Meeting Title: Eden Project Collaboration Check-in Date: 2025-08-26 Meeting participants: Awaish Kumar, Amber Lin
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1 00:00:17.200 ⇒ 00:00:18.400 Amber Lin: Hello!
2 00:00:31.510 ⇒ 00:00:33.200 Amber Lin: Hi, you’re muted.
3 00:00:49.960 ⇒ 00:00:50.710 Awaish Kumar: Oh.
4 00:00:51.220 ⇒ 00:00:52.070 Amber Lin: Bye.
5 00:00:52.210 ⇒ 00:00:58.270 Amber Lin: Wait, let me get… Let me get seated and over my camera. One second.
6 00:00:58.490 ⇒ 00:00:59.050 Awaish Kumar: For me.
7 00:01:16.590 ⇒ 00:01:17.600 Amber Lin: What’s up?
8 00:01:18.140 ⇒ 00:01:18.980 Amber Lin: Hi.
9 00:01:19.260 ⇒ 00:01:20.949 Awaish Kumar: I’ll vote with Albert Jeremy.
10 00:01:21.620 ⇒ 00:01:32.750 Amber Lin: It’s… I’m glad I took some time off, but, like, it’s… it’s still a lot, but I think it’s getting better. Like, Eden’s getting better.
11 00:01:34.440 ⇒ 00:01:35.260 Amber Lin: Yeah.
12 00:01:38.310 ⇒ 00:01:41.760 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I just moved it. It’s not a…
13 00:01:42.930 ⇒ 00:01:50.380 Awaish Kumar: Meeting with any agenda, it’s just, getting to know, maybe discussing…
14 00:01:51.180 ⇒ 00:01:55.230 Awaish Kumar: things, like, for example, Dr. Eden or anything, like, just,
15 00:01:57.020 ⇒ 00:01:57.720 Amber Lin: Oh.
16 00:01:57.880 ⇒ 00:02:00.229 Awaish Kumar: Just to talk to each other about it, and yeah.
17 00:02:00.680 ⇒ 00:02:01.670 Amber Lin: Huh, I see.
18 00:02:02.250 ⇒ 00:02:04.620 Amber Lin: Well, I, I think…
19 00:02:04.980 ⇒ 00:02:07.710 Awaish Kumar: I’ve got these things in control, right? It’s…
20 00:02:08.460 ⇒ 00:02:11.530 Awaish Kumar: Instead of, like, reaching to the…
21 00:02:11.740 ⇒ 00:02:19.190 Awaish Kumar: point when it’s a red flag and escalating with them, like, maybe we can catch it early, and…
22 00:02:19.330 ⇒ 00:02:21.060 Awaish Kumar: Try to solve it.
23 00:02:21.680 ⇒ 00:02:26.539 Amber Lin: Yeah, and I think, like, this is something I thought about yesterday, I think…
24 00:02:26.640 ⇒ 00:02:30.859 Amber Lin: Having you there has been really, really helpful, because there’s stuff that…
25 00:02:30.930 ⇒ 00:02:48.119 Amber Lin: Because I have so many projects, I can’t think that much about one project, and I can tell that you’re trying really hard to improve Eden, and I’ve seen all the docs you wrote, and the thoughts that you posted, and I think having you there was really helpful, because there’s always…
26 00:02:48.160 ⇒ 00:02:55.730 Amber Lin: There’s always limitations to how much or what I can think about, so I think our collaboration has been really nice.
27 00:02:58.990 ⇒ 00:03:05.369 Awaish Kumar: Okay, … apart from work, like, how…
28 00:03:05.570 ⇒ 00:03:12.029 Awaish Kumar: Hmm. Like, what has been your… activities, like…
29 00:03:12.160 ⇒ 00:03:14.999 Awaish Kumar: What do you do, apart from what?
30 00:03:16.530 ⇒ 00:03:18.269 Amber Lin: What do you do apartment work?
31 00:03:20.680 ⇒ 00:03:26.299 Awaish Kumar: I, I would… I like to go out, like, I like traveling.
32 00:03:26.740 ⇒ 00:03:27.670 Amber Lin: Mmm.
33 00:03:28.520 ⇒ 00:03:30.030 Awaish Kumar: seeing new places.
34 00:03:30.590 ⇒ 00:03:33.540 Amber Lin: I’m in Pakistan, I’m limited by….
35 00:03:34.000 ⇒ 00:03:38.389 Awaish Kumar: the coverage of the internet, because I can’t go everywhere.
36 00:03:38.660 ⇒ 00:03:39.460 Awaish Kumar: I know.
37 00:03:39.460 ⇒ 00:03:40.400 Amber Lin: I don’t find footage.
38 00:03:40.400 ⇒ 00:03:41.310 Awaish Kumar: that connection?
39 00:03:41.490 ⇒ 00:03:45.699 Awaish Kumar: But otherwise, I love, like, being a different patient if I…
40 00:03:46.420 ⇒ 00:03:51.020 Awaish Kumar: if I can go anywhere, I have… I have visited almost Wow.
41 00:03:51.130 ⇒ 00:03:54.539 Awaish Kumar: every part of Pakistan.
42 00:03:54.600 ⇒ 00:04:01.400 Amber Lin: Wow. Have you thought about going outside of Pakistan as well? Have you visited, …
43 00:04:02.170 ⇒ 00:04:06.490 Amber Lin: Andrew, have you came here to visit Utam ever?
44 00:04:09.700 ⇒ 00:04:13.390 Awaish Kumar: No, like, I’ve been in Canada for a few months.
45 00:04:13.620 ⇒ 00:04:19.230 Awaish Kumar: But, like, when I started to look at them, I had to come back to Afghanistan, so….
46 00:04:19.959 ⇒ 00:04:20.329 Amber Lin: Mmm.
47 00:04:20.329 ⇒ 00:04:23.619 Awaish Kumar: Now, I have to move to US to meet him.
48 00:04:23.990 ⇒ 00:04:29.030 Amber Lin: I see. What were you doing in Canada? I was also in Canada for a few years.
49 00:04:29.300 ⇒ 00:04:32.479 Awaish Kumar: I was working as a data engineer there.
50 00:04:32.880 ⇒ 00:04:33.840 Amber Lin: Oh!
51 00:04:35.400 ⇒ 00:04:38.069 Awaish Kumar: I… before that, I was in Denmark.
52 00:04:38.600 ⇒ 00:04:41.599 Awaish Kumar: So I stayed, like, for 3 years in Denmark as well.
53 00:04:41.600 ⇒ 00:04:42.320 Amber Lin: Hmm.
54 00:04:43.140 ⇒ 00:04:46.019 Awaish Kumar: I work… I work there as a data engineer, that’s why.
55 00:04:46.500 ⇒ 00:04:48.210 Amber Lin: Wow, impressive.
56 00:04:49.100 ⇒ 00:04:55.609 Amber Lin: Do you still want to stay working in Pakistan, or do you want to go… do you wanna go…
57 00:04:55.780 ⇒ 00:04:57.390 Amber Lin: to another country.
58 00:04:58.520 ⇒ 00:05:06.080 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I might end up living in, Europe, but yeah, for now, I’m…
59 00:05:06.400 ⇒ 00:05:11.599 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, we have traveled a lot, like, from Denmark to Pakistan, then we went to Canada.
60 00:05:12.010 ⇒ 00:05:13.330 Amber Lin: Hmm, your family?
61 00:05:13.330 ⇒ 00:05:15.860 Awaish Kumar: wife and daughter, yeah, I have a wife and a daughter.
62 00:05:16.950 ⇒ 00:05:19.160 Awaish Kumar: Like I said, for now, we are just…
63 00:05:19.340 ⇒ 00:05:22.620 Awaish Kumar: We wish you had 3 daughters?
64 00:05:22.620 ⇒ 00:05:23.900 Amber Lin: Wait, what?
65 00:05:24.120 ⇒ 00:05:25.870 Amber Lin: How many kids do you have?
66 00:05:26.780 ⇒ 00:05:28.030 Awaish Kumar: I have one daughter.
67 00:05:28.410 ⇒ 00:05:31.969 Amber Lin: Oh, I see, I heard 3. My bad.
68 00:05:36.290 ⇒ 00:05:39.460 Amber Lin: But, like, all three of us have been very….
69 00:05:39.630 ⇒ 00:05:40.799 Awaish Kumar: It’s not healthy.
70 00:05:41.450 ⇒ 00:05:49.860 Awaish Kumar: like, I don’t know, with the traveling, we just… it was too much for us, so we decided to just be at some place for some time.
71 00:05:50.150 ⇒ 00:05:54.749 Amber Lin: Oh… and you guys, you and your wife are both from Pakistan?
72 00:05:55.120 ⇒ 00:05:55.909 Awaish Kumar: Oh, yep.
73 00:05:56.460 ⇒ 00:05:58.080 Amber Lin: Oh, I see.
74 00:05:58.970 ⇒ 00:06:00.699 Amber Lin: Do you want to stay there?
75 00:06:00.930 ⇒ 00:06:15.080 Amber Lin: Because I… like, I’m from China, and I don’t think I would go back, because if I go back, I can’t really get outside work, because of the internet. I just won’t be easily able to work.
76 00:06:15.370 ⇒ 00:06:21.629 Amber Lin: for foreign clients, but… do you want to stay in Pakistan? Or… I remember you said you wanted.
77 00:06:21.630 ⇒ 00:06:23.399 Awaish Kumar: Is it better?
78 00:06:23.800 ⇒ 00:06:27.179 Awaish Kumar: So, compared to China, it might be better for…
79 00:06:27.440 ⇒ 00:06:32.630 Awaish Kumar: from… from being Pakistan… from Pakistan, like, in terms of getting foreign clients?
80 00:06:32.960 ⇒ 00:06:33.600 Amber Lin: ….
81 00:06:33.600 ⇒ 00:06:44.139 Awaish Kumar: We do, like, all of our software companies are kind of service companies, and they are providing services to clients in US, EU,
82 00:06:46.440 ⇒ 00:06:52.909 Awaish Kumar: So… It is not a… yeah, but, like, on an individual level, it’s really hectic, like….
83 00:06:53.780 ⇒ 00:07:00.229 Awaish Kumar: If you are not a company, then it’s hard for you to get the… get the clients higher.
84 00:07:00.270 ⇒ 00:07:03.190 Amber Lin: From Pakistan, but, ….
85 00:07:03.640 ⇒ 00:07:09.269 Awaish Kumar: It’s okay, like, I want to be there for maybe a year or more.
86 00:07:09.520 ⇒ 00:07:14.290 Awaish Kumar: Then, then decide for…
87 00:07:14.590 ⇒ 00:07:18.010 Amber Lin: Are you gonna… wait, I’m gonna… I’m gonna pause the recording.
88 00:07:19.210 ⇒ 00:07:21.289 Awaish Kumar: Wait, give me one second.
89 00:07:21.950 ⇒ 00:07:25.280 Amber Lin: Can you pause… you’ll have to pause recording.
90 00:07:26.470 ⇒ 00:07:27.420 Awaish Kumar: I don’t know how often.
91 00:07:27.980 ⇒ 00:07:32.420 Amber Lin: You’ll click on the red dot, yeah. Do you plan to keep working here?
92 00:07:32.890 ⇒ 00:07:40.880 Amber Lin: It is nice working here, but is this… is this your long-term career goal? Like, do you want to keep working in a small company like this?