Meeting Title: AI-Default-Interlude Standup Date: 2025-10-10 Meeting participants: Rico Rejoso, Mustafa Raja, Casie Aviles, Uttam Kumaran, Samuel Roberts
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1 00:00:08.420 ⇒ 00:00:09.380 Uttam Kumaran: Hey guys.
2 00:00:11.990 ⇒ 00:00:12.830 Mustafa Raja: Hey.
3 00:00:13.710 ⇒ 00:00:14.740 Rico Rejoso: Morning, ladies.
4 00:00:15.480 ⇒ 00:00:16.160 Uttam Kumaran: Hey.
5 00:00:44.630 ⇒ 00:00:48.879 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let’s get started. So, for default,
6 00:00:48.910 ⇒ 00:00:55.509 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, Mustafa, the last thing is, is, I think, just a latency thing on your side. Yeah, I did that last time.
7 00:00:56.260 ⇒ 00:00:58.370 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.
8 00:00:58.370 ⇒ 00:01:05.460 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we can take a look if it looks good. It’s not well formatted, so let me know if I should format it any better.
9 00:01:06.180 ⇒ 00:01:10.630 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I can… let’s, let’s…
10 00:01:10.850 ⇒ 00:01:16.660 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, can you just ping me again in the client… in the internal client channel, and I’ll take a look after this?
11 00:01:17.020 ⇒ 00:01:18.590 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I can bet.
12 00:01:18.590 ⇒ 00:01:21.839 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, and then, so this one I can act… so this one I can mark as done.
13 00:01:22.710 ⇒ 00:01:23.460 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
14 00:01:24.680 ⇒ 00:01:28.329 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. You felt like that was… these were accurate in terms of pointing?
15 00:01:29.620 ⇒ 00:01:36.669 Mustafa Raja: In terms of pointing… 400… I can, I can quickly take a look at my Glockify.
16 00:01:37.280 ⇒ 00:01:38.080 Mustafa Raja: Give me a moment.
17 00:01:38.080 ⇒ 00:01:43.569 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, that’s fine. Just, like, if you think they were both close to 3s, or you think it’s way longer.
18 00:01:43.570 ⇒ 00:01:45.890 Mustafa Raja: These are, yeah, these are both.
19 00:01:45.890 ⇒ 00:01:46.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.
20 00:01:46.800 ⇒ 00:01:47.620 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
21 00:02:02.560 ⇒ 00:02:06.239 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. An interlude, any updates from yesterday?
22 00:02:10.710 ⇒ 00:02:11.350 Uttam Kumaran: Same deal.
23 00:02:11.350 ⇒ 00:02:28.740 Samuel Roberts: I’m trying to think… yeah, I just got a little bit of time to work on, 39, reviewing it. I think I pushed the code. I was playing around myself just to try to get some more progress with the prompt and stuff, but, it looks good to probably close out. We can just…
24 00:02:29.290 ⇒ 00:02:35.960 Samuel Roberts: As we tweak the prompt. There’s more to do with more decks, but we only have two, so…
25 00:02:37.160 ⇒ 00:02:37.780 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah.
26 00:02:38.070 ⇒ 00:02:41.860 Samuel Roberts: I might just be making a ticket for, like, refining it, maybe, I don’t know.
27 00:02:42.030 ⇒ 00:02:44.209 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, refining it would be good.
28 00:02:44.840 ⇒ 00:02:50.620 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, because I… it was so funny, I was trying to work on it, and then it just… Azure stopped working.
29 00:02:50.670 ⇒ 00:02:52.849 Mustafa Raja: And it turns out there was, like, an Azure…
30 00:02:52.910 ⇒ 00:02:54.180 Samuel Roberts: downtime.
31 00:02:54.310 ⇒ 00:03:01.500 Samuel Roberts: In my area. But I spent, like, 30 minutes just, like, Diagnosing my computer. Ugh.
32 00:03:02.270 ⇒ 00:03:05.420 Samuel Roberts: And then I thought maybe I set it up wrong, but… Yeah.
33 00:03:06.580 ⇒ 00:03:09.840 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. And then let’s talk about,
34 00:03:10.310 ⇒ 00:03:13.330 Uttam Kumaran: I guess let’s talk about ABC, actually, before we talk about internal stuff.
35 00:03:13.590 ⇒ 00:03:14.410 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
36 00:03:38.890 ⇒ 00:03:44.789 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so… This looks, like, insane.
37 00:03:46.230 ⇒ 00:03:50.650 Uttam Kumaran: There’s no way you guys are working on this many tickets in this cycle, right?
38 00:03:51.510 ⇒ 00:03:53.089 Samuel Roberts: No, well, some of these are…
39 00:03:54.280 ⇒ 00:04:00.000 Samuel Roberts: the triage tickets, they get assigned differently, I think, so… Like, who’s in here?
40 00:04:00.250 ⇒ 00:04:05.149 Samuel Roberts: like, TC is… Someone at ABC, right?
41 00:04:05.150 ⇒ 00:04:06.750 Mustafa Raja: It’s Tara, I feel.
42 00:04:06.750 ⇒ 00:04:08.780 Samuel Roberts: Kara, thank you.
43 00:04:09.410 ⇒ 00:04:10.000 Casie Aviles: Excuse me.
44 00:04:10.000 ⇒ 00:04:10.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
45 00:04:10.940 ⇒ 00:04:13.909 Samuel Roberts: And then some of these, is that Amber on a lot of these, too?
46 00:04:14.530 ⇒ 00:04:20.169 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but, like, these aren’t gonna, like, these aren’t not gonna get done today, right?
47 00:04:20.320 ⇒ 00:04:25.020 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Yeah, a lot of them aren’t us, and Amber’s also.
48 00:04:25.020 ⇒ 00:04:28.939 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, no, no, but that’s not the question. Like, they’re in the cycle.
49 00:04:28.940 ⇒ 00:04:29.900 Mustafa Raja: That’s the question.
50 00:04:30.610 ⇒ 00:04:34.229 Mustafa Raja: They aren’t being done today. Yeah, that’s correct.
51 00:04:35.060 ⇒ 00:04:35.620 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
52 00:04:36.340 ⇒ 00:04:39.800 Samuel Roberts: automatically put in the cycle when they’re triaged? What’s the process there?
53 00:04:40.240 ⇒ 00:04:43.149 Mustafa Raja: No, no, no. Yeah, I think, yeah.
54 00:04:43.950 ⇒ 00:04:44.550 Casie Aviles: What?
55 00:04:45.720 ⇒ 00:04:47.049 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think so.
56 00:04:48.570 ⇒ 00:04:52.359 Casie Aviles: When we… the process, basically, is just we… we…
57 00:04:52.620 ⇒ 00:04:56.420 Casie Aviles: Assign it based on who is,
58 00:04:56.870 ⇒ 00:05:06.269 Casie Aviles: Like, for example, if it’s a central dock fix, it would be assigned to Jenny’s or Tara, if it’s for pest or mechanical.
59 00:05:06.790 ⇒ 00:05:14.360 Casie Aviles: Than if it’s, within our responsibility, which are, like, fixes to the prompt, or… Right.
60 00:05:15.060 ⇒ 00:05:21.129 Casie Aviles: Yeah, AI stuff, that would get assigned to me or Mustafa.
61 00:05:21.540 ⇒ 00:05:22.560 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
62 00:05:22.560 ⇒ 00:05:30.200 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so one thing, Rico, let’s put a note, to talk to Amber, because this is, like, horrible. How do you even manage this?
63 00:05:30.580 ⇒ 00:05:38.659 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so I guess I will… filter out the…
64 00:05:39.450 ⇒ 00:05:44.610 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I guess, like, you guys may be on here, right? So… I’ll just filter.
65 00:05:44.610 ⇒ 00:05:46.540 Samuel Roberts: Amber… Maybe.
66 00:05:46.540 ⇒ 00:05:50.349 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah… And then there might be a few other…
67 00:05:51.160 ⇒ 00:05:55.920 Samuel Roberts: That are… In Eastern… oh, that even works, too.
68 00:05:57.170 ⇒ 00:05:58.130 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
69 00:05:59.630 ⇒ 00:06:02.749 Uttam Kumaran: So then let’s talk about these guys.
70 00:06:06.060 ⇒ 00:06:13.809 Casie Aviles: Yeah, so some of these tickets are… I did just tag Jenny’s there in some of those tickets.
71 00:06:14.990 ⇒ 00:06:20.509 Uttam Kumaran: And you’re… and what do you mean when you tag… when you… when you tag them, are you sending in Slack?
72 00:06:21.410 ⇒ 00:06:31.170 Casie Aviles: No, usually what happens is, when Amber meets with them, with working sessions, he, takes a look at, those with Janice.
73 00:06:31.280 ⇒ 00:06:34.040 Casie Aviles: Or sometimes when Jenny’s has,
74 00:06:34.350 ⇒ 00:06:39.190 Casie Aviles: Sometimes Denise also responds to the tickets themselves.
75 00:06:42.010 ⇒ 00:06:45.119 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, Janiece seems to use linear, I don’t know if Tara does or not.
76 00:06:45.960 ⇒ 00:06:47.329 Mustafa Raja: She introduced.
77 00:06:48.070 ⇒ 00:06:56.090 Samuel Roberts: Okay, cool. I know on the call last night, Uten, Janice mentioned she was getting some tickets that should have gone to other people, too.
78 00:06:57.970 ⇒ 00:07:02.420 Samuel Roberts: I’ll look that up and let us know, because I think she was getting…
79 00:07:03.620 ⇒ 00:07:06.289 Samuel Roberts: Some for different departments and stuff, but…
80 00:07:07.180 ⇒ 00:07:08.979 Samuel Roberts: I’ll see if I can find that real quick.
81 00:07:09.360 ⇒ 00:07:10.060 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
82 00:07:11.440 ⇒ 00:07:13.919 Samuel Roberts: So that we know that, but yeah, that doesn’t affect anything right now.
83 00:07:13.920 ⇒ 00:07:21.370 Uttam Kumaran: Well, like, well, like, I guess, yeah, I guess my question is, like, are these… like, one, are they… do they use Slack? Like, are they in our Slack?
84 00:07:23.430 ⇒ 00:07:27.340 Casie Aviles: Yes, they have, like, an external… Client selection.
85 00:07:27.340 ⇒ 00:07:35.240 Uttam Kumaran: From a principal perspective, I’m like, these are in Sprint, so how do we get them done today? Is, like, what I’m trying to find out.
86 00:07:35.240 ⇒ 00:07:50.230 Uttam Kumaran: Because this looks horrible right now. This looks like we’re not gonna get done… we’re not gonna get shit done this week. Meaning, like, in terms of status, like, updates, I get that these are all, like, in review. So, I guess, give me a sense of, like, what I can do today
87 00:07:50.300 ⇒ 00:07:55.580 Uttam Kumaran: Should I just, like… Send them, like, hey, all of this is ready for your review.
88 00:07:56.120 ⇒ 00:08:02.330 Uttam Kumaran: Because I don’t want our team progress to get dinged because they’re not reviewing, right?
89 00:08:03.960 ⇒ 00:08:05.000 Samuel Roberts: Hmm.
90 00:08:08.770 ⇒ 00:08:11.959 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think that that’s… that should be fine.
91 00:08:12.510 ⇒ 00:08:19.910 Casie Aviles: We could send them… another… Like, a notification that we’re… that we… these are in review.
92 00:08:21.170 ⇒ 00:08:25.470 Uttam Kumaran: And again, like, I just… I guess I’m asking, like, are they in our external…
93 00:08:25.590 ⇒ 00:08:27.869 Uttam Kumaran: Slack? Like, do they use that?
94 00:08:30.170 ⇒ 00:08:31.930 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, but it…
95 00:08:31.960 ⇒ 00:08:33.119 Casie Aviles: They’re in an extreme…
96 00:08:33.120 ⇒ 00:08:34.950 Uttam Kumaran: How do you guys communicate with them?
97 00:08:36.270 ⇒ 00:08:37.750 Casie Aviles: We mostly…
98 00:08:37.780 ⇒ 00:08:38.679 Uttam Kumaran: Because I don’t see a.
99 00:08:38.679 ⇒ 00:08:39.579 Casie Aviles: message you and Chuck.
100 00:08:40.919 ⇒ 00:08:43.209 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay. So… Yeah.
101 00:08:43.400 ⇒ 00:08:50.960 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, let’s say I’m a brand new PM coming on this project, and I want to help you guys get these tickets out the door today. What should I do?
102 00:08:52.730 ⇒ 00:08:53.909 Uttam Kumaran: What should I do?
103 00:08:57.680 ⇒ 00:08:58.620 Casie Aviles: I think…
104 00:08:59.020 ⇒ 00:09:06.410 Casie Aviles: I usually send them messages in the Google Chat, and that’s also where I see Amber frequently messaging them.
105 00:09:06.520 ⇒ 00:09:09.019 Casie Aviles: They have, like, group chats there.
106 00:09:09.620 ⇒ 00:09:15.850 Casie Aviles: Okay. So, I think that we could definitely send it there as well, maybe they’re not as active on Slack.
107 00:09:17.250 ⇒ 00:09:18.290 Casie Aviles: I think it’s…
108 00:09:18.290 ⇒ 00:09:18.940 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
109 00:09:18.940 ⇒ 00:09:19.540 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
110 00:09:20.170 ⇒ 00:09:30.890 Uttam Kumaran: So one thing I think, Rico, we can add, one is I’m gonna see if they can be active on Slack, because I’m not gonna go to Google Chat. Second…
111 00:09:30.890 ⇒ 00:09:31.550 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
112 00:09:31.720 ⇒ 00:09:37.409 Uttam Kumaran: If they are, then I will just… I’m just gonna… Basically, copy all these.
113 00:09:39.190 ⇒ 00:09:44.730 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna, like, copy all these, use AI to generate, like, an update, and say, like, all these are ready to go.
114 00:09:44.850 ⇒ 00:09:51.940 Uttam Kumaran: Second piece, Rico, to add is, I don’t think, like, if… if…
115 00:09:52.150 ⇒ 00:10:04.990 Uttam Kumaran: like, I just, like, don’t think our team should get dinged on our sprint progress by the fact that they’re not reviewing these, so I’m gonna basically issue, like, an SLA that, like, these need to be reviewed within four, like.
116 00:10:05.370 ⇒ 00:10:11.239 Uttam Kumaran: 24 hours or so, and… Like, we need to get this done.
117 00:10:11.380 ⇒ 00:10:20.039 Uttam Kumaran: So I’ll find a way to get this out, and then we should automate this whole thing. Like, there’s no reason for Amber to be in between
118 00:10:20.640 ⇒ 00:10:28.659 Uttam Kumaran: like, you guys get this done, it’s verified, and then Amber has to go into Google Chat and DM, like, that’s the stupidest thing ever, so…
119 00:10:29.460 ⇒ 00:10:31.670 Uttam Kumaran: Sorry, rant over, so I’ll figure that out for y’all.
120 00:10:31.670 ⇒ 00:10:32.150 Samuel Roberts: offices.
121 00:10:32.150 ⇒ 00:10:35.880 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so let’s talk about stuff here.
122 00:10:36.120 ⇒ 00:10:39.419 Uttam Kumaran: I guess, tell me about, like, our… so…
123 00:10:39.920 ⇒ 00:10:44.519 Uttam Kumaran: One, also, like, none of these are pointed, so can I point some of these?
124 00:10:45.860 ⇒ 00:10:48.009 Uttam Kumaran: Or am I just not seeing the points?
125 00:10:48.260 ⇒ 00:10:50.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, can I point some of these?
126 00:10:51.790 ⇒ 00:10:55.030 Casie Aviles: Yeah, sure. Yeah, okay.
127 00:10:55.030 ⇒ 00:10:58.339 Uttam Kumaran: You could just… you could literally just go, like, let’s just go, like, down this list.
128 00:10:58.780 ⇒ 00:10:59.460 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
129 00:11:03.590 ⇒ 00:11:05.130 Mustafa Raja: What does zero mean?
130 00:11:06.380 ⇒ 00:11:09.640 Uttam Kumaran: Zero means, less than an hour.
131 00:11:10.260 ⇒ 00:11:11.870 Uttam Kumaran: 30 minutes or less.
132 00:11:12.160 ⇒ 00:11:12.870 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.
133 00:11:14.510 ⇒ 00:11:18.609 Casie Aviles: Yeah, a lot of the tickets are just… are zero.
134 00:11:18.950 ⇒ 00:11:20.520 Casie Aviles: Points.
135 00:11:20.630 ⇒ 00:11:26.900 Casie Aviles: That’s… they look like a lot, but, you know, they’re just mostly testing I guess Kate.
136 00:11:26.900 ⇒ 00:11:35.969 Uttam Kumaran: Casey, for one… for 1, 2, 3, 4, would you say that this whole… all of them took more than an hour to do? Like, cumulative?
137 00:11:37.840 ⇒ 00:11:44.670 Casie Aviles: Which tickets, like, these in review, and the one in turn now? Yeah, okay. Let me check.
138 00:11:45.800 ⇒ 00:11:47.399 Uttam Kumaran: 1, 2, 3, 4.
139 00:11:50.290 ⇒ 00:11:52.820 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I would say a little over an hour.
140 00:11:53.470 ⇒ 00:11:57.370 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. So what I’m gonna do is, I’m gonna put… I’m gonna put…
141 00:11:57.530 ⇒ 00:11:59.799 Uttam Kumaran: I set one of them at 2.
142 00:12:00.300 ⇒ 00:12:03.169 Uttam Kumaran: And then the rest can be zeros.
143 00:12:08.350 ⇒ 00:12:13.169 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. And then, Mustafa, how about you? These are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 7?
144 00:12:13.630 ⇒ 00:12:16.069 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let’s do… let’s do three.
145 00:12:19.270 ⇒ 00:12:20.620 Uttam Kumaran: Great, thank you.
146 00:12:41.170 ⇒ 00:12:48.850 Uttam Kumaran: And all of these are in client review. So what is internal review versus client review in this situation? Does someone internally take a look at these?
147 00:12:49.550 ⇒ 00:12:55.110 Mustafa Raja: I have a… I just haven’t had the toput things in internal review. Okay.
148 00:12:55.280 ⇒ 00:13:03.730 Samuel Roberts: This is something that I noticed before, and I had sent Justin a big thing. There’s a ton of different statuses across clients.
149 00:13:04.600 ⇒ 00:13:07.280 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, where… can you… can you tag me in, like, whatever you.
150 00:13:07.280 ⇒ 00:13:09.799 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’ll pull that message out.
151 00:13:10.010 ⇒ 00:13:12.409 Uttam Kumaran: Send it in, send it in delivery.
152 00:13:12.680 ⇒ 00:13:19.910 Uttam Kumaran: And I’ll give you… I’ll answer, because I have standard… I have a… we have a standard process for… and definitions for all these, so I can clarify.
153 00:13:19.910 ⇒ 00:13:25.319 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, because, like, we got, like, stakeholder review got added to this one, but not the others, and, like…
154 00:13:26.060 ⇒ 00:13:29.330 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, Vish… okay, okay, great. And then…
155 00:13:29.330 ⇒ 00:13:29.870 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
156 00:13:30.030 ⇒ 00:13:33.509 Uttam Kumaran: So, give me a sense of… This is still blocked.
157 00:13:33.840 ⇒ 00:13:35.430 Uttam Kumaran: Do you need me to help push this?
158 00:13:35.430 ⇒ 00:13:38.459 Samuel Roberts: Why is this even moved into the cycle?
159 00:13:38.890 ⇒ 00:13:43.200 Uttam Kumaran: And he says, we’re watching your PRs, and I don’t care about this, really.
160 00:13:43.200 ⇒ 00:13:45.540 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, Linear moved it in, I don’t know…
161 00:13:46.380 ⇒ 00:13:52.240 Samuel Roberts: A bunch of these got moved by linear four days ago, and I’m thinking they’re not even supposed to be in this cycle.
162 00:13:52.650 ⇒ 00:13:53.559 Samuel Roberts: I wonder if Amber…
163 00:13:53.560 ⇒ 00:13:54.010 Uttam Kumaran: And then…
164 00:13:54.010 ⇒ 00:13:56.039 Samuel Roberts: I have to stay on top of that better, and…
165 00:13:56.690 ⇒ 00:13:58.310 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, same with…
166 00:13:58.310 ⇒ 00:14:07.329 Samuel Roberts: A bunch of these guys. Yeah, exactly. So that’s why I’m like… I think that… I was very surprised to see all these triaged the same way you were this morning, because I’m not used to that either when we have these calls.
167 00:14:07.470 ⇒ 00:14:09.860 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know if Linear just moved a bunch up.
168 00:14:10.900 ⇒ 00:14:14.059 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, and then, I guess, Mustafa, tell me about these two.
169 00:14:14.910 ⇒ 00:14:19.720 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so, if we… in terms of estimate, or what’s the solution?
170 00:14:19.720 ⇒ 00:14:23.429 Uttam Kumaran: In terms of estimate, and like, are they actually in progress right now? Yeah.
171 00:14:23.430 ⇒ 00:14:31.000 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, these are in progress, and, two points, feel fair for them. These are some big changes.
172 00:14:34.610 ⇒ 00:14:39.080 Uttam Kumaran: And then, like, for example.
173 00:14:39.080 ⇒ 00:14:40.780 Mustafa Raja: I’ve made progress with this.
174 00:14:41.300 ⇒ 00:14:46.110 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I guess, no, no, no, my question is, like, did you guys plan to do this on Monday?
175 00:14:48.290 ⇒ 00:14:49.839 Uttam Kumaran: Or, like, did this come up?
176 00:14:49.980 ⇒ 00:14:51.030 Uttam Kumaran: midweek.
177 00:14:52.920 ⇒ 00:15:02.330 Mustafa Raja: I think, what we do is we, we, we input these triages daily, as they come.
178 00:15:04.300 ⇒ 00:15:07.419 Uttam Kumaran: But how do you know, like, which one’s important or not?
179 00:15:08.860 ⇒ 00:15:11.419 Mustafa Raja: I just work on whatever, whatever.
180 00:15:11.420 ⇒ 00:15:12.930 Casie Aviles: Yeah, we… we…
181 00:15:13.530 ⇒ 00:15:14.200 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, Amber usually.
182 00:15:14.200 ⇒ 00:15:14.560 Casie Aviles: I think so.
183 00:15:14.560 ⇒ 00:15:16.199 Samuel Roberts: that out, so, like, I’m wondering…
184 00:15:16.470 ⇒ 00:15:20.490 Samuel Roberts: I think a bunch of these are not… in this cycle, or shouldn’.
185 00:15:20.490 ⇒ 00:15:24.670 Uttam Kumaran: I guess, let me ask another question. If this doesn’t happen today.
186 00:15:25.680 ⇒ 00:15:30.060 Uttam Kumaran: who, like, what happens? Like, let’s… let’s just say this, we don’t get this done.
187 00:15:31.620 ⇒ 00:15:33.550 Uttam Kumaran: Is anyone gonna yell at me?
188 00:15:34.570 ⇒ 00:15:35.720 Mustafa Raja: I didn’t think so.
189 00:15:36.270 ⇒ 00:15:39.630 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so then we’re not doing it. I guess that’s what I’m saying.
190 00:15:39.630 ⇒ 00:15:45.259 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, I don’t think… I think that’s where Amber’s, like… Check-ins with them.
191 00:15:45.410 ⇒ 00:15:47.760 Samuel Roberts: Knowing which ones are the big ones.
192 00:15:48.250 ⇒ 00:15:51.089 Uttam Kumaran: And Amber has a better sense of some of this, too, I think.
193 00:15:52.010 ⇒ 00:15:57.249 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay, so this is the state of our world right now, right? So I, today.
194 00:15:57.610 ⇒ 00:16:03.589 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll sign up for a couple things. One, I’m gonna get… I’m gonna send them, hey, one, I need you guys in Slack.
195 00:16:03.780 ⇒ 00:16:17.930 Uttam Kumaran: this is, like, I don’t know what the fuck we’re doing in Google. So, okay, so one, they’re gonna be in Slack. If not, they’re gonna be in email, because I can’t go into their Google. So… and then second, I’m gonna say, these are all ready to go.
196 00:16:18.120 ⇒ 00:16:19.000 Uttam Kumaran: like…
197 00:16:19.140 ⇒ 00:16:27.769 Uttam Kumaran: can you please just double-check today if we need… I’m gonna mark all these as done today, unless there’s, like, any feedback that comes in. And then…
198 00:16:28.080 ⇒ 00:16:30.940 Uttam Kumaran: Rico, long-term, I want to propose two things. One.
199 00:16:31.050 ⇒ 00:16:49.329 Uttam Kumaran: triage tickets, they need to be reviewed by the client and closed within 48 hours. So ideally, as long as these all get pushed by Friday, or, like, whatever, they can get all done by the next sprint. So I want us to get credit for getting these done. Otherwise, it’s gonna look really bad on your sprint reports that, like.
200 00:16:49.340 ⇒ 00:16:54.420 Uttam Kumaran: tickets are always getting pushed. It’ll look like the team isn’t getting stuffed on within the sprint, so…
201 00:16:54.840 ⇒ 00:16:59.130 Uttam Kumaran: And it’s just not the case. So we’ll get all that… we’ll get all of that sorted today.
202 00:16:59.310 ⇒ 00:17:07.580 Uttam Kumaran: And then second, we’ll do… I’ll work on the automations also, Rico, for triage. Triage means
203 00:17:07.579 ⇒ 00:17:21.170 Uttam Kumaran: It’s… there’s no… there can’t be automation, like, unless there’s automatic triage. Triage means for triage. Like, someone has to go in and assign points, urgency, and who’s gonna do it, and then it moves into cycle. There’s no, like.
204 00:17:21.339 ⇒ 00:17:33.109 Uttam Kumaran: robot can’t do that, or robot needs to do those things, right? Yeah. It’s not an automatic no change, so that’s another thing we’ll figure out. Okay, great. So let’s talk about AI.
205 00:17:33.320 ⇒ 00:17:40.609 Uttam Kumaran: team stuff, so… I saw… I know there were some changes for Turbo Puffer yesterday. Is this in review now?
206 00:17:40.610 ⇒ 00:17:44.150 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I made a PR also a loom.
207 00:17:45.190 ⇒ 00:17:47.129 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, saw that last night, I’ll take a look.
208 00:17:49.390 ⇒ 00:17:51.740 Uttam Kumaran: Is this, this is the PR.
209 00:17:53.260 ⇒ 00:17:54.879 Samuel Roberts: It should be the same PR, right?
210 00:17:55.280 ⇒ 00:17:56.430 Samuel Roberts: Same branch, yeah.
211 00:17:56.430 ⇒ 00:17:57.190 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
212 00:17:57.490 ⇒ 00:18:01.839 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. And then… Casey, how do you feel about these?
213 00:18:02.720 ⇒ 00:18:10.469 Casie Aviles: I think, I should be… I should… I can start with this AI536, but 535…
214 00:18:12.190 ⇒ 00:18:13.950 Casie Aviles: This might get pushed.
215 00:18:14.560 ⇒ 00:18:17.180 Casie Aviles: I might not be able to complete this, but…
216 00:18:17.780 ⇒ 00:18:22.460 Uttam Kumaran: I would actually, because this is NPR, I don’t think it’s worth…
217 00:18:22.860 ⇒ 00:18:24.790 Uttam Kumaran: Like, working on these right now.
218 00:18:24.990 ⇒ 00:18:26.439 Uttam Kumaran: So I may kick this…
219 00:18:26.440 ⇒ 00:18:26.840 Casie Aviles: Okay.
220 00:18:26.840 ⇒ 00:18:27.680 Uttam Kumaran: Ow.
221 00:18:29.350 ⇒ 00:18:33.900 Uttam Kumaran: Give me a sense of, like, what your day looks like today, like, how much time you have, because I could…
222 00:18:34.240 ⇒ 00:18:35.620 Uttam Kumaran: Pull some things in.
223 00:18:37.820 ⇒ 00:18:42.620 Casie Aviles: Well, I only have, like, just… some work on…
224 00:18:42.730 ⇒ 00:18:48.349 Casie Aviles: Insomnia, I just have one ticket left there, which is a one-point ticket.
225 00:18:48.960 ⇒ 00:18:49.280 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
226 00:18:49.280 ⇒ 00:18:56.240 Casie Aviles: And then… I have… well, I was going to do ABC, but I think we’re going to… we could get the next cycle.
227 00:18:56.240 ⇒ 00:18:56.860 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
228 00:18:57.400 ⇒ 00:19:01.009 Casie Aviles: So, I have some capacity right now for internal…
229 00:19:01.940 ⇒ 00:19:07.590 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so… I think it would be great to get your help on…
230 00:19:12.240 ⇒ 00:19:13.620 Uttam Kumaran: on this…
231 00:19:14.040 ⇒ 00:19:23.879 Uttam Kumaran: I left some fixes on… yeah. So, I left some fixes here. Basically, one, there’s just some alignment issue. Second…
232 00:19:23.880 ⇒ 00:19:24.450 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I was…
233 00:19:24.450 ⇒ 00:19:24.910 Uttam Kumaran: there’s like.
234 00:19:24.910 ⇒ 00:19:30.610 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I was wondering about this, because every other page has it, like, inset in a box. Do we just want to do that for this one, too?
235 00:19:30.920 ⇒ 00:19:32.230 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
236 00:19:32.230 ⇒ 00:19:32.900 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
237 00:19:33.140 ⇒ 00:19:39.119 Samuel Roberts: Because I was noticing, like, I’m like, why don’t we notice this on other pages? And I realized everything else has a background up to there, and then it’s in.
238 00:19:39.120 ⇒ 00:19:49.969 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, second, there’s just, like, I think we just need some design principles, like, this is just too much white space, just wasting, so just compress it, you know, unless it’s necessary, and then second…
239 00:19:49.970 ⇒ 00:19:51.929 Samuel Roberts: That was also from… yeah, that’s.
240 00:19:51.930 ⇒ 00:19:52.260 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
241 00:19:52.260 ⇒ 00:19:54.990 Samuel Roberts: responsive nature of the table, though, too.
242 00:19:54.990 ⇒ 00:19:56.340 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, okay.
243 00:19:56.340 ⇒ 00:20:02.610 Samuel Roberts: It’s just you have it very big, and then I was trying to make it, but there’s definitely more work to do on the responsiveness, too, because it doesn’t.
244 00:20:02.610 ⇒ 00:20:03.190 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, fair.
245 00:20:03.190 ⇒ 00:20:05.039 Samuel Roberts: Completely, so that’s all there.
246 00:20:05.590 ⇒ 00:20:10.990 Uttam Kumaran: I would just say, like, even so, put… put max… put some max…
247 00:20:12.090 ⇒ 00:20:18.319 Uttam Kumaran: Wits on stuff, if you can, because everybody on the team is going to be looking at on monitor.
248 00:20:18.650 ⇒ 00:20:22.569 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, that’s fair. I don’t know, necessarily, if it needs to…
249 00:20:22.670 ⇒ 00:20:25.229 Uttam Kumaran: fits a page. I guess what I’m saying.
250 00:20:25.230 ⇒ 00:20:29.909 Samuel Roberts: Also, I think squeezing that down for the alignment on the side will help with that, too.
251 00:20:29.910 ⇒ 00:20:33.699 Uttam Kumaran: Because right now, it just goes the full width, and I was, like, trying to make that work at…
252 00:20:33.800 ⇒ 00:20:38.649 Samuel Roberts: you know, big N, like, a little smaller, because even viewing it on, like, half the page on my monitor was, like.
253 00:20:39.110 ⇒ 00:20:42.269 Samuel Roberts: Overflowing and stuff, so… yeah. Look at that.
254 00:20:42.270 ⇒ 00:20:59.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, the next thing is just, like, I’m really… and this is something I think, again, we should have… we’ll… we’ll start to build, like, what our principles are for our internal platform, but, you know, and you’ll start to hear about, like, from my product sense on these things.
255 00:20:59.170 ⇒ 00:21:03.040 Uttam Kumaran: We really just need to avoid 2, 3, click.
256 00:21:03.300 ⇒ 00:21:14.740 Uttam Kumaran: flow, like, drop-down flows or modal flows, it’s just gonna really add a lot of friction for users. Like, I tried… I used this today. I needed to quickly get two documents that I knew were here.
257 00:21:14.900 ⇒ 00:21:18.669 Uttam Kumaran: And I had to click, like, 3 or 4 times to find them.
258 00:21:18.770 ⇒ 00:21:26.039 Uttam Kumaran: versus the previous version, right? So, purely as just a user, it’s added quite a bit of friction.
259 00:21:26.050 ⇒ 00:21:39.320 Uttam Kumaran: it helps, I think, the creators, right, which is, like, a design team, but as a user of this every day, I now can’t… I’m now not used to this, and I have to go, if I want to find something in AI,
260 00:21:39.350 ⇒ 00:21:44.969 Uttam Kumaran: I have to go click, like, basically go click once, click AI, click this, click DEX,
261 00:21:45.090 ⇒ 00:21:49.340 Uttam Kumaran: Versus before, I just clicked X and I saw the one thing. So, I think we.
262 00:21:49.340 ⇒ 00:21:55.490 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, we… Hannah and I had talked through that, because we had a… there were a bunch of just chips initially to click on. Yeah.
263 00:21:55.750 ⇒ 00:21:56.949 Samuel Roberts: And it, it was…
264 00:21:58.010 ⇒ 00:22:02.260 Samuel Roberts: Oh, it was bad. It was, like, it looked terrible, and it was, like, too many.
265 00:22:02.260 ⇒ 00:22:02.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
266 00:22:02.640 ⇒ 00:22:05.359 Samuel Roberts: options, but I guess I’m gonna run it again.
267 00:22:05.360 ⇒ 00:22:11.359 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just… but also, like, there’s only two options. We only do AI or data, so you don’t even need to, like…
268 00:22:11.650 ⇒ 00:22:17.310 Uttam Kumaran: have a drop-down, just group it, because I can scroll this in, like, 5 seconds, right?
269 00:22:17.310 ⇒ 00:22:18.060 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I know.
270 00:22:18.060 ⇒ 00:22:18.639 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, absolutely.
271 00:22:18.640 ⇒ 00:22:20.549 Samuel Roberts: Right, for the amount we have. And the sorting.
272 00:22:20.550 ⇒ 00:22:20.900 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
273 00:22:20.900 ⇒ 00:22:28.049 Samuel Roberts: is definitely on the docket for that, because I… she had requested that, and that just didn’t get done in this whole revamp yet.
274 00:22:28.160 ⇒ 00:22:32.649 Samuel Roberts: But there’s definitely more to do here. I’m not… I’m not trying to defend it at all.
275 00:22:32.650 ⇒ 00:22:33.240 Uttam Kumaran: I’m saying.
276 00:22:33.720 ⇒ 00:22:34.200 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
277 00:22:34.200 ⇒ 00:22:40.340 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, the multi-select drop-down was something we needed anyway, because I wanted that for the participants on meetings and stuff.
278 00:22:40.790 ⇒ 00:22:44.500 Uttam Kumaran: But for example, why doesn’t it just drop down when I hover?
279 00:22:46.910 ⇒ 00:22:48.890 Samuel Roberts: Mmm, I have to try to try that, yeah.
280 00:22:49.030 ⇒ 00:22:51.759 Uttam Kumaran: This is… I guess… I guess this is where…
281 00:22:52.400 ⇒ 00:22:55.170 Uttam Kumaran: This is where, like, okay, now that we have, like.
282 00:22:55.920 ⇒ 00:22:58.929 Uttam Kumaran: now that I’m starting to give it a critical eye.
283 00:22:58.930 ⇒ 00:22:59.460 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so…
284 00:22:59.460 ⇒ 00:23:04.870 Uttam Kumaran: A lot of friction everywhere, so I think the biggest thing is just see how we can reduce stuff, and then…
285 00:23:05.070 ⇒ 00:23:17.190 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, again, like, it’s… it’s just gonna be small UI things that are… that’s, like, what we’re gonna do well as, like, great front-end engineers, right? Is just figure out, like, really quick ways to have this. Because, again, this is me.
286 00:23:17.450 ⇒ 00:23:25.589 Uttam Kumaran: If I’m having an issue, think of, like, the average new Brain Forge person, like, they’re gonna be… they’re… they’re gonna be cooked. So,
287 00:23:25.830 ⇒ 00:23:32.890 Uttam Kumaran: I think find some way… again, and again, there’s… these don’t have more than 2 to 5, like, options anyway, so…
288 00:23:33.400 ⇒ 00:23:36.369 Uttam Kumaran: You could literally, like, pill them all, or whatever.
289 00:23:36.370 ⇒ 00:23:47.239 Samuel Roberts: So yeah, that’s what we had done originally, and there were a lot of industry, or a lot of industries, I think, and it just overflowed. But the other thing I wanted to do, and I didn’t get to this, was to make this all part of this header.
290 00:23:47.370 ⇒ 00:23:50.469 Samuel Roberts: Where it’s like a filter-sort type thing to begin with.
291 00:23:51.140 ⇒ 00:23:51.810 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
292 00:23:51.810 ⇒ 00:23:55.339 Samuel Roberts: Like, that… but that was just more than I had time for.
293 00:23:55.340 ⇒ 00:23:58.199 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. But I guess this is where also, like, a lot of that stuff, yeah.
294 00:23:58.350 ⇒ 00:24:03.489 Uttam Kumaran: if you guys ticket this out, try it with Codex, please, on, like, for some of this.
295 00:24:03.490 ⇒ 00:24:07.409 Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah, yeah. Now we have it, I feel confident pushing that into here.
296 00:24:07.870 ⇒ 00:24:09.280 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so maybe…
297 00:24:09.390 ⇒ 00:24:13.900 Uttam Kumaran: do you… I think, Sam, do you think there’s something I can hand to Casey today? I have some other…
298 00:24:14.250 ⇒ 00:24:17.459 Uttam Kumaran: I have a couple other things that will also be really helpful.
299 00:24:18.120 ⇒ 00:24:19.170 Uttam Kumaran: to work on.
300 00:24:19.850 ⇒ 00:24:20.480 Uttam Kumaran: Or do you want.
301 00:24:20.480 ⇒ 00:24:24.209 Samuel Roberts: Maybe, I think if we take it out, I would say let’s take it out, and actually let’s try…
302 00:24:24.570 ⇒ 00:24:28.030 Samuel Roberts: What is it? Not cursor. Too many C’s.
303 00:24:28.030 ⇒ 00:24:28.680 Uttam Kumaran: Codex.
304 00:24:28.680 ⇒ 00:24:34.430 Samuel Roberts: Codex, thank you. Because I think that this sort of stuff might be easier for it to do than…
305 00:24:34.750 ⇒ 00:24:38.729 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know, what else… what else are you thinking today? Maybe let’s analyze it that way, see what you take.
306 00:24:38.730 ⇒ 00:24:43.349 Uttam Kumaran: I guess I was going… yeah, I guess I was going to ask…
307 00:24:44.050 ⇒ 00:24:46.909 Uttam Kumaran: Casey to help me build a simple
308 00:24:47.070 ⇒ 00:24:53.480 Uttam Kumaran: Basically to take on the chat with multiple meetings, like, Oh, yeah.
309 00:24:54.130 ⇒ 00:24:56.140 Samuel Roberts: I would say that’s… that’s less…
310 00:24:56.420 ⇒ 00:25:00.440 Samuel Roberts: If you… yeah, having a human there is probably more helpful to get something up and running.
311 00:25:00.480 ⇒ 00:25:03.589 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. And using cursor, rather than just saying, like.
312 00:25:04.670 ⇒ 00:25:06.540 Samuel Roberts: Excuse me, hey, Cortex, let’s just…
313 00:25:06.790 ⇒ 00:25:08.029 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Try that. Okay.
314 00:25:08.240 ⇒ 00:25:09.520 Uttam Kumaran: So…
315 00:25:09.520 ⇒ 00:25:10.979 Samuel Roberts: This is cleaner, at least.
316 00:25:11.600 ⇒ 00:25:18.040 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so then I… so then I guess, maybe… I guess…
317 00:25:19.700 ⇒ 00:25:22.630 Uttam Kumaran: Sam, do you want to take, like, creating tickets for this, or creating.
318 00:25:22.630 ⇒ 00:25:29.419 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I was planning, I saw it this morning, Hannah had a couple other suggestions, I was gonna take it out as well, like, she wanted a client field and things like that, so…
319 00:25:29.420 ⇒ 00:25:29.810 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
320 00:25:29.810 ⇒ 00:25:30.380 Samuel Roberts: I already.
321 00:25:30.380 ⇒ 00:25:40.319 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so we can just… we can ticket it, then I can… then I can just review it, and then we can go, and then… I think, Casey, I don’t know whether I have…
322 00:25:40.980 ⇒ 00:25:44.889 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know whether I have it here…
323 00:25:54.830 ⇒ 00:25:58.280 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I don’t see it here, but I do have…
324 00:25:58.580 ⇒ 00:26:02.049 Uttam Kumaran: I do have some stuff written, but basically…
325 00:26:02.780 ⇒ 00:26:13.940 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna say chat with multiple meetings POC. The goal… user should be able to… Or…
326 00:26:15.380 ⇒ 00:26:27.160 Uttam Kumaran: Users should be able to select one or many meetings from a client portal or general dashboard.
327 00:26:27.290 ⇒ 00:26:31.330 Uttam Kumaran: To bring into a new chat session.
328 00:26:31.810 ⇒ 00:26:38.930 Uttam Kumaran: Y… There are times where I…
329 00:26:39.860 ⇒ 00:26:42.840 Uttam Kumaran: BF team needs to chat with
330 00:26:43.080 ⇒ 00:26:48.200 Uttam Kumaran: Across multiple meetings, the same plot.
331 00:26:49.000 ⇒ 00:26:54.360 Uttam Kumaran: Or the same client, on the same topic.
332 00:26:54.570 ⇒ 00:27:02.459 Uttam Kumaran: et cetera, the current process for us, and this is probably… I’m the only one probably doing this.
333 00:27:03.990 ⇒ 00:27:17.829 Uttam Kumaran: Is to, one by one, take transcripts, compress them, and then concat them, and then put into desks.
334 00:27:20.000 ⇒ 00:27:20.840 Casie Aviles: Hmm.
335 00:27:20.840 ⇒ 00:27:29.150 Uttam Kumaran: talk, chat, GPT, or… use with… for use.
336 00:27:29.450 ⇒ 00:27:31.780 Uttam Kumaran: So, that’s the gist.
337 00:27:32.710 ⇒ 00:27:33.080 Casie Aviles: Okay.
338 00:27:33.080 ⇒ 00:27:38.310 Uttam Kumaran: I think, like, for this ticket,
339 00:27:38.670 ⇒ 00:27:48.580 Uttam Kumaran: goal is just a POC of functionality, and a simple can be ugly, UI.
340 00:27:48.920 ⇒ 00:27:52.830 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I don’t care how it looks, I just need to… we just want to make sure that, like.
341 00:27:53.150 ⇒ 00:27:55.360 Uttam Kumaran: A user can select multiple.
342 00:27:55.510 ⇒ 00:27:59.740 Uttam Kumaran: And then the transcripts are brought in to, like.
343 00:28:00.310 ⇒ 00:28:04.040 Uttam Kumaran: that, right? So, second thing is, like, for the UI,
344 00:28:04.250 ⇒ 00:28:11.850 Uttam Kumaran: Users should be aware of which meetings were… We’re brought in.
345 00:28:12.120 ⇒ 00:28:25.090 Uttam Kumaran: And can add or remove. The other thing is, most likely will need to compress the transcripts?
346 00:28:25.730 ⇒ 00:28:31.559 Uttam Kumaran: For use or context, it’ll be large AF.
347 00:28:31.990 ⇒ 00:28:40.910 Uttam Kumaran: And what I’m gonna give you is I’m gonna give you my… Compression… script…
348 00:28:41.260 ⇒ 00:28:43.759 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, this is where we definitely want to make it a util now.
349 00:28:44.000 ⇒ 00:28:52.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and you can… Go ahead and… Check this out.
350 00:28:53.550 ⇒ 00:28:58.730 Samuel Roberts: Now, this is distinct from, like, just chatting over the whole client in the chat, right? Because you just want, like.
351 00:28:58.730 ⇒ 00:28:59.230 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I would…
352 00:28:59.230 ⇒ 00:29:00.030 Samuel Roberts: meetings.
353 00:29:01.680 ⇒ 00:29:07.799 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but I guess even the client chat, like, our… the client chat, does that bring in every single meeting? Like.
354 00:29:08.520 ⇒ 00:29:11.360 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t even know, I don’t think that functionality’s there right now.
355 00:29:13.130 ⇒ 00:29:18.980 Samuel Roberts: I think when you’re chatting with it, when you’re on the client page, not the specific meeting page, it’s using the, like.
356 00:29:19.210 ⇒ 00:29:21.489 Samuel Roberts: All the embedded meetings in.
357 00:29:21.490 ⇒ 00:29:22.190 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
358 00:29:22.190 ⇒ 00:29:30.570 Samuel Roberts: So, like, it’s not looking at every meeting, but it’s doing a, you know, vector search over the embeddings for all the meetings that fit that client.
359 00:29:30.990 ⇒ 00:29:31.650 Casie Aviles: Oh.
360 00:29:31.650 ⇒ 00:29:37.509 Samuel Roberts: Whether it does it well or not is different, because it has to… there’s a lot more context to sift through to get to the context you need.
361 00:29:38.150 ⇒ 00:29:38.710 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
362 00:29:38.710 ⇒ 00:29:45.710 Samuel Roberts: And it’s… it’s not the fastest, I will say. This is where… because it’s doing a lot of things that could probably be broken down into a few different ones.
363 00:29:46.180 ⇒ 00:29:47.040 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
364 00:29:47.140 ⇒ 00:29:49.649 Uttam Kumaran: So I guess, like, I mean, this should ideally…
365 00:29:54.040 ⇒ 00:30:03.299 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but okay. I mean, I would say, and I mean, this is another thing we should… we should probably work on, too, is, like, ideally, what this is doing is… is using, like.
366 00:30:03.600 ⇒ 00:30:09.139 Uttam Kumaran: some type of agentic, or some type of rag, basically, to, like, query and bring. It’s, like, almost like…
367 00:30:10.070 ⇒ 00:30:14.380 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, this should feel like perplexity, where the context is…
368 00:30:14.890 ⇒ 00:30:25.029 Uttam Kumaran: I, like, in an ideal world, you have… we can bring in search, we can also bring in all these meetings, and then, like, you know, have references, so long… that’s kind of the long term, so…
369 00:30:25.500 ⇒ 00:30:26.780 Uttam Kumaran: We’re getting there.
370 00:30:27.380 ⇒ 00:30:41.410 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think this still has its use case where you, like, you know specific meetings already that you want to chat over, whereas that other one is, like, all the Slack messages, all the Zoom meetings, eventually, you know, like you said, search and other things, so I think, like.
371 00:30:42.810 ⇒ 00:30:44.229 Samuel Roberts: I think this still has a use.
372 00:30:44.760 ⇒ 00:30:48.630 Samuel Roberts: Cool. Especially because, like I said, that is… Go ahead.
373 00:30:48.630 ⇒ 00:31:06.199 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I have to jump to a sales call, but I think, Ms. Natha, can you just send me an update in the AI team channel on this ticket? And then, the last piece, we have a sprint review later. I would like to keep that, if everybody’s okay, and just run it, like.
374 00:31:06.660 ⇒ 00:31:08.410 Uttam Kumaran: We’re gonna start running, sort of, like.
375 00:31:08.600 ⇒ 00:31:15.620 Uttam Kumaran: these, like, client-facing sprint reviews where we just present, like, what did we accomplish this week? It’s… these are gonna be painful until we, like.
376 00:31:16.030 ⇒ 00:31:27.519 Uttam Kumaran: start to organize how we ship, and like… but I think it’s helpful at the end of the week for all of us to see what we got done across all of our clients, so… if we’re all good with that meeting, then I’ll probably…
377 00:31:28.080 ⇒ 00:31:31.509 Uttam Kumaran: Talk to everybody then, and in book club, if you’re gonna join, so…
378 00:31:31.510 ⇒ 00:31:36.240 Samuel Roberts: Oh, right, book club. Oh, we gotta… yeah, we added… because we didn’t have it last time, right, because there was only, like, a few.
379 00:31:36.240 ⇒ 00:31:36.930 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
380 00:31:36.930 ⇒ 00:31:45.029 Samuel Roberts: Okay, gotta catch up on that. Okay. There’s another thought I had, I forgot what it was. Oh, so I’m gonna take it out those marketing page stuff, and then…
381 00:31:45.250 ⇒ 00:31:47.540 Samuel Roberts: Grab a few of them, probably, and try to.
382 00:31:47.540 ⇒ 00:31:47.860 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
383 00:31:47.860 ⇒ 00:31:51.309 Samuel Roberts: the ones you said, and there was a couple Hannah said that might be easy for me to throw in.
384 00:31:52.270 ⇒ 00:32:01.470 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, just, like, ticket it out, Slack me, I’ll tell you, like, at that point if there’s any other things on my mind, because I use this, like, multiple times a day, so I’m probably the only…
385 00:32:01.870 ⇒ 00:32:05.190 Uttam Kumaran: I’m probably the biggest user of this feature, so I can kind of give you the sense.
386 00:32:05.900 ⇒ 00:32:07.089 Samuel Roberts: Okay, cool, sounds good.
387 00:32:07.090 ⇒ 00:32:08.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, alright, thank you guys.
388 00:32:09.670 ⇒ 00:32:10.120 Casie Aviles: Thank you.
389 00:32:10.120 ⇒ 00:32:11.350 Mustafa Raja: Thank you!