Meeting Title: Brainforge x WBB Career Discussion Date: 2026-03-04 Meeting participants: Amina Shafeek-Horton, Kaela Gallagher
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1 00:00:26.400 ⇒ 00:00:28.089 Kaela Gallagher: How’s it going?
2 00:00:28.090 ⇒ 00:00:28.930 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Pew.
3 00:00:29.380 ⇒ 00:00:31.270 Kaela Gallagher: Doing well, how are you?
4 00:00:31.270 ⇒ 00:00:32.900 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Good, good.
5 00:00:33.220 ⇒ 00:00:36.269 Kaela Gallagher: Thanks for, reaching out, appreciate it.
6 00:00:36.270 ⇒ 00:00:36.840 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Yeah.
7 00:00:36.840 ⇒ 00:00:40.139 Kaela Gallagher: to talk to another WBB student.
8 00:00:40.140 ⇒ 00:00:41.420 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Yeah, same.
9 00:00:41.420 ⇒ 00:00:46.290 Kaela Gallagher: Are you… are you still in WBB, or did you recently graduate?
10 00:00:46.290 ⇒ 00:00:52.669 Amina Shafeek-Horton: I graduated. I just finished my master’s degree, I was in Beijing, last year.
11 00:00:53.040 ⇒ 00:00:53.700 Kaela Gallagher: Okay.
12 00:00:53.700 ⇒ 00:00:54.350 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Yeah.
13 00:00:54.680 ⇒ 00:00:58.739 Kaela Gallagher: Okay, exciting, cool. So what cohort were you a part of then?
14 00:00:58.740 ⇒ 00:01:04.440 Amina Shafeek-Horton: 2024, I graduated. Okay. Yeah, so, Amber, I’m in Amber’s cohort.
15 00:01:04.910 ⇒ 00:01:05.690 Kaela Gallagher: Oh, got it!
16 00:01:05.690 ⇒ 00:01:06.560 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Yes, okay, cool.
17 00:01:06.560 ⇒ 00:01:11.900 Kaela Gallagher: Oh, I’m, 2022, so a couple years ahead… Where?
18 00:01:12.260 ⇒ 00:01:23.529 Amina Shafeek-Horton: what city were you in, then? Because we… the 2022 people were in Hong Kong for us, right, I think? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I stayed in Milan for my…
19 00:01:23.530 ⇒ 00:01:34.109 Kaela Gallagher: last year. My cohort had a series of, like, unfortunate events where we had to evacuate Hong Kong during the protests, and then
20 00:01:34.110 ⇒ 00:01:50.089 Kaela Gallagher: Like, never went back because of COVID, and then our first year in Milan was just entirely in lockdown, so a lot of us ended up staying there for fourth year, so that we could actually, like, experience Milan a little bit more.
21 00:01:50.090 ⇒ 00:01:51.359 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Yes, that makes sense.
22 00:01:51.360 ⇒ 00:01:54.639 Kaela Gallagher: So, so yeah, ended up staying there.
23 00:01:54.850 ⇒ 00:01:56.200 Kaela Gallagher: What about you?
24 00:01:56.220 ⇒ 00:02:08.780 Amina Shafeek-Horton: I… similar logic for us for… I went to USC my fourth year, because our first year was COVID, and we had none of our… like, all of our classes were still online, and our first semester was at home.
25 00:02:08.780 ⇒ 00:02:20.389 Amina Shafeek-Horton: I think some… I went out my second semester to LA, the first year, but half my cohort didn’t, so most of us were like, oh, we did not get to go to a football game, so we…
26 00:02:20.390 ⇒ 00:02:20.990 Kaela Gallagher: I would not mind.
27 00:02:20.990 ⇒ 00:02:31.429 Amina Shafeek-Horton: senior year, and I had Hong Kong and Milan fairly normal. Milan, definitely normal. Hong Kong in, like, January, COVID hit.
28 00:02:31.580 ⇒ 00:02:36.069 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Again? Yes. Not again, but hit, I guess. That was when Block, like…
29 00:02:36.350 ⇒ 00:02:50.309 Amina Shafeek-Horton: yeah, that was when it hit. And so, our classes went online. I decided to stay. I was, like, I think, the second-to-last person in our cohort to leave. I did, like, an internship at the American Chamber of Commerce in Hong Kong, and then I left in April and did some, like.
30 00:02:50.310 ⇒ 00:02:56.549 Amina Shafeek-Horton: solo travel, that kind of thing. So, semi-normal experience in Hong Kong, so… Okay.
31 00:03:00.260 ⇒ 00:03:07.239 Kaela Gallagher: Well, yeah, excited to discuss, like, a little bit more about Brainforge. I just joined the team last week, and.
32 00:03:07.240 ⇒ 00:03:07.680 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Oh, wow.
33 00:03:07.680 ⇒ 00:03:25.439 Kaela Gallagher: I’ll be focused on everything, like, recruiting and people-related, so, yeah, excited. We have a few WB people at the organization already, and I guess just curious about, like, your career motivations in general. Like, what… what are you looking to do next?
34 00:03:25.740 ⇒ 00:03:28.649 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Yeah, definitely. So…
35 00:03:28.810 ⇒ 00:03:31.459 Kaela Gallagher: Right now, I am…
36 00:03:31.460 ⇒ 00:03:49.609 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Okay, so a lot of my background has been related to, like, both business and global affairs, so, like, I’ve done, like, an internship at Pfizer, I did, like, AmCham, so that was both business and global affairs. I most recently was at the United Nations Foundation, that started as an internship and then kind of converted to
37 00:03:49.610 ⇒ 00:03:52.930 Amina Shafeek-Horton: full-time, but I was still during my senior year at… in LA.
38 00:03:52.930 ⇒ 00:03:55.769 Amina Shafeek-Horton: And a lot of my work there was, like.
39 00:03:55.850 ⇒ 00:04:10.500 Amina Shafeek-Horton: stakeholder engagement. It was a membership organization, and so, and our members were current and former female presidents and, and prime ministers, and so our job was basically to help, kind of, elevate their platform, so for me, that meant
40 00:04:10.500 ⇒ 00:04:26.529 Amina Shafeek-Horton: doing outreach and finding, like, aligned opportunities for them, whether that be speaking engagements or kind of, like, nonprofits that they can support, that kind of thing. So just, I kind of manage lots of, also, requests from people reaching out to us who wanted to get in contact with these women for various,
41 00:04:26.530 ⇒ 00:04:26.990 Kaela Gallagher: reasons.
42 00:04:26.990 ⇒ 00:04:40.509 Amina Shafeek-Horton: I also did, kind of, the strategic communications, so, you know, managing the social media, newsletter, putting out, kind of, information about what are the council’s initiatives, how they were… how they were going.
43 00:04:40.510 ⇒ 00:04:49.279 Amina Shafeek-Horton: And, also kind of, like, some operations, logistics things, too. And so, I think right now, what I’m looking for is a role that
44 00:04:49.310 ⇒ 00:05:03.529 Amina Shafeek-Horton: I think I would like to do something that’s either related to operations or strategy. I’m really open to what kind of role that looks like. I… so I reached out to you, because I… one thing I’m looking for is working with people that…
45 00:05:03.650 ⇒ 00:05:22.109 Amina Shafeek-Horton: are smart, and that, like, I enjoy working with. I think that’s one of the continuities I’m looking for, and so seeing that they’re already WBB people, I was like, okay, I know at least… I have a glimpse of what the environment might be like, and so that was one of the things that I would say kind of attracted me to at least messaging you.
46 00:05:22.110 ⇒ 00:05:28.550 Amina Shafeek-Horton: And then, I would say, yeah, I think I’m just… I’m looking for a role where I’m going to be able to
47 00:05:29.460 ⇒ 00:05:40.480 Amina Shafeek-Horton: have some autonomy, and I know that also I’m still a young person, and so I also am looking for something where I’m not just going to be, like, doing…
48 00:05:40.620 ⇒ 00:05:43.830 Amina Shafeek-Horton: For lack of a better word, like, silly things throughout my.
49 00:05:43.830 ⇒ 00:05:44.240 Kaela Gallagher: day.
50 00:05:44.240 ⇒ 00:05:58.780 Amina Shafeek-Horton: where I will actually… whatever that looks like, but, like, this… I have, like, my work stream, and I’m working with people, but I can actually, like, point to things and say, like, oh, I did that, I contributed to that. And so, that’s why also I thought maybe I’ve been looking at startup environments, but I’ve also been looking at, kind of.
51 00:05:58.910 ⇒ 00:06:12.719 Amina Shafeek-Horton: everything, I would say, but, that’s a bit of what I’m looking for, and just, I wanted to reach out to see if there might be any roles that might be aligned. I saw what you guys are currently recruiting for, and I’m not an engineer.
52 00:06:12.720 ⇒ 00:06:13.159 Kaela Gallagher: Oh my god.
53 00:06:13.160 ⇒ 00:06:23.240 Amina Shafeek-Horton: that my background is probably a bit more generalist, and so just wanted to see if there might be a fit in any way, but also always excited to talk to another WB student, so…
54 00:06:23.240 ⇒ 00:06:29.580 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In terms of our landscape right now, and what we’re hiring, and this is…
55 00:06:29.580 ⇒ 00:06:46.649 Kaela Gallagher: always changing, because we are consulting, and so as we, you know, potentially sign, like, larger clients, you know, this could always change, but, right now, definitely, like, our engineering team is our biggest need, like, AI and data engineering roles.
56 00:06:46.650 ⇒ 00:06:50.579 Kaela Gallagher: We’re also looking for, like, a senior
57 00:06:50.670 ⇒ 00:07:05.000 Kaela Gallagher: analyst, slash, like, associate, like, somebody that can be very senior, on the client side of things. It’s kind of interesting how we’re structuring our projects. We don’t have, like, traditional.
58 00:07:05.000 ⇒ 00:07:15.609 Kaela Gallagher: you know, like, project managers. We’re really trying to empower, like, our engineers to be able to fill some of the client-facing roles as well.
59 00:07:15.630 ⇒ 00:07:26.029 Kaela Gallagher: just because we’re… we’re learning, and I’m sure you’ve probably seen too, like, a lot of what used to be project management, even a few years ago, can be automated now. Right.
60 00:07:26.290 ⇒ 00:07:35.339 Kaela Gallagher: So, yeah, it’s really kind of cool what we’re doing, and the kinds of things that we’re building, even internally.
61 00:07:35.340 ⇒ 00:08:00.129 Kaela Gallagher: But yeah, even our, like, senior analysts typically have some sort of, like, technical skills in data modeling, or product analytics, or something like that. So, that’s kind of our current landscape. One of our CEOs is WBB, so I’m… Yeah, Robert, you might know. So, I’m always, like, chatting with him about
62 00:08:00.660 ⇒ 00:08:17.019 Kaela Gallagher: WBB people and where we can slot you in. I don’t know that, like, any of our hot openings right now are the greatest fit, but regardless, like, would still love to kind of learn more about what you’re looking for and, you know, stay in touch and…
63 00:08:17.020 ⇒ 00:08:20.819 Kaela Gallagher: see what we could find for you. So…
64 00:08:20.820 ⇒ 00:08:21.660 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Like, yeah.
65 00:08:21.660 ⇒ 00:08:29.899 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah, curious, like, what brought you, or what made you interested in Brainforge outside of, like, the WBB connection?
66 00:08:29.940 ⇒ 00:08:46.159 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Yeah, no, so I was also hoping to be able to learn a little bit more. I did… I looked on the website, and I saw… I watched the video talking about, like, what they’re… what you guys are offering, and so I… to be honest, I don’t know
67 00:08:46.260 ⇒ 00:09:11.099 Amina Shafeek-Horton: the full landscape of what projects and kinds of things you guys are working on. I saw that you guys are… it looks like you’re helping clients figure out how to leverage their data and AI, where, like, rather than them just being buzzwords, but being like, okay, how can we actually use this to turn over actual, like, ROI? It seemed to be what it is like. Yes. And so, I was curious to learn more on, like, what that looks like in practice, and I think it makes sense for you guys to be looking for
68 00:09:11.160 ⇒ 00:09:21.660 Amina Shafeek-Horton: engineers who can also do the product management component, because that will also… if people transition out, I… my mother works at an energy utilities company, and…
69 00:09:22.420 ⇒ 00:09:25.699 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Sometimes these are skills that engineers might be lacking, so it’s great that people are.
70 00:09:25.700 ⇒ 00:09:26.339 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah, yeah.
71 00:09:26.340 ⇒ 00:09:44.299 Amina Shafeek-Horton: looking to build that into it. But yeah, that’s… I… so I was mostly, like I said, I… transparency, interested because I saw WBB, I saw, like, I’m interested in a startup environment and wanted to see if there might be a fit, but I’m curious to learn at least more about what it looks like in practice and how you guys help your clients.
72 00:09:44.490 ⇒ 00:09:53.680 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, the engineering, roles that we’re hiring for, we get to hire for, like, unicorns every time, basically. It’s fun.
73 00:09:54.610 ⇒ 00:10:02.489 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah, in terms of, like, what makes Brainforge, different than other, like, consulting companies, to me, it’s really about, like.
74 00:10:02.750 ⇒ 00:10:17.329 Kaela Gallagher: how we are able to actually do implementations. So, for some of our clients, we’re actually, like, functioning as their data team. So where a lot of consultancies will just, like, come in, give you a deck with recommendations at the end, like.
75 00:10:17.420 ⇒ 00:10:31.029 Kaela Gallagher: Brainforge is actually, like, integrated into these clients and, actually, like, building out data warehouses and dashboarding and, like, BI tools and all that kind of stuff, so…
76 00:10:31.160 ⇒ 00:10:37.309 Kaela Gallagher: Really focused on, like, Having good data structure and cleaning up data before
77 00:10:37.460 ⇒ 00:10:41.670 Kaela Gallagher: throwing any AI on top of it, so that the AI is actually, like, effective.
78 00:10:41.670 ⇒ 00:10:45.169 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Right. Yeah. That makes sense. What does it look like? Oh, sorry.
79 00:10:45.170 ⇒ 00:10:55.480 Kaela Gallagher: And then, I was gonna say, just in terms of, like, the kinds of clients that we serve, a lot of our clients are, like, CPG brands, like Ecom.
80 00:10:55.480 ⇒ 00:11:11.830 Kaela Gallagher: And then we have… I want to say, like, one financial client, we have a couple healthcare clients, so those are kind of the industries that we serve. Some are kind of at the enterprise level, but a lot of these are, like, small and mid-sized organizations.
81 00:11:11.830 ⇒ 00:11:13.149 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Okay, that makes sense.
82 00:11:13.180 ⇒ 00:11:23.660 Amina Shafeek-Horton: I was just gonna ask, it’s very interesting to hear that the native people and the engineers are, in some ways, serving as the teams for these, companies.
83 00:11:23.670 ⇒ 00:11:33.420 Amina Shafeek-Horton: how… how is that working? Are… are you finding that a lot of your clients are looking for that? For… and also, are you guys currently…
84 00:11:33.960 ⇒ 00:11:35.460 Amina Shafeek-Horton: supporting…
85 00:11:35.960 ⇒ 00:11:46.920 Amina Shafeek-Horton: in terms of implementation, teams that already have, like, established, kind of, data-oriented teams, and then you come in and collaborate with them. I’m just wondering about, like, that dynamic, because it seems… sounds very interesting.
86 00:11:47.200 ⇒ 00:12:02.329 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah, so some of these smaller organizations just don’t really have a data team at all, and we’re kind of the data team. Other times, like, larger organizations, it might be… be more of a partnership. And then what was your first question before that?
87 00:12:02.660 ⇒ 00:12:05.820 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Sorry.
88 00:12:06.120 ⇒ 00:12:08.529 Kaela Gallagher: Oh, how it’s going with the engineers…
89 00:12:08.860 ⇒ 00:12:22.190 Kaela Gallagher: kind of going on the functional side. Yeah. So far, like, this is a more recent change, but so far, there’s been a lot of success. We actually have, like, engineers going on some of our, like.
90 00:12:22.370 ⇒ 00:12:34.730 Kaela Gallagher: sales calls. Oh, okay. So, like, when we’re finalizing, like, a deal, or really, like, talking about what we can do for a client, we’ll have an engineer, one of our, like.
91 00:12:34.870 ⇒ 00:12:48.189 Kaela Gallagher: we call them, like, CSOs, client service, representatives, like, go on the call as well, and these people that are, like, looking into our services are so excited to…
92 00:12:48.590 ⇒ 00:13:00.000 Kaela Gallagher: speak a technical language, like, on a sales call, and, like, really dive in deeper into what we can actually perform. So, there’s been a lot of, like, success there so far, too.
93 00:13:00.340 ⇒ 00:13:05.520 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Very good. That makes a lot of sense. I can see how this is going to be, like, a strong model, so…
94 00:13:05.520 ⇒ 00:13:09.829 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah, I’m excited! I mean, it’s literally day 8 for me at the.
95 00:13:09.830 ⇒ 00:13:14.579 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Okay, but congratulations, like, this is very exciting, you’re in the thick of it.
96 00:13:14.600 ⇒ 00:13:23.259 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah, yeah, I’m, like, really enjoying it so far. We’re also fully remote, too, which is… That’s very nice. …just a ton of flexibility, all of us WBBers left to try.
97 00:13:23.300 ⇒ 00:13:24.810 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Yeah, exactly.
98 00:13:24.810 ⇒ 00:13:27.190 Kaela Gallagher: Be in one place, so it works out well.
99 00:13:27.190 ⇒ 00:13:40.889 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Yeah. I guess just, like, one last quick question. It’s very simple. I was wondering how you found out about Brainforge in the beginning, and then also what made you decide to transition from maybe, like, a more corporate, stable role into this?
100 00:13:41.270 ⇒ 00:13:45.710 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah, I had been in touch with Robert
101 00:13:45.870 ⇒ 00:13:50.499 Kaela Gallagher: Probably, like, 6 years ago.
102 00:13:50.550 ⇒ 00:13:56.010 Kaela Gallagher: when I was, like, a student in Hong Kong, I was taking the supply chain classes, and I was super interested, and
103 00:13:56.010 ⇒ 00:14:15.460 Kaela Gallagher: reached out to a bunch of, like, older WBB people just to ask their experiences, like, people that were already in the workforce. So, Robert and I had connected back then, and then he reached out more recently about something just, like, totally unrelated, and then he’s like, what’s the latest? And I was like, actually, I’m gonna start looking for a new role, and he was like.
104 00:14:15.880 ⇒ 00:14:29.580 Kaela Gallagher: how about Brainforge? Yeah. And so, probably easiest recruiting process of my life, honestly. And yeah, I guess going from, like, more of a corporate environment to Brainforge, like.
105 00:14:30.050 ⇒ 00:14:34.080 Kaela Gallagher: the autonomy that I have here, and the ability to, like, really own something, and…
106 00:14:34.080 ⇒ 00:14:34.540 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Damn.
107 00:14:34.540 ⇒ 00:14:42.600 Kaela Gallagher: like, be this early in my career and be head of people in recruiting is insane, so it’s just really exciting. Yeah.
108 00:14:42.780 ⇒ 00:14:50.379 Amina Shafeek-Horton: That’s awesome, and sounds like, I mean, that’s the way you want to be recruiting anyways. I feel like it’s cool. Everything you’re doing right now is…
109 00:14:50.550 ⇒ 00:15:00.910 Amina Shafeek-Horton: like, you’ve chunked out what usually happens, right, in the last 20 years, and put it kind of front-end in the front end, so that’s very cool, and I love to see WB connections working.
110 00:15:00.910 ⇒ 00:15:17.520 Kaela Gallagher: Gotta appreciate the network, you know? Yes, definitely. That’s part of why we did the program, so… That’s true. Yeah, would love to stay in touch moving forward. Like, I can definitely keep you posted if we have anything a little bit more junior, anything on strategy and ops.
111 00:15:17.520 ⇒ 00:15:22.319 Kaela Gallagher: open up, and I’ll just loop Robert in that we had this conversation, too, so he’s…
112 00:15:22.330 ⇒ 00:15:30.075 Kaela Gallagher: his radar’s out there for roles. What does your, like, interview…
113 00:15:30.570 ⇒ 00:15:35.820 Kaela Gallagher: scope, like, scope look like right now? Like, what do you have on your plate in terms of other interviews?
114 00:15:35.820 ⇒ 00:15:51.169 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Yeah, I’m… I wanna, like, one of my priorities, just in terms of, like, location, I really want to be based in New York, so I’ve been looking… recruiting for, like, remote or New York-based, so currently, like, I…
115 00:15:51.170 ⇒ 00:16:00.720 Amina Shafeek-Horton: had, like, a final round interview with a kind of public service-oriented, place in New York, kind of waiting to hear back on that. I’ve had some, like.
116 00:16:00.720 ⇒ 00:16:04.860 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Recent intro calls with people over the last week.
117 00:16:04.880 ⇒ 00:16:05.760 Amina Shafeek-Horton: So…
118 00:16:05.760 ⇒ 00:16:06.290 Kaela Gallagher: Okay.
119 00:16:06.290 ⇒ 00:16:11.269 Amina Shafeek-Horton: that’s… that’s kind of where I am, but because I’m mostly recruiting
120 00:16:11.480 ⇒ 00:16:23.389 Amina Shafeek-Horton: New York and remote are two very, like, hot topic, areas, and so we’ll kind of see. But that’s, I guess, in terms of my pipeline, where I’m at, and…
121 00:16:23.390 ⇒ 00:16:24.020 Kaela Gallagher: Program.
122 00:16:24.020 ⇒ 00:16:24.470 Amina Shafeek-Horton: So…
123 00:16:24.470 ⇒ 00:16:27.929 Kaela Gallagher: Okay. Yeah. What, you’re based in New York right now?
124 00:16:27.980 ⇒ 00:16:30.819 Amina Shafeek-Horton: I’m currently in Charlotte, I’ve been kind of just, like.
125 00:16:30.820 ⇒ 00:16:31.870 Kaela Gallagher: Okay.
126 00:16:31.870 ⇒ 00:16:48.729 Amina Shafeek-Horton: popping around and seeing, like, family, friends. I was in China last week for a couple weeks, traveling and, like, helping out with, like, a Model UN conference, basically. I was, like, helping organize that and chair that, so that was fun. So, I’m kind of… Charlotte’s my home base, that’s where my family is, but.
127 00:16:48.730 ⇒ 00:16:49.250 Kaela Gallagher: Okay.
128 00:16:49.250 ⇒ 00:17:01.570 Amina Shafeek-Horton: this time to apply and still enjoy life, but I’ve been… I graduated, what, in June? So, now I’m kind of at the point where I’m like, okay, I’m ready to, like, settle down and start, kind of.
129 00:17:01.690 ⇒ 00:17:03.930 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Finding a role working, so… yeah.
130 00:17:03.930 ⇒ 00:17:04.450 Kaela Gallagher: Okay.
131 00:17:04.450 ⇒ 00:17:04.900 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Yeah.
132 00:17:04.900 ⇒ 00:17:12.070 Kaela Gallagher: Okay, cool. Robert’s based in… in New York, too. It’s kind of all… all over, but… Yeah.
133 00:17:12.180 ⇒ 00:17:19.650 Kaela Gallagher: Okay, awesome. Well, I will definitely, like, stay in touch with you, and feel free to, like, keep me in the loop on how your process is going as well, and…
134 00:17:19.650 ⇒ 00:17:20.200 Amina Shafeek-Horton: I will.
135 00:17:20.200 ⇒ 00:17:22.769 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah, thanks for taking the time today.
136 00:17:22.770 ⇒ 00:17:25.109 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Yes, thank you too, and it was very nice to meet you.
137 00:17:25.119 ⇒ 00:17:26.009 Kaela Gallagher: Nice to meet you.
138 00:17:26.010 ⇒ 00:17:26.359 Amina Shafeek-Horton: Okay.
139 00:17:26.369 ⇒ 00:17:28.189 Kaela Gallagher: Talk to you later. Bye. Bye.