Meeting Title: Default Project Automation Work Session Date: 2025-08-18 Meeting participants: Giselle Agot, Mustafa Raja
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1 00:03:28.230 ⇒ 00:03:29.800 Giselle Agot: Hi, Mustafa.
2 00:03:34.270 ⇒ 00:03:34.940 Giselle Agot: Hello?
3 00:03:34.940 ⇒ 00:03:35.280 Mustafa Raja: Hey!
4 00:03:36.730 ⇒ 00:03:39.669 Giselle Agot: Yeah, we’re still waiting for Adam, he did…
5 00:03:40.070 ⇒ 00:03:50.670 Giselle Agot: accepted the invitation, but maybe I can just ask you for now about the spike on form filling. I think that’s what you’re going to be doing with Autumn today, right?
6 00:03:51.550 ⇒ 00:03:57.729 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, … So that, so what that is…
7 00:03:57.950 ⇒ 00:04:07.439 Mustafa Raja: Is we need some sort of data about the, about some of the, some of the websites that the default, has them as lead.
8 00:04:07.770 ⇒ 00:04:09.960 Mustafa Raja: Of potential leads?
9 00:04:10.080 ⇒ 00:04:16.029 Mustafa Raja: So, to extract that data, we need some sort of browser automation.
10 00:04:16.339 ⇒ 00:04:30.659 Mustafa Raja: Since that data isn’t very publicly available, and not a lot of services do extract them. Almost no service extracts… extracts that sort of data.
11 00:04:31.370 ⇒ 00:04:37.019 Mustafa Raja: So… What we need to do is we need to build our own automation around that.
12 00:04:37.470 ⇒ 00:04:43.219 Mustafa Raja: And I did look into, some of the tools that will facilitate us.
13 00:04:43.540 ⇒ 00:04:48.480 Mustafa Raja: Although there was only browser-based, they…
14 00:04:48.800 ⇒ 00:04:53.709 Mustafa Raja: Get us some sort of… good results.
15 00:04:54.970 ⇒ 00:04:56.810 Mustafa Raja: Oh, the rest of them weren’t quite good.
16 00:04:57.010 ⇒ 00:05:01.189 Mustafa Raja: But I need to explore it more, because…
17 00:05:01.760 ⇒ 00:05:05.569 Mustafa Raja: Last time when I did explore it, I used, …
18 00:05:06.260 ⇒ 00:05:13.020 Mustafa Raja: Natural language command. But what we really need is some sort of an agent.
19 00:05:13.120 ⇒ 00:05:18.090 Mustafa Raja: Because… the national language, commands aren’t…
20 00:05:18.310 ⇒ 00:05:19.939 Mustafa Raja: Going to get us too far.
21 00:05:20.800 ⇒ 00:05:22.820 Mustafa Raja: It’s going to suck, always.
22 00:05:25.010 ⇒ 00:05:28.099 Giselle Agot: Okay, so we have a blocker for this one? Did I understand you right?
23 00:05:30.040 ⇒ 00:05:35.240 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I just, … it really isn’t a blocker, I just need to come to…
24 00:05:35.400 ⇒ 00:05:37.910 Mustafa Raja: Tell me if I can use a certain model with it.
25 00:05:38.910 ⇒ 00:05:41.999 Mustafa Raja: I have, I, I didn’t, …
26 00:05:42.920 ⇒ 00:05:46.780 Mustafa Raja: I did mention it in my team channel.
27 00:05:47.750 ⇒ 00:05:49.310 Mustafa Raja: Sultan will look into it.
28 00:05:49.880 ⇒ 00:05:54.519 Mustafa Raja: And, you Although, today I’ve been working on Interlude.
29 00:05:56.040 ⇒ 00:05:58.509 Mustafa Raja: I haven’t touched, default today.
30 00:05:59.640 ⇒ 00:06:07.400 Giselle Agot: Okay, so, when is the estimate time of completion for this one? Because,
31 00:06:08.020 ⇒ 00:06:10.840 Giselle Agot: we did put in, like, Friday. Yeah.
32 00:06:10.840 ⇒ 00:06:11.350 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
33 00:06:12.340 ⇒ 00:06:16.220 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so, yeah, so Friday I did try,
34 00:06:16.760 ⇒ 00:06:19.990 Giselle Agot: I, I, I have, ….
35 00:06:20.360 ⇒ 00:06:23.029 Mustafa Raja: I have, put in, some…
36 00:06:23.220 ⇒ 00:06:28.539 Mustafa Raja: description in the ticket of what I did. Have you got the chance to look into it?
37 00:06:28.850 ⇒ 00:06:33.659 Mustafa Raja: I did, yeah, so that is what I did on Friday.
38 00:06:33.960 ⇒ 00:06:40.099 Mustafa Raja: And it wasn’t very, … what’s it called? Fruitful, I’d say.
39 00:06:40.810 ⇒ 00:06:47.430 Mustafa Raja: So, yeah. The goal was to be done with it on Friday, but… …
40 00:06:47.750 ⇒ 00:06:51.519 Mustafa Raja: There weren’t, any fruitful results, so….
41 00:06:53.230 ⇒ 00:06:55.030 Mustafa Raja: That is why we’re still working on it.
42 00:06:56.300 ⇒ 00:07:00.290 Giselle Agot: Does Sam also help you with it? Like, he can.
43 00:07:00.290 ⇒ 00:07:07.200 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, Sam is… Sam did review what I wrote, and he did agree with…
44 00:07:10.340 ⇒ 00:07:27.679 Mustafa Raja: with my analysis that a stagehand agent is going to generalize a lot of this process for us, because neither the structure of a lot of these websites nor the structure of the forms are going to be the same.
45 00:07:31.440 ⇒ 00:07:32.840 Mustafa Raja: So, yeah.
46 00:07:33.880 ⇒ 00:07:53.010 Mustafa Raja: need some sort of generalization around it, because, you see, if we tell… what it is right now is a series of commands of what to do. And you see that every website is not going to be structured in the same way, it’s going to be different.
47 00:07:53.010 ⇒ 00:07:58.000 Mustafa Raja: Right? Meaning, they might be a website.
48 00:07:58.280 ⇒ 00:08:02.139 Mustafa Raja: where, on the homepage, they don’t have any CTA at all, right?
49 00:08:03.540 ⇒ 00:08:21.780 Mustafa Raja: And there might be, forms of different structures, multi… multi-stage forms, and those sort of things. And if we keep with, these natural language commands, it’s… it’s not going to cover all of it, no?
50 00:08:21.910 ⇒ 00:08:22.910 Giselle Agot: So….
51 00:08:23.470 ⇒ 00:08:33.330 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, at the end of the day, what we need is some sort of generalization around it. And I did not follow up with that, because it took a lot of time on Friday.
52 00:08:34.659 ⇒ 00:08:36.109 Mustafa Raja: So I timeboxed it.
53 00:08:36.940 ⇒ 00:08:41.520 Giselle Agot: Okay, do you have an estimate, like, when… because I could just, like, update it.
54 00:08:45.139 ⇒ 00:08:50.369 Mustafa Raja: Hmm, let’s do Wednesday now. When do we have meeting with default, though?
55 00:08:51.260 ⇒ 00:08:55.240 Giselle Agot: That’s going to be on Wednesday.
56 00:08:55.610 ⇒ 00:08:57.260 Mustafa Raja: Then let’s do tomorrow.
57 00:08:58.370 ⇒ 00:08:59.550 Giselle Agot: Tomorrow, okay.
58 00:09:02.450 ⇒ 00:09:04.229 Giselle Agot: Okay, I’ll take note of that.
59 00:09:04.570 ⇒ 00:09:10.020 Giselle Agot: … But I’m still not here. Aside from that.
60 00:09:10.020 ⇒ 00:09:14.909 Mustafa Raja: Autom might not be, might not be coming me… He’s a….
61 00:09:17.720 ⇒ 00:09:18.589 Giselle Agot: I’m sorry?
62 00:09:18.800 ⇒ 00:09:23.269 Mustafa Raja: Utam might not be coming. We can ping him, though.
63 00:09:23.840 ⇒ 00:09:25.880 Giselle Agot: Yeah, let me just send him a chance.
64 00:09:26.930 ⇒ 00:09:29.710 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, let’s do that.
65 00:09:30.940 ⇒ 00:09:34.219 Giselle Agot: By the way, aside from, …
66 00:09:34.430 ⇒ 00:09:40.370 Giselle Agot: the spike form, are you also doing other tasks, like… That’s still ongoing.
67 00:09:40.370 ⇒ 00:09:46.130 Mustafa Raja: The other tasks really do not mean a lot when we don’t have this one done.
68 00:09:47.500 ⇒ 00:09:51.329 Mustafa Raja: Because this is going to be the game changer.
69 00:09:51.620 ⇒ 00:09:52.700 Mustafa Raja: for the client.
70 00:09:54.900 ⇒ 00:09:55.620 Giselle Agot: Okay.
71 00:09:58.520 ⇒ 00:10:02.770 Giselle Agot: But you think you can make it by Wednesday, or do you need time?
72 00:10:02.950 ⇒ 00:10:04.030 Mustafa Raja: …
73 00:10:06.290 ⇒ 00:10:13.669 Mustafa Raja: For the rest of… rest of the day today, I guess I can work on this, and that should be enough.
74 00:10:15.290 ⇒ 00:10:16.270 Giselle Agot: Okay.
75 00:10:26.350 ⇒ 00:10:28.180 Mustafa Raja: Oh, did I take off a block?
76 00:10:34.930 ⇒ 00:10:37.749 Giselle Agot: Let’s just wait for a few minutes, and then if….
77 00:10:37.750 ⇒ 00:10:39.339 Mustafa Raja: Did you text him?
78 00:10:39.760 ⇒ 00:10:40.859 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah.
79 00:10:40.860 ⇒ 00:10:42.050 Giselle Agot: I think, yeah.
80 00:10:42.380 ⇒ 00:10:52.899 Giselle Agot: Maybe another 3 minutes, and then… Because he did… … accepted the invite, so….
81 00:10:52.900 ⇒ 00:10:53.280 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
82 00:10:53.280 ⇒ 00:10:54.790 Giselle Agot: Just in another meeting.
83 00:10:55.640 ⇒ 00:10:56.250 Mustafa Raja: Yep.
84 00:10:56.590 ⇒ 00:10:57.110 Giselle Agot: Okay.
85 00:11:10.750 ⇒ 00:11:17.900 Mustafa Raja: He said he’s, a bit ago, he said he’s going to get coffee, so I’m not sure if he could join.
86 00:11:18.590 ⇒ 00:11:19.670 Giselle Agot: Oh, okay.
87 00:11:19.670 ⇒ 00:11:21.269 Mustafa Raja: Maybe a few minutes.
88 00:11:21.570 ⇒ 00:11:22.700 Mustafa Raja: Yay!
89 00:11:22.700 ⇒ 00:11:23.330 Giselle Agot: Okay.
90 00:11:25.640 ⇒ 00:11:30.160 Mustafa Raja: So how, how’s your, how’s, how has your time been?
91 00:11:30.750 ⇒ 00:11:32.430 Mustafa Raja: In green food so far.
92 00:11:32.840 ⇒ 00:11:41.580 Giselle Agot: I’m catching up, and you… I told Amber that you’ve been very helpful, giving me understanding of everything, like.
93 00:11:41.980 ⇒ 00:11:47.930 Giselle Agot: I’m trying to catch up the process, and also understanding what you guys are doing, so….
94 00:11:48.160 ⇒ 00:11:55.310 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I understand that it’s really important to understand what the engineering team is doing.
95 00:11:55.310 ⇒ 00:11:55.990 Giselle Agot: Yes.
96 00:11:55.990 ⇒ 00:11:57.519 Mustafa Raja: On the project.
97 00:11:57.870 ⇒ 00:12:02.480 Mustafa Raja: So then, the tickets are all good, and this and that.
98 00:12:03.500 ⇒ 00:12:04.280 Giselle Agot: Yes.
99 00:12:04.450 ⇒ 00:12:05.329 Mustafa Raja: It makes sense.
100 00:12:06.360 ⇒ 00:12:08.840 Giselle Agot: I know Amber’s super busy, so she didn’t, like, have the whole.
101 00:12:08.840 ⇒ 00:12:09.250 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
102 00:12:09.310 ⇒ 00:12:19.399 Giselle Agot: to really train, and then hand over everything, so I have to, like… I was thinking you’re the person to reach out, because I don’t want to bother Atam, I don’t want to bother….
103 00:12:19.400 ⇒ 00:12:19.840 Mustafa Raja: Damn.
104 00:12:19.840 ⇒ 00:12:35.440 Giselle Agot: So, it was just so timely that we had a one-on-one, and then I was asking you questions, and you were giving me answers, so I was, like, able to, understand a little bit, and it’s a good thing that I still have default at the moment to focus.
105 00:12:36.040 ⇒ 00:12:42.890 Giselle Agot: maybe sooner I have, another client, but I think this is a practice for me to really understand everything, so….
106 00:12:42.890 ⇒ 00:12:45.430 Mustafa Raja: I feel, I feel, default.
107 00:12:45.550 ⇒ 00:12:51.540 Mustafa Raja: Default is going, going good in terms of that, in terms of… tickets and gone.
108 00:12:53.000 ⇒ 00:13:09.649 Giselle Agot: Yeah, Henry is also very responsive, so you guys are really doing great, so I’m just thankful that you’re helping me a lot, because I’m having a hard time last week, honestly, but, yeah, I was just thankful that you’re there, and also Henry.
109 00:13:09.650 ⇒ 00:13:10.480 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
110 00:13:11.850 ⇒ 00:13:18.860 Giselle Agot: when you first got in, like, did you all have the same difficulty, or you just right away get into it? I know you’re super intelligent, you’re super.
111 00:13:18.860 ⇒ 00:13:23.250 Mustafa Raja: No, no, no, I’m not. …
112 00:13:23.570 ⇒ 00:13:40.789 Mustafa Raja: I had sort of the same, big, same issue, because, you know, it’s an organization, and I need to understand how they do their thing. So yeah, similar, similar in your case, I had, very helpful
113 00:13:41.000 ⇒ 00:13:45.910 Mustafa Raja: our team members, … have you met Casey?
114 00:13:46.810 ⇒ 00:13:48.369 Giselle Agot: Yeah, I, I did, I did.
115 00:13:48.370 ⇒ 00:13:49.410 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, good.
116 00:13:49.560 ⇒ 00:13:54.229 Mustafa Raja: super helpful, even more helpful than me.
117 00:13:54.630 ⇒ 00:14:05.920 Mustafa Raja: So, I just shoot him a text, and within a minute, he’d reply with all of the information and detail that I would ever need.
118 00:14:05.920 ⇒ 00:14:06.710 Giselle Agot: Oh, okay.
119 00:14:06.710 ⇒ 00:14:11.109 Mustafa Raja: And that really inspired me to be, you know, a helping hand whenever I can be.
120 00:14:11.630 ⇒ 00:14:17.640 Mustafa Raja: Because that made me feel, how big of a difference it makes.
121 00:14:18.170 ⇒ 00:14:19.100 Giselle Agot: Mmm.
122 00:14:19.220 ⇒ 00:14:23.759 Giselle Agot: I see. Yeah, I haven’t, like, worked really with, Casey, because the client….
123 00:14:23.760 ⇒ 00:14:28.560 Mustafa Raja: he’ll… you’ll really like it. He’s really, helpful.
124 00:14:29.390 ⇒ 00:14:30.890 Giselle Agot: Yeah. That’s.
125 00:14:30.890 ⇒ 00:14:31.840 Mustafa Raja: It’s really good.
126 00:14:32.220 ⇒ 00:14:38.880 Giselle Agot: Yeah, he sounds low-key, like, during the meetings, he’s just there on the side, but I know he’s super smart, same as you. You guys just….
127 00:14:39.230 ⇒ 00:14:40.740 Mustafa Raja: You’re smarter than me, too.
128 00:14:43.270 ⇒ 00:14:45.579 Mustafa Raja: He’s humble to accept it, though.
129 00:14:45.970 ⇒ 00:14:51.910 Mustafa Raja: You just, let yourselves go low-key, don’t talk too much, but it’s time for you to talk, like.
130 00:14:52.120 ⇒ 00:15:06.240 Giselle Agot: all hands down, like, oh my gosh, he’s super smart, like… like, the client calls, like, every time you present, like, when you do the presentation, like, you’re really good, so they say, that’s why.
131 00:15:06.330 ⇒ 00:15:09.409 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I just tried my best and hope for the best.
132 00:15:11.090 ⇒ 00:15:13.940 Giselle Agot: Blake, how many months are you already here?
133 00:15:13.940 ⇒ 00:15:15.740 Mustafa Raja: It’s my third.
134 00:15:16.520 ⇒ 00:15:22.069 Giselle Agot: Third, oh, okay, okay. I thought you, like, it’s your… 6 or 7, it’s still….
135 00:15:22.070 ⇒ 00:15:25.010 Mustafa Raja: Okay. Yeah, it’s turd.
136 00:15:25.550 ⇒ 00:15:31.480 Mustafa Raja: And hoping… hoping… I’m hoping to, carry on for a long… long… longer term.
137 00:15:31.480 ⇒ 00:15:34.029 Giselle Agot: Yes, of course, everybody wants that.
138 00:15:34.030 ⇒ 00:15:34.840 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
139 00:15:35.310 ⇒ 00:15:38.399 Giselle Agot: I don’t think Autumn is joining us, because it’s been….
140 00:15:38.400 ⇒ 00:15:41.960 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s most likely going to be that.
141 00:15:42.240 ⇒ 00:15:59.540 Giselle Agot: Okay, okay, I don’t want to waste your time. Mustafa, I know you’re super busy, you have a lot of things on your plate also, so maybe we can just adjourn this meeting, and I’ll just reschedule if there’s a need. Autumn requested for this one last week, like, he wanted to have a work session, but….
142 00:15:59.930 ⇒ 00:16:04.449 Mustafa Raja: I guess I have another one scheduled. I’m not sure, though.
143 00:16:05.550 ⇒ 00:16:06.560 Giselle Agot: Which one?
144 00:16:07.300 ⇒ 00:16:14.039 Mustafa Raja: I think I do have, I’m not sure. I think I do have one more scheduled this week.
145 00:16:14.170 ⇒ 00:16:15.650 Giselle Agot: okay, yeah.
146 00:16:15.650 ⇒ 00:16:18.210 Mustafa Raja: I really need to check my calendar for that.
147 00:16:18.690 ⇒ 00:16:20.009 Giselle Agot: That’s for tomorrow.
148 00:16:20.260 ⇒ 00:16:24.439 Mustafa Raja: Oh, it’s for tomorrow? Yes, you have a works….
149 00:16:24.440 ⇒ 00:16:27.889 Giselle Agot: I think that’s for all, like, you have…
150 00:16:28.160 ⇒ 00:16:33.189 Giselle Agot: interlude default, because it’s for one hour.
151 00:16:34.770 ⇒ 00:16:37.389 Mustafa Raja: Okay, maybe you can….
152 00:16:37.760 ⇒ 00:16:43.630 Giselle Agot: It’s Rico who set that call, so it… I’m assuming it’s for Interlude, but maybe you can…
153 00:16:43.730 ⇒ 00:16:46.289 Giselle Agot: Squeeze in default, since we haven’t.
154 00:16:46.290 ⇒ 00:16:56.569 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, whenever it’s, you know, it’s a work session, it’s not only for one client. We usually do talk about everything.
155 00:16:57.330 ⇒ 00:17:00.780 Giselle Agot: Oh, he responded, no, he cannot… he cannot make it.
156 00:17:00.900 ⇒ 00:17:04.089 Giselle Agot: Okay, thank you so much, Mustafa.
157 00:17:04.300 ⇒ 00:17:05.470 Mustafa Raja: Okay, thank you.
158 00:17:05.470 ⇒ 00:17:06.630 Giselle Agot: Okay, bye-bye.
159 00:17:06.630 ⇒ 00:17:08.179 Mustafa Raja: Thank you, bye-bye, have a good day.
160 00:17:08.180 ⇒ 00:17:09.440 Giselle Agot: You too, bye-bye.