Meeting Title: Default and Interlude Standup Date: 2025-09-09 Meeting participants: Rico Rejoso, Samuel Roberts, Mustafa Raja, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:20.240 ⇒ 00:00:21.259 Samuel Roberts: Here we go.
2 00:00:24.060 ⇒ 00:00:24.920 Rico Rejoso: Hey, Sam.
3 00:00:25.180 ⇒ 00:00:26.240 Rico Rejoso: Hey guys.
4 00:00:29.150 ⇒ 00:00:29.970 Samuel Roberts: No.
5 00:00:37.010 ⇒ 00:00:38.650 Samuel Roberts: Is it just us today?
6 00:00:40.230 ⇒ 00:00:42.880 Rico Rejoso: Not sure, but let’s give a minute. I think we’ll talk.
7 00:00:42.880 ⇒ 00:00:46.790 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it looked like Henry said no, but Tom did not respond, so…
8 00:00:49.430 ⇒ 00:00:52.350 Rico Rejoso: Let’s see, let’s wait for a few minutes, guys.
9 00:00:52.770 ⇒ 00:00:53.720 Samuel Roberts: Totally.
10 00:00:59.790 ⇒ 00:01:04.460 Rico Rejoso: So, by the way, today we’ll be going on with both interlude and default.
11 00:01:04.640 ⇒ 00:01:07.320 Rico Rejoso: Just to save us time, you know, we’ll have the same
12 00:01:08.210 ⇒ 00:01:10.730 Rico Rejoso: Time for stand-ups for bullet projects.
13 00:01:11.330 ⇒ 00:01:11.900 Rico Rejoso: Likewise.
14 00:01:11.900 ⇒ 00:01:12.700 Samuel Roberts: That works.
15 00:01:58.930 ⇒ 00:02:02.079 Rico Rejoso: Okay, maybe this sort of… let me share my screen.
16 00:02:06.060 ⇒ 00:02:08.669 Rico Rejoso: While we’ll wait, maybe go over this for a while.
17 00:02:08.900 ⇒ 00:02:19.300 Rico Rejoso: So, these are the current tickets that we have for default. I have added this one. I don’t know if you guys have created a ticket yet for the refresh latency.
18 00:02:19.300 ⇒ 00:02:22.820 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this bike, is for that, yeah.
19 00:02:22.820 ⇒ 00:02:24.680 Rico Rejoso: Okay, so I can delete this one.
20 00:02:26.040 ⇒ 00:02:26.950 Rico Rejoso: Thank you.
21 00:02:28.990 ⇒ 00:02:46.419 Rico Rejoso: Okay, while we’re at it, before we made any changes, I just wanted to, you know, set up the estimates for all of this, so at the same time, we can track those, I mean, your efficiency and progress for each tickets that you guys have been working on. So, like, for Mustafa, can you, like, tell me, let me know,
22 00:02:46.500 ⇒ 00:02:49.429 Rico Rejoso: The estimates for this one that are for review?
23 00:02:50.970 ⇒ 00:02:54.049 Mustafa Raja: Hmm… This can be zero.
24 00:02:57.120 ⇒ 00:02:58.149 Rico Rejoso: How are you, Tom?
25 00:03:00.140 ⇒ 00:03:00.950 Uttam Kumaran: Chaos.
26 00:03:01.350 ⇒ 00:03:02.160 Samuel Roberts: Hey.
27 00:03:04.260 ⇒ 00:03:12.569 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, so we were, just to give you an… we were just, setting up or, putting estimates on the tickets that we have for better tracking.
28 00:03:13.410 ⇒ 00:03:14.140 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
29 00:03:14.670 ⇒ 00:03:18.100 Rico Rejoso: One second, let me just… allow zero estimates.
30 00:03:22.560 ⇒ 00:03:27.790 Rico Rejoso: Let me just finish this one real quick. A zero, how about for this, Mustafa?
31 00:03:30.670 ⇒ 00:03:32.709 Mustafa Raja: Let’s do 0.
32 00:03:34.090 ⇒ 00:03:34.770 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
33 00:03:37.710 ⇒ 00:03:38.560 Rico Rejoso: This one.
34 00:03:42.140 ⇒ 00:03:43.000 Mustafa Raja: Who won.
35 00:03:43.520 ⇒ 00:03:45.169 Rico Rejoso: 1. Got it.
36 00:03:47.330 ⇒ 00:03:47.890 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
37 00:03:49.710 ⇒ 00:03:52.379 Rico Rejoso: Alright, and this one? This bike?
38 00:03:53.660 ⇒ 00:03:54.850 Mustafa Raja: Let’s give it 2.
39 00:03:56.540 ⇒ 00:03:58.479 Rico Rejoso: God, I just wonder if we’re Henry.
40 00:03:59.430 ⇒ 00:04:03.039 Rico Rejoso: And how about for the combo for speed to lead restriction?
41 00:04:03.880 ⇒ 00:04:05.470 Mustafa Raja: Let’s do 2.
42 00:04:08.680 ⇒ 00:04:24.220 Rico Rejoso: Okay, thank you. So, yes, these are the current tickets that we have for default, so based on the meeting that we had yesterday, more of it were, like, setting up the Salesforce report for the Tier 1, 2, 3, and also…
43 00:04:24.370 ⇒ 00:04:27.460 Rico Rejoso: To reduce the refresh latency.
44 00:04:28.130 ⇒ 00:04:38.749 Rico Rejoso: That’s more of the highlighted part of our meeting with default, yesterday. Your tickets, are there any tickets that we should add, aside from what we have right now?
45 00:04:40.500 ⇒ 00:04:48.710 Mustafa Raja: We can add combos to this cycle. The tickets are there, but they are not in the cycle.
46 00:04:48.710 ⇒ 00:04:49.920 Rico Rejoso: Okay, which one?
47 00:04:55.140 ⇒ 00:04:59.909 Mustafa Raja: Let’s… let’s do whatever comes next in the…
48 00:05:00.200 ⇒ 00:05:03.130 Mustafa Raja: Spreadsheet that we have, let me open that up.
49 00:05:03.460 ⇒ 00:05:06.990 Rico Rejoso: Yep, I have it here, and… This one’s done.
50 00:05:08.630 ⇒ 00:05:10.929 Rico Rejoso: It’s a POSG complexity.
51 00:05:35.570 ⇒ 00:05:37.530 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s 31, no?
52 00:05:39.230 ⇒ 00:05:40.010 Rico Rejoso: This one.
53 00:05:43.500 ⇒ 00:05:47.009 Mustafa Raja: Let’s add another one, migration window.
54 00:05:47.010 ⇒ 00:05:47.809 Rico Rejoso: operation under.
55 00:05:51.820 ⇒ 00:05:52.480 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
56 00:05:52.880 ⇒ 00:05:54.790 Rico Rejoso: Only two to be added right now.
57 00:05:54.980 ⇒ 00:05:59.240 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we can work on more, but let’s add two for now.
58 00:05:59.900 ⇒ 00:06:02.400 Rico Rejoso: Okay, can you also, like, set up the.
59 00:06:02.400 ⇒ 00:06:05.210 Mustafa Raja: 2 each. Let’s do 2 each.
60 00:06:05.890 ⇒ 00:06:06.480 Rico Rejoso: Got it.
61 00:06:11.220 ⇒ 00:06:14.650 Rico Rejoso: Alrighty, and these are due within this… I mean, before…
62 00:06:14.650 ⇒ 00:06:17.500 Mustafa Raja: This week. By the end of this week, let’s say.
63 00:06:23.310 ⇒ 00:06:25.160 Rico Rejoso: Alrighty, thank you for that.
64 00:06:25.330 ⇒ 00:06:28.350 Rico Rejoso: This one is also… should we have it by end of this week?
65 00:06:28.980 ⇒ 00:06:30.110 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Spike.
66 00:06:33.540 ⇒ 00:06:34.470 Rico Rejoso: Alrighty.
67 00:06:35.520 ⇒ 00:06:36.450 Rico Rejoso: 36 credit.
68 00:06:36.450 ⇒ 00:06:39.359 Mustafa Raja: On this, I will meet, Sam.
69 00:06:40.160 ⇒ 00:06:45.599 Mustafa Raja: Whenever, whenever, he has some time.
70 00:06:46.680 ⇒ 00:06:48.269 Rico Rejoso: Okay, for the spike, right?
71 00:06:48.270 ⇒ 00:06:49.599 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, for this pipe.
72 00:06:50.220 ⇒ 00:06:50.820 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
73 00:06:51.120 ⇒ 00:06:56.659 Rico Rejoso: Other than that, I think we have a meeting later with, I mean, yes, we have a meeting later with Lev.
74 00:06:57.210 ⇒ 00:06:57.980 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
75 00:06:58.770 ⇒ 00:07:17.189 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Utem, for the, further tiers, what I, understand from that is they want to, want to let a, run a set of signals, for all companies, and then set of signals based on, based on the tiers that they want.
76 00:07:17.190 ⇒ 00:07:22.440 Mustafa Raja: So we might want to set up, a few more, triggers, no?
77 00:07:32.730 ⇒ 00:07:33.640 Rico Rejoso: With them.
78 00:07:43.140 ⇒ 00:07:48.289 Mustafa Raja: Mmm… I… I guess we can discuss it later.
79 00:07:48.540 ⇒ 00:07:53.210 Rico Rejoso: Okay, you could also follow up on Slack to confirm your question regarding that, alright?
80 00:07:53.550 ⇒ 00:07:54.620 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
81 00:07:54.900 ⇒ 00:07:55.520 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
82 00:07:56.230 ⇒ 00:08:05.449 Rico Rejoso: Okay, other than that, are we good with all the tickets that we have right now? Anything that we need to follow up with? Most of it are for review, but we… I guess we have reviewed most of this one.
83 00:08:06.200 ⇒ 00:08:13.750 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, most of this is, okay to go. The 38 is, yeah, 34 is okay to go.
84 00:08:14.580 ⇒ 00:08:16.409 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, the client review ones are good.
85 00:08:16.860 ⇒ 00:08:18.310 Rico Rejoso: Okay, all of this one.
86 00:08:18.310 ⇒ 00:08:23.090 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. The client review ones are good, and the 61 is also good.
87 00:08:23.690 ⇒ 00:08:26.949 Mustafa Raja: 67, let’s keep it there.
88 00:08:29.730 ⇒ 00:08:35.059 Mustafa Raja: 38, let’s, let’s, move it to done.
89 00:08:35.230 ⇒ 00:08:38.749 Mustafa Raja: And let’s keep the restore there for now.
90 00:08:39.090 ⇒ 00:08:40.319 Rico Rejoso: Okay, got it.
91 00:08:40.470 ⇒ 00:08:48.680 Rico Rejoso: Thank you. Okay, so we’re all good with default. Anything else that we need to add, we can also discuss in the Slack, or if there’s any ticket that needs to be created, okay?
92 00:08:48.940 ⇒ 00:08:49.440 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
93 00:08:49.440 ⇒ 00:09:00.120 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, for, sorry, I just had to… got another call. For other tickets… Caitlin wanted some updates to that product analytics dashboard. Can we make sure that those are ticketed out?
94 00:09:00.800 ⇒ 00:09:01.450 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
95 00:09:03.040 ⇒ 00:09:05.609 Uttam Kumaran: That’s in the default channel.
96 00:09:05.870 ⇒ 00:09:12.039 Uttam Kumaran: And then also Robert asked for some feedback as well, so if we could just make sure that those are all
97 00:09:12.190 ⇒ 00:09:13.840 Uttam Kumaran: It’s all in one ticket.
98 00:09:14.370 ⇒ 00:09:15.739 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’d be great.
99 00:09:17.810 ⇒ 00:09:18.740 Rico Rejoso: Let’s check.
100 00:09:21.500 ⇒ 00:09:34.519 Mustafa Raja: So, Utam, I understand that they want to run, run it based on tiers, and what they would want to do is, run a set of signals initially, and then based on
101 00:09:34.520 ⇒ 00:09:42.709 Mustafa Raja: tiers, they would want to run a set of signals, right? So we might want to set up a few more triggers, right?
102 00:09:42.870 ⇒ 00:09:44.840 Mustafa Raja: Like the enrichment-ready one.
103 00:09:56.270 ⇒ 00:10:02.400 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, sorry. I said, like, yeah, we’ll go today, to that meeting, and kind of figure out what they need.
104 00:10:02.700 ⇒ 00:10:07.699 Uttam Kumaran: And let… probably… now that Lev’s pretty opinionated, it seems like we can let him decide.
105 00:10:07.860 ⇒ 00:10:09.329 Uttam Kumaran: What the best route is.
106 00:10:10.160 ⇒ 00:10:10.930 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay.
107 00:10:11.310 ⇒ 00:10:13.560 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, we should move from there.
108 00:10:15.280 ⇒ 00:10:15.940 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.
109 00:10:15.940 ⇒ 00:10:16.520 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
110 00:10:17.490 ⇒ 00:10:25.449 Uttam Kumaran: And then for Interlude, yeah, I wanted to get a meeting on Friday with Matthew, so I’ll keep pushing for that.
111 00:10:25.720 ⇒ 00:10:33.069 Uttam Kumaran: But let’s just keep sending… just keep sending updates as we fix things. The other… the other thing we wanted to work on there is,
112 00:10:33.350 ⇒ 00:10:37.449 Uttam Kumaran: When you ask the bot for, like, follow-up changes.
113 00:10:37.660 ⇒ 00:10:41.689 Uttam Kumaran: we should… I don’t think it’s best to send the entire update.
114 00:10:42.690 ⇒ 00:10:44.080 Uttam Kumaran: You know what I mean?
115 00:10:44.300 ⇒ 00:10:44.870 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.
116 00:10:44.870 ⇒ 00:10:45.560 Rico Rejoso: changes.
117 00:10:48.390 ⇒ 00:10:56.970 Uttam Kumaran: So there’s just, like, some UX things where it’s like, when you say, hey, change this thing, if it sends the entire thing back, it’s hard to understand, like, what even changed.
118 00:10:57.780 ⇒ 00:10:58.500 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
119 00:10:58.790 ⇒ 00:10:59.849 Uttam Kumaran: You know what I mean?
120 00:10:59.850 ⇒ 00:11:03.400 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we’ll, we’ll have to add, Superbase in there, too, then.
121 00:11:05.700 ⇒ 00:11:16.020 Uttam Kumaran: Or you just need some type of basic, like, run-level, like, workflow run-level memory. Like, I don’t even know if you need a database. Or, yeah, you could have a database.
122 00:11:16.420 ⇒ 00:11:17.269 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, you can enforce it.
123 00:11:17.270 ⇒ 00:11:19.629 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll find past records, too, but…
124 00:11:19.630 ⇒ 00:11:32.029 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we need to… we need some sort of memory, to keep the deck in. That is why I’m suggesting Silverbase, but if you have something better.
125 00:11:32.140 ⇒ 00:11:33.270 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
126 00:11:33.270 ⇒ 00:11:44.749 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll let you and Sam decide what the best route is, but yeah, basically, just, like, think about the UX, especially for the new guy, like, think about, like, what onboarding onto this tool looks like.
127 00:11:44.960 ⇒ 00:11:45.920 Uttam Kumaran: And…
128 00:11:46.450 ⇒ 00:11:51.089 Uttam Kumaran: Like, keep testing, and then see if there’s any other, like, sort of easy fixes for us to do.
129 00:11:51.810 ⇒ 00:12:03.969 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I was… actually, I was about to send him a message, tag him and Matthew to take a look at what it’s currently outputting, now that it’s formatted for Notion. I still don’t love the way it looks in Slack, but I’m not sure what more to do about that there is.
130 00:12:03.970 ⇒ 00:12:11.950 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Slack, Slack, I’m less worried about the format, more just about, like, when you’re iterating with it, it’s easy to, like…
131 00:12:12.460 ⇒ 00:12:15.960 Uttam Kumaran: it’s easy to spot, like, what changed, and again, that could be a mix of, like.
132 00:12:16.370 ⇒ 00:12:27.400 Uttam Kumaran: having it give just the updates, that could be… it could be a mix of different things. Of course, you’re… you are limited to just text, but, like, buttons or whatever, I think you guys can play around.
133 00:12:27.710 ⇒ 00:12:39.699 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, we were just looking at the blocks that they enable, or that they allow, which allows, like, more formatting, but is a much more complicated format. We weren’t sure if we needed to jump to that or not, but, I’m hoping that we can talk to… what’s his name? Mika?
134 00:12:40.000 ⇒ 00:12:43.720 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, get a sense of that over the next week, hopefully.
135 00:12:44.110 ⇒ 00:12:44.550 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.
136 00:12:44.550 ⇒ 00:12:49.269 Samuel Roberts: I was just about to ping them on Slack before the meeting, but then I figured I’d wait first before.
137 00:12:49.270 ⇒ 00:12:53.269 Uttam Kumaran: I just think the big shift this month with them is just, like.
138 00:12:53.400 ⇒ 00:12:58.729 Uttam Kumaran: for you… for you guys, for you both to just keep pinging them and giving them updates, and then try to find some… I’m…
139 00:12:58.760 ⇒ 00:13:14.190 Uttam Kumaran: to spend with them, like, I don’t think the project management on this is gonna be really heavy, but the challenge on this client is getting the appropriate requirements. My job, on Fridays, I’m gonna meet with Matthew, and I’m gonna get you guys more scope. So that’ll be how we tag team.
140 00:13:15.300 ⇒ 00:13:20.039 Samuel Roberts: Sounds good. That’s exactly… that was gonna be my next question, was like, what is the future kind of look for…
141 00:13:20.040 ⇒ 00:13:20.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
142 00:13:20.640 ⇒ 00:13:22.960 Samuel Roberts: And I’m glad you’re… okay, you’re already on that then.
143 00:13:23.280 ⇒ 00:13:24.250 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
144 00:13:24.250 ⇒ 00:13:27.820 Samuel Roberts: Keep moving forward with what we’ve got here, and… In linear.
145 00:13:30.130 ⇒ 00:13:30.710 Rico Rejoso: Yep.
146 00:13:31.490 ⇒ 00:13:32.190 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
147 00:13:32.660 ⇒ 00:13:47.630 Rico Rejoso: Okay, also just wanted to confirm with Sam and my staff regarding the tickets that we have with Interlude, so this was the previous one before the project closed, and after it’s renewed, we haven’t added anything yet, but might as well, confirm which one should be added to the cycle.
148 00:13:49.200 ⇒ 00:13:57.669 Mustafa Raja: Let’s add, firstly, to choose the memory, to store that I can, let’s add that ticket.
149 00:13:58.200 ⇒ 00:13:59.160 Rico Rejoso: Sorry, what was that?
150 00:14:00.120 ⇒ 00:14:03.190 Mustafa Raja: Choose the memory, for deck.
151 00:14:04.910 ⇒ 00:14:10.049 Mustafa Raja: We need some sort of memory, so that we don’t have to send the whole thing back.
152 00:14:10.790 ⇒ 00:14:11.430 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
153 00:14:12.020 ⇒ 00:14:13.210 Rico Rejoso: Set this one up.
154 00:14:15.390 ⇒ 00:14:16.820 Rico Rejoso: What’s the estimate for this?
155 00:14:16.820 ⇒ 00:14:18.039 Mustafa Raja: Let’s do one.
156 00:14:18.820 ⇒ 00:14:19.580 Rico Rejoso: Got it.
157 00:14:21.620 ⇒ 00:14:22.300 Rico Rejoso: prior.
158 00:14:24.310 ⇒ 00:14:29.110 Samuel Roberts: I would say the, 27, the Slack interactive approval buttons is good.
159 00:14:29.630 ⇒ 00:14:30.320 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
160 00:14:33.370 ⇒ 00:14:35.670 Samuel Roberts: Approval decision logs, we don’t…
161 00:14:36.620 ⇒ 00:14:40.149 Samuel Roberts: I wouldn’t… I’m not too worried about that yet, until we get a little more…
162 00:14:41.190 ⇒ 00:14:43.370 Rico Rejoso: You can move this one to backlog first.
163 00:14:43.370 ⇒ 00:14:50.749 Samuel Roberts: No, yeah are we worried about migrating it still, or is it good as it is?
164 00:14:55.370 ⇒ 00:15:00.059 Mustafa Raja: Utam, do we want to migrate it?
165 00:15:00.510 ⇒ 00:15:03.880 Samuel Roberts: I think, I mean, are we good to just keep testing within our channel with them?
166 00:15:04.020 ⇒ 00:15:06.020 Uttam Kumaran: At least we can find that one.
167 00:15:06.430 ⇒ 00:15:14.590 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, that’s fine, yeah, I would just test within our channel. The company’s small, so I feel like I… I asked him, he said it’s okay right there. I would just, like…
168 00:15:14.860 ⇒ 00:15:26.360 Uttam Kumaran: Selectively test in the open, is what I would ask, just so that we skip another, like, waiting for approval. If you guys think it looks good, you can test it in the open and tag them.
169 00:15:26.360 ⇒ 00:15:29.000 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it looked like what you’ve been doing yesterday, so…
170 00:15:29.000 ⇒ 00:15:35.130 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, the biggest barometer is, like, see if we can send a message every day, like, with something, you know? Cool.
171 00:15:35.860 ⇒ 00:15:42.719 Uttam Kumaran: Matthew’s gonna be the busiest. The new guy is… the reason I, like, really pushed is so we can actually get somebody who
172 00:15:42.720 ⇒ 00:16:00.149 Uttam Kumaran: And give us some more time and effort. But again, like, on Fridays, I’m gonna get us some more people and get us some more projects, so as long as you guys are continuing to push, it’ll be undeniable in that Friday meeting, and then I’ll get Matthew to give us some more support from someone else internally, so we’ll be good.
173 00:16:00.460 ⇒ 00:16:07.660 Samuel Roberts: Great. Okay. Yeah. Then yeah, I don’t think we need to worry about moving that one. Have we had any Notion push failures, Mustafa?
174 00:16:07.840 ⇒ 00:16:08.500 Mustafa Raja: Nope.
175 00:16:08.900 ⇒ 00:16:11.180 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I wouldn’t worry about the retry handling yet.
176 00:16:11.510 ⇒ 00:16:16.679 Uttam Kumaran: My only other thing is, like, can we start, reporting out on any, like.
177 00:16:16.980 ⇒ 00:16:19.789 Uttam Kumaran: Create, like, maybe a light dashboard, or, like.
178 00:16:19.950 ⇒ 00:16:20.580 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
179 00:16:20.580 ⇒ 00:16:23.909 Uttam Kumaran: Something to start showing the data.
180 00:16:26.460 ⇒ 00:16:31.719 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, we just… but we can pop that one back up, and…
181 00:16:31.720 ⇒ 00:16:36.390 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay. I don’t mind either way, as long as it’s on your radar. I just want to see, like.
182 00:16:36.500 ⇒ 00:16:52.009 Uttam Kumaran: total, like, which agent was used, who used it, how often it was used, like, how often it was used, the inputs, the outputs, and then, like, the eval scores. Like, and this is something that we should be able to copy-paste for any engagement that we do on the AI side.
183 00:16:52.420 ⇒ 00:16:57.120 Uttam Kumaran: Like, a simple, real dashboard. And, again, we could do it in ours, and then,
184 00:16:57.660 ⇒ 00:16:59.610 Uttam Kumaran: Like, we don’t have to,
185 00:16:59.880 ⇒ 00:17:03.459 Uttam Kumaran: We don’t have to roll one for them, because I don’t think they’re gonna be using
186 00:17:04.010 ⇒ 00:17:07.809 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, I would just rather have the… have it in our instance, and then…
187 00:17:07.819 ⇒ 00:17:08.249 Samuel Roberts: Hotel.
188 00:17:08.250 ⇒ 00:17:09.640 Uttam Kumaran: Invite them to it, yeah.
189 00:17:10.010 ⇒ 00:17:18.639 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think that’s… yeah, that’s definitely worth a bigger, like, powwow with me, Mustafa, about how best to log the stuff from NA to N, probably.
190 00:17:18.750 ⇒ 00:17:20.040 Samuel Roberts: So maybe…
191 00:17:20.700 ⇒ 00:17:25.489 Samuel Roberts: that’s part of the memory thing we want to talk about anyway, Mustafa, where we might need to start logging…
192 00:17:25.950 ⇒ 00:17:31.659 Samuel Roberts: things, because NAN doesn’t really have the great traceability stuff that I was trying to dig into with, like, CopilotKit and stuff, but we can…
193 00:17:31.660 ⇒ 00:17:39.210 Uttam Kumaran: I would also like to do this for default as well. Like, anytime we have an AI or automation engagement.
194 00:17:39.400 ⇒ 00:17:52.299 Uttam Kumaran: I want to have a reporting component. Like, for default, this would be, like, okay, the number of enrichments that happened, any logging, any failures, and, like, the clay stuff, okay, it’s simple, but, like, again.
195 00:17:52.480 ⇒ 00:18:02.189 Uttam Kumaran: That’s… that’s… that’s gonna really help fuel my ability to get us more scope and renewal, because the other people on the team are not gonna have a really great understanding of, like.
196 00:18:02.690 ⇒ 00:18:07.899 Uttam Kumaran: for example, the CTO and stuff is not gonna understand really easily, like, what the go-to-market work is.
197 00:18:08.110 ⇒ 00:18:18.909 Uttam Kumaran: But, he will get, like, if I show him the dashboard of, like, how much usage it’s having, it’ll be really powerful. But, again, that could be something that’s, like, copy and paste.
198 00:18:19.060 ⇒ 00:18:27.999 Uttam Kumaran: Or, again, you could think of a framework and work with Awash, but it’s something that I want to be… basically roll out of the box for every AI client that we have.
199 00:18:29.080 ⇒ 00:18:34.319 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, no, I think… I think the issue that I’m seeing here is just N8N reporting, logging.
200 00:18:34.890 ⇒ 00:18:36.109 Samuel Roberts: Cause, like, I think…
201 00:18:36.110 ⇒ 00:18:41.529 Uttam Kumaran: But you guys tell me if, like, if we need Enterprise to do that, like, we can try to do that.
202 00:18:41.640 ⇒ 00:18:50.490 Uttam Kumaran: Or again, like, you could literally just trigger it as a, like, send a log record to a S3 bucket, or to a CS.
203 00:18:50.490 ⇒ 00:18:52.490 Samuel Roberts: That’s what I’m thinking for now we’ll do, yeah, it’s exactly what.
204 00:18:52.490 ⇒ 00:18:57.490 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, it could be just that, and then that just gets loaded straight into,
205 00:18:57.750 ⇒ 00:19:07.070 Uttam Kumaran: that just gets loaded straight into Rel, that’s totally fine. Like, you can just log one row somewhere in a Google Sheet, or you send it to an S3 bucket.
206 00:19:07.210 ⇒ 00:19:11.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and as long as it has all the information, That’s fine.
207 00:19:12.740 ⇒ 00:19:18.679 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, we’ll dig into that, Mustafo. You and I can get together with that today, because I think I wanted to talk through some other stuff anyway, so…
208 00:19:19.100 ⇒ 00:19:24.499 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. And then, yeah, this transcript has, like, those initial metrics, but it’s similar to ABC stuff.
209 00:19:24.500 ⇒ 00:19:26.359 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely.
210 00:19:26.360 ⇒ 00:19:27.310 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.
211 00:19:28.690 ⇒ 00:19:33.660 Mustafa Raja: Let’s create a ticket to fix the eval’s, pipeline.
212 00:19:33.990 ⇒ 00:19:34.999 Samuel Roberts: Yes, good catch.
213 00:19:35.810 ⇒ 00:19:36.470 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
214 00:19:44.390 ⇒ 00:19:45.790 Rico Rejoso: Signing this one to you, Mustafa.
215 00:19:45.790 ⇒ 00:19:47.640 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, 2 points.
216 00:19:53.180 ⇒ 00:19:54.530 Rico Rejoso: Should we have it by the end of this week?
217 00:19:54.990 ⇒ 00:19:55.590 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
218 00:19:57.480 ⇒ 00:20:00.340 Rico Rejoso: How about for this one for, 29?
219 00:20:02.250 ⇒ 00:20:03.799 Mustafa Raja: Let’s leave it for now.
220 00:20:04.720 ⇒ 00:20:07.069 Rico Rejoso: Want to move it to backlog?
221 00:20:07.070 ⇒ 00:20:07.830 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
222 00:20:08.610 ⇒ 00:20:09.240 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
223 00:20:09.430 ⇒ 00:20:11.400 Rico Rejoso: And the architecture diagram.
224 00:20:12.140 ⇒ 00:20:13.490 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, move this too.
225 00:20:13.790 ⇒ 00:20:17.390 Mustafa Raja: This one and the below, both of these.
226 00:20:17.610 ⇒ 00:20:18.280 Rico Rejoso: Got you.
227 00:20:19.930 ⇒ 00:20:24.020 Rico Rejoso: Okay, for this one, we have… should we have all due by end of week?
228 00:20:24.360 ⇒ 00:20:25.040 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
229 00:20:25.040 ⇒ 00:20:29.900 Rico Rejoso: Or prior to it, since we’ll be having a meeting with Matthew by Friday, right?
230 00:20:31.220 ⇒ 00:20:32.070 Rico Rejoso: What do you think?
231 00:20:32.380 ⇒ 00:20:33.310 Mustafa Raja: Hmm…
232 00:20:34.590 ⇒ 00:20:42.710 Mustafa Raja: I guess memory one, we can, we can decide whatever it is, today, if I may meet with Sam today.
233 00:20:42.900 ⇒ 00:20:43.540 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
234 00:20:43.540 ⇒ 00:20:54.710 Uttam Kumaran: I would say, yeah, we’ll prioritize that, and I mean, maybe fixing the eval pipeline, because then there could be something to show on Friday. Yeah, inter… Inter8, you can… you don’t… we don’t have to do it, we can move the backlog, I don’t really care about that.
235 00:20:54.710 ⇒ 00:20:56.679 Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, I agree.
236 00:20:57.310 ⇒ 00:21:01.240 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
237 00:21:03.060 ⇒ 00:21:07.600 Rico Rejoso: Okay, so it’s… I’ll set the due date for all of this by, Friday.
238 00:21:07.600 ⇒ 00:21:08.370 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
239 00:21:08.390 ⇒ 00:21:09.559 Rico Rejoso: Or prior to that one.
240 00:21:09.880 ⇒ 00:21:10.260 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
241 00:21:10.260 ⇒ 00:21:12.849 Rico Rejoso: presented on the Friday meeting with Matthew.
242 00:21:13.540 ⇒ 00:21:18.159 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, ideally, like, if this can all be ready by, like, Thursday.
243 00:21:18.320 ⇒ 00:21:20.809 Rico Rejoso: Yeah. Like, that way…
244 00:21:21.530 ⇒ 00:21:29.509 Uttam Kumaran: we can test internally, and then I can present to Matthew on Friday. I mean, if, like, the reason I put it on Thursday is so we kind of guard for…
245 00:21:29.660 ⇒ 00:21:31.720 Uttam Kumaran: Like, any, like, small tweaks?
246 00:21:31.720 ⇒ 00:21:36.710 Samuel Roberts: If we do a Friday morning, then I’m gonna ask for… I know I’m gonna probably ask for one or two changes, and then it’s gonna…
247 00:21:37.120 ⇒ 00:21:41.159 Uttam Kumaran: we’re gonna be scrambling, so… Thursday, end of day, would be great.
248 00:21:41.160 ⇒ 00:21:41.740 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
249 00:21:42.480 ⇒ 00:21:44.569 Rico Rejoso: Got it. Set up the due date for it.
250 00:21:44.740 ⇒ 00:21:47.219 Rico Rejoso: And for the internal review, nothing to…
251 00:21:47.980 ⇒ 00:21:50.030 Rico Rejoso: Should we have anything changed here?
252 00:21:50.530 ⇒ 00:21:52.349 Rico Rejoso: End of the sun?
253 00:21:57.730 ⇒ 00:22:04.310 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, the 17 can… Yeah, number 2… Yeah, go ahead, Mustafa.
254 00:22:04.310 ⇒ 00:22:07.150 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, 17 we can move to Dunn.
255 00:22:10.570 ⇒ 00:22:14.289 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, these two also, 30 and 31.
256 00:22:15.220 ⇒ 00:22:15.780 Samuel Roberts: Yep.
257 00:22:19.050 ⇒ 00:22:23.429 Mustafa Raja: Yeah… 2.25 also.
258 00:22:29.980 ⇒ 00:22:35.450 Mustafa Raja: And for 10, I sent a loom to Matthew, so I guess this is good.
259 00:22:42.200 ⇒ 00:22:45.989 Rico Rejoso: We’re focusing on this 3 tickets for this week for Interlude.
260 00:22:46.230 ⇒ 00:22:54.069 Rico Rejoso: And for default, this one, I’ll set up a new ticket for this one to, to provide update for Caitlin, and I’ll assign it to Henry, right?
261 00:22:57.100 ⇒ 00:22:58.110 Rico Rejoso: outcome.
262 00:22:59.150 ⇒ 00:23:03.650 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’ll sign it to Henry. I’m gonna ask Dreya if she can take this, actually.
263 00:23:03.990 ⇒ 00:23:05.109 Rico Rejoso: Okay, got it.
264 00:23:05.350 ⇒ 00:23:05.880 Rico Rejoso: Can you…
265 00:23:05.880 ⇒ 00:23:11.360 Uttam Kumaran: Can you, can you ping Shreya, actually, in the channel? Because Henry’s out today.
266 00:23:11.360 ⇒ 00:23:13.440 Rico Rejoso: These are some really quick fixes.
267 00:23:13.870 ⇒ 00:23:21.320 Uttam Kumaran: So, wondering if you can just… if you can ping… ping in the internal channel and say, hey, Shrey, can you take this today? Since Henry’s out.
268 00:23:22.060 ⇒ 00:23:25.769 Rico Rejoso: Sure, I’ll create a ticket and ping Shreya afterwards, okay?
269 00:23:26.130 ⇒ 00:23:27.769 Rico Rejoso: That is the update, I’m looking at it.
270 00:23:27.770 ⇒ 00:23:31.950 Uttam Kumaran: I would, yeah, I would create the ticket, assign it to Shreya, and then ask her if she can take it.
271 00:23:32.890 ⇒ 00:23:33.840 Uttam Kumaran: That’s good. Okay.
272 00:23:34.100 ⇒ 00:23:34.780 Uttam Kumaran: Alright.
273 00:23:34.780 ⇒ 00:23:35.690 Rico Rejoso: Thank you.
274 00:23:35.800 ⇒ 00:23:48.660 Rico Rejoso: I guess that’s it. We’re set up for, default and interlead for this one. Any changes or tickets that need to be created, let me know, or else you can create that one, and we’ll go ahead, discuss that afterwards during our stand-up for both, okay?
275 00:23:48.900 ⇒ 00:23:49.950 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
276 00:23:50.210 ⇒ 00:23:54.610 Rico Rejoso: Alright, thank you so much for joining this setup, guys, okay? You have a wonderful day. See you later.
277 00:23:54.910 ⇒ 00:23:55.320 Mustafa Raja: Thank you.
278 00:23:55.320 ⇒ 00:23:56.670 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you, Rico. Bye.
279 00:23:56.670 ⇒ 00:23:57.260 Mustafa Raja: Bye.