Meeting Title: AI-Default-Interlude-Insomnia Standup Date: 2025-10-13 Meeting participants: Casie Aviles, Samuel Roberts, Mustafa Raja, Robert Tseng, Uttam Kumaran, Rico Rejoso
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1 00:00:22.220 ⇒ 00:00:23.220 Samuel Roberts: Good morning.
2 00:00:27.810 ⇒ 00:00:29.409 Casie Aviles: May the morning, so…
3 00:00:30.640 ⇒ 00:00:31.489 Samuel Roberts: How are you?
4 00:00:33.950 ⇒ 00:00:35.060 Casie Aviles: Doing good.
5 00:00:35.180 ⇒ 00:00:37.830 Casie Aviles: It’s going to be a busy day, so… yeah.
6 00:00:37.830 ⇒ 00:00:39.480 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, seems like it.
7 00:00:44.530 ⇒ 00:00:45.720 Samuel Roberts: Hey, Mustafa.
8 00:00:46.050 ⇒ 00:00:47.320 Mustafa Raja: Hey, how is you?
9 00:00:48.130 ⇒ 00:00:49.489 Samuel Roberts: Good, good, how are you?
10 00:00:49.800 ⇒ 00:00:51.270 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, doing good.
11 00:00:54.340 ⇒ 00:00:55.000 Samuel Roberts: Cool.
12 00:00:58.590 ⇒ 00:01:01.040 Samuel Roberts: You guys have good weekends? Anything exciting?
13 00:01:02.320 ⇒ 00:01:08.480 Mustafa Raja: Nothing exciting, just a usual, a visit to my family.
14 00:01:08.810 ⇒ 00:01:15.419 Mustafa Raja: One of my aunts, she… she got diagnosed with cancer, so…
15 00:01:16.330 ⇒ 00:01:17.300 Samuel Roberts: Oh, no.
16 00:01:17.450 ⇒ 00:01:18.110 Mustafa Raja: Equito.
17 00:01:18.110 ⇒ 00:01:18.900 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
18 00:01:19.090 ⇒ 00:01:21.150 Samuel Roberts: That’s nice. Okay, bye.
19 00:01:21.350 ⇒ 00:01:22.580 Samuel Roberts: God, yeah, that time.
20 00:01:22.970 ⇒ 00:01:23.590 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
21 00:01:26.110 ⇒ 00:01:27.610 Uttam Kumaran: Hello, good morning.
22 00:01:28.040 ⇒ 00:01:28.880 Samuel Roberts: Morning.
23 00:01:33.160 ⇒ 00:01:34.289 Robert Tseng: Good morning.
24 00:01:34.290 ⇒ 00:01:35.550 Mustafa Raja: Good morning.
25 00:01:37.050 ⇒ 00:01:41.500 Uttam Kumaran: Yay, dream team. Alright, cool, so I think today, let’s,
26 00:01:42.190 ⇒ 00:01:47.010 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s start with Insomnia. I feel pretty good about… so again, this stand-up is…
27 00:01:47.170 ⇒ 00:01:55.500 Uttam Kumaran: AI team, default, interlude, I just merged in Insomnia, because it’s the same crew, and talk about it in the next meeting. So let’s start with Insomnia.
28 00:01:55.690 ⇒ 00:02:06.780 Uttam Kumaran: And then, let’s talk about default and then AI. So I’ll pull up the… Board…
29 00:02:06.950 ⇒ 00:02:12.119 Uttam Kumaran: And then, I know today we have, like, business review is in, like, 30 minutes.
30 00:02:12.500 ⇒ 00:02:14.319 Uttam Kumaran: Or so… Yeah.
31 00:02:14.320 ⇒ 00:02:15.110 Robert Tseng: an hour.
32 00:02:15.750 ⇒ 00:02:21.510 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, in, like, an hour. So from last week, We had these…
33 00:02:21.620 ⇒ 00:02:28.309 Uttam Kumaran: items, I guess, give me a status update on these, and then we can talk about this week.
34 00:02:30.580 ⇒ 00:02:33.140 Uttam Kumaran: So Casey for these two.
35 00:02:37.390 ⇒ 00:02:41.539 Casie Aviles: Yeah, this one for connecting the marketing performance data.
36 00:02:42.530 ⇒ 00:02:50.260 Casie Aviles: We do have, like… The automation for that? Or, like, just, you know, the table, the loom here.
37 00:02:50.730 ⇒ 00:02:57.910 Casie Aviles: I think… yeah, I haven’t… I’m not sure if the client will have responded to us regarding this loom.
38 00:02:58.800 ⇒ 00:02:59.430 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
39 00:03:01.270 ⇒ 00:03:05.850 Uttam Kumaran: So we can review this. I don’t know, Robert, I feel there’s a bunch of stuff with the…
40 00:03:05.990 ⇒ 00:03:10.769 Uttam Kumaran: performance tracker and the weekly snapshot that we can, like, try to resolve
41 00:03:10.920 ⇒ 00:03:19.459 Uttam Kumaran: today, both reviewing some of these new automations and some of, like, the updates that need to happen. Is that kind of fair?
42 00:03:20.400 ⇒ 00:03:29.839 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, that’s not what the… the business review is… is not what I… I don’t… I don’t report on that there, but yeah, I think that’s kind of what we need for, like.
43 00:03:30.080 ⇒ 00:03:34.609 Robert Tseng: Yeah, just to keep things going, because the other stakeholders depend on this work.
44 00:03:35.220 ⇒ 00:03:44.259 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, great. So I’m gonna sort of… so both of these, I think, Casey, are in review, so I’ll… I’ll take a look today, and we can review together.
45 00:03:44.260 ⇒ 00:03:44.820 Casie Aviles: Okay.
46 00:03:44.820 ⇒ 00:03:50.310 Uttam Kumaran: And then sort of give Robert, like, any action items we need, if we need to chat with the client directly.
47 00:03:50.450 ⇒ 00:03:55.430 Uttam Kumaran: Robert, this one is… Good to go.
48 00:03:57.930 ⇒ 00:03:58.900 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that was basically…
49 00:03:59.590 ⇒ 00:04:04.929 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. And we still have the spikes for Braze in this sprint.
50 00:04:04.930 ⇒ 00:04:05.740 Robert Tseng: Yeah…
51 00:04:06.110 ⇒ 00:04:11.859 Robert Tseng: finished it. It’s… yeah, he showed me where he would get the data from. I mean, yeah, I think,
52 00:04:12.100 ⇒ 00:04:15.620 Robert Tseng: Something that’s coming…
53 00:04:16.420 ⇒ 00:04:23.830 Robert Tseng: with one of the analyses I ran, they want to basically bring it into their process, like, and…
54 00:04:24.140 ⇒ 00:04:29.179 Robert Tseng: So they can run that analysis on some sort of periodic basis,
55 00:04:30.170 ⇒ 00:04:35.070 Robert Tseng: I think Mustafa’s spike kind of informs that, because I don’t think they really…
56 00:04:35.200 ⇒ 00:04:44.239 Robert Tseng: Well, anyway, so, like, I… there’s this work stream that’s gonna come out of this where I basically need, like, the engineers to work with the…
57 00:04:44.390 ⇒ 00:04:52.799 Robert Tseng: Robert Dude, on their team directly to see how we can get our stuff into their… into their data platform, pretty much.
58 00:04:53.340 ⇒ 00:04:54.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Okay.
59 00:04:56.660 ⇒ 00:05:07.189 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so that’s kind of, like, what the next step is from Mustafa’s spike will be. Like, I’m not gonna… I’m not gonna do anything with API directly, I’m just doing analysis, so…
60 00:05:07.920 ⇒ 00:05:14.289 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so it’s probably best… so where… and where does that data from Braze need to go? Like, what is the end report?
61 00:05:14.880 ⇒ 00:05:25.720 Robert Tseng: So, I mean, this is, like, they have the Azure and Holistics thing set up, so I… we’re… we’re just knocking on the door, trying… I mean, I have access to…
62 00:05:26.630 ⇒ 00:05:31.849 Robert Tseng: Holistics now, but it’s… Yeah, like, I… we… I haven’t been able to…
63 00:05:32.620 ⇒ 00:05:45.650 Robert Tseng: you know, push anything into… into Azure, or, like, even interact with it at all. So, I… I think that’s kind of… I don’t know how much… how hands-on we need to be with that. I think it’s… it may just be, like.
64 00:05:46.320 ⇒ 00:05:54.900 Robert Tseng: getting… something ready for their team. What was the message you sent me?
65 00:05:54.900 ⇒ 00:06:11.739 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, he’s just, like, want… yeah, just wants to have… even if we’re just, like, sending him Python scripts, or just, like, being able to give him something directly within an S3 bucket, or through API, like, then he’ll have, like, some sort of, like, upload…
66 00:06:12.290 ⇒ 00:06:21.950 Robert Tseng: Upload process, where they’re taking something from us, and then, he’ll probably just… integrated into his platform himself.
67 00:06:23.100 ⇒ 00:06:35.150 Uttam Kumaran: So, Mustafa, you’re clear on, like, what the data we need out of Braze is, so basically, we can go back to him and say, we can get this data from Braze, here’s the process, what’s the best way to work with your team to do that?
68 00:06:35.470 ⇒ 00:06:38.599 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that’s pretty much what I think the next step would be.
69 00:06:39.160 ⇒ 00:06:39.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
70 00:06:43.560 ⇒ 00:06:45.120 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.
71 00:06:45.430 ⇒ 00:06:50.079 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna leave that into review until we get, like, that message out.
72 00:06:50.750 ⇒ 00:06:59.430 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, and then talk to me about stuff for, this week. So, there is the FDA issue, let’s look…
73 00:06:59.590 ⇒ 00:07:01.259 Uttam Kumaran: Pause on that for a sec.
74 00:07:01.410 ⇒ 00:07:04.250 Uttam Kumaran: We have our normal recurrent daily impact scorecard.
75 00:07:04.430 ⇒ 00:07:10.599 Uttam Kumaran: The two things that… like, there’s these three tickets, basically.
76 00:07:11.590 ⇒ 00:07:22.690 Uttam Kumaran: redesigning this, like, I’m… I’m… I still need to get… we’re gonna talk about this later today and, like, do an overview of the scorecard, so I’ll leave this here. What about this one?
77 00:07:30.530 ⇒ 00:07:37.300 Robert Tseng: This one was… about, I mean, ways and…
78 00:07:37.500 ⇒ 00:07:40.349 Robert Tseng: Mustafa, I talked to them last week.
79 00:07:41.300 ⇒ 00:07:41.670 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
80 00:07:41.670 ⇒ 00:08:00.390 Robert Tseng: basically, like, we need to create segments. Like, we need to be able to segment campaigns by product, by user, by customer segments. Like, not everything is on this spreadsheet, I think his spite kind of informs that. But similar to how in Eden, we created the whole, like, mapping for.
81 00:08:01.210 ⇒ 00:08:01.980 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
82 00:08:01.980 ⇒ 00:08:13.560 Robert Tseng: Product level, all the way up to, like, product categories, like, we need something similar like that for Insomnia. Like, we were expecting that to be handed to us, there is no such thing right now, so…
83 00:08:14.390 ⇒ 00:08:15.480 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I…
84 00:08:15.480 ⇒ 00:08:15.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
85 00:08:15.800 ⇒ 00:08:20.279 Robert Tseng: It’s a… it’s a, like, a… it’s a categorization exercise, yeah.
86 00:08:20.470 ⇒ 00:08:21.100 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
87 00:08:21.270 ⇒ 00:08:26.789 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Yeah, I think this one is easily… can be done by Wednesday. So,
88 00:08:27.030 ⇒ 00:08:37.889 Uttam Kumaran: I think, Mustafa, tell me, like, have you and Awash talked about this yet? Basically, Awash can show you how to do it, but I think this is a good exercise for you to start to take this on.
89 00:08:38.090 ⇒ 00:08:41.120 Uttam Kumaran: Did you… have you chatted with him at all yet about this?
90 00:08:41.120 ⇒ 00:08:45.259 Mustafa Raja: So, I haven’t chatted with him, regarding this yet.
91 00:08:46.140 ⇒ 00:08:49.610 Uttam Kumaran: So, Rico, let’s, plan on booking a meeting
92 00:08:49.980 ⇒ 00:08:53.370 Uttam Kumaran: Between… the four of… four of us?
93 00:08:53.510 ⇒ 00:08:58.349 Uttam Kumaran: me, away from Mustafa, and you.
94 00:08:58.470 ⇒ 00:09:00.559 Uttam Kumaran: And then I’ll probably just come for the first…
95 00:09:00.720 ⇒ 00:09:03.819 Uttam Kumaran: 5-10 minutes, and then let you guys work through this.
96 00:09:06.810 ⇒ 00:09:14.529 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Yeah, this is… this is a nice one. All the information for this category can be found here, or we should go.
97 00:09:14.530 ⇒ 00:09:27.480 Robert Tseng: No, it needs to pull in, like, some of the stuff from his spike as well. So, like, there’s no customer segments in that spreadsheet, what I… what that… that’s just campaign-level data. So it doesn’t have product, it doesn’t have… doesn’t have user segments.
98 00:09:27.900 ⇒ 00:09:29.320 Robert Tseng: Or customer segments.
99 00:09:32.970 ⇒ 00:09:33.720 Uttam Kumaran: Great.
100 00:09:34.230 ⇒ 00:09:38.269 Uttam Kumaran: And then, who is, like, the, person on their side that, like, gives us the thumbs up?
101 00:09:38.850 ⇒ 00:09:47.459 Robert Tseng: It’ll… it’ll be the same guy, Robert Cantor. I’m trying to set up some time with him this week.
102 00:09:48.110 ⇒ 00:09:53.590 Robert Tseng: And when that happens, I will try to bring…
103 00:09:54.130 ⇒ 00:09:57.539 Robert Tseng: Yeah, you just told me who to bring from our side to that call. I want to make that interesting.
104 00:09:57.540 ⇒ 00:10:00.359 Uttam Kumaran: Do you want me to… you want me to push… do you want me to push for that?
105 00:10:00.620 ⇒ 00:10:01.430 Uttam Kumaran: For Thursday?
106 00:10:03.270 ⇒ 00:10:14.120 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, he’s not in the current channel, like, that one, that channel that we have with him is just for marketing folks, so I have to go and, like, look on his calendar and just grab some time that meets ours as well, but…
107 00:10:14.120 ⇒ 00:10:14.690 Uttam Kumaran: Just do it Thursday.
108 00:10:14.690 ⇒ 00:10:15.360 Robert Tseng: dear.
109 00:10:15.680 ⇒ 00:10:17.450 Robert Tseng: Okay, I’ll do it Thursday.
110 00:10:17.870 ⇒ 00:10:19.400 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, just do it Thursday.
111 00:10:19.660 ⇒ 00:10:23.150 Uttam Kumaran: That way, if you can’t make it, at least you get a… you get a thread started.
112 00:10:23.300 ⇒ 00:10:24.440 Uttam Kumaran: And then…
113 00:10:25.150 ⇒ 00:10:31.169 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’ll be perfect time. Because I want… I want to come up with the Braze stuff, I want to come up with this stuff.
114 00:10:31.320 ⇒ 00:10:34.810 Uttam Kumaran: I want to talk to him about… The…
115 00:10:35.210 ⇒ 00:10:42.380 Uttam Kumaran: the weekly scorecard, and then just, like, kind of grill on, like, what his role is there, so Thursday would be great.
116 00:10:42.380 ⇒ 00:10:43.110 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
117 00:10:43.820 ⇒ 00:10:52.140 Robert Tseng: Yeah, he actually doesn’t touch the weekly scorecard at all, that’s why we… we basically took that over. But that’s like… yeah, so he…
118 00:10:52.440 ⇒ 00:10:58.900 Robert Tseng: But anything, like… Data-related has to kind of end up going through him in some way.
119 00:10:59.460 ⇒ 00:11:08.420 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Yeah, I would like him to know what we’re doing there, because he’s, like, if we can hand some of that shit off to him, I would do that.
120 00:11:09.060 ⇒ 00:11:22.759 Robert Tseng: I feel like his title changes every two weeks. When I… when we first started, he was, like, director of tech, and then he was head of the data, and now I see his title as, like, Head of AI. I’m like, what AI are you doing? But, like, anyway, so he’s… he’s just, like, this…
121 00:11:23.390 ⇒ 00:11:25.969 Robert Tseng: He’s just, like, our tech gatekeeper, pretty much.
122 00:11:25.970 ⇒ 00:11:27.249 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, alright.
123 00:11:27.250 ⇒ 00:11:27.870 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
124 00:11:28.390 ⇒ 00:11:29.050 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
125 00:11:29.370 ⇒ 00:11:34.120 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. And then, tell me what else. So there’s… there’s this meta…
126 00:11:34.120 ⇒ 00:11:37.150 Robert Tseng: Ticket for me. That’s gonna take me, like, 5…
127 00:11:37.280 ⇒ 00:11:41.069 Robert Tseng: Hours, probably. Like, to… It’s in the backlog?
128 00:11:41.710 ⇒ 00:11:48.530 Robert Tseng: I don’t know if I created a ticket for it. This is just my own channel analysis, so I…
129 00:11:48.530 ⇒ 00:11:49.030 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
130 00:11:49.030 ⇒ 00:11:49.720 Robert Tseng: So…
131 00:11:49.720 ⇒ 00:11:52.539 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, tell me what it is, I’ll just write it down so it’s here.
132 00:11:53.000 ⇒ 00:11:55.430 Robert Tseng: It’s…
133 00:11:55.680 ⇒ 00:12:06.939 Robert Tseng: I’ll just give it to you. There’s a deck here. The visuals are not updated, but I already outlined the slides, so it’s like a five-slide deck that’s basically packaging
134 00:12:07.190 ⇒ 00:12:09.939 Robert Tseng: Kind of the next steps for my last…
135 00:12:10.530 ⇒ 00:12:15.570 Robert Tseng: from my Thursday readout that, Yeah, I’m…
136 00:12:16.080 ⇒ 00:12:20.670 Robert Tseng: Gonna share this by tomorrow. End of… end of day tomorrow is kind of the target.
137 00:12:27.510 ⇒ 00:12:30.029 Uttam Kumaran: Do you want to do an internal meeting to, like.
138 00:12:30.390 ⇒ 00:12:34.819 Uttam Kumaran: To, like, basically run through with us, like, sometime tomorrow.
139 00:12:35.150 ⇒ 00:12:42.819 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, if I… if I… my goal is to finish it today, if I finish it, I was gonna run through this during, like, the… my data office hours tomorrow.
140 00:12:43.090 ⇒ 00:12:43.860 Robert Tseng: Okay.
141 00:12:43.860 ⇒ 00:12:44.350 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
142 00:12:44.350 ⇒ 00:12:45.040 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
143 00:12:45.810 ⇒ 00:12:49.500 Robert Tseng: And I’ll just, like, share, like, what I did, and whatever.
144 00:12:50.010 ⇒ 00:12:57.870 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. So one thing, Rico, can you make sure I’m in that meeting, and then… Yeah, that’s probably…
145 00:12:58.540 ⇒ 00:13:02.360 Uttam Kumaran: That’s probably it for now. Okay, that’s great.
146 00:13:03.380 ⇒ 00:13:04.260 Uttam Kumaran: Amazing.
147 00:13:08.660 ⇒ 00:13:12.270 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool, so I will… I’ll get this too, this is great.
148 00:13:12.490 ⇒ 00:13:16.729 Uttam Kumaran: And then there’s some… there’s kind of two things. One,
149 00:13:17.860 ⇒ 00:13:24.029 Uttam Kumaran: For Eden, we have… we’re gonna get, like, an updated, basically, like, deck template, so in case you need any help.
150 00:13:24.110 ⇒ 00:13:25.250 Robert Tseng: on this.
151 00:13:25.370 ⇒ 00:13:27.470 Uttam Kumaran: sort of deck, let me know.
152 00:13:28.300 ⇒ 00:13:30.610 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Or, like, you know, formatting, so, like.
153 00:13:31.140 ⇒ 00:13:40.210 Uttam Kumaran: don’t spin wheels on formatting, like, Hannah will rip through whatever formatting we need in, like, 30 minutes. So, as long as you make sure everything’s there, that’s easy.
154 00:13:40.740 ⇒ 00:13:49.420 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, I already spent 2 hours on this. I think just trying to get a couple more hours to actually get the visuals that I want, and then paste it in there. Then I’m gonna hand it off.
155 00:13:50.180 ⇒ 00:13:55.579 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, great. And then who’s the, like, you’re presenting to them on Wednesday?
156 00:13:56.710 ⇒ 00:14:06.020 Robert Tseng: Well, I’m… I’m gonna be referencing these insights already at today’s weekly business review, but they’re not gonna see the data until tomorrow, so that’s kind of how I…
157 00:14:06.740 ⇒ 00:14:08.460 Robert Tseng: I’m sharing it out.
158 00:14:09.610 ⇒ 00:14:12.999 Uttam Kumaran: And then, but when you… when you’re sharing it out, you’re just sending the link, or are you actually, like.
159 00:14:13.250 ⇒ 00:14:14.539 Uttam Kumaran: Running a call.
160 00:14:15.190 ⇒ 00:14:18.180 Robert Tseng: No, I think I’ll just share the link, and then I’ll record a loom.
161 00:14:19.490 ⇒ 00:14:20.370 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
162 00:14:24.050 ⇒ 00:14:30.700 Robert Tseng: Usually, if they need another call with me, I try to book them on Thursday, so I think that makes… like, I try not to talk to them more than…
163 00:14:30.850 ⇒ 00:14:32.040 Robert Tseng: Monday, Thursday.
164 00:14:32.670 ⇒ 00:14:38.810 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Yeah, I… if… if, like, once we get into the hang of these things, if we need to do…
165 00:14:38.990 ⇒ 00:14:43.669 Uttam Kumaran: just have a recurring Thursday, I would vote for that, because I’m not in the Business Review Monday yet.
166 00:14:44.060 ⇒ 00:14:49.330 Uttam Kumaran: And so we could get, like… and now that I’m here, like, I can run that, so it’s not like…
167 00:14:49.600 ⇒ 00:15:02.810 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, we can run that together, or I can basically push for that. That way, I get some FaceTime once a week with them, and then ideally, at least I can talk to the data guy once every two weeks, and talk to someone on the business side once every two weeks.
168 00:15:03.020 ⇒ 00:15:14.639 Uttam Kumaran: And then, at this level. So, okay, cool. Okay, great. So this is fine. So tell me what else is this week. So, I have a couple things on, like, getting access to stuff, so I’ll start to push that.
169 00:15:15.420 ⇒ 00:15:18.449 Uttam Kumaran: Tell me what else is on… plate for this week.
170 00:15:19.000 ⇒ 00:15:26.819 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that’s it. I mean, I think once I submit the analysis for tomorrow, I think maybe something will come up, but that’s, that’s… that’s what we got.
171 00:15:27.400 ⇒ 00:15:30.299 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, great. So yeah, I think,
172 00:15:30.570 ⇒ 00:15:36.090 Uttam Kumaran: My calendar’s kind of effed today, but, I would… I want to try to spend…
173 00:15:36.320 ⇒ 00:15:39.870 Uttam Kumaran: If we have… we have a planning booked for later.
174 00:15:39.990 ⇒ 00:15:45.590 Uttam Kumaran: Ideally, basically, I just want to, like, double-click and make sure all the tickets that are here
175 00:15:45.990 ⇒ 00:15:53.930 Uttam Kumaran: are, like, groomed, and then Casey, let’s plan on spending the… as much time in that planning meeting on Scorecard.
176 00:15:54.040 ⇒ 00:16:03.509 Uttam Kumaran: And so, I have, like, a bunch of questions to ask. I’ll review your loom before, and then I basically want to build out, like, a little bit of a project plan around Scorecard.
177 00:16:03.650 ⇒ 00:16:11.210 Uttam Kumaran: And then get organized on, like, how do we prevent issues, like, that’s happening today? How do we create a through line and, like.
178 00:16:11.340 ⇒ 00:16:15.609 Uttam Kumaran: share updates directly in that channel when Scorecard is getting updated.
179 00:16:15.810 ⇒ 00:16:19.790 Uttam Kumaran: Values, like, things like that, so we can talk about that today.
180 00:16:20.920 ⇒ 00:16:21.620 Casie Aviles: Okay.
181 00:16:21.620 ⇒ 00:16:22.290 Uttam Kumaran: Bull.
182 00:16:22.550 ⇒ 00:16:23.820 Uttam Kumaran: interlude…
183 00:16:23.960 ⇒ 00:16:30.439 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, guys, so we’re gonna see, like, what happens. I would just pause on stuff, like Sam or…
184 00:16:30.720 ⇒ 00:16:33.939 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, is there anything, like, active right now?
185 00:16:34.540 ⇒ 00:16:39.849 Samuel Roberts: It’s just the, like, processing the SVGs into… that we have for the decks. We have two of them.
186 00:16:39.890 ⇒ 00:16:58.910 Samuel Roberts: And it’s just building that little pipeline for extracting the text and information, which is near… it’s in a good state. It’s probably a little bit we can improve on the prompt and everything as we tweak it, but I took a look at what Mustafa had, and I added some Azure keys, so it’s in a good state to use. But yeah, there’s not much coming in right now.
187 00:16:59.760 ⇒ 00:17:08.809 Uttam Kumaran: Is there… is there anything I should add? Like, that… is there any, like, additional work that is gonna be done this week that we can track beyond these two tickets?
188 00:17:10.010 ⇒ 00:17:26.120 Samuel Roberts: I mean, we could keep working on that, like, add more to that, make… right now, we’re pulling out the text and kind of asking the prompt to use the location and size information to figure out if it’s headlines and stuff, and I think there’s maybe a little bit of work to do to improve that, but I don’t know if that’s…
189 00:17:26.790 ⇒ 00:17:30.600 Samuel Roberts: You know, worth working on and showing off, or you tell me there.
190 00:17:31.540 ⇒ 00:17:35.900 Samuel Roberts: I think, besides that, like, we had some ideas about,
191 00:17:36.070 ⇒ 00:17:45.920 Samuel Roberts: that, kind of lo-fi deck options, slide options, as we use the deck agent, but without talking to Sylvia, we didn’t really make any moves on that yet.
192 00:17:46.490 ⇒ 00:17:47.230 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
193 00:17:47.530 ⇒ 00:17:55.659 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so, like, I… unless it’s, like, planned work, I wouldn’t do it. For both of these, I’m just gonna… I’m just gonna leave and blocked.
194 00:17:55.660 ⇒ 00:17:56.420 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, just, yeah.
195 00:17:56.940 ⇒ 00:18:03.959 Uttam Kumaran: Message me if you plan on working… if you end up working on anything, because I just want to make sure that there… it’s… the time is tracked here, so…
196 00:18:03.960 ⇒ 00:18:04.560 Samuel Roberts: Totally.
197 00:18:05.050 ⇒ 00:18:05.710 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
198 00:18:05.950 ⇒ 00:18:13.659 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. For default, this is Don. The presentation…
199 00:18:14.110 ⇒ 00:18:22.579 Uttam Kumaran: with Caitlin went really well. So this is in a really good spot. I think we can move on to… I’m gonna…
200 00:18:22.920 ⇒ 00:18:25.800 Uttam Kumaran: We’re gonna… we can move on to the next set of…
201 00:18:25.990 ⇒ 00:18:31.349 Uttam Kumaran: vendors today. So I’m gonna… one thing I’m gonna do is…
202 00:18:32.480 ⇒ 00:18:40.549 Uttam Kumaran: just get priority from her on, like, what vendors are priority. Do we have a list ex… we already have an existing list, right, Mustafa?
203 00:18:41.450 ⇒ 00:18:50.539 Mustafa Raja: Yes, the Notion doc for scoring model, she did give us a list of, vendors she wanted to test.
204 00:18:52.170 ⇒ 00:18:53.830 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
205 00:18:53.830 ⇒ 00:18:56.060 Mustafa Raja: Coding model has been the done once.
206 00:18:57.940 ⇒ 00:19:00.770 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I’m just gonna put in the,
207 00:19:02.690 ⇒ 00:19:09.950 Uttam Kumaran: I forgot what they were, but I’m just gonna put placeholder… Add new vendors.
208 00:19:11.230 ⇒ 00:19:17.229 Uttam Kumaran: And I will, I’ll add them. I think there’s about 4 or 5, so I’ll… I’ll add them there.
209 00:19:17.460 ⇒ 00:19:19.500 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.
210 00:19:19.700 ⇒ 00:19:25.250 Uttam Kumaran: And then otherwise, for default, I think,
211 00:19:26.400 ⇒ 00:19:32.199 Uttam Kumaran: Did we… did you end up, getting any tickets created, Rico, for the stuff I talked to Deanna about?
212 00:19:34.980 ⇒ 00:19:39.780 Rico Rejoso: Yes, I created it because, it’s on the backlog for default.
213 00:19:40.530 ⇒ 00:19:42.370 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, great, all of these ones, okay.
214 00:19:43.600 ⇒ 00:19:47.910 Uttam Kumaran: or these ones.
215 00:19:50.010 ⇒ 00:19:52.850 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice. Oh, wait, which ones, which ones are they?
216 00:20:00.020 ⇒ 00:20:01.540 Uttam Kumaran: You’re on mute, I think.
217 00:20:01.540 ⇒ 00:20:05.180 Mustafa Raja: It should be 108-215, right?
218 00:20:05.460 ⇒ 00:20:07.630 Rico Rejoso: Yep, 108 to 116.
219 00:20:09.520 ⇒ 00:20:11.249 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, all these ones.
220 00:20:13.460 ⇒ 00:20:16.589 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so this one’s me, this one is…
221 00:20:17.390 ⇒ 00:20:22.929 Uttam Kumaran: This one’s a client review… Oh, nice, okay, this is…
222 00:20:23.900 ⇒ 00:20:29.119 Uttam Kumaran: This is the one I need… okay. Okay, great. Yeah, this is exactly it.
223 00:20:29.480 ⇒ 00:20:32.029 Uttam Kumaran: So, walk me through how you made this.
224 00:20:33.950 ⇒ 00:20:34.410 Rico Rejoso: Like.
225 00:20:34.410 ⇒ 00:20:37.709 Uttam Kumaran: Did you use the… did you use the automation in platform?
226 00:20:38.160 ⇒ 00:20:38.950 Rico Rejoso: Yes.
227 00:20:39.150 ⇒ 00:20:46.090 Rico Rejoso: Then, from the platform, I use, the… linear standard in ChatGPT.
228 00:20:46.440 ⇒ 00:20:49.769 Rico Rejoso: Do you end users transcript to get the context for it.
229 00:20:50.300 ⇒ 00:20:51.660 Uttam Kumaran: And you use this.
230 00:20:54.630 ⇒ 00:21:02.449 Rico Rejoso: The other one… actually, I used the platform for outlining the discussion points and afterwards? I mean, I haven’t used that one yet. I haven’t looked into it.
231 00:21:03.220 ⇒ 00:21:10.560 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Alright, so this is another thing for the AI team. I think we’re gonna have some more priorities from PM on how we do this, because
232 00:21:10.980 ⇒ 00:21:12.250 Uttam Kumaran: Rico is now…
233 00:21:12.550 ⇒ 00:21:19.309 Uttam Kumaran: Rico is basically working through, like, taking meetings that we’re both in, and then creating the first pass of tickets.
234 00:21:19.600 ⇒ 00:21:33.599 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna ask him to kind of give you guys feedback on, like, how this is working. It’s clear that we didn’t use this this time, but basically what you did is you used the transcript, and then you used the ChatGPT ticket prompt, right, that we have?
235 00:21:33.600 ⇒ 00:21:41.680 Rico Rejoso: Yes, because I haven’t got confirmation if the linear standards that we created, is in the platform already, so I.
236 00:21:41.680 ⇒ 00:21:42.789 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think…
237 00:21:43.070 ⇒ 00:21:47.999 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, Rico, we talked about this, right? We have to update that prompt to have the standards, and then hopefully…
238 00:21:48.000 ⇒ 00:21:48.390 Rico Rejoso: Yes.
239 00:21:48.390 ⇒ 00:21:52.970 Samuel Roberts: I mean, that improves the ticket generator, at least, at the first pass, and then we’ll see what… from there.
240 00:21:53.960 ⇒ 00:21:54.640 Samuel Roberts: I think there’s some.
241 00:21:54.640 ⇒ 00:21:54.970 Uttam Kumaran: So…
242 00:21:54.970 ⇒ 00:21:57.489 Samuel Roberts: Like, applying the right people and things, but yeah.
243 00:21:57.810 ⇒ 00:22:07.040 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Rico, can we book a meeting for… Tomorrow… Morning to walk through like…
244 00:22:07.290 ⇒ 00:22:25.120 Uttam Kumaran: with… with us, with… with me, you, and then AI team on, like… or we can… or we can do this in stand-up tomorrow, whatever, but… actually, let’s book a meeting where we walk through going from transcript to tickets, and then we’ll just note down, like, what the issues are. You’re gonna be doing this probably 5 to 10 times a week now, and so that…
245 00:22:25.550 ⇒ 00:22:27.600 Uttam Kumaran: Thing has to work.
246 00:22:28.540 ⇒ 00:22:29.190 Rico Rejoso: Yes.
247 00:22:29.190 ⇒ 00:22:29.970 Uttam Kumaran: It has to work for you.
248 00:22:29.970 ⇒ 00:22:30.330 Samuel Roberts: million.
249 00:22:30.330 ⇒ 00:22:35.190 Uttam Kumaran: So now that you know what it is, you can give… you can… you can be the judge, so…
250 00:22:35.410 ⇒ 00:22:36.130 Uttam Kumaran: Great.
251 00:22:37.530 ⇒ 00:22:46.349 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so let me, let me move some of these… Okay, that’s done…
252 00:22:53.480 ⇒ 00:22:54.470 Uttam Kumaran: Nice.
253 00:22:55.160 ⇒ 00:22:58.799 Uttam Kumaran: Nice. Alright, well, these are, these are great, so whatever you did.
254 00:22:59.050 ⇒ 00:23:02.000 Uttam Kumaran: it’s… it’s working. These are exactly what I talked to them about.
255 00:23:12.230 ⇒ 00:23:18.099 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Great. So, some of these are mine.
256 00:23:18.270 ⇒ 00:23:22.929 Uttam Kumaran: So I’ll… I’ll probably be the main… so it’ll be just me and Mustafa this week on, like.
257 00:23:23.450 ⇒ 00:23:33.699 Uttam Kumaran: stuff for, for default, but not too worried. I’m meeting with them today to get data directly into Mother Duck, and so stuff should move forward.
258 00:23:33.860 ⇒ 00:23:41.370 Uttam Kumaran: And then, Mustafa, I will… we’ll talk in Slack today about the next companies to prioritize. There’s not a huge rush.
259 00:23:42.040 ⇒ 00:23:46.880 Uttam Kumaran: So… this is just probably… we just probably need to have a batch of them ready by Thursday.
260 00:23:47.020 ⇒ 00:23:52.579 Uttam Kumaran: So, how long does one take, typically? Like… Two, two, two, three hours.
261 00:23:52.580 ⇒ 00:23:55.530 Mustafa Raja: So this is for the test, right?
262 00:23:55.530 ⇒ 00:23:55.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
263 00:23:56.180 ⇒ 00:24:04.929 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so I think Audit, took, 2 points, so we can average on that.
264 00:24:06.310 ⇒ 00:24:07.929 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. Perfect.
265 00:24:08.490 ⇒ 00:24:12.269 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. And then, let’s talk about,
266 00:24:12.270 ⇒ 00:24:29.390 Mustafa Raja: AI teams, yeah. One more thing. I remember Caitlin wanted, ARR data with their customers. We didn’t end up adding that data in, Omni. Do we have that ticket, or are we going to do that or not?
267 00:24:30.500 ⇒ 00:24:31.800 Uttam Kumaran: Which data in Omni?
268 00:24:32.390 ⇒ 00:24:36.789 Mustafa Raja: The ARR for their customers, and annual revenue.
269 00:24:36.960 ⇒ 00:24:38.070 Mustafa Raja: Or something, I don’t know.
270 00:24:39.370 ⇒ 00:24:46.079 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, we should… do that. That’s good points.
271 00:24:49.240 ⇒ 00:24:53.869 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Rico, can you go see if you can find this discussion?
272 00:24:54.930 ⇒ 00:24:56.039 Uttam Kumaran: Was this in a meeting with her?
273 00:24:56.270 ⇒ 00:24:58.420 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, no, no, this is in Slack.
274 00:25:01.930 ⇒ 00:25:09.360 Mustafa Raja: At least I remember in Slack, I haven’t been joining the meeting, so I don’t know if this was discussed in the meeting.
275 00:25:11.150 ⇒ 00:25:11.960 Uttam Kumaran: Excellent.
276 00:25:20.070 ⇒ 00:25:23.160 Uttam Kumaran: Sorry, my dog’s barking can be a second.
277 00:25:25.600 ⇒ 00:25:27.000 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
278 00:25:28.570 ⇒ 00:25:30.710 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
279 00:25:33.090 ⇒ 00:25:50.550 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah, Rico, if you can find out, go dig up the details for this one. And then, let’s talk about AI team. We have 5 minutes left. So, we have a bunch of stuff that’s in PR review. I would probably lean on you, Sam, to see if we can get as many of these out today as possible.
280 00:25:50.980 ⇒ 00:25:52.429 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, the ones…
281 00:25:52.850 ⇒ 00:25:58.710 Samuel Roberts: Pr I can take a look at. The add ability, I just moved. I’m pushing a branch now. One of the things…
282 00:25:58.950 ⇒ 00:26:02.709 Samuel Roberts: I forget which one, if you scroll back, which ticket…
283 00:26:03.480 ⇒ 00:26:14.829 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so these two in progress are what’s holding up that other one in PR review, so I’m just going to make one PR for all of them. And the client took a little bit of time, so I bumped that estimate up.
284 00:26:16.680 ⇒ 00:26:17.590 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Bye.
285 00:26:18.060 ⇒ 00:26:22.100 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it was… and this is something I wanted to talk about after this, but the… the…
286 00:26:22.250 ⇒ 00:26:36.820 Samuel Roberts: right now, everything’s on GitHub, and I added a way to do clients, so I had to sync things, and because I added the custom links using the GitHub stuff, so I think there’s a ticket, if not, we definitely discussed it moving off of GitHub onto S3 buckets, which will let me clean up a lot
287 00:26:36.820 ⇒ 00:26:42.709 Samuel Roberts: So that code and make it a little bit easier to use, but, for now, it works as is. It’s just a little messy.
288 00:26:43.610 ⇒ 00:26:47.389 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so… But I’m about to push that branch, so we’re good to…
289 00:26:48.920 ⇒ 00:26:51.479 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I would like to see if we can get all of these out.
290 00:26:51.770 ⇒ 00:26:53.270 Uttam Kumaran: By the afternoon.
291 00:26:53.660 ⇒ 00:26:54.000 Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah.
292 00:26:54.000 ⇒ 00:26:58.030 Uttam Kumaran: Is it possible to review those, and we can ship them? Let’s… yeah, let’s do it, because then…
293 00:26:58.030 ⇒ 00:26:58.660 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
294 00:26:59.090 ⇒ 00:27:02.700 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we can use it this week for stuff. There’s gonna be a lot of moving parts this week.
295 00:27:04.460 ⇒ 00:27:05.060 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
296 00:27:09.130 ⇒ 00:27:09.760 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
297 00:27:11.550 ⇒ 00:27:12.500 Uttam Kumaran: Whoa.
298 00:27:13.060 ⇒ 00:27:21.449 Uttam Kumaran: All right, and then I think the… the only thing I want to kind of see this week is Rico and I are gonna have a bunch of PM asks.
299 00:27:21.670 ⇒ 00:27:39.329 Uttam Kumaran: That we could work with the team on. I think, again, tomorrow I want to meet and basically want you guys to watch Rico’s end-to-end, take a meeting transcript that we’re in, create the tickets, find out what the issues are, and then I think this week and next week, I just want to, like, brush that.
300 00:27:39.390 ⇒ 00:27:46.670 Uttam Kumaran: the change we’re making internally is, like, I’m PMing a lot. What I will lack, though, is time to do…
301 00:27:46.780 ⇒ 00:27:56.509 Uttam Kumaran: the, like, creating a lot of these assets, and so Ricoh has to get enabled to do that via our platform. And that needs to start as just, like, the ticket.
302 00:27:56.720 ⇒ 00:28:09.749 Uttam Kumaran: stuff, and then also the ticket stuff needs to then pull from client information, right? So those are probably the two main… main blockers to think about. Also, there’s probably have to be some rethinking of the UI,
303 00:28:11.150 ⇒ 00:28:16.380 Uttam Kumaran: And so we may need to discuss, like, when a PM comes to the platform and they upload a transcript.
304 00:28:16.500 ⇒ 00:28:23.729 Uttam Kumaran: They may want to see multiple different options, regenerate things, so you’re almost… it’s… for them, think about it like…
305 00:28:23.850 ⇒ 00:28:37.759 Uttam Kumaran: it’s like magic patterns for, like, project management, so they may want to… they need to… Rico needs to be able to take a transcript from a meeting he may or may not have been in, understand the tickets that need to get created, meetings that need to get booked.
306 00:28:37.880 ⇒ 00:28:45.959 Uttam Kumaran: messages that need to get sent, there’s a whole host of information. Additionally, we are taking log of
307 00:28:46.170 ⇒ 00:28:53.620 Uttam Kumaran: all the stand-up notes here, so this may be something he can… he will also upload. So, I want you guys to watch the process.
308 00:28:53.760 ⇒ 00:29:00.440 Uttam Kumaran: work with Magic Patterns or Design to propose a solution that, like, me and Rico can both
309 00:29:00.680 ⇒ 00:29:09.040 Uttam Kumaran: understand and approve, and then we can work to develop. So, I kind of want to focus this next two weeks on, like, PM enablement as much as possible.
310 00:29:09.040 ⇒ 00:29:13.060 Samuel Roberts: Awesome. Okay, cool. And so we’ll meet and do that.
311 00:29:14.000 ⇒ 00:29:24.260 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so we’ll meet tomorrow and kind of, like, kick off this little work stream, and then… Perfect. It’ll just be, like, rap… so I want to focus on, like, rapid prototyping, so you guys will get all the context, you know, what we’re doing.
312 00:29:24.440 ⇒ 00:29:30.410 Uttam Kumaran: there… the back-end piece, you guys will… I think you’ll nail. I think it’s really the front end on this one.
313 00:29:30.410 ⇒ 00:29:30.830 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
314 00:29:30.830 ⇒ 00:29:38.339 Uttam Kumaran: That’s gonna be… have to be a little bit unique, because PMs are not gonna be as enabled… as enabled as I am.
315 00:29:38.540 ⇒ 00:29:48.700 Uttam Kumaran: like, and we’re gonna move to this model where I think there’s gonna be, like, kind of PMs that are running multiple things, and then sort of coordinators around them. So the coordinators are the ones that need to get enabled here, so…
316 00:29:49.330 ⇒ 00:29:49.840 Samuel Roberts: world.
317 00:29:51.080 ⇒ 00:29:59.190 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. So, we’ll… we have insomnia planning later, default and stuff, I will… we’ll talk in Slack.
318 00:29:59.600 ⇒ 00:30:05.929 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, and then Robert, let me know if there’s anything out of the business review. You could basically either just record.
319 00:30:06.060 ⇒ 00:30:08.750 Uttam Kumaran: Or if you have a granola, I can take that, or…
320 00:30:08.750 ⇒ 00:30:18.080 Robert Tseng: Granola, everything. I don’t know if I’m gonna stay out. I need to kind of prep for that, so, okay, okay. I know we have a next call. I’ll try to, like, just be there, but I’m gonna be multitasking.
321 00:30:18.460 ⇒ 00:30:27.050 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I just want you to talk through Eden. Yeah. And sure. Yeah, so that’s, that’s the one thing I’m gonna be there for next week. Okay.
322 00:30:27.550 ⇒ 00:30:28.800 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, thank you guys.
323 00:30:30.110 ⇒ 00:30:30.650 Samuel Roberts: Yep.