Meeting Title: Default Product Analytics Planning Sync Date: 2025-07-21 Meeting participants: Mustafa Raja, Uttam Kumaran, Henry Zhao, Amber Lin


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1 00:04:58.350 00:04:59.959 Amber Lin: Hello! Everyone.

2 00:05:03.710 00:05:04.570 Uttam Kumaran: Hello!

3 00:05:06.900 00:05:07.540 Mustafa Raja: Hey!

4 00:05:09.940 00:05:12.890 Amber Lin: Well, we booked this internal meeting to

5 00:05:13.429 00:05:29.079 Amber Lin: let’s talk about our approach for default. I don’t think I can input much on that I can help you take notes. I can convert this meeting into a project plan, but I think we’ll just leave this. I guess uten I’ll leave it to you, to lead.

6 00:05:29.990 00:05:39.190 Uttam Kumaran: Well, can you? Can you, for Henry and Mustafa? Can you share, like the project? Plan to date and the links, please? And and I’m happy to talk technical, but I

7 00:05:39.490 00:05:44.140 Uttam Kumaran: I think there’s still quite a bit of project management that you can lead. I don’t. I don’t think I need to lead the whole thing.

8 00:05:45.730 00:05:46.545 Amber Lin: Okay,

9 00:05:47.560 00:05:49.319 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, unless you feel differently. But

10 00:05:49.430 00:05:52.069 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I don’t. I don’t see why it’s

11 00:05:52.240 00:05:54.120 Uttam Kumaran: it’s not like completely on me.

12 00:05:54.980 00:05:57.890 Amber Lin: Okay, I mean, does everybody know

13 00:05:58.864 00:06:04.209 Amber Lin: give me a sec? Has everybody had a chance to look at the document we shared?

14 00:06:05.020 00:06:08.229 Amber Lin: If not. I’ll share it now, and we can go over it together.

15 00:06:09.040 00:06:13.370 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, ideally, we can just go through like who the people are like, what the do work streams are.

16 00:06:17.830 00:06:19.100 Uttam Kumaran: You can’t put it on me.

17 00:06:21.630 00:06:26.670 Amber Lin: Alright, so let me copy 2 links.

18 00:06:27.390 00:06:31.739 Amber Lin: So there’s this one and then there.

19 00:06:40.410 00:06:47.150 Amber Lin: So this is. I sent it in our zoom chat. So that’s the project management plan, and then

20 00:06:47.390 00:06:52.519 Amber Lin: I’ll also share a link of the Icps they want to look at.

21 00:06:54.450 00:06:58.819 Amber Lin: So let me share screen. I can give a brief overview

22 00:06:59.380 00:07:01.890 Amber Lin: of what we want to do.

23 00:07:02.800 00:07:10.909 Amber Lin: And then I think you guys can discuss how we want to approach this so overall.

24 00:07:11.610 00:07:32.269 Amber Lin: So for this project, our our clients default. We have 2 projects for them. One is consulting. One is for product analytics. This team will look at product analytics. The new term will take over for the consulting one. So I’ll only cover this this one today. So I’ll change the name here.

25 00:07:34.290 00:07:47.920 Amber Lin: So essentially, a quick overview of what they want to do is that here? So they have

26 00:07:48.030 00:07:56.210 Amber Lin: a list of icps or characteristics they want us to look at. So we we are going to be in charge of

27 00:07:56.350 00:08:00.400 Amber Lin: figuring out what Icps we want. We want to look at.

28 00:08:00.650 00:08:26.440 Amber Lin: How are we gonna get it? And then eventually our deliverable is to put it into salesforce for their salespeople to use, and then we’ll we will take care of what tools you want to use to process and enrich the data, and we’ll also look at what metrics are best for reporting. So there’s a lot of flexibility that’s up to us to define how we want to do it.

29 00:08:28.990 00:08:37.450 Amber Lin: And then my thoughts stakeholder is going to be Ryan, which we have a weekly meeting on Wednesday with.

30 00:08:39.760 00:08:41.589 Amber Lin: So that’s a brief overview.

31 00:08:42.799 00:08:48.699 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So Mustafa and Henry, do you guys take a look at this at all, or

32 00:08:50.570 00:08:53.869 Henry Zhao: Yeah. So I took a look. I don’t have any questions on it.

33 00:08:55.100 00:08:57.754 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. So basically, we’re working for their head of

34 00:08:58.160 00:09:00.699 Uttam Kumaran: like Rev. Ops, head of sales, Ryan.

35 00:09:01.351 00:09:08.259 Uttam Kumaran: They use salesforce. They have amplitude set up and basically, he just wants our help.

36 00:09:08.708 00:09:37.289 Uttam Kumaran: He has several signals that he wants to track, and several signals that they have access to several that we will be developing and basically has a list of those. So one, I think one core outcome is we basically need to start to build like some sort of plan around, like, what are the initial segments that we’re going after? Again, these signals can be everything from product usage. So signals. I sort of categorize them into signals that they own versus signals.

37 00:09:37.800 00:09:52.090 Uttam Kumaran: Outside of the platform, right? So it’s like product usage and things like that their own. Crm, there’s also things like, Okay, we want to look at like their stack, which is like competitive intelligence. Okay, what are what are? Is there a list of competitors? Is there a list of

38 00:09:52.110 00:10:18.519 Uttam Kumaran: companies that are using their competitors that we can target we also want to go into the market and target. So we’re looking at customers that have a growing sales force that are in their Icp, so we’ll be building some of these, I probably in clay. And so that’s why Masafa, you’re here. So the initial goal is to sort of think about what is the what are the initial set of segments that we want to build towards but ideally, we should have the ability to build.

39 00:10:18.650 00:10:29.048 Uttam Kumaran: We’re we’re our goal is to build an availability of these signals because you can build any segment you want. Once we have the signals, right? So

40 00:10:29.600 00:10:33.500 Uttam Kumaran: our 1st goal is, I think, to really nail down product usage

41 00:10:33.943 00:10:48.709 Uttam Kumaran: and then to also just make sure we have access to everything in salesforce. And then also gets get acquainted with with amplitude. We’ll be working again directly with Ryan in slack. But our team is sort of gonna drive.

42 00:10:49.161 00:11:06.218 Uttam Kumaran: We’ll we’ll end up doing some strategy work on what type of segments we want to go after and sort of propose, hey? I think, given like everything we have, we should target these and the end sort of deliverable. Here is a view in salesforce so ideally we should have salesforce

43 00:11:07.110 00:11:13.219 Uttam Kumaran: salesforce companies that are tagged with various signals so that the team can then

44 00:11:13.560 00:11:22.549 Uttam Kumaran: filter them and and sort of the goal from from Ryan’s angle is like he’s like. I want my salespeople to wake up and go into salesforce and see the highest.

45 00:11:23.050 00:11:26.850 Uttam Kumaran: the leads, with the highest likelihood of converting, based on the signals.

46 00:11:27.820 00:11:29.320 Henry Zhao: Got it? Does that make sense?

47 00:11:29.320 00:11:30.270 Henry Zhao: Yep, definitely.

48 00:11:30.780 00:11:31.510 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.

49 00:11:31.883 00:11:48.640 Uttam Kumaran: So I think, Henry, I’ll be leaning a little bit on you on like amplitude. I think we’ll we’ll both kind of figure out the product together, and like making sure everything is set up and events are firing. I think that’s 1 core goal. They have, like very limited product analytics reporting, if at all

50 00:11:48.640 00:12:04.260 Uttam Kumaran: like they’re not looking at product usage. So I think there’s a world of opportunity there again, this is looking at existing product usage. So these aren’t like new clients. These are clients that they want to upgrade into higher tier roles. Additionally, they have several signals around.

51 00:12:04.430 00:12:18.259 Uttam Kumaran: I want to look at clients that are using another competitor and have, like more than 20 salespeople. Right? So, Mustafa, that will be like a their stack plus Linkedin appify type of

52 00:12:18.370 00:12:28.478 Uttam Kumaran: clay enrichment. So I think 1 1 outcome this week is we can work. We can all work together on like, what are the 1st set of deliverables.

53 00:12:29.010 00:12:34.629 Uttam Kumaran: And I would say that Icp sheet that Ryan sent is a good thing to look at. We’re not going to build all of those. But

54 00:12:34.740 00:12:37.729 Uttam Kumaran: you’ll you’ll start to see some trends across those

55 00:12:39.740 00:12:44.558 Uttam Kumaran: so that’s really it on the on, like the product analytics side,

56 00:12:45.210 00:12:58.039 Uttam Kumaran: and sort of the sales segment work. So again, we’re gonna be meeting with him once a once a week, I guess. Amber we. I don’t think we set guidelines on like hours for everybody. But do we have a sense.

57 00:12:58.040 00:12:58.410 Amber Lin: Hmm.

58 00:12:58.410 00:13:07.350 Uttam Kumaran: Of that, or like what I mean in terms of if I can give you context on the, on the contract, it’s a little. It’s pretty open, ended but.

59 00:13:07.840 00:13:12.060 Uttam Kumaran: Again. I’m always nervous on open ended hourly contracts because

60 00:13:12.320 00:13:21.649 Uttam Kumaran: clients get like surprised. So I want to plan out the work and then kind of give them an estimate of how long things are. Gonna take

61 00:13:22.206 00:13:24.209 Uttam Kumaran: we don’t have to do this like

62 00:13:24.880 00:13:42.330 Uttam Kumaran: every day or every time we take something new on. But I want to avoid sort of what happens on what happened on matter more. And what happened in pool parts where they they end up just like asking me like, why do we spend this much time on stuff at the end? So I think we have an opportunity to to just change the narrative a little bit. So on this one.

63 00:13:43.180 00:13:51.360 Uttam Kumaran: When we take on the when we, before we plan the work, let’s send a little bit of an estimate. Hey? These are, how many hours you’re gonna take? Caitlin is is ultimately, I think.

64 00:13:51.580 00:13:59.660 Uttam Kumaran: kind of the person that gives me the okay. So on, like a at least a bi-weekly basis. Kind of want to be like, hey? This is how many hours we spent.

65 00:13:59.660 00:14:00.140 Amber Lin: Okay.

66 00:14:00.140 00:14:02.122 Uttam Kumaran: We should be totally fine at that point.

67 00:14:02.370 00:14:29.629 Amber Lin: Yeah, if we run sprints. Whether it’s 1 week or 2 weeks sprints. Whenever we do planning, we’ll we’ll have the estimates, and then we’ll just make sure that this we send the SMS of Ours to them, and then, whenever we close the sprint, we’ll also send out how many hours we did. Perfect. Just, I’ll just need to, I guess, for the team, I’ll just to. I’ll just need you guys to log the hours for me to be able to do that, that’s all. I all. It takes

68 00:14:29.860 00:14:30.415 Amber Lin: so

69 00:14:30.970 00:14:31.590 Mustafa Raja: Yep.

70 00:14:31.750 00:14:32.380 Amber Lin: Thanks.

71 00:14:32.950 00:14:38.060 Mustafa Raja: Yep, for that. I’ll have to be in the default team.

72 00:14:38.480 00:14:57.929 Amber Lin: Yeah, let me add, you let me add, you guys, to that? Can we, since we still have some time? Can we help define the 1st few tickets and roughly give an estimate to that, so I can help track it, because right now I don’t really know how to track progress for this team.

73 00:14:59.060 00:15:02.596 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, we we just started. So don’t worry.

74 00:15:02.950 00:15:03.569 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay.

75 00:15:03.570 00:15:06.974 Uttam Kumaran: The 1st day, so don’t don’t get stressed.

76 00:15:07.650 00:15:13.550 Uttam Kumaran: I think my my feedback would be one. We need to just create an initial roadmap for

77 00:15:15.090 00:15:26.390 Uttam Kumaran: Customer segmentation. So this, this will look more like a a plan document. I think the output is a plan document where we outline. What are the initial signals we want to track?

78 00:15:26.830 00:15:29.659 Uttam Kumaran: And then who’s assigned to track them, and where we’re going to do them?

79 00:15:30.170 00:15:34.940 Uttam Kumaran: So I think this can be a pretty simple notion, document, that we can work on.

80 00:15:37.520 00:15:38.370 Amber Lin: Okay.

81 00:15:38.880 00:15:47.419 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, Henry, if you’ve done one of these before, I know we have a plan. We do so I know Robert has done a planning or tracking document before.

82 00:15:47.660 00:15:54.689 Uttam Kumaran: We don’t have like a template, but mainly I just want us to define. What are all the signals? Where are they coming from?

83 00:15:55.380 00:16:00.950 Uttam Kumaran: And then, like, what are the couple of segment reports that we’re gonna drive towards in the beginning?

84 00:16:04.310 00:16:18.340 Uttam Kumaran: because we’re gonna end up using product analytics a hundred different ways. So I just want to track. Okay, we’re gonna we want to start by looking at just like users logged in or X amount of people using a specific feature.

85 00:16:18.739 00:16:22.870 Uttam Kumaran: Cause. That’s all feedback we can get from from Ryan. Once we put it in front of him.

86 00:16:25.080 00:16:25.760 Henry Zhao: Okay.

87 00:16:27.300 00:16:33.750 Uttam Kumaran: Have you? Have you done like a is there? Is there like a template for this? Have you done before, or we can work on one together. As part of this.

88 00:16:33.750 00:16:35.810 Henry Zhao: Yeah, we’ll. We’ll just. We’ll just make one together. Yeah.

89 00:16:35.810 00:16:45.951 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so so amber. Let’s do that. I think part of this for each of us. I think we’ll have a ticket associated to this tracking, Doc, I think for

90 00:16:47.900 00:17:00.729 Uttam Kumaran: For Henry. You can kind of assign him. He’ll be working on sort of what is in amplitude already, and like, what should our plan be like, what are the core things we need to source from amplitude as it comes, as it relates to product analytics.

91 00:17:01.250 00:17:03.449 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, Mustafa will be in charge of.

92 00:17:03.590 00:17:08.110 Uttam Kumaran: If there’s any workbooks that we need to build in clay.

93 00:17:08.420 00:17:10.610 Uttam Kumaran: and then you can kind of put me as like.

94 00:17:10.619 00:17:11.339 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

95 00:17:11.339 00:17:27.849 Uttam Kumaran: Overall structure document like, I’ll I’ll basically make sure everything’s structured well and presentable, so we can present it to Ryan ideally. Get his comments before our next meeting. I know that’s I think that’s on Wednesday. So maybe we’ll just review what we have by Wednesday with him.

96 00:17:28.720 00:17:29.040 Amber Lin: Okay.

97 00:17:29.040 00:17:30.599 Uttam Kumaran: And then we can get his comments.

98 00:17:31.080 00:17:32.930 Amber Lin: Okay, so, roadmap.

99 00:17:33.260 00:17:37.629 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so that so this document, I think, will evolve into like the roadmap.

100 00:17:39.640 00:17:42.149 Uttam Kumaran: Ye-, yeah, this document will basically evolve into that.

101 00:17:42.150 00:17:47.049 Amber Lin: Okay, you were right on Wednesday.

102 00:17:47.610 00:17:51.009 Amber Lin: Okay? Sounds good review with Ryan.

103 00:17:53.500 00:17:59.160 Amber Lin: It probably needs a quick pre meeting. Probably you tomorrow. Just take it with you.

104 00:17:59.160 00:17:59.740 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.

105 00:18:01.380 00:18:04.980 Amber Lin: Do we want everybody? In the Wednesday meeting.

106 00:18:07.110 00:18:08.969 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe it’s maybe.

107 00:18:08.970 00:18:10.780 Amber Lin: Right now, just you and I.

108 00:18:11.270 00:18:14.809 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe it’s helpful just to introduce everybody.

109 00:18:15.210 00:18:23.389 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I feel like we’ll we’ll see each week like how everybody feels.

110 00:18:24.310 00:18:25.190 Amber Lin: Okay, so.

111 00:18:25.190 00:18:30.159 Uttam Kumaran: I feel like I feel like Henry. I feel like Mustafa. You may not need to be there, probably, Henry, as we.

112 00:18:30.430 00:18:33.359 Uttam Kumaran: I would like you to be there probably longer term.

113 00:18:33.550 00:18:41.412 Uttam Kumaran: Just because I think he’s gonna have. There’s gonna be more questions about the product analytics than than anything. They just don’t have anything.

114 00:18:43.240 00:18:52.140 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, that’s fine. And then, yeah, I’m I’m totally game, for. However, you want to run this amber, I think this is gonna be a little bit lighter than our typical clients, just because.

115 00:18:52.140 00:18:52.660 Amber Lin: And.

116 00:18:54.640 00:19:01.727 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. I just feel like it’s it’s just working for one person. But I’m down to do all the typical rituals. But I just I

117 00:19:02.460 00:19:03.920 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I don’t think it’s gonna be.

118 00:19:03.920 00:19:04.530 Amber Lin: Yeah.

119 00:19:04.530 00:19:05.780 Uttam Kumaran: So so happy.

120 00:19:06.150 00:19:06.880 Amber Lin: Okay.

121 00:19:07.220 00:19:08.090 Amber Lin: Yeah.

122 00:19:08.090 00:19:11.779 Uttam Kumaran: Stand ups and stuff like you may be able to do a lot of Async. I don’t know.

123 00:19:12.000 00:19:19.729 Amber Lin: Okay, are we running weekly planning, or to to bi-weekly planning.

124 00:19:20.340 00:19:21.040 Uttam Kumaran: What’s right?

125 00:19:21.460 00:19:26.239 Amber Lin: Does our requirement change a lot, or is it more of a step by step.

126 00:19:26.590 00:19:30.270 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’ll be step by step, like I think we could probably end up doing 2 weeks.

127 00:19:30.750 00:19:31.470 Amber Lin: Okay.

128 00:19:31.750 00:19:34.259 Uttam Kumaran: I think this week is a little bit weird, just because we’re like.

129 00:19:34.820 00:19:38.550 Uttam Kumaran: but like, by the time grooming comes next week, we should be set.

130 00:19:39.334 00:19:48.850 Uttam Kumaran: So like this sprint, we can probably take a little bit as like 50% or 60% ad hoc, get these, get this planning thing done, and then I think 2 weeks should be fine.

131 00:19:49.880 00:19:54.400 Amber Lin: Okay, so we definitely need grooming

132 00:19:55.100 00:20:11.369 Amber Lin: retro. We can do internal. We can do it like 50. It can even just be 15 min it can be really fast. Just so that we know what we can improve on and then, in terms of stand ups, think we could do like.

133 00:20:12.340 00:20:13.440 Amber Lin: maybe, like

134 00:20:14.950 00:20:27.570 Amber Lin: Async or 2 stand ups or 2 to 3 stand ups each week. The rest we can do. Async. I just wanna see to start out with something. We can always take it back or scale it up. I just feel like

135 00:20:27.960 00:20:37.220 Amber Lin: if we have a long time without stand ups. Stuff that’s blocked don’t get communicated where we don’t know what’s going on, so I do want some sort of stand up.

136 00:20:37.510 00:20:38.320 Uttam Kumaran: I’m with you.

137 00:20:38.650 00:20:43.469 Amber Lin: Okay. So we already have a weekly internal weekly Sync.

138 00:20:45.710 00:20:47.140 Amber Lin: I think I’ll just

139 00:20:48.420 00:20:59.210 Amber Lin: let’s see. Okay, I’ll I’ll look at your schedules. We’ll probably have 2 to 3 stand ups. Do we want a planning meeting each, and like every sprint.

140 00:21:00.706 00:21:02.990 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, ideally, we can just have a

141 00:21:03.450 00:21:10.939 Uttam Kumaran: 30 min planning meeting on the schedule. And then worst case like, it’s rooming. We can also do planning, then we can consolidate. But.

142 00:21:11.360 00:21:11.990 Amber Lin: Hmm.

143 00:21:12.650 00:21:20.079 Amber Lin: okay, so we’ll start off with probably a little bit excess of rituals, and we’ll cut it down as we run through like a sprint or 2, so

144 00:21:20.200 00:21:21.899 Amber Lin: it will become better.

145 00:21:22.560 00:21:23.210 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

146 00:21:23.210 00:21:24.550 Amber Lin: Okay, so right now.

147 00:21:24.550 00:21:32.170 Uttam Kumaran: And then, as part of the strategy as part of the strategy work that I’m doing, I will just log my time and my tickets.

148 00:21:32.538 00:21:35.639 Uttam Kumaran: I, my goal for the strategy work, by the way, is for

149 00:21:35.790 00:21:39.439 Uttam Kumaran: for what I find to to build into new work streams.

150 00:21:39.570 00:21:42.190 Uttam Kumaran: So as I find things out I will

151 00:21:42.400 00:21:45.000 Uttam Kumaran: propose them, and we can scope them out.

152 00:21:45.620 00:21:54.990 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good. So I will add these to alright.

153 00:21:59.290 00:22:05.470 Amber Lin: okay, sounds good. When do we want these roadmap tickets? By? So by Wednesday.

154 00:22:06.390 00:22:08.929 Uttam Kumaran: I would. Yeah, I think maybe if we can all

155 00:22:09.100 00:22:12.879 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I would like to finish everything, probably by the end of the week.

156 00:22:13.740 00:22:20.009 Uttam Kumaran: and then like, so that way. But then, by Wednesday, I think I want to have something we can at least present and get feedback on.

157 00:22:21.590 00:22:22.090 Amber Lin: Okay.

158 00:22:22.719 00:22:23.350 Uttam Kumaran: So.

159 00:22:25.570 00:22:30.790 Amber Lin: So probably I’ll make a standard. We can check in tomorrow.

160 00:22:32.140 00:22:41.450 Amber Lin: and then I think I’ll just put a pre meeting here between you and I.

161 00:22:41.910 00:22:42.240 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

162 00:22:44.375 00:22:45.370 Amber Lin: Tree.

163 00:22:46.750 00:22:50.890 Amber Lin: Okay, let’s hope you have time.

164 00:22:51.616 00:22:52.090 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, wow!

165 00:22:52.090 00:22:53.160 Amber Lin: Okay. Okay.

166 00:22:53.160 00:22:54.336 Uttam Kumaran: Everything’s okay. Right now.

167 00:22:54.630 00:22:59.198 Amber Lin: Yeah, I I think so. My calendar is just getting crazier and crazier.

168 00:22:59.550 00:23:00.880 Uttam Kumaran: Get crazy. Yeah.

169 00:23:00.880 00:23:05.609 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay, I will put this.

170 00:23:07.090 00:23:10.359 Uttam Kumaran: But I really don’t think this will be as much. Pm.

171 00:23:10.480 00:23:14.930 Uttam Kumaran: Like, if if myself and Henry can get ramped up, I think.

172 00:23:15.490 00:23:21.980 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think we’ll be okay. It’s not nearly as it’s not nearly like an Eden type project. There’s only a couple of people involved.

173 00:23:22.240 00:23:24.590 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah. Sounds good.

174 00:23:24.870 00:23:31.059 Amber Lin: I will set up the meeting links and then probably tomorrow, we’ll check in Async.

175 00:23:33.230 00:23:36.560 Amber Lin: Okay, that sounds good.

176 00:23:37.010 00:23:37.710 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

177 00:23:39.230 00:23:40.630 Henry Zhao: Alright. Sounds good to meet you soon.

178 00:23:40.930 00:23:41.390 Amber Lin: All right.

179 00:23:41.390 00:23:44.140 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, any question, any question, guys, yeah, anything.

180 00:23:45.090 00:23:46.909 Henry Zhao: Is, is default. A new client.

181 00:23:47.460 00:23:48.929 Uttam Kumaran: Default is a new client. Yes.

182 00:23:48.930 00:23:49.770 Henry Zhao: Okay, Gotcha.

183 00:23:50.570 00:23:55.249 Henry Zhao: Okay, that’s it, that’s all I had. I’ll I’ll ask you questions, Async. If I have any.

184 00:23:55.250 00:23:56.350 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Cool.

185 00:23:56.350 00:23:57.850 Henry Zhao: Okay. Alright. Thanks. Guys.

186 00:23:58.290 00:24:00.390 Amber Lin: Alright! Thanks everyone.

187 00:24:00.620 00:24:01.600 Amber Lin: Bye.

188 00:24:01.600 00:24:03.249 Mustafa Raja: Thank you. Bye.