Meeting Title: Eden | Standup Date: 2025-10-02 Meeting participants: Awaish Kumar, Amber Lin, Demilade Agboola, Henry Zhao, Robert Tseng
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1 00:01:52.480 ⇒ 00:01:53.590 Amber Lin: Hi!
2 00:01:56.430 ⇒ 00:01:57.260 Awaish Kumar: Hello.
3 00:02:00.380 ⇒ 00:02:07.799 Amber Lin: I think we are… we are over our… Estimations.
4 00:02:08.139 ⇒ 00:02:14.900 Amber Lin: So we should move… Something out, or move stuff out that we cannot complete.
5 00:02:15.210 ⇒ 00:02:22.749 Amber Lin: This week, seth, it’s just you and I, let’s look at these.
6 00:02:23.130 ⇒ 00:02:24.810 Amber Lin: So…
7 00:02:29.010 ⇒ 00:02:32.599 Amber Lin: Any updates on these 5 tasks?
8 00:02:43.430 ⇒ 00:02:46.089 Amber Lin: Oh, you’re muted if you were talking.
9 00:02:47.670 ⇒ 00:02:50.599 Awaish Kumar: Charlie, oh, what just happened?
10 00:02:51.540 ⇒ 00:03:00.590 Amber Lin: Let’s see, yeah, these… Sorry, what’s the update on… I think these tests…
11 00:03:03.550 ⇒ 00:03:07.180 Awaish Kumar: 974…
12 00:03:07.530 ⇒ 00:03:09.940 Amber Lin: I think we discussed yesterday, we…
13 00:03:09.940 ⇒ 00:03:11.659 Awaish Kumar: And it created some grooming.
14 00:03:14.100 ⇒ 00:03:15.350 Awaish Kumar: I don’t know what…
15 00:03:17.390 ⇒ 00:03:20.550 Amber Lin: I thought we groomed it in the stand-up yesterday.
16 00:03:20.550 ⇒ 00:03:27.970 Awaish Kumar: No, no, like, we had a step one that, if…
17 00:03:28.860 ⇒ 00:03:35.000 Awaish Kumar: If yes or no is the answer, but then what about… I, I mentioned that,
18 00:03:35.400 ⇒ 00:03:40.590 Awaish Kumar: Like, why is it needed, or, like, things like that? Like, what pharmacy status is?
19 00:03:40.770 ⇒ 00:03:44.839 Awaish Kumar: I wanted that information from, like.
20 00:03:44.840 ⇒ 00:03:45.489 Henry Zhao: Yeah, that’s how they.
21 00:03:45.490 ⇒ 00:03:46.820 Awaish Kumar: I knew you don’t know that.
22 00:03:46.820 ⇒ 00:03:48.500 Henry Zhao: That’s how they used to figure out the SLA.
23 00:03:53.460 ⇒ 00:03:55.849 Amber Lin: Yeah, were you able to check this report?
24 00:03:56.970 ⇒ 00:04:06.390 Awaish Kumar: And, like, for the SLA, we are getting these, like, sent to pharmacy, right? That’s the status. That’s the only status we have. We have order…
25 00:04:06.560 ⇒ 00:04:11.600 Awaish Kumar: placed, it’s in pending, then it goes to…
26 00:04:12.610 ⇒ 00:04:14.539 Awaish Kumar: A state where it’s called,
27 00:04:14.780 ⇒ 00:04:18.459 Awaish Kumar: Sent to pharmacy, from then sent to pharmacy, it goes to…
28 00:04:20.160 ⇒ 00:04:23.760 Awaish Kumar: deliver or something, and then, like, we’ll figure out the SLAs, alright?
29 00:04:25.550 ⇒ 00:04:34.209 Awaish Kumar: After the status change to center status, and then it is changed to delivered. So what is the time between.
30 00:04:35.020 ⇒ 00:04:39.910 Henry Zhao: They include pharmacy status, pending, and warning. They want to make sure that those are also…
31 00:04:40.410 ⇒ 00:04:42.150 Henry Zhao: flagged as out of SLA.
32 00:04:44.630 ⇒ 00:04:47.909 Awaish Kumar: of… Pending and what?
33 00:04:48.830 ⇒ 00:04:52.639 Henry Zhao: Warning, pending, and sent to pharmacy.
34 00:04:54.330 ⇒ 00:04:56.939 Awaish Kumar: Okay. Is warning a status?
35 00:04:58.480 ⇒ 00:05:00.980 Henry Zhao: Yeah, it’s one of the pharmacy statuses, in Basque, at least.
36 00:05:02.760 ⇒ 00:05:04.900 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I will check that.
37 00:05:05.080 ⇒ 00:05:07.860 Henry Zhao: Yeah, if it’s not there, just let me know and I’ll tell, I’ll tell Katie.
38 00:05:08.760 ⇒ 00:05:10.580 Henry Zhao: I mean, if it’s not there, it’s not there, right, so…
39 00:05:19.240 ⇒ 00:05:23.350 Awaish Kumar: I haven’t seen it yet. I don’t know if Damladi has seen it somewhere.
40 00:05:26.320 ⇒ 00:05:27.879 Demilade Agboola: Pharmacy status.
41 00:05:28.560 ⇒ 00:05:31.609 Awaish Kumar: No, the, like, status called warning.
42 00:05:33.150 ⇒ 00:05:35.470 Demilade Agboola: No, I have not seen one in anywhere.
43 00:05:35.790 ⇒ 00:05:41.480 Demilade Agboola: It might be in a random… waste, but…
44 00:05:41.620 ⇒ 00:05:43.810 Demilade Agboola: an old… And no…
45 00:05:45.130 ⇒ 00:05:50.670 Demilade Agboola: what’s his name? Zach sent me the docs, I could always just send that, but I don’t think it’s there either.
46 00:05:53.840 ⇒ 00:05:54.500 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
47 00:05:55.850 ⇒ 00:05:59.710 Awaish Kumar: I’ll check what is possible, and I will, like, do the modeling based on that.
48 00:06:00.210 ⇒ 00:06:03.479 Awaish Kumar: And, yeah, we can tell them what’s possible, what’s not.
49 00:06:03.690 ⇒ 00:06:06.149 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good. So that’s the…
50 00:06:06.590 ⇒ 00:06:19.730 Amber Lin: That’s the main focus, but this is the main focus. Alright, and then… Is this still… Locked?
51 00:06:21.050 ⇒ 00:06:24.490 Amber Lin: Oh, I need to check it, Alice again.
52 00:06:25.100 ⇒ 00:06:26.590 Amber Lin: Okay, let me move…
53 00:06:26.590 ⇒ 00:06:27.450 Awaish Kumar: Okay, that gives you.
54 00:06:27.450 ⇒ 00:06:31.570 Amber Lin: Yeah, let me move this out, and I’ll go check on Allison.
55 00:06:31.680 ⇒ 00:06:33.570 Amber Lin: Okay.
56 00:06:35.530 ⇒ 00:06:42.280 Amber Lin: And… oh, hi Robert, let me check on this first, so you can feel free to hop.
57 00:06:43.240 ⇒ 00:06:44.249 Amber Lin: On the projector?
58 00:06:44.250 ⇒ 00:06:46.100 Robert Tseng: Should they ask for this again?
59 00:06:46.100 ⇒ 00:06:54.980 Amber Lin: No, I don’t… I don’t… I don’t think so. We did tell them… Henry, I remember, we did tell them that we’re gonna work on project… forecasting next…
60 00:06:55.890 ⇒ 00:07:00.429 Amber Lin: So, I think they’re expecting a longer timeline.
61 00:07:00.940 ⇒ 00:07:08.460 Robert Tseng: Okay, great, yeah, because I kind of saw your allocations, and I was like, ugh, we’re already kind of, like, spending a lot of time, I don’t really feel like I want to, but also…
62 00:07:08.460 ⇒ 00:07:09.329 Amber Lin: I don’t really have time.
63 00:07:09.330 ⇒ 00:07:09.900 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
64 00:07:10.040 ⇒ 00:07:11.830 Robert Tseng: Okay, great.
65 00:07:12.020 ⇒ 00:07:18.720 Henry Zhao: And Robert, the white paper you sent me this week, like, that’s actually helped me with some of the things I need to think about for forecasting.
66 00:07:18.720 ⇒ 00:07:20.350 Robert Tseng: Oh, yeah? Cool. Yes.
67 00:07:20.350 ⇒ 00:07:21.500 Henry Zhao: It’s very good timing.
68 00:07:22.160 ⇒ 00:07:22.940 Robert Tseng: Nice.
69 00:07:24.700 ⇒ 00:07:32.339 Amber Lin: Okay. Are there any other concerns on your mind? I want to address these first, so you can feel free to hop after.
70 00:07:32.810 ⇒ 00:07:42.509 Robert Tseng: Yeah, honestly, I didn’t look at Eden yesterday, so I kinda… I always get anxious when I see, like, 15 unread messages, but I was going through them. I think a couple things. One is…
71 00:07:42.510 ⇒ 00:07:55.089 Robert Tseng: I mean, people still DM me about things. I guess… I don’t know if Remo is within, kind of, scope here, but it seems like they’re trying to reach me about things on Remo. I don’t really know.
72 00:07:55.530 ⇒ 00:07:59.500 Robert Tseng: Like, I literally have no idea where we’re at with that. I know Hawaii sent over some…
73 00:07:59.900 ⇒ 00:08:10.909 Robert Tseng: something recently, I didn’t actually look at it, so, I guess if you want to just, you can, you can Slack me about that afterwards if you want. Okay, yeah. And then…
74 00:08:11.260 ⇒ 00:08:24.660 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I guess the one thing that I will do for Eden this week is, I think I mentioned they’re doing… they’re trying to close out the whole affiliate situation. Eventually we should do a debrief on this, but .
75 00:08:25.450 ⇒ 00:08:39.360 Robert Tseng: you know, basically, they think that they overpaid, the offer, like, $600,000 since, like, March or whatever. So, ELT is, like, wanting a figured point. I think I mentioned there’s a couple people who are kind of worried about
76 00:08:39.360 ⇒ 00:08:51.429 Robert Tseng: kind of where they’re at, and I’m not going to say too much, because it’s… this meeting’s being recorded, but yeah, I think I’m… I’m just gonna help them finish that audit. So, I’m just… I was already started
77 00:08:51.430 ⇒ 00:08:56.130 Robert Tseng: I started looking at some stuff yesterday, just trying to build the timeline of, like.
78 00:08:56.340 ⇒ 00:09:00.920 Robert Tseng: what happened where. But, I think the takeaway for this group is
79 00:09:01.580 ⇒ 00:09:21.369 Robert Tseng: when we’re inheriting any… anything, like, tool, process, I think there’s less of that now, because everything that Rob had done before is kind of, more or less, we’ve taken over. We should just verify that it’s actually done correctly. I think, to me, the root is that Rob had set up this affiliate,
80 00:09:21.460 ⇒ 00:09:36.409 Robert Tseng: kind of, like, attribution thing with his Google Apps Script stuff before handing it off to us. We just copy-pasted it into our data platform, but it basically was just, like, running an incorrect calculation for months, and
81 00:09:36.650 ⇒ 00:09:42.310 Robert Tseng: clearly has material impact. It’s like half a billion dollars, so, I think,
82 00:09:43.060 ⇒ 00:10:00.510 Robert Tseng: you know, I just trust but verify everything that anybody tells you. Like, I just… I don’t actually think… and we know this, like, there’s… nobody really understands, what… what’s going on, so if we can just have our own understanding of…
83 00:10:00.950 ⇒ 00:10:13.609 Robert Tseng: even, like, this Edgelary stuff that we’re setting up, like, thinking through the problem there, like, I, you know, I trust this… I trust our team more to, like, actually be thorough about thinking through problems, rather than, like, you know.
84 00:10:13.770 ⇒ 00:10:26.209 Robert Tseng: they have… they… they just, like, cobble together things and, like, ship it, and there are, like, big consequences to that. So, I just, you know, putting that on your guys’ radar, I think,
85 00:10:26.370 ⇒ 00:10:29.439 Robert Tseng: Yeah, like, somebody… somebody on marketing…
86 00:10:29.800 ⇒ 00:10:33.459 Robert Tseng: for Eden is gonna get… is gonna get, like.
87 00:10:33.720 ⇒ 00:10:42.380 Robert Tseng: but probably because of the mistake that they… that happened here. So, I’m just trying to help them build the story for, like, what they’re gonna end up doing.
88 00:10:43.070 ⇒ 00:10:43.910 Amber Lin: I see.
89 00:10:44.230 ⇒ 00:10:45.020 Amber Lin: Yeah.
90 00:10:45.020 ⇒ 00:10:49.550 Henry Zhao: Wow, that’s crazy. Well, at least that person isn’t, like, getting $500,000 docked from their pay.
91 00:10:49.820 ⇒ 00:10:50.650 Henry Zhao: That would really suck.
92 00:10:50.650 ⇒ 00:10:59.280 Robert Tseng: Yeah, no, I think they’re just trying to… gonna send… ELT just wants to send a message, or whatever, and somebody’s gonna lose their job. So, I don’t… I don’t know who, but yeah.
93 00:10:59.560 ⇒ 00:11:00.440 Amber Lin: Wow.
94 00:11:00.810 ⇒ 00:11:01.560 Henry Zhao: That’s scary.
95 00:11:02.030 ⇒ 00:11:02.660 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
96 00:11:02.660 ⇒ 00:11:07.719 Amber Lin: Well, the person who should have has already lost their job, so there’s nothing they can do.
97 00:11:07.720 ⇒ 00:11:16.489 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so it’s not our fault, obviously, but, like, well, actually, I don’t know if that’s obvious all the time. I just want us to be careful, so that’s all I’m saying.
98 00:11:16.580 ⇒ 00:11:17.590 Amber Lin: Okay.
99 00:11:18.420 ⇒ 00:11:22.600 Amber Lin: Yeah, sounds good. We’ll continue with…
100 00:11:22.600 ⇒ 00:11:29.239 Demilade Agboola: When you’re done with the story, please, can you share it so, like, it’s kind of clear what happened, and just potential pitfalls to avoid?
101 00:11:29.840 ⇒ 00:11:39.060 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so that’s why I’m saying, once I put this together, I want to do a retro with this group specifically, so that we can, like, just try to use that as a case study for, like, what actually happened, yeah.
102 00:11:39.320 ⇒ 00:11:40.160 Henry Zhao: Yeah, that’d be great.
103 00:11:40.160 ⇒ 00:11:40.440 Amber Lin: Quite.
104 00:11:41.010 ⇒ 00:11:41.660 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
105 00:11:42.030 ⇒ 00:11:51.670 Amber Lin: Sounds good. I’m looking at Delta’s tasks here. I feel like we don’t have that much Time…
106 00:11:51.890 ⇒ 00:11:55.030 Amber Lin: Let me see… oh, okay.
107 00:11:56.680 ⇒ 00:11:57.859 Amber Lin: I see.
108 00:11:59.320 ⇒ 00:12:03.800 Amber Lin: 4 points so far. We have…
109 00:12:06.300 ⇒ 00:12:12.100 Amber Lin: Okay, it’s a total of 13. Is this…
110 00:12:16.140 ⇒ 00:12:19.260 Henry Zhao: Sorry, I had to reopen this, so Demolade basically…
111 00:12:19.390 ⇒ 00:12:25.050 Henry Zhao: It… almost all of it looks good, I just need returning customers as monthly and not daily.
112 00:12:27.980 ⇒ 00:12:31.510 Demilade Agboola: Okay. I… I saw the…
113 00:12:31.660 ⇒ 00:12:41.530 Henry Zhao: Yeah, so that was the challenging part, where it’s like, rows is still daily, but columns needs to be monthly. So what I was doing is I just, instead of doing calendar months, I was just dividing by 30 days.
114 00:12:41.840 ⇒ 00:12:43.470 Henry Zhao: So, if you want to do it that way.
115 00:12:43.860 ⇒ 00:12:48.040 Henry Zhao: It’s fine. Just do, like, a count distinct, I guess, for each 30 days.
116 00:12:49.970 ⇒ 00:12:51.560 Demilade Agboola: Each 30 days or each month.
117 00:12:52.940 ⇒ 00:12:55.270 Henry Zhao: Yeah, just for simplicity, I just did 30 days.
118 00:12:57.010 ⇒ 00:12:59.120 Amber Lin: Is this still 3 points?
119 00:13:00.310 ⇒ 00:13:01.510 Demilade Agboola: It was the most popular.
120 00:13:01.510 ⇒ 00:13:02.450 Henry Zhao: It was 1.8.
121 00:13:02.450 ⇒ 00:13:03.419 Demilade Agboola: Probably at one.
122 00:13:04.410 ⇒ 00:13:05.320 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.
123 00:13:05.870 ⇒ 00:13:06.670 Henry Zhao: Yeah, it was 1MA.
124 00:13:06.670 ⇒ 00:13:09.929 Demilade Agboola: This is the… Can you open a new ticket, because technically.
125 00:13:09.930 ⇒ 00:13:10.989 Amber Lin: Yeah, yeah, let me…
126 00:13:10.990 ⇒ 00:13:13.690 Demilade Agboola: It was still… yeah, the other one was still 3 points.
127 00:13:14.870 ⇒ 00:13:20.820 Amber Lin: Okay, this was 3 point… yeah, I do want to track your work. Let me create…
128 00:13:24.960 ⇒ 00:13:26.150 Henry Zhao: Yeah, perfect.
129 00:13:40.390 ⇒ 00:13:41.570 Amber Lin: Okay, great.
130 00:13:41.920 ⇒ 00:13:50.300 Amber Lin: Perfect, thank you. Then we have these… of… Huh.
131 00:13:50.780 ⇒ 00:13:53.119 Amber Lin: Of two days, I feel like this…
132 00:13:53.120 ⇒ 00:13:56.630 Demilade Agboola: 971 should… Everyone was tight.
133 00:13:57.080 ⇒ 00:13:58.110 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.
134 00:13:58.600 ⇒ 00:14:01.600 Amber Lin: Great. Done.
135 00:14:02.990 ⇒ 00:14:05.560 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I haven’t had a chance to look at it yet, but yeah, thanks, Namala.
136 00:14:05.560 ⇒ 00:14:09.790 Amber Lin: Okay, so let me, block… was it this?
137 00:14:10.900 ⇒ 00:14:13.250 Henry Zhao: I think so, yeah. Unblocked.
138 00:14:13.250 ⇒ 00:14:24.129 Amber Lin: Is it to-do… Okay, so… I think we can’t manage 5 points. And then, looking at here…
139 00:14:24.790 ⇒ 00:14:27.209 Amber Lin: What needs to get kicked out?
140 00:14:28.950 ⇒ 00:14:30.859 Henry Zhao: A lot of these are just blocked, so…
141 00:14:31.040 ⇒ 00:14:35.360 Henry Zhao: As they get unblocked, I can work on those. But right now, I’m just focusing on 995 today.
142 00:14:36.000 ⇒ 00:14:38.329 Amber Lin: 995… okay.
143 00:14:38.600 ⇒ 00:14:40.040 Henry Zhao: Yeah. Today…
144 00:14:40.380 ⇒ 00:14:45.870 Amber Lin: It does… I… don’t…
145 00:14:46.520 ⇒ 00:14:48.730 Henry Zhao: This time I’m waiting for Kumar to respond, he hasn’t responded.
146 00:14:49.240 ⇒ 00:14:50.540 Amber Lin: I see, I see.
147 00:14:50.540 ⇒ 00:14:55.009 Henry Zhao: So if he’s not responding, it must not be that urgent, so I’m gonna leave it.
148 00:14:55.010 ⇒ 00:15:01.899 Amber Lin: Like, I’m not gonna push him to respond. Yeah, I will push this out, and then if he responds…
149 00:15:02.070 ⇒ 00:15:04.549 Amber Lin: If he gets back to us, we’ll see.
150 00:15:04.800 ⇒ 00:15:06.050 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I don’t think it’s that urgent.
151 00:15:07.010 ⇒ 00:15:18.000 Henry Zhao: Because he said it is an Ads Manager, he just needs a dash to show ELT. In my opinion, that’s not… although it’s ELT, it’s not that urgent, because he can pull up Ads Manager, or show the data. Yeah.
152 00:15:18.190 ⇒ 00:15:22.859 Amber Lin: Yeah. And then, this one… did Cutter say anything about that?
153 00:15:24.450 ⇒ 00:15:28.130 Henry Zhao: Yes, this one is blocked by modeling needs.
154 00:15:30.230 ⇒ 00:15:31.840 Amber Lin: Do we have a ticket for that?
155 00:15:31.840 ⇒ 00:15:34.380 Henry Zhao: Yes, I assign it to a wish.
156 00:15:34.380 ⇒ 00:15:34.930 Amber Lin: Okay.
157 00:15:34.930 ⇒ 00:15:40.079 Henry Zhao: I mean, demolade, sorry. It was… Where is it?
158 00:15:40.890 ⇒ 00:15:41.880 Amber Lin: Is it done?
159 00:15:42.500 ⇒ 00:15:43.349 Amber Lin: This one?
160 00:15:43.960 ⇒ 00:15:47.119 Amber Lin: No, that’s the errors that came up.
161 00:15:47.120 ⇒ 00:15:49.280 Henry Zhao: Let’s see, I just created it today, so let me…
162 00:15:49.740 ⇒ 00:15:53.800 Amber Lin: Oh, maybe it didn’t get added into Cycle, sometimes it gets lost.
163 00:15:54.020 ⇒ 00:15:55.999 Henry Zhao: Oh, I added it, one second.
164 00:16:00.470 ⇒ 00:16:01.170 Amber Lin: Huh.
165 00:16:01.390 ⇒ 00:16:02.130 Henry Zhao: What is it?
166 00:16:02.480 ⇒ 00:16:04.269 Henry Zhao: I literally just added it.
167 00:16:07.060 ⇒ 00:16:09.049 Henry Zhao: I’ll find it and add it to that task.
168 00:16:09.260 ⇒ 00:16:09.880 Amber Lin: Okay.
169 00:16:10.120 ⇒ 00:16:11.569 Amber Lin: Here’s what I also added.
170 00:16:13.420 ⇒ 00:16:16.880 Amber Lin: And then… This is…
171 00:16:17.960 ⇒ 00:16:19.269 Henry Zhao: This I just haven’t looked at yet.
172 00:16:19.870 ⇒ 00:16:20.540 Amber Lin: Okay.
173 00:16:21.350 ⇒ 00:16:28.690 Amber Lin: There’s also a to-do… I’ll say by… I’ll say end of week.
174 00:16:30.690 ⇒ 00:16:41.190 Amber Lin: Yeah, which is also too far. Question about this, it’s just been open for a while, Wish, have you had a chance to look at MSPR?
175 00:16:41.330 ⇒ 00:16:45.470 Awaish Kumar: Not yet. I will finalize it, really.
176 00:16:45.970 ⇒ 00:16:46.430 Amber Lin: Okay.
177 00:16:46.470 ⇒ 00:16:47.440 Henry Zhao: situation.
178 00:16:48.320 ⇒ 00:16:56.500 Henry Zhao: I think the sources.yaml should be fixed now. I don’t know if it still says a red X, so just let me know if it’s still not…
179 00:16:56.700 ⇒ 00:16:58.120 Henry Zhao: I fixed the spacing, yeah.
180 00:16:58.930 ⇒ 00:17:05.119 Amber Lin: Yeah. Did we reach out… we said we reached out to support on this one, right?
181 00:17:07.230 ⇒ 00:17:09.590 Henry Zhao: Yeah, we finished the test.
182 00:17:09.829 ⇒ 00:17:11.540 Henry Zhao: We just need to make a decision now.
183 00:17:12.470 ⇒ 00:17:13.859 Henry Zhao: Oh.
184 00:17:13.869 ⇒ 00:17:15.929 Amber Lin: What’s the… what’s the decision?
185 00:17:16.170 ⇒ 00:17:18.109 Henry Zhao: So that was what we were talking about yesterday, where…
186 00:17:18.119 ⇒ 00:17:19.149 Amber Lin: Oh.
187 00:17:20.280 ⇒ 00:17:27.500 Henry Zhao: We might want to ask ELT whether they prefer to have more data and pay more money to segment, or…
188 00:17:28.190 ⇒ 00:17:33.300 Henry Zhao: turn this off in segment and just analyze things in CIO or in BigQuery.
189 00:17:33.840 ⇒ 00:17:39.099 Robert Tseng: Wait, so what’s the data loss here? Yeah, because this is actually something I’m… because we should have kind of,
190 00:17:39.470 ⇒ 00:17:43.230 Robert Tseng: I mean, it’s a new month, they probably got billed already for the overages.
191 00:17:44.300 ⇒ 00:17:54.420 Henry Zhao: Yeah, but if we turn it off, like, tomorrow, the month should be okay. But anyway, Awesha, if you want to give Robert an update on what you mentioned yesterday, of, like, if we don’t send this through segment, what are the issues?
192 00:17:55.070 ⇒ 00:17:58.229 Robert Tseng: Yeah, you can just Slack it to me, too, if you’ve already repeated it before.
193 00:17:59.060 ⇒ 00:18:00.460 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
194 00:18:00.780 ⇒ 00:18:06.860 Awaish Kumar: I can select, but the only… only thing is that about the identity streaming, thing, which…
195 00:18:07.210 ⇒ 00:18:13.040 Awaish Kumar: Segment is about, like, Segment may have maybe better algorithm to…
196 00:18:13.480 ⇒ 00:18:17.229 Awaish Kumar: To connect the visits by the customers.
197 00:18:17.230 ⇒ 00:18:26.749 Robert Tseng: Oh yeah, so this is, like, the message I sent, because, like, the segment rep was like, hey, by the way, like, if you turn this off, like, this is what you’ll lose. So, you guys looked at that, and then, okay, sure.
198 00:18:26.750 ⇒ 00:18:36.340 Henry Zhao: Yeah, but my thought was, like, it might be good enough just to look at the UTMs and stitch it, right? It might be worth the savings to just have a good enough.
199 00:18:36.340 ⇒ 00:18:37.100 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
200 00:18:37.530 ⇒ 00:18:39.689 Henry Zhao: Because they’re not asking for that much detail so far.
201 00:18:40.590 ⇒ 00:18:42.840 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, question was, how important is it?
202 00:18:43.030 ⇒ 00:18:53.949 Awaish Kumar: If we lose the… some of the visits by people who are… who actually haven’t made any order, is that really important for us, or how important that is?
203 00:18:54.520 ⇒ 00:19:02.619 Robert Tseng: Right now, we don’t look at any of it, so I would say maybe we just, like, we just turn it off for now. We don’t need ELT approval for that. And then if we,
204 00:19:03.010 ⇒ 00:19:12.399 Robert Tseng: as we… because I know we were saying, oh, we’re gonna get mixed panel going, I don’t think any work has really been done there. Obviously, I know we’re trying to, like, balance against other things.
205 00:19:12.890 ⇒ 00:19:13.440 Henry Zhao: I don’t remember it.
206 00:19:13.440 ⇒ 00:19:13.940 Robert Tseng: going in…
207 00:19:13.940 ⇒ 00:19:19.750 Henry Zhao: No, but remember, we’re not sending any more email sends and opens to Mixpanel. Like, we purposely turned that off.
208 00:19:20.280 ⇒ 00:19:24.009 Robert Tseng: Yeah, oh, okay, right, so this wouldn’t even impact Mixpanel anyway.
209 00:19:24.230 ⇒ 00:19:24.830 Henry Zhao: Right.
210 00:19:26.940 ⇒ 00:19:33.079 Amber Lin: Okay, so this is decided, so we’ll… I’ll make a ticket to turn off, segment.
211 00:19:33.080 ⇒ 00:19:38.310 Henry Zhao: If I were ELT, personally, I don’t want to spend that much money for something that is not…
212 00:19:38.550 ⇒ 00:19:40.550 Henry Zhao: That useful in terms of insights for me.
213 00:19:41.050 ⇒ 00:19:42.460 Robert Tseng: Yeah, totally.
214 00:19:42.460 ⇒ 00:19:48.090 Henry Zhao: I would rather act on the UTMs for Judd, like, he does a win-back campaign, what is the actual…
215 00:19:48.320 ⇒ 00:19:52.410 Henry Zhao: click-through rates for those UTMs. Like, that’s more useful to me.
216 00:19:52.980 ⇒ 00:20:02.159 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, because rarely do people go into… For that, do we need to work on, is there any data directly going, like, through segment?
217 00:20:02.310 ⇒ 00:20:08.639 Awaish Kumar: Is there any data going from CIO to Mixed Panel directly? If there is, then maybe we have to…
218 00:20:09.640 ⇒ 00:20:12.839 Awaish Kumar: through BigQuery, right? We need to have those tickets as well.
219 00:20:13.440 ⇒ 00:20:21.329 Henry Zhao: Yeah, Mixpanel’s still getting clicks onwards, so we’re just turning off email sends and opens, because those are huge volumes, like millions per month.
220 00:20:21.750 ⇒ 00:20:23.869 Henry Zhao: And it’s not as helpful.
221 00:20:25.210 ⇒ 00:20:29.260 Awaish Kumar: Okay, so we are not completely turning off whatever is coming from CIO?
222 00:20:29.510 ⇒ 00:20:31.010 Awaish Kumar: But few things, right?
223 00:20:31.010 ⇒ 00:20:33.000 Henry Zhao: Just, just, yeah, just sends and opens.
224 00:20:33.160 ⇒ 00:20:36.360 Henry Zhao: And philosophically, I also have this belief that
225 00:20:36.560 ⇒ 00:20:44.219 Henry Zhao: For emails, there are two types of people. There are people that, you know, there’s people that have zero unread emails, and there’s people that have 96,000.
226 00:20:45.210 ⇒ 00:20:46.160 Awaish Kumar: So…
227 00:20:46.200 ⇒ 00:20:50.660 Henry Zhao: For me, email sends and opens aren’t even that useful, because… It doesn’t…
228 00:20:50.660 ⇒ 00:20:51.120 Awaish Kumar: Okay, okay.
229 00:20:51.500 ⇒ 00:20:53.639 Henry Zhao: Yeah, in my opinion, there’s not that much insights, so…
230 00:20:54.110 ⇒ 00:20:58.710 Amber Lin: Yeah, I made a ticket. Do you think it’s one point? Because we do need to, like, check and…
231 00:20:59.270 ⇒ 00:21:01.760 Amber Lin: Go back and forth. Are we doing that this week?
232 00:21:01.760 ⇒ 00:21:02.820 Henry Zhao: You guys make it one point.
233 00:21:03.460 ⇒ 00:21:04.860 Henry Zhao: Yeah, we can do it this week.
234 00:21:04.860 ⇒ 00:21:05.470 Amber Lin: Okay.
235 00:21:06.160 ⇒ 00:21:08.680 Robert Tseng: Alright, I’m just gonna tell the segment rep we’re turning it off, then.
236 00:21:09.200 ⇒ 00:21:09.830 Amber Lin: Okay.
237 00:21:10.330 ⇒ 00:21:10.970 Robert Tseng: Okay.
238 00:21:10.970 ⇒ 00:21:12.150 Amber Lin: Sounds good.
239 00:21:12.840 ⇒ 00:21:19.219 Amber Lin: Dun dun… Seems to be this blocked.
240 00:21:20.850 ⇒ 00:21:22.720 Amber Lin: What is this blocked by?
241 00:21:26.550 ⇒ 00:21:29.210 Amber Lin: It’s blocked by, yeah, it’s blocked by…
242 00:21:29.320 ⇒ 00:21:36.059 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I need… actually, Ryan… not Ryan, matt to redo his UTMs.
243 00:21:36.250 ⇒ 00:21:41.279 Henry Zhao: So, the stems are not… for Catalysts are not following Robert’s template.
244 00:21:41.570 ⇒ 00:21:45.870 Henry Zhao: Not to mention, source should not be catalysts.
245 00:21:46.060 ⇒ 00:21:50.690 Henry Zhao: That should be the, like, medium should be… affiliates.
246 00:21:54.110 ⇒ 00:22:00.510 Henry Zhao: So, later today, I’ve loom to literally everyone in marketing on how UTMs should be set up.
247 00:22:01.380 ⇒ 00:22:01.830 Amber Lin: Okay.
248 00:22:01.830 ⇒ 00:22:02.340 Henry Zhao: I’m giving this…
249 00:22:02.340 ⇒ 00:22:05.650 Amber Lin: So specifically, this is blocked by Matt.
250 00:22:08.050 ⇒ 00:22:09.710 Amber Lin: Yeah, but I’m already, like…
251 00:22:09.710 ⇒ 00:22:11.260 Henry Zhao: Doing the preparatory work.
252 00:22:11.260 ⇒ 00:22:19.849 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think I will… let me create a ticket for me to nag Matt, and I’ll move this one to the next cycle, because this is.
253 00:22:19.850 ⇒ 00:22:21.899 Henry Zhao: So you don’t have to bother him yet, because I just told him recently.
254 00:22:21.900 ⇒ 00:22:22.320 Amber Lin: Okay.
255 00:22:22.510 ⇒ 00:22:23.750 Henry Zhao: I’m just gonna be looking at.
256 00:22:24.120 ⇒ 00:22:31.550 Amber Lin: Gotcha. So, I don’t think that’s gonna get done this week. He is not gonna be able to update it so quickly.
257 00:22:31.550 ⇒ 00:22:32.050 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
258 00:22:34.010 ⇒ 00:22:40.589 Henry Zhao: But that’s why I wanted to do this attribution stuff as quickly as possible, because I knew there was gonna be stuff like this that’s gonna…
259 00:22:41.340 ⇒ 00:22:42.410 Henry Zhao: Draw the timeline.
260 00:22:42.960 ⇒ 00:22:43.520 Amber Lin: Yeah.
261 00:22:44.010 ⇒ 00:22:44.890 Amber Lin: Okay.
262 00:22:45.450 ⇒ 00:22:56.089 Henry Zhao: But it’s a lot of parallel stuff, you know what I mean? So it’s like, while they’re fixing it, I’m still, like, working on the stitching, so that when they do fix it, all they need to do is fix it, and then the data starts flowing in properly.
263 00:22:56.470 ⇒ 00:23:00.460 Henry Zhao: Okay. We don’t want to do these one after the other, it needs to be parallel to be quicker.
264 00:23:01.030 ⇒ 00:23:04.680 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay, awesome, so we have less… we have less stuff here.
265 00:23:04.950 ⇒ 00:23:05.340 Henry Zhao: Exactly.
266 00:23:05.340 ⇒ 00:23:05.960 Amber Lin: So…
267 00:23:05.960 ⇒ 00:23:10.290 Henry Zhao: Each week is gonna look like a lot of points, but it’s more like some stuff is going on simultaneously.
268 00:23:10.290 ⇒ 00:23:23.080 Amber Lin: Yeah, awesome. So I have 4 points, I think that’s manageable. And then, on Zoran’s side, I don’t have updates. I’m gonna… I’m gonna go talk to him in a little bit, but…
269 00:23:23.920 ⇒ 00:23:27.580 Amber Lin: I… have no clue.
270 00:23:27.830 ⇒ 00:23:29.729 Amber Lin: What’s the updates on that side?
271 00:23:29.730 ⇒ 00:23:34.839 Henry Zhao: He just said he pushed something, I have no idea what he pushed, so I marked as later to see what he’s pushing.
272 00:23:34.840 ⇒ 00:23:35.510 Amber Lin: Okay.
273 00:23:35.940 ⇒ 00:23:40.120 Amber Lin: I know we also said… this…
274 00:23:40.520 ⇒ 00:23:43.399 Amber Lin: This one. Oh, is this the one that you just created?
275 00:23:43.400 ⇒ 00:23:44.980 Henry Zhao: Oh, yeah, it might be…
276 00:23:44.980 ⇒ 00:23:45.750 Amber Lin: Okay, yes.
277 00:23:45.750 ⇒ 00:23:47.400 Henry Zhao: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the one. Oh, we found it.
278 00:23:47.400 ⇒ 00:23:50.100 Amber Lin: Okay, who are we assigning it to?
279 00:23:51.990 ⇒ 00:23:57.369 Henry Zhao: I mean, neither Waish or Demlade. Awwish did it for the other dashboard, so he would be… yeah, whoever wants to do this one.
280 00:23:57.620 ⇒ 00:24:05.059 Amber Lin: Let me see… It has 2, 4, 5, 5 points…
281 00:24:05.170 ⇒ 00:24:12.019 Amber Lin: Which has also 5 points. Okay, you guys are equal. Pick, who wants to volunteer.
282 00:24:14.670 ⇒ 00:24:17.010 Henry Zhao: It might be easier for a wage, because he just did it for the other one.
283 00:24:18.160 ⇒ 00:24:20.319 Henry Zhao: But it also might be easier for Demulati, because he…
284 00:24:20.710 ⇒ 00:24:23.119 Henry Zhao: The last change for this, model.
285 00:24:24.540 ⇒ 00:24:26.040 Amber Lin: That doesn’t help.
286 00:24:26.040 ⇒ 00:24:27.429 Henry Zhao: So I guess it’s, you know…
287 00:24:27.430 ⇒ 00:24:28.060 Demilade Agboola: model.
288 00:24:28.350 ⇒ 00:24:32.780 Amber Lin: I’ll put it on the line, because I think he has more… Hours.
289 00:24:33.380 ⇒ 00:24:34.509 Amber Lin: in a ways.
290 00:24:34.680 ⇒ 00:24:35.460 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay.
291 00:24:35.460 ⇒ 00:24:38.120 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, and also I built this initial model, so it’s fine.
292 00:24:38.120 ⇒ 00:24:45.199 Amber Lin: Okay. How many points would this be? How many hours? I know you need to do initial scoping, though, like, 3?
293 00:24:45.200 ⇒ 00:24:45.920 Demilade Agboola: Okay.
294 00:24:46.560 ⇒ 00:24:50.459 Demilade Agboola: Probably say one or two. One or two. Let’s just do two, just to be…
295 00:24:50.460 ⇒ 00:24:51.569 Amber Lin: I see too.
296 00:24:52.010 ⇒ 00:24:52.550 Amber Lin: Okay.
297 00:24:52.550 ⇒ 00:24:53.210 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
298 00:24:56.530 ⇒ 00:24:57.100 Amber Lin: Okay.
299 00:24:57.530 ⇒ 00:25:00.320 Amber Lin: Right.
300 00:25:00.320 ⇒ 00:25:01.650 Demilade Agboola: Is that… is that agenda?
301 00:25:04.260 ⇒ 00:25:04.870 Henry Zhao: Zip block.
302 00:25:04.870 ⇒ 00:25:06.120 Amber Lin: blocking this one?
303 00:25:06.120 ⇒ 00:25:06.840 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
304 00:25:07.270 ⇒ 00:25:07.940 Amber Lin: Okay.
305 00:25:08.690 ⇒ 00:25:11.839 Henry Zhao: Cutter acts like it’s urgent, but Cutter acts like everything is urgent, so…
306 00:25:12.340 ⇒ 00:25:13.130 Amber Lin: Yeah.
307 00:25:13.130 ⇒ 00:25:14.279 Henry Zhao: With a grain of salt, maybe.
308 00:25:16.840 ⇒ 00:25:21.200 Amber Lin: Mark as blocking… 981.
309 00:25:23.690 ⇒ 00:25:24.690 Amber Lin: Alright.
310 00:25:25.650 ⇒ 00:25:31.389 Amber Lin: Sounds good. That is all for now.
311 00:25:31.390 ⇒ 00:25:32.820 Henry Zhao: Yeah, one other thing is, this morning.
312 00:25:33.180 ⇒ 00:25:42.579 Henry Zhao: Last morning, I accidentally broke Tableau, but I think I fixed it. If anyone comes back and says, like, this Tableau dash is broken, just let me know. I should’ve… I think I went through all 40 dashes and…
313 00:25:42.880 ⇒ 00:25:45.790 Henry Zhao: Checked, but… If something went through the cracks, just let me know.
314 00:25:46.470 ⇒ 00:25:47.280 Amber Lin: Okay.
315 00:25:49.160 ⇒ 00:25:52.950 Amber Lin: Oh.
316 00:25:54.040 ⇒ 00:25:55.090 Amber Lin: This is…
317 00:25:55.530 ⇒ 00:25:56.580 Henry Zhao: That’s for me, actually.
318 00:25:56.580 ⇒ 00:26:03.859 Amber Lin: Yeah, I just realized. Let me know if you need help setting up the meeting.
319 00:26:04.640 ⇒ 00:26:05.570 Henry Zhao: Okay, thank you.
320 00:26:06.010 ⇒ 00:26:07.480 Amber Lin: Yeah. Alright.
321 00:26:07.960 ⇒ 00:26:17.179 Amber Lin: Awish, can you stay on? I want to talk to you about Remo. I know we haven’t been on it as much, but Eden’s side is done, but I want to talk about Remo.
322 00:26:19.230 ⇒ 00:26:19.880 Amber Lin: Okay.
323 00:26:21.690 ⇒ 00:26:22.789 Robert Tseng: Okay, thanks guys.
324 00:26:23.280 ⇒ 00:26:23.770 Amber Lin: Yep.
325 00:26:23.770 ⇒ 00:26:24.410 Demilade Agboola: Trust.
326 00:26:27.630 ⇒ 00:26:31.589 Amber Lin: Okay, let me pull up your Notion…
327 00:26:31.630 ⇒ 00:26:33.050 Awaish Kumar: Fuck.
328 00:26:38.990 ⇒ 00:26:43.019 Amber Lin: And then… okay, where is it?
329 00:26:43.720 ⇒ 00:26:47.029 Amber Lin: 10… External client.
330 00:26:47.530 ⇒ 00:26:49.660 Amber Lin: Wait, where is the Remo one?
331 00:26:50.190 ⇒ 00:26:54.969 Amber Lin: I checked in the external and internal channels. Where’s the Notion doc that you sent?
332 00:26:59.590 ⇒ 00:27:02.070 Amber Lin: Is it in Marketing Analytics?
333 00:27:03.780 ⇒ 00:27:05.990 Amber Lin: It is in Marketing Analytics.
334 00:27:06.400 ⇒ 00:27:07.130 Amber Lin: Okay.
335 00:27:07.450 ⇒ 00:27:11.599 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, because the one I shared is not for removal, it’s…
336 00:27:11.600 ⇒ 00:27:12.930 Amber Lin: It’s for the evening.
337 00:27:13.460 ⇒ 00:27:17.519 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay. Then I’ll skip those.
338 00:27:17.950 ⇒ 00:27:18.980 Amber Lin: We’re remote.
339 00:27:18.980 ⇒ 00:27:24.810 Awaish Kumar: So, what I… what I’m saying in that talk, like, there are 3 workers’ teams.
340 00:27:24.830 ⇒ 00:27:26.869 Amber Lin: We are working on, right now.
341 00:27:26.870 ⇒ 00:27:36.110 Awaish Kumar: And we are confusing them together, with each other, right? Right? We are in a meeting, like, with Rayon, and he’s talking about
342 00:27:36.610 ⇒ 00:27:42.920 Awaish Kumar: Something, like, which… which we don’t want to talk about, or maybe we have a different meeting for that.
343 00:27:43.520 ⇒ 00:27:54.830 Awaish Kumar: So that’s why I clarified that there are three work streams. One is purely related to support the development of the demo platform.
344 00:27:54.830 ⇒ 00:27:58.570 Amber Lin: Yeah, and the other ones are, like, migrating to Remo, that’s related.
345 00:27:58.570 ⇒ 00:28:16.549 Awaish Kumar: That’s for Remo, we can keep that within us, like you, me, and Surf, and the remote team. Then there is data migration, and the data pipelines migration task projects. We can add them as projects in our Eden
346 00:28:16.890 ⇒ 00:28:25.980 Awaish Kumar: project, like, Aiden client, like, engineer, and we might have, then, tickets coming in, and we can then assign, like, to me.
347 00:28:27.160 ⇒ 00:28:29.470 Amber Lin: that. I can do that.
348 00:28:29.950 ⇒ 00:28:32.240 Amber Lin: Want to check on free mode, though?
349 00:28:32.240 ⇒ 00:28:36.630 Awaish Kumar: I mean… For that, I already sent a message in Manager’s channel as well.
350 00:28:36.870 ⇒ 00:28:44.880 Awaish Kumar: Like, what I was trying to say is that We, like, this data migration.
351 00:28:45.200 ⇒ 00:28:54.850 Awaish Kumar: do we wanna do that in our current scope, right? Like, maybe we wanna do that, but it can be a case for upsell that,
352 00:28:55.100 ⇒ 00:29:06.700 Awaish Kumar: We are helping them with migration of that platform, right? So, we are not just helping them with the reporting, right? We will get data from Remo, whenever
353 00:29:06.810 ⇒ 00:29:25.030 Awaish Kumar: the new data comes in, and we will replace the Basque with Remo, get the data, do the analytics. That’s one kind of thing. Second thing is, we are also helping there with migrating data from Bask to Remo, right? That’s, like, another project, right?
354 00:29:25.030 ⇒ 00:29:38.100 Awaish Kumar: we, like, all the data which is available in operational database, in the bus operational database, we have to now put all of that in Remo’s operational database.
355 00:29:39.670 ⇒ 00:29:49.410 Amber Lin: Yeah, understood. I… I want to check on Remo, because I know we have not gotten started yet. I have not heard anything from Surf,
356 00:29:51.480 ⇒ 00:29:53.650 Amber Lin: does… I know Eden…
357 00:29:53.790 ⇒ 00:30:02.519 Amber Lin: can be slow on giving access, but does Surf… what really does Surf need to get started? He has access to the
358 00:30:02.900 ⇒ 00:30:05.709 Amber Lin: I already tagged him.
359 00:30:05.800 ⇒ 00:30:13.170 Awaish Kumar: I tagged him where the schema is, and I think you already tagged him with the documents. Yeah. But then now, what the…
360 00:30:13.680 ⇒ 00:30:17.310 Awaish Kumar: I think what we should do is basically,
361 00:30:17.700 ⇒ 00:30:23.749 Awaish Kumar: First of all, should get access of the database and the codebase.
362 00:30:23.880 ⇒ 00:30:26.690 Awaish Kumar: when I get out, from Cameron.
363 00:30:27.000 ⇒ 00:30:31.169 Awaish Kumar: a fusser, like, we maybe… we can ask him, like, we may have a…
364 00:30:31.830 ⇒ 00:30:48.640 Awaish Kumar: email, like, we have for Eden, like, Eden. We have Eden at brainforge.ai, right? And using that email, we are getting all the credentials for Eden. Now, we might create a similar thing, like Remo at, brainforge.ai, and ask,
365 00:30:48.960 ⇒ 00:30:52.340 Awaish Kumar: Cameron, to give access to the GitHub and the…
366 00:30:53.190 ⇒ 00:30:55.739 Amber Lin: The camera’s gonna be really slow.
367 00:30:55.740 ⇒ 00:30:59.640 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, we have to ask him, because he’s the only lead developer.
368 00:31:00.160 ⇒ 00:31:03.870 Amber Lin: Could we ask Surf to use our Eden account?
369 00:31:04.550 ⇒ 00:31:07.470 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, but we don’t have access to these things.
370 00:31:07.470 ⇒ 00:31:08.050 Amber Lin: Oh.
371 00:31:08.050 ⇒ 00:31:13.079 Awaish Kumar: This is the first time. We have access to… what I said was just an example.
372 00:31:13.240 ⇒ 00:31:32.680 Awaish Kumar: that I… we can create a similar email, and whatever we want to get the credentials for, we can ask them to give to that email, for example, access to database. If Surf gets access, I won’t be able to access it. So if we have some shared account, we can easily share it between us. Yes.
373 00:31:32.680 ⇒ 00:31:33.570 Amber Lin: Makes sense.
374 00:31:33.780 ⇒ 00:31:50.690 Awaish Kumar: Second thing is access to GitHub, so whatever code he wrote, like, he can give access to me. I already shared my GitHub account, and then we can ask for surf as well. Maybe ask Surf about his GitHub handle, and then I can share with him.
375 00:31:50.690 ⇒ 00:31:57.190 Awaish Kumar: And once he has the access to GitHub and the database, he can restart with the
376 00:31:57.590 ⇒ 00:32:03.510 Awaish Kumar: Deliverable. I don’t know, we never had the kickoff meeting. I don’t know when are we going to have a
377 00:32:03.640 ⇒ 00:32:04.940 Awaish Kumar: with the client.
378 00:32:05.660 ⇒ 00:32:09.990 Amber Lin: I need… sorry, this… my bad, I’ve been lagging on that.
379 00:32:10.660 ⇒ 00:32:18.539 Amber Lin: I need to get the access… so, right now, you can confirm that Surf has access to BigQuery and the schemas.
380 00:32:19.390 ⇒ 00:32:24.070 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, first of all, First, like, the first of all, our…
381 00:32:24.220 ⇒ 00:32:30.359 Awaish Kumar: we want to kick this off, so Raymo knows that we already started
382 00:32:30.520 ⇒ 00:32:33.080 Awaish Kumar: And they have to pay it… pay us for this one.
383 00:32:36.840 ⇒ 00:32:46.440 Amber Lin: Sorry, I was asking for the access. I know we’ve… we’ve already started the timeline. For the BigQuery and the schemas, does Surf have access to that?
384 00:32:50.490 ⇒ 00:32:54.000 Awaish Kumar: serve as access to the schema, but that
385 00:32:54.130 ⇒ 00:33:04.170 Awaish Kumar: schema, they just shared the… some downloaded files, and I already shared it with Surf. What I’m saying is we need access to their actual database now.
386 00:33:04.650 ⇒ 00:33:07.000 Amber Lin: Do you know what database they use?
387 00:33:07.560 ⇒ 00:33:12.189 Awaish Kumar: I don’t know. Maybe Post… maybe they are using Postgres, but I don’t know exactly.
388 00:33:12.190 ⇒ 00:33:13.480 Amber Lin: Okay, okay.
389 00:33:14.340 ⇒ 00:33:17.080 Amber Lin: Let’s see…
390 00:33:17.690 ⇒ 00:33:22.659 Awaish Kumar: Like, maybe we can… Have a proper, like.
391 00:33:23.380 ⇒ 00:33:29.939 Awaish Kumar: kick off. So, Surf knows, like, he has to now start. Then we can ask for credentials, and
392 00:33:30.090 ⇒ 00:33:32.359 Awaish Kumar: Set up a meeting between all of us.
393 00:33:32.590 ⇒ 00:33:39.670 Awaish Kumar: And, and then we can expect Surf to actually deliver changes as…
394 00:33:39.670 ⇒ 00:33:48.750 Amber Lin: Yes. What is the first deliverable, that we need? I think we… we said we want to have the architecture assessment.
395 00:33:48.960 ⇒ 00:33:51.960 Amber Lin: Or, like, the DBA Infra report?
396 00:33:54.430 ⇒ 00:33:56.320 Amber Lin: That’s what we want first, right?
397 00:33:56.980 ⇒ 00:34:04.350 Awaish Kumar: We want first is, yeah, architecture assessment outline here.
398 00:34:05.010 ⇒ 00:34:06.050 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay.
399 00:34:06.230 ⇒ 00:34:06.980 Amber Lin: Okay.
400 00:34:07.090 ⇒ 00:34:15.689 Amber Lin: So… sorry, I’ve been late on this, so I will… I’ll take ownership of that. And then…
401 00:34:16.909 ⇒ 00:34:28.539 Amber Lin: So, starting… we essentially have 2 months. For the 2 months, we have 10K total. Are you going to spend any time here, or is this all surf on the remote engagement?
402 00:34:30.520 ⇒ 00:34:37.010 Awaish Kumar: What I discussed with Utam also in this lab yesterday, it’s mostly, like.
403 00:34:37.449 ⇒ 00:34:42.230 Awaish Kumar: like, Cameron will be… or Surf will be there to…
404 00:34:43.190 ⇒ 00:34:50.070 Awaish Kumar: To support everything, like, as a lead developer, he will be building… making the assessment and the documentation.
405 00:34:51.260 ⇒ 00:34:54.210 Awaish Kumar: I would be just part of… the…
406 00:34:54.500 ⇒ 00:35:02.040 Awaish Kumar: part of the meetings, for the… for the initial, I will just be part of the… team to…
407 00:35:02.510 ⇒ 00:35:15.409 Awaish Kumar: see things are moving, and on the technical side, if there are any concerns to the heating team, and we don’t have Chef there, like, to answer things when maybe Chef is not there to answer it.
408 00:35:19.430 ⇒ 00:35:25.989 Awaish Kumar: And then maybe, like, maybe ask some… I can, yeah, also review what is coming from Surf.
409 00:35:27.650 ⇒ 00:35:33.650 Awaish Kumar: like, we have an architecture diagram, and I can review it first before it goes to Eden, maybe.
410 00:35:34.100 ⇒ 00:35:38.049 Awaish Kumar: I don’t know, if that’s required or not, but that’s…
411 00:35:38.050 ⇒ 00:35:56.720 Amber Lin: I think it’s best that we just took a… take a quick look, because you never know, some people, like, how they work or how they communicate. Okay, so I assume you would not be involved as heavily as CERF? I imagine CERF would be, like, 10 to 15 hours per week.
412 00:35:56.720 ⇒ 00:35:57.310 Awaish Kumar: We can do a…
413 00:35:57.310 ⇒ 00:35:57.680 Amber Lin: be like.
414 00:35:57.680 ⇒ 00:35:58.720 Awaish Kumar: I was on…
415 00:35:58.720 ⇒ 00:35:59.180 Amber Lin: 2…
416 00:35:59.180 ⇒ 00:36:02.160 Awaish Kumar: herself, I’m… I’m not.
417 00:36:02.610 ⇒ 00:36:03.310 Amber Lin: Okay.
418 00:36:03.620 ⇒ 00:36:10.060 Amber Lin: Okay, so if we end up having, let’s say… .
419 00:36:10.200 ⇒ 00:36:13.159 Awaish Kumar: And when, yeah, but for the… maybe…
420 00:36:13.510 ⇒ 00:36:18.219 Awaish Kumar: for the sprint number 6, I may be involved much more.
421 00:36:18.410 ⇒ 00:36:21.590 Awaish Kumar: When it comes to… yeah, for 5 and 6.
422 00:36:22.290 ⇒ 00:36:26.049 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Let me go find…
423 00:36:26.270 ⇒ 00:36:29.140 Awaish Kumar: It’s still, it’s still,
424 00:36:29.210 ⇒ 00:36:48.470 Awaish Kumar: like, Serf is the lead developer, but I may be involved more in giving him the information, what Aiden has, what does the current structure look like, and also I can review that work, basically, because I can see how data… data warehousing schema he’s suggesting, how it can be supported.
425 00:36:48.470 ⇒ 00:36:49.020 Amber Lin: Yes.
426 00:36:49.020 ⇒ 00:36:59.039 Awaish Kumar: I can… I will be spending more time on that part, but before that, I will be basically mostly handling the engagement and communicating… communication with you.
427 00:36:59.040 ⇒ 00:37:06.770 Amber Lin: I see. If he ends up spending… say, we have… like, 8 weeks?
428 00:37:06.900 ⇒ 00:37:16.699 Amber Lin: And each week he spends, 15 hours, that’s gonna cost us more than what we’re gonna earn.
429 00:37:19.910 ⇒ 00:37:20.850 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
430 00:37:21.090 ⇒ 00:37:22.240 Amber Lin: Yeah.
431 00:37:22.420 ⇒ 00:37:32.450 Amber Lin: He is not cheap. Even… even if, say, you spent, like, 5… like, 3 hours per week, and then 5…
432 00:37:32.450 ⇒ 00:37:37.419 Awaish Kumar: Like, let’s see, 3… 3 into 8.
433 00:37:37.420 ⇒ 00:37:38.500 Amber Lin: Times 8 is…
434 00:37:38.500 ⇒ 00:37:39.390 Awaish Kumar: Thank you for…
435 00:37:39.850 ⇒ 00:37:41.290 Amber Lin: the 24.
436 00:37:41.450 ⇒ 00:37:50.019 Amber Lin: Like, I… I… we cannot have him spending 120 hours. We… we will take a loss on this project.
437 00:37:52.140 ⇒ 00:37:56.799 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, maybe we… We can,
438 00:37:58.880 ⇒ 00:38:10.890 Awaish Kumar: just go… like, is everything in linear? We can go in and maybe try to, like, reduce some points, some things and some things.
439 00:38:11.120 ⇒ 00:38:19.050 Awaish Kumar: And then, after that, we can ask Surf to basically Aye.
440 00:38:20.040 ⇒ 00:38:29.579 Awaish Kumar: Like, review the tickets and estimation, and if he agrees with everything, then, yeah, then that way we can maybe…
441 00:38:29.760 ⇒ 00:38:32.280 Awaish Kumar: At least bring it down to…
442 00:38:32.610 ⇒ 00:38:33.730 Amber Lin: Yeah, let’s…
443 00:38:33.730 ⇒ 00:38:34.620 Awaish Kumar: nonetheless.
444 00:38:34.620 ⇒ 00:38:38.770 Amber Lin: Yeah, let’s… let’s see how much… We need…
445 00:38:38.910 ⇒ 00:38:41.750 Awaish Kumar: Maybe if we just say…
446 00:38:42.310 ⇒ 00:38:47.790 Amber Lin: Let’s say he spends, like, 100? No, we stole.
447 00:38:47.790 ⇒ 00:38:48.600 Awaish Kumar: Fantastic.
448 00:38:48.600 ⇒ 00:38:49.440 Amber Lin: 80.
449 00:38:51.210 ⇒ 00:38:51.909 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I understand.
450 00:38:51.910 ⇒ 00:38:55.009 Amber Lin: 80, we can. Okay, 10 hours each week.
451 00:38:55.270 ⇒ 00:38:57.750 Amber Lin: We can survive. Like, barely.
452 00:38:58.000 ⇒ 00:38:59.749 Amber Lin: I can barely make something.
453 00:39:01.340 ⇒ 00:39:05.630 Amber Lin: Oh, That’s still very awful.
454 00:39:07.650 ⇒ 00:39:15.949 Amber Lin: Like, if we wanted to make… it’s not possible that he works 5 hours a week and get this done in 8 weeks. Like, it’s just not possible.
455 00:39:16.970 ⇒ 00:39:28.129 Amber Lin: Is anything here related to, like, the other two work streams, like the data migration? If it’s related, we can move it over to there.
456 00:39:30.000 ⇒ 00:39:35.040 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, there’s nothing related to migration, like, we wanna help them with,
457 00:39:35.360 ⇒ 00:39:38.009 Awaish Kumar: With their… all their stuff, right?
458 00:39:38.010 ⇒ 00:39:38.860 Amber Lin: Okay.
459 00:39:39.100 ⇒ 00:39:46.590 Amber Lin: Based on… just based on your quick view, do you know… do you know if any of these are less necessary?
460 00:39:47.050 ⇒ 00:39:56.700 Amber Lin: Or I can… we can grab time with Surf and tell them, hey, you only have 10 hours per week, you have 80 hours total, what do you need to take out to get this done?
461 00:39:59.700 ⇒ 00:40:05.429 Awaish Kumar: Like, but we have, like, we also have to take care of what we have agreed with the remote, what are.
462 00:40:05.430 ⇒ 00:40:06.020 Amber Lin: I know.
463 00:40:06.020 ⇒ 00:40:18.179 Awaish Kumar: Maybe what we signed with them. Maybe we can look back at that document, and we can just keep our focus on that, and remove any extra things we added.
464 00:40:18.360 ⇒ 00:40:27.019 Amber Lin: Okay, review, sign, contract… With remote and confirm deliverables.
465 00:40:27.250 ⇒ 00:40:29.460 Amber Lin: Make sure…
466 00:40:32.460 ⇒ 00:40:40.040 Amber Lin: Make sure that… We get… Now, I’ve got those…
467 00:40:40.820 ⇒ 00:40:45.070 Amber Lin: Surf cap at 8 hours total.
468 00:40:47.890 ⇒ 00:40:48.480 Awaish Kumar: Nope.
469 00:40:49.610 ⇒ 00:40:50.200 Amber Lin: Okay.
470 00:40:51.310 ⇒ 00:40:54.230 Amber Lin: Alright, and I’m gonna spend, like…
471 00:40:54.750 ⇒ 00:40:59.849 Amber Lin: Ugh, even if I spend 5, we’re gonna start… okay, I’m just gonna spend 10 total.
472 00:41:00.170 ⇒ 00:41:02.070 Amber Lin: It’s like an hour or something each week.
473 00:41:02.070 ⇒ 00:41:06.690 Awaish Kumar: Maybe I can also cap it to… 2 hours per week.
474 00:41:07.180 ⇒ 00:41:07.630 Amber Lin: 2 hours.
475 00:41:07.630 ⇒ 00:41:09.409 Awaish Kumar: Every week? 16.
476 00:41:09.710 ⇒ 00:41:10.470 Amber Lin: Okay.
477 00:41:11.830 ⇒ 00:41:14.220 Amber Lin: Yeah, surf is the big spender.
478 00:41:15.090 ⇒ 00:41:20.470 Awaish Kumar: We are all… Yeah. He’s the one doing the work, yeah.
479 00:41:20.810 ⇒ 00:41:27.770 Amber Lin: We’re not really helping, I’m just gonna try and do less. Okay, we’ll be… we’ll have quick meetings then.
480 00:41:28.180 ⇒ 00:41:34.680 Amber Lin: Alright, so, action item, I’m gonna… do we have a remote at Brainforge email yet? If not, I’ll ask.
481 00:41:34.680 ⇒ 00:41:35.810 Awaish Kumar: No, we don’t, we don’t.
482 00:41:36.170 ⇒ 00:41:46.690 Amber Lin: Okay, gotcha. Ask CRI code, create a remote… Rain Forge email.
483 00:41:48.380 ⇒ 00:41:54.569 Awaish Kumar: And, like, we are not that a big, big team, like, if Cameron can give us access to both of me and…
484 00:41:55.190 ⇒ 00:41:59.000 Awaish Kumar: And Surf, it’s also… it also works, because…
485 00:41:59.670 ⇒ 00:42:03.159 Awaish Kumar: We’re not a, like, a 10-people team, but I don’t know.
486 00:42:03.320 ⇒ 00:42:05.260 Awaish Kumar: about Cameron, how even…
487 00:42:05.710 ⇒ 00:42:13.660 Amber Lin: Oh, he is so slow, I don’t… I have no clue. Book… Kick off meeting…
488 00:42:13.830 ⇒ 00:42:16.490 Amber Lin: Confirm hours with surf.
489 00:42:16.900 ⇒ 00:42:21.000 Amber Lin: The larvals… get…
490 00:42:23.980 ⇒ 00:42:24.910 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
491 00:42:26.260 ⇒ 00:42:26.640 Amber Lin: Okay.
492 00:42:26.640 ⇒ 00:42:40.710 Awaish Kumar: So, once you are done with point number one, maybe give me also an example. I can also go in linear and see the estimations and points, and after that, we can…
493 00:42:40.850 ⇒ 00:42:42.010 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, this one.
494 00:42:42.320 ⇒ 00:42:47.890 Amber Lin: This signed contract, is it in Notion, or is it, like, a PDF that we’ve.
495 00:42:47.890 ⇒ 00:42:51.270 Awaish Kumar: I don’t know. Set them aside. Yeah, Robert signed with them.
496 00:42:51.270 ⇒ 00:42:53.109 Amber Lin: Okay, let me end.
497 00:42:53.880 ⇒ 00:42:58.290 Amber Lin: Ask Robert for contract.
498 00:42:58.500 ⇒ 00:43:03.429 Amber Lin: Okay, I am going to go do that today. Oh…
499 00:43:03.430 ⇒ 00:43:10.190 Awaish Kumar: And then I can look at, also, linear today, if we can, like, best of our knowledge, we can…
500 00:43:10.390 ⇒ 00:43:19.829 Awaish Kumar: Can I, like, make it better, and then we can ask Surf to also review it, and give us a reply by tomorrow, maybe, yeah.
501 00:43:19.830 ⇒ 00:43:27.580 Amber Lin: Okay, okay, sounds good. I will do all of that today.
502 00:43:28.150 ⇒ 00:43:31.309 Amber Lin: Alright. Who needs to be at kickoff? Cameron and Ryan?
503 00:43:32.710 ⇒ 00:43:36.250 Awaish Kumar: Cameron, Ryan… You mean that?
504 00:43:36.250 ⇒ 00:43:37.900 Amber Lin: It’s the main persons.
505 00:43:37.900 ⇒ 00:43:40.900 Awaish Kumar: And, okay.
506 00:43:41.740 ⇒ 00:43:45.640 Awaish Kumar: Like, their boss was someone, like.
507 00:43:46.110 ⇒ 00:43:48.040 Awaish Kumar: What was her name? Like, Adam, right?
508 00:43:48.040 ⇒ 00:43:48.830 Amber Lin: mid, mid, mid…
509 00:43:48.830 ⇒ 00:43:49.610 Awaish Kumar: I don’t come through.
510 00:43:49.610 ⇒ 00:43:59.239 Amber Lin: Adam? I don’t… I don’t know. They’ll… they’ll invite him or Adam. I’m not sure if it’s Adam McBride or Adam from the remote, from, like, the…
511 00:43:59.600 ⇒ 00:44:00.470 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, yeah.
512 00:44:01.530 ⇒ 00:44:03.149 Awaish Kumar: Item T, I think.
513 00:44:06.150 ⇒ 00:44:10.430 Amber Lin: Okay, I will tentatively put Adam there, and…
514 00:44:11.760 ⇒ 00:44:14.089 Amber Lin: What would we do in the kickoff?
515 00:44:15.230 ⇒ 00:44:18.790 Amber Lin: I was thinking that we confirm deliverables.
516 00:44:19.160 ⇒ 00:44:27.609 Amber Lin: Tell them service confirmed timeline. Nag them on any access that we haven’t got yet.
517 00:44:29.220 ⇒ 00:44:30.170 Awaish Kumar: Correct.
518 00:44:30.280 ⇒ 00:44:35.580 Amber Lin: Okay, the meeting’s gonna be so hard to book, because service is only available in the afternoon.
519 00:44:35.960 ⇒ 00:44:36.800 Amber Lin: Okay.
520 00:44:37.390 ⇒ 00:44:38.300 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
521 00:44:38.300 ⇒ 00:44:45.010 Amber Lin: Sounds good, I will go do these. I’m horribly late on these, I apologize. I’ll hopefully get this off today.
522 00:44:45.540 ⇒ 00:44:47.099 Awaish Kumar: Okay, no worries, thank you.
523 00:44:47.290 ⇒ 00:44:48.850 Amber Lin: Alright, thanks, bye.