Meeting Title: Ellie-Hyp-Readme-Eden Standup Date: 2025-10-13 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Zoran Selinger, Rico Rejoso, Samuel Roberts, Henry Zhao, Casie Aviles, Awaish Kumar, Robert Tseng, Demilade Agboola
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1 00:00:21.980 ⇒ 00:00:24.569 Samuel Roberts: I just realized I may not be needed here.
2 00:00:25.030 ⇒ 00:00:32.510 Uttam Kumaran: You… I don’t think you’re needed here. Yeah, I forgot, I didn’t realize you moved to the, was it, the default over, or whatever, so… Yeah, you’re good. Alright, cool. Alright.
3 00:00:33.170 ⇒ 00:00:33.870 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you, dude.
4 00:00:36.400 ⇒ 00:00:38.669 Uttam Kumaran: Hi, everyone. Good morning, good afternoon.
5 00:00:38.670 ⇒ 00:00:39.290 Zoran Selinger: I agree.
6 00:00:42.470 ⇒ 00:00:44.460 Zoran Selinger: Utam, just a quick question.
7 00:00:44.460 ⇒ 00:00:44.820 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
8 00:00:44.820 ⇒ 00:00:48.469 Zoran Selinger: Samuel has experience with Cloudflare?
9 00:00:49.040 ⇒ 00:00:49.820 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
10 00:00:49.820 ⇒ 00:00:51.070 Zoran Selinger: Okay, okay.
11 00:00:52.850 ⇒ 00:00:55.129 Uttam Kumaran: So Sam has done a lot of front-end stuff.
12 00:00:55.630 ⇒ 00:01:00.170 Uttam Kumaran: And then… and then Mustafa also has experience with Cloudflare.
13 00:01:01.430 ⇒ 00:01:02.490 Zoran Selinger: Okay, okay.
14 00:01:02.490 ⇒ 00:01:10.079 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we set up some Cloud First stuff internally, so… yeah, we can talk about it today, and then if you want me to book a little meeting with everyone, I can do that.
15 00:01:11.950 ⇒ 00:01:13.650 Zoran Selinger: We’re gonna have a…
16 00:01:14.050 ⇒ 00:01:24.640 Zoran Selinger: a conversation with Eden later on about the edge. I’m just… I just want to run a quick idea by someone before that.
17 00:01:25.230 ⇒ 00:01:27.690 Zoran Selinger: Okay, when, when is, when is that?
18 00:01:28.390 ⇒ 00:01:29.730 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, when is that meeting?
19 00:01:30.430 ⇒ 00:01:35.010 Zoran Selinger: So it’s 7.30 for me.
20 00:01:37.770 ⇒ 00:01:43.739 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, here, just send it. If it’s today, then what I would do is I would just start it in engineering, basically.
21 00:01:44.670 ⇒ 00:01:50.179 Henry Zhao: And it’s during the second half of the Delivery Excellence Weekly, so we’ll have to miss the second half of that.
22 00:01:50.180 ⇒ 00:01:54.350 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, cool. Just remind… Henry, just remind me at the beginning of that meeting.
23 00:01:54.740 ⇒ 00:01:58.320 Uttam Kumaran: And I’ll front-load anything about your clients. Okay, sounds good.
24 00:01:59.330 ⇒ 00:02:02.340 Zoran Selinger: I’ll write a message in the engineering channel on this.
25 00:02:02.680 ⇒ 00:02:07.569 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I just started this thread. Feel free to just throw everything in there and tag whoever.
26 00:02:11.560 ⇒ 00:02:12.300 Zoran Selinger: Thank you.
27 00:02:12.460 ⇒ 00:02:19.189 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Okay, cool, so let’s start with, let’s start with Eden first.
28 00:02:19.350 ⇒ 00:02:24.950 Uttam Kumaran: So, I think, yeah, tell me…
29 00:02:25.450 ⇒ 00:02:29.510 Uttam Kumaran: Where we’re at, guys, on… on, stuff that’s in progress.
30 00:02:31.020 ⇒ 00:02:32.820 Uttam Kumaran: So, we had…
31 00:02:32.820 ⇒ 00:02:36.790 Robert Tseng: Some of these, I think we talked about more recently, they’re just analysis from…
32 00:02:36.950 ⇒ 00:02:40.890 Uttam Kumaran: Henry, and these are due later, at the end of the week, so not a huge…
33 00:02:41.080 ⇒ 00:02:43.130 Uttam Kumaran: Concern about some of these?
34 00:02:48.380 ⇒ 00:02:50.570 Uttam Kumaran: Is this something I should take on?
35 00:02:51.110 ⇒ 00:02:54.400 Uttam Kumaran: Is Awash on here? Yeah, Awash, do you want me to take this one?
36 00:02:55.460 ⇒ 00:03:01.680 Awaish Kumar: Actually, I’m already… Booking, meeting, with…
37 00:03:02.100 ⇒ 00:03:11.149 Awaish Kumar: with UpFriend’s account manager, it’s just that Allison from Eden is the account owner of the upfronts, and she has to make decisions on,
38 00:03:11.530 ⇒ 00:03:14.170 Awaish Kumar: The, like, how they are going to pay for it.
39 00:03:14.810 ⇒ 00:03:16.110 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, okay.
40 00:03:18.480 ⇒ 00:03:20.320 Uttam Kumaran: Okay…
41 00:03:26.660 ⇒ 00:03:31.009 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so the outcome of this is, like, you’re basically just gonna, like… it’s sort of like.
42 00:03:31.010 ⇒ 00:03:31.610 Awaish Kumar: I mean.
43 00:03:31.610 ⇒ 00:03:34.399 Uttam Kumaran: Any vendor negotiation that we’ve done, you know?
44 00:03:36.510 ⇒ 00:03:44.109 Awaish Kumar: It’s… yeah, it’s like… we… I got the information I needed to build this, but I now…
45 00:03:44.520 ⇒ 00:03:51.099 Awaish Kumar: Aiden and they both have to figure out… find out ways to… for the payments and things, so I can get the pay.
46 00:03:54.980 ⇒ 00:03:58.519 Uttam Kumaran: So, it looks like Amber was on this thread. I.
47 00:04:06.630 ⇒ 00:04:07.550 Uttam Kumaran: Do you…
48 00:04:08.140 ⇒ 00:04:11.880 Awaish Kumar: I can put some more screenshots, I emailed afterwards.
49 00:04:15.470 ⇒ 00:04:21.060 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, do you wanna follow up on this? She’s not gonna be back until Wednesday, and I’m not gonna…
50 00:04:21.680 ⇒ 00:04:22.210 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
51 00:04:22.210 ⇒ 00:04:23.759 Awaish Kumar: Seems like you guys… Yeah, I’ll put that on.
52 00:04:24.460 ⇒ 00:04:24.900 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
53 00:04:25.150 ⇒ 00:04:29.730 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I just… I followed up, but I just tested the screenshots here.
54 00:04:29.950 ⇒ 00:04:30.640 Awaish Kumar: Politically.
55 00:04:30.640 ⇒ 00:04:31.150 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
56 00:04:31.500 ⇒ 00:04:33.490 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, yeah, just… okay.
57 00:04:33.630 ⇒ 00:04:36.089 Uttam Kumaran: Is this something this week we can get done?
58 00:04:37.640 ⇒ 00:04:42.930 Awaish Kumar: I can book… get… Get the meeting booked, and hopefully resonate.
59 00:04:44.090 ⇒ 00:04:44.720 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
60 00:04:53.520 ⇒ 00:04:54.980 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.
61 00:05:02.660 ⇒ 00:05:03.910 Uttam Kumaran: You sound sick, dude.
62 00:05:08.550 ⇒ 00:05:14.569 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. And then… we have the North Beam stuff today.
63 00:05:14.990 ⇒ 00:05:23.299 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so, I guess… when is this due, Zoran? And, like, I saw the thread.
64 00:05:24.180 ⇒ 00:05:26.129 Uttam Kumaran: You’re on mute, you’re on mute.
65 00:05:26.210 ⇒ 00:05:27.060 Awaish Kumar: I…
66 00:05:27.310 ⇒ 00:05:35.010 Awaish Kumar: I figured out that there is an API, which is pushing something to Northwind, and it looks like there are Reddit orders only.
67 00:05:35.270 ⇒ 00:05:35.970 Awaish Kumar: This is from.
68 00:05:35.970 ⇒ 00:05:38.070 Uttam Kumaran: Google, right? The Google BigQuery stuff?
69 00:05:39.060 ⇒ 00:05:41.020 Awaish Kumar: It’s in Google Cloud Run.
70 00:05:41.020 ⇒ 00:05:42.420 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
71 00:05:45.980 ⇒ 00:05:47.750 Uttam Kumaran: That’s the stuff that one guy, I forgot what it was.
72 00:05:47.750 ⇒ 00:05:49.339 Zoran Selinger: Big deadline there.
73 00:05:49.340 ⇒ 00:05:49.890 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
74 00:05:49.900 ⇒ 00:06:09.390 Zoran Selinger: It’s just something that we, kind of, figured. With Edge, we’re kind of missing, kind of skipping steps as well. We’re trying to get, how can we improve Norbeam with Edge, and not even having NORBIM implemented fully, correctly.
75 00:06:10.450 ⇒ 00:06:24.480 Zoran Selinger: So I… I communicated that message already, and kind of got, got, every… everyone on board. We just haven’t done the investigation fully, or… or where the orders API,
76 00:06:24.480 ⇒ 00:06:25.200 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
77 00:06:25.200 ⇒ 00:06:36.789 Zoran Selinger: are coming from. Basically, we just need to align what’s… what’s coming from GTM, from the pixel, and what’s coming from the API first.
78 00:06:37.460 ⇒ 00:06:50.980 Zoran Selinger: I see a lot of the orders have both implemented okay, when I was looking at the kind of data debugging there inside NordBIM, but we are still missing a lot as well.
79 00:06:50.980 ⇒ 00:06:53.730 Uttam Kumaran: So, if something is not fully working.
80 00:06:53.730 ⇒ 00:07:02.630 Zoran Selinger: So just… I just… we just need to do it. If Away sure say that this is only Reddit orders from the…
81 00:07:02.630 ⇒ 00:07:21.210 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, there’s a cloud… that’s what I sent, there’s… forgot what that guy’s name, but before he set up a bunch of these scripts in Cloud Run, that’s what I thought. I think it’s just that one Awash, but you can double check, or you can send… send, where the Cloud Run stuff is in here to… to Zoran, and then…
82 00:07:21.570 ⇒ 00:07:23.290 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s the only one.
83 00:07:23.660 ⇒ 00:07:24.290 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I…
84 00:07:24.290 ⇒ 00:07:25.830 Uttam Kumaran: We didn’t… okay.
85 00:07:25.830 ⇒ 00:07:26.639 Awaish Kumar: having to move.
86 00:07:26.840 ⇒ 00:07:28.070 Awaish Kumar: I would add it.
87 00:07:28.760 ⇒ 00:07:32.929 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, that’s definitely not everything, then. There’s more somewhere.
88 00:07:33.100 ⇒ 00:07:38.330 Uttam Kumaran: So you’re saying, you’re saying you want to run an edge function in Cloudflare to pipe these to Northbeam?
89 00:07:40.040 ⇒ 00:07:54.470 Zoran Selinger: Not at all. I’m saying… I’m saying we somehow need to… basically, for NORBIM to function, we… for every single order, we have to have the… an API call and the pixel firing.
90 00:07:54.630 ⇒ 00:07:57.359 Zoran Selinger: Yeah. For it to work 100% properly.
91 00:07:57.750 ⇒ 00:08:01.000 Zoran Selinger: We do not have that. We are missing
92 00:08:01.450 ⇒ 00:08:04.740 Zoran Selinger: API calls for some of the orders.
93 00:08:04.930 ⇒ 00:08:21.579 Zoran Selinger: And when only the pixel comes in, it’s essentially… it doesn’t work. So, it gets put into a pixel-only bucket, and it’s essentially not… it’s not reporting correctly then. So we need to fix that.
94 00:08:22.840 ⇒ 00:08:24.040 Awaish Kumar: Oh, so…
95 00:08:24.040 ⇒ 00:08:24.670 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
96 00:08:24.820 ⇒ 00:08:25.340 Uttam Kumaran: Got it.
97 00:08:25.340 ⇒ 00:08:28.949 Awaish Kumar: You mean we also need to send those orders through API?
98 00:08:30.280 ⇒ 00:08:35.709 Zoran Selinger: Every order for NordBeam has to be sent from both Pixel and API.
99 00:08:36.590 ⇒ 00:08:43.299 Zoran Selinger: And that was a clear, clear answer from… from NordBeam.
100 00:08:43.490 ⇒ 00:08:49.240 Zoran Selinger: So Chinaza, said that, via email thread.
101 00:08:51.530 ⇒ 00:08:56.259 Awaish Kumar: So, yeah, it’s clear that we are not sending everything through API calls.
102 00:08:56.370 ⇒ 00:08:58.650 Awaish Kumar: I can confirm that, because…
103 00:08:58.950 ⇒ 00:09:07.300 Awaish Kumar: That’s the only one script that’s sending, and it’s just… that’s for… just for an edit. We tried to push it through Polyatomic, but we paused it.
104 00:09:09.200 ⇒ 00:09:10.290 Awaish Kumar: That’s why.
105 00:09:10.780 ⇒ 00:09:12.650 Awaish Kumar: All the orders have not been synced.
106 00:09:13.130 ⇒ 00:09:13.870 Awaish Kumar: Twitter.
107 00:09:13.870 ⇒ 00:09:25.840 Zoran Selinger: So in that thread, yeah, you can see, you can see that these are just the sample from today. We have plenty that where server data is missing. It is possible that
108 00:09:25.980 ⇒ 00:09:32.760 Zoran Selinger: the server data is coming in with a differently formatted order ID, for example.
109 00:09:33.440 ⇒ 00:09:38.239 Zoran Selinger: or a user ID. So it’s not merging, that is possible.
110 00:09:38.400 ⇒ 00:09:43.789 Zoran Selinger: I just… we just… we really have to look… look at it. I just don’t know where to look.
111 00:09:43.790 ⇒ 00:09:59.669 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s do… Awash, let’s… Rico, let’s plan to do it sometime tomorrow on… on this. I think go ahead and start that threads around, on what you need from Cloudflare, and then Awash, if you can send anything on GCP, and then we can come up with a plan.
112 00:09:59.870 ⇒ 00:10:02.010 Uttam Kumaran: On… on what we need to do here.
113 00:10:03.960 ⇒ 00:10:04.800 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
114 00:10:05.480 ⇒ 00:10:10.229 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Okay, great. What else for Eden this week, guys?
115 00:10:10.560 ⇒ 00:10:15.350 Uttam Kumaran: So we have strategy deck stuff, it’s gonna be on… Friday.
116 00:10:15.680 ⇒ 00:10:20.329 Uttam Kumaran: So we can work towards that, especially once Amber is here, she can help presenting that.
117 00:10:20.540 ⇒ 00:10:22.449 Uttam Kumaran: Anything else?
118 00:10:23.400 ⇒ 00:10:25.990 Uttam Kumaran: for… Eden this week?
119 00:10:27.000 ⇒ 00:10:31.860 Awaish Kumar: they’re… There were a few tickets assigned to me, that were pushed.
120 00:10:32.460 ⇒ 00:10:34.110 Awaish Kumar: Maybe they’re in backlog.
121 00:10:34.980 ⇒ 00:10:36.639 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let me… let’s go check it out.
122 00:10:45.840 ⇒ 00:10:50.160 Uttam Kumaran: like, yeah, this one from… Yeah.
123 00:10:50.510 ⇒ 00:10:55.889 Awaish Kumar: And there’s one more… Yeah, this… yeah.
124 00:11:00.920 ⇒ 00:11:04.270 Uttam Kumaran: And this is the Dagster pipeline after we figure out.
125 00:11:05.160 ⇒ 00:11:08.070 Awaish Kumar: Yes, probably gonna get back, yes.
126 00:11:14.830 ⇒ 00:11:16.220 Uttam Kumaran: Okay…
127 00:11:24.270 ⇒ 00:11:30.430 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Anything else from… Backlog that needs to come in.
128 00:11:32.850 ⇒ 00:11:38.700 Zoran Selinger: So, for Eden, I would just, for this week, I would say, so, what happened last week?
129 00:11:38.920 ⇒ 00:11:49.580 Zoran Selinger: We… we kind of enabled it for everything, and the problem is we are triggering the… the edge… edge function for every page load.
130 00:11:49.970 ⇒ 00:11:50.360 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
131 00:11:50.360 ⇒ 00:11:58.130 Zoran Selinger: And this is a problem because, obviously, we do not… this is way too much. We don’t need it.
132 00:11:58.290 ⇒ 00:12:11.670 Zoran Selinger: But there is no direct way to filter it based on query parameters, because that’s the way to filter it. Our definition of where it needs to run comes from the query parameters, but you cannot do it
133 00:12:11.840 ⇒ 00:12:21.189 Zoran Selinger: So there are… transform rules in Cloudflare, where we can internally rewrite the URL structure
134 00:12:21.450 ⇒ 00:12:25.350 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah. And only trigger it based on that. So, I’m gonna…
135 00:12:25.460 ⇒ 00:12:31.170 Zoran Selinger: I’m gonna run that idea by… by Samuel, and you said Mustafa, right?
136 00:12:31.420 ⇒ 00:12:32.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
137 00:12:32.110 ⇒ 00:12:39.290 Zoran Selinger: today, and I’m gonna bring it up in a meeting that we have later today. Okay.
138 00:12:39.380 ⇒ 00:12:43.300 Zoran Selinger: But that’s… I would be happy with just getting that
139 00:12:43.390 ⇒ 00:12:57.369 Zoran Selinger: this week, on the edge, because, I mean, functionality-wise, we are there. Everything that we need is currently there. We just need a way to really filter it. If we do it.
140 00:12:57.370 ⇒ 00:13:05.550 Zoran Selinger: they can basically go back to the free account, right? Because we should be below 100K.
141 00:13:05.550 ⇒ 00:13:17.510 Zoran Selinger: instances during the month, because we all need it on the initial page, or where there are particular parameters, present.
142 00:13:17.510 ⇒ 00:13:17.970 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
143 00:13:17.970 ⇒ 00:13:18.790 Zoran Selinger: logic.
144 00:13:19.430 ⇒ 00:13:25.209 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. And then what else, Awash or Henry this week?
145 00:13:25.860 ⇒ 00:13:30.630 Uttam Kumaran: That we need to pull in. Or, I know, Demolado, you’re on, too. Anything else we need to pull in for Eden?
146 00:13:31.420 ⇒ 00:13:33.980 Uttam Kumaran: And then I’ll take a look at, like, what our point scope is.
147 00:13:36.410 ⇒ 00:13:45.699 Awaish Kumar: This refactor production summary, I think it’s a duplicate, a bit, like, it’s assigned to me and, Demulade both, so we can…
148 00:13:46.350 ⇒ 00:13:47.600 Awaish Kumar: Can’t see one off.
149 00:13:55.160 ⇒ 00:13:58.660 Awaish Kumar: And it can be included in the… Sprint.
150 00:13:59.980 ⇒ 00:14:00.360 Uttam Kumaran: Which one?
151 00:14:01.550 ⇒ 00:14:03.299 Awaish Kumar: The one that’s talking about it.
152 00:14:03.600 ⇒ 00:14:05.330 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, it’s in the sprint.
153 00:14:10.700 ⇒ 00:14:12.349 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
154 00:14:13.670 ⇒ 00:14:14.480 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
155 00:14:17.100 ⇒ 00:14:17.970 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
156 00:14:18.820 ⇒ 00:14:27.239 Uttam Kumaran: Anything else that needs to get brought in? Robert, I guess this is where I’ll…
157 00:14:27.840 ⇒ 00:14:33.570 Uttam Kumaran: ask you, what else is priority this week for Eden? From my side, on the contract side.
158 00:14:33.710 ⇒ 00:14:36.340 Uttam Kumaran: I know we were talking to them about…
159 00:14:36.530 ⇒ 00:14:41.899 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, we’re still talking about Remo, we’re talking about Zoron’s work stream.
160 00:14:42.120 ⇒ 00:14:44.669 Uttam Kumaran: Is that something you want to tackle this week?
161 00:14:49.170 ⇒ 00:14:51.340 Uttam Kumaran: You’re on mute if you’re talking.
162 00:14:57.630 ⇒ 00:14:59.239 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, maybe not.
163 00:14:59.420 ⇒ 00:15:02.030 Uttam Kumaran: I guess, Henry, is there anything else for this week?
164 00:15:02.030 ⇒ 00:15:02.419 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I’m.
165 00:15:02.420 ⇒ 00:15:02.740 Uttam Kumaran: husband.
166 00:15:02.740 ⇒ 00:15:09.599 Henry Zhao: Me needing to test segments, and then join that to the edge layer data.
167 00:15:10.480 ⇒ 00:15:12.780 Henry Zhao: I don’t know where it is, I’ll find it and edit.
168 00:15:17.760 ⇒ 00:15:18.890 Uttam Kumaran: This one.
169 00:15:20.420 ⇒ 00:15:22.250 Henry Zhao: Yeah. I don’t know where it went.
170 00:15:25.140 ⇒ 00:15:28.900 Uttam Kumaran: And is this by, like, a… is this by, like, midweek, or Friday?
171 00:15:29.460 ⇒ 00:15:30.210 Henry Zhao: By Friday, yeah.
172 00:15:30.210 ⇒ 00:15:31.540 Uttam Kumaran: today? Okay.
173 00:15:32.900 ⇒ 00:15:34.249 Uttam Kumaran: And what is this one?
174 00:15:35.520 ⇒ 00:15:42.200 Henry Zhao: I need to test the intake and make sure all of the events are firing in segment, and what they look like, and that they’re also going to MixedPanel.
175 00:15:42.640 ⇒ 00:15:47.030 Uttam Kumaran: And then, how do you run a… like, how do you… what is, like, how do you run that test? Like, what’s involved?
176 00:15:47.720 ⇒ 00:15:49.019 Henry Zhao: Browser extension.
177 00:15:50.130 ⇒ 00:15:51.419 Uttam Kumaran: What’s the extension?
178 00:15:52.010 ⇒ 00:15:53.590 Henry Zhao: The segment Pixel Helper.
179 00:15:54.990 ⇒ 00:15:55.849 Uttam Kumaran: No, it’s good.
180 00:15:55.850 ⇒ 00:16:01.439 Henry Zhao: And then I also have the mix panel pulled up side-by-side, just making sure that those are getting logged in live events.
181 00:16:04.440 ⇒ 00:16:08.110 Awaish Kumar: So this could probably be due today. Probably needs to be due today, honestly.
182 00:16:09.140 ⇒ 00:16:11.579 Awaish Kumar: Are you testing it for, like.
183 00:16:11.930 ⇒ 00:16:13.509 Henry Zhao: For the live…
184 00:16:13.510 ⇒ 00:16:15.249 Awaish Kumar: project, or the existing one?
185 00:16:16.210 ⇒ 00:16:21.249 Henry Zhao: For everything, for the… for the edge layer project, for attribution stitching, for the North Beam, for Mixpanel.
186 00:16:21.980 ⇒ 00:16:24.280 Henry Zhao: We need to make sure that the intake is properly captured.
187 00:16:28.120 ⇒ 00:16:30.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, can you say that one more time? So what are the scopes?
188 00:16:32.640 ⇒ 00:16:34.180 Henry Zhao: Scope as in, like, which projects that are.
189 00:16:34.180 ⇒ 00:16:35.750 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
190 00:16:36.630 ⇒ 00:16:39.669 Henry Zhao: Mixed panel reporting on the intake.
191 00:16:40.170 ⇒ 00:16:43.149 Henry Zhao: We want Ryan to start looking at the intake in Mixpanel.
192 00:16:43.620 ⇒ 00:16:46.090 Henry Zhao: And then North Beam, I guess, also.
193 00:16:47.810 ⇒ 00:16:50.269 Uttam Kumaran: And you have the Northbeam login to test that?
194 00:16:51.860 ⇒ 00:16:55.289 Henry Zhao: Well, this, I think, is dependent on the discussion we have about Northbeam later today.
195 00:16:55.700 ⇒ 00:16:57.550 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so just these two.
196 00:16:58.670 ⇒ 00:17:01.489 Henry Zhao: I would say North Beam and attribution. It’s, like, kind of the same thing.
197 00:17:02.600 ⇒ 00:17:03.449 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so that’s the same.
198 00:17:03.450 ⇒ 00:17:04.870 Henry Zhao: I think it goes to North Beam, yeah.
199 00:17:05.099 ⇒ 00:17:12.369 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and then, what is the output of here? You just send screenshots, so this is working?
200 00:17:13.740 ⇒ 00:17:15.780 Henry Zhao: Yeah, and if it’s not, we need to figure out why it’s not working.
201 00:17:18.390 ⇒ 00:17:21.829 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, if you can toss the screenshots here, that’s easy enough.
202 00:17:22.159 ⇒ 00:17:24.599 Henry Zhao: I can do screenshots, yeah. It’s a good idea.
203 00:17:25.460 ⇒ 00:17:26.690 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.
204 00:17:26.880 ⇒ 00:17:31.959 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that seems easy enough, and then we should have… so, I’m gonna put tomorrow, because I don’t know when we’re gonna get this…
205 00:17:32.350 ⇒ 00:17:35.949 Henry Zhao: I probably need to get it done today, because if there’s something wrong… yeah.
206 00:17:36.120 ⇒ 00:17:37.809 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, then yeah, then… okay.
207 00:17:38.070 ⇒ 00:17:40.000 Uttam Kumaran: Anything else?
208 00:17:40.960 ⇒ 00:17:50.850 Awaish Kumar: Two things can come up in the middle of the middle of the week, so we have data migration
209 00:17:51.420 ⇒ 00:17:58.660 Awaish Kumar: stream where Rion want us… want our help to migrate data from Basque to…
210 00:17:59.010 ⇒ 00:18:04.019 Awaish Kumar: Remo, but that depends on Remo’s demo tomorrow, if it…
211 00:18:04.190 ⇒ 00:18:09.660 Awaish Kumar: If it has the basic capabilities, we can plan for migration afterwards.
212 00:18:09.660 ⇒ 00:18:16.449 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah, talk to me about it tomorrow, or Wednesday, whenever you get, whenever you guys end up talking to him.
213 00:18:16.890 ⇒ 00:18:19.779 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, okay.
214 00:18:20.270 ⇒ 00:18:24.669 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, if nothing else, then I will…
215 00:18:25.150 ⇒ 00:18:32.730 Uttam Kumaran: just try to touch base with Robert today and just make sure. And then, so I guess talk to me, guys, about, like, typical schedule for Eden. Like, you guys meet…
216 00:18:33.180 ⇒ 00:18:38.620 Uttam Kumaran: Is there a meeting after this? Like, on the schedule, usually? And do you guys do planning on Mondays?
217 00:18:39.880 ⇒ 00:18:43.519 Awaish Kumar: We have a kickoff phone.
218 00:18:43.650 ⇒ 00:18:44.730 Awaish Kumar: It, it…
219 00:18:45.730 ⇒ 00:18:46.400 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
220 00:18:46.580 ⇒ 00:18:50.969 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so usually in London, the landscape would have to come in as well.
221 00:18:51.410 ⇒ 00:18:54.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay. So I’m not gonna join that. Are you guys good to, like…
222 00:18:55.090 ⇒ 00:18:58.779 Uttam Kumaran: handle that? Is Robert there with you? Yeah. Or what’s the… what’s he… okay.
223 00:18:58.780 ⇒ 00:19:03.940 Henry Zhao: Yeah, we should just give the update to the client also, and then they get to tell us what they are thinking also.
224 00:19:03.940 ⇒ 00:19:09.950 Uttam Kumaran: Do you guys have a feel… you guys feel pretty good about what we talked about today and, like, what the priorities are? Do you need me to write that out?
225 00:19:10.780 ⇒ 00:19:12.160 Awaish Kumar: I don’t think so.
226 00:19:12.160 ⇒ 00:19:13.919 Henry Zhao: You guys can speak up also.
227 00:19:16.020 ⇒ 00:19:33.590 Uttam Kumaran: If we’re good, then I’m just gonna… I’ll… we can ride it out pretty easily, so I’ll just send what we talked about in Slack into the client… to your internal channel, but in case you guys need it, you have it. And then, yeah, I mean, I think we’ll… I want to do a grooming session, like, on Wednesday,
228 00:19:33.900 ⇒ 00:19:36.279 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, let’s plan on that. I think…
229 00:19:36.960 ⇒ 00:19:40.560 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll just probably include the Colt crew there.
230 00:19:41.010 ⇒ 00:19:43.170 Uttam Kumaran: But, yeah, I think so tomorrow.
231 00:19:43.390 ⇒ 00:19:50.410 Uttam Kumaran: Or later today, we can figure out North Beam. The only other person, Zoran in case, same with Mustafa.
232 00:19:50.630 ⇒ 00:19:53.540 Uttam Kumaran: Don’t know, we can pull in surf.
233 00:19:53.760 ⇒ 00:19:58.489 Uttam Kumaran: He has a lot of, like, full-stack background as well, so… just, like.
234 00:19:59.410 ⇒ 00:20:16.979 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll just monitor the thread, and then keep… we’ll find a way through. Okay, cool, so that’s good for Eden. Let’s talk about other clients. So, for Ellie, I sent a note on Monday, Zoran, I’m gonna try to just book time with her
235 00:20:17.470 ⇒ 00:20:19.380 Uttam Kumaran: on Wednesday.
236 00:20:19.520 ⇒ 00:20:21.630 Uttam Kumaran: So…
237 00:20:21.630 ⇒ 00:20:22.310 Zoran Selinger: Okay.
238 00:20:23.770 ⇒ 00:20:24.350 Awaish Kumar: Someone did.
239 00:20:24.350 ⇒ 00:20:26.600 Zoran Selinger: I’m making progress today.
240 00:20:26.770 ⇒ 00:20:28.110 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, cool.
241 00:20:29.080 ⇒ 00:20:29.640 Uttam Kumaran: 17.
242 00:20:29.640 ⇒ 00:20:35.310 Zoran Selinger: We have a connection from Amplitude to our backend now.
243 00:20:37.010 ⇒ 00:20:38.520 Awaish Kumar: That’s done, right?
244 00:20:38.990 ⇒ 00:20:40.809 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, how much was this? This was one point?
245 00:20:41.320 ⇒ 00:20:42.000 Awaish Kumar: Yep.
246 00:20:44.700 ⇒ 00:20:46.300 Awaish Kumar: Like, 30 minutes.
247 00:20:48.040 ⇒ 00:20:50.970 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I’ll give you… we’ll give you the one-point credit.
248 00:20:51.610 ⇒ 00:20:56.400 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, how… Alright, this is all fine.
249 00:20:57.510 ⇒ 00:21:00.819 Uttam Kumaran: These are all gonna be this week, basically, right, Zoran?
250 00:21:02.780 ⇒ 00:21:07.680 Zoran Selinger: Subscriber… Configure a personal queue for…
251 00:21:09.180 ⇒ 00:21:14.520 Zoran Selinger: Oh, so the last one, I don’t know why I missed that. So that’s already done.
252 00:21:16.500 ⇒ 00:21:19.069 Uttam Kumaran: What was, like… oh, so it was still 4 points, you think?
253 00:21:19.680 ⇒ 00:21:20.370 Awaish Kumar: Right.
254 00:21:20.990 ⇒ 00:21:31.759 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah, but that’s… I’ve done that. I’ve done that. Let me see, so I still have… I still have, to configure fully the…
255 00:21:32.780 ⇒ 00:21:39.120 Zoran Selinger: The controller and the worker, get… Where is the controller?
256 00:21:40.550 ⇒ 00:21:44.779 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, okay. Is that in progress? Yes, yes, okay, yes, that’s in progress at the moment.
257 00:21:45.220 ⇒ 00:21:47.050 Zoran Selinger: That’s correct. Okay. Yeah.
258 00:21:48.990 ⇒ 00:21:51.370 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. And then I’m gonna get us that meeting…
259 00:21:52.080 ⇒ 00:22:09.280 Uttam Kumaran: These are all done. Okay, great. And then for HIP, yeah, I mean, Awash, me and you will just move stuff forward. I think probably some of these, me and you can just do on a call. So, Rico, can we also book time for me and Awash to do, like, Kerrigan Nourish?
260 00:22:10.160 ⇒ 00:22:10.510 Awaish Kumar: I…
261 00:22:11.160 ⇒ 00:22:12.309 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, go ahead.
262 00:22:14.230 ⇒ 00:22:17.989 Awaish Kumar: No, no, I just saw Robert’s message, reminding us that it’s hype.
263 00:22:18.610 ⇒ 00:22:36.769 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, hype, sorry, sorry, sorry. Hype. I said hype, actually, I said hype earlier today the right way, but okay, thanks. Okay, so yeah, if we can book on, like, we can just do what we need for these vendor spikes. So there’s a spike for Caragon, spike for Nourish.
264 00:22:37.510 ⇒ 00:22:40.189 Awaish Kumar: I added… I added top 2 tickets.
265 00:22:40.710 ⇒ 00:22:42.710 Awaish Kumar: To work on diagramming.
266 00:22:43.410 ⇒ 00:22:47.579 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so for all of these, I want to do Thursday.
267 00:22:47.720 ⇒ 00:22:49.569 Uttam Kumaran: Like, as due date.
268 00:22:50.020 ⇒ 00:22:55.149 Uttam Kumaran: I will have more time tomorrow to… to do a bunch of these.
269 00:22:55.260 ⇒ 00:22:59.980 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I really want to extend the diagram.
270 00:23:00.270 ⇒ 00:23:05.349 Uttam Kumaran: And, I want to… we have to look into the Zoom and all this other shit, so…
271 00:23:05.460 ⇒ 00:23:10.890 Uttam Kumaran: Well, look into that, and then I’m gonna send a log today of, like.
272 00:23:11.340 ⇒ 00:23:13.079 Uttam Kumaran: Everything that we’re planning on doing.
273 00:23:16.250 ⇒ 00:23:24.650 Uttam Kumaran: I’m still, like, not sure about, like, ultimate timelines for them, but roughly, like, I’m gonna see that we move 3 to 5 action items
274 00:23:24.860 ⇒ 00:23:25.920 Uttam Kumaran: per week.
275 00:23:26.210 ⇒ 00:23:37.850 Uttam Kumaran: Over the line. And then every week, I want us to do another review of the diagram. I think that diagram is just gonna become, like, our source of truth for everything. The meeting last week was really, really fruitful, so…
276 00:23:38.140 ⇒ 00:23:39.490 Uttam Kumaran: I feel pretty good.
277 00:23:39.650 ⇒ 00:23:44.529 Uttam Kumaran: I guess, awaits, the biggest thing I just want to make sure, since you’re…
278 00:23:44.700 ⇒ 00:23:55.539 Uttam Kumaran: you have stuff on multiple clients, is that you have time to do this, so again, I want to make sure that we just aim for Thursdays here, and then as we finish stuff up during the week, it’s fine.
279 00:23:56.000 ⇒ 00:23:57.350 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
280 00:23:57.420 ⇒ 00:24:04.430 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, Robert, talk to me about, read me… Stuff.
281 00:24:04.810 ⇒ 00:24:22.360 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so, I mean, I kind of ran with it as much as I could. We had a couple, like, silly blockers, but I think, it seems like they gave us access, so I think I’m gonna make one more push today. We basically have set up a weekly call with them, so, I’m not gonna look at it until the afternoon, but, yeah, I think…
282 00:24:22.960 ⇒ 00:24:30.840 Robert Tseng: they… yeah, I mean, it’s just doing analysis readouts, it feels similar to insomnia.
283 00:24:31.060 ⇒ 00:24:32.510 Uttam Kumaran: Can you add me to that?
284 00:24:32.890 ⇒ 00:24:33.959 Robert Tseng: Did they recall?
285 00:24:34.290 ⇒ 00:24:35.570 Uttam Kumaran: Don’t… yeah, tomorrow?
286 00:24:35.570 ⇒ 00:24:36.240 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
287 00:24:37.400 ⇒ 00:24:41.810 Henry Zhao: And, Robert, the access you were talking about is the MongoDB access?
288 00:24:42.180 ⇒ 00:24:55.640 Robert Tseng: Yeah, they… I just couldn’t actually, like… yeah, they gave us… the access was too limited. I couldn’t actually look at what I wanted to see in Mongo, but I’m hoping that I can now. I haven’t actually clicked into it yet.
289 00:24:55.640 ⇒ 00:24:59.099 Henry Zhao: Okay, sorry, I thought you were working on the MongoDB, so I didn’t… I didn’t look into that.
290 00:24:59.450 ⇒ 00:25:02.519 Robert Tseng: No, no, all good. I… yeah, it’s fine.
291 00:25:02.660 ⇒ 00:25:03.220 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
292 00:25:03.220 ⇒ 00:25:08.199 Uttam Kumaran: So, action items for this week will come out of that meeting tomorrow. Is there anything else in advance of that we can do?
293 00:25:14.460 ⇒ 00:25:17.069 Uttam Kumaran: I… I mean, I was… I wanted to basically…
294 00:25:17.880 ⇒ 00:25:20.740 Uttam Kumaran: plan… do some planning today, so I can prepare.
295 00:25:20.740 ⇒ 00:25:21.160 Robert Tseng: Oh, yeah.
296 00:25:21.160 ⇒ 00:25:22.180 Uttam Kumaran: Apple things.
297 00:25:23.720 ⇒ 00:25:26.540 Robert Tseng: Okay, what could we do?
298 00:25:27.050 ⇒ 00:25:36.639 Robert Tseng: Well, really, I just… I mean, this is a pretty lightweight client, like, I do kind of just, you know, as long as Henry feels like he can ramp up and can take over on the next…
299 00:25:36.640 ⇒ 00:25:39.450 Uttam Kumaran: the next iteration, that’s… that’s what I care about.
300 00:25:39.450 ⇒ 00:25:44.340 Robert Tseng: Okay. Because I literally only… I’ve locked off, like, a couple hours on Fridays.
301 00:25:44.340 ⇒ 00:25:44.950 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
302 00:25:44.950 ⇒ 00:25:49.749 Robert Tseng: So, like, I… I mean, that’s what I’m gonna do if it ends up falling back onto… on me.
303 00:25:49.750 ⇒ 00:25:53.689 Uttam Kumaran: So, so tomorrow we’ll get the requirements for this week.
304 00:25:53.690 ⇒ 00:25:55.000 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
305 00:25:55.240 ⇒ 00:25:58.200 Uttam Kumaran: And then on that meeting, do you want Henry to be there?
306 00:25:59.030 ⇒ 00:26:01.579 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think he should be there.
307 00:26:02.600 ⇒ 00:26:11.250 Robert Tseng: Yeah, if he’s gonna end up taking it over, like, he should build… he should, you know, get familiar, kind of, how they operate, and yeah.
308 00:26:11.250 ⇒ 00:26:12.060 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.
309 00:26:12.610 ⇒ 00:26:13.689 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, then, yeah, we’ll…
310 00:26:13.690 ⇒ 00:26:20.210 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I’m just gonna go one-on-one with us, Robert, just to align on communication for, hype. Not hype.
311 00:26:20.830 ⇒ 00:26:31.289 Uttam Kumaran: Can we… yeah, can you, like, if… include me in any of those things, because I’m going to be the one driving. So, I… I would suggest we either… we do that… can we do that later today?
312 00:26:31.720 ⇒ 00:26:33.810 Henry Zhao: Yeah, your workers are crazy, though.
313 00:26:34.400 ⇒ 00:26:41.550 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I blocked off after 3.30 for anything like this stuff, so… Just throw some…
314 00:26:41.550 ⇒ 00:26:44.530 Henry Zhao: You have GTM planning, you have marketing planning, hype planning.
315 00:26:44.580 ⇒ 00:26:49.780 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I’m not gonna be able to do it until… Basically, after 3 PM Central.
316 00:26:49.960 ⇒ 00:26:52.899 Uttam Kumaran: Any time after 3 PM Central, I’m… I’m yours.
317 00:26:53.190 ⇒ 00:26:55.319 Henry Zhao: So the no meeting block can be booked?
318 00:26:56.570 ⇒ 00:27:02.470 Uttam Kumaran: Those are blocks for this type of meeting. For, like, I’ve blocked 4 planning meetings, so…
319 00:27:02.470 ⇒ 00:27:04.929 Henry Zhao: Robert, is 7PM Eastern too late for you?
320 00:27:05.680 ⇒ 00:27:09.569 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I can’t do that. Okay. Not today, unfortunately.
321 00:27:11.840 ⇒ 00:27:14.220 Uttam Kumaran: Why don’t we do 3.30?
322 00:27:16.630 ⇒ 00:27:18.240 Henry Zhao: The hype planning session that you have?
323 00:27:18.970 ⇒ 00:27:22.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, hype is just me, it’s gonna be just me, so you can just put it there, yeah.
324 00:27:22.640 ⇒ 00:27:23.040 Henry Zhao: Okay.
325 00:27:23.040 ⇒ 00:27:24.020 Robert Tseng: Okay, sure.
326 00:27:26.330 ⇒ 00:27:27.220 Henry Zhao: Okay, cool.
327 00:27:28.070 ⇒ 00:27:31.329 Uttam Kumaran: If it doesn’t work today, we could just do tomorrow morning, by the way, so…
328 00:27:31.330 ⇒ 00:27:34.119 Henry Zhao: Tomorrow morning’s the same, same session.
329 00:27:34.590 ⇒ 00:27:35.730 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay.
330 00:27:36.370 ⇒ 00:27:41.289 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. So, feel good about these. I guess, Robert, anything else on Eden?
331 00:27:43.360 ⇒ 00:27:50.240 Uttam Kumaran: or Ellie, like, Ellie, we… I feel Zoran and I are pretty in line with what we need, and I’m gonna get stuff to Allison this week.
332 00:27:50.620 ⇒ 00:28:00.789 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, this is more, like, fire-level stuff, but, I think coming out of… so… Surf’s call… I mean, this is more Remo-related, so I don’t want to get too distracted.
333 00:28:00.790 ⇒ 00:28:04.569 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, that’s what I… yeah, I need to know the Remo stuff, too.
334 00:28:04.980 ⇒ 00:28:16.260 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so on the Remo side, I mean, Surf talked to ELT on Friday. I don’t exactly know what his takeaways were, but, I mean, it seems like they got on Remo’s case, and they’re kind of getting stuff over there.
335 00:28:16.260 ⇒ 00:28:20.460 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, that guy’s completely lying, bro. That guy’s, like, completely lying.
336 00:28:20.460 ⇒ 00:28:33.740 Robert Tseng: He’s just… I mean, he’s just having to say something because, DLC probably, like, got on his case after a search call. So hopefully, like, I mean, he basically communicated that there’s a delay on our side.
337 00:28:33.980 ⇒ 00:28:46.259 Robert Tseng: like, in terms of timeline, it’s not going to take 2 months, like, whatever, like, he kind of shared those trade-offs with them. So, I think that… that was… that was kind of the purpose of that call. On the Eden side, yeah, we have this stuff coming up,
338 00:28:47.330 ⇒ 00:28:52.440 Robert Tseng: like, on the marketing, I think we’re… I’m just…
339 00:28:53.100 ⇒ 00:28:55.650 Robert Tseng: A couple things I want to call out. Actually, like.
340 00:28:56.470 ⇒ 00:29:16.299 Robert Tseng: there might be an opportunity, I just want to just put that out, like, Henry to actually go to their pharmacy in, in Albuquerque. So, like, maybe in the next 2 or 3 weeks, we might, I don’t know, I guess, Henry, we can talk about whether or not that’s feasible for you, but I was thinking to send Henry to their pharmacy, because
341 00:29:16.400 ⇒ 00:29:26.580 Robert Tseng: The marketing stuff is gonna end up… it’s always gonna… it’s an always-on kind of, like, work stream, but we’re… we have some work that needs to pick up on the operational side as well, too, so…
342 00:29:26.770 ⇒ 00:29:32.139 Robert Tseng: I think that’s… that’s probably a shift in priorities kind of coming up in the next couple weeks.
343 00:29:32.630 ⇒ 00:29:33.980 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so…
344 00:29:33.980 ⇒ 00:29:34.580 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, great.
345 00:29:34.580 ⇒ 00:29:46.840 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think because they have their pharmacy, it’s kind of ramping up and everything, and yeah, so I think there’s kind of a… a shift in focus of not just only being only marketing’s focus right now.
346 00:29:47.630 ⇒ 00:29:48.250 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
347 00:29:49.390 ⇒ 00:29:55.580 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, otherwise, there’s, like, a bunch of different marketing sort of threads that I can, like, summarize for you, but nothing seems like…
348 00:29:55.990 ⇒ 00:30:05.559 Uttam Kumaran: The only big fires, I think OASI’s looking at some… some data issues, and then we’re gonna… once Amber gets back, we’ll have the deck ready for you by Friday to review.
349 00:30:06.010 ⇒ 00:30:06.740 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
350 00:30:07.280 ⇒ 00:30:10.199 Robert Tseng: I think our team kind of reacts
351 00:30:10.890 ⇒ 00:30:16.539 Robert Tseng: I mean, we talked about this last week with the whole, like, taking down the side for 5 minutes kind of thing,
352 00:30:16.680 ⇒ 00:30:19.189 Robert Tseng: But, yeah, I think, you know.
353 00:30:19.650 ⇒ 00:30:27.879 Robert Tseng: we… we let them kind of push our scope around too much, making too many adjustments. I think when we say we’re gonna do something, like, we just have to…
354 00:30:28.330 ⇒ 00:30:28.850 Robert Tseng: Close it out.
355 00:30:28.990 ⇒ 00:30:31.560 Robert Tseng: A bit more, and just close out what we have.
356 00:30:31.670 ⇒ 00:30:50.370 Robert Tseng: I don’t think ELT cares for us to, like, go and actually do everything marketing wants. Like, I think we… I feel like we’re not, like, I think when I was running this more, I was saying no to a lot more for marketing, but I guess they love working with Henry and Zoron, because they just, like, they do everything that they ask them to do, so…
357 00:30:50.370 ⇒ 00:30:56.040 Uttam Kumaran: Well, that’s why I guess I just need some… I just need some type of principle, and this is something I can work with Amber on.
358 00:30:56.040 ⇒ 00:30:56.420 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
359 00:30:56.420 ⇒ 00:31:01.989 Uttam Kumaran: Because she’ll be playing the defense, but we just need some, like, principles on, like, what we say yes to, or what we escalate.
360 00:31:02.320 ⇒ 00:31:12.309 Uttam Kumaran: There’s a flat… I would say flat no puts us, like, we’re making the decision more on, like, I would rather say, like, hey, we… this needs to get escalated, and then I can give you
361 00:31:12.650 ⇒ 00:31:17.220 Uttam Kumaran: The decisions to make during your monthly… your bi-weekly deck review, right?
362 00:31:17.480 ⇒ 00:31:17.910 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
363 00:31:17.910 ⇒ 00:31:21.270 Uttam Kumaran: Is that, like, a good process? Like, I can just track the stuff where I’m like.
364 00:31:21.610 ⇒ 00:31:28.279 Uttam Kumaran: you need to make a decision, and I’ll create a laundry list, and then you can just present that in your deck review to get answers.
365 00:31:28.650 ⇒ 00:31:32.589 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think that would help, to know what decision I need to make on, yeah.
366 00:31:32.590 ⇒ 00:31:39.259 Uttam Kumaran: And that way you have 2 weeks, so I can say, hey, we can only present escalations every 2 weeks, and then that’s what we’ll do. Okay.
367 00:31:39.260 ⇒ 00:31:49.449 Robert Tseng: Yeah, any, like, tooling changes, like, big process changes, like, it’s not something we should react to right away, like, we should kind of go through more of a formal review process, and then, like, escalate it, yeah.
368 00:31:49.810 ⇒ 00:31:56.829 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, great. And then, for this meeting, so Fridays… Is Friday, like…
369 00:31:57.030 ⇒ 00:32:02.059 Uttam Kumaran: Should we aim to have this ready by Thursday, and then Friday’s sort of, like, back and forth?
370 00:32:04.380 ⇒ 00:32:12.769 Robert Tseng: I think Friday’s fine, just because I have to review a bunch of other stuff on Thursday already, so I’d rather just do the Eden reviews on Friday, because we do a retro and everything that day.
371 00:32:13.230 ⇒ 00:32:15.170 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so as part of the Eden…
372 00:32:15.400 ⇒ 00:32:18.349 Uttam Kumaran: Sprint reviews, we review the deck.
373 00:32:18.350 ⇒ 00:32:19.020 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
374 00:32:19.570 ⇒ 00:32:20.160 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
375 00:32:20.330 ⇒ 00:32:26.040 Uttam Kumaran: So, I will… Henry, can you add me to the Eden Friday?
376 00:32:26.810 ⇒ 00:32:28.050 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I already added you.
377 00:32:29.420 ⇒ 00:32:31.299 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t see it, or I may have…
378 00:32:31.410 ⇒ 00:32:37.289 Uttam Kumaran: I may have said no. Like, if… just tell me if I’m on there and no, I’ll look through, because I…
379 00:32:37.520 ⇒ 00:32:48.159 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay. Okay, perfect, so that’s good. Okay. Yeah, we’re coming up on the end of time, so anything else, please Slack me, I feel pretty good about this.
380 00:32:49.970 ⇒ 00:32:57.019 Uttam Kumaran: then yeah, I guess we should have another check-in sort of Wednesday for several action items, so just please follow up on your tickets, or…
381 00:32:57.130 ⇒ 00:32:59.150 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll send you a note, so… okay.
382 00:32:59.550 ⇒ 00:33:01.589 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, thank you guys, appreciate it.
383 00:33:03.220 ⇒ 00:33:04.410 Demilade Agboola: Gotcha, bye.
384 00:33:04.840 ⇒ 00:33:05.560 Uttam Kumaran: Bye.