Meeting Title: Try Eden Data Tracking Sync Date: 2025-09-23 Meeting participants: Zoran Selinger, Henry Zhao
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1 00:04:22.860 ⇒ 00:04:24.580 Henry Zhao: Hey, Siran, how’s it going?
2 00:04:25.080 ⇒ 00:04:28.340 Zoran Selinger: Hi, Annie. Yeah, good, good.
3 00:04:28.340 ⇒ 00:04:28.890 Henry Zhao: better?
4 00:04:29.700 ⇒ 00:04:34.860 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, figuring things out, having all kinds of conversations today.
5 00:04:34.860 ⇒ 00:04:35.370 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
6 00:04:35.370 ⇒ 00:04:37.100 Zoran Selinger: Multiple people.
7 00:04:37.100 ⇒ 00:04:39.259 Henry Zhao: Was I right when I told you this client is intense?
8 00:04:39.430 ⇒ 00:04:43.270 Henry Zhao: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. I was not just meter since then.
9 00:04:43.270 ⇒ 00:04:55.589 Zoran Selinger: And I did say that to them yesterday in the call. I said, there’s so much going on with you. So many things at the same time.
10 00:04:55.590 ⇒ 00:05:01.400 Henry Zhao: It keeps us employed, which I really could use right now to get the hours.
11 00:05:02.110 ⇒ 00:05:06.469 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah. And so is… what did you say?
12 00:05:07.020 ⇒ 00:05:10.599 Henry Zhao: I’d say it’s good to have all this work, so that… because I need the hours anyway, so…
13 00:05:10.600 ⇒ 00:05:12.369 Zoran Selinger: Oh, yeah, it’s good, good.
14 00:05:12.610 ⇒ 00:05:15.920 Zoran Selinger: Cool, yeah, so, I…
15 00:05:16.670 ⇒ 00:05:19.630 Henry Zhao: Did comment on basically everything in…
16 00:05:19.630 ⇒ 00:05:21.749 Zoran Selinger: In linear, already.
17 00:05:21.750 ⇒ 00:05:25.050 Henry Zhao: I don’t know if you had a chance to look.
18 00:05:25.050 ⇒ 00:05:32.530 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, I was looking at the agenda there, and kind of wanted to do that. Yeah.
19 00:05:32.640 ⇒ 00:05:34.390 Zoran Selinger: Where do you wanna start?
20 00:05:35.220 ⇒ 00:05:43.100 Henry Zhao: So first, okay, let’s just start piece by piece. We have a million things to go over today, so thank you for your time. Alright, piece by piece.
21 00:05:44.030 ⇒ 00:05:50.300 Henry Zhao: So… First thing is… Let’s go over this one. Okay.
22 00:05:50.430 ⇒ 00:05:53.599 Zoran Selinger: So, we’re still trying to understand what we see in North Beam.
23 00:05:53.820 ⇒ 00:05:59.509 Henry Zhao: Can you give me a little bit of extra context, on what’s going here?
24 00:05:59.710 ⇒ 00:06:05.840 Henry Zhao: So one thing is, we’re not very sure where a lot of our data comes from, and we’re trying to be better on documenting that.
25 00:06:07.330 ⇒ 00:06:08.410 Zoran Selinger: Yes.
26 00:06:09.810 ⇒ 00:06:13.740 Zoran Selinger: So that… I’m just trying to understand what I’m seeing.
27 00:06:13.740 ⇒ 00:06:38.329 Zoran Selinger: in NordBeam. Basically, we have… we have orders coming, kind of two different ways. One is Pixel, one is Order API. This is, at least I haven’t found anything that’s documented there, but we, from their customer support that we… Stuart has an open conversation that… where he CC’d me, and now I started communicating with… with NordBeam directly.
28 00:06:38.330 ⇒ 00:06:42.040 Zoran Selinger: in the… in the email thread.
29 00:06:42.150 ⇒ 00:06:45.680 Zoran Selinger: Actually, what they expect. They expect…
30 00:06:45.990 ⇒ 00:06:50.859 Zoran Selinger: an order API, order to come for every pixel.
31 00:06:51.180 ⇒ 00:06:52.930 Zoran Selinger: Order that they see.
32 00:06:52.930 ⇒ 00:06:53.940 Henry Zhao: price.
33 00:06:54.090 ⇒ 00:06:58.219 Zoran Selinger: I did not know that. I haven’t read it anywhere,
34 00:06:58.940 ⇒ 00:07:08.690 Zoran Selinger: so I wasn’t aware, so this is why they have one of the, one filter that they have on Norbim is pixel only.
35 00:07:08.690 ⇒ 00:07:19.570 Zoran Selinger: basically, these will be orders that do not have an equivalent coming through the order API. So, basically, now I’m just trying to understand where we have pixel only.
36 00:07:21.360 ⇒ 00:07:41.279 Zoran Selinger: basically, how do we identify users, right? I just want to see, how do we link? How do we link one and the other? You see, even this format of the ID is just weird. There should probably just be a number there.
37 00:07:41.280 ⇒ 00:07:41.760 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
38 00:07:41.760 ⇒ 00:07:44.400 Zoran Selinger: like a Jason’s thing, right?
39 00:07:44.400 ⇒ 00:07:46.120 Henry Zhao: I thought it was this number.
40 00:07:46.930 ⇒ 00:07:48.460 Henry Zhao: Yes, but actually.
41 00:07:48.460 ⇒ 00:07:50.959 Zoran Selinger: I think the value is the whole thing, yeah.
42 00:07:50.960 ⇒ 00:07:51.860 Henry Zhao: Oh, wow, okay.
43 00:07:51.860 ⇒ 00:07:53.140 Zoran Selinger: Yeah. Yeah.
44 00:07:53.360 ⇒ 00:08:02.079 Zoran Selinger: So, there’s a lot of confusion. I don’t understand exactly where data is coming from, and I just want to make sure that I understand
45 00:08:02.480 ⇒ 00:08:06.929 Zoran Selinger: Because it is… a lot of it is obviously undocumented.
46 00:08:10.850 ⇒ 00:08:19.310 Henry Zhao: not just on our side, but I think just the… also NordBeam’s documentation is not super clear, either.
47 00:08:19.640 ⇒ 00:08:29.170 Zoran Selinger: So, but we do have an open conversation with the support, and they do explain things to us, so I’m just gonna…
48 00:08:29.400 ⇒ 00:08:48.070 Zoran Selinger: ask any questions that I can think of to really, truly understand what needs to happen in the tag, and what needs to happen on the order API for these things… two things to work. Because I suspect, and I told that to Stuart yesterday in the call, I suspect this is not as bad as we thought.
49 00:08:48.070 ⇒ 00:08:56.140 Zoran Selinger: So, I don’t think everything inside Norvium right now is, you know, is trash, right? I think.
50 00:08:56.140 ⇒ 00:08:56.720 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
51 00:08:56.720 ⇒ 00:09:08.779 Zoran Selinger: some things are working well, we just need to… we probably need just a few tweaks on both the order API and the pixel, and it will look much, much better.
52 00:09:09.340 ⇒ 00:09:09.840 Zoran Selinger: Perfect.
53 00:09:09.840 ⇒ 00:09:10.300 Henry Zhao: effects.
54 00:09:10.300 ⇒ 00:09:10.820 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
55 00:09:11.760 ⇒ 00:09:19.110 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so that’s where we are with this. So, it’s just, again.
56 00:09:19.900 ⇒ 00:09:34.720 Zoran Selinger: we are still at the phase, or at least I am at the phase, where I’m starting to… where I’m trying to understand where everything is coming from, and obviously, we are all kind of confused, so… but we need to resolve that ASAP.
57 00:09:35.070 ⇒ 00:09:38.840 Henry Zhao: Yeah, so I need to resolve… one thing I need to resolve is where all of our data is coming from.
58 00:09:39.750 ⇒ 00:09:52.830 Henry Zhao: And one thing I wanted to ask is… well, Awash, I asked already, is do we have every page visit coming in via segment, right? Because segment, you’re allowed to put the pixel on tryEden.com, right?
59 00:09:52.830 ⇒ 00:10:00.060 Henry Zhao: And it should be logging every single page visit, and that should be going into BigQuery, so we can do the attribution stitching.
60 00:10:00.520 ⇒ 00:10:19.899 Henry Zhao: Unless you think that that’s going to be done by your edge server edge layer and server-side tracking stuff. So what I’ve done is I’ve created a new dataset called Attribution, and I’ve added this table, UTM Tracking, if you want to start putting stuff in here. This is just the exact schema that you… you sent me last time we met.
61 00:10:20.840 ⇒ 00:10:28.600 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah, of course, of course, so that’s the, that’s the one. Okay, I mean, obviously, I’ll have to get the…
62 00:10:28.600 ⇒ 00:10:43.140 Henry Zhao: in every page visit, or at least the first and last touch, so, like, the first time they visit, and then the time they convert, that’s already better than what we have now, so that way I can look at the referrer, because one thing that I’ve been asked, like, I’m just gonna give you some context on why I’m asking for these things.
63 00:10:43.270 ⇒ 00:10:48.750 Henry Zhao: So this girl named Rebecca, Asked me about…
64 00:10:49.460 ⇒ 00:10:52.209 Henry Zhao: Just to give you context. Christine, actually.
65 00:10:52.400 ⇒ 00:10:56.250 Henry Zhao: She basically set up all these media links.
66 00:10:56.470 ⇒ 00:10:58.920 Henry Zhao: Right? Let’s say, like, on this URL.
67 00:11:00.340 ⇒ 00:11:01.640 Henry Zhao: Let me show you.
68 00:11:02.870 ⇒ 00:11:06.460 Henry Zhao: she basically put Trident on all of these media links, right?
69 00:11:06.870 ⇒ 00:11:09.870 Henry Zhao: So, like, let me post to this article.
70 00:11:10.020 ⇒ 00:11:12.139 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, Adban SEO, okay?
71 00:11:12.290 ⇒ 00:11:14.739 Henry Zhao: The Try Eden link, right? Whatever.
72 00:11:15.640 ⇒ 00:11:18.270 Henry Zhao: Example that I know of. This one is definitely there.
73 00:11:20.220 ⇒ 00:11:23.009 Zoran Selinger: So that’s an SEO person, right, doing just,
74 00:11:24.050 ⇒ 00:11:24.730 Henry Zhao: I don’t know.
75 00:11:25.650 ⇒ 00:11:26.390 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
76 00:11:26.920 ⇒ 00:11:32.310 Henry Zhao: So thanks for explaining the organic search stuff. I told them that it’s not doable, so now they can just use the dash that I have.
77 00:11:32.630 ⇒ 00:11:33.430 Zoran Selinger: Nope.
78 00:11:34.510 ⇒ 00:11:36.990 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah, I just…
79 00:11:37.780 ⇒ 00:11:50.340 Zoran Selinger: That’s what I suspect… is suspected, and yeah, I mean, but it’s understandable. It’s very, very valuable data, so it’s just not gonna give it to you for free.
80 00:11:52.060 ⇒ 00:11:55.110 Henry Zhao: There’s not even a link in here, so I don’t know what she’s saying.
81 00:11:56.010 ⇒ 00:11:57.160 Henry Zhao: Unless this is the link.
82 00:11:57.920 ⇒ 00:12:00.399 Zoran Selinger: Okay, so, alright, so that’s…
83 00:12:00.600 ⇒ 00:12:06.620 Henry Zhao: Basically, what I’m trying to say is, she put in all these links for… for Tri-Eden into these, like,
84 00:12:07.280 ⇒ 00:12:11.690 Henry Zhao: these websites, and she wants to know if it’s bringing any traffic, but she didn’t set up any UTMs.
85 00:12:11.880 ⇒ 00:12:18.150 Henry Zhao: So I’m hoping that this referrer will be able to tell me if these links are bringing any traffic.
86 00:12:18.330 ⇒ 00:12:27.609 Zoran Selinger: I mean, you have a referral… you should have a referral report in just GA4, just standard implementation of GA4.
87 00:12:27.820 ⇒ 00:12:31.619 Henry Zhao: That’s a good idea. I’ll check J4 for that. Yeah, yeah, you should find it there.
88 00:12:31.820 ⇒ 00:12:34.579 Henry Zhao: That should be in the events table, so it’s,
89 00:12:35.310 ⇒ 00:12:45.550 Henry Zhao: Okay, that’s a good idea, I’ll check that in the meantime. But either way, I think eventually we want a lot of… all the page views to be in this table, right, for example? That way we can do the stitching.
90 00:12:45.950 ⇒ 00:12:50.549 Zoran Selinger: Cool, Henny, let me just pause you there. I’ll be back with you in a minute, okay?
91 00:12:50.550 ⇒ 00:12:51.629 Henry Zhao: Oh, yeah.
92 00:13:44.960 ⇒ 00:13:46.820 Zoran Selinger: Sorry about that, continue.
93 00:13:47.920 ⇒ 00:13:52.790 Henry Zhao: One second, so… I don’t know what this is.
94 00:13:53.610 ⇒ 00:14:04.400 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so you asked me about Segment. I haven’t even logged in there, I haven’t… I’m not looking into anything currently on Segment at all.
95 00:14:05.580 ⇒ 00:14:07.950 Henry Zhao: Yeah, that’s fine. Let me ask this question to Awash first.
96 00:14:25.580 ⇒ 00:14:35.389 Henry Zhao: So my question is, first of all, Awisha said that he’s worked a little with J4, and there are some page view events flowing into BigQuery through J4. I don’t know what some page view events mean.
97 00:14:35.620 ⇒ 00:14:36.310 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
98 00:14:37.230 ⇒ 00:14:38.070 Zoran Selinger: Yep.
99 00:14:47.670 ⇒ 00:14:51.749 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I just want to get a better understanding of this, and I know I can figure this out myself, but…
100 00:14:52.320 ⇒ 00:14:54.209 Henry Zhao: I’m in a crunch for time, so…
101 00:14:54.450 ⇒ 00:15:00.030 Henry Zhao: I’m also wondering, like, if the second snippet is not properly installed, because they have this reminder on the top.
102 00:15:01.530 ⇒ 00:15:04.160 Henry Zhao: But basically, eventually, I just want to have
103 00:15:04.610 ⇒ 00:15:15.519 Henry Zhao: all the page visits, or if not all, at least the first and last touch, into this UTM tracking so that we can stitch it by whatever identifier you think is the best, whether it’s hash IP,
104 00:15:16.170 ⇒ 00:15:30.479 Henry Zhao: or some pseudo-user ID, or some anonymous ID from segment, to say, like, this is people’s first touch, this is people’s last touch, and these are the referrers they’re coming from, and just have an easy way to do that, instead of either going to J4 or going to segment, and they all don’t match, you know what I mean?
105 00:15:30.480 ⇒ 00:15:43.519 Zoran Selinger: Oh, okay, so let me just stop you there and just want to clarify something. So these tables… this table is not a list of pages. It’s basically a list of
106 00:15:43.650 ⇒ 00:15:47.809 Zoran Selinger: new sessions, really. Sorry, give me a second.
107 00:15:54.990 ⇒ 00:16:13.470 Zoran Selinger: Sorry, I misunderstood you. My… my daughter’s still here, we are still at home. She… she’s going… she’s going to her class right now, but the neighbor’s taking her, instead of me, so I’m… I’m actually at home. I thought our meeting was half an hour later, so,
108 00:16:14.740 ⇒ 00:16:28.959 Zoran Selinger: She’s going now, so I’ll be… I’ll be alone. Go ahead. So, yeah, so I was explaining, so the idea of this, so you will get a row for every new session, okay?
109 00:16:29.220 ⇒ 00:16:34.530 Zoran Selinger: So just the start of a session, and where we have…
110 00:16:34.670 ⇒ 00:16:50.989 Zoran Selinger: Where we actually have any of these parameters seen. So, any UTMs, any click IDs, so only then you will have a row here. At least that’s the… that’s the solution I coded. Obviously, we can change the behavior here.
111 00:16:51.250 ⇒ 00:16:51.880 Henry Zhao: Nope.
112 00:16:53.010 ⇒ 00:16:56.760 Zoran Selinger: To something else, if… if…
113 00:16:58.180 ⇒ 00:17:07.209 Zoran Selinger: If that’s what needs to happen. The reason why I coded it like that is because this is, like, we are, we…
114 00:17:07.540 ⇒ 00:17:10.869 Zoran Selinger: Kind of care about the session level
115 00:17:11.690 ⇒ 00:17:15.900 Zoran Selinger: dimensions and metrics. So, that means, ciao!
116 00:17:16.099 ⇒ 00:17:20.389 Zoran Selinger: Sorry, she’s going. So, basically.
117 00:17:21.099 ⇒ 00:17:23.949 Zoran Selinger: And that means I only need to…
118 00:17:24.079 ⇒ 00:17:38.089 Zoran Selinger: I only need to do this once a session, right? So, if someone arrives, and then you can do this teaching and proper attribution modeling on, you know, in BigQuery. If this needs to be
119 00:17:38.190 ⇒ 00:17:39.879 Zoran Selinger: You know, I paid you.
120 00:17:40.150 ⇒ 00:17:49.760 Zoran Selinger: for every page, because basically this session, like, UTM and Google ClickID, this is true for every page view
121 00:17:50.210 ⇒ 00:17:52.630 Zoran Selinger: In each session, right?
122 00:17:52.850 ⇒ 00:17:58.209 Zoran Selinger: You understand? So that… that is… that’s not changing. This is a session level.
123 00:17:58.510 ⇒ 00:18:00.700 Zoran Selinger: These are session-level dimensions.
124 00:18:01.010 ⇒ 00:18:15.220 Zoran Selinger: So they do not change within a session. This is why we do not really need pages here, just for attributions. We just need the first touch, we just need the first loading, and we’re grabbing the parameters.
125 00:18:15.380 ⇒ 00:18:24.050 Zoran Selinger: You know, even, like, when you go from the first page to the second page, that second page doesn’t have UTMs anymore in it, right?
126 00:18:26.350 ⇒ 00:18:38.370 Henry Zhao: So then what I need from you, then, is a way to join this to the conversion, basically, right? So the conversion is BASC order created, so I need to either join that to the session ID, the hashed IP, or the user ID,
127 00:18:38.650 ⇒ 00:18:40.739 Henry Zhao: right, or something like that, then I should be able to do this.
128 00:18:41.210 ⇒ 00:18:44.699 Zoran Selinger: Yes, yes, I think, I think.
129 00:18:44.700 ⇒ 00:18:57.930 Henry Zhao: that timestamp is before the conversion, right? So, like, if I’m looking for Last Touch, I would just basically join UTM tracking to the conversion on whatever you give me to join, and I just… their timestamp is less than the conversion timestamp, right?
130 00:18:57.930 ⇒ 00:18:59.110 Zoran Selinger: Sure, yeah.
131 00:18:59.310 ⇒ 00:19:00.359 Henry Zhao: It’d work, yeah?
132 00:19:00.740 ⇒ 00:19:10.289 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah, that would work. Yes, you are absolutely… so, when you arrive at the order, so getting the bus order point.
133 00:19:10.290 ⇒ 00:19:22.869 Zoran Selinger: you can basically look at that table and look up the original, you know, campaign… campaign metrics, campaign dimensions, right? Yes, exactly.
134 00:19:23.260 ⇒ 00:19:30.100 Henry Zhao: Okay, so yeah, so your to-do is just to let me know which to join on, and fill in this table if that’s the right way forward.
135 00:19:30.100 ⇒ 00:19:38.859 Zoran Selinger: Sure, sure. We are still, like, looks… I just… I just had a new kind of feature request for the Edge.
136 00:19:39.060 ⇒ 00:19:40.799 Zoran Selinger: So, you know…
137 00:19:40.910 ⇒ 00:19:47.430 Zoran Selinger: it doesn’t look like… we only have a meeting about it on Thursday, I just got a… got an invite.
138 00:19:48.130 ⇒ 00:19:50.699 Zoran Selinger: So, age will not be done this week.
139 00:19:51.320 ⇒ 00:19:55.460 Henry Zhao: Okay, so I’ll need to update… Stakeholders.
140 00:19:57.000 ⇒ 00:19:59.840 Zoran Selinger: I mean, yeah, I mean, it’s…
141 00:20:00.100 ⇒ 00:20:04.339 Zoran Selinger: But they are pushing it back, basically, right?
142 00:20:06.110 ⇒ 00:20:14.179 Zoran Selinger: So they just, wanted to see, they want to have something to identify organic traffic.
143 00:20:16.060 ⇒ 00:20:25.800 Zoran Selinger: So I need to give them that functionality. I proposed some logic there in the message. You will see that in the,
144 00:20:26.630 ⇒ 00:20:30.749 Zoran Selinger: in… This thread, sending you a link.
145 00:20:33.560 ⇒ 00:20:34.880 Zoran Selinger: to the thread.
146 00:20:39.210 ⇒ 00:20:45.409 Zoran Selinger: So you will see the conversation there. So it’s… it’s not a huge tweak, we just… I just need it confirmed.
147 00:20:48.330 ⇒ 00:20:53.999 Henry Zhao: So that’s my next question, is, so will we be able to do your granic search for non-Google sources, like being…
148 00:20:54.250 ⇒ 00:20:56.009 Henry Zhao: DuckDuckGo and Yahoo?
149 00:20:57.120 ⇒ 00:21:07.140 Zoran Selinger: No, no. You will… I mean, no is for search queries. That’s what I’m saying no to.
150 00:21:07.360 ⇒ 00:21:09.230 Henry Zhao: Oh yeah, I’m just saying, look, what we…
151 00:21:09.380 ⇒ 00:21:12.550 Henry Zhao: We’ll be able to track non-organic search, conversions.
152 00:21:14.220 ⇒ 00:21:15.279 Henry Zhao: I mean, organically…
153 00:21:15.640 ⇒ 00:21:21.919 Zoran Selinger: Yes. So… if you read that message that I just sent you,
154 00:21:21.930 ⇒ 00:21:34.279 Zoran Selinger: looks like they want something, so they can, in GTM, they can basically tweak, and they can label something as organic. As long as we agree to what the rules are.
155 00:21:34.280 ⇒ 00:21:43.900 Zoran Selinger: for this, I can make it happen in the edge function. Basically, that’s just gonna be a list of referrals that we consider organic.
156 00:21:44.390 ⇒ 00:21:49.559 Zoran Selinger: And I will add, like, a readable cookie that says this is organic or not.
157 00:21:49.990 ⇒ 00:21:51.940 Henry Zhao: Okay, perfect. So that should be addressed.
158 00:21:53.590 ⇒ 00:21:58.229 Henry Zhao: Do you understand what this is? So we need to compare UTMs to Cutter’s List. So this is Cutter’s List.
159 00:21:58.660 ⇒ 00:21:59.600 Zoran Selinger: No.
160 00:21:59.600 ⇒ 00:22:00.650 Henry Zhao: We need to do here.
161 00:22:00.880 ⇒ 00:22:01.970 Zoran Selinger: Wait, wait.
162 00:22:04.390 ⇒ 00:22:05.909 Henry Zhao: Let me see if I can find…
163 00:22:06.480 ⇒ 00:22:07.650 Zoran Selinger: Haven’t even seen it.
164 00:22:12.700 ⇒ 00:22:13.420 Henry Zhao: Listen.
165 00:22:17.150 ⇒ 00:22:18.490 Henry Zhao: So I think this is…
166 00:22:24.530 ⇒ 00:22:27.520 Zoran Selinger: Okay, so that’s talking about the…
167 00:22:27.990 ⇒ 00:22:30.039 Henry Zhao: Well, let’s talk about this first one, then, first, okay.
168 00:22:30.040 ⇒ 00:22:30.870 Zoran Selinger: Okay, cool.
169 00:22:31.590 ⇒ 00:22:34.730 Henry Zhao: Let’s do one by one. Sorry, we’re running out of time, so…
170 00:22:35.620 ⇒ 00:22:42.190 Henry Zhao: Robert, after discussing with blah blah blah, you guys have discussed, right? We’ve decided to update our Google Ads account level tracking template to…
171 00:22:42.310 ⇒ 00:22:46.829 Henry Zhao: this… This is gonna preserve the G-Clid, right?
172 00:22:46.830 ⇒ 00:22:47.540 Zoran Selinger: Yes.
173 00:22:47.760 ⇒ 00:22:48.990 Henry Zhao: GID rep.
174 00:22:51.610 ⇒ 00:22:55.779 Henry Zhao: Here’s your tracking template. How about you let me know which of these you can see coming through, then we can add the G.
175 00:22:56.170 ⇒ 00:22:57.390 Henry Zhao: ID.
176 00:22:59.290 ⇒ 00:23:03.230 Henry Zhao: So, do I need to do anything on this, or are you going to be able to implement this?
177 00:23:03.560 ⇒ 00:23:18.910 Zoran Selinger: No, you don’t have to do anything. I already made all the changes in GTM, I just need the team to actually implement this alternative query string, and then we can publish the changes in GTM, and we’re good to go.
178 00:23:19.480 ⇒ 00:23:26.880 Zoran Selinger: I do not understand what T equals means. That’s what I commented in… in linear. I don’t understand that phrasing.
179 00:23:28.450 ⇒ 00:23:30.650 Henry Zhao: Where’s… where’s there an equals?
180 00:23:30.650 ⇒ 00:23:33.309 Zoran Selinger: So your agenda? .
181 00:23:36.750 ⇒ 00:23:38.080 Henry Zhao: So this policy is done.
182 00:23:38.320 ⇒ 00:23:40.340 Henry Zhao: by… so I can put this as done, right?
183 00:23:40.540 ⇒ 00:23:51.340 Zoran Selinger: So this is, 850, is that the 850? Yeah. So, but it says, T equals with those specific params. I’m not sure what that means.
184 00:23:51.790 ⇒ 00:23:55.589 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I think he just means… All these equals…
185 00:23:56.970 ⇒ 00:24:04.900 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, maybe it means template, yeah, because that’s… that option in Google Ads is URL template.
186 00:24:06.680 ⇒ 00:24:22.469 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so that’s, that’s ready to go. Stuart was, again, adding, getting, a little bit free with ChatGPT, and just finding, bad information that I had to correct.
187 00:24:22.590 ⇒ 00:24:25.319 Henry Zhao: I warned you about that in the first onboarding call.
188 00:24:25.680 ⇒ 00:24:27.010 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
189 00:24:27.010 ⇒ 00:24:33.970 Henry Zhao: Okay. Good, good, good. Okay, so 850 is around made in GTM. Let’s go quickly to 909.
190 00:24:35.030 ⇒ 00:24:50.310 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so on 8.50, I just… we just need their team to confirm that they updated their tracking template everywhere, I mean, on the accounts that they have, and then we can… we can, publish our changes in server… Server GTM.
191 00:24:50.740 ⇒ 00:24:56.659 Henry Zhao: Okay, so Eden909, you commented on this, Amber’s gonna look into getting you the login, but thank you for your help on this.
192 00:24:56.660 ⇒ 00:25:03.869 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, I mean, no problem, no problem. Especially, I mean, it makes it easier if we already have a working implementation, we just need to…
193 00:25:04.020 ⇒ 00:25:06.909 Zoran Selinger: Basically copied to another account, that’s fine.
194 00:25:07.610 ⇒ 00:25:14.480 Henry Zhao: Okay, cool. Thank you. Alright, last one is 902. Compare UTM to Cutter’s list.
195 00:25:14.480 ⇒ 00:25:16.310 Zoran Selinger: No idea what that is.
196 00:25:18.360 ⇒ 00:25:22.920 Henry Zhao: I think we’re just gonna… I think when you are done implementing it, you just need to make sure that
197 00:25:23.540 ⇒ 00:25:27.229 Henry Zhao: The… I think this is easy. I think I can just put this into a…
198 00:25:27.630 ⇒ 00:25:31.090 Henry Zhao: ad hoc table, just map UTM source to channel.
199 00:25:31.250 ⇒ 00:25:33.410 Henry Zhao: But I think it’s… I think once you…
200 00:25:33.410 ⇒ 00:25:37.140 Zoran Selinger: Yeah. Sounds to me like to be the, kind of, a modeling step.
201 00:25:37.750 ⇒ 00:25:38.580 Henry Zhao: Yeah, yeah.
202 00:25:38.580 ⇒ 00:25:40.490 Zoran Selinger: Instead of implementation step, yeah.
203 00:25:41.680 ⇒ 00:25:44.450 Henry Zhao: I’ll figure that out, and I will let you know if I need anything there.
204 00:25:44.450 ⇒ 00:25:45.450 Zoran Selinger: Okay, cool.
205 00:25:46.050 ⇒ 00:25:53.510 Henry Zhao: Okay, so I will update the clients that the edge layer won’t be done this week because of new things that are added, but you think just one additional week is good enough?
206 00:25:54.480 ⇒ 00:26:18.460 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, I mean, I’m basically ready, but we need to do that in their account, and I already told them that I suggest just picking one landing page that is maybe not the most volume landing page, and let’s just implement it there and see the data, how we… what we get, and can we actually, you know, can we do it for… can we use it for lookups and all that?
207 00:26:18.510 ⇒ 00:26:19.900 Zoran Selinger: But…
208 00:26:20.620 ⇒ 00:26:27.779 Zoran Selinger: it’s not happening. It looks like they are probably having more and more conversations on their side about the edge and what it needs to be.
209 00:26:29.050 ⇒ 00:26:43.680 Zoran Selinger: that we are not privy to, at least at the moment. Obviously, they are talking about it because they just told me about this organic request, so they are talking about what Edge needs to do on their side.
210 00:26:44.760 ⇒ 00:26:45.440 Henry Zhao: Yo.
211 00:26:46.330 ⇒ 00:26:47.160 Henry Zhao: Okay.
212 00:26:47.370 ⇒ 00:26:47.780 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
213 00:26:47.780 ⇒ 00:26:54.779 Henry Zhao: I think that’s… that’s good for today. I will create a new ticket for you for the UTM tracking table.
214 00:26:54.940 ⇒ 00:26:56.960 Henry Zhao: And, we’ll take it from there.
215 00:26:56.960 ⇒ 00:26:58.150 Zoran Selinger: Okay, excellent.
216 00:26:58.150 ⇒ 00:26:59.290 Henry Zhao: He’s more out to the run.
217 00:26:59.600 ⇒ 00:27:01.160 Zoran Selinger: Thank you. I’ll talk soon.
218 00:27:01.480 ⇒ 00:27:02.400 Zoran Selinger: Bye bye.