Meeting Title: Brainforge x CTA Project Sync Date: 2025-10-06 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Hannah Wang


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1 00:00:09.660 00:00:10.370 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

2 00:00:10.840 00:00:14.645 Hannah Wang: Okay, let me share my… Screen.

3 00:00:17.090 00:00:19.799 Hannah Wang: Figma… okay.

4 00:00:23.350 00:00:29.090 Hannah Wang: Yeah, let me just quickly change the SOW.

5 00:00:30.970 00:00:32.750 Hannah Wang: Okay.

6 00:00:32.759 00:00:36.959 Uttam Kumaran: So there were some text updates, and then there were some…

7 00:00:38.599 00:00:40.929 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so this one would just be adding this.

8 00:00:41.400 00:00:42.230 Hannah Wang: Okay.

9 00:00:45.470 00:00:49.699 Hannah Wang: Alright, let me try to do formatting at the same time.

10 00:00:51.530 00:00:53.960 Hannah Wang: This one is…

11 00:01:04.470 00:01:09.680 Hannah Wang: Is this just, like, a… Do I modify something?

12 00:01:16.820 00:01:24.380 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yes, it’s just replacing this one with… or wait.

13 00:01:25.090 00:01:26.359 Uttam Kumaran: Which comment is this?

14 00:01:26.360 00:01:27.889 Hannah Wang: Sorry, it’s this one, right here.

15 00:01:27.890 00:01:28.770 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, sorry.

16 00:01:29.070 00:01:38.720 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I just wanted to put that in, like… And… Well…

17 00:01:40.510 00:01:43.180 Uttam Kumaran: I guess this technically is an assumption.

18 00:01:43.180 00:01:44.850 Hannah Wang: So let’s just put this in dirt.

19 00:01:45.670 00:01:47.350 Uttam Kumaran: under assumptions.

20 00:01:47.350 00:01:48.150 Hannah Wang: Okay.

21 00:01:48.530 00:01:50.249 Uttam Kumaran: Instead of the first one, yeah.

22 00:01:50.250 00:01:50.990 Hannah Wang: Okay.

23 00:01:53.540 00:01:58.760 Hannah Wang: Okay, so this is done, this is… Done.

24 00:01:58.940 00:02:01.250 Hannah Wang: And ignore this one, then?

25 00:02:07.090 00:02:07.909 Hannah Wang: Like, I replaced…

26 00:02:07.910 00:02:09.989 Uttam Kumaran: We can put this as a second one.

27 00:02:09.990 00:02:10.820 Hannah Wang: Okay.

28 00:02:11.910 00:02:15.510 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and then you remove ad from the first bullet.

29 00:02:15.970 00:02:16.570 Hannah Wang: Yep.

30 00:02:16.730 00:02:18.490 Uttam Kumaran: Perfect. Okay.

31 00:02:18.490 00:02:29.280 Hannah Wang: Okay, I’ll play with formatting after, I’ll just go through it. Replace… Sea ice identity revolution.

32 00:02:29.960 00:02:38.799 Hannah Wang: Okay… This… Okay, add… But he registered.

33 00:02:55.320 00:02:59.820 Uttam Kumaran: Oh my god, if we get 3 more clients, we’re gonna be so slammed, but we will be…

34 00:03:00.230 00:03:02.809 Uttam Kumaran: Finally, like, making some money.

35 00:03:02.810 00:03:03.340 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

36 00:03:03.340 00:03:07.090 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just so… I’m just, like… so hard for me to, like…

37 00:03:08.090 00:03:12.399 Uttam Kumaran: Distance from, like, how much it’s gonna take for us to deliver, but, like, we are…

38 00:03:13.040 00:03:17.679 Uttam Kumaran: Like, a lot, like, so much of the sales we’re doing has been working out, so really, really happy.

39 00:03:17.680 00:03:18.460 Hannah Wang: Awesome.

40 00:03:19.990 00:03:26.500 Hannah Wang: Sorry, the, the let’s remove… I don’t know for…

41 00:03:33.480 00:03:37.590 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, it may have been for open questions.

42 00:03:37.990 00:03:38.810 Hannah Wang: Oh, great.

43 00:03:39.340 00:03:39.930 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

44 00:03:42.800 00:03:49.089 Hannah Wang: Let me… yeah, I’ll figure that out later. Okay, remove this… this whole thing.

45 00:03:49.550 00:03:50.470 Hannah Wang: Okay.

46 00:03:51.380 00:03:56.129 Hannah Wang: Assistant, so this needs to be for…

47 00:03:57.390 00:04:12.100 Hannah Wang: Let’s move under… okay. Move all of this here… Ugh, okay.

48 00:04:13.620 00:04:14.980 Hannah Wang: Remove.

49 00:04:15.360 00:04:16.540 Hannah Wang: You know what?

50 00:04:24.450 00:04:25.590 Hannah Wang: Done.

51 00:04:59.290 00:05:03.050 Hannah Wang: So remove the pre-kickoff thing?

52 00:05:05.700 00:05:06.770 Hannah Wang: I think.

53 00:05:06.880 00:05:08.470 Hannah Wang: Is this the comment?

54 00:05:09.160 00:05:13.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.

55 00:05:13.430 00:05:16.229 Hannah Wang: Okay, just the top part. Oh, okay.

56 00:05:16.230 00:05:22.039 Uttam Kumaran: But Shake, can we,

57 00:05:22.610 00:05:27.210 Uttam Kumaran: Can we just remove the first line in the pre-kickoff? Sorry, we should keep this.

58 00:05:27.510 00:05:28.490 Hannah Wang: AWS.

59 00:05:28.730 00:05:29.510 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

60 00:05:29.700 00:05:30.460 Hannah Wang: Okay.

61 00:05:31.890 00:05:38.800 Hannah Wang: Oh, actually, wait, let me… Wait, this is kind of hard because everything keeps moving, but.

62 00:05:38.800 00:05:43.169 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, basically, I think we should be able to consolidate, like, a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

63 00:05:43.170 00:05:47.300 Hannah Wang: So, identity res, replace that with this, right?

64 00:05:47.910 00:05:51.489 Hannah Wang: person mastering Xia’s company.

65 00:05:56.080 00:05:58.250 Uttam Kumaran: What did I put in the first comment?

66 00:05:58.550 00:06:01.090 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so replace this with the… with that.

67 00:06:01.560 00:06:02.170 Hannah Wang: Okay.

68 00:06:02.170 00:06:07.120 Uttam Kumaran: And then you could put month 1 to the left, or put month 2 to the left.

69 00:06:07.570 00:06:08.490 Hannah Wang: Huh.

70 00:06:08.810 00:06:13.320 Uttam Kumaran: And then… What did I put in the second comment?

71 00:06:14.930 00:06:17.700 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, yeah, so this is month 2…

72 00:06:18.450 00:06:22.340 Uttam Kumaran: And then… so both of these are gonna be month… Month.

73 00:06:22.490 00:06:24.079 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, 1 and 2.

74 00:06:25.010 00:06:30.359 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah. So you can leave that as month one. The second item, you can do month one to two.

75 00:06:32.060 00:06:33.260 Hannah Wang: Oh…

76 00:06:34.160 00:06:35.620 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, that one.

77 00:06:36.190 00:06:37.570 Hannah Wang: Okay.

78 00:06:39.280 00:06:40.240 Hannah Wang: Okay.

79 00:06:40.690 00:06:43.409 Hannah Wang: And then… do I replace it?

80 00:06:44.090 00:06:45.100 Hannah Wang: Like that.

81 00:06:45.580 00:06:56.110 Uttam Kumaran: Wait, what did I… did I put… oh… Yeah… Stunning…

82 00:07:02.110 00:07:04.909 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s fine.

83 00:07:06.210 00:07:09.620 Hannah Wang: And then… You want a month to the left?

84 00:07:09.620 00:07:10.450 Uttam Kumaran: 3.

85 00:07:10.780 00:07:11.930 Hannah Wang: 1-3, okay.

86 00:07:17.980 00:07:20.070 Hannah Wang: Okay…

87 00:07:21.800 00:07:26.910 Uttam Kumaran: And then can you just put here, can you just put, like, data plan for 2026?

88 00:07:28.010 00:07:30.319 Uttam Kumaran: That is gonna fit? Okay, that’s on…

89 00:07:30.620 00:07:33.359 Hannah Wang: It’s okay. Make it bigger. Oh.

90 00:07:33.640 00:07:36.380 Hannah Wang: And then I’ll delete that.

91 00:07:37.500 00:07:43.460 Hannah Wang: Okay, and then I moved everything from engagement here…

92 00:07:44.120 00:07:58.050 Hannah Wang: And then… this will be 6… 7… Okay, and then… add subtile…

93 00:08:12.740 00:08:13.780 Hannah Wang: Bye.

94 00:11:36.520 00:11:38.590 Uttam Kumaran: I ran through an entire,

95 00:11:39.120 00:11:43.990 Uttam Kumaran: demo of our AI capabilities stack end-to-end the other day.

96 00:11:44.250 00:11:45.410 Uttam Kumaran: It was good.

97 00:11:45.410 00:11:46.480 Hannah Wang: With who?

98 00:11:46.480 00:11:52.920 Uttam Kumaran: With Michael Maloney, he’s a… you may have seen his name here and there, he’s just a friend of mine here in town,

99 00:11:53.680 00:11:57.689 Uttam Kumaran: But he’s thinking of pitching us to his… Some of his companies, and…

100 00:11:58.130 00:12:01.369 Uttam Kumaran: It was good. I need to go back, and I had a couple of…

101 00:12:02.290 00:12:05.329 Uttam Kumaran: comments, but overall, it was, like, I think very, very helpful.

102 00:12:05.670 00:12:06.730 Hannah Wang: Okay, sweet.

103 00:12:06.730 00:12:07.370 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

104 00:12:07.690 00:12:11.310 Uttam Kumaran: It’s the first time I’ve, like, done… I, like, literally was like, okay, I’m just gonna strictly, like.

105 00:12:12.340 00:12:13.640 Uttam Kumaran: Go end-to-end.

106 00:12:15.210 00:12:17.099 Hannah Wang: It’s a long deck.

107 00:12:17.100 00:12:21.140 Uttam Kumaran: I know, that’s why I was… but I never, like… I always, like, pop in and out, you know, or kind.

108 00:12:21.140 00:12:21.800 Hannah Wang: Right.

109 00:12:21.800 00:12:25.500 Uttam Kumaran: pick what’s worth it, so I was like, let’s go end-to-end and…

110 00:12:28.500 00:12:31.369 Hannah Wang: Is Michael, like, a… does he own…

111 00:12:31.560 00:12:32.700 Uttam Kumaran: He’s a VC here.

112 00:12:32.700 00:12:34.089 Hannah Wang: locally, yeah.

113 00:12:34.090 00:12:39.479 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, he’s a VC, and is, like, kind of interested in pitching us.

114 00:12:40.230 00:12:46.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so… But I also send him a lot of our stuff just to get his feedback, so…

115 00:12:46.070 00:12:46.480 Hannah Wang: Right.

116 00:12:46.480 00:12:48.879 Uttam Kumaran: As usual, just another friend of the company.

117 00:12:49.110 00:12:50.699 Hannah Wang: You have so many friends.

118 00:12:51.250 00:12:52.430 Hannah Wang: Boise.

119 00:12:54.740 00:12:58.310 Uttam Kumaran: I feel like I’m losing a lot of friends after I started this business.

120 00:12:58.310 00:13:00.579 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah, I mean, I feel.

121 00:13:00.580 00:13:03.159 Uttam Kumaran: Where a lot of my friends are now, like.

122 00:13:03.980 00:13:09.189 Uttam Kumaran: most of the people I keep up with are the ones that also are, like, somewhat biz-related.

123 00:13:09.190 00:13:10.360 Hannah Wang: Yeah, totally.

124 00:13:13.390 00:13:14.629 Hannah Wang: It’s hard, it’s…

125 00:13:14.630 00:13:19.240 Uttam Kumaran: It’s so hard, because I’m also, like, the person who keeps a group chat, like, alive.

126 00:13:19.240 00:13:19.860 Hannah Wang: Mmm.

127 00:13:19.860 00:13:20.730 Uttam Kumaran: and…

128 00:13:21.570 00:13:26.680 Uttam Kumaran: because I don’t, like, I’m not keeping many of those alive now, like, some of them are falling apart.

129 00:13:26.680 00:13:28.299 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I feel you.

130 00:13:29.120 00:13:37.030 Hannah Wang: And Robert also says, like, it’s hard being, like, a business owner and maintaining friends and stuff.

131 00:13:37.410 00:13:39.099 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s also just, like.

132 00:13:39.100 00:13:40.350 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

133 00:13:40.350 00:13:44.649 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and I don’t know, a lot of my social battery goes to this, but…

134 00:13:44.650 00:13:50.529 Hannah Wang: Oh, do yeah. No battery for other stuff outside.

135 00:13:50.530 00:13:53.689 Uttam Kumaran: But I feel like you’re a pretty, like…

136 00:13:53.970 00:14:02.390 Uttam Kumaran: I think… I feel like you’re… at least when I was visiting, you guys were kind of out all the time, but I always pictured you as, like, a homebody type person. Like, my girlfriend is…

137 00:14:03.210 00:14:09.469 Uttam Kumaran: My girlfriend would be like, I don’t… we don’t need it, why do we need any more people? Like, me and you are friends, like, we’re good.

138 00:14:09.470 00:14:20.170 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I am quite introverted, but I think, like, trying to do my photo stuff, it’s a lot of work, like, I don’t know.

139 00:14:20.290 00:14:30.619 Hannah Wang: yeah, doing this, and then trying to do that on top of that, and that is a lot of, like, putting yourself out there, which I hate doing, I think drains me, so…

140 00:14:30.620 00:14:31.010 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm.

141 00:14:31.010 00:14:38.160 Hannah Wang: It’s been interesting, but it’s good. I talked to Drake about, like, content stuff, or, like, how it’s still his own…

142 00:14:38.480 00:14:45.450 Hannah Wang: company… or the… when he was doing the kitchen stuff, the… his cooking content. Sad to see him go, though.

143 00:14:45.450 00:14:46.629 Uttam Kumaran: I know, I know.

144 00:14:46.630 00:14:47.450 Hannah Wang: work with.

145 00:14:48.620 00:14:49.660 Uttam Kumaran: I agree.

146 00:14:52.870 00:14:53.660 Hannah Wang: I…

147 00:14:53.660 00:14:55.920 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna get coffee and see what’s next for him, so…

148 00:14:55.920 00:15:01.959 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah, yeah. I know, I feel… I… on my call with him, I know he was still trying to figure out…

149 00:15:02.460 00:15:04.009 Hannah Wang: Kind of what he’s doing.

150 00:15:04.710 00:15:06.960 Hannah Wang: So… We’ll see.

151 00:15:21.300 00:15:26.379 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah, so let me know, and I can do another pass at this.

152 00:15:26.560 00:15:30.120 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I’m just… Getting rid of, period.

153 00:15:30.120 00:15:30.740 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you.

154 00:15:30.740 00:15:33.709 Hannah Wang: At the end of bullets, and then…

155 00:15:43.480 00:15:44.599 Hannah Wang: Okay, yeah.

156 00:15:44.820 00:15:46.580 Hannah Wang: Run it, and then let me know.

157 00:15:49.330 00:15:50.520 Uttam Kumaran: Okay…

158 00:16:44.850 00:16:46.030 Uttam Kumaran: Okay…

159 00:16:59.310 00:17:01.900 Uttam Kumaran: I wonder if we shouldn’t do this in the red?

160 00:17:02.120 00:17:02.990 Uttam Kumaran: Kinda looks…

161 00:17:02.990 00:17:03.630 Hannah Wang: Hmm.

162 00:17:03.960 00:17:07.819 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe, like, a bad thing? Like, maybe we should do, like, a different grain?

163 00:17:10.130 00:17:11.029 Hannah Wang: Like that.

164 00:17:13.030 00:17:16.349 Uttam Kumaran: I’m always worried about, like, do you worry about colorblind people?

165 00:17:16.480 00:17:18.960 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, shit. What, like, what happens?

166 00:17:18.960 00:17:21.320 Hannah Wang: I did not think about that.

167 00:17:21.329 00:17:22.889 Uttam Kumaran: Because all of our shit is green.

168 00:17:22.890 00:17:24.569 Hannah Wang: Totally.

169 00:17:24.579 00:17:25.949 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, it’s whatever.

170 00:17:25.950 00:17:29.449 Hannah Wang: Well, it’s probably, like, a lighter gray is what they’ll see.

171 00:17:29.970 00:17:37.730 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah, as long as I see it, I don’t… I thought they, like, don’t… I don’t even know how it works. I thought they, like, don’t see anything.

172 00:17:37.730 00:17:38.970 Hannah Wang: That’s so sad.

173 00:17:39.230 00:17:41.149 Hannah Wang: I think they could still see.

174 00:17:41.470 00:17:51.490 Uttam Kumaran: No, like, green. Like, oh, but I guess you’re right, they just see it as a different… oh, then it doesn’t matter at all. Yeah, it’s like a light gray, probably. You’re right, you’re right, you’re right.

175 00:18:16.740 00:18:21.079 Uttam Kumaran: For deliverables, summary table, can we remove summary table?

176 00:18:23.700 00:18:25.280 Uttam Kumaran: Right here, yeah.

177 00:18:27.430 00:18:28.040 Hannah Wang: Yes.

178 00:18:29.860 00:18:36.200 Uttam Kumaran: And then, for, this… can we combine this one and this one?

179 00:18:36.990 00:18:41.780 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah. So we can probably put Brainforge Team, CTA Team, and then the model underneath.

180 00:18:41.900 00:18:49.330 Hannah Wang: Okay, let me share my screen again, and then… Okay.

181 00:18:50.080 00:18:55.939 Hannah Wang: So… Combine… like, do you want me to move…

182 00:18:56.200 00:18:59.590 Uttam Kumaran: This is, this is the final one. This one you can ditch.

183 00:18:59.880 00:19:02.960 Hannah Wang: Alright, I don’t think it’ll fit in one row, so let me…

184 00:19:02.960 00:19:06.189 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so basically you could put this above…

185 00:19:06.650 00:19:10.429 Uttam Kumaran: Right. With this first, then CTA, then the engagement model.

186 00:19:10.430 00:19:11.160 Hannah Wang: Okay.

187 00:19:32.050 00:19:36.409 Hannah Wang: What… what would be, like, the title for this one? This table?

188 00:19:37.330 00:19:39.589 Uttam Kumaran: It would be Engagement Model.

189 00:19:40.170 00:19:41.780 Hannah Wang: Oh, okay, yeah.

190 00:19:41.780 00:19:43.360 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.

191 00:19:44.350 00:19:44.860 Hannah Wang: Oops.

192 00:19:44.860 00:19:47.849 Uttam Kumaran: If you want to do that, then you could just leave this as model.

193 00:19:48.500 00:19:50.610 Uttam Kumaran: And then you can put a gauger model above it, yeah.

194 00:19:50.610 00:19:54.110 Hannah Wang: Okay, yeah. Hmm, let me do that.

195 00:19:58.430 00:19:59.030 Hannah Wang: Bye.

196 00:19:59.970 00:20:00.980 Uttam Kumaran: Mmm.

197 00:21:49.840 00:21:52.149 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I can check again.

198 00:21:52.350 00:21:53.090 Hannah Wang: Okay.

199 00:22:27.960 00:22:31.539 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s remove this part, which is what Brainforge will deliver next.

200 00:22:32.150 00:22:39.040 Uttam Kumaran: And then, what we need from CTA is… we can remove the second bullet.

201 00:22:40.900 00:22:49.569 Uttam Kumaran: and then what is… what… oh, next steps slash CTA? Let’s just do… next steps, yeah.

202 00:23:00.040 00:23:03.509 Uttam Kumaran: And then, can we add a couple things here? So…

203 00:23:04.190 00:23:11.570 Uttam Kumaran: First thing we can put is, daily stand-ups, weekly sprint review.

204 00:23:14.870 00:23:22.339 Uttam Kumaran: And we can put recurring… Grooming slash planning slash retros.

205 00:23:26.320 00:23:31.889 Uttam Kumaran: And we can… we can put another one, we can say monthly project reviews with…

206 00:23:34.570 00:23:37.720 Uttam Kumaran: CTA, team, and broader stakeholders.

207 00:23:40.030 00:23:43.070 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s remove the third,

208 00:23:44.920 00:23:47.409 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, let’s remove the third item.

209 00:23:56.740 00:24:01.430 Uttam Kumaran: And then… Instead of BUT engineers, you can put AND.

210 00:24:08.810 00:24:11.240 Uttam Kumaran: And you could say we typically budget

211 00:24:14.400 00:24:21.220 Uttam Kumaran: Daily stand-ups, weekly sprint review, recurring grooming planning retros, monthly project reviews at D&T, and broader stakeholders.

212 00:24:26.060 00:24:27.460 Uttam Kumaran: And then…

213 00:24:47.120 00:24:52.840 Uttam Kumaran: Oh shoot, sorry, what did I do? You can remove this in .25 increments.

214 00:24:59.140 00:25:01.759 Uttam Kumaran: And can you put Brain Forge Will Conduct?

215 00:25:27.420 00:25:29.799 Uttam Kumaran: And then let’s remove this EST.

216 00:25:32.460 00:25:35.520 Uttam Kumaran: And then this is…

217 00:25:46.650 00:25:51.609 Uttam Kumaran: Can we somehow put this in, like, green, and, like, just make it, like, a little sub thing?

218 00:25:52.540 00:25:54.140 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s not really…

219 00:25:55.000 00:25:55.990 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

220 00:25:59.540 00:26:02.839 Hannah Wang: But it goes under the second…

221 00:26:03.360 00:26:04.570 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s fine.

222 00:26:21.030 00:26:22.420 Hannah Wang: Can I do that?

223 00:26:24.620 00:26:30.670 Hannah Wang: Or you want me to do it, like… I… it would be great if you could put it at the bottom. Bottom.

224 00:26:30.820 00:26:33.650 Hannah Wang: Okay.

225 00:28:58.050 00:28:58.950 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

226 00:29:01.130 00:29:02.069 Hannah Wang: Looks good.

227 00:29:02.590 00:29:03.450 Uttam Kumaran: Looks good.

228 00:29:03.940 00:29:09.629 Hannah Wang: Cool. I can, export it to PDF, and then I can send it to you.

229 00:29:09.630 00:29:10.590 Uttam Kumaran: Perfect. Okay.

230 00:29:10.590 00:29:15.289 Hannah Wang: Okay, cool. Do you need help with, like, a follow-up email or anything?

231 00:29:15.290 00:29:19.490 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, I’m on a thread with her, so I can just share that.

232 00:29:19.490 00:29:20.000 Hannah Wang: Nice.

233 00:29:21.670 00:29:26.710 Uttam Kumaran: I’m trying to think… oh, oh, I was gonna just call you to say hi, but I could call you later today.

234 00:29:30.260 00:29:32.499 Hannah Wang: Okay, let me know if you need any more help.

235 00:29:32.700 00:29:33.860 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, thank you.

236 00:29:33.860 00:29:34.810 Hannah Wang: Great, bye.

237 00:29:34.810 00:29:35.450 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, bye.