Meeting Title: Default Project Planning Sync Date: 2025-07-23 Meeting participants: Amber Lin, Mustafa Raja, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:00:33.980 00:00:37.289 Amber Lin: Hello! Waiting for Utam.

2 00:00:58.310 00:00:59.819 Mustafa Raja: Hey? Yeah, okay.

3 00:01:44.230 00:01:45.660 Mustafa Raja: how’s your day going.

4 00:01:47.913 00:01:51.180 Amber Lin: I not. Great!

5 00:01:51.820 00:01:58.400 Amber Lin: I have. I have so many meetings. I’m really, really, I feel burnt, but it’s.

6 00:01:58.400 00:01:59.090 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

7 00:01:59.090 00:02:00.200 Amber Lin: Almost there.

8 00:02:02.230 00:02:04.600 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this weekend would be worth it. No.

9 00:02:05.284 00:02:09.190 Amber Lin: Yeah, I hope so. I hope so. Cause I’m moving this weekend. So I don’t really.

10 00:02:09.199 00:02:10.029 Mustafa Raja: Oh!

11 00:02:10.220 00:02:11.070 Amber Lin: Yeah.

12 00:02:13.080 00:02:14.430 Mustafa Raja: Where are you moving to?

13 00:02:15.148 00:02:21.279 Amber Lin: Same city. I’m just moving to another apartment, because my lease is ending up soon.

14 00:02:24.010 00:02:25.620 Mustafa Raja: Which city you based in.

15 00:02:25.850 00:02:32.740 Amber Lin: I’m in la. So moving to a different part of La, because rent keeps going up every year.

16 00:02:32.740 00:02:33.450 Mustafa Raja: Oh!

17 00:02:42.210 00:02:42.615 Uttam Kumaran: Hey?

18 00:02:43.220 00:02:44.759 Uttam Kumaran: Henry’s not here.

19 00:02:46.090 00:02:47.270 Amber Lin: Henry’s out.

20 00:02:53.100 00:02:54.730 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.

21 00:02:58.810 00:02:59.660 Uttam Kumaran: Wow.

22 00:03:00.680 00:03:04.540 Uttam Kumaran: I would ideally prefer for that to happen.

23 00:03:04.690 00:03:05.115 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.

24 00:03:06.980 00:03:08.209 Amber Lin: Sorry I didn’t.

25 00:03:08.570 00:03:11.899 Amber Lin: What to happen. I think your signal’s not the greatest.

26 00:03:12.720 00:03:13.560 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.

27 00:03:14.240 00:03:16.050 Uttam Kumaran: For many of them being tomorrow.

28 00:03:16.220 00:03:17.479 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s see.

29 00:03:19.900 00:03:26.230 Uttam Kumaran: I think, Buff, I just wanted to see if you had a chance to sort of review the documents about the project, and if you had any questions.

30 00:03:34.950 00:03:38.559 Mustafa Raja: Oh, can you ask again if the question was for me.

31 00:03:38.560 00:03:46.949 Uttam Kumaran: If you yeah, if you had a chance to review any of the documents or transcripts from the project.

32 00:03:47.850 00:03:59.109 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I got to read the roadmap and it it looks pretty good. I I didn’t have any questions. Just

33 00:04:00.450 00:04:05.820 Mustafa Raja: What would be the clay work in there? Because, yeah, I couldn’t see any.

34 00:04:06.370 00:04:12.130 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so the clay work is going to be. If you did you? Did you take a look at that like Icp signals.

35 00:04:12.700 00:04:16.050 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I could. I? I did see that I I.

36 00:04:16.050 00:04:18.860 Uttam Kumaran: So a lot of those we’re gonna have to get from clay. Basically.

37 00:04:19.310 00:04:22.260 Mustafa Raja: Okay. So we want to fetch those from Clay.

38 00:04:22.570 00:04:25.642 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, like, you know, things like, how many

39 00:04:26.090 00:04:29.681 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, no. I read about the Combos in there.

40 00:04:30.080 00:04:36.289 Uttam Kumaran: Some of those Combos where are going to be from their product, some of their Combos we’ll have to source from from clay.

41 00:04:36.820 00:04:39.230 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

42 00:04:39.870 00:04:45.130 Uttam Kumaran: So our initial goal is is just to figure out like, what are the groups of signals.

43 00:04:45.530 00:04:45.850 Mustafa Raja: So we.

44 00:04:45.850 00:04:57.040 Uttam Kumaran: Before tomorrow. What would be helpful is if you can create A, and this can be either in notion or in a Google sheet. We can start a platform documentation sheet for

45 00:04:57.590 00:05:02.600 Uttam Kumaran: for default. But ideally, I want to see what what the combinations are.

46 00:05:03.285 00:05:06.130 Uttam Kumaran: That we’re we’re thinking of enabling for them

47 00:05:07.110 00:05:07.720 Mustafa Raja: Kiss.

48 00:05:08.390 00:05:10.719 Uttam Kumaran: Right and almost categorize the signals.

49 00:05:10.910 00:05:15.330 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Okay, so that, wait a second.

50 00:05:17.060 00:05:26.879 Mustafa Raja: Yes. So the document Icp document has some combos in there. What would be my my goal?

51 00:05:26.880 00:05:34.669 Uttam Kumaran: The goal. The goal is actually to right. So I I don’t care about the combinations. Necessarily. I just care about getting a list of all the signals

52 00:05:36.170 00:05:44.210 Uttam Kumaran: and then categorizing them. So some are gonna be from the product. Some are gonna be from Linkedin. Some are gonna be from their stack. Right?

53 00:05:44.210 00:05:49.220 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, so I think a spreadsheet that’s just like the category.

54 00:05:49.370 00:05:53.020 Uttam Kumaran: And then the signal name. And then also, like the

55 00:05:53.120 00:05:56.909 Uttam Kumaran: basically what tool we’re going to use to get it. And then what’s the source.

56 00:05:57.770 00:05:58.589 Mustafa Raja: Okay. Okay. Okay.

57 00:05:58.590 00:06:04.880 Uttam Kumaran: Spreadsheet would be helpful. If you’re not gonna end up with 100 you’re probably gonna end up with like, I don’t know 25 or so.

58 00:06:05.823 00:06:15.438 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s what I would like to present to Ryan tomorrow. And then also, I think once you produce that I can give you like? What are the

59 00:06:15.980 00:06:19.430 Uttam Kumaran: What are the initial set of combinations that we want to go after.

60 00:06:20.050 00:06:21.070 Mustafa Raja: Okay. Okay.

61 00:06:21.070 00:06:29.629 Uttam Kumaran: So for this project, I think it would be great for us to also go ahead and set up a clay instance, for default.

62 00:06:30.140 00:06:30.820 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

63 00:06:31.401 00:06:35.158 Uttam Kumaran: So you can set up a new clay workbook for default

64 00:06:35.790 00:06:40.250 Uttam Kumaran: like. I don’t know yet whether we’re gonna need any. Then for stuff.

65 00:06:40.640 00:06:41.280 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

66 00:06:44.840 00:06:51.079 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, let’s just leave it for now.

67 00:06:51.270 00:07:04.459 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, one. Yeah. One question. So so when we when we talk about signals, does it does. The signal means, that. How are we going to? Get certain combos right?

68 00:07:06.170 00:07:09.079 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s basically like, where are we gonna get.

69 00:07:09.080 00:07:10.349 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, the source.

70 00:07:10.760 00:07:12.020 Mustafa Raja: That’s a source of the data. Yeah, yeah.

71 00:07:12.020 00:07:15.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, cause, we can make hundreds and hundreds of Combos right?

72 00:07:15.800 00:07:16.269 Mustafa Raja: It’s just a.

73 00:07:16.270 00:07:19.370 Uttam Kumaran: That’s basically the combinatorial. So.

74 00:07:19.510 00:07:34.990 Uttam Kumaran: But I want to list all the core signals. And if you make that spreadsheet, I can start to add to it. Henry is, gonna add the stuff from the product analytics side. But if you can just add anything that you like, I I would use, I would probably set up the spreadsheet.

75 00:07:35.310 00:07:39.250 Uttam Kumaran: Take that whole document, plug it into AI, give it instructions, and have it generate.

76 00:07:39.250 00:07:39.670 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.

77 00:07:39.983 00:07:40.610 Uttam Kumaran: Some stuff.

78 00:07:41.104 00:07:49.455 Uttam Kumaran: and then we can start building that out, and that that’ll be what we try to present to Ryan for review another goal tomorrow.

79 00:07:50.430 00:07:55.450 Uttam Kumaran: another goal tomorrow is to also get salesforce access.

80 00:07:56.230 00:07:57.530 Mustafa Raja: Sales for it. Okay.

81 00:07:57.530 00:08:00.120 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So we’re gonna want salesforce access, and

82 00:08:00.420 00:08:07.819 Uttam Kumaran: we may end up. We may need the Api as well. So that’s something that I wanna get make sure is tackled tomorrow.

83 00:08:08.200 00:08:08.590 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

84 00:08:10.390 00:08:17.669 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I guess let’s see how far we can get on the signals thing. And then maybe by tomorrow we can, we can start to show

85 00:08:18.480 00:08:21.759 Uttam Kumaran: some examples to Ryan, depending on how far you get

86 00:08:23.680 00:08:28.560 Uttam Kumaran: To give you give you an example, let’s say I can get the total list of their

87 00:08:28.740 00:08:32.700 Uttam Kumaran: like. Let’s say I can get a couple of active clients they’re going after, or

88 00:08:33.049 00:08:39.049 Uttam Kumaran: we can already start to build towards some of those signal combinations before the meeting tomorrow. That would be.

89 00:08:39.059 00:08:39.549 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

90 00:08:39.549 00:08:41.779 Uttam Kumaran: That’d be sick. That’d be great.

91 00:08:41.780 00:08:49.630 Mustafa Raja: Okay. So the so the goal is that, I lay out some of these combos. and get.

92 00:08:49.630 00:08:50.429 Uttam Kumaran: So lay out all this.

93 00:08:50.430 00:08:51.949 Mustafa Raja: Layouts. Yeah, layout.

94 00:08:51.950 00:09:11.570 Uttam Kumaran: Lay out all the signals, and then also, once that’s approved, I can give you some combinations to produce some sample clay workbooks on where we search, Linkedin, we’ll do. We’ll limit it to like 15 accounts or 10 accounts, and then tomorrow we can get approval on which ones to prioritize first, st

95 00:09:11.810 00:09:15.010 Uttam Kumaran: and how to get that back into into salesforce.

96 00:09:15.110 00:09:15.760 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

97 00:09:17.080 00:09:18.999 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I would. Just

98 00:09:19.537 00:09:24.939 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know amber. If if you can use this, probably this recording to create tickets on those that’s probably fine.

99 00:09:24.940 00:09:27.040 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, one more. One more thing you should be

100 00:09:27.040 00:09:37.309 Mustafa Raja: want to also categorize these combos or the signals. Let me know what metrics. Are we categorizing these combos or signals based on.

101 00:09:37.720 00:09:42.710 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I wanna categorize them based on like the

102 00:09:43.750 00:09:48.729 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know what the word is. But, for example, there’s some like revenue based signals. There’s some

103 00:09:48.870 00:10:04.679 Uttam Kumaran: employee growth based signals. There’s gonna be some product usage based signals. So again, maybe use AI to help you create like logical categorizations. And again, take the 1st stab, and we can review everything together. So don’t worry about getting it like.

104 00:10:04.880 00:10:06.290 Uttam Kumaran: completely. Right?

105 00:10:07.070 00:10:08.270 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah.

106 00:10:08.830 00:10:21.190 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, do I do. I have a fixed deadline for this? When when should this be ready? The at least the Google sheet. When should it be? Should it be ready for review.

107 00:10:21.460 00:10:25.389 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, ideally, like, end of day today would be great.

108 00:10:25.390 00:10:26.140 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

109 00:10:27.177 00:10:40.839 Uttam Kumaran: I know I I think I sent a message, but because we’re starting to work on interlude and default like feel free to just leave like we’ll we’ll start planning the AI team a little bit, slimmer, because we now have client work to do.

110 00:10:40.990 00:10:44.250 Uttam Kumaran: So I would say, don’t worry about any internal like.

111 00:10:44.500 00:10:47.439 Uttam Kumaran: As I mentioned everybody, the client work comes first, st so

112 00:10:47.992 00:10:51.930 Uttam Kumaran: feel free to drop anything or close out anything on the AI team.

113 00:10:52.349 00:11:03.839 Uttam Kumaran: I definitely wanna make sure that. Yeah, we could have something to present to him tomorrow. The again, the meeting is being booked ideally. Gonna be tomorrow, morning or tomorrow afternoon. So Eastern time. So.

114 00:11:04.730 00:11:05.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

115 00:11:05.830 00:11:11.969 Mustafa Raja: yeah, I’ll I’ll I’ll try my best to have have this sheet done by end of day, and.

116 00:11:11.970 00:11:19.730 Uttam Kumaran: As soon as you send me anything I I’ll review and leave comments, so don’t don’t aim for perfect. Just aim for something that I can give some feedback on.

117 00:11:19.730 00:11:20.270 Mustafa Raja: Okay. Okay.

118 00:11:22.240 00:11:28.080 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, so basically, the whole plan is, once we have these

119 00:11:28.310 00:11:47.519 Uttam Kumaran: signals ready, we will start to run some, you know, like account search campaigns, and then, once those once those result in accounts, we will start to populate them in salesforce reports, so their salespeople will be able to go into salesforce. See those list of accounts?

120 00:11:48.610 00:11:49.130 Uttam Kumaran: I know.

121 00:11:49.130 00:11:49.580 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

122 00:11:49.580 00:12:00.219 Uttam Kumaran: Target first.st I don’t know. I don’t know yet whether they already have a ton of already existing leads. But if they do, then we will take those out, and we will enrich those right

123 00:12:00.540 00:12:04.030 Uttam Kumaran: categorize. We have new leads that we’ll go get, and we have

124 00:12:04.150 00:12:06.450 Uttam Kumaran: sort of like an existing set of folks.

125 00:12:06.923 00:12:19.619 Uttam Kumaran: But we’ll find that a lot tomorrow, the like. The more we can show tomorrow, the more pressure it’s on him to get us all the access. And so this is our 1st sort of meeting after kicking off. So I wanna try to show as much as we can.

126 00:12:20.220 00:12:21.690 Mustafa Raja: Okay, yeah. Understood?

127 00:12:22.110 00:12:37.670 Uttam Kumaran: Cool and yeah, amber no problem on on there tomorrow. As long as I think it’s gonna be pretty medium, just technical stuff. So I I don’t necessarily think you know, you need to spend time, so give you give you back some time.

128 00:12:38.540 00:12:39.160 Amber Lin: Hmm.

129 00:12:39.530 00:12:54.220 Amber Lin: Okay, I’ll see if Henry responds, and if I can’t make it, probably I’ll put. I’ll just put it at whatever time. Then I’ll probably ask one of you guys to make a user meeting link.

130 00:12:54.770 00:13:01.850 Amber Lin: Actually, can you send maybe your meeting link because you will be there? In a channel, and I can use that instead.

131 00:13:03.245 00:13:07.560 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, I can send you my personal meeting. Link.

132 00:13:07.560 00:13:08.710 Amber Lin: Okay. Awesome.

133 00:13:10.470 00:13:12.400 Uttam Kumaran: We should honestly store those somewhere.

134 00:13:12.590 00:13:13.770 Amber Lin: Yeah, I agree.

135 00:13:14.260 00:13:18.020 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe I’ll I’ll send you mine. And then, yeah, we can send it to Rico.

136 00:13:18.210 00:13:19.090 Uttam Kumaran: The call.

137 00:13:23.611 00:13:26.199 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Okay. Anyone worried about anything.

138 00:13:27.839 00:13:28.369 Mustafa Raja: No.

139 00:13:29.334 00:13:30.144 Amber Lin: Not really.

140 00:13:31.570 00:13:38.390 Amber Lin: I think once we got the roadmap more stuff down, I’ll make tickets and add milestones to our current project.

141 00:13:38.390 00:13:39.000 Uttam Kumaran: Correct.

142 00:13:39.648 00:13:51.229 Amber Lin: Right now it’s just random things, and I add your ticket in the default project. You should be in there, and it should be also in clockify.

143 00:13:51.510 00:13:52.370 Amber Lin: So maybe.

144 00:13:52.370 00:13:53.940 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’m in clockify.

145 00:13:54.480 00:13:55.010 Amber Lin: Awesome.

146 00:13:56.640 00:14:03.049 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’d be that’d be great. I think I think that that ultimately Amber will be presenting to Caitlin.

147 00:14:03.370 00:14:03.910 Amber Lin: Huh!

148 00:14:03.910 00:14:29.390 Uttam Kumaran: I think, like Caitlin is probably like are gonna be our. I mean, Ryan is one of our stakeholders. But Caitlin is probably also I just wanted to make sure she’s involved. Victor is like he’s not too involved on this business side of things, but I kind of have that work Stream managed. I’m I’m not too worried about that. But yes, for this stuff, I think, as we have one or 2 more meetings, we can start to get like a little bit of a larger project plan, at least, going into the end of this contract.

149 00:14:29.390 00:14:30.070 Amber Lin: Go ahead!

150 00:14:30.420 00:14:31.090 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.

151 00:14:32.939 00:14:35.969 Amber Lin: Awesome, and then.

152 00:14:39.372 00:14:44.809 Uttam Kumaran: You could also even send a quick message based on this transcript, like what we’re planning on doing

153 00:14:45.280 00:14:50.139 Uttam Kumaran: this week and getting Ryan’s approval on that way. There’s there’s at least some noise in that channel.

154 00:14:50.140 00:14:51.889 Amber Lin: Yeah, sure, I can do that.

155 00:14:54.150 00:14:56.450 Amber Lin: Yeah, I’ll send that message.

156 00:15:04.560 00:15:06.630 Mustafa Raja: So when is interlude kicking off.

157 00:15:07.310 00:15:07.980 Uttam Kumaran: Today.

158 00:15:08.290 00:15:12.730 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I guess technically tomorrow. But they sent us all this stuff, and then.

159 00:15:12.730 00:15:13.989 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I saw that.

160 00:15:14.470 00:15:17.439 Uttam Kumaran: So I was also gonna write down some notes for you.

161 00:15:17.820 00:15:18.480 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

162 00:15:19.400 00:15:21.090 Uttam Kumaran: On what we want to do. There.

163 00:15:21.570 00:15:22.170 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

164 00:15:23.200 00:15:26.560 Uttam Kumaran: But you kind of got it for that one right? Like it’s kind of like we’re just trying to.

165 00:15:26.560 00:15:26.980 Mustafa Raja: It’s.

166 00:15:26.980 00:15:33.159 Uttam Kumaran: Basically do this like they’re trying to write this notion, template from meeting transcripts and notes and do it.

167 00:15:33.160 00:15:33.740 Mustafa Raja: If.

168 00:15:33.880 00:15:35.260 Uttam Kumaran: More automated way.

169 00:15:35.710 00:15:39.279 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I feel I feel they want what we what we do internally.

170 00:15:39.900 00:15:41.140 Uttam Kumaran: Pretty similar.

171 00:15:43.620 00:15:55.010 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I think that one I mean, I I honestly think you’ll be able to do 1015 h total. But I’m doing a lot of like writing today. So I’m gonna go. I’m going to the library, gonna write down.

172 00:15:55.010 00:15:55.800 Mustafa Raja: Oh, okay.

173 00:16:02.480 00:16:03.380 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

174 00:16:04.300 00:16:04.930 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

175 00:16:05.240 00:16:05.980 Amber Lin: All right.

176 00:16:06.080 00:16:06.920 Amber Lin: Do we need.

177 00:16:06.920 00:16:07.330 Uttam Kumaran: Guys.

178 00:16:07.330 00:16:09.499 Amber Lin: With Henry. On his part.

179 00:16:10.504 00:16:16.980 Uttam Kumaran: Once. Once Mustafa sets up his thing, I will tag we’ll we’ll tag Henry on what he needs to fill out there.

180 00:16:16.980 00:16:17.490 Amber Lin: Oh! Hi!

181 00:16:17.812 00:16:27.150 Uttam Kumaran: For Hen for Henry’s thing tomorrow. I mainly want him to basically just do a little bit of a walkthrough of what he found in amplitude. So far.

182 00:16:27.670 00:16:30.110 Amber Lin: And any questions he has.

183 00:16:32.370 00:16:35.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, basically, any any questions he has for Ryan on

184 00:16:36.170 00:16:39.750 Uttam Kumaran: on. I basically just give a brief like overview of like

185 00:16:39.970 00:16:42.470 Uttam Kumaran: how the product analytics setup is right. Now.

186 00:16:43.350 00:16:46.900 Amber Lin: Hmm, okay.

187 00:16:48.710 00:16:49.970 Uttam Kumaran: I mean he could either do

188 00:16:50.130 00:16:52.320 Uttam Kumaran: a quick slide or share a screen.

189 00:16:53.300 00:16:53.990 Amber Lin: Okay.

190 00:16:54.330 00:16:55.480 Amber Lin: Sounds good.

191 00:16:56.740 00:16:59.030 Uttam Kumaran: Free meetings are good. By the way, I’m like doing this.

192 00:16:59.030 00:17:04.280 Amber Lin: Yeah, I like it. Like, if we didn’t have the urban stamps on, we would be so unprepared tomorrow. It’d be so bad.

193 00:17:05.770 00:17:06.480 Amber Lin: Glad we did it.

194 00:17:07.880 00:17:08.730 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

195 00:17:09.230 00:17:13.680 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I wouldn’t know what to do with this Icp thing.

196 00:17:17.829 00:17:24.819 Amber Lin: You said we’re finalizing the roadmap. Can you give me a time? Estimate like a month from now, 2 weeks from now, a week from now.

197 00:17:24.819 00:17:28.059 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, roadmap will be done probably next week.

198 00:17:28.200 00:17:28.890 Amber Lin: Okay.

199 00:17:31.450 00:17:32.200 Amber Lin: Okay.

200 00:17:33.110 00:17:38.139 Uttam Kumaran: We should have a 1st version early next week, and then aim to like. Have it all settled.

201 00:17:38.140 00:17:38.480 Amber Lin: Okay.

202 00:17:38.480 00:17:42.529 Uttam Kumaran: Because we’re just. I just need to get salesforce access. And we need to, we need to basically.

203 00:17:48.700 00:17:50.719 Amber Lin: What sorry you’re you cut off.

204 00:17:50.940 00:17:51.700 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

205 00:17:53.090 00:17:53.790 Uttam Kumaran: Thing.

206 00:17:54.455 00:17:58.189 Uttam Kumaran: The transcripts should get you like 60%. There.

207 00:17:59.000 00:18:05.230 Amber Lin: Yeah, I I just typed out an update. I have the ticket from stuff. I typed out an update

208 00:18:05.340 00:18:13.600 Amber Lin: for caitlin. I think should be good. Okay, thanks. Everyone.

209 00:18:14.100 00:18:14.879 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, thank you.

210 00:18:15.450 00:18:17.519 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you. Guys talk to you soon.

211 00:18:18.270 00:18:19.700 Amber Lin: Alright, bye.