Meeting Title: AI-Default-Interlude-Insomnia-ABC Standup Date: 2025-10-16 Meeting participants: Casie Aviles, Samuel Roberts, Rico Rejoso, Uttam Kumaran, Mustafa Raja
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1 00:00:27.960 ⇒ 00:00:28.990 Samuel Roberts: Hello?
2 00:00:29.580 ⇒ 00:00:30.920 Casie Aviles: Hey, good morning.
3 00:00:31.820 ⇒ 00:00:33.280 Samuel Roberts: Good morning, how are you?
4 00:00:34.360 ⇒ 00:00:35.469 Casie Aviles: Yeah, doing good.
5 00:00:36.350 ⇒ 00:00:36.950 Samuel Roberts: Good.
6 00:00:39.540 ⇒ 00:00:41.000 Samuel Roberts: Always yesterday.
7 00:00:42.830 ⇒ 00:00:45.630 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yesterday was alright.
8 00:00:46.000 ⇒ 00:00:52.639 Casie Aviles: I think… I mostly just worked on data work. I think that was for Insomnia.
9 00:00:53.370 ⇒ 00:00:54.120 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
10 00:01:04.980 ⇒ 00:01:05.740 Uttam Kumaran: Hey guys.
11 00:01:08.240 ⇒ 00:01:09.310 Samuel Roberts: Good morning.
12 00:01:10.620 ⇒ 00:01:16.969 Uttam Kumaran: It’s nothing better than I took a sales call, and they yelled at me because they didn’t like what we offered, and…
13 00:01:16.970 ⇒ 00:01:17.720 Samuel Roberts: so much.
14 00:01:17.720 ⇒ 00:01:20.170 Uttam Kumaran: What a great start to the day, guys, like…
15 00:01:20.170 ⇒ 00:01:21.090 Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah.
16 00:01:21.250 ⇒ 00:01:22.199 Samuel Roberts: Hit the ground running.
17 00:01:22.200 ⇒ 00:01:22.930 Uttam Kumaran: Unbelievable.
18 00:01:22.930 ⇒ 00:01:24.560 Samuel Roberts: Oh, jeez. Ugh.
19 00:01:26.030 ⇒ 00:01:28.909 Uttam Kumaran: Some guy… they’ve been stringing us along for months.
20 00:01:29.860 ⇒ 00:01:33.939 Uttam Kumaran: And then he’s like, well, can you prepare another deck for something else? And I was like, look.
21 00:01:34.440 ⇒ 00:01:42.039 Uttam Kumaran: we’ve done, like, 5 or 6 meetings. I… anything past this has to be paid discovery, because I can’t dedicate more time.
22 00:01:42.430 ⇒ 00:01:42.750 Samuel Roberts: Right.
23 00:01:42.750 ⇒ 00:01:46.420 Uttam Kumaran: interested in working with us, and it’s worth it, then we should do that. Otherwise, like.
24 00:01:46.900 ⇒ 00:01:51.899 Uttam Kumaran: And he’s like, well, I think you should blah blah blah. I was like, what?
25 00:01:52.530 ⇒ 00:01:53.890 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know the words.
26 00:01:53.930 ⇒ 00:01:55.860 Uttam Kumaran: an odd situation.
27 00:01:57.350 ⇒ 00:02:03.950 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, they’re trying to get some free… free workout, or just think you might be helpful. Yeah, like, they’re not… they’re not doing anything helpful.
28 00:02:04.740 ⇒ 00:02:06.519 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. They’re not… yeah.
29 00:02:06.520 ⇒ 00:02:10.859 Samuel Roberts: Not helping us or helping them, really, right now, they’re just trying to get something, whatever they can. Ugh.
30 00:02:11.730 ⇒ 00:02:14.089 Uttam Kumaran: How’s everybody else?
31 00:02:15.140 ⇒ 00:02:15.840 Mustafa Raja: Good.
32 00:02:17.000 ⇒ 00:02:17.620 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
33 00:02:18.230 ⇒ 00:02:18.820 Samuel Roberts: Okay, morning.
34 00:02:18.820 ⇒ 00:02:19.440 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
35 00:02:20.690 ⇒ 00:02:22.170 Uttam Kumaran: Nice, so let’s…
36 00:02:22.350 ⇒ 00:02:29.880 Uttam Kumaran: Check this out. It’s like, I’m just, like, not… like, I’m not, like, a salesperson where I can just have, like, really emotional conversations and, like…
37 00:02:30.570 ⇒ 00:02:34.860 Uttam Kumaran: quickly, like, get happy again. I’m getting better at it, but, like…
38 00:02:35.270 ⇒ 00:02:36.920 Samuel Roberts: That’s hard to compartmentalize.
39 00:02:37.150 ⇒ 00:02:42.299 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and it’s so tough, like, this is the toughest part about my… my job, is just, like, we have…
40 00:02:42.810 ⇒ 00:02:47.400 Uttam Kumaran: at any moment, like, so many people are trying to screw us, and I was just like…
41 00:02:48.260 ⇒ 00:02:52.279 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just so tough, like, I don’t wish that on anyone, it’s brutal.
42 00:02:52.280 ⇒ 00:02:57.160 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, oh my god. We had to deal with that with some customer service at the hair care company, where, like.
43 00:02:57.340 ⇒ 00:03:03.139 Samuel Roberts: All the people we hired were just getting yelled at for things, so we started using fake names for them, and that helped a little bit.
44 00:03:03.730 ⇒ 00:03:05.079 Samuel Roberts: But they were just like.
45 00:03:05.080 ⇒ 00:03:05.870 Uttam Kumaran: I can’t.
46 00:03:06.100 ⇒ 00:03:11.010 Samuel Roberts: You know, when the box goes wrong, we’re like, we’re gonna fix it, but some people take it so personally, and so it’s like…
47 00:03:11.010 ⇒ 00:03:16.630 Uttam Kumaran: No, and this is so tough, because, look, we work with big clients that are willing to pay, and appreciate our expertise, and…
48 00:03:16.630 ⇒ 00:03:17.100 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
49 00:03:17.100 ⇒ 00:03:19.669 Uttam Kumaran: We can’t go… we don’t go into a client knowing everything.
50 00:03:19.890 ⇒ 00:03:29.410 Uttam Kumaran: like, this is what happens, like, you can’t. So, we… unless the prize is way bigger, I can’t, so if you want to work with us, just pay the couple hundred bucks.
51 00:03:29.410 ⇒ 00:03:31.100 Samuel Roberts: We can start working on things.
52 00:03:31.670 ⇒ 00:03:32.960 Uttam Kumaran: You know? Right.
53 00:03:32.960 ⇒ 00:03:33.479 Samuel Roberts: Pick a theory.
54 00:03:33.480 ⇒ 00:03:34.960 Uttam Kumaran: You said some people, like, they…
55 00:03:36.560 ⇒ 00:03:41.730 Uttam Kumaran: they’re just trying to take advantage. And, like, 2 years ago, I got strung along, like, 10.
56 00:03:41.730 ⇒ 00:03:42.699 Samuel Roberts: It’s a meeting.
57 00:03:42.700 ⇒ 00:03:48.620 Uttam Kumaran: These days, like, I like to learn from my own lessons, so…
58 00:03:49.070 ⇒ 00:03:50.229 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, definitely.
59 00:03:51.360 ⇒ 00:03:59.490 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, okay, so let me just… Place to the side… Great.
60 00:04:04.070 ⇒ 00:04:11.290 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, so… let’s talk about stuff for defaults, so,
61 00:04:12.480 ⇒ 00:04:17.580 Uttam Kumaran: No updates here yet, I… I… this is on me to figure this out before,
62 00:04:18.519 ⇒ 00:04:23.830 Uttam Kumaran: For the default meeting. But, that should be fine.
63 00:04:24.130 ⇒ 00:04:27.090 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna put that in my calendar…
64 00:04:28.620 ⇒ 00:04:36.979 Uttam Kumaran: And then I’m working on… I’ve started working on this yesterday. We kind of created a new framework, so two things that I guess I can share here, and I’ll…
65 00:04:37.260 ⇒ 00:04:46.400 Uttam Kumaran: Sharon, the next meeting, too, is… Not this… So…
66 00:04:48.010 ⇒ 00:04:58.149 Uttam Kumaran: So, we created, like, two sets of requirement, like, kind of templates, one for new dashboards. So, anytime there’s a new dashboard request.
67 00:04:58.360 ⇒ 00:05:04.529 Uttam Kumaran: Ideally, like, one of these documents will get created as part of the ticket, it will get approved, and then…
68 00:05:04.640 ⇒ 00:05:12.890 Uttam Kumaran: the dashboard execution will be the next ticket. Similarly for analysis, We created a analysis outline.
69 00:05:13.000 ⇒ 00:05:21.960 Uttam Kumaran: So, for example, on insomnia, I think, there may be some asks around, like, hey, put together an analysis around
70 00:05:22.060 ⇒ 00:05:38.039 Uttam Kumaran: drop in conversion. As an analyst, you would go through and fill this out, which is just like, okay, what is this for? What are the business questions? What are the outcomes? What are, like, kind of the hypotheses? And this could be something that we do a meeting about, or we sort of go back and forth on Slack, and then…
71 00:05:38.290 ⇒ 00:05:40.330 Uttam Kumaran: Once this gets filled out.
72 00:05:40.490 ⇒ 00:05:59.819 Uttam Kumaran: like a lead analyst, right now it’s mainly just Robert, would go through and approve or give feedback, and then it would move to execution. We’ve also created these, like, linear ticket templates for analysis outlines. Something I’m gonna work on on Friday is just creating, like, better templates in linear, so that when we create a new.
73 00:05:59.820 ⇒ 00:06:01.200 Samuel Roberts: It’s not just about the same.
74 00:06:01.200 ⇒ 00:06:05.370 Uttam Kumaran: It’s easy for me to fill out. You guys can… are now watching me create tickets on the fly, so…
75 00:06:05.540 ⇒ 00:06:12.820 Uttam Kumaran: That process will get a bit better, and so we’ll start to identify all types of work, and then we will have templates, ideally, for
76 00:06:13.130 ⇒ 00:06:17.430 Uttam Kumaran: Most of them, or some that can cover a bunch, so…
77 00:06:17.620 ⇒ 00:06:21.670 Uttam Kumaran: just a new process. So, for default, I feel pretty good. I think the only thing…
78 00:06:22.040 ⇒ 00:06:28.250 Uttam Kumaran: Mustafa, we haven’t gotten to is this, which is, like, adding customer ARR to the dashboard.
79 00:06:28.970 ⇒ 00:06:31.859 Uttam Kumaran: Did you wanna take this?
80 00:06:32.020 ⇒ 00:06:37.459 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, so, the only, concern over here would be ACV.
81 00:06:37.560 ⇒ 00:06:45.150 Mustafa Raja: it says that, Caitlin confirmed that the desired field would be ACV, which we can get from Hyperline data.
82 00:06:45.250 ⇒ 00:06:48.529 Mustafa Raja: So if I can get access to that, that will be really good.
83 00:06:49.120 ⇒ 00:06:51.630 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I have Hyperline… we have Hyperline access.
84 00:06:51.910 ⇒ 00:06:59.789 Mustafa Raja: Oh, okay, yeah. I’ll look into that then. I’ll prepare a CSV for Avish, so he can add that to Mother Dark.
85 00:07:00.080 ⇒ 00:07:00.810 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
86 00:07:00.810 ⇒ 00:07:05.300 Uttam Kumaran: Let me… yeah, let me just, confirm.
87 00:07:10.100 ⇒ 00:07:12.800 Uttam Kumaran: Hold on one second…
88 00:07:18.820 ⇒ 00:07:21.680 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, you can log in with Brainforge at default.com.
89 00:07:21.980 ⇒ 00:07:22.600 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
90 00:07:26.170 ⇒ 00:07:27.259 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ll do that.
91 00:07:32.040 ⇒ 00:07:32.910 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.
92 00:07:33.590 ⇒ 00:07:34.210 Mustafa Raja: No.
93 00:07:34.370 ⇒ 00:07:40.940 Mustafa Raja: So I’ll prepare, prepare a CSV for, Aish, with, ACVs.
94 00:07:41.220 ⇒ 00:07:42.360 Mustafa Raja: for domains.
95 00:07:42.870 ⇒ 00:07:45.340 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah, you can actually upload it yourself, too.
96 00:07:45.890 ⇒ 00:07:53.349 Mustafa Raja: Last time I tried, it said that the Mother DuckDB can only be updated by its creator or something.
97 00:07:54.150 ⇒ 00:07:55.150 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.
98 00:07:55.860 ⇒ 00:07:56.480 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
99 00:07:58.500 ⇒ 00:08:02.419 Uttam Kumaran: Whaaat… Okay, start a thread in,
100 00:08:04.140 ⇒ 00:08:06.210 Uttam Kumaran: Start a thread in the default channel, and then…
101 00:08:06.210 ⇒ 00:08:06.660 Mustafa Raja: I’ll do that.
102 00:08:06.660 ⇒ 00:08:07.939 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we’ll see. Okay, okay.
103 00:08:08.120 ⇒ 00:08:09.040 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.
104 00:08:09.470 ⇒ 00:08:19.649 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, so I’m getting confirmation today on this as well, which is, like, initializing their Mother Duck instance, and then we’ll go through PDL with Caitlin today, so that’s fine.
105 00:08:19.750 ⇒ 00:08:28.949 Uttam Kumaran: Insomnia, I saw several updates yesterday, so I guess I can probably move… The taxonomy to review.
106 00:08:29.910 ⇒ 00:08:42.340 Uttam Kumaran: And then… I am… Talking about… yeah, I’m talking through this… And then…
107 00:08:43.440 ⇒ 00:08:46.210 Uttam Kumaran: This one is an analysis question.
108 00:08:46.400 ⇒ 00:08:49.760 Uttam Kumaran: So, for this, this is a good example of…
109 00:08:50.010 ⇒ 00:08:59.739 Uttam Kumaran: Something that we would want to put through… our analysis outline, so, I think… I guess…
110 00:08:59.900 ⇒ 00:09:03.869 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, Casey, are you interested in taking this one on?
111 00:09:05.360 ⇒ 00:09:07.420 Casie Aviles: Mmm, yeah, I mean, I can…
112 00:09:07.420 ⇒ 00:09:10.010 Uttam Kumaran: Or I guess, how much capacity? Yeah.
113 00:09:10.010 ⇒ 00:09:17.179 Casie Aviles: I have capacity, but yeah, I’m muted this, so I’m going to be, you know, exploring that.
114 00:09:17.330 ⇒ 00:09:22.059 Casie Aviles: I mean, I don’t mind taking it, but yeah, I’ll just probably ask for a review.
115 00:09:22.850 ⇒ 00:09:31.230 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Yeah, I think, I think it could be worth… Trying…
116 00:09:35.080 ⇒ 00:09:42.690 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think it could be worth trying, see what you get to. Ideally, again, we wanna… we wanna put together the,
117 00:09:43.420 ⇒ 00:09:46.810 Uttam Kumaran: We want to put together the analysis outline.
118 00:09:47.030 ⇒ 00:09:50.390 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna pull this up again…
119 00:09:52.840 ⇒ 00:09:55.999 Uttam Kumaran: So what you can do is you can create a,
120 00:09:56.990 ⇒ 00:10:05.729 Uttam Kumaran: So, one is create copy of… in Insomnia Docs…
121 00:10:06.500 ⇒ 00:10:11.990 Uttam Kumaran: Fill out, and then submit to Robert for review.
122 00:10:12.760 ⇒ 00:10:18.009 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So yeah, because I’m gonna have Mustafa working on a few other things for Insomnia, so…
123 00:10:18.550 ⇒ 00:10:24.450 Uttam Kumaran: Give it a shot. I mean, I think it could be interesting. I’ve… again, you can lean on…
124 00:10:24.850 ⇒ 00:10:28.219 Uttam Kumaran: Lean on… lean on me or Sam, the channel for support.
125 00:10:29.020 ⇒ 00:10:30.340 Casie Aviles: Sure, sure, yeah.
126 00:10:30.840 ⇒ 00:10:31.710 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.
127 00:10:32.560 ⇒ 00:10:39.390 Uttam Kumaran: And then… I think that’s…
128 00:10:40.290 ⇒ 00:10:43.790 Uttam Kumaran: It for this today, so we’re gonna wait on some reviews.
129 00:10:43.890 ⇒ 00:10:50.699 Uttam Kumaran: from… Robert… So thanks for getting these done. And then let’s talk about…
130 00:10:50.700 ⇒ 00:10:52.740 Samuel Roberts: 58, is there… oh, sorry.
131 00:10:53.320 ⇒ 00:10:54.949 Samuel Roberts: I haven’t…
132 00:10:55.010 ⇒ 00:10:57.159 Uttam Kumaran: There’s nothing there yet.
133 00:10:57.160 ⇒ 00:11:02.489 Samuel Roberts: So I was just making sure. I looked a little bit, but I felt a little lost in that sheet, and I didn’t get a ton into it, but…
134 00:11:02.840 ⇒ 00:11:07.729 Uttam Kumaran: No, I think I’m just, like… my… my calendar just keeps… the stuff is just keeps.
135 00:11:07.730 ⇒ 00:11:08.130 Samuel Roberts: Thank you.
136 00:11:08.130 ⇒ 00:11:08.820 Uttam Kumaran: get pushed, so…
137 00:11:08.820 ⇒ 00:11:11.409 Samuel Roberts: No, no, you’re good. I just want to make sure I’m not, you know…
138 00:11:11.410 ⇒ 00:11:12.890 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, it’s not anything.
139 00:11:12.890 ⇒ 00:11:14.730 Samuel Roberts: Okay. Okay, that’s fine.
140 00:11:15.500 ⇒ 00:11:16.360 Uttam Kumaran: Book card.
141 00:11:17.380 ⇒ 00:11:18.720 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you for checking.
142 00:11:19.140 ⇒ 00:11:19.860 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, no problem.
143 00:11:20.090 ⇒ 00:11:20.770 Uttam Kumaran: And then for…
144 00:11:20.770 ⇒ 00:11:27.530 Casie Aviles: for the meta ads automation? Is this something… That’s.
145 00:11:27.530 ⇒ 00:11:42.480 Uttam Kumaran: it’s not gonna be possible until I… I get access to stuff, so I’m gonna leave it just here, because we’re… we’re finding out about access to Amazon and a few other things, so it may… it may… I may get some more details on this this week, but…
146 00:11:42.760 ⇒ 00:11:47.150 Uttam Kumaran: It’s sort of blocked right now, so I’m gonna… I’ll just put it… move it to blocked, actually.
147 00:11:49.150 ⇒ 00:11:50.680 Uttam Kumaran: That way, it’s pretty clear.
148 00:11:52.960 ⇒ 00:11:53.670 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
149 00:11:55.000 ⇒ 00:11:58.909 Uttam Kumaran: And then… let’s talk about,
150 00:11:59.630 ⇒ 00:12:07.960 Uttam Kumaran: AI team stuff, so, I know, Mustafa, you’re going to… you’re sharing… this is all, like, pushed and merged?
151 00:12:11.930 ⇒ 00:12:12.770 Samuel Roberts: You’re muted.
152 00:12:13.170 ⇒ 00:12:19.680 Mustafa Raja: Yes, for the delivery dashboard transformation that is merged,
153 00:12:20.920 ⇒ 00:12:27.210 Mustafa Raja: For Clockify, the 554, there wasn’t really any movement in that, to be honest.
154 00:12:27.860 ⇒ 00:12:41.179 Mustafa Raja: And I think, since Ricoh would be, taking a look at that, creating dashboard through the data that we have, or the topic that we have created, we can assign this to Ricoh 554.
155 00:12:41.790 ⇒ 00:12:42.370 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
156 00:12:46.870 ⇒ 00:12:53.309 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. So, was Rico able to get… Into the system.
157 00:12:53.750 ⇒ 00:13:03.709 Mustafa Raja: So, Rico and I met yesterday, and, he didn’t have access to, Brainford Snowflake, but I, .
158 00:13:03.710 ⇒ 00:13:05.230 Uttam Kumaran: I updated, I fixed that, yeah.
159 00:13:05.230 ⇒ 00:13:16.959 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, in the meeting, I, I created a few, charts, with the, with the topic, so, so you can see how, how Omni, works.
160 00:13:17.910 ⇒ 00:13:18.590 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
161 00:13:18.900 ⇒ 00:13:21.919 Mustafa Raja: Though the model right now isn’t really perfect, so…
162 00:13:23.250 ⇒ 00:13:23.860 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
163 00:13:25.960 ⇒ 00:13:33.150 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, that’s fine. And then… yeah, I guess, any progress on anything in Todo?
164 00:13:34.060 ⇒ 00:13:36.990 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it just… Md is in… oh, sorry.
165 00:13:37.460 ⇒ 00:13:38.210 Mustafa Raja: No, no.
166 00:13:38.210 ⇒ 00:13:43.530 Samuel Roberts: This is… this is… I got a rough version of it. I was working on getting all those APIs for the endpoints that Casey
167 00:13:43.710 ⇒ 00:13:46.020 Samuel Roberts: Set up an Azure into that.
168 00:13:46.020 ⇒ 00:13:49.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, this fairly, like… Comprehensive.
169 00:13:49.920 ⇒ 00:13:55.120 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, it’s got pretty much… I didn’t add the pre-commits yet, I haven’t done…
170 00:13:55.250 ⇒ 00:13:58.199 Samuel Roberts: But that’s, like, not necessarily part of the Agency MD.
171 00:13:58.200 ⇒ 00:13:58.870 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
172 00:13:59.620 ⇒ 00:14:01.080 Samuel Roberts: So, like, that’s just another step.
173 00:14:01.080 ⇒ 00:14:02.840 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
174 00:14:02.840 ⇒ 00:14:20.239 Samuel Roberts: And I actually might… we might even want that for, like, PR instead of just every commit, is my thought, maybe. But yeah, I’ll dig into that a little bit more, but yeah, just something quick that, like, explains what the repo is and stuff, and then mentions the, master stuff, and the APIs we have access to now is what I’m updating, so…
175 00:14:20.400 ⇒ 00:14:23.180 Samuel Roberts: Should be able to get that in soonish, and then…
176 00:14:23.510 ⇒ 00:14:29.160 Samuel Roberts: You can see how it does, and then make tweaks over time as it… as codecs and cursor make use of it, so…
177 00:14:29.410 ⇒ 00:14:29.980 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
178 00:14:31.340 ⇒ 00:14:35.870 Samuel Roberts: I had an issue with the GPT-5, I think?
179 00:14:35.970 ⇒ 00:14:37.230 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.
180 00:14:37.230 ⇒ 00:14:39.340 Samuel Roberts: the… the URL endpoint
181 00:14:39.440 ⇒ 00:14:53.450 Samuel Roberts: for that in Azure is slightly different, and I’m not sure if I can just move it around. I gotta play with it a little bit, but I just kind of left that one commented out for now until I figure that out. But we’ve got… what do we have? We had 4… oh, to begin with.
182 00:14:53.990 ⇒ 00:14:59.990 Samuel Roberts: Now we have 04 Mini and 5 Mini? I forget which ones, Casey, you set up, but…
183 00:14:59.990 ⇒ 00:15:00.610 Casie Aviles: And…
184 00:15:00.830 ⇒ 00:15:06.009 Samuel Roberts: They’re all there, I tested them out, like, they’re definitely different speeds and stuff, I didn’t really look at the outputs, but,
185 00:15:06.710 ⇒ 00:15:17.849 Samuel Roberts: Unfortunately, Moscow, like, does a really good job if you just drop in an open API key of, like, giving you a drop-down in their thing of, like, all the different models for OpenAI, but for Azure, I think we gotta go a little more…
186 00:15:19.560 ⇒ 00:15:29.540 Samuel Roberts: a little more, specific with each one. So for testing, might be worth using the OpenAI key, and then once we get something settled, jumping that, but I’ll explain all that in somewhere, so…
187 00:15:29.680 ⇒ 00:15:31.129 Samuel Roberts: I’m just testing that still.
188 00:15:31.530 ⇒ 00:15:35.190 Samuel Roberts: But yeah, those are in progress. And the monster info, I guess, I don’t know if that’s…
189 00:15:35.510 ⇒ 00:15:38.339 Samuel Roberts: Related to this, or is that, like, more…
190 00:15:38.840 ⇒ 00:15:42.849 Samuel Roberts: I don’t remember what this is. Yeah, the APIs, that’s going on with this. Okay, so that’s happening, too.
191 00:15:43.220 ⇒ 00:15:44.129 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.
192 00:15:44.380 ⇒ 00:15:51.960 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and then my only ask today was if we can start to ticket out, migrations to Mostra, and then…
193 00:15:52.070 ⇒ 00:15:55.239 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, also migrations from… to, like.
194 00:15:55.830 ⇒ 00:15:57.959 Uttam Kumaran: the backend. Like, if we can run…
195 00:15:59.010 ⇒ 00:16:02.690 Uttam Kumaran: some of those Zoom jobs, or otherwise, like, on Heroku.
196 00:16:02.690 ⇒ 00:16:03.260 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
197 00:16:03.260 ⇒ 00:16:04.600 Uttam Kumaran: Shove all of those there.
198 00:16:05.170 ⇒ 00:16:21.320 Samuel Roberts: I think, yeah, my first thought, now that I… so I went… I responded earlier. I went through the SOP and, like, understood how client hubs get created, went through the client hubs, made some diagrams so that I understand how they work, and what pieces we can start pulling in. Because I think the first piece will be just, like, making a…
199 00:16:21.320 ⇒ 00:16:26.759 Samuel Roberts: Generic client hub that takes a client input, so we can not have to recreate it every time, too.
200 00:16:27.250 ⇒ 00:16:28.860 Uttam Kumaran: But obviously.
201 00:16:28.860 ⇒ 00:16:35.200 Samuel Roberts: So, like, I would leave, you know, the Daxter windmill stuff for now, and then just get it so that we have more control over
202 00:16:35.240 ⇒ 00:16:50.790 Samuel Roberts: you know, not having to make them every time, just creating a client, and it knows there might be a little bit of work, but yeah, that’s my… my initial plan is still kind of percolating here, but I can get that down into, like, a big ticket, and we can start sub-ticketing it and stuff, so I think… I think I have a good idea for that now. I just haven’t had the…
203 00:16:51.080 ⇒ 00:16:54.780 Samuel Roberts: the time or the priority to really just jump in, but I think that’s good.
204 00:16:54.780 ⇒ 00:16:55.370 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
205 00:16:55.800 ⇒ 00:16:56.700 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.
206 00:16:56.770 ⇒ 00:16:59.520 Samuel Roberts: And then what I’m gonna do is…
207 00:16:59.760 ⇒ 00:17:02.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m gonna mark some of these.
208 00:17:02.740 ⇒ 00:17:07.120 Uttam Kumaran: Here’s the priority, so that one pulls up, yeah, 561 is here.
209 00:17:08.720 ⇒ 00:17:15.259 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Alright, that’s probably it, so one thing I didn’t get to yesterday, but…
210 00:17:15.410 ⇒ 00:17:18.019 Uttam Kumaran: I’m sort of thinking about,
211 00:17:19.089 ⇒ 00:17:36.509 Uttam Kumaran: kind of creating, like, helpful UI for every step of the PM process. Like, you guys are now seeing what it’s like to run stand-up, what it’s like to run grooming, there’s also the process of meeting with the client, so I’m kind of thinking about, like, instead of having…
212 00:17:36.820 ⇒ 00:17:37.660 Uttam Kumaran: like…
213 00:17:38.200 ⇒ 00:17:45.230 Uttam Kumaran: maybe it is composed of different tools, but it’s almost gonna be something that supports the PM based on the Agile
214 00:17:45.360 ⇒ 00:17:46.920 Uttam Kumaran: Phase that they’re in.
215 00:17:47.070 ⇒ 00:18:02.160 Uttam Kumaran: So, for example, you could think about, like, a PM walks into the forge, and there is something around grooming, and what do you do when… so grooming brings in the most recent meetings, you can create tickets for meetings, you can bulk edit things.
216 00:18:02.280 ⇒ 00:18:05.610 Uttam Kumaran: You can bulk create tickets, so, like.
217 00:18:06.170 ⇒ 00:18:10.869 Uttam Kumaran: I’m trying to just think about, like, okay, if I’m grooming tickets, like, what do I need in front of me?
218 00:18:11.060 ⇒ 00:18:22.520 Uttam Kumaran: In order to do that best and easiest. Right now, it’s very manual, because I have to sort of run that meeting, change a bunch of things, then have a bunch of to-dos for later, never get to the to-dos, and so…
219 00:18:22.820 ⇒ 00:18:29.050 Uttam Kumaran: kind of something I’m trying to think about is, like, UIs that are helpful you know.
220 00:18:29.450 ⇒ 00:18:32.800 Uttam Kumaran: for each phase of, of, of Agile.
221 00:18:33.740 ⇒ 00:18:34.330 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
222 00:18:34.510 ⇒ 00:18:45.199 Uttam Kumaran: Sprint review is another one. So, like, for Sprint Review, I need to look at all the tickets that were done, I need to look at stuff that… like, so I need to look at state changes, I need to then summarize out of all the tickets that were done.
223 00:18:45.770 ⇒ 00:18:55.980 Uttam Kumaran: throw that into context, get a summary. I need to maybe, like, export a deck outline. But these are all these, like, kind of, like, the first version of this is just probably, like.
224 00:18:56.420 ⇒ 00:19:08.729 Uttam Kumaran: several things from Looker and… from Linear and Zoom into a couple different prompts. So I’m gonna kind of mock up, I think, like, a UI that could help do this. Maybe see if I can get, like, a very…
225 00:19:09.030 ⇒ 00:19:11.350 Uttam Kumaran: Kind of, like, crappy proof of concept.
226 00:19:11.710 ⇒ 00:19:16.189 Uttam Kumaran: working locally, and then I can hand it off. I think this is where, like.
227 00:19:16.450 ⇒ 00:19:22.420 Uttam Kumaran: it would just take so long for me to write this, like, what I’m… I don’t even… I have to iterate to even get to something.
228 00:19:22.680 ⇒ 00:19:39.329 Uttam Kumaran: So, I will… I’ll do that, and then… but I’m not gonna get everything right. I think having Mastra is helpful, having the endpoints for all the other stuff is helpful, and then I can kind of create a branch with this, and then we can see. I mean, I need it selfishly just to run all these now, so…
229 00:19:39.330 ⇒ 00:19:39.760 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
230 00:19:39.760 ⇒ 00:19:40.940 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
231 00:19:41.630 ⇒ 00:19:47.039 Samuel Roberts: One thing I was thinking about, I like that new standalone linear ticket generator. I was wondering…
232 00:19:47.430 ⇒ 00:19:51.570 Samuel Roberts: If there’s a good way we can either make a way to jump to that from a meeting.
233 00:19:51.880 ⇒ 00:19:52.840 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly, yeah.
234 00:19:52.840 ⇒ 00:19:53.480 Samuel Roberts: Or, or…
235 00:19:53.480 ⇒ 00:19:53.940 Uttam Kumaran: like.
236 00:19:53.940 ⇒ 00:20:07.060 Samuel Roberts: So, like, if there’s a specific… because I was thinking, like, oh, you could pull in a meeting, and then this is a better UI than the video and the chat, and then the bottom being linear. But you gotta know which meeting to pull in first if you’re getting ready.
237 00:20:07.440 ⇒ 00:20:13.089 Samuel Roberts: Or you want multiple meetings, so I’m wondering if there’s a good way to just, like, expand that quickly in a way that’s, like.
238 00:20:13.440 ⇒ 00:20:19.349 Samuel Roberts: If you have a bunch of meetings selected, maybe you click a button that says, you know, jump to linear ticket generator or something.
239 00:20:19.350 ⇒ 00:20:19.880 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
240 00:20:19.880 ⇒ 00:20:25.240 Samuel Roberts: and it pulls all those in. And, like, just something in the meantime until we can get, like, a good
241 00:20:25.450 ⇒ 00:20:26.360 Samuel Roberts: you know.
242 00:20:26.950 ⇒ 00:20:34.779 Samuel Roberts: UI experience, like, I’m trying to think, like, what we can get, like, quick wins so that you can still do this stuff while still improving it, you know?
243 00:20:34.780 ⇒ 00:20:35.250 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
244 00:20:35.250 ⇒ 00:20:40.099 Samuel Roberts: I feel like copying the transcripts is unnecessary, but you have to know which meeting it is, and that’s still a little bit…
245 00:20:40.100 ⇒ 00:20:46.480 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s the thing, in the linear ticket generator, this morning, I was like, maybe all the… maybe the… maybe the meetings have to show up there.
246 00:20:46.650 ⇒ 00:20:48.279 Samuel Roberts: Or like you said… I wasn’t thinking that.
247 00:20:48.420 ⇒ 00:20:49.880 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, go ahead.
248 00:20:50.570 ⇒ 00:20:53.849 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, the meetings have to basically show up within the… within the…
249 00:20:54.240 ⇒ 00:20:56.999 Uttam Kumaran: Take a generator tool, or it’s, like.
250 00:20:57.440 ⇒ 00:21:07.089 Uttam Kumaran: you think of that anywhere you go in the platform, you always have a meeting, a chatbot, and then you can select, like, another tool to bring in, or something, right? Because… yeah, I don’t know.
251 00:21:07.090 ⇒ 00:21:07.830 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
252 00:21:07.830 ⇒ 00:21:10.159 Uttam Kumaran: Cause everything here is gonna be built on, like.
253 00:21:10.590 ⇒ 00:21:12.870 Uttam Kumaran: Most of it’s gonna be built on meetings.
254 00:21:13.260 ⇒ 00:21:21.820 Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Yeah, my first past thought is, like, a button from a meeting, So, like…
255 00:21:22.040 ⇒ 00:21:28.539 Samuel Roberts: You just click that button, it takes you to the linear ticket generator, and, like, auto-fills the transcript for you right now.
256 00:21:28.910 ⇒ 00:21:29.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
257 00:21:30.190 ⇒ 00:21:38.989 Samuel Roberts: But that’s just, like, one meeting. We could potentially try to do multiple. But I think as we start moving this ClientHub stuff into Mastro, we’ll start to break apart the pieces of it.
258 00:21:39.130 ⇒ 00:21:47.080 Samuel Roberts: And then, like, the Zoom summary thing can be used somewhere else, and, you know, those pieces will start to become more…
259 00:21:47.280 ⇒ 00:21:49.799 Samuel Roberts: like, LEGO pieces that can be, like…
260 00:21:50.530 ⇒ 00:21:59.539 Samuel Roberts: picked apart and restructured into different flows in different places, because right now it’s hard to do with DNA to end. So, I feel like long-term, there’s a better solution here, but I’m just trying to think, like, quickly.
261 00:21:59.910 ⇒ 00:22:07.070 Samuel Roberts: rather than copying and pasting transcripts and still, you know… I don’t know if that’s worth pointing out or trying to do something like that while you’re figuring this out, but,
262 00:22:07.220 ⇒ 00:22:08.199 Samuel Roberts: Just a thought.
263 00:22:08.770 ⇒ 00:22:13.499 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m gonna maybe… I’ll do some ideation, and then I’ll probably drive towards…
264 00:22:13.840 ⇒ 00:22:24.590 Uttam Kumaran: something that works, because I really need it for next week. This week was really unsustainable. So, I’m gonna try to just get something that works, and then once you guys, I think, see…
265 00:22:24.930 ⇒ 00:22:30.620 Uttam Kumaran: my, like… it’ll maybe be a janky workflow. We can think about, like, how to… how to expand it a bit.
266 00:22:31.510 ⇒ 00:22:32.090 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
267 00:22:33.390 ⇒ 00:22:39.340 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, because it’s a mix of, like, after every stand-up, there are to-dos, there are tickets that get created, tickets get updated, tickets get deleted.
268 00:22:39.770 ⇒ 00:22:41.630 Uttam Kumaran: It’s get sent to clients, so there’s, like.
269 00:22:42.310 ⇒ 00:22:47.229 Uttam Kumaran: I want a hub for every part of Agile, like, okay, after a stand-up meeting.
270 00:22:47.940 ⇒ 00:22:52.190 Uttam Kumaran: like, right now, we produce a… like, Ricoh takes track of everything.
271 00:22:52.600 ⇒ 00:22:53.070 Samuel Roberts: Right. But there’s.
272 00:22:53.070 ⇒ 00:22:57.889 Uttam Kumaran: all these tasks to do that I want to start to offload. Similarly, when we’re…
273 00:22:58.010 ⇒ 00:23:01.549 Uttam Kumaran: doing grooming and things like that, so… I’ll think about it.
274 00:23:02.020 ⇒ 00:23:09.980 Samuel Roberts: Would it be a… Sorry, not to keep spinning on this, but, a different meeting view that’s less…
275 00:23:10.430 ⇒ 00:23:15.269 Samuel Roberts: Focused on the chat and the video, and more focused on, like, a bunch of other tools.
276 00:23:17.210 ⇒ 00:23:18.400 Uttam Kumaran: Mmm…
277 00:23:19.150 ⇒ 00:23:21.770 Samuel Roberts: So, there’s, like, a PM meeting view that, like.
278 00:23:22.810 ⇒ 00:23:30.720 Samuel Roberts: Because eventually, like, the chat could just do this, and some of these things could be automated and spit out into Slack, or whatever that works, but…
279 00:23:30.720 ⇒ 00:23:31.300 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
280 00:23:31.790 ⇒ 00:23:37.150 Samuel Roberts: I’m just trying to think, like, where… where’s the best place to, you know, do you want a bunch of places you have to jump to, which still feels like…
281 00:23:37.740 ⇒ 00:23:44.429 Samuel Roberts: not quite as streamlined. I don’t know. I’m just spitballing here, so maybe, yeah, do a little bit of thinking and playing around with.
282 00:23:44.430 ⇒ 00:23:45.050 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
283 00:23:45.360 ⇒ 00:23:47.140 Samuel Roberts: what is it, magic patterns, and see what you can…
284 00:23:47.140 ⇒ 00:23:47.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
285 00:23:48.080 ⇒ 00:23:54.370 Samuel Roberts: come up with. But, yeah, I think picking those things out and moving things into Mastro will help a lot with this, because then we’ll have
286 00:23:54.590 ⇒ 00:23:58.839 Samuel Roberts: Tools and workflows and agents that are… that we can mix and match, or whatever.
287 00:23:58.840 ⇒ 00:23:59.410 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
288 00:24:00.300 ⇒ 00:24:01.449 Samuel Roberts: I’m excited about that.
289 00:24:02.250 ⇒ 00:24:03.370 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.
290 00:24:04.250 ⇒ 00:24:06.099 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Thanks, guys.
291 00:24:06.400 ⇒ 00:24:14.990 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, next stand-up is in, like, an hour or so, and then, yeah, I’m gonna be… it’s gonna be, like, a big day of trying to get some stuff out for clients, and I have some…
292 00:24:15.180 ⇒ 00:24:20.420 Uttam Kumaran: follow-ups with clients, so… yeah. And then I’ll move that interlude meeting to tomorrow, so…
293 00:24:21.170 ⇒ 00:24:26.679 Samuel Roberts: Okay, cool. I was… I was… I realized this morning, and as I went on and saw he said something, I was like, oh, okay.
294 00:24:27.400 ⇒ 00:24:28.040 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Cool, perfect.
295 00:24:28.040 ⇒ 00:24:28.690 Samuel Roberts: Alright.
296 00:24:28.690 ⇒ 00:24:29.919 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, thank you guys.
297 00:24:29.920 ⇒ 00:24:31.040 Mustafa Raja: Thank you.
298 00:24:31.040 ⇒ 00:24:31.980 Casie Aviles: Go on, Pat. Thank you.
299 00:24:31.980 ⇒ 00:24:32.400 Mustafa Raja: Right.
300 00:24:32.400 ⇒ 00:24:32.860 Samuel Roberts: Right.