Meeting Title: Eden Project Issues Sync Date: 2025-08-07 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Amber Lin, Awaish Kumar
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1 00:02:29.750 ⇒ 00:02:30.900 Amber Lin: Hello!
2 00:02:31.300 ⇒ 00:02:32.270 Uttam Kumaran: Hello!
3 00:02:34.670 ⇒ 00:02:37.309 Amber Lin: Just talked to Robert earlier.
4 00:02:37.880 ⇒ 00:02:39.989 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay. How’d it go?
5 00:02:40.270 ⇒ 00:02:47.299 Amber Lin: It’s good. I was mostly talking about Eden, how? How you felt this week was not working, and then.
6 00:02:48.138 ⇒ 00:02:55.480 Amber Lin: what’s working, and then ask them to add me to Eden’s leadership meetings so I can.
7 00:02:55.700 ⇒ 00:02:58.545 Amber Lin: I can get a sense of what their priorities are.
8 00:02:59.581 ⇒ 00:03:03.300 Amber Lin: We also mentioned one thing that I think I’m gonna
9 00:03:03.410 ⇒ 00:03:05.979 Amber Lin: we need to escalate. It’s just that
10 00:03:06.840 ⇒ 00:03:11.170 Amber Lin: Donna has had this Cox project going on for 3 cycles.
11 00:03:11.930 ⇒ 00:03:14.879 Amber Lin: and we’re trying to figure out what he’s blocked by.
12 00:03:15.030 ⇒ 00:03:21.519 Amber Lin: and I don’t think he can clearly articulate to me what he’s what he’s blocked by.
13 00:03:21.680 ⇒ 00:03:26.150 Amber Lin: And then I just it’s just it’s just been going on.
14 00:03:26.530 ⇒ 00:03:38.240 Amber Lin: I believe he needs something from Rebecca, but I don’t know why that meeting hasn’t happened, and he already has met with Rebecca, but he still hasn’t, but he still doesn’t have
15 00:03:38.530 ⇒ 00:03:50.949 Amber Lin: apparently enough information to get this cogs project done. It’s been Greece like I. The Cogs project was on the tickets when I inherited Eden, and now it’s still on.
16 00:03:51.180 ⇒ 00:03:55.920 Amber Lin: So I want to escalate to both you, Aish and Utam.
17 00:03:56.330 ⇒ 00:03:59.510 Amber Lin: I and the I don’t want this to keep
18 00:04:00.420 ⇒ 00:04:06.600 Amber Lin: like a wish. Never lets take a sit for more than a cycle or 2. And it’s it’s.
19 00:04:07.000 ⇒ 00:04:12.419 Amber Lin: I think we have the same problem sometimes on urban stems, as well.
20 00:04:13.990 ⇒ 00:04:18.320 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I guess maybe a wish. I’ll I’ll let you go 1st if you have a comment. There.
21 00:04:20.540 ⇒ 00:04:22.060 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like for the
22 00:04:22.880 ⇒ 00:04:29.669 Awaish Kumar: yeah, it’s it’s so. I have like both views. I don’t know. We need to be more proactive on that side
23 00:04:30.194 ⇒ 00:04:34.310 Awaish Kumar: giving it a structure like instead of Demo id handling that
24 00:04:35.080 ⇒ 00:04:38.310 Awaish Kumar: like in driving it, we, we.
25 00:04:38.410 ⇒ 00:04:53.020 Awaish Kumar: we drive it and let him do the implementation. Second thing is about the bask, and, like the cause issue is directly linked with how the data is coming from bask.
26 00:04:53.270 ⇒ 00:04:58.649 Awaish Kumar: And so like the we we don’t get any
27 00:04:58.910 ⇒ 00:05:05.989 Awaish Kumar: cogs information from the platform. Right? Then, we have to rely on Google sheets.
28 00:05:06.130 ⇒ 00:05:10.370 Awaish Kumar: And historically, what we have been doing is just reading the data
29 00:05:11.115 ⇒ 00:05:20.889 Awaish Kumar: like from a sheet. And whatever value lettuce value is our source of truth. So we haven’t been versioning all the
30 00:05:21.380 ⇒ 00:05:24.109 Awaish Kumar: cogs as they change with time.
31 00:05:24.350 ⇒ 00:05:26.089 Awaish Kumar: So it’s like, kind of a
32 00:05:27.670 ⇒ 00:05:33.019 Awaish Kumar: like, we need to just be, break it down for the future. How we are going to handle
33 00:05:33.370 ⇒ 00:05:36.240 Awaish Kumar: it was, of course.
34 00:05:36.240 ⇒ 00:05:37.759 Uttam Kumaran: So I guess, like this is required.
35 00:05:37.760 ⇒ 00:05:45.209 Uttam Kumaran: This is like, too. This is too deep, like. What I heard from amber is that there’s work from 6 weeks ago that hasn’t been done
36 00:05:46.430 ⇒ 00:05:51.059 Uttam Kumaran: so like I don’t know that I don’t personally know the specifics, but like is that accurate?
37 00:05:51.760 ⇒ 00:05:56.310 Uttam Kumaran: Was there part of it done like what is there left to do? Cause there’s tickets.
38 00:05:56.310 ⇒ 00:05:56.750 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like.
39 00:05:56.750 ⇒ 00:05:57.090 Uttam Kumaran: Right.
40 00:05:57.950 ⇒ 00:06:10.627 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, there are tickets. But what what I’m trying to say is that it’s mainly is, there is because of the to and fro communication happening between
41 00:06:11.410 ⇒ 00:06:17.360 Awaish Kumar: the Bask Aiden and the Mlrda regarding historical cogs issue.
42 00:06:17.870 ⇒ 00:06:21.330 Awaish Kumar: and we are not able to retrieve historical cogs.
43 00:06:24.340 ⇒ 00:06:36.744 Awaish Kumar: And then, like because of that the new like like, for example, he she came up with that like, there’s 1 of the pharmacy who might might have charged us higher than
44 00:06:37.610 ⇒ 00:06:50.050 Awaish Kumar: what actually they should charge. And then we don’t know what was the cogs at that time like. We don’t know we know what’s what it is right now, but we don’t know like, what. What was that? Cogs like 8 months ago?
45 00:06:50.200 ⇒ 00:06:57.829 Awaish Kumar: So yeah, done, similar kind of issues are arising. But at the end of it. We have the
46 00:06:58.302 ⇒ 00:07:09.550 Awaish Kumar: sing like we can divide this into one or 2 streams like, okay, what? How we handle the whatever the current state is, and how we are going to move forward.
47 00:07:11.790 ⇒ 00:07:15.439 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think to answer you, Uton, what has been done?
48 00:07:15.930 ⇒ 00:07:21.379 Amber Lin: The cog stuff? Yeah. One of it is external sources, some of it.
49 00:07:21.540 ⇒ 00:07:24.630 Amber Lin: This client stakeholders directly have.
50 00:07:24.740 ⇒ 00:07:37.429 Amber Lin: And recently we’ve had. We’ve helped their finance Guy, to solve essentially a historical cost issue for a specific pharmacy. We got on a call, because this was urgent. We got on a call with
51 00:07:37.550 ⇒ 00:07:49.430 Amber Lin: Rebecca, who owns the farm farm off site, and we got the data for that pharmacy which tells which to me is that I think we’re a few calls away to get that data is
52 00:07:49.650 ⇒ 00:07:53.110 Amber Lin: I’ve asked about it. Every single stand up
53 00:07:53.570 ⇒ 00:08:04.419 Amber Lin: like I. I just think there needs to be someone else to get that data or can demote own this work stream, or maybe she should own implementation.
54 00:08:05.040 ⇒ 00:08:09.770 Amber Lin: Like, I I do think there’s a way to get the data right.
55 00:08:10.500 ⇒ 00:08:13.809 Awaish Kumar: So I would say like, I would like
56 00:08:14.250 ⇒ 00:08:20.890 Awaish Kumar: like, say, this situation is like, like we have an like the patient with a
57 00:08:22.166 ⇒ 00:08:28.573 Awaish Kumar: disease. But like then there are symptoms, and we are treating the symptoms. But we are not actually
58 00:08:29.080 ⇒ 00:08:51.527 Awaish Kumar: right. We haven’t reached to the like. The diagnosis of what the actual causes for the symptoms. So that’s why we have so many tickets. We are treating all those symptoms. But at the end of it. The real issue where the real issue is that’s like taking a lot of time. And I would sync with on it, maybe tomorrow and
59 00:08:52.370 ⇒ 00:09:02.719 Awaish Kumar: And then I have have a better status of what needs to be done, and then we can involve. Put them afterwards, like, if we need it.
60 00:09:02.720 ⇒ 00:09:09.070 Amber Lin: Yeah, yeah, that I think that’s what I that’s what I wanted. I probably should have raised this sooner. But I really appreciate it.
61 00:09:09.070 ⇒ 00:09:19.709 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, I think, like, I want for anything like this until a wage tells me like this is like, literally not possible. There’s probably more questions that we have to ask.
62 00:09:19.710 ⇒ 00:09:20.210 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
63 00:09:20.568 ⇒ 00:09:35.999 Uttam Kumaran: you know. But yeah, if there’s like a meeting that needs to get booked, or something like one thing that I would be really clear about is, yeah. The whatever the technical considerations should be taken offline and and had a discussion between
64 00:09:36.130 ⇒ 00:09:40.060 Uttam Kumaran: Awaitian and him. But like, if there’s a meeting that needs to get booked.
65 00:09:40.430 ⇒ 00:09:42.520 Uttam Kumaran: or whatever the deliverable is like.
66 00:09:42.670 ⇒ 00:09:45.600 Uttam Kumaran: that ticket should and should encompass that.
67 00:09:45.810 ⇒ 00:09:51.450 Uttam Kumaran: And definitely, there shouldn’t be anything that’s going on for more than 2 cycles, you know.
68 00:09:51.810 ⇒ 00:09:53.130 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I agree.
69 00:09:54.745 ⇒ 00:09:59.200 Amber Lin: I think a lot of these projects that emerge needs
70 00:09:59.340 ⇒ 00:10:20.350 Amber Lin: a clear roadmap because a lot of times we’re responding to stakeholders need this need that we’re not really anticipating anything. That’s probably something. I wish I would sync with you. I I will list out all the stuff that’s going on, and I’ll I’ll need to sync with you. If not, Robert, to make sure that
71 00:10:20.790 ⇒ 00:10:26.269 Amber Lin: we’re not as reactionary or like clocks that we know what to do.
72 00:10:27.590 ⇒ 00:10:32.429 Amber Lin: Yeah, that’s that’s my. That’s my friend on Eden. Other stuff is.
73 00:10:32.430 ⇒ 00:10:37.470 Uttam Kumaran: No, I agree. I mean, look, I think, overall, it’s just a symptom of us saying yes to a lot of things like
74 00:10:38.290 ⇒ 00:10:45.589 Uttam Kumaran: we need to be very clear with, like, what are all the work streams going on? And most this is where again, like.
75 00:10:45.880 ⇒ 00:10:48.859 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think it’s a demo, a problem.
76 00:10:48.960 ⇒ 00:10:51.700 Uttam Kumaran: I think there’s probably 10 other things.
77 00:10:52.100 ⇒ 00:10:59.970 Uttam Kumaran: and our expectations of like what is important and who’s working on what are probably not clear. It’s just my guess
78 00:11:01.450 ⇒ 00:11:06.179 Uttam Kumaran: because he hasn’t shown that he can’t technically get it done. But what I what I’m guessing is that
79 00:11:06.340 ⇒ 00:11:09.140 Uttam Kumaran: there’s just a lot of stuff going on. So
80 00:11:09.380 ⇒ 00:11:23.810 Uttam Kumaran: just try to like, really, it’s like our confusion. If you’re confused, then that confusion is gonna be triple, you know, for the folks on the team. So it’s helpful to have this. This could also be something we bring up in the
81 00:11:23.940 ⇒ 00:11:26.750 Uttam Kumaran: leads meeting on Monday. But yeah.
82 00:11:27.280 ⇒ 00:11:27.620 Amber Lin: Okay.
83 00:11:28.400 ⇒ 00:11:30.479 Uttam Kumaran: So what is the what is the action?
84 00:11:31.120 ⇒ 00:11:38.240 Amber Lin: Yeah, we’re just gonna we’re just like he’s gonna sing with Del Monte tomorrow on this specific fox project. I’m gonna
85 00:11:38.890 ⇒ 00:11:45.779 Amber Lin: clear up and organize the different work streams. And now that I have a better idea of Eden to
86 00:11:46.625 ⇒ 00:11:50.650 Amber Lin: to document that, that’s why I met with Robert earlier as well.
87 00:11:50.650 ⇒ 00:11:51.290 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
88 00:11:53.180 ⇒ 00:11:53.920 Awaish Kumar: On.
89 00:11:54.030 ⇒ 00:12:00.410 Awaish Kumar: Okay. Even also, like, I’m not sure, like regarding Henry’s
90 00:12:00.660 ⇒ 00:12:04.479 Awaish Kumar: work, like I asked about north reams of.
91 00:12:04.880 ⇒ 00:12:05.210 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
92 00:12:06.430 ⇒ 00:12:13.850 Uttam Kumaran: we sent a note to Henry. We sent a note to Henry this morning, basically, being like we need to see clear updates.
93 00:12:14.350 ⇒ 00:12:17.529 Uttam Kumaran: And so I mean for default stuff.
94 00:12:17.640 ⇒ 00:12:20.319 Uttam Kumaran: I give a deadline of of tomorrow
95 00:12:20.933 ⇒ 00:12:24.470 Uttam Kumaran: and and Robert also gave basically a deadline of like
96 00:12:24.940 ⇒ 00:12:26.719 Uttam Kumaran: this week or mid next week.
97 00:12:27.200 ⇒ 00:12:33.190 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s it’s in their court. I I can share what the note we sent was.
98 00:12:41.770 ⇒ 00:12:45.550 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, we’ll have an answer. I mean, we’ll certainly have an answer on this by
99 00:12:46.763 ⇒ 00:12:49.280 Uttam Kumaran: next Wednesday, at the latest.
100 00:12:49.780 ⇒ 00:12:50.490 Amber Lin: Hmm.
101 00:12:53.920 ⇒ 00:12:58.619 Awaish Kumar: Yeah. But whatever discussion I had with him, what I’m getting is like he’s more of a
102 00:12:58.930 ⇒ 00:13:03.699 Awaish Kumar: can be like a Pm. Project manager, or something like that, like, but he don’t.
103 00:13:03.700 ⇒ 00:13:09.490 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t even know. I don’t think he can be. I don’t think he can be a project manager. He hasn’t come. Communication sucks.
104 00:13:10.410 ⇒ 00:13:11.700 Awaish Kumar: Okay, like the
105 00:13:12.170 ⇒ 00:13:19.389 Awaish Kumar: on the technical side. I I’m I’m not sure like he like I asked for CIO over Ctl North beam
106 00:13:19.990 ⇒ 00:13:25.899 Awaish Kumar: and different other, like the Meta, for example, residual. He didn’t know like any of it.
107 00:13:28.340 ⇒ 00:13:29.010 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
108 00:13:30.350 ⇒ 00:13:38.800 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, this is where it’s like, it’s more of Robert like this product. Analytics is more of Robert’s world. He definitely is not a data engineer.
109 00:13:39.620 ⇒ 00:13:44.230 Uttam Kumaran: or like he’s more on the like setting up product analytics events.
110 00:13:44.590 ⇒ 00:13:49.959 Uttam Kumaran: But again, this is where, like I said, I sent that thing to Zoran. So if he comes back and can do all that.
111 00:13:50.730 ⇒ 00:13:56.440 Uttam Kumaran: I liked him, I liked him a lot. He seemed much more like technical.
112 00:13:56.570 ⇒ 00:13:57.810 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s see.
113 00:14:01.720 ⇒ 00:14:02.500 Amber Lin: Okay.
114 00:14:02.840 ⇒ 00:14:03.810 Awaish Kumar: And
115 00:14:04.380 ⇒ 00:14:09.630 Awaish Kumar: like from product analytics. What do you mean like setting up the like, for example, post hogue, or something like that?
116 00:14:09.870 ⇒ 00:14:10.600 Awaish Kumar: The Gtm.
117 00:14:10.600 ⇒ 00:14:12.620 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Setting up amplitude. Yeah.
118 00:14:12.870 ⇒ 00:14:13.610 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, okay.
119 00:14:13.610 ⇒ 00:14:20.159 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like setting up amplitude events like, yeah, just a little bit different.
120 00:14:28.080 ⇒ 00:14:33.029 Amber Lin: I’m looking at our notes from yesterday.
121 00:14:33.250 ⇒ 00:14:33.700 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
122 00:14:33.700 ⇒ 00:14:40.220 Amber Lin: I mean on data platforms. I’m just looking at decisions. We had to do data platform side
123 00:14:40.780 ⇒ 00:14:49.600 Amber Lin: synced up moved Annie off of it so she can do the spark plug thing and then
124 00:14:49.770 ⇒ 00:14:52.639 Amber Lin: add a Casey to do the real dashboards
125 00:14:52.890 ⇒ 00:15:00.890 Amber Lin: and then on the pming. Currently, I’m just handling it with
126 00:15:01.210 ⇒ 00:15:15.650 Amber Lin: concurrently with the ABC. Stand up so I mostly just check in quickly. Probably will add. I’ll add the insomnia to that as well, because it’s the same people. I’ll just sync there.
127 00:15:15.650 ⇒ 00:15:21.000 Uttam Kumaran: To do that, I mean, like my on my AI stand up. I run through interlude default.
128 00:15:21.220 ⇒ 00:15:23.199 Uttam Kumaran: and the AI team stuff.
129 00:15:23.200 ⇒ 00:15:29.329 Amber Lin: Yeah, I know I’d rather I’d rather, I take it, than you take it, because I don’t just don’t want to add more stuff to your plate.
130 00:15:29.990 ⇒ 00:15:31.080 Amber Lin: Because I’m yeah.
131 00:15:31.080 ⇒ 00:15:34.619 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, take it. But then, but then just is Giselle on those with you.
132 00:15:35.551 ⇒ 00:15:39.470 Amber Lin: No, I I do want to take her on with me. Do you.
133 00:15:39.470 ⇒ 00:15:43.009 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, just have her watch everything you do for like 2, 3 weeks, and then
134 00:15:43.560 ⇒ 00:15:45.179 Uttam Kumaran: she can get out later.
135 00:15:45.360 ⇒ 00:15:47.570 Amber Lin: Okay, that sounds good.
136 00:15:47.570 ⇒ 00:16:03.160 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, cause I think I’m not having. I’m having a couple of meetings with her. But sometimes in those meetings like today, she asked, like, Oh, can you explain like, how like the different stuff in linear works? I’m like dude. Go read this thing and notion, and then don’t ask how the linear works.
137 00:16:03.160 ⇒ 00:16:03.820 Amber Lin: Yeah.
138 00:16:03.820 ⇒ 00:16:05.680 Uttam Kumaran: We already wrote a bunch of stuff there, you know.
139 00:16:05.680 ⇒ 00:16:10.510 Amber Lin: No, I’m thinking I’ll give her some more time. I thought
140 00:16:11.393 ⇒ 00:16:15.600 Amber Lin: higher mistakes. We’ll see. I don’t wanna take the call too too early.
141 00:16:15.700 ⇒ 00:16:16.780 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay.
142 00:16:16.780 ⇒ 00:16:26.319 Amber Lin: To be more proactive and more aggressive. She’s she’s shown to be very diligent. So I just want to give her more time to see how it goes.
143 00:16:26.680 ⇒ 00:16:30.960 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, I I think the one thing that we don’t do well is
144 00:16:31.210 ⇒ 00:16:34.640 Uttam Kumaran: set expectations for communication really clear.
145 00:16:34.890 ⇒ 00:16:35.140 Amber Lin: Yeah.
146 00:16:35.140 ⇒ 00:16:38.083 Uttam Kumaran: The other thing is like, we’re we’re gonna be
147 00:16:38.790 ⇒ 00:16:44.510 Uttam Kumaran: we are a remote company. So we almost have to remind people to over communicate
148 00:16:45.148 ⇒ 00:16:48.020 Uttam Kumaran: like, we have the same issue with Sid.
149 00:16:48.818 ⇒ 00:16:50.970 Uttam Kumaran: and with a lot of other people, because
150 00:16:51.580 ⇒ 00:17:00.029 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. I think our our people tend to just be very nervous. I don’t know whether it’s fear or I don’t know whether it’s whatever. So I am
151 00:17:00.430 ⇒ 00:17:08.689 Uttam Kumaran: people to talk and slack, and I think one thing you could tell her an easy way is like
152 00:17:09.200 ⇒ 00:17:15.290 Uttam Kumaran: we should be. She’s a project manager. Her level of communication should be higher than anybody on our projects.
153 00:17:15.934 ⇒ 00:17:19.575 Amber Lin: And like that’s a good. That’s a great barometer.
154 00:17:21.099 ⇒ 00:17:22.200 Uttam Kumaran: You know, to like.
155 00:17:22.880 ⇒ 00:17:28.320 Uttam Kumaran: And I and I also told her I said, Look, I’m and for everybody I’m telling I can’t be in meetings anymore. So
156 00:17:28.440 ⇒ 00:17:54.410 Uttam Kumaran: I I’m like, if you you have to send me in slack, or it’s like, I don’t know when I can get to this so I’m trying to push really, really hard. I think we’re people are not going to join us with this level, because there most companies that are remote never really set guidelines for communication. It tends to just get figured out like some people are allowed. Some people are not. We need everything here to be pretty loud.
157 00:17:54.720 ⇒ 00:18:02.340 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think as a baseline, shouldn’t we set some basic requirements of, say, at least send.
158 00:18:02.520 ⇒ 00:18:08.229 Amber Lin: Everybody is required to send an update by the time they log off at the bare minimum.
159 00:18:08.230 ⇒ 00:18:14.230 Uttam Kumaran: I agree? Yeah, like, I mean AI team. They do that. I mean, I I 100 agree. But the thing is is like
160 00:18:14.480 ⇒ 00:18:28.499 Uttam Kumaran: every Pm team should understand because that could be in linear right? Like, just make sure your tickets are updated. But if you’re finding it frustrating or people aren’t updating. Then. Yeah, you should just say you need to put an end of date thing here, you know.
161 00:18:30.430 ⇒ 00:18:49.400 Uttam Kumaran: the the other thing, though, is like not. Everything can be urgent. Right? So I think one of the things that I have a gut feeling is happening is like we have things going on across a couple of clients, but like some of those like, if you set the due date for 4 days from now, that’s when it’s due, right? So it’s not worth
162 00:18:49.720 ⇒ 00:18:51.240 Uttam Kumaran: like being like.
163 00:18:51.240 ⇒ 00:18:55.950 Amber Lin: I don’t check on. I don’t check on those, because I don’t have time on my stand up to do that.
164 00:18:55.950 ⇒ 00:18:58.069 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so. But that’s what I’m saying. Is that
165 00:18:58.360 ⇒ 00:19:08.099 Uttam Kumaran: you? I? What I told what I told Giselle is like her job is to make sure. Everything as is groomed has estimates and has a due date. And like that’s gonna be my expectation.
166 00:19:08.670 ⇒ 00:19:11.810 Uttam Kumaran: because then it’s really clear like what we should
167 00:19:12.411 ⇒ 00:19:14.519 Uttam Kumaran: ask questions about? You know.
168 00:19:16.330 ⇒ 00:19:22.799 Amber Lin: Okay, I think she needs a bit more onboarding support.
169 00:19:22.900 ⇒ 00:19:32.750 Amber Lin: I will. I have a meeting scheduled with her tomorrow. I don’t have time today, because I have 2 more interviews later. But I do want to get her
170 00:19:32.880 ⇒ 00:19:36.750 Amber Lin: more set up with the tools. It seems sounds like she’s not
171 00:19:37.359 ⇒ 00:19:42.789 Amber Lin: not that comfortable with it yet which is understandable, so I’ll I’ll meet with her on that.
172 00:19:42.990 ⇒ 00:19:46.839 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. But also, like, tell people to go go to Youtube.
173 00:19:47.030 ⇒ 00:19:51.139 Uttam Kumaran: look up how to use linear like they have all this stuff already, like
174 00:19:52.540 ⇒ 00:19:55.068 Uttam Kumaran: written and stuff like that, you know.
175 00:19:55.430 ⇒ 00:20:01.150 Amber Lin: Now that sounds like a personality or characteristic, we should screen for.
176 00:20:01.150 ⇒ 00:20:12.088 Uttam Kumaran: We. But but it’s also it’s not but I. This is where it’s like, I. I don’t think anybody has has come on the team and communicated the way we’ve ultimately asked them to
177 00:20:12.410 ⇒ 00:20:13.020 Amber Lin: That’s true.
178 00:20:13.020 ⇒ 00:20:13.750 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
179 00:20:13.920 ⇒ 00:20:34.210 Uttam Kumaran: So we’ve we’ve wanted everybody, I think, starts off very shy around here. And then I basically break it out of them to talk so. It’s fine, like I feel like everybody I’ve always been like at 1 point or another you would have got a message for me that’s like, please send update. I don’t know what you’re doing. So it’s something that we have to break
180 00:20:34.520 ⇒ 00:20:53.579 Uttam Kumaran: like we have to break in on everybody. So I think that because you’re the closest to her amber, I think what would be helpful is like you just mentioned that to her often, and tell her that, like, hey? We are remote company. You cannot wait for the meeting to happen to ask a question, so one easy way is like.
181 00:20:53.700 ⇒ 00:20:59.679 Uttam Kumaran: just put your questions as soon as you have it. Another easy way is at the end of every day. Write all your questions down.
182 00:21:00.250 ⇒ 00:21:03.829 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t. I think she’ll respond well to that. But.
183 00:21:03.830 ⇒ 00:21:04.490 Amber Lin: Yeah.
184 00:21:04.720 ⇒ 00:21:12.829 Uttam Kumaran: It’s not something that I’ve nobody who’s joined as except for, like nobody’s joined as as ever. Actually, miss. Maybe Mustafa is the only person
185 00:21:12.960 ⇒ 00:21:16.180 Uttam Kumaran: that has really communicated like
186 00:21:17.740 ⇒ 00:21:22.749 Uttam Kumaran: really well, from the start, you know, everybody we had to really poke, and that’s fine.
187 00:21:24.070 ⇒ 00:21:24.590 Amber Lin: Yeah.
188 00:21:24.590 ⇒ 00:21:31.700 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just like not many people are. I’ve been at companies where they they like really have guidelines around this. And so.
189 00:21:31.700 ⇒ 00:21:40.669 Amber Lin: I think we should set guidelines around it, so that we don’t have to tell one person when they mess up, that we can tell them early on.
190 00:21:40.670 ⇒ 00:21:47.179 Uttam Kumaran: But also it’s like, it’s something that everybody needs like. For example, if she’s only talking to me and you.
191 00:21:47.730 ⇒ 00:21:52.669 Uttam Kumaran: everybody who she interacts with needs to remind her to slack often.
192 00:21:52.830 ⇒ 00:21:56.683 Amber Lin: Right. So it needs to be like kind of a group. Shame thing.
193 00:21:57.970 ⇒ 00:22:11.479 Uttam Kumaran: Because I’m not gonna talk. I’m not spending any time with her. So it’s not gonna come for me. And then you’re also busy. But she’s interacting with the team. So everybody needs to almost be like, Hey, here’s how we do things around here, you know, by the hand.
194 00:22:11.981 ⇒ 00:22:21.790 Uttam Kumaran: It’s something that we have to consider like how we but this is where it’s like one of the things that onboarding is we wanted to consider having like an onboarding buddy that is like, not on your team.
195 00:22:21.960 ⇒ 00:22:27.569 Uttam Kumaran: Right? Who can answer questions like, Hey, like, how do we communicate or like? What’s the best thing like.
196 00:22:29.169 ⇒ 00:22:35.239 Uttam Kumaran: you know, cause I’m just gonna my expectations are just high off the jump. So I’m like, kind of just waiting.
197 00:22:36.646 ⇒ 00:22:38.080 Amber Lin: Yeah, and
198 00:22:38.270 ⇒ 00:22:45.150 Amber Lin: we should have guidelines for that. Because I think even people who has been on the company for a while don’t do that
199 00:22:45.990 ⇒ 00:22:53.289 Amber Lin: every time, every so often we also forget. So we should have that written out. And then so everybody can reference
200 00:22:53.440 ⇒ 00:22:59.677 Amber Lin: like communication principles. For example, yeah, I’ll sync with Rico on that
201 00:23:00.070 ⇒ 00:23:04.635 Uttam Kumaran: Rico Rico probably is the probably the one that should tell us to people actually.
202 00:23:04.940 ⇒ 00:23:05.480 Amber Lin: Yeah.
203 00:23:05.480 ⇒ 00:23:12.853 Uttam Kumaran: I feel like he. I feel like he’d be really been like, you need to do this like you need to do this like I’m not good at that. I tend to wait until.
204 00:23:13.070 ⇒ 00:23:16.879 Amber Lin: Yeah, he’s good at it. So let’s that’s that’s why he’s at the position.
205 00:23:17.110 ⇒ 00:23:17.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
206 00:23:17.920 ⇒ 00:23:31.289 Amber Lin: Not off sleep, so we’ll ask him to help us on that. I know we wanted to talk about interview structures. I know Robert had some
207 00:23:32.128 ⇒ 00:23:45.390 Amber Lin: feedback on that. Do we want to talk about it now, or do you want me and Rigo to do a 1st draft based on the feedback we got, and then to review it together. Next week.
208 00:23:45.950 ⇒ 00:23:47.399 Uttam Kumaran: I would rather that.
209 00:23:47.400 ⇒ 00:23:48.190 Amber Lin: Okay, cause.
210 00:23:48.190 ⇒ 00:23:59.720 Uttam Kumaran: Whatever, Robert, said I, I’m game for, like basically trying to get stuff in loom at a time. If I can see something, then I can give you like one or 2 better questions if needed, but, like.
211 00:24:00.316 ⇒ 00:24:03.650 Amber Lin: You guys, since you guys have both now seen the whole process. So
212 00:24:03.650 ⇒ 00:24:09.670 Amber Lin: yeah, okay, so let me note that down Rick.
213 00:24:09.670 ⇒ 00:24:14.090 Uttam Kumaran: Joe and I were. We also started doing like an operations weekly.
214 00:24:14.090 ⇒ 00:24:15.100 Amber Lin: That’s all.
215 00:24:15.850 ⇒ 00:24:16.449 Uttam Kumaran: So
216 00:24:16.950 ⇒ 00:24:24.130 Uttam Kumaran: I’m talking to him about some recruiting stuff there, but like I also again like we could do you probably panel the whole thing in slack.
217 00:24:24.500 ⇒ 00:24:25.520 Uttam Kumaran: So
218 00:24:25.870 ⇒ 00:24:31.070 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t wanna add another meeting to your calendar. But I needed to talk to him weekly about operations, other operations. So.
219 00:24:31.070 ⇒ 00:24:37.840 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay, I’ll ask him here. I’ll type it in right now for him to take the feedback in our channel.
220 00:24:38.597 ⇒ 00:24:42.980 Amber Lin: And then make a initial draft, and then
221 00:24:43.760 ⇒ 00:24:51.059 Amber Lin: you guys can review Monday, and then I can review with him Tuesday if needed. But I’ll send that in the channel.
222 00:25:02.720 ⇒ 00:25:08.359 Amber Lin: Oh, he actually did. That’s so funny. Sorry, Rico. I didn’t see his work.
223 00:25:09.305 ⇒ 00:25:11.330 Amber Lin: So there is.
224 00:25:17.900 ⇒ 00:25:20.049 Amber Lin: Do you guys want to look at it now.
225 00:25:21.610 ⇒ 00:25:24.570 Amber Lin: Yeah, we’ll send. Actually, we’ll we’ll we’ll do comments.
226 00:25:24.980 ⇒ 00:25:28.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, just send it. Send in the managers thing up and comment.
227 00:25:28.920 ⇒ 00:25:29.480 Amber Lin: Yeah.
228 00:25:29.940 ⇒ 00:25:33.329 Amber Lin: So in the recruiters channel, I’ll send in the manager’s channel.
229 00:25:40.510 ⇒ 00:25:49.319 Amber Lin: Okay, all right, that’s all.
230 00:25:50.160 ⇒ 00:25:54.310 Uttam Kumaran: Was there anything else from yesterday? Sorry, I was just like I literally been back to back.
231 00:25:54.310 ⇒ 00:25:57.250 Amber Lin: Oh, that’s okay. I’m trying to find it.
232 00:26:00.720 ⇒ 00:26:05.029 Uttam Kumaran: Monthly client. Audits are reducing time, Henry. One month at a time.
233 00:26:05.390 ⇒ 00:26:09.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, out of office stuff like.
234 00:26:09.520 ⇒ 00:26:12.630 Amber Lin: Oh, hannah also asked me about it.
235 00:26:13.760 ⇒ 00:26:15.350 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So
236 00:26:21.260 ⇒ 00:26:29.650 Uttam Kumaran: we basically need to like enforce that. It’s at least like.
237 00:26:30.210 ⇒ 00:26:34.330 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I would. It would be great to have it be 4 weeks ahead of time.
238 00:26:35.830 ⇒ 00:26:40.779 Uttam Kumaran: But it needs to be a minimum 2 weeks ahead of time unless it’s emergency.
239 00:26:43.490 ⇒ 00:26:51.840 Uttam Kumaran: we also like need an approval process. Right? So right now, we just have, like the linear thing, and then it automatically like gets approved.
240 00:26:52.230 ⇒ 00:26:55.519 Uttam Kumaran: But there should be like an approval.
241 00:26:57.030 ⇒ 00:26:57.775 Amber Lin: Yeah,
242 00:26:58.520 ⇒ 00:27:05.499 Uttam Kumaran: That should just happen in the planning. Basically, that planning meeting should there should be an agenda item for, like out of office approvals.
243 00:27:05.500 ⇒ 00:27:12.229 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, we’re planning for clients or just planning in for us like our Monday meetings.
244 00:27:12.230 ⇒ 00:27:14.399 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, for in the Tuesday meeting.
245 00:27:14.740 ⇒ 00:27:15.300 Amber Lin: Oh!
246 00:27:15.300 ⇒ 00:27:16.690 Uttam Kumaran: In your Tuesday meeting like.
247 00:27:16.690 ⇒ 00:27:17.190 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.
248 00:27:17.190 ⇒ 00:27:26.100 Uttam Kumaran: And allocation. Yeah, because, like cause, here’s where it should happen longer. Term the project manager on the account.
249 00:27:26.400 ⇒ 00:27:31.659 Uttam Kumaran: and the engineer and the manager, the people manager for that person probably need to make the call together.
250 00:27:31.800 ⇒ 00:27:35.040 Uttam Kumaran: But it’s more. It’s more important that the project manager
251 00:27:35.630 ⇒ 00:27:39.499 Uttam Kumaran: is like, Okay, we have someone who can cover this
252 00:27:41.850 ⇒ 00:27:44.690 Uttam Kumaran: right? So I so I think, like
253 00:27:45.140 ⇒ 00:27:46.609 Uttam Kumaran: it should either be in like
254 00:27:46.830 ⇒ 00:27:49.940 Uttam Kumaran: the Delivery Weekly or in the allocation planning meeting.
255 00:27:50.160 ⇒ 00:27:55.469 Amber Lin: Yeah, I put it in my Tuesday meetings. Also, I didn’t see your message that we want to do this tomorrow. I.
256 00:27:55.470 ⇒ 00:27:56.950 Uttam Kumaran: Well, that’s fine. Sounds fine.
257 00:27:58.050 ⇒ 00:28:04.969 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay, I’m gonna cancel the Friday meeting progress through Async.
258 00:28:07.800 ⇒ 00:28:08.480 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
259 00:28:08.900 ⇒ 00:28:21.659 Amber Lin: I think we just need to put some stuff in slides. I’m meeting, which is all tomorrow, and in that 30 min I’ll also just fill out the stuff. Oh, never mind. I’ll fill out the Pmo stuff on the slides, Async.
260 00:28:22.120 ⇒ 00:28:24.250 Amber Lin: and I’m seeking with Giselle tomorrow.
261 00:28:26.145 ⇒ 00:28:27.190 Amber Lin: Yeah.
262 00:28:28.513 ⇒ 00:28:30.739 Amber Lin: Recruiting channel.
263 00:28:33.920 ⇒ 00:28:35.395 Uttam Kumaran: Do you want? Do you?
264 00:28:35.980 ⇒ 00:28:36.670 Amber Lin: Yeah.
265 00:28:36.670 ⇒ 00:28:43.720 Uttam Kumaran: Like one thing we could do is like you. Could we could have bosh meet with me like every few days if he’s the only one on data. Pla, if like.
266 00:28:44.100 ⇒ 00:28:49.510 Uttam Kumaran: if the data platform stuff is literally gonna be me, him and Casey, then I can just meet with those guys
267 00:28:51.330 ⇒ 00:28:53.319 Uttam Kumaran: and like.
268 00:28:53.320 ⇒ 00:28:56.789 Amber Lin: That’s something you want to drive along, because the requirements.
269 00:28:56.790 ⇒ 00:29:00.479 Uttam Kumaran: Who’s like, who is there? Are there meetings happening for that now or no?
270 00:29:00.480 ⇒ 00:29:08.199 Amber Lin: Yeah, there is. We do it alongside ABC, me after the ABC meeting. So it’s awaish me, Vashtep. And now, Casey.
271 00:29:09.620 ⇒ 00:29:12.260 Amber Lin: okay, and he knows Casey.
272 00:29:13.860 ⇒ 00:29:15.580 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I would rather not.
273 00:29:15.870 ⇒ 00:29:16.240 Amber Lin: Okay.
274 00:29:16.240 ⇒ 00:29:23.640 Uttam Kumaran: So if you’re already talking about it then, and it’s fine, then it’s fine. I went through. And I left comments. And I basically was like, Rip it like they have everything.
275 00:29:24.240 ⇒ 00:29:32.069 Uttam Kumaran: So I mean, 1 1 thing we could do is like, if you want to do Friday, Demos.
276 00:29:32.650 ⇒ 00:29:40.089 Uttam Kumaran: And that way it puts like some pressure on output. And you can say, we’re every Friday or or
277 00:29:40.720 ⇒ 00:29:43.640 Uttam Kumaran: every Friday, we’re gonna do a data platform demo.
278 00:29:44.230 ⇒ 00:29:48.220 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s all internal and boshto can lead that, basically. And I can go to that
279 00:29:49.150 ⇒ 00:29:50.570 Uttam Kumaran: or every 2 weeks.
280 00:29:50.910 ⇒ 00:29:51.750 Amber Lin: Yeah, sure.
281 00:29:52.860 ⇒ 00:30:02.849 Uttam Kumaran: That way. It gives you like a. It gives you like a looming figure like if, like, I’m going to be in that meeting, and and he could lead the the demos of whatever they developed.
282 00:30:03.260 ⇒ 00:30:03.880 Amber Lin: Hmm.
283 00:30:04.090 ⇒ 00:30:06.440 Uttam Kumaran: Versus it being all Async, you know.
284 00:30:06.440 ⇒ 00:30:09.090 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay.
285 00:30:16.470 ⇒ 00:30:21.730 Amber Lin: sounds good. That’s all that’s on my mind. I’m gonna leave some comments.
286 00:30:21.920 ⇒ 00:30:24.110 Amber Lin: Oh, do I have an interview now?
287 00:30:24.500 ⇒ 00:30:30.520 Amber Lin: Okay, no, I’m gonna leave some comments on the. So the recruiting sop that Rico created.
288 00:30:35.640 ⇒ 00:30:37.790 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah. Okay. Great.
289 00:30:43.300 ⇒ 00:30:51.312 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah. Aisha, I’m gonna I’m I’m hearing back. From some people on
290 00:30:56.460 ⇒ 00:30:58.279 Uttam Kumaran: on the remote stuff.
291 00:31:01.030 ⇒ 00:31:01.950 Uttam Kumaran: But
292 00:31:02.850 ⇒ 00:31:09.280 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I feel like I should have someone for you. When is there? Is there? Is there a kickoff for that? That’s already going.
293 00:31:12.185 ⇒ 00:31:18.899 Awaish Kumar: Like this is just came up as a meeting as part of Emr, so we don’t have any.
294 00:31:19.920 ⇒ 00:31:22.819 Awaish Kumar: so we have to give the answer like
295 00:31:23.560 ⇒ 00:31:27.910 Awaish Kumar: to basically the remote team, like what what we are thinking about it right?
296 00:31:28.130 ⇒ 00:31:32.070 Awaish Kumar: And and Robert wanted to give that answer by the end of week.
297 00:31:35.503 ⇒ 00:31:39.389 Awaish Kumar: Basically send them the proposal, like what we are going to.
298 00:31:39.390 ⇒ 00:31:40.310 Uttam Kumaran: Bye, tomorrow.
299 00:31:40.560 ⇒ 00:31:43.499 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, by, by end of, by, yeah, by tomorrow.
300 00:31:43.900 ⇒ 00:31:45.440 Uttam Kumaran: By end of the day tomorrow.
301 00:31:46.010 ⇒ 00:31:46.670 Awaish Kumar: Yep.
302 00:31:47.140 ⇒ 00:31:56.970 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So if I get a meeting with someone on my side tomorrow, like 30 min in the morning, can we do that? Maybe we can all brainstorm. What the plan is.
303 00:31:59.030 ⇒ 00:32:00.380 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, sure.
304 00:32:01.840 ⇒ 00:32:02.530 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
305 00:32:06.130 ⇒ 00:32:08.390 Uttam Kumaran: okay, let me try to get that set up. Then.
306 00:32:10.580 ⇒ 00:32:15.400 Uttam Kumaran: I’m interviewing 2 people that are ex shopify data people.
307 00:32:15.901 ⇒ 00:32:21.780 Uttam Kumaran: One is a data, former data scientist. One is another sort of junior data analyst
308 00:32:21.970 ⇒ 00:32:23.940 Uttam Kumaran: recommended by a friend of mine.
309 00:32:25.740 ⇒ 00:32:28.049 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna talk to them next week.
310 00:32:28.914 ⇒ 00:32:34.309 Uttam Kumaran: Who am I talking to? Yeah, I mean, I’m sort of like
311 00:32:34.650 ⇒ 00:32:37.360 Uttam Kumaran: just waiting to hear how the Vinay thing went.
312 00:32:38.628 ⇒ 00:32:40.601 Uttam Kumaran: Really, fingers crossed.
313 00:32:41.510 ⇒ 00:32:43.999 Uttam Kumaran: You’re talking to Emily tomorrow. Amber.
314 00:32:44.680 ⇒ 00:32:46.390 Amber Lin: Yeah, I’m talking to Emily.
315 00:32:46.390 ⇒ 00:32:48.170 Uttam Kumaran: You have more interviews today.
316 00:32:49.051 ⇒ 00:33:00.289 Amber Lin: Well, I have one with blast, which I don’t really know what that’s for later today. And then I have one with Lester for Pm. Coordinator, and then.
317 00:33:00.290 ⇒ 00:33:01.940 Uttam Kumaran: Who’s the who’s the 1st person.
318 00:33:02.910 ⇒ 00:33:09.290 Amber Lin: Blast, which I think is from blue people. I don’t know who this is
319 00:33:09.580 ⇒ 00:33:11.719 Amber Lin: to be very honest with you.
320 00:33:13.340 ⇒ 00:33:20.809 Amber Lin: Then I’m searching it in our recruiting channel. Nothing turned up. Did they? Just schedule it on my calendar? I don’t. I don’t know.
321 00:33:20.810 ⇒ 00:33:23.580 Uttam Kumaran: What is the person’s 1st and last name?
322 00:33:25.400 ⇒ 00:33:27.100 Amber Lin: Blas Reina.
323 00:33:27.780 ⇒ 00:33:29.170 Uttam Kumaran: BLAS.
324 00:33:30.500 ⇒ 00:33:31.310 Amber Lin: Yes.
325 00:33:33.150 ⇒ 00:33:34.320 Uttam Kumaran: And then last name.
326 00:33:35.140 ⇒ 00:33:39.140 Amber Lin: Raynas, which is REYN a.
327 00:33:42.560 ⇒ 00:33:45.470 Uttam Kumaran: REYN a s.
328 00:33:47.160 ⇒ 00:33:49.380 Amber Lin: I’ll copy it. I’ll send to you.
329 00:33:50.380 ⇒ 00:33:51.389 Uttam Kumaran: What the heck.
330 00:33:52.710 ⇒ 00:33:54.150 Amber Lin: I don’t know.
331 00:33:55.140 ⇒ 00:33:58.020 Uttam Kumaran: Wait. Let me see this. Maybe it’s someone from my Linkedin.
332 00:33:58.020 ⇒ 00:33:59.039 Amber Lin: Hmm could be.
333 00:33:59.970 ⇒ 00:34:00.820 Uttam Kumaran: Well.
334 00:34:19.989 ⇒ 00:34:22.040 Uttam Kumaran: oh, yeah, I don’t know who.
335 00:34:25.630 ⇒ 00:34:27.449 Amber Lin: In the meantime, Rico, ask him.
336 00:34:29.139 ⇒ 00:34:38.429 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Ask him. I don’t know who this is. There’s 1 Boss Reina project manager on Linkedin. But
337 00:34:43.709 ⇒ 00:34:44.899 Uttam Kumaran: and who else?
338 00:34:45.860 ⇒ 00:34:48.789 Amber Lin: And Lester, who is Pm. Coordinator.
339 00:34:50.080 ⇒ 00:34:54.050 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, I mean, dude. You can move the lesser one like if you don’t want to do it.
340 00:34:54.620 ⇒ 00:34:56.060 Amber Lin: Now I didn’t move that.
341 00:34:56.060 ⇒ 00:34:56.750 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
342 00:34:57.112 ⇒ 00:35:00.009 Amber Lin: I’ll do a quick screening call. It’s okay.
343 00:35:01.390 ⇒ 00:35:04.620 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, and then tomorrow you have just Emily.
344 00:35:05.840 ⇒ 00:35:12.189 Uttam Kumaran: Emily and Osama. But I know that we tried to move the Osama one. So I’m gonna check in. If that’s so.
345 00:35:12.736 ⇒ 00:35:13.830 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay.
346 00:35:16.750 ⇒ 00:35:27.330 Uttam Kumaran: okay, great. Yeah. Tomorrow, I’m meeting with one AI engineer in person. I’m meeting with another like brain forge
347 00:35:27.470 ⇒ 00:35:35.780 Uttam Kumaran: type company owner. They do like tableau. They’re a tab. They’re just a tableau shop called micro Analytics.
348 00:35:36.030 ⇒ 00:35:36.395 Amber Lin: Hmm.
349 00:35:40.990 ⇒ 00:35:43.140 Uttam Kumaran: They like. All they do is tableau.
350 00:35:45.930 ⇒ 00:35:48.129 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll send it in the manager’s channel.
351 00:35:54.160 ⇒ 00:35:57.359 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe they can start taking on our dashboard work.
352 00:36:01.910 ⇒ 00:36:05.840 Uttam Kumaran: That’s it. Like, How how do you think marketing stuff’s going? I’m like, so I’m I’m
353 00:36:06.010 ⇒ 00:36:10.020 Uttam Kumaran: I’m basically just not. I’m just answering questions on
354 00:36:10.440 ⇒ 00:36:13.180 Uttam Kumaran: slack. But I feel like it’s fine.
355 00:36:16.670 ⇒ 00:36:18.709 Amber Lin: And for the marketing team.
356 00:36:18.710 ⇒ 00:36:19.530 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
357 00:36:19.770 ⇒ 00:36:23.349 Amber Lin: I have no 0 visibility into the marketing team.
358 00:36:23.350 ⇒ 00:36:24.090 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
359 00:36:24.403 ⇒ 00:36:25.970 Amber Lin: Need to ask. We go.
360 00:36:26.680 ⇒ 00:36:29.209 Amber Lin: Why don’t we include him in these meetings?
361 00:36:32.006 ⇒ 00:36:38.930 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I don’t. If it’s not going, if it’s going bad, then I think someone would have told us so that I assume it’s going. Yeah.
362 00:36:39.450 ⇒ 00:36:40.130 Amber Lin: I see.
363 00:36:40.130 ⇒ 00:36:46.070 Uttam Kumaran: I usually try to join the retros. I’ll join tomorrow. I just if yeah, I feel like it’s fine. I mean.
364 00:36:46.710 ⇒ 00:36:52.690 Uttam Kumaran: I’m talking that team all the same people every day. I just want this. Everyone seems okay. So
365 00:36:57.510 ⇒ 00:37:00.779 Uttam Kumaran: cool, alright perfect. Yeah. So I think.
366 00:37:01.210 ⇒ 00:37:10.389 Uttam Kumaran: kind of like what I’m hoping for on. You know, we’re we’re getting to Friday. And then on Monday, I think similarly, my only question was, if we’re gonna do a delivery
367 00:37:12.230 ⇒ 00:37:14.040 Uttam Kumaran: thing on Monday.
368 00:37:16.200 ⇒ 00:37:17.990 Amber Lin: Delivery fans in.
369 00:37:17.990 ⇒ 00:37:21.519 Uttam Kumaran: Like, do we wanna do like a deliver like a meeting about
370 00:37:22.130 ⇒ 00:37:26.800 Uttam Kumaran: on delivery like now that you have like Giselle.
371 00:37:27.020 ⇒ 00:37:28.049 Uttam Kumaran: do we want to talk about.
372 00:37:28.050 ⇒ 00:37:30.759 Amber Lin: Oh, oh, I was wanting to do that tomorrow.
373 00:37:31.320 ⇒ 00:37:36.719 Amber Lin: so that we’re ready for the Monday managers meeting, so I can report on it. That’s why I booked it Friday.
374 00:37:37.440 ⇒ 00:37:38.829 Uttam Kumaran: But that’s with who.
375 00:37:39.130 ⇒ 00:37:40.210 Amber Lin: Oh, we do so.
376 00:37:40.590 ⇒ 00:37:45.989 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, so I guess what? But that’s what I’m saying, what where are we gonna be talking about on Monday? Because
377 00:37:46.590 ⇒ 00:37:49.209 Uttam Kumaran: we have the leads, review, marketing.
378 00:37:49.780 ⇒ 00:37:54.489 Uttam Kumaran: engineering, and then managers. But I don’t consider that as part of the managers meeting.
379 00:37:54.660 ⇒ 00:38:00.289 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, then. Well, we can do a separate. We can do a separately delivery meeting.
380 00:38:00.290 ⇒ 00:38:07.519 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, I would rather do like just 30 min on delivery. And it could be it could be the entire Pmo group
381 00:38:08.100 ⇒ 00:38:14.270 Uttam Kumaran: like. And we know we just talk about like delivery. Pm, stuff.
382 00:38:14.480 ⇒ 00:38:20.190 Uttam Kumaran: That’s it. So like, I’m gonna I mean, I’m gonna try to just like I’m gonna
383 00:38:20.340 ⇒ 00:38:23.500 Uttam Kumaran: move some meetings around. So you tell me like, if it’s better
384 00:38:23.670 ⇒ 00:38:26.060 Uttam Kumaran: to have that later in the day, or when.
385 00:38:27.440 ⇒ 00:38:35.959 Amber Lin: I’m free, but your Monday is too crazy. I think it’s probably better for your calendar to put it on
386 00:38:36.200 ⇒ 00:38:37.330 Amber Lin: Friday.
387 00:38:39.730 ⇒ 00:38:44.090 Uttam Kumaran: I would rather not do anything on Friday.
388 00:38:44.090 ⇒ 00:38:45.080 Amber Lin: Okay. Then.
389 00:38:45.080 ⇒ 00:38:53.510 Uttam Kumaran: So I will but see, I can move like I can shorten stuff. For example, we don’t need an hour for marketing, 30 min for partnerships, and
390 00:38:54.780 ⇒ 00:38:55.540 Uttam Kumaran: 30 min.
391 00:38:55.540 ⇒ 00:39:00.100 Amber Lin: After your operations leaves meeting. It seems that you’re not going to the vixel one.
392 00:39:02.250 ⇒ 00:39:06.240 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, want to go to this. But
393 00:39:07.770 ⇒ 00:39:10.321 Uttam Kumaran: okay, I may have to go to that.
394 00:39:10.840 ⇒ 00:39:11.800 Amber Lin: Okay.
395 00:39:12.010 ⇒ 00:39:15.769 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, can I just move the managers to later.
396 00:39:15.770 ⇒ 00:39:17.690 Amber Lin: Yeah, yeah, I’m okay with that.
397 00:39:19.770 ⇒ 00:39:22.690 Uttam Kumaran: Or can you do before operations.
398 00:39:25.820 ⇒ 00:39:29.100 Amber Lin: You’re not free. It’s the marketing.
399 00:39:29.395 ⇒ 00:39:30.870 Uttam Kumaran: Can move the campaigns, thing.
400 00:39:30.870 ⇒ 00:39:35.379 Amber Lin: Oh, sure, yeah, I can fit in whenever you have time.
401 00:39:35.550 ⇒ 00:39:41.990 Amber Lin: Actually, I’ll I’ll put it down. Move it to whenever you are free. I’m gonna add Rico and Giselle.
402 00:39:41.990 ⇒ 00:39:49.689 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t mind. I just want it to be all on Monday, because then it’ll set the stage for the week, really. Well, and then we have some accountability for Mondays.
403 00:39:51.650 ⇒ 00:39:52.310 Amber Lin: Okay.
404 00:39:52.310 ⇒ 00:39:53.170 Uttam Kumaran: Be great.
405 00:39:53.340 ⇒ 00:39:54.100 Amber Lin: Yeah.
406 00:39:57.050 ⇒ 00:39:57.920 Amber Lin: Alright.
407 00:39:57.920 ⇒ 00:40:02.370 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, if you want. If you want Alex to be there, then we can do it later in the day. And like.
408 00:40:03.450 ⇒ 00:40:04.540 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
409 00:40:07.390 ⇒ 00:40:08.510 Amber Lin: What was that? Oh.
410 00:40:08.510 ⇒ 00:40:08.979 Uttam Kumaran: 1 h.
411 00:40:09.580 ⇒ 00:40:10.020 Uttam Kumaran: There’s.
412 00:40:10.020 ⇒ 00:40:15.380 Amber Lin: Here. Alice won’t be able to make that time. If it’s too late, it’s it’s
413 00:40:15.870 ⇒ 00:40:20.790 Amber Lin: it’s a weird time for Rico and Giselle. I.
414 00:40:20.790 ⇒ 00:40:21.510 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s.
415 00:40:21.510 ⇒ 00:40:26.940 Amber Lin: Talk with Alex. We both responded on the flaws person
416 00:40:27.090 ⇒ 00:40:36.560 Amber Lin: like it’s just from blue people. We might need to tell them to not directly put stuff on my calendar. It’s I don’t like how they do it. If that’s what happened.
417 00:40:38.680 ⇒ 00:40:46.440 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, you can tell Rick, just tell Rico to, can we get their resume? And first, st before we book.
418 00:40:47.500 ⇒ 00:40:48.300 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.
419 00:40:50.000 ⇒ 00:40:50.690 Amber Lin: Okay.
420 00:40:52.650 ⇒ 00:40:53.320 Amber Lin: Alright.
421 00:40:56.730 ⇒ 00:40:57.430 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
422 00:40:57.620 ⇒ 00:40:58.380 Uttam Kumaran: Awesome.
423 00:41:00.340 ⇒ 00:41:01.050 Uttam Kumaran: Alright.
424 00:41:01.430 ⇒ 00:41:03.600 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you. Guys. Yeah, let me know how I can help.
425 00:41:03.900 ⇒ 00:41:04.650 Amber Lin: Yeah, thank, you.
426 00:41:04.650 ⇒ 00:41:06.039 Awaish Kumar: Okay. We’ll do.
427 00:41:06.170 ⇒ 00:41:06.830 Amber Lin: Thank you.