Meeting Title: Default Interlude Ellie PM Check-in Date: 2025-08-26 Meeting participants: Amber Lin, Rico Rejoso
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1 00:00:07.030 ⇒ 00:00:08.140 Amber Lin: Hello!
2 00:00:11.470 ⇒ 00:00:12.670 Rico Rejoso: Hey, Amber.
3 00:00:12.670 ⇒ 00:00:16.239 Amber Lin: Hi! Ty, how are you doing?
4 00:00:17.680 ⇒ 00:00:19.570 Rico Rejoso: So far, so good.
5 00:00:20.670 ⇒ 00:00:25.170 Amber Lin: I was… I was wondering, I was asking Uzum about this, like, do you have enough…
6 00:00:25.280 ⇒ 00:00:35.709 Amber Lin: capacity? Like, are you… would… I feel like you’re at risk of burning out, because you have operations work, and you also have project management work. That’s a lot to do.
7 00:00:36.720 ⇒ 00:00:44.049 Rico Rejoso: I… yeah, but… I mean, until we get someone to help you out, …
8 00:00:44.430 ⇒ 00:00:48.700 Rico Rejoso: I mean, that’s what I can… that’s what I’m doing right now, right?
9 00:00:48.990 ⇒ 00:00:50.190 Amber Lin: I see.
10 00:00:51.850 ⇒ 00:01:03.900 Amber Lin: I mostly just want to check in on the PM side of how you feel about… right now, you have 3 clients of Default Interlude and Ellie. Like, how are you feeling on each of them?
11 00:01:04.450 ⇒ 00:01:18.310 Rico Rejoso: On Andy, to be honest, I haven’t, you know, done much. I was just asked to create those tickets, and aside from that, I have no idea about the project itself. The project is, like, managing everything on that side.
12 00:01:20.670 ⇒ 00:01:21.780 Amber Lin: I see.
13 00:01:22.420 ⇒ 00:01:26.800 Amber Lin: Let me check if they’re thinking about Ellie today.
14 00:01:27.000 ⇒ 00:01:30.799 Amber Lin: Because if they are, I want them to add us.
15 00:01:34.950 ⇒ 00:01:37.430 Amber Lin: Analytics pairing, nope.
16 00:01:38.180 ⇒ 00:01:40.319 Amber Lin: Time allocations prep.
17 00:01:40.740 ⇒ 00:01:46.780 Amber Lin: Christina… Yeah, I don’t know when he is talking about Ellie.
18 00:01:47.460 ⇒ 00:01:55.769 Amber Lin: Anyways… … Do you feel okay on the default, and…
19 00:01:57.510 ⇒ 00:02:01.339 Amber Lin: I guess, default and interlude side, what are you doing for those?
20 00:02:02.240 ⇒ 00:02:02.910 Rico Rejoso: …
21 00:02:03.050 ⇒ 00:02:17.350 Rico Rejoso: I just follow the, you know, the same process I’m doing with the marketing team, doing stand-up, getting updates on those tickets, cleaning and adding some, you know, due dates, estimates, and following up with the team.
22 00:02:18.830 ⇒ 00:02:23.670 Rico Rejoso: Though I have, like, trouble with, you know, picking up the…
23 00:02:24.490 ⇒ 00:02:37.470 Rico Rejoso: I mean, the project itself, since I’m not mostly aware of how things are done, on their end, but as much as possible, I try to, you know, reconcile with them when it comes to the tickets and make sure nothing is left behind.
24 00:02:37.470 ⇒ 00:02:42.840 Amber Lin: Okay. Do you feel, like, the weekly updates, do you feel like you’re…
25 00:02:43.070 ⇒ 00:02:45.649 Amber Lin: Getting a hand of it doesn’t make sense?
26 00:02:46.610 ⇒ 00:02:54.860 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, it does, it’s just that, you know, especially by… when ending the week, when things get, a bit busy.
27 00:02:54.860 ⇒ 00:03:07.779 Rico Rejoso: sometimes, you know, I can’t prefer, but especially… there was one day last week where I wasn’t able to get any updates from Interlude, but I talked to Mustafa, and he also mentioned that they have, like, less work.
28 00:03:07.820 ⇒ 00:03:11.170 Rico Rejoso: For interlude, and just focusing on default.
29 00:03:11.310 ⇒ 00:03:13.450 Amber Lin: Mmm, I see, okay.
30 00:03:13.690 ⇒ 00:03:18.970 Amber Lin: Do you run those clients’ stand-ups separately, or do you just run them in one go?
31 00:03:19.770 ⇒ 00:03:21.829 Rico Rejoso: I do them separately.
32 00:03:21.950 ⇒ 00:03:34.160 Rico Rejoso: For now, because, Henry, like, for Henry, is not part of Interlude. I just try to, you know, make sure that they have a clear understanding on what project we’re pertaining to.
33 00:03:34.290 ⇒ 00:03:35.629 Rico Rejoso: For each meeting.
34 00:03:36.240 ⇒ 00:03:42.749 Amber Lin: I see. Do you feel like you’re in too many meetings? Because that’s what I felt, I think a month ago.
35 00:03:44.160 ⇒ 00:03:54.760 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, but… but those meetings are not that big. They just took, like, around 15 to 20 minutes, and it goes fast. As long as, you know, we discuss certificates, it’s fine.
36 00:03:55.220 ⇒ 00:03:57.149 Amber Lin: Okay, okay, that sounds good.
37 00:03:57.550 ⇒ 00:04:07.340 Amber Lin: … Alright, let’s see, I’m just… I’ll just check on… these…
38 00:04:07.810 ⇒ 00:04:16.459 Amber Lin: Okay, awesome, everything here… oh, this is great, everything has due dates, and… estimates, that’s awesome.
39 00:04:16.589 ⇒ 00:04:19.230 Amber Lin: And then interlude…
40 00:04:19.700 ⇒ 00:04:27.149 Amber Lin: also exists. You’re doing a much better job than I am. As you can see, like, some of them have due dates, some of them don’t.
41 00:04:27.350 ⇒ 00:04:31.179 Amber Lin: So, you’re doing a lot better than I am. …
42 00:04:31.390 ⇒ 00:04:44.460 Amber Lin: On the… on Ellie’s side, let me check if there… I mean… go watch Ellie. … Where is it?
43 00:04:45.180 ⇒ 00:04:49.320 Amber Lin: Projects… are they doing sprints at all?
44 00:04:51.840 ⇒ 00:04:57.489 Rico Rejoso: I wasn’t able to get any information. Actually, I was waiting for information about Ellie as well.
45 00:04:57.710 ⇒ 00:05:01.469 Amber Lin: Yeah… yeah, let me check, Ellie…
46 00:05:01.660 ⇒ 00:05:06.650 Amber Lin: They asked, Robert responded, kind of, but not freely.
47 00:05:08.490 ⇒ 00:05:11.169 Amber Lin: Like, seems like Robert is running it….
48 00:05:12.060 ⇒ 00:05:12.690 Rico Rejoso: Yeah.
49 00:05:12.690 ⇒ 00:05:18.890 Amber Lin: Docs and SOPs. Okay, do we have a leads, … Notion page?
50 00:05:21.430 ⇒ 00:05:23.749 Amber Lin: The same one you made for Interlude?
51 00:05:26.550 ⇒ 00:05:27.970 Rico Rejoso: Have to check with that.
52 00:05:38.160 ⇒ 00:05:43.120 Amber Lin: Okay, this is the POV… Okay.
53 00:05:43.400 ⇒ 00:05:44.679 Amber Lin: Oh, great.
54 00:05:45.500 ⇒ 00:05:47.960 Amber Lin: This is their plan.
55 00:05:55.020 ⇒ 00:06:01.730 Amber Lin: Google Ads… Event mapping… System…
56 00:06:04.270 ⇒ 00:06:11.570 Amber Lin: Oh, I see. I think what they want to do is they’re… they’re doing some advertisements.
57 00:06:11.750 ⇒ 00:06:31.020 Amber Lin: And they have different… so the first one is get all the sources, so they have different… different places. These are the different systems they use. Google Ads is, like, where they send out the ads, and then GA4, I think, is what they do, the tracking of those.
58 00:06:31.160 ⇒ 00:06:33.240 Amber Lin: Of those ads, and then…
59 00:06:33.800 ⇒ 00:06:48.180 Amber Lin: so they send out ads, and they target different users, and I… each of the ads have different events, or when users do different things at different events, so I think overall, they want to…
60 00:06:48.900 ⇒ 00:06:54.549 Amber Lin: stitch those systems together, because User A on system 1
61 00:06:54.900 ⇒ 00:07:11.080 Amber Lin: and User A on system 2 are probably recorded as separate things, they just want to unify that. So they just have… so they can have a better visibility, probably, of their marketing data. So I think that’s what… no, I think that’s what they’re doing.
62 00:07:12.030 ⇒ 00:07:21.089 Amber Lin: So just tracking and tagging their, like, marketing data and user-related data. I think that’s what… that’s what’s going on.
63 00:07:21.660 ⇒ 00:07:25.519 Amber Lin: If that’s still valid. I don’t know if they had another one.
64 00:07:26.260 ⇒ 00:07:30.490 Amber Lin: Kickoff call, POV… Okay
65 00:07:37.170 ⇒ 00:07:40.830 Amber Lin: There’s this… Oh, okay.
66 00:07:41.190 ⇒ 00:07:43.439 Amber Lin: So, he made new tickets.
67 00:07:44.050 ⇒ 00:07:54.690 Amber Lin: And then… I think what’s helpful here is probably… Taking this page, And then going to Ellie.
68 00:07:54.830 ⇒ 00:07:58.629 Amber Lin: I’ll leave right here. …
69 00:07:58.740 ⇒ 00:08:04.080 Amber Lin: And then you can also set up cycles, right, depending on when you want the cycle to start.
70 00:08:04.210 ⇒ 00:08:11.579 Amber Lin: … let’s see… team settings… let’s say cycles…
71 00:08:12.340 ⇒ 00:08:16.909 Amber Lin: … how long is… do you know how long the engagement is for?
72 00:08:18.640 ⇒ 00:08:20.130 Rico Rejoso: Let me check.
73 00:08:20.430 ⇒ 00:08:23.750 Rico Rejoso: I think it’s… Until the work is done.
74 00:08:28.330 ⇒ 00:08:31.830 Rico Rejoso: I mean, like, how long the project is for?
75 00:08:32.159 ⇒ 00:08:37.969 Amber Lin: Yeah, maybe how long the contract was signed for? Was it, like, 2 weeks, or was it, like, ….
76 00:08:37.969 ⇒ 00:08:39.299 Rico Rejoso: A few months.
77 00:08:39.720 ⇒ 00:08:45.959 Rico Rejoso: Well, initially, what’s stated on the contract is, The target is done.
78 00:08:46.340 ⇒ 00:08:46.970 Rico Rejoso: Right there.
79 00:08:46.970 ⇒ 00:08:48.160 Amber Lin: Oh, I understand.
80 00:08:48.580 ⇒ 00:08:50.239 Amber Lin: I see. Okay.
81 00:08:51.340 ⇒ 00:09:06.629 Amber Lin: … my goals… So… E. Ellie’s issues… J4 amplitude tracking.
82 00:09:07.860 ⇒ 00:09:09.110 Amber Lin: Okay…
83 00:09:12.850 ⇒ 00:09:23.700 Amber Lin: And, like, what we can do is to make these into… … into milestones.
84 00:09:26.390 ⇒ 00:09:32.930 Amber Lin: Let’s see… Status… Okay.
85 00:09:33.290 ⇒ 00:09:39.460 Amber Lin: Yeah, I’ll ask Robert if he still needs a project plan.
86 00:09:39.620 ⇒ 00:09:49.349 Amber Lin: and stuff on Ellie. I think this will be a quite light project, since Robert is already managing it. Probably, at most, it will be
87 00:09:49.490 ⇒ 00:09:51.790 Amber Lin: Like, the same as default.
88 00:09:52.150 ⇒ 00:09:58.949 Amber Lin: … Yeah, but it will be Shreya also on…
89 00:09:59.070 ⇒ 00:10:01.830 Amber Lin: Here, is she on this project?
90 00:10:04.500 ⇒ 00:10:05.570 Rico Rejoso: I think not yet.
91 00:10:07.130 ⇒ 00:10:12.020 Amber Lin: Let me… add… oh, she is. Great. Okay.
92 00:10:12.650 ⇒ 00:10:16.380 Amber Lin: Let me know if you have any other questions that come up.
93 00:10:19.390 ⇒ 00:10:20.760 Rico Rejoso: None so far.
94 00:10:21.010 ⇒ 00:10:21.710 Amber Lin: Okay.
95 00:10:22.100 ⇒ 00:10:32.079 Amber Lin: … alright, we have… That meeting… okay, I’ll probably see you in an hour for the finance meeting.
96 00:10:33.020 ⇒ 00:10:35.760 Rico Rejoso: And also for the allocation.
97 00:10:35.890 ⇒ 00:10:37.450 Rico Rejoso: Monty allocation.
98 00:10:37.810 ⇒ 00:10:40.520 Amber Lin: Yeah, on that one, I think…
99 00:10:40.980 ⇒ 00:10:56.289 Amber Lin: Because I’ll be on lunch soon. I think the prep is mostly, would you be able to copy and paste the previous allocations to this month, and then whatever small adjustments we can make during the meeting?
100 00:10:57.290 ⇒ 00:11:02.500 Rico Rejoso: Got it. Just need to find out, like, whole dash, the… Kayo…
101 00:11:02.820 ⇒ 00:11:05.909 Rico Rejoso: But other than… other than them, I can copy the….
102 00:11:05.910 ⇒ 00:11:12.980 Amber Lin: Yeah. Unless… Yeah, awesome. So just don’t copy any of Kyle’s and Vashav’s… assignments.
103 00:11:13.620 ⇒ 00:11:14.330 Rico Rejoso: Got it.
104 00:11:14.330 ⇒ 00:11:16.049 Amber Lin: Yeah. I’ll do that, and….
105 00:11:16.510 ⇒ 00:11:19.749 Rico Rejoso: That’s all for the preparation for the monthly allocation, right?
106 00:11:20.110 ⇒ 00:11:35.830 Amber Lin: … I think… I think so, because now we have the Clockify and Clockify rail, it should be… we should just be able to view it on the dashboard, and you don’t have to do the, exports anymore.
107 00:11:36.430 ⇒ 00:11:43.260 Rico Rejoso: Okay, so the agenda later on for the monthly allocation would just be to reassign Cayos and Rashford’s work.
108 00:11:44.120 ⇒ 00:11:49.179 Amber Lin: Yeah, yeah, that will be it, and then new clients. So, just making sure…
109 00:11:49.730 ⇒ 00:12:09.180 Amber Lin: Let me write it down for you. So, I noticed on Clockify, there has been a project sprawl. My suspicion is that Giselle didn’t know how to add projects, so she, so she added the meeting names as projects, so let me… down here….
110 00:12:09.380 ⇒ 00:12:11.860 Rico Rejoso: I tried to merge some of it as well.
111 00:12:12.180 ⇒ 00:12:15.060 Amber Lin: Please not coughify project names.
112 00:12:15.910 ⇒ 00:12:18.710 Amber Lin: And… LE Health.
113 00:12:18.900 ⇒ 00:12:30.160 Amber Lin: To… Closify… And… operating… … That’s it.
114 00:12:30.960 ⇒ 00:12:42.650 Amber Lin: … check if… Dash real is… Clothify is up to date.
115 00:12:42.920 ⇒ 00:12:47.300 Amber Lin: And then… Copy, allocate.
116 00:12:47.430 ⇒ 00:12:53.480 Amber Lin: And from July, except… For Kyle and Vashdev.
117 00:12:54.840 ⇒ 00:12:57.850 Amber Lin: Okay, I think that’s… Should be good.
118 00:12:58.390 ⇒ 00:12:59.580 Rico Rejoso: Looked like you’ve been done.
119 00:12:59.880 ⇒ 00:13:01.190 Rico Rejoso: Okay, awesome.
120 00:13:01.840 ⇒ 00:13:04.539 Amber Lin: Yeah, I’ll go check on the drill.
121 00:13:04.990 ⇒ 00:13:08.669 Amber Lin: … Yeah, that’s all.
122 00:13:09.450 ⇒ 00:13:10.080 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
123 00:13:10.400 ⇒ 00:13:11.620 Amber Lin: Alright, thank you so much.
124 00:13:12.210 ⇒ 00:13:14.679 Rico Rejoso: Thank you, Amber, have a good one. See you later.
125 00:13:14.680 ⇒ 00:13:15.919 Amber Lin: See you later. Bye.