is one thing I’m sort of noticing, but…

12 00:03:27.130 00:03:38.349 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m, like, I’m locked in. The only bad thing this morning is, like, I was on a sales call at 8.30, and this guy… this guy, like, was just stringing us along, and then I just, like, was like, yo, this is our sixth time talking, like…

13 00:03:38.780 00:03:48.329 Uttam Kumaran: what, like, can… can we get to somewhere? And he was like, well… he started, like, coming at me, and it just, like, he’s, like, trying to ruin… trying to ruin my day, so that was just…

14 00:03:48.330 00:03:49.730 Robert Tseng: Who’s this?

15 00:03:49.730 00:03:51.080 Uttam Kumaran: the AVID guy?

16 00:03:51.520 00:03:52.150 Robert Tseng: Aww.

17 00:03:52.150 00:04:10.279 Uttam Kumaran: He was like, oh, do you know what, like, HLSC Section 7 is? I was like, no. But, like, I don’t know, probably can get back to you. He’s like, oh, like, I would be… he, like, strung me along for another 30 minutes, and then he was like, well, I would be concerned partnering with any organization that doesn’t know that. I’m like.

18 00:04:10.620 00:04:13.950 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, like, who are… I don’t know, where… who are you? Like…

19 00:04:14.290 00:04:20.889 Uttam Kumaran: talking about? I was like, okay, fine, then maybe we’re not right for you. Okay, just hang, see ya, like, and I just left.

20 00:04:21.200 00:04:27.859 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, I was like, I shouldn’t have… I should not have got back on the phone with that guy, that’s my fault, so…

21 00:04:29.710 00:04:32.039 Uttam Kumaran: But, I don’t know, maybe he’ll come back.

22 00:04:33.160 00:04:35.920 Uttam Kumaran: Regardless, let’s talk about…

23 00:04:35.920 00:04:38.069 Robert Tseng: They’ll find out that nobody knows what that is.

24 00:04:38.070 00:04:45.809 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and, you know… So let’s talk about, these clients, so…

25 00:04:45.930 00:04:56.339 Uttam Kumaran: let’s maybe talk about Eden first, so I could just switch things up. I guess, Henry, tell me… give me statuses on things, and how is everything going?

26 00:04:56.340 00:05:06.720 Henry Zhao: Alright, yeah, so Zaran is kind of our magician here. He helped me write a JavaScript function this morning, to kind of finally finish this Catalyst project.

27 00:05:06.880 00:05:20.079 Henry Zhao: However, we just have one final roadblock, which is the order ID that we’re sending to Catalyst is not the same order ID as BASC is sending us. So we either need Bask to send us a different order ID, or we need to send a different order ID to Catalyst. So that’s where we’re at.

28 00:05:20.080 00:05:22.969 Uttam Kumaran: What that means. Where is the Catalyst stuff coming from?

29 00:05:23.890 00:05:27.889 Henry Zhao: They’re getting the transaction ID, and BASC is sending us the BASC order ID.

30 00:05:29.570 00:05:32.710 Awaish Kumar: We are also getting transaction ID in Basque data.

31 00:05:33.020 00:05:37.100 Henry Zhao: But not an order updated, only in order completed, and we need it in the order updated.

32 00:05:37.470 00:05:38.660 Henry Zhao: I’ve already asked that.

33 00:05:38.660 00:05:42.850 Demilade Agboola: We can join it. We can join from computer to updated, right?

34 00:05:43.900 00:05:47.910 Henry Zhao: Yeah, we can, that’s another solution, but I want to use just the exact webhook.

35 00:05:48.410 00:05:50.500 Henry Zhao: Instead of using a query.

36 00:05:52.260 00:05:52.940 Uttam Kumaran: Mmm.

37 00:05:52.940 00:05:54.630 Henry Zhao: It’s every 2 hours.

38 00:05:55.130 00:06:04.579 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I think the worry will be, like, relying on BASC to do something, because, like, they’re not really respond… like, they will respond eventually, but, like, if we want to get it out the door.

39 00:06:04.800 00:06:06.340 Demilade Agboola: It’s always better.

40 00:06:06.590 00:06:14.010 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, but we… we already built some models, like, for CIO. We can create a model in…

41 00:06:14.110 00:06:17.140 Awaish Kumar: segment, which just reads from Twins.

42 00:06:17.530 00:06:20.630 Henry Zhao: Yeah, if you can just help me feed that into a destination function, we should be done.

43 00:06:21.000 00:06:22.900 Awaish Kumar: And then we can just send it to…

44 00:06:23.470 00:06:29.210 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, no, so yeah, in segment 2, yeah, you could also do a join in segment as well, so you can have the transaction ID.

45 00:06:30.420 00:06:34.039 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I just need to know how to feed it into the destination function, so… I can do some research.

46 00:06:34.040 00:06:36.899 Uttam Kumaran: And where is that running? Where is that JavaScript function running?

47 00:06:37.250 00:06:39.859 Henry Zhao: In segment as a destination function.

48 00:06:43.220 00:06:44.410 Uttam Kumaran: Can you link it here?

49 00:06:45.180 00:06:48.669 Henry Zhao: Yeah, this is my first JavaScript function, besides just doing…

50 00:06:48.670 00:06:49.840 Awaish Kumar: Why do we need…

51 00:06:50.260 00:06:50.770 Uttam Kumaran: Nice.

52 00:06:51.120 00:06:55.180 Awaish Kumar: We wrote a JavaScript function to send data to Catalyst.

53 00:06:55.520 00:06:57.799 Henry Zhao: Yeah, cause that’s the… that’s what they told us to do.

54 00:06:59.720 00:07:03.390 Henry Zhao: That was their, like, hack solution to… To get this done.

55 00:07:04.230 00:07:11.650 Awaish Kumar: Okay, there might be, little bit easier way using some existing TPD code, so…

56 00:07:11.870 00:07:12.740 Henry Zhao: Yeah, that’s fine.

57 00:07:13.280 00:07:15.619 Uttam Kumaran: And the JS function, like, when does it get triggered?

58 00:07:16.610 00:07:24.230 Henry Zhao: That’s the thing, right now I’m using the webhook as a trigger, but I can’t use the webhook as a trigger, because I don’t have the transaction ID. So we need a different trigger. That’s all I’m saying, yeah.

59 00:07:26.390 00:07:29.480 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, it’s event streaming, right? You get event…

60 00:07:29.680 00:07:36.780 Awaish Kumar: from bus, and then you can basically send those events forward to any destination.

61 00:07:37.160 00:07:42.220 Awaish Kumar: And it can run maybe on an hour or something. That is predefined schedule.

62 00:07:42.810 00:07:46.869 Henry Zhao: Okay, I’ll look into it. If I need help, I will ask you, OH, because I need this out today, probably.

63 00:07:50.500 00:07:54.579 Henry Zhao: But you already have the contacts away, so if you wanna take over, you can also.

64 00:07:54.980 00:07:58.109 Henry Zhao: I already sent you the context this morning at, like, 2 AM.

65 00:08:01.700 00:08:04.710 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, either way, I’ll let you guys litigate, but if you need to do a lookup.

66 00:08:05.720 00:08:11.680 Uttam Kumaran: Into dbt? Yeah, I guess, Awash, do you want to just take a look at this ticket and then give an opinion in Slack?

67 00:08:12.250 00:08:16.679 Henry Zhao: Yeah, he already gave an opinion in Slack. I just need to update him on what Zoran and I did this morning.

68 00:08:17.210 00:08:17.770 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

69 00:08:19.570 00:08:24.020 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna put this in review, and then… .

70 00:08:24.020 00:08:27.559 Henry Zhao: And like I said, this is the last urgent thing, everything else can just take our time now.

71 00:08:28.250 00:08:33.620 Henry Zhao: Like, coming up is just the attribution stitching, which is perfect. Zoran already helped me with that.

72 00:08:33.900 00:08:37.699 Henry Zhao: Forecasting, Mixpanel, Pharmacy SLA.

73 00:08:38.010 00:08:41.579 Henry Zhao: So I’m meeting with Robert on pharmacy visit, right after this call.

74 00:08:43.080 00:08:43.659 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

75 00:08:43.919 00:08:44.659 Henry Zhao: And that’s it.

76 00:08:44.660 00:08:48.129 Uttam Kumaran: Anything else… anything else I can update?

77 00:08:48.590 00:08:58.820 Henry Zhao: Yeah, the refund dash for product, ROAS and LTV, I need to get that done this week also, but there might be some modeling needs, I will have an answer on that today. I just haven’t had a chance to look at it.

78 00:08:59.310 00:08:59.860 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

79 00:09:04.890 00:09:08.279 Uttam Kumaran: I guess… Done a lot of ways.

80 00:09:09.180 00:09:11.909 Uttam Kumaran: Or is there on anything? Yeah, any updates?

81 00:09:14.380 00:09:16.080 Zoran Selinger: On Eden? No.

82 00:09:16.080 00:09:16.730 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

83 00:09:19.250 00:09:26.640 Demilade Agboola: Okay, so from my end, my perspective, I started working on the… Product solo summary rework.

84 00:09:26.910 00:09:34.770 Demilade Agboola: Not gone too far in, probably, like, 20% in. Okay.

85 00:09:35.430 00:09:40.630 Demilade Agboola: But the idea is to be able to test and then have that out by tomorrow.

86 00:09:41.230 00:09:42.760 Uttam Kumaran: What’s the gist?

87 00:09:43.570 00:09:50.910 Demilade Agboola: So the… so right now, Product Sales Summary is using, like, some legacy… so some of, robert’s logic.

88 00:09:51.320 00:09:55.319 Demilade Agboola: Rob, using some of Rob’s logic.

89 00:09:55.520 00:09:59.940 Demilade Agboola: And then, it’s also… like…

90 00:10:00.680 00:10:11.500 Demilade Agboola: It’s already getting big and hard to, like, maneuver, so trying to break it out into smaller bits where we can have intermediate logic that we just use, and then we can tweak the intermediate logic better, basically.

91 00:10:12.990 00:10:13.610 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

92 00:10:15.580 00:10:17.989 Demilade Agboola: So that’s… that’s what’s going on with that.

93 00:10:18.390 00:10:19.780 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, try to use cursor.

94 00:10:20.400 00:10:21.390 Demilade Agboola: Oh, definitely.

95 00:10:21.660 00:10:26.819 Demilade Agboola: Then, the second thing I’m working on is the Brad.

96 00:10:27.700 00:10:31.920 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so something that I’m working on is Brad’s request for products and cogs.

97 00:10:32.090 00:10:36.970 Demilade Agboola: So the COGS part of it is… wonky…

98 00:10:37.580 00:10:39.410 Demilade Agboola: But the volume is easy to do.

99 00:10:40.180 00:10:44.800 Demilade Agboola: Right, like, so for instance, we only have cogs, clearly, for, like, Boothween.

100 00:10:45.920 00:10:47.120 Demilade Agboola: That’s one.

101 00:10:47.520 00:10:55.880 Demilade Agboola: Two is, like, COGS is not necessarily by product ID. It’s a combination of product ID and file size.

102 00:10:57.010 00:11:02.540 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I thought we said last… yesterday we talked about, like, we’re gonna just do a COGS session next week, right?

103 00:11:02.540 00:11:03.940 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so…

104 00:11:03.940 00:11:05.910 Uttam Kumaran: Do you wanna kick… you wanna kick this until then?

105 00:11:06.610 00:11:09.550 Demilade Agboola: I would suggest we do.

106 00:11:09.550 00:11:12.660 Uttam Kumaran: Do you wanna… Do you want to message that to him?

107 00:11:13.650 00:11:19.250 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, that’s… I’ve actually messaged him and said that, like, the… the COGS part is…

108 00:11:20.720 00:11:29.759 Demilade Agboola: Is it as, like, right now, let me read my exact message. I said Cox file isn’t as straightforward, but we’re currently building out a new way to make it work, though. So that was my message to him.

109 00:11:30.440 00:11:35.190 Uttam Kumaran: Can you send him another message right now saying, like, hey, we’re meeting on Monday to talk about this?

110 00:11:35.670 00:11:37.760 Demilade Agboola: Okay. And we should have an update next week.

111 00:11:38.210 00:11:39.010 Demilade Agboola: Okay.

112 00:11:39.740 00:11:40.290 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

113 00:11:46.030 00:11:48.229 Uttam Kumaran: Can you also link the Slack thread here?

114 00:11:49.080 00:11:51.800 Demilade Agboola: Okay, sure, we’ll do…

115 00:11:52.020 00:11:56.640 Uttam Kumaran: You just… yeah, if you hit… if you hit Command-K, you can type in Slack and link Slack message.

116 00:12:05.610 00:12:12.290 Uttam Kumaran: So, Amber, this is an example of, like, okay, we’re working on this, Brad needs to just, like, get an update from us to buy us time.

117 00:12:12.630 00:12:19.359 Uttam Kumaran: I can’t do that, right? Like, or… it’s just, like, a lot. So that’s where, like, I’ve been working with Rico on, like.

118 00:12:19.840 00:12:27.080 Uttam Kumaran: basically like, okay, let’s get an update back to RAT, stuff like that. So, okay, great. I don’t think we’re gonna get a lot of this done…

119 00:12:27.250 00:12:30.759 Uttam Kumaran: So, what can I move out? And, like, what is actually high priority?

120 00:12:30.950 00:12:35.900 Uttam Kumaran: So, Waish, maybe we’ll start with your stuff, like, migrating CIO,

121 00:12:36.000 00:12:39.279 Uttam Kumaran: dismissed SLA orders, you still feel good about these?

122 00:12:43.370 00:12:47.680 Awaish Kumar: Sorry, I was on mute. I can finish these two, but okay.

123 00:12:47.840 00:12:51.279 Awaish Kumar: The one at the bottom is… I don’t think so

124 00:12:51.760 00:12:52.950 Awaish Kumar: I can do this week.

125 00:12:53.750 00:12:55.000 Uttam Kumaran: Who is this one for?

126 00:12:55.280 00:12:58.730 Awaish Kumar: I don’t know, I just… Oh, this came on. Oh, Henry, this is new?

127 00:12:58.730 00:13:00.460 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Henry, is this urgent?

128 00:13:00.690 00:13:02.810 Henry Zhao: I don’t think so.

129 00:13:03.070 00:13:04.309 Henry Zhao: I put it as medium.

130 00:13:05.360 00:13:05.960 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

131 00:13:07.400 00:13:08.090 Henry Zhao: Yeah.

132 00:13:08.510 00:13:10.930 Henry Zhao: I just left a comment away to see if you can help me with this.

133 00:13:13.070 00:13:17.750 Awaish Kumar: I… I would love to have us session on Catalyst thing, right?

134 00:13:18.410 00:13:20.090 Henry Zhao: This is not Catalyst, though, this is.

135 00:13:20.090 00:13:22.899 Awaish Kumar: I know that, but I’m just making a comment here.

136 00:13:22.900 00:13:24.620 Henry Zhao: I can give you a session on the catalyst.

137 00:13:25.500 00:13:28.869 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I would just knock that out before we take on anything new.

138 00:13:29.130 00:13:29.760 Henry Zhao: Okay.

139 00:13:30.380 00:13:30.960 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

140 00:13:32.850 00:13:35.519 Uttam Kumaran: So you can finish up all this attribution stuff.

141 00:13:35.920 00:13:36.250 Henry Zhao: Yep.

142 00:13:36.250 00:13:40.030 Uttam Kumaran: And then… Okay, Henry, can I… should I move these out?

143 00:13:41.490 00:13:43.510 Henry Zhao: Sure.

144 00:13:44.170 00:13:45.139 Henry Zhao: I’m gonna talk to the…

145 00:13:45.140 00:13:46.260 Uttam Kumaran: bad about it.

146 00:13:46.270 00:13:49.210 Henry Zhao: Yeah, but I just, if we’re not gonna…

147 00:13:49.210 00:13:50.650 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

148 00:13:51.210 00:13:55.150 Henry Zhao: Yeah, you can move the middle one out, but I was gonna talk to Robert about the…

149 00:13:55.470 00:13:58.620 Henry Zhao: 10.39 and 10.55 today, right after this.

150 00:14:01.180 00:14:06.819 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so I will… I’ll move it out. If you end up doing a significant amount of work, just bring it back in.

151 00:14:08.420 00:14:10.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.

152 00:14:11.350 00:14:16.439 Uttam Kumaran: Robert, do we… do we want to talk about this this week?

153 00:14:16.650 00:14:17.870 Uttam Kumaran: Next week?

154 00:14:17.900 00:14:19.180 Robert Tseng: If anything, I can just try to…

155 00:14:19.180 00:14:21.539 Uttam Kumaran: I grabbed 30 minutes on this next week.

156 00:14:21.540 00:14:27.119 Robert Tseng: I, I went… I already prepared a draft. I’m talking with Henry about this in our 101.

157 00:14:27.380 00:14:44.759 Robert Tseng: Basically what he’s gonna do is, after we’re clear, we’re gonna send, like, an agenda to Rebecca, the pharmacy owner, whatever, and then, yeah, I think they already have, like, a week lined up, so he’s just gonna have… and I think it’s gonna be first week of November, or last week of October.

158 00:14:45.430 00:14:46.279 Henry Zhao: Yeah, first week of November.

159 00:14:46.280 00:14:46.910 Uttam Kumaran: So…

160 00:14:47.250 00:14:47.910 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

161 00:14:48.310 00:14:50.360 Uttam Kumaran: Great, okay, so then I’ll just leave this.

162 00:14:50.530 00:14:54.820 Uttam Kumaran: If you… do you think this will, like, get wrapped up this week, or should we just, like, move this next week?

163 00:14:55.450 00:14:59.810 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, I don’t think we’ll make… I don’t think we’ll…

164 00:15:00.590 00:15:04.779 Robert Tseng: Yeah, things will probably be finalized by next week.

165 00:15:05.040 00:15:05.929 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.

166 00:15:05.930 00:15:06.530 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

167 00:15:07.010 00:15:11.239 Uttam Kumaran: Mainly because, like, I’ll be the backstop on, like, did this happen? Like, so.

168 00:15:11.240 00:15:11.850 Robert Tseng: It doesn’t slip.

169 00:15:11.850 00:15:14.409 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah, okay, cool. Great.

170 00:15:15.390 00:15:21.849 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I expect them to have a… make a… to put the purchasing decision in front of them this week, so… but I don’t think they’ll decide until next week.

171 00:15:22.460 00:15:23.020 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

172 00:15:23.620 00:15:26.999 Uttam Kumaran: And then, maybe two things that I could use some help with…

173 00:15:27.600 00:15:36.439 Uttam Kumaran: from you, Amber, is preparing the deck. So, in tomorrow’s Eden Sprint Review, we were going to work on the deck.

174 00:15:36.690 00:15:44.020 Uttam Kumaran: To then hand off to Robert for Monday. So, come to two things there. One is,

175 00:15:44.500 00:15:53.020 Uttam Kumaran: I had Hannah give some feedback on how do we move the current deck format to our new format that is in Slack somewhere.

176 00:15:53.420 00:15:57.389 Uttam Kumaran: She left some comments, so one is, like, if we can…

177 00:15:57.580 00:16:02.709 Uttam Kumaran: Sort of just, like, make sure that that is happening, and then second, me and you can work on

178 00:16:03.030 00:16:07.169 Uttam Kumaran: If you want, me and you can work on, basically, like, what needs to go on that deck for…

179 00:16:07.360 00:16:08.350 Uttam Kumaran: Monday.

180 00:16:11.810 00:16:15.119 Amber Lin: just the audience for this deck, we’re presenting it to you.

181 00:16:15.150 00:16:15.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

182 00:16:17.010 00:16:20.519 Amber Lin: How is it different from the previous deck that Robert was preparing?

183 00:16:20.520 00:16:24.380 Uttam Kumaran: Same, same deck, just new, has the Brain Forge, has the Brain Forge.

184 00:16:24.380 00:16:24.730 Amber Lin: Oh, gosh.

185 00:16:24.730 00:16:31.910 Uttam Kumaran: template on it, and some of the slides, like, our slide on Remo was not great. I think we just tightened some stuff up.

186 00:16:32.160 00:16:33.210 Amber Lin: Okay. Broadly. Okay.

187 00:16:33.490 00:16:37.310 Amber Lin: Sounds good. Okay, I’ll… I have… I mean, I have a…

188 00:16:37.600 00:16:41.570 Amber Lin: ticket for the deck, and then I saw that you assigned the new ticket, so that’s good.

189 00:16:42.120 00:16:47.190 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Yeah, so you just take a look at that, and tomorrow, while we have everybody on the line, I want to.

190 00:16:47.190 00:16:47.550 Amber Lin: focus on…

191 00:16:47.550 00:16:53.460 Uttam Kumaran: I’m talking about, like, what did we get done this week in English? Second, I want to focus on what did we push out?

192 00:16:53.580 00:17:00.740 Uttam Kumaran: Because I want to give Robert, like, hey, these are the things that we got asked for and we couldn’t get done, and then I want to talk about opportunities, which is backlog.

193 00:17:00.880 00:17:06.560 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, if we can get 3 slides on that, like, that is, I think, ideal. So, and then…

194 00:17:07.030 00:17:09.479 Uttam Kumaran: Of course, like, we’ll talk about wins and stuff, so…

195 00:17:09.819 00:17:22.809 Uttam Kumaran: if we can have a ver… if I can… if we can have a version of this, like, later today, even just something that’s blank, I can start putting in some comments, and then tomorrow, when we have everybody on the line, we can just wrap up the structure… the content.

196 00:17:23.220 00:17:26.510 Amber Lin: Gotcha. Okay, and Hannah sent the template in…

197 00:17:27.450 00:17:30.390 Uttam Kumaran: There’s… I will have to look at it after this, there’s something…

198 00:17:30.390 00:17:33.380 Amber Lin: Okay, I’ll… I’ll get to, I’ll get to that, I’ll ask you guys.

199 00:17:33.930 00:17:46.520 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I feel like the content of what we’re describing tomorrow… it’s basically a dry run tomorrow. Like, those are all the elements I need. I need the wins, I need the, like, what we got done, what we pushed out or slashes in our backlog.

200 00:17:46.520 00:18:05.770 Robert Tseng: And then, like, I’m gonna… I mean, I’m expecting… I’ve already… we’re two weeks in the budget conversation. They usually do things, like, at… towards end of month or whatever, so I’m gonna bring it up again, and I’m expecting us to get the budget extension by end of… end of this month. So, I think that’s… I want to keep pushing towards that, so…

201 00:18:05.770 00:18:06.940 Amber Lin: Gotcha, okay.

202 00:18:08.080 00:18:08.680 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.

203 00:18:09.440 00:18:13.359 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, wonderful. Zoran, can I move these out?

204 00:18:14.500 00:18:15.340 Uttam Kumaran: 3?

205 00:18:18.950 00:18:19.820 Uttam Kumaran: You’re on mute.

206 00:18:21.820 00:18:25.670 Zoran Selinger: Sorry, let me just zoom in a little bit to see exactly… Looking good.

207 00:18:30.320 00:18:35.279 Uttam Kumaran: Is my screen… is it my screen… is it, like, way too big on people’s screen? I can just share a linear, by the way.

208 00:18:35.280 00:18:39.769 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I, I just… 046 is the…

209 00:18:39.770 00:18:41.200 Zoran Selinger: It’s fine, I’m going…

210 00:18:41.450 00:18:45.309 Awaish Kumar: as part of crowdfill work, so I think if that’s canceled.

211 00:18:45.590 00:18:46.909 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so that’s canceled.

212 00:18:47.610 00:18:48.220 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

213 00:18:48.220 00:18:57.310 Zoran Selinger: That one, we should cancel for now. There’s no need to go into that, since the cost is very minimal.

214 00:18:58.170 00:19:03.749 Zoran Selinger: Okay. They were almost… they were basically laughing when we were calculating the cost.

215 00:19:05.370 00:19:06.409 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.

216 00:19:09.170 00:19:21.499 Zoran Selinger: And they’re a little bit afraid to use transform rules, because they already have a few in place, and that was set up by a person that’s not longer in the company. That was really, like.

217 00:19:21.500 00:19:32.559 Zoran Selinger: specialist for Cloudflare, and they don’t have something like that, so they are really afraid to, you know, break something with any additional rules there.

218 00:19:33.780 00:19:34.320 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

219 00:19:34.510 00:19:35.160 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.

220 00:19:35.490 00:19:39.480 Zoran Selinger: So…

221 00:19:43.520 00:19:56.540 Zoran Selinger: Purchasing by adding the second area. Oh, so that’s, that’s about Henry, and this is about… I haven’t had a chance to look into this. This is about the copy event from the edge, right?

222 00:19:58.780 00:19:59.780 Zoran Selinger: You remember?

223 00:20:00.730 00:20:03.640 Henry Zhao: No, but I could look through the chats for 10 days ago.

224 00:20:03.970 00:20:05.369 Henry Zhao: For anything Stuart said.

225 00:20:05.960 00:20:11.719 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, I was just focusing on Ellie, for the last, you know, 10 days or so.

226 00:20:11.720 00:20:12.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Okay.

227 00:20:13.320 00:20:13.810 Zoran Selinger: I’ll adjust.

228 00:20:13.810 00:20:16.149 Uttam Kumaran: Jessica Henry, do you want to follow up on this?

229 00:20:16.450 00:20:17.080 Henry Zhao: Yeah,

230 00:20:17.080 00:20:20.600 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, we can talk about it again on Monday, if it’s… doesn’t seem like…

231 00:20:21.200 00:20:23.400 Uttam Kumaran: If it’s not come back up since then, then…

232 00:20:24.090 00:20:28.469 Uttam Kumaran: Like, if you find a context, just toss it in here. We’ll talk about it.

233 00:20:28.660 00:20:28.980 Zoran Selinger: No.

234 00:20:28.980 00:20:29.620 Uttam Kumaran: Monday.

235 00:20:32.280 00:20:32.890 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

236 00:20:34.810 00:20:35.880 Uttam Kumaran: Great.

237 00:20:36.650 00:20:42.460 Uttam Kumaran: This one, too, I’m gonna kick out, we’ll… at some point.

238 00:20:42.970 00:20:44.889 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. Alright, I feel good.

239 00:20:48.230 00:20:55.640 Uttam Kumaran: let’s talk about Ellie’s stuff. I guess, Zoran, are you still feel on track for this week? I sent an update

240 00:20:55.800 00:21:01.249 Uttam Kumaran: Did you see that Allison left… sorry, I’m just saying, like, 10 things. First thing, Allison left,

241 00:21:01.460 00:21:03.299 Uttam Kumaran: A message on my update.

242 00:21:03.910 00:21:05.410 Uttam Kumaran: in the Slack.

243 00:21:06.340 00:21:10.409 Uttam Kumaran: I… Don’t know, so I didn’t answer it.

244 00:21:12.740 00:21:14.010 Zoran Selinger: Huh, okay, okay.

245 00:21:14.290 00:21:15.700 Zoran Selinger: When’s it?

246 00:21:16.790 00:21:21.929 Uttam Kumaran: She was like… Are we sending events only by unique user?

247 00:21:26.330 00:21:31.089 Zoran Selinger: Or we’re sending only events by any good… no, we are sending every event.

248 00:21:31.790 00:21:41.280 Zoran Selinger: We are setting every event, basically, if they want uniques, this is something that they can set up on the… on the Google Ads platform when they’re setting up.

249 00:21:41.380 00:21:45.269 Zoran Selinger: conversion actions. But yeah, okay, I’ll reply there.

250 00:21:45.270 00:21:45.930 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

251 00:21:45.930 00:21:49.749 Zoran Selinger: And put that as unread and reply there.

252 00:21:49.860 00:22:04.859 Zoran Selinger: Okay, okay, great. After this, yeah. So, yeah, I am on track. I just finished the worker that will upload conversions, so tomorrow I’m kind of focusing on a little bit of testing and monitoring.

253 00:22:05.110 00:22:16.239 Zoran Selinger: Set up as well. It’s just probably just… I’m gonna look into a few metrics and set up a few alerts, there for monitoring, and we’ll see if I…

254 00:22:16.240 00:22:17.630 Uttam Kumaran: It’s gonna be in BigQuery?

255 00:22:18.830 00:22:24.760 Zoran Selinger: So that’s gonna be… in GCP, in general.

256 00:22:24.760 00:22:25.550 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, CB.

257 00:22:25.550 00:22:26.280 Zoran Selinger: properly.

258 00:22:26.640 00:22:27.460 Uttam Kumaran: And then monitor…

259 00:22:27.460 00:22:27.949 Zoran Selinger: The alert?

260 00:22:27.950 00:22:28.300 Uttam Kumaran: are gonna…

261 00:22:28.300 00:22:30.090 Zoran Selinger: BigQuery is not going to be a big.

262 00:22:30.090 00:22:36.919 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The alerts are gonna come into… like, these are budget alerts, or these are just error alerts, and then where are they getting shipped to?

263 00:22:36.920 00:22:40.140 Zoran Selinger: So I have to decide, on, on that.

264 00:22:40.360 00:22:52.150 Zoran Selinger: Still, I haven’t even started thinking about it yet, but, tomorrow should be enough time for me to figure that out. Just so I… just so we know,

265 00:22:52.780 00:22:59.770 Zoran Selinger: That something’s… something’s happening, and then we’ll have everything… all the errors are gonna go into the dead letter Q?

266 00:23:00.080 00:23:04.820 Zoran Selinger: Okay. For us to look into and try, you know, reprocess if we need to.

267 00:23:06.020 00:23:12.060 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, if you can ship it into Slack, that would be great, and then…

268 00:23:12.540 00:23:17.220 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t care about the ones that are working, although what would be helpful is, like.

269 00:23:17.710 00:23:20.340 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, you can decide on, like, a monthly or weekly

270 00:23:20.760 00:23:23.300 Uttam Kumaran: Something around, like, how many events were sent.

271 00:23:24.810 00:23:26.550 Uttam Kumaran: I think we’re gonna have to see, sort of…

272 00:23:26.550 00:23:39.099 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, metrics are… metrics should be in there. Okay, let me, let me look into that. That’s fine. But yeah, of course, I also, I also… I’m thinking about prioritizing, the, you know, errors.

273 00:23:40.090 00:23:46.209 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, so the errors, like, I try to get them shipped into Slack, because that’ll be the easiest thing for everybody to see.

274 00:23:46.210 00:23:46.690 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.

275 00:23:46.690 00:23:50.529 Uttam Kumaran: Ideally, you can ship it into our Slack, or if…

276 00:23:50.870 00:23:55.340 Uttam Kumaran: If you ship into client Slack, they’re gonna ping you, so…

277 00:23:55.950 00:23:58.180 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll let you decide what to do.

278 00:23:58.180 00:23:58.690 Zoran Selinger: Sure.

279 00:23:58.690 00:24:03.820 Uttam Kumaran: You could do ours until we get it working, and then you can share them our process, whatever, but you can think about it.

280 00:24:03.820 00:24:05.250 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah, I understand.

281 00:24:05.250 00:24:08.589 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so for hype,

282 00:24:09.860 00:24:23.109 Uttam Kumaran: Awash worked on this stuff for the spike for Kerrigan. I… we realized that we didn’t have another meeting with them booked today, so… two things. One, I’m booking a weekly with them.

283 00:24:23.230 00:24:26.820 Uttam Kumaran: So that’ll just happen. Second,

284 00:24:26.930 00:24:32.939 Uttam Kumaran: I messaged saying, can we meet today? If we don’t meet today, I’ll try to meet them tomorrow. We have a bunch of progress here.

285 00:24:33.050 00:24:35.669 Uttam Kumaran: Probably the only thing to flag…

286 00:24:35.890 00:24:39.689 Uttam Kumaran: Robert, is that our contract ends with them on the 23rd?

287 00:24:40.030 00:24:42.739 Uttam Kumaran: Or something like that.

288 00:24:43.040 00:24:47.840 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah, on 10-23… So I guess I just wanna, like…

289 00:24:47.970 00:24:50.100 Uttam Kumaran: What, what, what do you need?

290 00:24:51.450 00:24:53.950 Uttam Kumaran: To, like, have that conversation with them, like…

291 00:24:54.380 00:25:01.739 Uttam Kumaran: we… is it just, like, a roadmap? Can I prepare you? I was just gonna prepare you a couple slides on, like, what we’ve done so far, like, what’s helpful.

292 00:25:02.010 00:25:12.739 Robert Tseng: Yeah, well, I mean, what I would like to do then is, I’ll meet… I’ll get Audrey for lunch sometime next week, and I just want to walk her through

293 00:25:13.060 00:25:32.910 Robert Tseng: this is… this is the progress we’ve made, this is the roadmap, or whatever, and I want to see how… if she’s willing to transition over to the next phase, or if she wants to kind of stay in… I mean, I’d rather her not stay in this, like, ad hoc hourly model, like, I want to move her in towards, like, you know, obviously a 3-month contract, something with more fixed hours, whatever, so…

294 00:25:32.960 00:25:46.449 Robert Tseng: If we don’t… if we feel like we’ve done enough discovery for that, I think that’s what I would like to push for. Otherwise, I can… I’m sure she would probably extend what we’re doing right now, but I’m wondering if this is a good time to… to… to move her to the next phase.

295 00:25:47.150 00:25:51.160 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. So, I will have that for you, that’d be pretty easy.

296 00:25:51.630 00:25:54.490 Robert Tseng: I’ve spoken with Elle. Elle is her co-founder.

297 00:25:54.490 00:25:55.200 Uttam Kumaran: Sure.

298 00:25:55.200 00:25:56.380 Robert Tseng: Okay. On Monday.

299 00:25:56.380 00:25:57.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

300 00:25:57.400 00:25:58.430 Uttam Kumaran: Briefly.

301 00:26:03.930 00:26:08.539 Robert Tseng: Well, ELP doesn’t make any of the vendor decisions anyway, but, like, okay, I just wanted to make sure we.

302 00:26:08.540 00:26:13.100 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I had FaceTime with her, I… we talked mainly about Stripe stuff, like, I didn’t really get…

303 00:26:13.740 00:26:15.739 Uttam Kumaran: A chance to schmooze or anything, so…

304 00:26:15.740 00:26:16.350 Robert Tseng: Okay.

305 00:26:18.240 00:26:19.580 Awaish Kumar: Sorry, go ahead.

306 00:26:19.940 00:26:24.069 Awaish Kumar: some of the tickets to John, that’s, like, Spike, Zeus, and…

307 00:26:24.070 00:26:26.850 Uttam Kumaran: Can I… can I keep that in review so I can take a look?

308 00:26:27.050 00:26:28.759 Awaish Kumar: Aragon, yep, okay.

309 00:26:29.190 00:26:33.910 Uttam Kumaran: Sorry, I’ll… you’ll get credit for this. I promise.

310 00:26:35.040 00:26:38.360 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I updated the intake flow diagram as well, if you want to review them.

311 00:26:39.100 00:26:40.940 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice, okay.

312 00:26:41.600 00:26:43.199 Awaish Kumar: That’s in Denver.

313 00:26:43.660 00:26:50.770 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Yeah, just so I can take a look. Okay, great. And then, read me…

314 00:26:51.700 00:26:56.019 Uttam Kumaran: I guess give me… Henry, do you have any chance to work on this yesterday?

315 00:26:56.420 00:26:59.540 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I finished the outline, then I’m gonna go over with Robert after this call.

316 00:27:00.040 00:27:07.669 Robert Tseng: Okay, you guys are gonna go over it. Good, great, great. Yeah, and we have a client call today, yeah, so I also had some updates, so we have plenty to share with them.

317 00:27:08.100 00:27:11.870 Henry Zhao: And then Validate Mongo, I’m working with the engineer to understand the data. He just… he just responds.

318 00:27:11.870 00:27:14.070 Robert Tseng: Who did she connect you with? Which engineer?

319 00:27:14.070 00:27:15.210 Henry Zhao: Mark? Mark.

320 00:27:15.210 00:27:16.210 Robert Tseng: Mark, okay.

321 00:27:16.940 00:27:17.620 Robert Tseng: Fair.

322 00:27:18.430 00:27:20.410 Uttam Kumaran: And then where is that outline? Is it Notion?

323 00:27:22.860 00:27:25.280 Henry Zhao: It’s in a Google Doc.

324 00:27:26.220 00:27:29.899 Uttam Kumaran: Can you attach it to something here?

325 00:27:30.300 00:27:34.189 Henry Zhao: Sure… I was gonna go over it and then attach it with Robert, yeah.

326 00:27:34.880 00:27:39.069 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, well, I’m just gonna create… like, what is… what ticket is that related to? Do we have one for that?

327 00:27:39.070 00:27:44.750 Henry Zhao: That was, yeah, we do. It’s R-E-A- let me check. It is R-E-A dash…

328 00:27:49.000 00:27:49.800 Uttam Kumaran: Dex?

329 00:27:51.020 00:27:51.720 Henry Zhao: Kevin?

330 00:27:52.870 00:27:53.640 Uttam Kumaran: 5?

331 00:27:53.790 00:27:56.480 Uttam Kumaran: I guess there… I guess there’s no… I thought there was.

332 00:27:57.920 00:27:59.430 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll just make one.

333 00:27:59.430 00:28:00.630 Henry Zhao: Yeah, just make one, please.

334 00:28:01.380 00:28:06.130 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, what is… what? Give me the… give me the…

335 00:28:06.130 00:28:07.440 Henry Zhao: Just project outline.

336 00:28:07.970 00:28:10.010 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Manobo, give me the, what is the project?

337 00:28:12.030 00:28:15.939 Henry Zhao: I thought it was just the overall project of, like, what we want to deliver and what we want to look at.

338 00:28:16.210 00:28:18.099 Henry Zhao: product analytics.

339 00:28:18.580 00:28:21.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but is this on conversions? Is this on, like…

340 00:28:21.070 00:28:21.940 Henry Zhao: Everything.

341 00:28:22.520 00:28:26.879 Henry Zhao: Conversions, drop off, Feature usage, pretty much everything.

342 00:28:28.670 00:28:34.470 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I don’t like hearing that, so give me some specifics at some point, but…

343 00:28:34.470 00:28:36.019 Henry Zhao: They’re in the outlines now.

344 00:28:36.530 00:28:39.840 Uttam Kumaran: Attach what you have here, and then I wanna… okay, so that’s fine, so…

345 00:28:41.400 00:28:49.140 Uttam Kumaran: I know we’re waiting on… there’s also one thing, Robert, there’s an amplitude question from from their team.

346 00:28:49.440 00:28:50.110 Uttam Kumaran: I’m like.

347 00:28:50.110 00:28:54.039 Robert Tseng: Oh, yeah. I just… I just punted that. I’ll talk to her on the call.

348 00:28:54.660 00:29:00.370 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, cool. I haven’t… I’m… I don’t know if I’m gonna be able to get on the phone with Amplitude this week to, like, try stuff, so…

349 00:29:00.580 00:29:02.480 Robert Tseng: Yeah. Yeah.

350 00:29:03.200 00:29:03.780 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

351 00:29:04.170 00:29:10.709 Uttam Kumaran: A couple other… one of the couple things I just wanted to share while we have a couple minutes… we have a couple minutes, right? 3 minutes? Okay.

352 00:29:10.750 00:29:24.380 Uttam Kumaran: So, two things. One is I worked on, two… I worked on… oh, Rico and I worked on four things yesterday. One is, dashboard requirements. So, anytime we have a new dashboard, a ticket will get created for create this dashboard.

353 00:29:24.680 00:29:37.169 Uttam Kumaran: analysts on the team will get re-required to produce this outline for approval. Once this is approved, then dashboard can get created. This is just basic stuff about, like, what is the point of this dashboard? Who’s it going to?

354 00:29:37.290 00:29:54.939 Uttam Kumaran: enough things for us to catch up front, get approval, and then execute. Very similarly, we have an analysis outline template. So, Henry, I didn’t get this to you yesterday, but, like, ideally, your process, when you think about an analysis, you would produce this. I’ll just zoom in. So, ideally.

355 00:29:55.020 00:30:02.759 Uttam Kumaran: what… well, if you think about the three characters involved, right? You have me, project manager, you have you, analyst, you have Robert, lead analyst, or whatever.

356 00:30:02.860 00:30:10.270 Uttam Kumaran: you would come in here, Robert gives you a directive, hey, go figure out, like, why user retention dropped, or you guys come up with that yourself.

357 00:30:10.360 00:30:26.970 Uttam Kumaran: you would come in this document, fill this out, understand, like, who is it getting presented to, what format, is this a dashboard, notebook, whatever. There’s business questions, okay, you have all those questions. What is the outcome? Okay, if you find X, then they can do Y, they have to change pricing, they have to update

358 00:30:26.970 00:30:39.480 Uttam Kumaran: design, they have to change marketing, blah blah blah. At this point, you also may have some hypotheses, right? So, when we’re talking about the ticket, me, Robert, or you, or whoever’s in the client may be like, well, I probably… it’s a couple of these things, you should go check.

359 00:30:39.490 00:30:45.589 Uttam Kumaran: And then… this… the rest of this stuff, I don’t care much about, but it’s mainly, like.

360 00:30:45.870 00:30:59.690 Uttam Kumaran: okay, if you need to know, like, hey, I need user info, where is that from, I need what info, this is something that the analytics engineers or data engineers on your client can help you if you’re like, hey, I need user info, campaign info, whatever, where are you getting that from?

361 00:30:59.940 00:31:01.900 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t really…

362 00:31:02.540 00:31:07.129 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, the rest is whatever, like, we’ll see what’s worth it or what’s not.

363 00:31:07.420 00:31:13.879 Uttam Kumaran: And then ideally, the first ticket is produced this outline, that goes into review. Once it’s approved, you can work on it.

364 00:31:14.010 00:31:18.280 Uttam Kumaran: And then the output is pretty clear, the output format. So…

365 00:31:18.280 00:31:22.199 Henry Zhao: Okay, so I’ll have one of these made by tomorrow, based on Robert’s feedback, right after us, after this.

366 00:31:22.430 00:31:23.490 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, okay.

367 00:31:25.150 00:31:28.229 Uttam Kumaran: Robert, is this… Sound like a good plan?

368 00:31:28.790 00:31:29.989 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that sounds good.

369 00:31:30.210 00:31:35.449 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. So I know we have… we’re gonna have a couple of these for Insomnia, we’re gonna have a couple of these for README,

370 00:31:35.690 00:31:54.990 Uttam Kumaran: Ideally, we’re going to have some of this for Eden as well, so I would… I want to start pushing forward these artifacts to get created and go through the review process before getting executed. Ideally, what we’re doing is either the analysts or the lead analyst will present this work, but this is going to be our checkpoints towards that, so…

371 00:31:55.320 00:32:03.029 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. We have a couple of follow-ups that I will get, and then, yeah, tomorrow we’ll just go through sprint reviews.

372 00:32:04.250 00:32:13.680 Uttam Kumaran: I think we’ll try to batch as much as possible tomorrow, and then also do kind of a little bit of a batch retro, if possible. But yeah, thank you for the time.

373 00:32:16.410 00:32:17.130 Uttam Kumaran: Talk to you guys later.

374 00:32:17.720 00:32:18.510 Henry Zhao: Thanks, guys.

375 00:32:19.350 00:32:19.880 Demilade Agboola: Earth.