Meeting Title: Magic Spoon — Brainforge sync Date: 2026-02-27 Meeting participants: Demilade Agboola, Justin Tabarini, Mary Burke, Michael Thorson
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1 00:00:17.380 ⇒ 00:00:18.240 Justin Tabarini: Hey.
2 00:00:22.080 ⇒ 00:00:23.080 Demilade Agboola: Hi, Justin.
3 00:00:24.490 ⇒ 00:00:26.699 Justin Tabarini: Hello, hello, nice to see you.
4 00:00:26.700 ⇒ 00:00:27.899 Demilade Agboola: Nice to see you too.
5 00:00:28.110 ⇒ 00:00:28.790 Mary Burke: Hey guys!
6 00:00:47.570 ⇒ 00:00:49.120 Michael Thorson: Your haircut. No?
7 00:00:50.350 ⇒ 00:00:53.610 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, actually, I had… I actually caught it, like…
8 00:00:54.040 ⇒ 00:01:00.219 Demilade Agboola: last week, Monday? So, I had this haircut last week, but I think I had my hoodie up or something, so…
9 00:01:00.290 ⇒ 00:01:01.659 Michael Thorson: Nice. It’s fresh.
10 00:01:02.870 ⇒ 00:01:04.110 Demilade Agboola: Yeah,
11 00:01:04.340 ⇒ 00:01:11.349 Demilade Agboola: First time I’m having, like, a low haircut in almost 6 years, so it’s a new feeling, it’s a new feeling.
12 00:01:11.710 ⇒ 00:01:12.699 Michael Thorson: Feel the breeze.
13 00:01:13.950 ⇒ 00:01:21.550 Demilade Agboola: Honestly, when I stepped out the barbershop, that was literally the first thing I It was so different.
14 00:01:21.850 ⇒ 00:01:24.460 Demilade Agboola: Cuz…
15 00:01:24.730 ⇒ 00:01:33.159 Demilade Agboola: Like, Malta is a very windy… it’s an island, it’s a very small island, so it’s quite windy, like, where I live is literally, like, a 3-minute stroll from the ocean, like.
16 00:01:33.860 ⇒ 00:01:44.530 Demilade Agboola: there’s just a lot of wind everywhere. So I stepped out the barbershop, and I’m just like, whoa, I’ve not felt this much breath in so long, but yeah.
17 00:01:46.200 ⇒ 00:01:51.350 Demilade Agboola: Okay, I think… I think we can start this week’s,
18 00:01:53.190 ⇒ 00:02:01.869 Demilade Agboola: I know Utam’s not joining, I’m not sure about Sweeney, so… Okay, so, same old…
19 00:02:02.080 ⇒ 00:02:06.120 Demilade Agboola: North Stars, at this point, I think we’re very familiar with that.
20 00:02:06.230 ⇒ 00:02:12.600 Demilade Agboola: So the agenda today is just to talk about the Spins API update, the transition, and just kind of, like…
21 00:02:12.930 ⇒ 00:02:15.150 Demilade Agboola: the SOW, because I know
22 00:02:15.370 ⇒ 00:02:20.669 Demilade Agboola: I sent that over, Mary had some questions, we’ll talk about that, and then just next steps and blockers, basically.
23 00:02:22.490 ⇒ 00:02:30.189 Demilade Agboola: So, report reaching me, like, recently is that the spins extracts for the 4, 12, 24, and 52 weeks…
24 00:02:30.790 ⇒ 00:02:32.670 Demilade Agboola: Data has been done.
25 00:02:34.790 ⇒ 00:02:41.029 Demilade Agboola: And now we just need to make it into the production pipeline, so that that is… that runs by itself, and it keeps loading.
26 00:02:41.610 ⇒ 00:02:44.930 Demilade Agboola: So that is…
27 00:02:45.100 ⇒ 00:02:50.869 Demilade Agboola: done in that regard, and I think that the next step will just be to make it, consistently…
28 00:02:51.210 ⇒ 00:02:53.450 Demilade Agboola: Loading into the warehouse.
29 00:02:54.110 ⇒ 00:02:55.820 Demilade Agboola: Do we have any questions on that?
30 00:02:57.290 ⇒ 00:03:14.359 Mary Burke: I guess this would just be a question for, Ashwini, because I know he’s been working on it, but there’s no, ambiguity on what’s left to do. I think Michael sent over everything this week that should hopefully answer, any outstanding questions he had, but just confirming that he knows what the next steps are, and we’re in a good spot there.
31 00:03:16.610 ⇒ 00:03:22.909 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I know he’s been working with Michael, and I know, like, he let Michael know. Michael had some questions about…
32 00:03:23.360 ⇒ 00:03:27.870 Demilade Agboola: the extraction sizes, I think he should be able to respond to that.
33 00:03:28.000 ⇒ 00:03:33.750 Demilade Agboola: But I think in terms of the actual data in there, I think we do have it done.
34 00:03:34.410 ⇒ 00:03:49.559 Demilade Agboola: And so, the idea, once we have, like, once that’s there, or not once it’s there, it’s there already, so we’re just gonna have to just build out some of the base models that I know Michael wanted done off of that, and we can start to have that, into our, like, dbt, and have that…
35 00:03:49.710 ⇒ 00:03:54.019 Demilade Agboola: Available for Omni to be used. Yeah.
36 00:03:55.530 ⇒ 00:04:03.670 Michael Thorson: Cool. Yeah. Did you… did you hear of any, like, issues with data continuity, or, like, I know we switched to, like, the S3,
37 00:04:04.090 ⇒ 00:04:10.069 Michael Thorson: methodology to, like, extract the data from Spins, but, like, did you hear of any issues with
38 00:04:10.400 ⇒ 00:04:19.059 Michael Thorson: the size of those data pools. I just flagged to Sweeney to ask about continuity, but I would just love to know if there’s any, like, early warnings if something went wrong.
39 00:04:19.649 ⇒ 00:04:38.429 Demilade Agboola: Actually, I don’t think we had any issues with that, but Ashwini will be the one to confirm that, because I know he, like, he just generally updated us on the process, and where… so, like, on certain days, he’ll be like, I’m working on this, or I’m stopping work now, I will start this tomorrow morning when I, when I come back on.
40 00:04:38.519 ⇒ 00:04:47.489 Demilade Agboola: And throughout that process, I don’t… he never mentioned any, like, oh, it’s because previously he did mention when pipelines were breaking, and it was, he would…
41 00:04:48.129 ⇒ 00:04:58.749 Demilade Agboola: delayed the timeline of delivery, that didn’t come up in this process, so I… I’m assuming, and I’ll just… I’ll ask him to confirm, but I’m assuming that there weren’t any of those issues this time.
42 00:05:01.360 ⇒ 00:05:02.000 Michael Thorson: Cool.
43 00:05:02.110 ⇒ 00:05:09.099 Michael Thorson: Okay, yeah, like, I’m excited to take a look. I honestly, like, full disclosure, haven’t taken a look at Magic Spoon data for…
44 00:05:09.390 ⇒ 00:05:12.250 Michael Thorson: these higher timeframes, so I don’t have any inputs here.
45 00:05:12.920 ⇒ 00:05:14.319 Demilade Agboola: Okay, sounds good.
46 00:05:18.410 ⇒ 00:05:27.519 Demilade Agboola: Okay, in terms of vendor transition and takeover, I think the status is just from next week. We’re just basically going to be responsible for the pipelines.
47 00:05:29.270 ⇒ 00:05:44.569 Demilade Agboola: And we will be just ensuring everything’s running, ensuring that there are no issues, and once there are any issues, we will communicate what those issues are with the Magic Spoon team, so that you can be ahead and abreast of any issues that are coming up within the pipeline.
48 00:05:44.890 ⇒ 00:05:47.069 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I think.
49 00:05:47.070 ⇒ 00:05:57.709 Mary Burke: Yeah, Demi, I know you said that, you guys did not have admin access, but I think Michael just made sure that you have access to everything you need. Can you just make sure to go log in and confirm that
50 00:05:57.810 ⇒ 00:06:00.150 Mary Burke: You… your team’s able to access everything?
51 00:06:00.350 ⇒ 00:06:12.250 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so we have been able to log into, the different platforms, but I will send a comprehensive, like, checklist of everything, and just say, hey, this check, this check, this check, so, like, we’ll be on the same page, and we’ll have…
52 00:06:12.530 ⇒ 00:06:14.160 Demilade Agboola: For visibility.
53 00:06:16.950 ⇒ 00:06:17.820 Mary Burke: Okay, great.
54 00:06:18.090 ⇒ 00:06:19.449 Demilade Agboola: Alright, sounds good.
55 00:06:19.790 ⇒ 00:06:23.880 Demilade Agboola: Okay, so yes, for the…
56 00:06:24.920 ⇒ 00:06:30.359 Demilade Agboola: SOW and next engagement, so basically, the scope has been defined, this has been sent over.
57 00:06:30.700 ⇒ 00:06:37.960 Demilade Agboola: And the contract to the effect, I know I talked to Utam earlier today, he said he’s working on the contract to the effect of the SW.
58 00:06:38.560 ⇒ 00:06:40.710 Demilade Agboola: Not over, so…
59 00:06:40.810 ⇒ 00:06:47.169 Demilade Agboola: I think all’s good in that ballpark, and I know Mary had some questions about this. Do you want to talk about that now, or…
60 00:06:47.350 ⇒ 00:06:48.630 Demilade Agboola: After the call.
61 00:06:48.790 ⇒ 00:07:08.340 Mary Burke: Yeah, no, now works. There were just a little, like, a few minor things that were just, a little… just why I want to make sure that everything that’s in the SOW will, match our expectations, because I know Udam said we should not be expecting to meet weekly, but that is in the scope of work. So just, I think if we are not going to be meeting weekly in lieu of that, if we could do… I know I mentioned it.
62 00:07:08.340 ⇒ 00:07:11.149 Mary Burke: when we chatted on Wednesday, but the,
63 00:07:11.170 ⇒ 00:07:30.480 Mary Burke: kind of transparent hours tracking, whether it’s in linear or just in the Slack on Monday, Wednesday, Friday of priorities, projects in the queue, kind of where our balance of hours are being spent. If we want to do that, async, instead of those meetings, just making sure that we’re aligned to what that, what that looks like.
64 00:07:31.000 ⇒ 00:07:44.879 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, sure, I mean, I could definitely take that out, the SOW. Full disclosure, obviously, like, that meeting will come towards hours, so if you feel like, hey, I could potentially also save those hours, because, you know, if we’re capping at 15,
65 00:07:45.160 ⇒ 00:07:49.740 Demilade Agboola: preparation for the meeting. The meeting itself will come towards this hour, so…
66 00:07:49.880 ⇒ 00:07:56.840 Demilade Agboola: Like, if Ashwini and I attend the meeting, that’s 30 minutes between us, that’s an hour, so if we can save that, definitely.
67 00:07:56.980 ⇒ 00:07:58.049 Demilade Agboola: That’s.
68 00:07:58.050 ⇒ 00:08:04.590 Mary Burke: Yeah, I think that makes sense to then do it bi-weekly, but just, yeah, track those… those hours in the Slack channel.
69 00:08:04.590 ⇒ 00:08:06.310 Demilade Agboola: Alright, sounds good, Ben. We’ll try and,
70 00:08:06.470 ⇒ 00:08:11.550 Demilade Agboola: Build out the visibility so that you can see what the hours for the week look like.
71 00:08:11.770 ⇒ 00:08:19.349 Demilade Agboola: And where they will be going to, and, like, midweek update on how much time has gone towards certain things, and if you’d like to reprioritize.
72 00:08:21.690 ⇒ 00:08:34.769 Mary Burke: Yeah, sounds good. And then my other question, too, is just, it’s a little bit, just speaking for Michael on his behalf, if we can get, Michael into some shadow sessions when, Demi, you’re going through and doing,
73 00:08:34.780 ⇒ 00:08:47.579 Mary Burke: some of those, like, safeguard buildings alertings in dbt, just, doing those kind of as co-dev, co-build sessions, so you can get a little bit of insight there on the, on the engineering side would be, would be great.
74 00:08:47.860 ⇒ 00:08:53.129 Demilade Agboola: Okay, sounds good, I mean, it’s not the highest priority now, because of the spin stuff.
75 00:08:53.130 ⇒ 00:08:53.560 Mary Burke: Yeah.
76 00:08:53.560 ⇒ 00:08:57.799 Demilade Agboola: Like, by week 3, week 4, we should be able to start getting into that, and we can do that together.
77 00:08:58.560 ⇒ 00:09:07.289 Mary Burke: Yeah, I think that, the… from, Michael, Ashwini, and Udam, we think that the spin stuff would be able to be completed by the end of next week, so…
78 00:09:07.290 ⇒ 00:09:07.840 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
79 00:09:07.840 ⇒ 00:09:09.469 Mary Burke: Hopefully a little bit sooner.
80 00:09:09.660 ⇒ 00:09:26.320 Demilade Agboola: Okay, yeah, sounds good. I just generally like to ensure that we don’t have… it’s better to have more realistic, if offered expectations, versus, like, oh, let’s start, like, next week, and maybe we don’t necessarily have that. But yeah, hopefully we can start out, like, in two weeks’ time on…
81 00:09:26.520 ⇒ 00:09:28.939 Demilade Agboola: Tops 3 weeks’ time, so we can go through it.
82 00:09:29.100 ⇒ 00:09:34.470 Demilade Agboola: Think about observability and how we want to set up the test and ensure that
83 00:09:34.590 ⇒ 00:09:41.830 Demilade Agboola: The alerting is done in such a way that we can always be able to access it and know what’s going on, within our data.
84 00:09:42.780 ⇒ 00:09:52.160 Mary Burke: Okay, great. Yeah, and I think just, on the spin side, if that piece is going to be delayed another week, just, letting us know as soon as possible, so we can alert our,
85 00:09:52.170 ⇒ 00:10:05.560 Mary Burke: the downstream partners that are relying on this data, because I think we were… we… The end of next week would be our must-have buy date, so, you know, we were hoping for at the end of January, so just making sure that we are… we get in front of that if it’s going to be any later.
86 00:10:05.740 ⇒ 00:10:15.410 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I think we’re, like, the data is there. I think the only questions and what we’ve still been waiting for are things around the ACV and TDP.
87 00:10:15.620 ⇒ 00:10:25.790 Demilade Agboola: But beyond that, the data is available, and we will be able to use that in the different models for the different metrics that we care about as well.
88 00:10:27.680 ⇒ 00:10:41.800 Mary Burke: Okay, awesome. Yeah, I think those were my only two points, just figuring out what that communication and, like, meeting cadence looks like, just making sure that that’s updating the scope of work, and then the hours tracking through Slack.
89 00:10:41.890 ⇒ 00:10:48.109 Mary Burke: And, getting Michael just, into some of those shadow sessions were my three comments.
90 00:10:48.730 ⇒ 00:10:49.960 Demilade Agboola: Okay, alright, sounds a good thing.
91 00:10:50.330 ⇒ 00:11:02.549 Michael Thorson: And in terms of those, like, sessions, I was just gonna say, like, I can provide some value in terms of, like, just, like, co-developing and just, like, identifying, like, what fields and, like, unique IDs are, like, critical to pay attention to, so…
92 00:11:02.570 ⇒ 00:11:13.269 Michael Thorson: We should be able to just refine the scope of work there, and kind of tag-team it, if you will. I would just, like, love to see kind of how you approach dbt tests, and…
93 00:11:13.270 ⇒ 00:11:24.400 Michael Thorson: like, based on what you’ve read through in our model, like, through the audit, kind of, like, what your, strategy is. Like, always looking to kind of, like, learn best practices, and I’m sure you’ve got, like, a great perspective here, so…
94 00:11:24.400 ⇒ 00:11:25.920 Michael Thorson: Thanks for letting me hop in.
95 00:11:26.060 ⇒ 00:11:29.679 Demilade Agboola: Okay, sounds good. I look forward to those sessions, and obviously, like.
96 00:11:30.010 ⇒ 00:11:39.839 Demilade Agboola: Technical knowledge and the business knowledge are always great to integrate when you’re trying to do these things, because that’s how you’ll be able to do the most effective things and the most productive things, too.
97 00:11:40.300 ⇒ 00:11:44.350 Michael Thorson: Yeah, I’ll be able to point you out at all the things that don’t matter to our business.
98 00:11:45.210 ⇒ 00:11:51.250 Michael Thorson: We run pretty nimble, so hopefully it’ll clean up the chunk of work for you as well.
99 00:11:51.530 ⇒ 00:11:53.669 Demilade Agboola: Okay, sounds good, look forward to that as well.
100 00:11:55.760 ⇒ 00:12:03.910 Mary Burke: Yeah, and then, Debbie, just on that, if those updates are made to the SOW, and then we get a contract to that effect, we’ll be ready to sign whenever it’s over.
101 00:12:04.130 ⇒ 00:12:05.369 Demilade Agboola: Alright, sounds good, Ben.
102 00:12:07.650 ⇒ 00:12:13.770 Demilade Agboola: Alright, so the next steps, I think, are… the…
103 00:12:14.210 ⇒ 00:12:18.100 Demilade Agboola: building out the production pipeline for Spin so that it’s automated.
104 00:12:18.360 ⇒ 00:12:25.009 Demilade Agboola: Basically, the pipeline for Magic Spoon will be monitored by Brainforge from next week as well.
105 00:12:25.260 ⇒ 00:12:25.920 Demilade Agboola: And…
106 00:12:26.460 ⇒ 00:12:34.059 Demilade Agboola: the contracts will be sent, the SOW and contracts should be sent, over, so I’ll follow up with time again later today.
107 00:12:34.060 ⇒ 00:12:36.730 Michael Thorson: Just to be sure that he’s on top of that, and…
108 00:12:36.730 ⇒ 00:12:38.120 Demilade Agboola: I think we’re good to go.
109 00:12:38.720 ⇒ 00:12:47.259 Mary Burke: Awesome. Yeah, and then just let us know that, that your team has access to all the accounts and platforms in, from an admin perspective.
110 00:12:47.540 ⇒ 00:12:52.480 Demilade Agboola: Okay, sounds good. I will ensure I do that before I log off today,
111 00:12:53.670 ⇒ 00:12:55.749 Demilade Agboola: And, yeah, I’ll definitely let you know.
112 00:12:57.810 ⇒ 00:13:02.989 Michael Thorson: Cool. Yeah, and Demi, let us know, because I think the
113 00:13:03.810 ⇒ 00:13:07.800 Michael Thorson: Data Mart kept failing because of the seeds we discussed, so…
114 00:13:08.180 ⇒ 00:13:13.480 Michael Thorson: think you should be able to, like, unblock to, like, clearing up that model build, right? Alright.
115 00:13:13.820 ⇒ 00:13:16.080 Demilade Agboola: Alright, well, we’ll look into that.
116 00:13:16.410 ⇒ 00:13:23.130 Michael Thorson: Yeah, I just saw the dbt logs were, like, failing just for those MMM models, which I think was a couple of those seeds, so…
117 00:13:23.130 ⇒ 00:13:23.760 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
118 00:13:23.760 ⇒ 00:13:26.030 Michael Thorson: Make sure we’re not losing track of that there.
119 00:13:26.780 ⇒ 00:13:27.999 Demilade Agboola: Okay, sounds good.
120 00:13:29.950 ⇒ 00:13:31.490 Demilade Agboola: We’ll do that and let you know.
121 00:13:34.050 ⇒ 00:13:41.730 Demilade Agboola: Okay, do we have any other questions, or things we would like to… go over.
122 00:13:42.350 ⇒ 00:13:43.590 Mary Burke: No, that’s it for me.
123 00:13:45.890 ⇒ 00:13:47.120 Demilade Agboola: Alright, then…
124 00:13:47.910 ⇒ 00:13:52.919 Demilade Agboola: Have a great weekend, everyone. See you next week, or maybe not see you next week, but we’ll talk next week.
125 00:13:52.920 ⇒ 00:13:55.069 Justin Tabarini: Sounds good, thank you so much. Cecia.
126 00:13:55.410 ⇒ 00:13:56.180 Mary Burke: Bye, guys.