Meeting Title: Eden | Standup Date: 2025-10-07 Meeting participants: Robert Tseng, Amber Lin, Zoran Selinger, Demilade Agboola, Henry Zhao, Awaish Kumar
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1 00:00:42.860 ⇒ 00:00:44.170 Amber Lin: Hi.
2 00:00:45.900 ⇒ 00:00:46.840 Robert Tseng: Hey, Amber.
3 00:00:48.470 ⇒ 00:00:50.020 Robert Tseng: Are you heading out tomorrow?
4 00:00:50.610 ⇒ 00:00:52.450 Amber Lin: Yes.
5 00:00:53.190 ⇒ 00:01:01.010 Amber Lin: So, and because Monday’s a holiday, I’m actually coming back After Wednesday.
6 00:01:02.800 ⇒ 00:01:04.969 Robert Tseng: So, Wednesday to Wednesday, something like that, right?
7 00:01:04.989 ⇒ 00:01:06.400 Amber Lin: Yes. Yes.
8 00:01:06.400 ⇒ 00:01:07.260 Robert Tseng: Okay.
9 00:01:08.040 ⇒ 00:01:10.110 Robert Tseng: And…
10 00:01:10.420 ⇒ 00:01:15.790 Robert Tseng: You got a chance to talk with Utom on Friday? I don’t know if you still wanted to chat before you leave.
11 00:01:16.150 ⇒ 00:01:18.950 Amber Lin: I’m talking to him today, so I think…
12 00:01:19.140 ⇒ 00:01:21.600 Amber Lin: I think it should be fun. There’s not…
13 00:01:22.320 ⇒ 00:01:26.850 Amber Lin: two big of items I want to chat about.
14 00:01:27.730 ⇒ 00:01:39.340 Robert Tseng: I’m sure… I don’t know if you saw the E-Verify message from RICO, but basically government shutdown impacted that, so that might get… that might be slowing down a little bit until the shutdown is over.
15 00:01:40.550 ⇒ 00:01:41.930 Amber Lin: We wish.
16 00:01:42.360 ⇒ 00:01:49.879 Robert Tseng: like, the U.S. federal government has shut down, so, like, all of their services are just, like, not working.
17 00:01:50.530 ⇒ 00:01:51.760 Amber Lin: Wow.
18 00:01:52.060 ⇒ 00:01:52.710 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
19 00:01:54.150 ⇒ 00:02:00.369 Amber Lin: Yeah, I… I hope… I mean, as long as the E-Verify goes through, and then we still have
20 00:02:01.030 ⇒ 00:02:02.610 Amber Lin: Like, a month.
21 00:02:04.370 ⇒ 00:02:14.220 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think, I mean, I don’t think the shutdown will be for that long, but in recent memory, it did shut down for, like, 30 or 40 days before. So,
22 00:02:14.650 ⇒ 00:02:18.120 Robert Tseng: Yeah, well, I don’t know, but I just… I hope it doesn’t take that long.
23 00:02:19.740 ⇒ 00:02:22.859 Amber Lin: Oh, I hope so too, I ju- I just searched it up.
24 00:02:23.900 ⇒ 00:02:29.539 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so just kind of keep tabs on that. But, anyway, I’ll let him kind of handle the rest of the…
25 00:02:29.540 ⇒ 00:02:30.250 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay.
26 00:02:30.250 ⇒ 00:02:31.710 Robert Tseng: Updates, that would be.
27 00:02:32.310 ⇒ 00:02:33.229 Amber Lin: Hi, team!
28 00:02:34.100 ⇒ 00:02:46.259 Amber Lin: I invited Zoran here, so we can grab a quick update, but I think we’ll get the update from Zoran first, and then I know, Zoran, you get busy, so that you can hop later.
29 00:02:46.260 ⇒ 00:02:48.460 Henry Zhao: Welcome, Zaran.
30 00:02:50.250 ⇒ 00:02:51.390 Zoran Selinger: Cute, thank you.
31 00:02:52.580 ⇒ 00:02:54.370 Amber Lin: Let’s see…
32 00:02:54.970 ⇒ 00:03:01.390 Amber Lin: Can you give us an update on the work you’ve been doing? I don’t think we’ve updated these tickets, and I don’t think it…
33 00:03:01.720 ⇒ 00:03:05.010 Amber Lin: Correctly captures what you’re working on.
34 00:03:05.700 ⇒ 00:03:07.060 Zoran Selinger: Sure, sure.
35 00:03:08.450 ⇒ 00:03:14.649 Zoran Selinger: So currently, for the edge layer, we basically…
36 00:03:14.860 ⇒ 00:03:17.999 Zoran Selinger: We are collecting data on the first version.
37 00:03:18.420 ⇒ 00:03:25.180 Zoran Selinger: So this is currently only enabled for… for one, product group.
38 00:03:26.860 ⇒ 00:03:32.330 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so basically, Henry,
39 00:03:32.490 ⇒ 00:03:36.280 Zoran Selinger: I’m kind of waiting for your feedback on… on…
40 00:03:36.710 ⇒ 00:03:41.039 Zoran Selinger: What… what do you think of… what do you think of the data, and if you have…
41 00:03:41.750 ⇒ 00:03:47.620 Zoran Selinger: you know, feature requests, anything like that. If… if not, then.
42 00:03:47.620 ⇒ 00:03:51.050 Henry Zhao: No, let’s… we have… we have very little… yeah.
43 00:03:51.880 ⇒ 00:03:53.289 Awaish Kumar: Sorry.
44 00:03:53.290 ⇒ 00:03:54.490 Amber Lin: What did you say?
45 00:03:58.730 ⇒ 00:04:00.819 Zoran Selinger: You’re getting cut off, I think, Henry.
46 00:04:01.000 ⇒ 00:04:04.260 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think his internet’s a bit spotty. He’ll probably pop in and out.
47 00:04:04.260 ⇒ 00:04:05.070 Henry Zhao: Sorry to interrupt, go ahead.
48 00:04:08.210 ⇒ 00:04:17.710 Zoran Selinger: So, if you’re saying that you’re not getting enough data, that we have very little data, then we should probably,
49 00:04:18.230 ⇒ 00:04:24.539 Zoran Selinger: Ask them to expand this to more pages, maybe all pages.
50 00:04:25.260 ⇒ 00:04:27.819 Zoran Selinger: So, maybe let’s, let’s do that next.
51 00:04:29.120 ⇒ 00:04:36.879 Zoran Selinger: I’ll need Tegan from their team, so we can make, routing rules, and simply, yeah, apply to more pages.
52 00:04:38.580 ⇒ 00:04:54.870 Zoran Selinger: I think it’s clear that, for example, this edge layer is not interrupting any page loads or slowing it down. We don’t see any comments there or anything in the logs that would suggest that, so it is safe to apply to more pages.
53 00:04:59.370 ⇒ 00:05:01.689 Zoran Selinger: Let me just talk about it.
54 00:05:04.020 ⇒ 00:05:08.160 Amber Lin: And we are speaking to Tigran about that, or who are we speaking to?
55 00:05:08.160 ⇒ 00:05:21.329 Zoran Selinger: Tigran is the one with access to Cloudflare, but he’s not the one to make that decision, so it’s a more… I probably cut her…
56 00:05:21.520 ⇒ 00:05:25.210 Zoran Selinger: We’ll make the decision on… Where?
57 00:05:28.410 ⇒ 00:05:29.690 Amber Lin: Gotcha, okay.
58 00:05:29.690 ⇒ 00:05:33.039 Zoran Selinger: I can, I can, ask that question today.
59 00:05:33.380 ⇒ 00:05:34.570 Amber Lin: Okay.
60 00:05:34.960 ⇒ 00:05:36.060 Amber Lin: Sounds good.
61 00:05:36.630 ⇒ 00:05:41.980 Amber Lin: Okay, I put the one page in review.
62 00:05:42.330 ⇒ 00:05:49.570 Amber Lin: Yeah, let’s go through this one. What… Is this done?
63 00:05:59.270 ⇒ 00:06:04.460 Henry Zhao: Yeah, Zoran, we have a meeting today, right? I just want to ask you about the hashed IP.
64 00:06:05.020 ⇒ 00:06:06.289 Zoran Selinger: Okay, okay.
65 00:06:06.290 ⇒ 00:06:07.689 Henry Zhao: We’ll talk about it at our meeting.
66 00:06:07.860 ⇒ 00:06:08.380 Amber Lin: Okay.
67 00:06:08.380 ⇒ 00:06:09.300 Zoran Selinger: Cool.
68 00:06:09.420 ⇒ 00:06:13.790 Amber Lin: Is that… what does that mean for this ticket? Are we gonna discuss it?
69 00:06:15.050 ⇒ 00:06:16.180 Henry Zhao: You’re in progress.
70 00:06:16.640 ⇒ 00:06:17.250 Amber Lin: Okay.
71 00:06:19.170 ⇒ 00:06:21.030 Amber Lin: Is this one point?
72 00:06:29.020 ⇒ 00:06:31.170 Amber Lin: Is this ticket gonna be an hour?
73 00:06:32.210 ⇒ 00:06:40.340 Zoran Selinger: It’s probably gonna take more, but it’s… I’m not sure. We can… we can edit that on the meeting later, in the meeting later.
74 00:06:40.340 ⇒ 00:06:41.120 Amber Lin: Awesome.
75 00:06:41.400 ⇒ 00:06:48.460 Amber Lin: And then… This one…
76 00:06:49.610 ⇒ 00:06:57.490 Amber Lin: Do we have a chance to check her UTMs? I think they just created it later last week.
77 00:07:00.400 ⇒ 00:07:01.090 Zoran Selinger: Oh.
78 00:07:01.240 ⇒ 00:07:04.120 Zoran Selinger: Oh, is that assigned to me?
79 00:07:04.490 ⇒ 00:07:08.590 Amber Lin: Yes, unless Henry is able to do it…
80 00:07:11.890 ⇒ 00:07:14.759 Henry Zhao: I’m not sure what exactly we’re supposed to do on this. Can you click that?
81 00:07:14.760 ⇒ 00:07:18.850 Amber Lin: It’s the dashboard that we wanted to do for Christina.
82 00:07:19.430 ⇒ 00:07:21.510 Amber Lin: Or that she requested, and then…
83 00:07:21.510 ⇒ 00:07:22.190 Henry Zhao: Yeah, the run…
84 00:07:22.190 ⇒ 00:07:23.630 Amber Lin: thread here.
85 00:07:23.630 ⇒ 00:07:28.759 Henry Zhao: Zoran, I think we were just gonna check that the landing page redirects correctly, with the UTMs being tracked.
86 00:07:31.720 ⇒ 00:07:33.940 Henry Zhao: Did you set up time with Stuart?
87 00:07:37.810 ⇒ 00:07:40.309 Zoran Selinger: So you got cut off again? I don’t know.
88 00:07:40.310 ⇒ 00:07:42.460 Amber Lin: I can, I can hear Henry.
89 00:07:43.030 ⇒ 00:07:47.780 Amber Lin: I think this is… did you end up setting up time with Stuart?
90 00:07:47.780 ⇒ 00:07:52.910 Zoran Selinger: talked, but we didn’t talk about, about Christina’s UTMs at all.
91 00:07:53.720 ⇒ 00:07:54.250 Henry Zhao: Oh, okay.
92 00:07:54.250 ⇒ 00:07:55.289 Zoran Selinger: Talked about other things.
93 00:07:55.290 ⇒ 00:08:00.089 Henry Zhao: But our Christinas, you can set up?
94 00:08:03.420 ⇒ 00:08:04.490 Henry Zhao: Can you guys hear me?
95 00:08:04.490 ⇒ 00:08:08.869 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think so. This is what… this is the thread, and they said it’s…
96 00:08:11.320 ⇒ 00:08:13.890 Henry Zhao: My internet’s working fine, so I don’t know what’s going on.
97 00:08:16.640 ⇒ 00:08:18.980 Robert Tseng: I can hear you fine, you’re good.
98 00:08:20.280 ⇒ 00:08:21.650 Zoran Selinger: So yeah, I think,
99 00:08:22.360 ⇒ 00:08:30.500 Zoran Selinger: do we have… so that, that tracking, template that you guys made for… for Eden, they… are they… are…
100 00:08:30.900 ⇒ 00:08:33.010 Zoran Selinger: Are there rules for referrals?
101 00:08:34.880 ⇒ 00:08:39.499 Zoran Selinger: In that document, I think Christina just needs to follow that, right?
102 00:08:39.500 ⇒ 00:08:45.510 Henry Zhao: Yeah, we just want to make sure that the landing page, like the slash PC, correctly logs the UTMs.
103 00:08:46.900 ⇒ 00:08:52.279 Zoran Selinger: When you say correctly logs, the UTMs, you mean using the edge, or any… or…
104 00:08:52.280 ⇒ 00:08:52.740 Henry Zhao: the edge.
105 00:08:52.740 ⇒ 00:08:53.260 Zoran Selinger: Welcome.
106 00:08:53.760 ⇒ 00:08:56.360 Henry Zhao: Or at least have the refer as slash PC.
107 00:08:57.950 ⇒ 00:09:05.280 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, I mean, if she’s not using one of the pages that we enabled for the Edge, we won’t see that in there.
108 00:09:06.180 ⇒ 00:09:11.590 Zoran Selinger: So, only after we enabled Edge for more pages will… we can see that.
109 00:09:12.180 ⇒ 00:09:17.540 Henry Zhao: Okay. So then, yeah, so this is blocking… but let’s, let’s implement that 8 so that we can…
110 00:09:18.240 ⇒ 00:09:20.290 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so, yeah, that’s… yeah, effectively.
111 00:09:20.290 ⇒ 00:09:20.610 Henry Zhao: I don’t.
112 00:09:20.610 ⇒ 00:09:21.240 Zoran Selinger: Anything else?
113 00:09:22.650 ⇒ 00:09:27.260 Amber Lin: Yeah, I’ll add this… Implement…
114 00:09:28.380 ⇒ 00:09:32.080 Henry Zhao: Yeah, let’s please prioritize that so that I can have data to work with.
115 00:09:32.380 ⇒ 00:09:33.090 Amber Lin: Yep.
116 00:09:35.100 ⇒ 00:09:35.990 Amber Lin: Okay.
117 00:09:37.980 ⇒ 00:09:40.469 Amber Lin: And I remember you said this is…
118 00:09:40.470 ⇒ 00:09:51.759 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, this is done. This is done, we confirmed, so we had to replace the old connection with the new account. That old account was, was,
119 00:09:52.410 ⇒ 00:09:54.979 Zoran Selinger: what do you say? Band, or…
120 00:09:56.870 ⇒ 00:10:03.459 Zoran Selinger: It was suspended for whatever reason, so yeah, we have a new connection there, that’s ready, so that’s… that’s done, yeah.
121 00:10:03.670 ⇒ 00:10:04.360 Amber Lin: Okay.
122 00:10:04.680 ⇒ 00:10:08.100 Amber Lin: And then… This one…
123 00:10:08.360 ⇒ 00:10:17.340 Amber Lin: And then, would you have time to do some documentation, what you have been doing for North Beam, and then the Edge and stuff?
124 00:10:20.470 ⇒ 00:10:22.109 Zoran Selinger: Sure, okay.
125 00:10:22.110 ⇒ 00:10:22.870 Amber Lin: Yeah.
126 00:10:22.980 ⇒ 00:10:25.369 Amber Lin: Or just document…
127 00:10:25.780 ⇒ 00:10:38.120 Amber Lin: patient on… what type of documentation would you… would you like? Or, I guess, for a wish as a tech lead, like, what… what type of documentation would you want? What do we want it to look like?
128 00:10:40.590 ⇒ 00:10:41.110 Awaish Kumar: this?
129 00:10:42.770 ⇒ 00:10:45.530 Zoran Selinger: Or, Arash, sorry, you wanted to say…
130 00:10:45.930 ⇒ 00:10:48.730 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I was just saying that, like, I…
131 00:10:48.990 ⇒ 00:10:52.780 Awaish Kumar: I want to get, like, the… the process.
132 00:10:53.410 ⇒ 00:11:03.399 Awaish Kumar: And, like, all the decisions made while building that, North Beam Age layer, So, for example, how…
133 00:11:03.610 ⇒ 00:11:13.550 Awaish Kumar: the attribution looks like, and on the north stream, what is the flow? Like, for example, if you have to onboard a junior to do the same thing.
134 00:11:13.780 ⇒ 00:11:22.519 Awaish Kumar: how would you, what would you, like, kind of SOP kind of a document, and what are you going to share with him, so he can quickly onboard on this?
135 00:11:24.740 ⇒ 00:11:25.819 Zoran Selinger: Sure, sure.
136 00:11:27.300 ⇒ 00:11:27.990 Amber Lin: Okay.
137 00:11:28.420 ⇒ 00:11:37.180 Amber Lin: Alright, that’s all of these, let’s see… This is for…
138 00:11:43.010 ⇒ 00:11:47.800 Amber Lin: Alright. I think that’s all for Sauron.
139 00:11:48.760 ⇒ 00:11:54.039 Amber Lin: And… Okay, let’s get started with the…
140 00:11:54.750 ⇒ 00:11:59.179 Amber Lin: cycle. Is there anything else here that we need to learn for?
141 00:12:01.210 ⇒ 00:12:04.120 Henry Zhao: Nope, I’m gonna be with him later today, and we’ll go over some options.
142 00:12:04.120 ⇒ 00:12:12.720 Amber Lin: Awesome. I might… I might have a recurring invite for Zora on Tuesday, so it’ll just be… just so that we can sync.
143 00:12:12.920 ⇒ 00:12:15.920 Amber Lin: But I, I will send that out.
144 00:12:16.500 ⇒ 00:12:17.860 Amber Lin: Or maybe Monday.
145 00:12:20.430 ⇒ 00:12:22.620 Amber Lin: Alright, thanks, Ron. Feel free to hop.
146 00:12:22.620 ⇒ 00:12:23.620 Zoran Selinger: Thank you, bye-bye.
147 00:12:26.560 ⇒ 00:12:27.350 Amber Lin: Okay.
148 00:12:28.870 ⇒ 00:12:30.540 Amber Lin: Alright.
149 00:12:32.100 ⇒ 00:12:37.540 Amber Lin: I know Allison sent us an email, need to go check.
150 00:12:37.710 ⇒ 00:12:42.199 Amber Lin: Is this… this PR was ready yesterday, was this merged yet?
151 00:12:43.440 ⇒ 00:12:44.530 Henry Zhao: I think so, yeah.
152 00:12:44.950 ⇒ 00:12:45.720 Amber Lin: Okay.
153 00:12:51.410 ⇒ 00:12:57.990 Amber Lin: Alright, and then… That one.
154 00:12:58.520 ⇒ 00:13:01.310 Amber Lin: Damal, did you find a table for Henry?
155 00:13:02.390 ⇒ 00:13:04.060 Demilade Agboola: Yes, I did, I shared it with him.
156 00:13:04.060 ⇒ 00:13:06.650 Amber Lin: Okay, awesome, so I’ll just say this is done.
157 00:13:07.280 ⇒ 00:13:14.509 Amber Lin: The… I guess that we have time to do the product sales summary.
158 00:13:15.070 ⇒ 00:13:16.420 Amber Lin: the cycle.
159 00:13:18.140 ⇒ 00:13:25.320 Amber Lin: So… Media response… Alright.
160 00:13:25.690 ⇒ 00:13:29.120 Amber Lin: Updates on any of these tickets?
161 00:13:34.310 ⇒ 00:13:35.469 Amber Lin: For Henry.
162 00:13:35.880 ⇒ 00:13:36.730 Henry Zhao: Hmm…
163 00:13:40.090 ⇒ 00:13:42.840 Henry Zhao: No, just today I’m gonna do some mix panel testing.
164 00:13:42.970 ⇒ 00:13:51.030 Henry Zhao: So I’ve updated 1004 to also check Mixpanel, just to make sure that all of the intake is being logged in Mixpanel as well, so that Ryan can build.
165 00:13:51.140 ⇒ 00:13:52.850 Henry Zhao: Drop off dashes.
166 00:13:54.490 ⇒ 00:13:56.980 Amber Lin: I see, budget. Let’s add…
167 00:13:56.980 ⇒ 00:14:00.349 Henry Zhao: And then Sam got down… got delayed to Thursday.
168 00:14:00.710 ⇒ 00:14:04.269 Amber Lin: This… wait, this one… Make that sense.
169 00:14:04.270 ⇒ 00:14:06.369 Henry Zhao: Tomorrow. They’re doing this tomorrow.
170 00:14:06.650 ⇒ 00:14:09.310 Henry Zhao: I’m doing it today, but I’ll put tomorrow as a buffer.
171 00:14:09.310 ⇒ 00:14:09.940 Amber Lin: Yeah.
172 00:14:10.120 ⇒ 00:14:16.099 Henry Zhao: And… this one… Today, because I’m meeting with Zon today.
173 00:14:16.700 ⇒ 00:14:17.609 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.
174 00:14:22.290 ⇒ 00:14:24.890 Henry Zhao: Speak to Sam is now Thursday, because he’s under the weather.
175 00:14:35.200 ⇒ 00:14:37.009 Henry Zhao: Monitor adherence, let’s due Friday.
176 00:14:43.820 ⇒ 00:14:45.989 Henry Zhao: And you can put need stakeholder response.
177 00:14:47.130 ⇒ 00:14:48.939 Amber Lin: This one? Or this one?
178 00:14:48.940 ⇒ 00:14:50.569 Henry Zhao: Yeah, monitor adherence.
179 00:14:55.170 ⇒ 00:14:58.189 Amber Lin: Is this… okay, but he said this is a little primer.
180 00:14:58.650 ⇒ 00:15:04.080 Amber Lin: And then the ROAS… Dashboard. What changes do we need?
181 00:15:05.520 ⇒ 00:15:08.990 Henry Zhao: Just break out affiliates, then, like we have for the non-snapshot one.
182 00:15:09.340 ⇒ 00:15:10.110 Amber Lin: Okay.
183 00:15:21.270 ⇒ 00:15:23.999 Amber Lin: Also low, so I’ll just put it at…
184 00:15:28.620 ⇒ 00:15:29.660 Amber Lin: Right,
185 00:15:34.310 ⇒ 00:15:35.259 Henry Zhao: Okay, that’s about it.
186 00:15:35.260 ⇒ 00:15:37.000 Amber Lin: Yeah, this one.
187 00:15:38.470 ⇒ 00:15:39.960 Amber Lin: I think we can do it.
188 00:15:40.240 ⇒ 00:15:41.920 Amber Lin: Today.
189 00:15:42.990 ⇒ 00:15:45.479 Henry Zhao: What is this about?
190 00:15:45.810 ⇒ 00:15:53.410 Amber Lin: This is what Cutter asked about yesterday. So, remember they said they want to fire an event on their cancel screen, and then…
191 00:15:53.670 ⇒ 00:15:55.380 Amber Lin: See how that goes.
192 00:15:55.510 ⇒ 00:16:01.270 Amber Lin: They… I think they want to have your current way so that they can request from BASC.
193 00:16:03.520 ⇒ 00:16:05.869 Henry Zhao: Hmm, no, this is about catalysts.
194 00:16:07.620 ⇒ 00:16:08.400 Amber Lin: Oh.
195 00:16:08.650 ⇒ 00:16:12.229 Amber Lin: So get rid of the So Eden, because that’s not… that’s a different thing.
196 00:16:15.260 ⇒ 00:16:18.669 Henry Zhao: Yeah, that’s the thing that’s… something else that’s going on.
197 00:16:20.120 ⇒ 00:16:23.680 Henry Zhao: I don’t want to send this to the analytics channel, I don’t want people to…
198 00:16:26.270 ⇒ 00:16:29.800 Amber Lin: You can just, just send it to Clutter if he needs it.
199 00:16:29.800 ⇒ 00:16:33.660 Henry Zhao: I already did. I already sent it to Carter and Matthias, who are the only ones that should be using it anyway, so…
200 00:16:33.660 ⇒ 00:16:35.319 Amber Lin: Oh, and that’s done.
201 00:16:36.290 ⇒ 00:16:37.040 Amber Lin: Great.
202 00:16:42.220 ⇒ 00:16:48.260 Amber Lin: When would this… Do you think we can get this done this week?
203 00:16:49.610 ⇒ 00:16:52.590 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I just need the stakeholder response. I need…
204 00:16:52.720 ⇒ 00:16:55.519 Henry Zhao: I’m not… I’m getting conflicting answers on…
205 00:16:55.730 ⇒ 00:16:58.520 Henry Zhao: On what last touch attribution should be.
206 00:16:59.490 ⇒ 00:17:04.700 Henry Zhao: So, I asked the Wish… And I asked Cutter, and then I asked Robert, like.
207 00:17:05.390 ⇒ 00:17:14.640 Henry Zhao: Where should we be firing last touch? Is it before they finish the intake, or when it’s Bask order completed, or when prescription is sent to pharmacy? And you guys can hear me okay, right?
208 00:17:15.569 ⇒ 00:17:16.479 Awaish Kumar: Yes.
209 00:17:17.800 ⇒ 00:17:23.369 Henry Zhao: And I’m just very confused about that, because I’m getting different… Signals from everyone.
210 00:17:23.910 ⇒ 00:17:27.989 Henry Zhao: But I will maybe just ask again after I test the intake.
211 00:17:37.520 ⇒ 00:17:41.300 Henry Zhao: If you guys have any guidance for me, that would be really… Really appreciate it.
212 00:17:41.440 ⇒ 00:17:45.140 Henry Zhao: Because last touch needs to be before a conversion, but what are we defining as a conversion?
213 00:17:45.390 ⇒ 00:17:48.140 Henry Zhao: That’s what’s, currently needs to be aligned on.
214 00:17:50.250 ⇒ 00:17:54.640 Henry Zhao: And if we can’t align, maybe I’ll have a meeting with Awash, Robert, and Cutter.
215 00:17:54.800 ⇒ 00:17:59.059 Henry Zhao: And we just sit in one room, the four people that have given me different answers.
216 00:17:59.060 ⇒ 00:17:59.430 Amber Lin: is the one.
217 00:17:59.430 ⇒ 00:18:00.660 Henry Zhao: as a… as a group.
218 00:18:01.920 ⇒ 00:18:06.109 Henry Zhao: But let me test the intake first before I… so I have additional information to give to everyone.
219 00:18:06.650 ⇒ 00:18:07.440 Amber Lin: I see.
220 00:18:07.820 ⇒ 00:18:17.300 Amber Lin: Sounds good. Yesterday, remember the… the refunds model one? Where is that ticket?
221 00:18:18.340 ⇒ 00:18:21.760 Amber Lin: Like, the additional table cutter, I think this one.
222 00:18:22.760 ⇒ 00:18:26.280 Amber Lin: So I think this bottom part…
223 00:18:27.870 ⇒ 00:18:30.270 Amber Lin: We don’t have an answer for yet.
224 00:18:30.860 ⇒ 00:18:33.359 Henry Zhao: Yeah, we need to talk to Sam on Thursday. That’s what I rescheduled.
225 00:18:33.360 ⇒ 00:18:38.260 Amber Lin: I can… I can also… Hmm.
226 00:18:38.670 ⇒ 00:18:46.360 Amber Lin: Can we drop this question in the AI channel so that maybe someone there can answer it, if Sam can’t? I feel like it’s a.
227 00:18:46.360 ⇒ 00:18:46.730 Henry Zhao: Yeah, sure.
228 00:18:46.730 ⇒ 00:18:48.120 Amber Lin: Since we’re not implementing it.
229 00:18:48.120 ⇒ 00:18:49.059 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, we can…
230 00:18:49.060 ⇒ 00:18:50.280 Amber Lin: Decently quick.
231 00:18:51.230 ⇒ 00:18:55.619 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, basically, like, I have the answer.
232 00:18:56.060 ⇒ 00:19:06.309 Awaish Kumar: that, like, obviously we can use AI, we just have to make one call to OpenAI with the context, and it will give us the categories.
233 00:19:07.760 ⇒ 00:19:10.960 Awaish Kumar: It’s just a matter of… Like.
234 00:19:11.860 ⇒ 00:19:19.680 Awaish Kumar: How will… how he gonna do the AI work as well? If yes, then yeah, we can… you can assign it to me as a ticket, because…
235 00:19:19.840 ⇒ 00:19:23.539 Awaish Kumar: At the end, it is going to be a dexter pipeline or something.
236 00:19:25.650 ⇒ 00:19:26.410 Awaish Kumar: Yep.
237 00:19:26.640 ⇒ 00:19:27.590 Amber Lin: Scope…
238 00:19:28.700 ⇒ 00:19:36.470 Amber Lin: I mean, since Robert is also here, are we okay with doing AI work for them if they asked us to?
239 00:19:43.060 ⇒ 00:19:44.629 Amber Lin: Question for Robert.
240 00:19:44.840 ⇒ 00:19:46.030 Amber Lin: You’re on mute.
241 00:19:47.730 ⇒ 00:19:52.300 Robert Tseng: Oh, I’ve been on mute. I was trying to respond to Henry, too, and I…
242 00:19:53.120 ⇒ 00:19:56.480 Robert Tseng: What’s like, what’s going on? Okay, well…
243 00:19:56.730 ⇒ 00:19:59.599 Robert Tseng: Whatever. Yeah, I guess,
244 00:20:00.270 ⇒ 00:20:10.689 Robert Tseng: No, I mean, I would want to hear, like, what the needs are. I think Danny kind of gave me some requests as well, but no, I would… I would try to get more… a different budget for this.
245 00:20:11.740 ⇒ 00:20:17.109 Amber Lin: Okay. So we’ll tell them how we do it and what we can do.
246 00:20:18.050 ⇒ 00:20:19.350 Robert Tseng: Yeah, like, it’s just…
247 00:20:19.470 ⇒ 00:20:35.969 Robert Tseng: just kind of gather as many requirements. It’s not just requirements, I just… we need to build up enough scope. If it’s just a one-off ask, the answer’s gonna be no. But if it looks like there’s a real opportunity there to, like, actually pursue, like, an account expansion there.
248 00:20:36.190 ⇒ 00:20:45.429 Robert Tseng: Then yeah, I think I… I think we should go get it. I… I suppose, like, I would be expecting either Awish or Henry to kind of go and
249 00:20:45.550 ⇒ 00:20:46.840 Robert Tseng: And,
250 00:20:48.120 ⇒ 00:21:04.180 Robert Tseng: I mean, this is part of, like, the upsell kind of conversation we were talking about. I guess, Amber, you can have a piece of that, too, but, I mean, all I’ve heard is, like, I mean, I can forward you random requests that I get, but it’s not, you know, cohesive enough for me to really, like, want to take on that work.
251 00:21:08.950 ⇒ 00:21:21.670 Amber Lin: Okay, so I’ll just make a… I’ll just keep this as very, very simple, like, a quick, simple scoping ticket. What about the top three, Henry? Are those in progress?
252 00:21:22.040 ⇒ 00:21:29.089 Awaish Kumar: Like, Demilhi already mentioned, like, that these fields are in a table called Order Refunds.
253 00:21:29.360 ⇒ 00:21:29.930 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
254 00:21:30.850 ⇒ 00:21:34.229 Awaish Kumar: So, if… maybe you can have a look, and let me.
255 00:21:34.230 ⇒ 00:21:35.090 Henry Zhao: I’ll look at it today.
256 00:21:35.090 ⇒ 00:21:35.800 Awaish Kumar: forgiveness.
257 00:21:35.800 ⇒ 00:21:36.180 Amber Lin: Okay.
258 00:21:36.180 ⇒ 00:21:36.670 Awaish Kumar: Yep.
259 00:21:36.670 ⇒ 00:21:41.630 Amber Lin: So we’ll say, I’ll say tomorrow as due date. Alright, that’s that.
260 00:21:42.140 ⇒ 00:21:46.030 Amber Lin: Where’s the… okay, that’s the forecast required. Great.
261 00:21:46.400 ⇒ 00:21:53.240 Amber Lin: And then, attribution fence… Do you need any nudging to Matt on this?
262 00:21:53.450 ⇒ 00:21:54.710 Henry Zhao: I nudged him.
263 00:21:54.710 ⇒ 00:21:56.230 Amber Lin: Okay, great.
264 00:21:56.780 ⇒ 00:21:59.780 Henry Zhao: It’s not the end of the world if he doesn’t do anything. It’ll just…
265 00:21:59.780 ⇒ 00:22:02.820 Amber Lin: Okay, so I’ll just… Put it as above.
266 00:22:03.200 ⇒ 00:22:12.419 Amber Lin: Yeah, last thing, I think on Robert’s side, what about the projections? Would you do that this week for Mitesh and Brad?
267 00:22:12.420 ⇒ 00:22:16.879 Robert Tseng: Kinda depends on our hours. If we’re looking fine on hours, I’ll do it. Otherwise, I’m not gonna do it.
268 00:22:16.880 ⇒ 00:22:20.720 Amber Lin: Right now, we’re looking at 57 total.
269 00:22:23.250 ⇒ 00:22:29.970 Amber Lin: I think that’s… Reasonable. We can push out some internal tasks, so we can do it.
270 00:22:30.120 ⇒ 00:22:33.559 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, I can do it by end of week if we need to, but yeah.
271 00:22:33.880 ⇒ 00:22:34.440 Amber Lin: Okay.
272 00:22:34.560 ⇒ 00:22:35.260 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
273 00:22:35.260 ⇒ 00:22:36.780 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good.
274 00:22:41.840 ⇒ 00:22:53.450 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think that’s all. And then for the… just for the slides, I know I have the allocation slide. Is there any other slide that Awesha and Damlade needs to do, Robert?
275 00:22:54.760 ⇒ 00:22:59.669 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I’m gonna review slides at the end of the day today. Like, I haven’t looked at your guys’ slides yet.
276 00:22:59.670 ⇒ 00:23:02.629 Amber Lin: Oh, I’m not, I’m not touched on, so I’m gonna go do that.
277 00:23:02.920 ⇒ 00:23:13.369 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, once it’s done, I mean, tomorrow I’m presenting on it. So, to me, the topics are, I mean, on the… I just kind of lump them together, but…
278 00:23:13.370 ⇒ 00:23:24.909 Robert Tseng: Remo, we under-quoted, so we need to talk about expansion there. I did bring up budgeting issues with having Zoran on right now, and it’s kind of, like, eating into the rest of the team’s time.
279 00:23:24.950 ⇒ 00:23:39.760 Robert Tseng: I… I told the… I told ELT, you should create a separate budget just for marketing analytics, or just, like, yeah, marketing work or whatever, and that should not be eating into the rest of our budget, because, I mean.
280 00:23:39.760 ⇒ 00:23:45.490 Robert Tseng: we’re just… I mean, I think… I think they can feel, like, that we’re just, like, kicking the can on other things.
281 00:23:45.630 ⇒ 00:24:03.709 Robert Tseng: And, I mean, which is… which is good. I want them to feel that pain. I don’t want them to feel like we’re just, like, running this seamless operation that’s able to do everything with just a fixed budget. So, I want them to know the trade-offs that we’re making. So, the more that I can keep, pressing into that, I’m gonna reiterate the same thing tomorrow.
282 00:24:03.780 ⇒ 00:24:07.849 Robert Tseng: Well, that’s how I’m trying to support this team, so…
283 00:24:12.220 ⇒ 00:24:28.949 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so I guess, like, in short, I’m trying to push Zoran’s, work into a separate marketing budget, and I actually want some of, like, I mean, maybe even, like, Henry’s time should be billed in that budget as well. That way, like, it doesn’t touch what we’re considering data engineering budget, or data budget right now.
284 00:24:32.180 ⇒ 00:24:33.160 Amber Lin: Okay, cool.
285 00:24:33.440 ⇒ 00:24:36.370 Amber Lin: Sounds good, and then I will add in…
286 00:24:36.900 ⇒ 00:24:43.460 Robert Tseng: And the AI stuff can come into there, so if you want to tease that, then I can be like, great, if you actually split out the marketing budget.
287 00:24:43.460 ⇒ 00:24:57.779 Robert Tseng: And for our data work, like, I mean, I can consider AI as an extension of data. I’ll think about how to do the messaging there. But it’s like, that will free us up for us to continue to have folks on here that we can go and actually do this automation.
288 00:24:57.780 ⇒ 00:25:00.040 Robert Tseng: work or whatever they wanted to see as well.
289 00:25:00.590 ⇒ 00:25:06.369 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I don’t know if that’s, like, very intuitive for you guys, because you’re, like, working through different tasks, but that’s…
290 00:25:06.490 ⇒ 00:25:15.019 Robert Tseng: that’s just kind of how they… they just… they operate by budgets, so, like, that’s why I have to be able to translate what we’re doing into these different, distinct categories.
291 00:25:15.020 ⇒ 00:25:18.479 Amber Lin: Yeah, and do you need updates about our current work streams?
292 00:25:19.020 ⇒ 00:25:38.919 Robert Tseng: No, I think it’s more… this is more strategic Wednesdays, so I want to talk about, like, what’s coming the next month, two months. I’m gonna say we didn’t do anything mixed panel related, we just didn’t have the time, so if this is a priority for you, then once again, like, give us more budget. So, I’m… these are, like, the bigger, like.
293 00:25:38.940 ⇒ 00:25:47.639 Robert Tseng: what’s… what should be coming in the next month or two months that I want to be able to articulate to them. We’re not going to be going to different tasks.
294 00:25:48.730 ⇒ 00:25:56.820 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah, I’ll do that, during my break. I’ll have a bit of time in the middle of the day. What about… I think…
295 00:25:57.040 ⇒ 00:25:59.179 Amber Lin: Is this still a valid ticket?
296 00:26:01.570 ⇒ 00:26:02.800 Amber Lin: Like, is this…
297 00:26:06.570 ⇒ 00:26:07.390 Amber Lin: Huh.
298 00:26:09.060 ⇒ 00:26:15.740 Amber Lin: I guess, are we… are we doing this, or are they doing this? I know Stuart already made the secondary event.
299 00:26:17.100 ⇒ 00:26:19.639 Henry Zhao: Did he? No, he didn’t. I don’t think he did.
300 00:26:19.640 ⇒ 00:26:24.530 Amber Lin: He stayed in the meeting, he was like, oh, let me do that right now, so I’m not sure if he did it or not.
301 00:26:24.530 ⇒ 00:26:26.200 Henry Zhao: I don’t think you did.
302 00:26:29.890 ⇒ 00:26:32.590 Henry Zhao: Assign this to me. I’ll look into it.
303 00:26:33.090 ⇒ 00:26:43.380 Amber Lin: Okay. Might want to put some stuff out if you end up doing it. You do have some low-priority tickets, so if it ends up being more important.
304 00:26:43.900 ⇒ 00:26:46.239 Amber Lin: Then we will move some stuff out.
305 00:26:46.240 ⇒ 00:26:48.340 Henry Zhao: I don’t think… I think this’ll be, like, 0 points, though.
306 00:26:48.660 ⇒ 00:26:49.350 Amber Lin: Okay.
307 00:26:49.700 ⇒ 00:26:53.349 Henry Zhao: Because I think it’ll either end up getting canceled or repurposed.
308 00:26:53.890 ⇒ 00:26:54.500 Amber Lin: Hmm.
309 00:26:54.850 ⇒ 00:26:57.119 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good, that’s all.
310 00:26:57.360 ⇒ 00:26:58.590 Amber Lin: Thanks, everyone.
311 00:27:01.830 ⇒ 00:27:02.989 Robert Tseng: Yeah, sorry, one more.
312 00:27:02.990 ⇒ 00:27:04.500 Henry Zhao: Robert, can you meet with me now in two minutes?
313 00:27:04.910 ⇒ 00:27:06.809 Robert Tseng: Yeah, we can, we can, we can chat.
314 00:27:07.100 ⇒ 00:27:08.010 Robert Tseng: about…
315 00:27:08.250 ⇒ 00:27:17.550 Robert Tseng: what you were talking about with, the conversion events, so I want to be able to help you get unblocked there, but I guess the others, you don’t have to stay on for the call.
316 00:27:18.190 ⇒ 00:27:18.980 Amber Lin: Alrighty.
317 00:27:19.500 ⇒ 00:27:21.510 Demilade Agboola: Alright, thank you. Bye.